The Jason Gregor Show - Mark Spector (Oct 9th)

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2:06Joining us especially a little bit of a different show today. But how are you? How is the weather in sunny California? That's great down here. Nice and warm. The order is playing a little bit of hockey. We'll practice time. Everything's good. My biggest issue is I wouldn't mind watching that old scheme. I can't get it on my computer down here. I was going to ask about that actually. I was going to ask if you had. I was going to ask about that actually. I was going to ask if you were going to have a chance to watch the game down this down there. Sneaky big one for the Elks. But I guess if you can't get it. Does anyone saw you, TSN you can't get it. If you go to their website, it can't show it down here in the States. And I've got, I've got old man regular cable on tell us. But I can't seem to figure out a way to get that to come onto my computer and watch the game. So I can't figure that out. And I don't think the CFL site shows the game's live or does it? No, they do not. So am I just like, I would have luck declin. Is that what you tell me? Well, we'll do our best to give you the play by play without getting copyrighted. But this might be a Twitter watch for you today. It might be a Twitter follow and stream in this show here for what you can get.

3:08Yeah. Well, sometimes there's just a price to pay isn't there? Yeah. I guess so. So Phillip Hollander, he's obviously drawn in. It looks like he's going to be on the second line with Jason Dickinson and Kasperic Captain. You got a chance to obviously see him skate today and talk to him. Just kind of, I guess, initial impressions on both on the skate today and then when he got a chance to talk to you guys. Well, I'm a little surprised he's jumping right in for one. But he is and that's good. I think it tells you if he looks like he's got a spot on that second line. Well, whatever we're talking about, Dickinson line left wing. I don't think he's going to play. So probably captain and sits on the other wing with Dickinson. You know what? It's like I don't know much about the guy. He's played. Hold on here. I'm about to look him up. He's played in his life 18 and H on games. So, you know, I'm not going to, I'm not going to be asked to hear and tell you I know the whole book on him. He's got good size. I like standing next to him interviewing today. He's got like he's not a little guy.

4:08So that's good. I'm a cocky person. I want my depth guys to have size, man. Lots of room on the top six for the guys for sure. But I want my depth guys to have size. He's got that. He looks like he's just fine. I, you know, the book on him as they maybe has some heavy boots. I watch him skate today. Looked okay to me. Again, you got to get in the game. You got to get him next to guys who are skating really well. That's what's going to tell you if you can keep up. And he's your typical quiet hard work and smart, well spoken Swedish cat. So I've seen a lot of him in my day and they're all good people and a lot of them are good players. So let's see. Yeah. Lance had wanted me to ask Jason when Jason was honest, just a couple of segments ago about him jumping into the top six while Isaac Howard still hasn't maybe been afforded that chance. And Jason's answer was one kind of along the lines of like, well, hey, listen, life isn't fair. Sometimes that's just the way things break. Where do you come out on him coming in me coming in this quick right after the trade, getting a top six look where I coward is still, you know, and Jason also made the point like he's getting ozone time, you know, he's getting ozone draws like, but he's still playing

5:12on a fourth line role. How do you kind of compare and contrast the way Hollander's coming in versus what I coward has been? Well, I mean, there's a couple of things. First of all, he's on a line. His centerman is Jason Dickinson. So okay, it's your second line right now, but it's really a third line. Really it's a third line, right? Like Dickinson's your three C here. So he's playing a line, you know, I mean, we kind of have a first line, two third lines and a fourth line here at Edmonton right now. So whatever the kid guy comes in, that's where you play him. Like I think I guess what I'm what I'm reading in the T. Lees deck is that the coach probably thinks he can get a trustworthy defensive game out of this guy and play him more minutes. I guess, you know, I have a feeling that Howard hasn't proved himself in that role. He hasn't, you know, Babcock's been trying to put in a, they're trying to get real stingy here and they're trying to be hard to play against and all that. Howard will get there. You guys, everybody out there, the only thing that can hurt Howard, the thing that the thing

6:17that would have put him to rephrase that, the thing that will hurt Howard the most, the most dangerous position for Howard is to be put into a position that he's not ready and he can't deliver. If the coach elevates him before he's ready to play the way the coach likes to be to, to, you know, play at a defensive level, the coach likes, forget the offense for now. If he can't, if he's not ready and you put him in the role and he fails, the next step is always a bad step. So let's just check Kai on Howard. He's in the lineup. That's good. He's playing. That's good. He's in a lot of every night. Or a couple good games away from jumping up a little bit here, but just, just take her easy on Howard. He's just fine right now. What about Alex Fomentin and Matt Joseph? What have you made of their games so far? First four. Uh, Joseph, I don't mind because he's, you know, he's a fourth line winger. So we're not judging him on points. I kind of like his game. He kills a penalty all right. And he plays hard and hits once the wild.

7:19He's got really good foot speed. Fomentin is, is quite disappeared since the preseason. I will say that. In fact, he's probably gone the other way. He's his game is rusty. And I think that's fair. Like leaving everything else out of it. The guy's been in Europe for three years. Winning a board battle in Geneva. Is it the same as winning a board battle in an eye? Okay. It's not the same. So like everything about this team, new coach, new systems, new PK, a bunch of hurt guys, you got to show a little patience here. Like I don't care which think of Fomentin. So I don't care who we're talking about. Therapy's biggest impact doesn't show up in some dramatic breakthrough. It shows up in the smallest moments. You bite your tongue instead of escalating. You put your phone down instead of firing off that text. You say what you actually mean instead of what would hurt someone else the most. Nobody applauds those moments, but they quietly change your life.

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11:23Yeah, right. Like, you know, my answer is almost always the same when you ask people at injuries deck. It's I just don't have enough information to give you an accurate answer. So I'd rather just say, I'd rather take a knee. I don't know what he's hurt with. I don't know how bad he's hurt. He came on skate today. Looks great. He could be on another two weeks. Couldn't plan tomorrow for all I know. So I don't have the on that one. I'm afraid. Well, when he does come in, do you think like who do we think comes out of the lineup? Well, I mean, listen, there's a whole like there's a whole line of guys. Your entire second line isn't playing. Like if you put Nujan Hopkins between Savoy and left wing and Hyman at right, that's a that's a pretty don't you think? Isn't that a decent second line in most towns, right? It's pretty good second line. So there's three guys falling out of this lineup at some point. Now maybe there'll be more injuries and all that. But you know, for instance, a guy like I coward, this is I know that people say, Oh, he needs to be in the top six to show you what he can do.

12:23Well, rookies don't walk into the top six. I got news for you. This is his time to build a base here. This is his time to to build some confidence in his coach. So when all the big boys come back, it's someone else getting knocked out town, not him. Right? If it happened tomorrow and three guys came back deck, who falls off the bottom of this thing? Max Jones, Samansky, maybe Fomenton, you know, sure. Hopefully not Howard. I think he deserves a little more time and I think he's earned it with the work he's done in limited minutes. So I think that's those would be my three guys. What about you? Yeah, I mean like Max Jones, obviously the obvious one. I made this point in the low down earlier. Like it's just, you know, notice respect to Max Jones, but he obviously comes out of the lineup for Philip Holland. And it's like that, you know, he is that guy. He is the first guy to come out of the lineup. Like that's just who he is. That's how he exists. Matt Joseph, I think, would be the second for me. I say it kind of begrudgingly like I haven't disliked what I've seen from him,

13:24but he also he kind of exists in that realm to attach maybe a bit of a different level because of the role. And then I guess probably Samansky would be the third one for me, but Alex Fomenton and you made the point, we don't want to, you know, really say anything after four games. What my, the only thing I would say would be those four games. What we've seen in these four games might be pushed back to suggest he would be the other guy would consider. So yeah, I mean, that's fair. Listen, there's some time here. So boy apparently is still a ways away, right? New Zealand Hopkins didn't skate with a team either. So we got a little bit of time, but there's different guys like it depends what we're doing here. If I'm keeping a 13th forward in town, he better be a veteran guy like, let's, you know, like a Max Jones. I don't want to keep Samansky as my 13th forward. Yeah, he needs to go to Baco and play. Right? No point. And even when he does play, he's playing eight, seven minutes. We're kind of starting, we're starting to hit the point where we might be kind of wasting our time on Samansky and Edmonton. Maybe he needs to go down.

14:24I have whole power doesn't turn into that guy. Right? I just hope he doesn't. I hope he can manage a way to stay here. As for Fomenton, you know what, Sinker Swim, like he's got to make this team. He's a veteran guy. Yeah. So he's going to get some time, but if he doesn't show it and a bunch of healthy dude show up who or had him in a lineup, he may be a casualty of all these injured guys coming back. Mark Spector of Roger Sports, and I join in us here on the Jason Griger Show, Deck and Kruger, Juan Yegretz, setting in deep hearings. That co-embouch, you know, surprise there. Obviously Ryan Shay, Connor Murphy, then Jake Walman, TIE Emberson, rounding out that third pair. Yep. We happy with all that. We happy with Shikir Malkwood-Dulin up in the press box. Yeah, I mean, I think, listen, when he, did he play two games, Malkwood-Dulin? Yeah, two. Yeah, and Emberson's played two. And they haven't given up an even strength goal in two games. So, you know, I know, and I said that to Babcock, then he goes, yeah, but he said, in that I have in the first period, you could have given up a bunch of them. But they got some saves. So, you know, I'd say to you, I'm not, there's only one reason I'm considering putting Malkwood-Dulin

15:29in the game here. And that's because we're playing his whole team. Yeah. So it's a little hockey thing like you try to get the guy in there. But at the stage that this team's figuring out their systems, figuring out their PK, they've got a little traction here all of a sudden, like they let in. What are they let in? Seven and six, 13 goals, the first two games. And the last two games they've let in. And got three points, which is a different discussion. Which is crazy, yeah. Which is crazy. Last two games they let in three all the power play. So, I'm anything defensively at this young stage of the season. I'm kind of keeping the same. We're changing your goalie tomorrow. Jari's going to play. But, you know, as much as you'd like to play Malkwood-Dulin against his whole team, if I'm coached to the team, I'm probably not playing tomorrow either. And well, let's talk about a guy who's playing his whole team. And we'll keep this one brief and make it real quick. We won't harp on too much. But I mean, just, you know, what's it going to mean for Darnell? I listen, like there's all kinds of guys we've covered over the many, many years.

16:30Every kid comes in a league and thinks, man, this is my team. I'm going to play for him forever. And almost no one does. They all move on. And sort of the longer you take to move on the harder it is. And then you get to the new place and you realize, hey, man, there's a whole new life out here. There's a whole new league. There's a, you know, so he's in a new place. He's got a fresh start. He's got a new role. And, you know what, their countenance is scored a huge OT winner last night. So, it'll be weird. It's always weird for these guys. I'm sure it's weird. But like he said today, he's practiced against the orders for a long time. So it's not going to freak him out playing a game against him for sure. Yeah. No, absolutely. Well, Spac, thanks so much for joining us. Last one here, off day in California. What does that look like for you? Well, that's a good question. I just finished writing and now I'm done this, this much look forward to interview. And it's only four 19 out here in San Jose. So I would like I say I'd love to turn on that Elks game or go to a pub and watch it,

17:31but that didn't happen. Well, hey, I actually have some updates from you here on the text line. 1-833-4-1-14-40 by the way. Let's hear it. Lance says isn't CFL on DeZone in the States. So you would need a DeZone subscription for that, but that's one of the DeZone's. Oh, I have a DeZone subscription. Okay, perfect. There you go. And then Redman from Stony, he also said that he thinks in the States, you actually can watch the games on the CFL website. You just can here in Canada. So those are two possible options for you. Oh, this is awesome. Well, I'll keep both those in mind. And see, there's always a hacker out there in our world. Isn't that a thankful forum? There's always something zero zero in the first quarter right now. By the way, SPAC, thank you so much for joining us. Hey, I couldn't go. There is a big game in town here. San Jose State University is playing Wyoming. It's a 9 p.m. start here football game. Yeah, it's a big mountain west battle. That's a decent little conference there. You know everything about this and I know nothing. Would they be starting at nine o'clock because mountain west is doing TV? Is that the deal?

18:31Yeah, so that's that's pretty much how it works. Yeah, she starts a football game at nine. I know. It's crazy. We're starting hockey games at nine pretty soon here. There they're they're actually of some that like Hawaii, they play in the mountain west as well. That's a different kind of conversation. But they actually I live some games that will start 10 if you can even believe it. Yeah, I know. Which like and when you think about it, that doesn't make sense for anybody. I mean, I guess it's so you can do back to back to back to back games TV wise, but like a 10 o'clock west code. That makes sense for absolutely nobody. It's so ridiculous. The ratings must just be in the toilet. I'm not going to harp on that a whole bunch, but like just dude in San Jose State against Wyoming. Where do you think they're eating start? Hey, name me the best guy that ever played for Wyoming. Josh Allen. Quarterback to the Buffalo. He did go to you did go to Wyoming. Now to be fair, that was a bit of a layup because it is. Josh Allen. Your point is taken. It just you happen to walk into Josh Allen. I was going to say Tom Wilkinson. Yeah, hey, there you go. Well, spec, thank you so much for joining us.

19:33We appreciate it greatly and we will talk to you later. All right, boys. Sid, have a good one. Mark Specter joining us here on the Jason. I've got big news. I switched to Verizon and got the new iPhone 18 Pro. Shh. I can keep my old phone. Can I also get the latest iPhone every year? Shh. Anything else? Price, let me choose Apple Watch Series 12 or iPad on them. Everybody listen up. Shh. Switch to Verizon and get the new iPhone 18 Pro now. No trade and needed. And the latest iPhone every year with Simplicity Plan. Plus, choose Apple Watch Series 12 or iPad on us. Simplicity Plan with Simplicity Pro required. Plan and Device Payment purchase are separate agreements with separate terms service plan for watch or iPad required addition terms apply for all offers. Guessing is for game shows. Not your business. Workday is the enterprise AI platform for HR, finance and IT with AI grounded in your context to get work done and done right. It's a new workday. Every game day you show up for your team. Now it's your time.

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