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• The podium of the United Nations was an unusual setting for the leader of a global superpower to threaten to “annihilate the Islamic republic” of Iran or to declare that, in another conflict, “to the victor belong the spoils.” Yet that was exactly what Trump did. Meanwhile, U.S. officials met for three hours with the Iranian delegation to the United Nations General Assembly.
• The ICE officer who shot a Venezuelan man in Austin over the weekend is a recruit who was issued a body camera but was not using it during the incident. Wilber Garcés Pérez, 28, a DoorDash delivery driver, was shot after ICE officers attempted to make a traffic stop on Sunday. Officers were in an unmarked black SUV, and Garcés said at a news conference he did not know they were law enforcement. His attorney said ICE sideswiped his car and struck Garcés again as he attempted to make a U-turn to find a place to pull over. Video captured by a bystander shows an officer exiting the SUV and approaching Garcés’s vehicle before shots are fired.
• The Trump administration has ejected more than 750,000 enrollees from Affordable Care Act insurance marketplaces, claiming that many were receiving premium subsidies they did not qualify for and that some were not real people. JD Vance estimated that removing the targeted enrollees would save the government $2.2 billion. Obamacare enrollment has already declined significantly this year, as the cost of the plans has risen, a potential political risk for Republicans.
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the President's insane speech at the United Nations in which he threatened to annihilate Iran. We'll be talking about the ice officer who shot a Venezuelan guy in Austin over the weekend. But mysteriously decided to turn off his body camera, and this was after he hit the dude with his unmarked car, shockingly, the guy didn't know he was an ice officer. The Trump administration is kicking 750,000 Americans off their Obamacare so they will have no health care going into the midterm elections. This is the two-hour show because it's Wednesday. We go 9-11. Eastern time. Thanks for joining us. Emphasis on your questions and comments. In the second hour of the show, good morning, Jamar. How are you? I'm doing okay. Long time we'll see. I get 26 minutes, I think. I was on, I had the pleasure to be a guest on your show. Always fun. It's funny because it's a different dynamic. Yeah, I got to be honest. Typically, the show covers foreign policy, but when
Donald Trump has given speeches, it immediately feeds into the new cycle. So it kind of just works. And your historical context is just fantastic. Thank you. I can be like, yeah, back in 1922, President, so and so did this, this, this, this, and I'm just saying, they're like, wow. So much like T-Pot Dome. I've heard JT. I have never once been a guest on your show. I am so hurt. I'm hurt. I'm hurt to my soul. Listen, I'm maybe like a cling on in many ways, but I do have two ducks. And there are times I cry myself to sleep. JT's never invited. I think, I think you might be light. That might be a sonali lighting right now. Light Somali light. Oh, did you just say the shirt that that trip made? No, I'm sitting at take a look at these. Take a look at the chat real quick. Okay, well, okay. Okay. Okay. You're right. Well, you're
so far in your JT, you can do this. $29. $29. All right. We'll show it to the fans. Is it up on the it's it up on the yeah, he says a shirt is live on the website. So yeah, all right, let me go ahead and just remind everyone that we do sell merch here. So if you want official, did we do it? Do I still have the merch thing here? Where is that? Is that ice agent deporting a cow? Is that what I'm looking at? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, okay, we have so many vendors here. The merch, the merch site is deprogrammed myspredshop.com. I'm not a fan of the word spread shop. I don't know how drunk you would have to be when you're starting your business to start it out to be like, I know we'll call it spread shop because all the good you are all thinking. Oh, spread shop. Spread shop. Shop like my spread. I bet all the good the good names were taken. I know that I know how that goes.
Okay, so guys, if you have questions, comments, whatever. The second hour is especially the place to send those, but a hell don't wait. We'll take them any time. Rumble Rants and the super chats on YouTube are especially appreciated. Just to remind everyone, we did, there was really kind of not really a confusion here, but on YouTube you can subscribe to the show and support us for $5 a month. For $10, you get thanked in the outro. You probably noticed that if you stuck around till the end of the show and for $20 a month, you get access to exclusive content, including but not limited to a call in chat. I think I'm probably going to start for people who do it for more than say six months in a row. I'll throw in my net, book for free, signed, mailed anywhere in the United States. It's a cartoon collection talking about, it's called No War Mr. Nice Guy. It's about cartoons about empire, foreign policy, imperialism, exceptionalism, and other US bullshit.
Pretty cool. I'm looking forward to that. The book's almost done. I'm putting it to you now. So, all right, where shall we start? Shall we start with the UN speech by the glorious president of the United States? I feel like that is the obvious place to begin. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you want me to start? Oh, yeah. You've been up for two hours. Donald Trump goes to the United Nations. All of the other world leaders are giving their speeches. He meets Xi Jinping tomorrow. But he gives his speech. And this is America that trumpet it to the world. Right. And it is utterly deranged. Like, meaning Trump has given deranged speeches before. This is a level of deranged that is breathtaking. Donald Trump threatened what for what? And changing super AI to super intelligence as if the rest of the world is going to be like, oh, wait, super intelligent. I mean, you know, super telling nobody is going to use that term ever. Right. No. I mean, Xi is always going to be sports illustrated.
Exactly. Yes. I'm seeing addition, ideally. Yeah. I didn't look at the only issue I would ever be tempted to pick up. But yeah, exactly. But somebody picked it up. But now the speech was a little deranged. Donald Trump threatened to enliolate Iran, meaning every last man, woman, and child in Iran in what is really being called a nuclear war or nuclear weapon threat. He even made the point of saying, do I drive them into hell with no hope of their future something? It was an utterly deranged speech. Some people even make the point of saying it broke you in guidelines or broke you in rules in regards to the way the speeches because you can't necessarily sit on the you and make threats against other nations. Basically, I want to clear I'm going to nuke you the other nations. Now it was an utterly outrageous speech. And I think you put on something that I think is really interesting. Trump has done this so many times it becomes a boy who cried with okay, he threatens the newt them every other week.
He's been at war. He's losing this war. Everybody in the world stage knows he's losing this war and does that feed into this kind of amplified rhetoric that is coming out of him because he knows he is completely implanted to do anything about the fact that Iran's if it wasn't in this country. To put a fine point on it, on your point, at the very exact time that he's giving that speech, US representatives had requested and we're receiving a three hour meeting with the Iranian counterparts on the sidelines of the same UN meeting. I'm going to try to ask what Iran's current terms are to reopen the straight-up or moves. And he told them they were very clear. Look, move your military at like all war stop basically it's the MOU they haven't necessarily deviated from MOU all war stop we want recompense meaning we want our frozen assets back. We want the US military stop threatening and it's we want the US out of the Middle East to the US out of the Middle East. Yep. By the way, for as an American, I think it would be good for America if we were out of the
Middle East. But you know what's crazy. I mean the craziest thing about this as a former Trump supporter. One of the things I support in Mon is that he promised is I'm the one who can keep you out of nuclear war. I'm the one who can keep you out of World War III. I'm the one who can make peace. We can kill the deep state we can do all these things. And now it's just like Hillary Clinton is in the Oval Office only she looks worse. And I don't I don't understand I mean and listen the the man should have been he should be impeached on this alone by the Republicans. Yes and arrested. You agreed. I mean you you cannot just threaten death on 90 million people. Men, women, children and meanwhile you have you have these so-called Christian leaders who are up there just clapping like like seals who has the president of the only country in the world that's
ever used nuclear weapons. And has its second largest arsenal. He should be in prison this morning. He should wake up in prison this morning. And I'm disgusted with this while I'm not a Republican anymore. They they disgust me to no end. Yeah they watch it and have nothing to say. The president is threatening annihilation on another thing. And what's wild about it? The media is so wild about this. Like the level of hypocrisy that is built into the media. They will how do you run the speech without meaning how does the speech happen without every media organization on the same page saying the president needs to be taken out of office. He's lost his mind. This is not what America is. You would think that they would at least keep up the pretense that this is not what America does. I mean Kajakalas is already a given a lecture to um four minister Aragachee as Trump is on stage making the speech about annihilating an entire population. It's like okay don't talk to
me. You guys gave up demark. I mean you guys gave up Greenland. I don't want to hear anything from your powerless in the situation. And your hypocrisy is is is is a stench that is just yeah no it's putrid and you know what I mean the thing is there's there's not you know the establishment just doesn't know what to do about Donald Trump right. I mean editorial I mean yeah I mean editor I can just imagine the editorial board of the New York Times meeting it's like uh you know that was a crazy speech like yeah uh should we say anything I don't know I mean we've done it before nobody really cared should we do it again like I mean we can but it'll just make it all be just another impotent statement right that's what they'll be saying uh they're not wrong um you know Republicans in Congress are like come on we can't come out against our own president as we go into the midterms although actually it might strengthen them um better for them to do for them yeah from a from a real politics point of view um you know this look you know what this is honestly there's
a remedy here it's the 25th amendment um this is where and the 25th amendment from a Republican point of view solves a lot of issues I mean can you I can imagine the campaign ads I mean it's a little late in the game and I they should have done this earlier but imagine if today jadey van said uh after you know with after difficult consideration uh and thoughts and prayers and blah blah blah I've decided to invoke the 25th amendment and have received a majority vote from the United States cabinet to temporarily because that's the language of the amendment remove the president from as acting president uh I will be assuming the role as acting president while we figure out what to do about Donald Trump we all saw that speech uh the United States has a special responsibility to the rest of the world uh to be um to be sober and um and calm and rational and even though we continue our conflict against Iran um there are certain lines that can't be crossed and president trump
leapt over that not for the first time um I think it's like and here's the ad that I imagine the Republican national committee running it's like for four years they show like images of dottering uh Joe Biden the Democratic Party covered up the cognitive inability of Joe Biden that forced him to withdraw from the race in just two years ago the Republican Party isn't like that we take out our own trash and even when it hurts us even when it's difficult for us um you know we don't you know we know it might cost us a few seats in the midterm elections but that's okay because when for the GOP the the USA comes first that's a I mean love that's effective right I mean I as a as a as a as a lefty I'd be like whoa that's good that would destroy the Republican party you think that would literally destroy the Republican party look I agree with it they should do it
because it's in the best interest of America for them to do it but man and bring in Robbie what's Robbie because I want to get us take on this the reason why I said this was destroyed the Republican party is because you have a good 20 percent it's kind of like the Sanders thing when the Democratic Party broke with Sanders you got tens of millions of people who sat at that party leaving one of them by the way and a lot of people who I was doing the YouTube videos and everything else with were on the same page at that party I don't want anything to do with it you would never give my vote I will hate you forever etc the end I think you'll get to something similar that for Trump I mean keep in mind there's a good 20 percent of the population where Donald Trump could murder somebody and brought a daylight and they would act as if well I mean they had it coming right they must have done something or they must lose something in the future yeah I guess my point is and I want Robbie second this would this create a split of the 10 15 percent that would do anything that Trump tells them to do and believe anything that Trump tells them versus the other
Republican party which would be enough to functionally destroy the Republican party from ever getting elected in major office it's very well president well the split already exists I know people who don't know like I produce Jeff Dornex stuff in addition to this show in TMI so he has a lot of these Republican guests on so it's like yeah Trump is bad yeah Trump is broke all this promises yeah Trump is a liar we saw yeah like that but for the Republican they come November and and sometimes what what Jeff will do is like he'll let me pop on like y'all do here and I challenge these people why would I vote or hypocritical Republican I can book for a Democrat and get the real thing I mean seriously I mean what's I know Democrats have often had their own version of that same exact comment oh yeah no I get that these people know what they do is that they play team politics so then I I thought just that hypocrisy card I mean we hit $40 trillion under a Republican Congress and a Republican president but yet you say you're fiscally responsible and yet
here we are so why would I at the same time that Trump is promised today's episode is brought to you by Apple ads ads on Apple Maps are changing the way local businesses get discovered reach customers when it counts right when they turn I'm looking into I'm going there in decision making mode actively searching for businesses like yours and deciding where to go customers can easily call you visit and more from the same place they're viewing your ad and all of this happens on Apple Maps a privacy first environment that respects customers and helps them discover new places get started with ads on Apple Maps today and for a limited time receive 15% credit back on your monthly ads spend for a year up to $1,000 per month terms apply head to ads dot apple dot com slash maps to get started try business like never before with ads on Apple Maps
I'm just spend $1.5 trillion if the GOP maintains control of Congress. I like this last guy that this this last guy that this lady she's like oh Libertarian she's talking about how the the Trump is restraining force this is restraining on what so he has started restraining a restraining force saying that she is the democratized seems to be exactly but then the point that what it gives the democrats and their crazy Zionism oh wait yeah of course so then so then what I pointed out is a psychno under a republican administration we killed over a million Iraqis with sanctions Trump started and lost by the way a brand new war against Iran for the interests of a foreign country but yeah you say that you want to make America great again so how do you square that pig it's like what accountability should the republican party have and Trump and Trump specifically for what he has done okay so Robby what do these what do
the what do Jeff's guests say well the democrats to be worse I said Jeff may pick up no which into the turd would I rather handle I said all sucks have I just walk away and just go play with Tucker Carlson sandbox and y'all can just get smashed rightfully so and so also this this split you're seeing here on the right is also happening with the democratic party with with the populace on the left hand on the left so what so what what people liked you and I'm not I know Andrew won doesn't watch this so I'll see who cares basically these people they are like Angie Wong only dumber oh and so yeah careful there about my former co-host no this is my Angie Wong is smart no she's able to at least make it argument she's also really cynical I mean oh incredibly so I mean but the point that I'm trying to make is is that is that both political parties
did I always say if anti woke up one morning and there was you know a giant poster of Lenin on the wall across from her house and red red and yellow bunting all over the place and Mao Zitong posters you know on you know hanging hanging from the lamp post she'd be out there with her Samarins sickle lapel pin talking about how much freedom socialism oh that's funny well the point that I'm trying to make is that both political parties have betrayed the American people they both need to be replaced and why should I reward them with a vote like we're doing the exact opposite of what they're putting the office to do agree I know I would love to get a politician just once just just one who looks at the mayor who looks at the United States and the American people the way they look at Israel or NATO or they're a little little war in Ukraine yeah there are a few like that I mean I think I think Marjorie Taylor green is one of them I think I'm just like Congress she's out right right I think Bernie Sanders cares more about the US
he's just giving speech talking about we need to work with the grassroots people in Russia and over to overthrow Putin's valent regime that's gay yeah I'm literally I'm gonna do that it's really I got a clip I didn't even play it for my audience I was like I'm so disgusted with Bernie Sanders and that's done but you know just in simple in terms of loving loving this country but anyway but yeah your point is taken Robbie all right so let's keep let's so let's let's let's digest here we know what should happen here but we know what is gonna happen which is nothing okay so let's talk about the like as you point out they may put out impotent articles but what needs to take place is Congress behaving like a Congress the cares about proceedings yeah I mean it's it shouldn't be although I don't think we have time for impeachment proceedings I mean as Scott Stantis always reminds me one of the the reason that the Watergate you know Nixon was very popular and it took a
you know about two years or a year and three quarters to build the case slowly over time for the impeachment to the point where the whole country came on board including people who had voted for Nixon and thought you know okay yeah he's got to go we don't have a year and a half this I mean first of all I mean Donald Trump's gonna be done in a year and a half anyway but I think events are moving too quickly it's too terrifying to think of where you know I mean seriously September 23rd 2027 that idea scares me if if this is still the president of the United States even with the Democratic Congress it's he can still wake up one morning like Martin Sheen in the dead zone and say the missiles are flying I'll leave I'll leave and there's nothing we can do I have a question Phil and this is something I woke up at two o'clock this morning I was thinking about this as I kind this is a question to ask JTN Ted could we be looking at shortages and
civil unrest in cities because trucks and trains are no longer moving because diesel is so unaffordable that you're able to ship stuff could Trump then use that as a pretext to cancel the elections and November so guys I was driving I drove out to my dad's you know birthday party last weekend and on the way back I was driving through obviously through Ohio and through Pennsylvania on my way back home I stopped for gas actually I stopped to piss at a rest area and there were tons of semis lined up along the road in a place that's not like an official rest area it's sort of just an intersection in the middle off off interstate 70 in a middle of like cornfield and while I was pissing I was talking to another guy who was pissing a truck driver and and I said oh you guys just you do you guys spend the night here and he goes well not really he goes the price of diesel is now so high that our companies are kind of telling us to just sit still
and don't go anywhere and just hang tight because the cost of operating the truck exceeds the profitability of running the merchandise and having it arrive on time and I said is that true even accounting for the late fees and everything he said yeah so he's like we're the whole he said the trucking system like nationally is starting to break down and so I'd be interested in getting some experts on you know inter intermodal transport and interstate trucking because it's a very obviously that's how most goods in this country move but and I don't know if that guy was full of shit but you know he didn't seem like it but it's out of that I've read similar reports I was at the gas station here in Calisville and you've been here there's a small town deep red I mean it's northwest Montana for God's sake out in the middle of nowhere a lot of cowboy hats and we have no ironing and they're like seriously worn like that yeah I mean well it's even below ties a few of those
well things it's all ranching country here so so which you guys I'd get two minutes outside of town it's it's all rangers they're dying and all over the gas pumps there are pictures of Trump saying I did this wow yeah I by the way I saw some stickers like that I took a photos I think I put it in a chat of those stickers on a gas pump in the same place the in this is like Washington cordhouse Ohio and it's kind of like off US 35 with the intersection of I 71 they have all sorts of hillbilly gear that like you know my son loves me to pick up because he wears it ironically you know like these colors don't run and that kind of shit and that is it that's as red as it gets right it says red is the banner below the screen here and he and the stickers were all on the pump that said Trump did this now that's no big deal but they'd been there for a while I nobody had attempted to pick them off to me that said a lot they should put that everywhere
at every gas station they can find they should put Trump did this Trump did this Trump did this here's the thing though I you know gas and Richmond jumped up to $4.32 and I remember I was in in car and I think I said God is good my mom made me just don't be driving a fucking camper or something yeah yeah well the reason why I say that is it's like dude we are killing people and it's like I think it's like god damn the gas was run up and what's wild is many Americans don't know why like I remember like you think I remember I was listening to a conversation between these women and they were pointing out like yeah food is gone out I can't believe that a whopper calls eight bucks and this gone up and gas and I was like it's only gonna get worse and the moment that you try to explain well answer to lies taking the red seat they're like they're like a answer what they were like what oh who oh my god
and it's your straight-of-our moves right here yeah well they they have no clue they're completely oblivious what they know is Trump did something and gas is gone up they don't know the particular the deep thing about I always say that American politics has rough justice to it right like like it's like George H.W. Bush he knew what a supermarket scanner was he knew exactly what it was he was just being polite and he came off as a as a goofess and but it but but it was fair even though it was unfair because he was a privileged yaley who belonged to skull and bones who was out of touch and didn't really have to buy his own shit and didn't you know wasn't connected to the problems of the American people during the middle of a harsh recession this is the same thing the you know like people don't need to know about you know answer Allah and you know the Yemenis just the proxy war with the Saudi Arabia and all that shit all they need but it's but it's happening under this president and you know the buck stops with him and you know and I guess it's
like every Republican in Congress by the some Republican congressional candidate to start it to peel away and distance themselves from the president in their public posturing which has been interesting the Democrat the Democrat running for for the Congressional seat here in Montana very well could win and he's running on the Iran wars it Trump started this so the two things he's going after Trump on is the importation of hundreds of millions of tons of Argentine beef that Argentina cannot sell on the open market because no one wanted it gosh just up why that is get get mine Montana is a big agricultural state and then the cost of yeah but they've got that sweet gila roothed in potash coming yeah good luck with that but cows don't eat fertilizer not to mention there's nothing coming no it's just it's all trash Trump Trump should be he should be in prison today and the Republicans deserve everything is coming to them and I hope that they get destroyed but what's sad to me is that the Democrats will benefit and they don't deserve it
and that's the other sad part yeah like many like when people talk about that stuff and it's like yeah but what does it really give you like you could say well we put Democrats in office yeah but for what what they do toward what and right an opposition to Trump but it's like that's still just an opposition what are you getting out of it and that's the scam right like you have two political parties and both political parties realize that the majority of things are not going to be something that they talk about because those things are settled how you like capital the issue of wars the issues of you know how many is moved around the country knows everything okay those things you don't really have any say so over so what you talk about is well these big things and the things are not that big because they're not that big of a difference between the two parties on those things a Democrats issue if you listen to like MSBC their issue is not that Trump attacked Iran the issue is that Trump is losing the war and he looks bad and that the American public doesn't like it so they're honing in on it but you know if they're talking about Iran they trash Iran every bit as much as
the Republican parties trash Iran same thing with Russia same thing with any other particular issue it's not that meaning it's done cynical for cynical reasons not because they care anything about the particular issue it's very cynical it's a scam it's like it floats back and forth like Nancy Pelosi one time said well they'll come back to us after they get out of Republicans meaning she knows that they're going to be unsatisfied with the Republicans because the public is not going to get ultimately what it wants and it slashes back to Democrats looking for something that it's not going to get out of Democrats and it slashes back we get flail that's what we do we flail between these two should ask for these getting and that's why we have like 58% you know turnout in national elections right you know which is definitely toward the bottom for and just like all these they don't need to deliver that's the other part let me because you can fundraise on front you can fundraise from the outside well they're delivered to their donors that's so they're delivered to they don't care about us well when Donald Trump is making speeches and he's
like we've done this we've done that he's being honest yeah he's being honest it just doesn't apply to us like like you know when they're doing in school you have to write speeches to a particular audience you don't write it to everybody because it doesn't make sense to everybody is to your specific audience we are the greatest country we've made huge amounts of money we're we're doing great yeah market is awesome yeah just to tell the tale the usual tale of two economies all right let's talk about the talks that took place on the sidelines of the UN right yeah that's worthy and notable so the Iranian delegation met with us reps to try to negotiate and to the war at least the reopening of the state of our moves which from the Iranian standpoint is exactly the same thing because that's straight up where moves is not Rio the only way it's reopening is as far as Iran is concerned the war is over so okay question here and I hope the Iranians would never be stupid to
temporarily reopen it while they're negotiating because they tried that shit before and it didn't they got laid out with the staff that they put into play they got played all right so the group leader the stat yeah he's not there so clearly you know all all apocalyptic and you know rhetoric aside Trump and his administration are desperate to bring this in for a landing what do you think they're willing to give Iran to to accomplish that in other words is it deal possible no I mean it's possible Trump could accept their terms yeah I mean in other words is it likely that Trump will accept their terms no I let's show we go through them I mean like what okay so reparations would Trump return their funds he returned some of them or at least he promised to I don't know if they ever got them probably not right that'd be hard I mean like the way they chest their money it is their money and we have no right to their money anyway everybody as much as we have no right to Venezuela money go we have any right aggression right what we still stole
resources from these countries yeah um I it the way they went after Obama would Obama gave oh Iran is money back I can you imagine that news clip of playing this is Trump complaining about Obama giving money to the guy who's gonna play that game Democrats I mean I don't see Democrats playing that card they may not play that card a true that's true I think Trump can do that I think Trump can get away with that he can return he can return a sizable amount of the money you know if I were him I'd probably be like okay you get half back now half upon completion like a real estate deal you know make him look weak he would never do it it would make him look weak it was gonna look weak if he wants to solve this war because he's lost also war is one of the main provisions that Iran still sticking with yeah yeah they're dog in line and he's got a choke yeah he's got to pull that choker collar on on Israel which make the dogs how you're right right um have you
should they get those can he do that well he can do that he can do everything that's on the MOU every last thing is within the power question is will he and the answer is no have you ever seen the problem I just believe it I don't believe it I don't believe it Ben Moser yesterday was saying like look he thought I was being you know excessive when I said that the US relationship with the with Israel might still continue for another 10 or 15 years he thinks it'll be short of that all right let's split the difference and say that it's seven or six years um that's probably more accurate right um so what's gonna I mean if you know that then you know he doesn't know that do you care about Israel really but he doesn't know that and not just he doesn't know that Trump doesn't know much of anything he's not a bright man and beyond the point what the opportunity dance is and shady fans can tell him but what Donald Trump is doing right now at this very moment is trying to maintain the American empire and he's doing so because he believes that
this capitalism stuff is now going against America right it's like okay we had all of these advantages after the Second World War these advantages have slid away from us now and we are receding as an empire we need to hold back the night and so what is we do we need to lock down South America we need to go after Venezuela and take the oil so China does again we need to go after Iran because we need to uh hurt Iran which would hurt China and Russia just because of the geopolitical position of Iran meaning all of this stuff is down on the table and this kind of naked aggression why would he all of a sudden believe the same big picture meaning in the same way that he's doing this for the world is real as part of the piece of that puzzle i don't think he's going to give it that up i just don't and leaving Iran you know emancipated which for lack of a better term with their military force and everything else within hitting getting very familiar at hitting American bases with ansor la and the resistance fighters also taking part of this particular war that is making America's economy screen i don't get the sense that he's willing
to give up that pic well even in period Japan got to keep their empire i mean their emperor at the end of the war yeah maybe there's some bone that Iran can throw to trump so that he saves a little face right i don't know what that bone is is it maybe you you know Iran agrees to to roll back and support of the axis of resistance to some extent or but like what does Iran need to support haspola they're not receiving tons of material support from from Iran anyway if haspola no longer has Israel up their ass you know it will still exist right i mean that for the time being yeah the resistance is not there just because it's there is there because Israel is irritant to the region has been murdering people in mass for decades and so it's like they're not going to give up what has allowed them to have some level of security not just their missiles but also the axis i mean the fact that Yemen got involved with the red sea and above them at
the upstreet was dramatic yeah like gas goes from like three dollars and 60 sent to four 20 and then doubles like you guys have an insight into why and how the huts achieve their recent you know military advances i mean after years of stalemate yeah um that's a good question it seems that they were in this kind of incubation period like they were building up their power that's what it seems like because the moment that Saudi Arabia hit the airport all helper clues i mean obviously Iran had been on the ground so they were fighting like afghans they were just careful waiting planning watching yeah that's the afghan way like you know you you invade afghanistan everyone heads to the hills and you're like look we've won we can start fucking all the afghan women and move right into their homes uh-huh yeah you you do that and then in a few years they're going to be eating your bones yeah it was the screaming from the hills but that's what it seemed like happened i mean Yemen was
under starvation um deprivation poverty they were being killed by Saudis and i'll out like just came screaming from nowhere just taken over regaining Yemen territory again i mean part of it had to do with Saudi Arabia and the gcc states having to break down themselves in regards to uh policy but all that besides the point it was when they hit the airport is when all of the renewed struggle came about um so look i guess my point is i don't know what Iran would give Trump in this i mean what do you give away um we want your military bases to move away do you really give that away considering that they're launching attacks on your country we want all those to stop we want the blockade to stop okay well Trump can easily do the your spirit of the blockade but the other things are just as important we want to frozen assets you stolen our money we want our money back if you want this war to stop and let's be honest it's not like a ron is immediately hitting the united states the moment that u.s. stops a ron for the most part stops i think they attacked Jordan yesterday
but you know Donald Trump has been responded to any of the most recent attacks that are on this effectively done probably because he's concerned about the midterms but outside the midterms are lost costs i typically i'm the one who's more than happy to blame Israel for pretty much everything including the fly that landed on my cereal this morning but in this case i don't have to case i've y'all seen the the percentage of profit not earnings profit that all companies have made year-to-date oh i know they make it in killing yeah so i pulled it up because i'm bored so exon I'm I remember i'm old enough to remember when congress passed taxes on windfall profits so exon mobile last year made seven one seven point one billion today they're up to 14.58 billion dollars is a hundred and four percent increase uh sorry i got to call my broker right now no right uh they uh yet last year they brought in some uh four point seven billion today they are sitting at nine point eight four billion a hundred and nine percent increase that's a
number of combined the five major companies are averaging between a hundred and three assholes are the wrong business and i think right now i have like thirty forty billion in profits or something like that i mean yeah Trump Trump has no interest in ending this war it is enriching his donors that's why the democratic party is not pressuring to have to have this war ended it is enriching their donors okay yeah but i'm about to channel my life my inner life i'm still going to be in a world of pain next year here um well he's got he's got he's got to care if the new boss is like the old boss seriously what okay so George hw bush started well started war another happened George w bush started a war killed over a million people he's not in prison he's living his best life talking to jenna bush on a morning show jucking up about his new book just not clear if ever happens over the war i don't think they were peaked over the war i don't like us i think they were came with the war i think they would have peaked over financial stuff oh they would have had the war themselves i think i think you're i think if Kamala Harris
were president and uh baby netanyahu came to her and said hey uh i think i'd go and have tree run want to come along for the ride i think there's a good chance she would have said yes yeah i don't have anything because i want right if if i'm i thought she was going to start a nuclear war with the rusher frankly if anything i think that if anything what would happen is that the democrats might try to ramp the war down with her ran and then double down on the war against rusher because for whatever reason i could see that i got a hard on against russians they want dead russians they want they want that war why it is i don't know and in this respect they are just like tunnel trump because don't trump thinks he can beat iran and democrats think they can beat russia and those statements are both equally untrue yeah both of the delusional yeah both of delusional and waste american i need to do it waste the american lives in the case of Ukraine i mean in the case of the ryan and then for trump the call of soldier small potatoes i mean shit like that is like you get these people killed and your response all of the small
potatoes here's a question for you jt is you probably would be the right person to ask about this why do you think the odds are that there's some Wagner types and Wagner instructors train the houthis on a suburbish warfare and how to use these weapons that all of a sudden they're they're getting shoulder fired missiles i can bring down planes i think i learned before i don't know what the russians the russians aren't a resistance actor in the case which is why many people pissed off at the russians in the middle east well stop resistance i've had people leave my show over shit like that over this conversation but i mean the united states is a war with you so it's not them helping the houthis down the kindness of their heart it's them opening up another another front of iran warfare asi mesh war against the american empire they have a ryan they can give ryan also it's a targeting data satellite data also such a not a sure but but but jargon but jargon photography helps the houthis some of russians can be playing both
places they can be helping both of them who knows yeah when that surprised me and then the different we've seen what we've seen what russia has done in in the sehal right they like to outs at the at this point they're trying to keep as small a footprint as possible stay focused on Ukraine they're trying not to get distracted overseas and they're trying to outsource as much of the other overseas stuff to vognor and other organizations they're trying you know they're trying not to do it directly and i kind of i mean i don't entirely agree with it i think you can walk and chew gum at the same time but but that's putons caution is to gentle who is to gentle what is a gentle just to gentle he's gentle so to me and dead Ukrainians that would disagree well the reason why well the reason why there's too many dead dead Ukrainians is because he keeps dragging this war on so putting it to bed three years ago like he very old could have done i don't think he had the power to do that three years ago i know they would never say that but i
mean they had a hundred and fifty thousand men against like five hundred thousand men yeah they weren't conscripting it that many guys and uh like this has also turned out to be a drone war and having more men is not really what you need you need more drone technology and anti-drone technology and more drone operators that we i think it's a training issue i think in terms of getting up to speed uh this is the first true widespread drone war that we've ever seen you know for sure they're making doctrine they're literally making doctrine as we speak um yeah i don't know i mean men i don't this is what war will look like for the next few decades until yeah until like what was some kind of anti-drone defense i mean but the reality of it is Ukraine is running out of men and they went with this idea that you're gonna have drones instead of men and that idea has been found well Russia has men but it needs the right it needs them trained properly and that takes time yeah speaking speaking men have you all seen Trump's brand new truth social he just dropped no god help us all what what what now so canada is destroying itself by
allowing millions and millions of people into the country essentially unchecked and unbedded who are causing problems that will soon be too big to handle it is a liberal takeover that will end very badly already showing up in their numbers big unemployment oh canada president jdjt such a clown um what is he he even talking about i mean they do have a relatively they have a relatively liberal immigration policy but have you ever flown across canada like yes they've got the room okay i mean they need population that's like they're that's why they have a liberal immigration policy yeah they're huge population i mean they're a huge um country i mean karni is right like it regardless of what happened and and honestly the thing with greenland is an exact is a good example of why karni is right the moment that the bully is like hey can you give me a dollar the next day that he's saying can i get to kind of get the pie you gotta you gotta show that dollar up his ass yeah yes you gotta hit him in the throat hard and when he's choking on the
ground stomp his throat as hard as you possibly agreed agreed agree i would have it is Europe as they kept giving Trump stuff he just kept taking more and when he's threatening greenland oh i'm gonna take greenland one way or the other okay this is the same mob tactics that he's effectively used in every other context with ukraine telling them i mean uh or on telling them f off and effectively going to war but there was no way to make a deal with trump even in that context meaning even if a wrong wanted to deal which the deal wanted to there was no way to make it with Donald Trump and the same thing is true for Europe the same thing is true for greenland green land believes they have a deal trump can come back tomorrow and but like by the way i interpret it this way oh yeah totally i mean yeah you can't you have like i think it was marcarny who said that trump the u.s signs all of its agreements in pencil um a light pencil um we have some comments we should do and by the way just a reminder um if you we're not here at the top of the hour this is the first week that we're on the new schedule expanded so monday wednesday friday and today is wednesday we go from nine to eleven that's two full hours instead of one two say and
thursday is the way it used to be from nine to ten a.m. so today uh if you have questions uh put them in anytime but we definitely are more freeform in the second hour starting at ten eastern um some comments math thirty six is anyone heard about the trucker strike october first i had good uh yeah well they need in a way they have to go on strike right quick as we think and afford to run their trucks so i mean it's kind of like strike or is just out of gas is there a different that's celebrating the fact that they're running out of gas so they're having difficult uh what i'm celebrating is an into apathy no i love truckers i mean look they're in a center they're they're they're they're awesome people and they're doing the most important work in this country i mean every CEO could fail to show up to work for the next year and nothing would fucking happen every member of congress could fail to show up to work for the next one year nothing would happen you you lose twenty five percent of the truckers the country collapses okay so
like no they're they're incredibly important people and doing a really hard job for not nearly enough money and uh we all owe them a massive debt of gratitude um you know and you just fuck them over running yeah and like the point is look i mean look if we were serious about supporting them you know the government could easily say listen don't worry we got your back like uh you know you we'll get we'll give you gas subsidies every trucker uh who buys gas at a truck stop is going to get you know um their gas is half off and the and then you send the rest of the bill to uncle sam and uncle sam please the problem is no push no push prices up even higher though that's okay because the problem works the problem of supply versus demand yeah the problem is inventory yeah it's not like yeah but you're gonna end up with like with a covid type situation where you know you have supply chain fuck ups within the continental u.s. you can't have that but here's the issue though so that's gonna lead to a depression i mean then like if there's no there's nothing on no stock on the shelves there's nothing to sell uh stores are gonna go out of business
i mean no but you're gonna lose their jobs nobody's going to war two thirds of the u.s economy is consumerism we've got to keep the consumer goods flowing but here's the issue yeah look I don't know the u.s. going to war i mean look you can have you know you can have a war but you gotta go without your diesel meaning but you just said yourself there's not going to be a deal right so i'm just saying given that there's not going to be a deal this is what this is how they should deal with it they're not going to but they don't have the inventory because uh because it's under capitalism the doctrine is sucks to be you right here's the issue though if you get if you get the if you get the truckers about you like this then what's gonna happen is that big no again i live out here in middle of nowhere i live in ranch country the ranchers cannot drive their tractors they can't uh there's i'd offer it make the same offer to the farmers but we're gonna get the diesel inventory where you're gonna get the diesel out i mean listen i can get a inventory i can give it anything there's nothing right i still have nothing it just be clear the reason that the price is going up well you can have gas rationing too for everybody else it's not
supply has gone low so it's not like it's kind of like the missile thing if you don't not say you're gonna take the missile from the u.s. you get them in 2030 it's something with the gas i mean and even somebody made the point of saying well the u.s. should put an export van on diesel and someone else kind of pointed out it's like but you make diesel from crude and do you really believe that if the u-downit states is hoarding diesel that anybody is going to give it crude in order to make the diesel in the first place like it's sort of it's a calamity yeah it is and it's like i agree with your premise it's like look what you need to give them subsidies just like you did farmers with trump gave farmers subsidies because he screwed up the soybean trade with China because it's an essential service yeah yeah but if you don't have it i mean this goes back to wartime right you don't have it you can't give it right no i can't give it no that you're 100% right so and by the way they used to have food vouchers and all sorts of shit because they were rationing and whatnot can you see this administration saying hey because of the war we need to ration so and so
well i hope the truckers go on strike and i hope they do it soon October 1st is you know only in a week but it's not soon enough because i mean someone's got to wake the take a take a two by four and whack this these assholes on the side of the head right i mean wake them up Daniel BTS the GOP are in Miami Maria Elvara Salazar has been bashing trump on immigration lol desperation mode yeah i've seen that uh two dollars from pw walker voting blue won't save you no it never does um let's see come i mean you can go blue if you want trump impeached but you're not getting anything else sooner the better hundred four twenty i heard brazilian beef is coming into america as well that got refused by mexico lol when i was in brazil the the beef i thought they food fantastic uh it has a good rep um Daniel BTS i'm not convinced both parties still want sorry
i'm not convinced comma both parties still want a strategic relationship with israel and are hoping voters forget about this issue like they usually do with everything sure but this time is this time is different i don't know uh after the leadership i don't think it's different i agree with you that the coming generation is going to be hardcore in regards to the point of view of visual being a genocidal state but the leadership that is paid handsomely by those same people i i don't think they're on the same page they may talk again in order to kind of talk around it like when macron was at the uin grandstanding about um the west bank and say there is no home out to west he accepts the genocide he takes issue with what right like right okay you grandstand like that and you can try to get a clip out of that but obviously he's still on board for israel and he's gonna require talks about it he talks about it it's many y'all this issue is different but everything's always the way it always has been until it isn't right i mean so uh my cock how is
america doing trade when half the world we can't trade with free markets my ass your yeah uh yeah yeah two bucks something like a million dollars a day a day sorry a million barrels a day of diesel are being exported from the us uh and thanks for the donation uh Abdul kid thanks for the five dollars the assumption that trump's trying to preserve the us empire is as faulty as believing he had anything to do with writing the u.n. speech he could barely read the goals to destroy the us economy well i'm sure he trump probably did have a lot to do with the content of that speech because you can tell some of it he's going off script right he does that a lot um but i take the brother point i don't know if the goal is to destroy the us economy yeah i'll explain a mix of that the goal is to destroy the us economy i don't think that's the goal if i'm being honest with you i think the goal is to destroy every other economy yes um if you're looking at what but you do
interconnected world you take yourself out when you do that yep well i think they're looking at it like they were doing in a second world war okay well all the different countries are involved in war so we are also going to be prosperous as a result of them destroying themselves even if we're the less aunt on the ant heel and everything else is in flames chaos is a ladder to take the game of brands um thing you're can fight russia okay what's going to happen in the context of that war we're going to be able to sell the weapons and whatnot especially if we stay out of it um we may do something with china in regards to kind of economic warfare israel is going to go after Iran okay none of the stuff work in reality right the europe and russia thing that may work but the united states is a world in a war which i don't know if they had planned on being in short of israel being in network so i don't know but either way i don't think the goal is to destroy the US economy i think he's just in common yeah by the way just a reminder sorry rabbi just a reminder please do subscribe to the show we need your support on youtube in particular um five dollars a month to uh what
watch the exclusive shows ten dollars for credits at the end twenty dollars uh for very exclusive content rabbi go ahead do you all think it would be in the interests of a corrupt american government to have a got have a population of renters versus a population of owners they prefer renters they would prefer renters but owners would do better overall yeah well because if you want if you want your population to be renters the breaking the current economy we would be how you make it happen i like for example that's the movement that that's the direction they're going and but i agree it's due to the motivated by incompetence but maybe the motivation doesn't matter but that's direction we're going or they just want to make profit i mean it's a capital six short term profit right but but the current is always going in one direction it may go faster or slower but it's going in one direction meaning however they start with okay we have an every you know we're gonna have this capitalism schoolboy capitalism everybody's gonna profit the american workers doing great wages are going up everybody's doing great but at some point
you know they're going to go beyond that notion of hey i can make even more if i do this i can make even more if i do this right in which case you inch your way to the economy that you have now yeah they would prefer renters if you're looking for what's best for a country and a society homeowners you want people to own you want people to have a space if they live in and be and feel vested yeah as opposed to this continuous hamster wheel of paying a rent for something that you would never oh yeah yeah no it's profit they you make more profit from continuously getting the money from people totally and we're being completely insecure all right so let's switch gears a little bit so down there in i guess in austin texas there was a door dash delivery guy named Wilbur Perez 28 years old obviously he's just doing his job by all accounts no criminal record whatsoever he's delivering food and suddenly he's basically side swiped by an unmarked car he naturally
assumes he's he's being he's being assaulted by you know gankster is or something that's what i would think and and anyway turned out of course it was ice the he attempted so when he realized that it might be ice he attempted to make a u-turn to try to pull over at this point the the ice guy gets out of who's a you know wet behind the ears inexperienced new recruit gets out of his SUV unmarked and shoots garce uh Perez um so i should say garce is Perez um he shoots him 28 years old the fortunately he survived um so he's able to talk about it the all ice um goons are supposed to have uh body cameras at this point he had already but this guy had one but it was not on during this incident i call bullshit on that i call it was probably on but they lost ice lost
the tape i'm gonna guess here um because it doesn't make them look good uh this is just i mean you know it's i know it's not like really new but it's notable we have to take note of these things every time they happen until they stop happening right i mean it's the cabboys and there's something in here wrong with this idea of i would rather him be dead than get away there's no evidence of a criminal record it's no evidence that the guy is doing anything wrong per se he's delivering food yeah he's just delivering food so you caught a guy who's delivering food in your responses he's a criminal so i need to kill him okay maybe it's not meaning they would prefer him dead as opposed him as escaping which is wow yeah i mean let's put it let's put this in a perspective if he was a like he had held up a liquor store and the local Austin PD were chasing him it would be inappropriate for them to behave exactly the same way to hit his car in peril other motorists and shoot him even though he just been it was an armed robber
local PD probably wouldn't handle it that way and and this guy he didn't wasn't he you know at most they were worried about his immigration status that's it which is a not even a a misdemeanor right it's just a mind he has already been in the country it's an administrative offense right yeah it's not like he's like he's breaking into the country he's committing some violent crime that we need to stop it's like it's like hunting out of season or something i mean it's not a major crime so so it's it's it's it's i don't want to get away so i'm going to take a shot at him what am i gun it's like what i got to say honestly this shit's not going to stop until a couple of ice guys get killed then it's going to stop because you know basically the ice guys are imparalling themselves i mean look this is America people have weapons you know we're rugged individualists we have the right to self-defense in all 50 states um you know it's like if i think if i can go to a judge and incredibly convince a jury look i was driving minding my business um i was uh you know
delivering food i was delivering food and uh you know this maniac at an unmarked car not wearing a uniform not presenting ID hit my car i felt scared so i availed myself with my second right my second amendment solutions and i popped the fucker i guarantee you that most jurors from far left to far right are going to be like yeah i probably would have done the same thing and um you didn't know who the guy was it's not like he was like unified or top right right i mean i mean you're totally within your rights to do that yeah the fair game i mean if i game i mean you were running up on people unmarked unidentified wearing ski masks what do you think that they're going to do who does that who does that all right i'm just like you know you're going through your faces because you know your goons and just like other goons and other oppressive states you know the same fate well i'm not gonna say the same thing awaits but i guess my point is like they know what they're doing they know
their sins which is a reason why they're not sure in their face but either way i don't know who you are and if i have a weapon and i think i'm under attack i have every right for self-defense every right i agree with yeah i mean it's outrageous what the like the idea that you have the stasi force all throughout the states that are just rounding up people some of these people being Americans by the way they held up to Americans recently uh a little ashamed of my fellow Americans many of whom are armed and and well-trained in the use of a weapon have not defended themselves against these kind of assault and there have been by the way fake ice goons who have kidnapped and raped women uh like basically like like look i have a skim mask i mean i'm a nice officer yeah that's outrageous i mean it's just outrageous that should not be legal now if this guy was really if it was illegal and i have no idea if it was or not they could have just caught up with the interview shifts okay come on with us yes you have to go home being and it'll lock up to him like a normal person and be like yes excuse me sir can we talk to you
so this another example of Trump doing the right thing the wrong way so being an illegal immigrant is not a death sentence you should go home you shouldn't be nice you shouldn't be sent to the next world i mean that's a very different thanks outrageous like like imagine it's right in getting a parking ticket and it cops shoot them because they think he's walking away it's so fucking unprofessional i mean in LA they used to have these like crazy high-speed chases all the time with the LA meeting and the least to call them the ghetto birds the helicopters following them and then even even the crazy ass heavily militarized l a p d that gave the world the SWAT team decided at a certain point that they were in they were in paralleling public safety and it's like you know what like sometimes dude's gonna be getting away and that's okay and other times you know we can see him from the air and we can like set out a str- a rump uh you know a nail strip and and and catch him later do it do it as safely as possible it's just not worth it right i mean i mean the car boys they
haven't gunfights in the middle of the street it's not even gunfight they're just shooting in the middle of the street i mean it's like the reinvent it's like these guys are reinventing the wheels uh when it comes to law enforcement i mean you know american cops have hundreds of years of experience they know what works and what doesn't work it's like why don't talk to people who are professionals and know what the fuck they're doing this doesn't seem like a law enforcement it seems like something else yeah it's yeah what's different at least in my mind it's not running up on people unmarked and snatching them off the streets and i want to re-entersize this is dangerous for ice like they are endangering themselves these tactics are bad for them you know yeah i mean i don't appreciate it and they're gonna and it's gonna happen i mean i'm surprised that they haven't been popped yet yeah yeah all right it will happen you will get no tears from my side on this now i mean i might privately be laughing a little bit i might not be privately laughing a little bit but i mean
it's it's certainly like it when it happens it's not gonna be surprising i mean i don't want to see anyone lose their life really truly well there's a few people who i wouldn't mind seeing if you like a few people i'm not a piece of you people um anyway did you see this story on ALC considering running for the presidency uh no what's the what's the latest New York Times and they come up with this big editorial eight a casio port has 2028 quote life doesn't wait for you to be ready unquote it says in a while editorial yeah this is editorial well it's an interview i think it's interview okay as it's in a while ranging interview the new at times uh the new at congresswoman offered the most detailed insight uh enter thinking about a possible presidential run and her thing is basically like look i'm thinking about 2028 as a presidential run she made the point of saying she's even thinking about a senate run against Chuck Schumer and her concern was like if you know what a run makes sense for her that that's what i thought too a senate run makes sense
presidential run less so no but a senate run makes it i mean for a right why do you think i'll say why i don't but what why do you think it doesn't make sense for her yeah president to run i don't think she is i don't think she's great for presidency for some reason in general or now with prejudice but just something about her that doesn't quite she's not presidential timber yeah oh she doesn't look presidential temper no she knows she she she doesn't i mean look she look the the first part is constitutionally she's barely qualified to run for president right she's 36 years old um she'll be 38 in during during the election um you know i think William Jennings Brian ran the first time in 1896 against McKinley at the age of 36 i think he's the youngest person ever elected he was it was a surprise nomination uh he gave a very uh a famous speech at the democratic
national convention uh you will not crucify us on a crown of uh on a uh on a cross of gold or forced us to wear a crown of thorns and this was the crown of thorn speech um that was about you know a controversy that is now forgotten about bi-metalism right like whether the US should go off the gold standard or or increase or supplement it with by with the silver standard right which was viewed as the more populist working class approach to monetary policy but um William Jennings Brian was a colossus intellectually and uh as an orator um and that's why the convention just went crazy and like was like the they elected they nominated him by popular acclamation he went on to run i think a total of four times um but uh and it's funny to me that he's forgotten now because he was such an important figure that that defined American politics for 25 years but um you know the scopes monkey
trial he was uh he was one of the uh one of the lawyers in that case and he died like right afterwards reap the whirlwinds that's him um but she's no William Jennings Brian um I think she she doesn't she doesn't have it right now she doesn't have she doesn't have what it takes to be taken seriously she doesn't have the garbitas she doesn't have the accomplishments right she doesn't she can't say and she doesn't have the Obama was viewed as someone who had uh amazing oratorical skills she doesn't and he was viewed as having tremendous potential like this was a guy who was like holy shit that you know the world is as always to anything's possible i don't think she's viewed that way she and i think there and i think there will be a president uh there will be a first-woman president it's 200 plus years overdue but i just i'm not sure it's going to be her but i could see her being a vip in eight years i could see that yeah i'm just gonna give a presidency thing for some
reason and i don't quite like i can't all the reasons i accept all the reasons that's true um and the president's there's something about them that is different yeah it's this sort of unsangible thing and sometimes people grow into it like i would have said four years ago that JD Vance didn't have it i think he does now barely yeah i think he's grown into it a little bit yeah i'm not sure he did no i'm not talking about politically or anything like that i just mean in terms of it's the look could you imagine that guy like you know you know giving a speech from the oval office could you see that guy shaking hands with kira starmer um you know do it if i can do it if i can do it if i can do it but he can't but he can't do it well Trump does have he does he has it in a weird way here's what here's what the a.o.c has going for she she's young she's latina she's attractive and she has an instagram account she has a follower
she's probably the first member of congress maybe the only one that you could rightly call an influencer so she's very relatable especially to women voters so i mean she i can't think of another member of congress it goes on there on instagram and puts up makeup on her face while she's talking to her people that's what she does instagram for her is what twitter used to be for Trump she is relatable that's what she was going for do you remember beto or or beto or roo beto or roork following a.o.c's thing of just like cooking and doing instagram putting on makeup doing instagram and talk to the audience he does a dental visit did you do you remember this he went and did a dental visit online i'm like instagram it was the weirdest thing in the world because you can't talk of the dynasties thing about and it's like uh why are you doing this he was trying to glam onto what else he was doing yeah but he couldn't he might take on it because he weren't doing those videos before oh for sure i mean that's what it is and listen i agree with
you i don't think that you should ever get elected uh not to the presidency i think that going for the senate in new york makes a lot sense for her uh as far as where she goes from there i don't know because i don't know how serious she could be taken as a head of state whenever she would have to do get some shit done in the senate more than hillary did uh with all the the only bills that hillary i've ever done. But Congress doesn't do anything. They're shit to get when hillary was a senator she only had like four four bills with her names on it all for renaming renaming post offices but the Congress doesn't do anything with her that's the problem so it I hope that was her credentials yeah i mean it's it's it's it's the epitome of the dead-end shop for job and get paid because Congress does nothing well that's true i mean she could look the thing is like the Bernie Sanders thing where you know he was the long struggling socialist outsider who kind of the conscience of the left kind of taking over the Ted Kennedy role um that i don't
know if she can fill that spot from her i mean Sanders had been doing it for like 20 30 years in wilderness yeah that's why he that's why he had credentials yeah exactly yeah he had credibility i've been fighting this for 30 years so now this is my moment i was doing this shit when Reagan was president yeah yeah and i never deviated that was the same person yeah it was he never doesn't know she does not see her flip on the israel thing anyway yeah but when she was hardcore before she got elected then when she got elected moderated heavily and i saw her interview with um William Buckley's oh show the fire in line i don't think she can pass the stress the stress test either i mean she's not good in an interview i can't imagine her in a debate holy shit great attract a woman actor what do you mean by occupied and she lost she just fell apart she fell apart she's like uh oh she froze she didn't know what to do yeah yeah yeah it's like oh that's what that it that's what that it's not good yeah i mean say what you want
about Donald Trump he doesn't fail those kind of tests um you know anything at any particular moment yeah no i mean so i mean i think she can she has the platform oh i mean i think Chuck Schumer would have to step aside i don't think she would prime well could she could she primary him yeah well she's talking about primary him in the i'd vote for her over Chuck Schumer yeah because i mean Chuck Schumer is like he's well-passed his expiration date you know i mean for a variety of reasons it's not even even if i didn't hate his politics which i do um you know i it's just like yeah i mean you know the dark horse candidate the people aren't talking about for 2028 is New York governor Kathy Hocal um you know i don't like her really but people are but she she's more central casting like she's like the kind of you could you know like in a sci-fi film or TV show you know you can imagine her as like madden president you're like and i can see that
and i think that's a lot of the way americans cast their presidents like could i see this person in my tv box you know um can i see that head floating there next to an american flag and i think you could well i just kind of assumed that every president would be black after Obama i was shot by the way holy shit he's that black he's the he's the whitest of all white guys right right yeah he's just certainly i don't know he's not that guy that you're going to discover like oh and i do i do 23 of me and i discovered that i impart some allie like no that that's not that's not the thing no i don't know um a dark i mean maybe a cafe hulture like i gotta be honest i don't know who's on the democrats bench i know you think booty judge oh yeah i'm on i'm not on team booted judge but i'm on team thinking booted judge is the man to beat you know yeah uh let's see right now um let's do some comments and just a reminder we're now in the second hour
we go nine to eleven on wednesdays and friday's and mondays so i don't know why i put that in that weird order but um anyway so if you have a question comment whatever please go ahead and tell us we are this hour is more about you guys than it is about us so um suggestion for two guests to interview from killroy and thanks for the dono um zackery foused talks about the economy and jd op-dike of global intelligence letter i don't know either of those people nor do i so zackery f o u s t and jeff d uh this is a name i have to admit i have no idea maybe dutch op dy ke of global intelligence letter which i assume is a uh a sub stack of some sorters but um okay and i'm under a ke did you guys see jacob reese mogs little speech about how war is coming filthy peasants need to join the army and many of them might die it's normal for them to die
now i don't even know who who who who who's speech uh jacob reese are ees mogg i don't know that is i don't know either so i guess the answer to that question is uh natal thing i don't know so natal's video they put out a propaganda video for white europeans to get ready to die um for you crazy about rights uh that's uh that seems very happy to go running into the witcher that's yeah those are good times uh that's how my great uh i guess it would be my great uncle um died in is that right yeah great uncle in world war one um rogue bot md but obama was horrible on foreign policy too he let us down the path to the ukraine conflict i never said he said and just turned the middle east into a dumpster fire i never said he was good i just say i assume there will be a black president it's so funny how people interpret that right like like i remember giving a speech one time in the oh four election and one of the q and a's someone asked me who i thought was going to wait and i said bush and people booed me and i'm like i you asked me who i thought was going to win
not a lot you want to win right and i was like a one of those who win and also i'm not a warlock i don't make things happen you know like you know like no i never said obama was good on foreign policy i mean the no i wrote an entire book about how obama sucked yeah anyway i remember i was having a conversation with a guy and he said um he says you know i don't think black americans were ready for a black president and i remember like thinking about what he meant by that like his point was this ability to hold a particular president accountable became impossible because for republicans were attacking the president and you didn't necessarily want to join in to some of the racists that they were saying like the eight pictures of what's the name the axe for the birth certificate all the shit is well beyond the pale right no white president had to show a birth certificate no it's me the office um that should have disqualified Trump and no abad self but a good friend i didn't care all that much about it i guess my point is his thing was it is impossible to hold the first black president accountable that blacks if indeed republicans are doing
racist shit about the president and and he's right like nobody could say anything like when you had like um cornell west or jesse jack jesse jacks is a few things like he's like i'm gonna cut obama's balls off he's been open to the black people um he's like i got to cut his balls off i mean this is the same guy that was crying on the way house long when juteilin obama got elected right yeah i don't know man it became complicated cornell west was ostracized because cornell west was going after obama full bore he didn't necessarily care that the other people were going after him but it made it complicated and it complicated for sure um maybe let's see uh uh uh uh uh uh uh okay um about a OC maybe blue funk please ask yourself if you'd say any of these things about trump well you'd say different things about trump i mean before trump ran and i was being asked about his chances to run and whether he'd be uh whether he could be elected president uh you know
i definitely taught he had he had first of all you couldn't say he was too young that certainly wasn't true um you know but i mean you could say you could definitely say he i kept saying he had no political or military experience whatsoever and historically that has always been something that people wanted um he was also rude crude and socially unacceptable and i wasn't sure that the american people were ready for president who was basically a carnival barker um now i mean i i'd say different things because aoc and trump are it's just not at all the same people you know i mean politically or temperamentally or stylistically or generationally at all so no i wouldn't i don't i don't mind the check in terms of like well are you being sexist but i also think we have to like to be clear here i would happen there's any number of women who i would happily have voted for for president elisabeth warren is one of them even though i have problems with some things about
apologies but but her her her yeah she's a snake it's true and what she did to bernie and stuff but the point is there's definitely it's i think it's uh but i think more to the point when you acknowledge the fact that like women face challenges in running for office that men don't and that the public isn't used to seeing women in in high positions of power uh in the same way and even i know a lot of very well educated smart women who say themselves they would not vote for women um i'm reminded of barbra jordan who always said that she was you know she was a famous black congresswoman from texas who um she uh was famous during the watergate hearings and she said it was much harder to be a woman politician than to be a black politician in the seventies right so i'm aware of all that but you have to acknowledge that like you know it's an impediment like with bootage edge you know his biggest impediment is the the fact that he has that he's gay right and
so it's not homophobic to point that out to say like the public would have to get over that i mean it's not an advantage it's maybe a slight advantage in a among the democratic leadership they i think they would like that um but among the the lectured in general i think it's an impediment i mean i did ask myself was that being sex i think i decided openly like a loud like i'm not being sexism thinking about this um would you vote for a 36 year old dude with the same exact political and life and history as aoc and the answer is no no i mean it if all things are i don't have an issue voted for a woman right i would um we're way overdue all things being equal if it's a man and a woman in their identical i will vote for the woman just because it's time well i don't know about that i mean like i'm speaking equal all things being equal i mean all things being equal all things are never equal no all things are never equal but if the guy likes stutter if the guy read don't i probably like like if it's something it could be something it's like okay
i need to make a choice i think i'm gonna be a punk rocker i might that might do something for me i think it would be she's very attractive i can see myself worshiping her as a body member right it could be something silly if all things are being equal but i don't think it's bad to have an attractive um president either because oh no great it's also i mean you have to see them all the time and also you know it frankly um you know people who are more attractive are gonna you have better luck in negotiations and get along better with foreign leaders so yeah yeah john of kennedy right i came alive oh that's the um no i wouldn't have an issue i think it would have robbed you are muted i would vote for the 36-year-old guy if he promised to burn down the entire system that's screwing us all because he's closer to it like i don't know the example the democrat who's running here for the congress here in montana uh he's a smoke jumper he's a firefighter is that politics is never what i was playing on doing yet here we are and so if we're able to
have a guy who's running for president kind of like uh collect what trump was only without the string of bankruptcies and stuff so uh the system does not work these companies are making record profits they are screwing each and every single person on the plan on on on earth starting with american people i want to burn it down completely and start over i would vote for him just what's your platform sir burn it down got my vote seriously that'd be enough for me the status quo does not work the burning down thing i'm found with what i mean i think that's why a lot of people flock to sanders and trump ironically because both of them had that energy of you know we have in a political revolution we just start from scratch here yeah the the stuff is going to we have to change everything sanders didn't mean it but you can't again you can't vote your way out of a problem like this i mean you know you can't vote your way into a revolution by definition yeah well right it's a revolution the entire point of it's the overthrow the previous order not to right and that means the whole thing's got to go i
mean i mean i here's what i always ask people who say like oh we shouldn't have a revolution i'm like look if you were starting if you were at a constitutional convention and it was 1789 all over again would this be the system that we created and the answer is fuck no okay i mean there's from the there would be no electoral college there probably wouldn't be a second amendment there's a bunch of other stuff that we wouldn't do and we we wouldn't have a two-party system we'd have a multi-party system because that's what most Americans want right so you know i mean the fact is that we would be doing everything differently in a really radical way we'd have a far more robust social safety net so given all that okay that's where we want to be that's where we would be if we had the chance well the how do we get there the only way we can get there is through a revolution because the system is not going to change itself into that now yeah but apathy like it's it's apathy
it's over the like like what i was telling the story at the earlier part of the show where you don't think it's just resignation i think in some part it's i think part of it is people don't know what's going on or they get snapshots um i think the other part is okay well even if i accept what you say is true how do i do anything about it well yeah i think that part is the part that's cute yeah and because there's no work there's no organization that could like help bring that about so it's like somehow something has to come to people weren't resigned they'd be stupid they're right not to think that anything will change because nothing is going to change until we're in a you know there's some organization or something right i had to go through the similar thing right it's like you had all of these years decades hundreds of years of slavery or Jim Crow etc and then the catch becomes okay we need to mobilize for the rights but everybody was in the same situation okay well what do you expect us to do with that it's always going to be this way nothing is going to change etc etc and then well then people started organizing it started organizing but the same thing has to be
true for this and it has to be less nebulous has to be you know this is what we are aiming for yeah and i think that's the killer that's the hard part yeah that's the hard part it's people would agree with you that everything is fucked up i think you change it is the part that creates inhibition and it i'm not gonna say apathy in and of itself i mean we obviously i don't think people care is what apathy implies that you had people just don't give a shit yeah i don't think they give a shit i don't think that's quite true i think it's people are they despair that a new world is possible well and they care about their individual self that beyond themselves well they have to now i think jt i think that you i think that you hit on it earlier because remember you're talking about that lady who's complaining about the cost of a wapper yeah it's like oh my god i'm gonna ask this will hide and beat this will hide like the wapper is so expensive it is like hey i mean i have to have a self-governing system of government you've got to have some buy-in from the population as if you know you've got to pay self-detention what's going on if you are too
lazy to do a google search and see what exactly is this going on if you're if you're that checked out if you're that removed representative of the system of government cannot work by definition if you i don't know how many people care i mean we in a representative government we effectively tell people just sit down vote and everything will be great that's kind of the way we explain we take it from here yeah we'll take it from here i mean the entire point of it representative right when you're going to represent my interests in congress when the reality of it is there may be a million things that they can do what do you think they're going to choose okay bob is paying me a hundred thousand dollars maybe i pay attention to more bob is supposed to dissolve the people because these other people i can just win them over when i get the money in order from bob like at a certain point you realize there's so many things that they can do in that office that ultimately they're going to air to a society of people given them the cash because from their point of view that is how they get elected that's rational by the way you can get propped true rational by the way susan Collins did you see the poor public a piece no no pro-publica put out a piece of susan Collins accepting
bribes and they caught a red hand if the FBI had a case against susan Collins what and when Trump got into office trump gutted the FBI in which case you gutted the case against susan Collins apparently there was some kind of firm that was given her super pack money susan Collins in the thank you before it even registered that the money was sent from the super pack basically we caught true red hand you're not supposed to be working with your super pack you're accepting money from these guys that are tuned with hundreds of thousands of dollars you're giving them thank you's directly even before the money even airst meeting you're talking to the people who are paying you yeah and she pushed them millions of dollars in contracts no i did i did do a search on the yesterday because remember that that guy who is running against susan Collins the democratic got me to and got yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah gram yeah gram so i decided to follow up on that the woman who accused him she never she never went to the police after he dropped out of the case after he dropped out of the race which makes me think that there was nothing to that at all
and it also turns out that it also turns out that she invited her to the house because yeah gram platinum because she needed to have a she needed to have a a a thigh massage that text message is never released by the media he got well what we needed at that massage the woman who accused them of rape she said she needed a glute massage is in the text message the media never ran with it they they talked about the relationship they've ran full on with the accusation to me like a request for a butt massage it was so to me that sounds like it's not that so it's just showing a butt massage maybe you want to use a butt massage though in this day and age but the point I'm trying to make is is that susan Collins is going to be the senator from Maine yet again I don't know about that I know I think I think she's in deep shit now so Deborah Pouzzo I think that's the end of her mainers are not going to put up with that shit but that her is right on that shit I mean she's given millions of dollars of contracts well the Democrat is a good the Democrat who replaced a platinum is a pretty solid candidate so yeah but she's done she's
fucking done I hope that I hope the platinum sues the hell that woman that accused him I hope he goes and feel like yeah there's always the strife and effect if I were him I'd lay low so you're already slated I believe me I know all about it don't you think that you're that's your riposte already just just do it believe me I know all about it if that blows up in Maine she's toast they got her did the right yeah consider it blowing up if it was a trauma okay um desk burn what about oh John what is it Josh O'Sopton also I know so he's been he's been setting it on fire lately I've seen some of his speeches I don't know it just I mean to me he made me flat I don't get it he's a Zionist Jew the Democrats would never supporting he would never he's the whole Josh Shapiro effect only he's not only he's not he's smart enough not to sign bombs yeah I mean seriously also I don't get it like I actually more understand Josh Shapiro's
appeal as a candidate than O'Sophe I mean Shapiro has the Riz I mean you know I mean just don't want to bomb my impressions would never fucking vote for him yeah it's just an Obama impression yeah yeah yeah it doesn't do it for me it's like all the Democrats have just start doing that as their cadence thinking that this is the way to get it meaning from their point of view it's about messaging instead of about substance all right Q&A continues with Macadam thanks for the dollar Ted are you aware that urinal etiquette is that we do not talk at the urinals and do Robbie and JT approve of Ted's pension of striking out conversations at truck stop urinal I'll just go bring that up so a it was not a urinal it was the side of the road so y'all are peeing on the side of the road peeing on the side of the road okay and I don't know if that if that's an exception and B I did not strike up this conversation who struck up the conversation the trucker did and he both of you penis is out peeing yeah and he says hey by the way you just like you know like cold morning huh cold morning there was by the way there was a
there was a ballroom called rose land in which they had concerts and shows and stuff like that in Times Square I saw the kings there the sex pistols and the the year it was an old timey like you know probably from like a hundred years ago like ballroom like where people would like mead and like you have dance cards and stuff and in the in the bathroom the men's room was cavernous in the basement and it had rows of urinals facing each other what yeah oh you're like right there that's so weird and it's like you're sort of like hey hey it's like I know that this is pretty good party right it's god that's so weird oh that's so weird I know in Egypt they had the things in the floor while you had peat like directly in the floor like a hole yeah the the turkey style those are so gross oh but you get a good squat going right it's like the
it's like the squatting part you get like things come like come out better you know you may get totally in a day of the weekend twice on Sundays I don't know I think I think the I'm on team squat all the way right maybe blue th punk this man has killed multiple people raped children brought an existential war to Iran created a Gestapo maybe blue th punk but she doesn't have leadership potential yeah but we're not talking about who's the better president or who has the better policies or talking yeah we're we're we're handy or who's yeah we're handicapping who could win an American presidential primary and election those two things have little if anything to do with one another it just be clear we're not saying her quality as a candidate like meaning nobody's saying how good she'll do us president right that's not I don't think there's any way to know that right the argument we're making is can she get elected right and there's not sort of and one of the reasons that risk and people like kind of I move the presidency then I would lose my congressional seat also
which true you know makes me think twice about right and people and people kind of like you know I mean so when people consider who to when American voters go to the polls they they think of it like it's like a feeling it's a vibe do I think could I see John McCain as president could I see Sarah Palin as president um you know it's not about now Sarah Palin may very well have been an excellence president we'll never know but the point is that we you know it has nothing that's not what we're talking about here I mean Donald Trump is a fucking maniac and he shouldn't he should and you know like like Robbie said he should be in prison like you said he should be in prison I say the same thing um yeah we're not preparing this no it's like and believe me yeah yeah president maybe maybe you know I'm sure in a new age for a thousand years could we'll be
that's not really what I'm judging I'm judging on you know I actually don't have any sense of what of whether she'd be a good president or not that I'm not even thinking about that um I mean that there's so many variables there and you know it's hard to say I mean I don't know that she's a student of the presidency you know what I mean like in terms of what works and what doesn't work she may well be I don't know if we hit the skits like again man this will be an opportunity for a left wing candidate to knock that shit off the part yeah in a crisis yeah this can 1932 right like falling apart look at what if the R did FDR did whatever the fuck he wanted because of that crisis yep exactly yep I'm gonna move heaven and earth aliens about the tech earth I get grace to do whatever the hell exactly Ryan the Democrats are a Zionist party and no care what their base wants well that's for damn sure they will go with Ossoff I don't know but I don't
know maybe I just believe that they can I don't believe a Zionist can get elected yeah the Democratic party they can't be nominated they can't be nominated exactly Andre 420 can you guys ask Robbie hey Robbie uh what do you think about Said with Carmola I think Said is a con man sure I think I think he's a younger Bernie Sanders with no substance no spine and he's got the looks but he has zero substance and he's he's he's gonna let down a whole bunch of lefties because he's he's more of the same well only with a with a slight tan well at least you didn't think you should be deported but he's from here I can't the word him but do you think he's doing this Carmola Harris thing to get you like meaning I need to somehow bridge a gap among people that for whatever particular reason I just don't have access to
and apparently I was listening to a um that's not a piker thing where he was like hey there's a gap between the black community and Muslim community and I'm like really I need to ex-late about this because I didn't really realize that this was the thing I mean I saw it in the polling where the black areas went to his opponent sure uh man he was able to take the other areas of Michigan but it was a close race well man he could always just reach out to the nation of Islam I mean why would you reach out to seriously why would you reach out to Carmola she she has a rest she's she's she's directly responsible for the prosecution of the untold number of black men play them in prison for smoking pot while she laughed about doing it herself she has an innocent so he sent an innocent dude who she admitted she knew was innocent to death row he's still in San Quentin so if you're trying to reach out to the black community you probably wouldn't reach out to the woman responsible for being black men in prison so that's probably not the best play uh great although there's a lot of there's sort of a lot of mainstream you know black voters older people
church goers who the kind of people who respond to uh the James Clyburns of rural already tight stuff yeah like maybe like think of what Sanders went through Sanders uh I remember he gave the speech at a church and it was a black church and everything Dini is saying is getting applause lines like they love him what he's saying right clinton gubs up gives her speech milk toast and yet when Sanders leaves all of them are on team clinton he's like oh she's establishment that's the way they look at Kamala Harris may also be looked at as the establishment which gives blacks oddly enough for what of a particular reason it's kind of licensed to latch on to the party undress like I don't know it's very weird I agree with you on some parts Robbie because it's not like Kamala Harris got the black vote when she was running into prime her block voters because it's mostly conservative within the democratic party I think they they're afraid of wasting their vote I think their their votes were hard to come by and they're afraid that like if they vote for a radical
it they'll lose and their public until again and make their lives even worse yeah because I wanted to win if I had wanted to win all he would have to do is have press conferences at every gas station in the state said this what's going on this president in this congress started a war for Israel and you are lily repaying the price for it right now it's not a racial issue it's it's a literary class issue it's between do you have to do you have to buy sardines at the dollar store to survive as opposed to going to water burger but I guess water burgers are existing in Michigan I mean pick your restaurant right um you hear what I'm saying though that's why you don't reach out to the black community by going to Kamala Harris who has incarcerated black men yeah but yeah a lot of voters don't view it that way but look I think I think like I was telling uh Jamar about two hours ago on his show and you know I mean I think my take here is that uh you know say he's trying to like make inroads with the black community with black democratic politicians
and Obama's refusing to show up for him right which is well so he had to make do with like caretop of black politicians here Obama is the one that he needs yeah he no Obama gets it done if he if Obama goes there it's finished that's like eight points in the can for Nito don't need to campaign I remember black gafing when Obama when Bob was like Obama doesn't care about that and immediately overnight the black community was like man is nothing wrong with gay we never really had initially a gay and the fact that Obama's not go oh Obama was showing up for Said either because he doesn't think Said is definitely gonna win or because he's so corporatist he doesn't want Said to win and he would rather the democratic party lose as you know lose a mildly progressive candidate then you know and allow the Republicans in they don't want that to happen I suspect that's where Obama was like churchgoers vote for a spineless Muslim man yes if he's against a
Republican see because that's the rub right it's not like Said is running dance and up the Democrat he's running against Republican and under my model the Democrats black Democrats one main item who keeps the monsters at bay that's the point it's just eating your lunch right now every time you every time you go to the gracious toward the monsters eating your lunch every time you go to the gas station the monsters eating your lunch the monster's not in my he's in your house the monster in this analogy is a Republican party yeah that's what I was young and growing up that was the modest operandi who keeps the monsters at bay the monsters are in the other party we need to stop the other party so you pick what it would random Democrat that's effectively there you don't even know who the Democrats are it's just all right this is the guy and you go and put your business monsters because I voted for this random Democrat that is running its course that is a fairly random course right but it's Said is running against a random Republican how the hell do they turn around and vote for the Republican I just don't see it they say home I don't see
them voted for the Republican well why would you vote for the Republican the Republicans want to screw you exactly but I guess my point is it's Said is worried about the race and he's worried about getting enough Democrats on it's tight it's tight real clear politics average for say it's currently has said ahead by 2.8 that's within the margin of error that's tight and by the way the last primary race was way closer than they were let me tell you what I was doing and y'all gonna think I'm crazy for this but although this doesn't have as many un this doesn't have as many undecided as uh well that primary race did go ahead Robby if I lived in Michigan to tell you all exactly what I would do in the sciat if he's watching the show this what he should do I would go well he might have an easier time because he's Muslim I wouldn't go I would step a million with Louis Farrakhan's okay here here I am pacing work on it's 5 million years old man doesn't matter but I mean but yeah hear me hear me out here but I'm most Christian we disagree on a lot but we've
re on we agree on these things that the economic just the last thing he needs to do is hang out with Louis Farrakhan the economic system is screwing us all we started this war for Israel my opponent supports more of the same let's take this to Main Street and the reason why I've got to the reason why I've reached out specifically to the nation of Islam as a Christian feminist is because they have a ground game never organization that's why we do it do they still have a ground game an organization I mean I haven't seen mention of Islam I mean they used to be a Richmond all the time my barber but one of them used to be Muslim black Muslim as you can say do they still do that let's find out I don't know the answer to this one I know that I have about like a lot of voter drivers and stuff and they do a lot of charitable work that kind of thing so many they have it they have a game they've got more of a game than the Kambala Scott what is she here she has a camera I'm by the way I'm looking at say he's platform and it's it's it's worrisome
basically he talks about overturning citizens united he's gonna happen getting rid of the Senate's filibuster also ain't gonna happen Medicare for all also ain't gonna happen taxing the wealthy all of this stuff is federal and you know he's this isn't about that this race is gonna be about how you can re-industrialize or replace the de-industrialized upper midwest right how are you going to what are you gonna do for michiganters you have hollowed out cities like Flint you know how are you gonna poverty opioids unemployment housing those are the things that people in michigan are gonna be worried about and if I were him I wouldn't be focusing on a bunch of pie in the sky bullshit I mean I'm worried about him I he can lose this race now I agree but he's going to the Senate I mean I guess he could put legislation that we try to re-industrialize the midwest and those type of things yeah yeah I don't know I mean I think he's a squishy
Democrat frankly yeah he is I could be wrong I think he's squishy and he's not and he's charmless yeah yeah I think he's got the charm like nobody's business because mom Donnie was very he's very charming oh so charming I mean he might dislike him but he does come across very likeable he's a likable dude I mean come on he is yeah that's funny that's very likable also he on his on his seat driving around town on his city bike with the older Jewish guy who was helping him out Bradlander so cute with their little bromads doing the polar bear swim at Kona in his suit diving diving into the public walls on the opening day of summer in his suit I think that's what I mean right like that works especially funny York it's so maybe Michigan is different but I don't know sure yeah but I mean yeah say you just like I mean like who would okay this would be the beer test
who would you rather have a beer with I mean for me it's mom Donnie for sure it's going to be a more a fun much more funny evening please bring you white she's very attractive say say you it's going to be bringing like all of his Y chromosomes I'm going to be I don't need to be out butched you know all right let's see Macadam we got to talk about we do have to talk about the ACA a little bit Macadam with all due respect if I'm pissing on the side of the road and a guy comes up next to me and whips it out I'd be uncomfortable with or without the conversation I love it you seem to be very comfortable with that I'm I mean you know it's not the first time anything like that's happened I'm 63 if you say we need to fake alien invasion to unite the empire maybe the aliens can explain to us what a woman is Macadam do you think Trump do you think Trump would be impeached prosecuted or extradited to the hagg or anything at all if he nukes Iran God would have a good question I don't think so I don't think so you should be that would be the moment
should be any random fun for when any functional government wouldn't have allowed him to do it in the first place true he would be so the British as a hero but from now I don't know I don't think so no people would be absolutely appalled no I'm not sure how the people I'm talking about the way that the media and the establishment would do is that he destroyed this the largest I know all terrorism on earth I've never disagreed with you anything more than that even Fox News would be out to listen I hope to God even OAN couldn't be there for him yeah like I think they would be horrifying they would be hard no one you would be one the war there's that right like you've already said they're beat the death they don't have a military to have any of this stuff they don't even know straight we're gonna name it straight of America and then you nuked them yeah yeah after saying you're gonna destroy 90 million people oh I think people he would be forced to resign within days I think for the right like I said before the man should be in prison for even the retina yet yeah but I just I just don't know I think that the way that the propaganda goes like we we
received credible intelligence that Iran was about to nuke Baltimore and so we and so we tried I think you would try yeah but just like saying we really believe Iran is nukes down no do we really believe the Donald Trump with the war for nukes no do we believe the Donald Trump attack Venezuela because of drugs no Donald Trump even said in the new in speech that it well we're not gonna allow anybody to make people can't find South America on a map so this is they're gonna resonate with them yeah but I'm trying to make the point of saying like he's he's obviously lying and people know he's lying so it's not like okay he's coming up with a new lie and people are gonna accept the new lie they were gonna be horrified yeah and look I don't know if that's the moment JD Vance is like time for you to go and the cabinet follows that's probably what happened the fitness there would be a there would be a race there would be a race like Mike Johnson would be racing to impeach him Vance would be racing to 25th them the media would be racing to force him to resign yeah I think and the dude wouldn't last a week no question I hope
that's all right I hope that's the case I hope I am you're I'm convinced I'm your source of this point will be horrified by that shit I mean people I don't think people are responding to the speech because they've gotten so used to the Donald Trump saying yeah they don't feel like it's real right they think this boy cry wolf once again yeah boy we're all right I hope you are I hope they're right too right I agree because I don't know as a flat fat for all I know they could be like business as usual and keep moving true true true uh Andre damn Ted turned Robby into a commie I knew that was going to happen uh maybe booth funk they wouldn't allow L. Said to get to get this far if they didn't know how to bring him down I don't I'm not that conspiratorial yeah I mean either I'm not that I don't think they wanted him to get this far yeah I think they wanted to win it okay let's so the Trump administration just announced uh they'd advanced is in charge of this effort that they're throwing 750,000 Americans off the ACA insurance marketplaces um this is the time
the year when people are you know re-upping and stuff for their insurance um this is a basically see the government claims that some of these people were getting premium subsidies that they weren't supposed to get ironically that the way this was working is that some insurance brokers were telling people to claim that they received more income than they really did uh and so that they would not be they'd be making more enough money not to be on Medicaid but that they would then receive the actual normal ACA Medicare uh the not Medicare but the affordable care act with lots of subsidies so it was kind of like a weird fraud apparently there was some of that the government event says that going after these people will save about 2.2 billion dollars but fundamentally these are all people who definitely needed health care and and so I mean they may have like you know
wiggled around the edges to to to finagle the system but it's not like it's fraud it's not like they're making any money they're just trying to like you know afford to see a doctor and you know there's some there's some political risk I suppose but I don't think there's a lot of political risk but it just sort of adds to the sense that like at the very same time that the government is sending billions of dollars to you know cutter and the UAE and the Saudis to and Israel that they don't have any money for us when we want to go see a doctor it just seems to me like well you know what you just did you just created 750,000 new Democrats is what you just did the number of people that were removed from doge like what they were going after Medicare Medicaid whether they were going after Social Security they were destroying those organizations the number of people that they were firing directly impacted the service that those organizations can provide and the service
I gotta be honest was already like blester because they didn't have enough people to do the job meaning we weren't putting enough resources in those things those things the function in a way that they were supposed to function but they still did their job to the assistance of millions of Americans that were on the program also security look it's a bit rich that an administration that is one of the most corrupt on a planet ever from standpoint of the US with a president that has been monetizing the White House and is using his kids to monetize the White House making all sorts of deals based on the legislation that they're pushing out it's a bit rich that they're like hey there are few poor people who try to get healthcare benefits I don't care yeah me neither the people need that but meaning as you pointed out this is not we're scamming to get a $1200 check this is nobody's getting a single penny from this yeah right this is just about healthcare and I gotta be honest I don't believe them I don't believe I mean I am I am prone to not believe them when they come out and say stuff like this oh we're getting rid of nearly a million people from the healthcare
roles but because of fraud okay did don't really get rid of race waste fraud and abuse no doge ended up costing more money exactly I'm trying to make the point of saying this was about not to mention what the fuck is going to happen to these people already enrollments and the ACA marketplaces are dropping and the whole point was that it's supposed to work by using you know economies of scale right well if people are dropping out of it because it's getting too expensive and you're kicking people out you're gonna have fewer economies of scale for a system that's already in big trouble doesn't work well as it is and it's not the one first place well yeah no for sure but I mean what these people are gonna turn up at ERs that's all that's gonna happen true but Republicans don't care like this I mean I'm not going to go to the portion argument but this kind of the whole thing right but they should because the Republicans are really weak on the healthcare argument and it's a little dispiriting to see Democrats completely commit political suicide by failing to you know run ads and
make fun of Democrat of Republicans for not supporting healthcare because that's popular with American voters I have no evidence that these people did anything wrong no first just add none no and the Donald Trump who has just claimed he's gonna destroy the world and who claimed that the ballroom is legal and we're gonna need their healthcare when that when that radiation cloud comes back around the earth and comes over the Midwest I have a conspiracy I'm trying to plan out the lawyer's liar on the planet is claiming that all these people did something wrong this way he's kicking them off of a healthcare plan that he never believed in and he tried to get repeal over 40 times I don't believe him yeah I have a question for you all let's just say for example for the sake of argument Trump actually isn't pitched and that the Senate votes to convict them what do you think the odds are that he would convert to Judaism move to Israel and run for prime minister no think about it you don't think so no but you know what the the better question is what are the odds that he
flees into exile to Saudi Arabia oh that's what the media mean did oh they're not gonna take him no they're gonna take it Trump left them in the lurch against the overthrow that's true yeah and also keep in mind no net and y'all who set up a brand new a brand new subdivision called trump heights they're on the golden heights did he did he did oh god he did some back in his first term uh that's what the sweet orange stand of trump heights I mean actually have a big old sign that welcome to trump heights on and the in the occupied golden heights on somebody stolen my check it fact check it I could see it I could see it I could see it maybe evocative no she isn't heard her name is jail well I can't know how long Trump is for this world but however long it is yeah that's a good point does Israel have a dollar the first to call the Democrats are gonna impeach him or convict him in the Senate does it I mean yeah I think I'm pretty sure Israel does have McDonald's yeah if
Israel is McDonald's just I'm telling I can see it I can see it oh they sure has all so shit they use our towel records sushi restaurants also yeah um maybe maybe but I mean for one he would have to get out of us custody at that point unless he just flees well he does have his own plane he had to get it take off of that plane like meaning he has to be able to go go go go go go go go oh I can't see before he's convinced he could get no he could get the downloads hey vert you're gonna get convicted tomorrow to go out of state visit go to drussel yeah I have this I can flip out you know I've decided I want to convert to Judaism my new name is gonna be David I will be your new king I'll be the best king I'll be the best king since king David I can see it I can see it you know it's hard to can one of one of the problems with Judaism is that it's hard to convert to and you know in when it comes to Trump I think this would be like a benefit to Judaism to not have
Trump as a member think a fast check I think a fast check Jews have suffered enough right right you know it's like we had pogroms we don't need to do this to ourselves we don't need to do this oh my god just got a very generous donation here for $10 from Tulia I'm trying to read this Abdul Said El Said is playing ball rehabilitating Kamala Zoran Mamdani is playing ball in creating a police state in New York keeping IDF Jessica Tish as the police commissioner more Trojan horses it's one party the party of Israel and thanks very much for the $10 that does bring us to the end of our show thank you so much for joining us we appreciate you and your support we're here Monday through Friday and we start at 9 a.m. on Monday Wednesday Friday we go to 11 Tuesdays and Thursdays we go to 10 tomorrow's Thursday so we will be going 9 to 10 tomorrow TMI at 10 o'clock
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