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• In an epic display of nerve, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu insulted New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani—head of the host city of the UN—in a wild address to the United Nations General Assembly that saw many delegates walk out before it even began. Netanyahu is the subject of an International Criminal Court arrest warrant alleging war crimes and crimes against humanity for Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
• Aramco, Saudi Arabia’s state oil company, is responsible for more of the carbon emissions driving the escalating climate crisis than any other company in history, and the kingdom has long been a major blocker of climate action. Yet at least a dozen of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) lead authors are employed by or linked to Saudi Aramco, Saudi institutions and other oil and gas interests. One IPCC vice-chair, part of the body’s leadership group, also represents the kingdom at global climate negotiations as a government employee.
• Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi proposes reopening the strategically vital Strait of Hormuz and resuming nuclear talks with the U.S. within seven days if the Trump administration abides by the Memorandum of Understanding.
• ICE and other agencies have wasted tens of millions of dollars pursuing ill-conceived plans to rapidly increase detention capacity, and the total will likely rise due to ongoing mismanagement, congressional investigators warn. The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) documented costly problems, including nearly $3 million to erect tents at Guantanamo Bay that were never used, $20 million to maintain purchased warehouses that are now being sold without having housed a single detainee, and excessive rates paid to hold detainees at a deficient and now-shuttered Alligator Alcatraz.
• The Danish Defence Intelligence Service (DDIS) says that there is a “low but growing risk” Russia could launch a “limited” military attack against a NATO member in the coming months, saying the Kremlin appears more willing to take risks after more than four-and-a-half years of war against Ukraine.
• In Italy, Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s cabinet adopts a decree-law, rendering the wearing of burqas and niqabs in schools illegal and introducing a 30% cap on non-Italian speakers in classrooms starting next year.
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Try business like never before with ads on Apple Maps. Hello everybody. Welcome to the program with Ted Brawl and Jamal Thomas. I see Ted is in the background, but I don't know if I didn't see him talking. I see you. Yeah, sorry. I had a little glitch there where I just, you know, I was not quite there. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Keep going. Keep going. You're doing great. What we used to do with the coolest thing on fault lands, and every so often, you know. I think I used to lead on the fault lands thing, but you know, it would go back and forth with anything happening about ankle pass. But now welcome to the program. My name is Jamal Thomas. I'm with the great, the one and only of the cartoonists, the man himself Ted Brawl.
We, this is another episode of the program. We come to you Monday through Friday from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. on the normal circumstances, but on Monday was an Friday. So, you can get far more involved during that particular time period, but during 10 from 9 a.m. to 10, we do the typical show, but you can also be involved in that. So definitely put in your question, your comments. As we always point out, your memberships are deeply appreciated and necessary for the show to function the way it is. Membership lists, I don't have it at my disposal, but they can always bring that up, but it is deeply important for the show to propagate me to you in the way that it is going. Ted, I'm going to hand it over to you for the stories for today. Okay, great. So here's what we've got coming for you today in an epic display of Hutzpah is really prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu came to the city of New York.
And instead of just merely considering himself lucky, not to have been arrested and turned over to the international criminal court for that outstanding warrant for his arrest and his role in the genocide in Gaza, he decided to insult the host city mayor, New York City mayor, Zoran Mamdani. And in an insane address in front of the UN General Assembly, not a lot of people were there to watch it since most of the delegates walked out before as they usually do. And we'll get into that. The Saudi state oil company is the Rammco is literally the greatest producer of carbon emissions on the planet yet most of at least a dozen of the UN's intergovernmental panel on climate change lead authors are employed by Saudi Rammco. And that might sort of partly explain why nothing seems to get done on climate change. Iran's foreign minister, Abbas Aradji, basically use the UNGA to remind everyone that Iran is willing to reopen the straight-up for moves.
Within seven days, all they need is Iran needs is for Trump to start abiding by the memorandum of understanding ice according to the government accounting accountability office, the GAO, which is nonpartisan. And you know, basically respected by both political parties has determined that ice has wasted tens of millions of your tax dollars doing things like putting up empty tents at Guantanamo that were never used. The Danish intelligence services claims that there is a low but growing risk that Russia could launch a limited military attack against a NATO member in the coming months. So I wouldn't say be very afraid. I'd be be very slightly maybe afraid, probably not. In Italy, Prime Minister Georgie Malone's cabinet has adopted a law that bends the wearing of burkas and kneecobs in public schools and slaps a 30% cap on the number of non-atallian speakers who can be in any single classroom that begins in the next school year.
And that's what we've really seen to get. But did she put a cap on the number of non-atallian speakers that can be in any one classroom? Correct. Interesting. Okay. It is interesting. And so we can take these in any order we want. Maybe we should do the Italy story because it is an interesting cultural story. If you want to do that. Yeah, let's start there. That's fascinating. Now why is she doing this? I don't know what she's doing. She's a right wing and she's a nationalist and a nativist. And so this is partly, obviously, this is political and it's playing to her base. But it's smart in that as a parent or anybody who can imagine being a parent, you know, you think of a classroom. Let's say we're 40% of the people don't speak the native language of the country that they're in. You know, you could imagine that that would really hold back the other students, right? Or at least it would feel like that.
That's a problem we're having here. Just here in Calisbo, we got a bunch of Ukrainian refugees who don't speak English. At least they didn't live first guy here. And so they were, and it's not New York City or Los Angeles where they're diverse and they have the ability to have special ESL programs that can, you know, found within that many migrants. And to see, this is the argument that I used to make. And Americans never really took my argument as, they took it as more nativist when it wasn't that way it was more nuanced. If you're in a country that can absorb them in immigrants, no wish. If you're in a country that can't absorb them in immigrants, you got problems. That's not me being, you know, that's just, that's just true. That's reality. That's just reality. And so when you're getting some of those European countries that were like failed to the brunt and there were so many immigrants and the country couldn't necessarily deal with them. So you had areas of just impoverished parts of the community where immigrants were. And it was poor because they couldn't really speak the language.
It was very difficult for them to get jobs and the state wasn't prepared to deal with that flow of immigration. Okay, then I'm not wrong. That's a state that has taken in so many that has damaged itself in the process of taking them in again because it couldn't absorb that many immigrants. Yes, it is. I can't believe that there are that many immigrants that are like, 40% of people in the class or 50% of the people in the class don't speak Italian. That's amazing. Well, people, you know, when people, look, this, we saw this history here in the United States, right, where the Lower East Side of Manhattan 120 years ago was, you know, full of Italians and Jewish immigrants, many of them in Germans, Irish, many of whom didn't speak English, right? And they all, you know, migrants tend to move to the same place. They, you know, they hear like, oh, you know, Bob's over here. You know, he says it's good. He got a job. He can get me a job with his, with his bud. I'll go there too. And the next thing you know that area.
So there's concentrations. I mean, if you had, you know, socialist planning, central planning, you know, you could obviously say, look, Calisbell, Montana, can't handle this. Let's send these people to, you know, a big city where they have good, you know, English is second language programs or in this case, Italian is second language programs. And, you know, have them. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Culturistas, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Okay, we've been talking about QB Mail for a minute now, Bob. And wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff. I guess in the street going, I love QB. And if you're thinking, wait, what is QB? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Well, the answer? Egg yolks. QB is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it. People who really love food and flavor use it.
Whatever you're eating, QB hit. So if you haven't tried QB yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand QB, the original Japanese mayonnaise. You can have them learn English as quickly as possible so they can get up to speed. That's just obviously, you know, but that's not what we don't have that. So ridiculous situation where Ukrainians are hanging out with the bears and the moose in Montana. I mean, it is kind of or like when the Hamam ended up in Minnesota. It's just it's it's really weird like where I grew up in Dayton, Ohio, we had a massive influx of South Vietnamese refugees at the end of the Vietnam war. Yeah, you know, we were very welcoming to them and it ended up working out great because it actually created some, you know, cultural and and culinary diversity in a much needed way. And Daytonians are sort of temperamentally suited to welcome to being welcoming people. But the point is it was still like a weird adjustment because you're like the only reason they ended up in Dayton is because there was a big air force base there.
So literally they climbed on the plane. The plane took off. Everybody didn't fall off the plane and ended up in Dayton. So it's just it's it's no one with no way to win a real. So I think the brilliance thing here is I think most people can kind of see, you know, that Maroni has a point, right? Like, you know, like Maloney, if you have like, you know, a classroom with 35% of the students are, you know, don't speak Italian. I mean, how are you going to teach the everybody else math and social studies? It's hard. I don't know how you teach anybody. I've only seen this once when I was in my Spanish class and one of there was a woman who was in the class, she was an immigrant. She didn't speak English. She only spoke Spanish. Okay, I don't know how that works. Like in barely were Spanish class, right? Because of the Spanish class, we're teaching formal Spanish. And she's she understands Spanish. She speaks it normally.
And so for her, it was almost like a silly. She's a big castilian. She spoke. Yeah. Yeah, it was very weird, but she didn't really speak English. She was sexy as all hell. And she was sweet. She's that assumption sweet. It's one kid that one kid can be is basically zoning out, but like, look, they can stay after school. They can get special attention. But, you know, my mom was a teacher. Her class standard class size in the United States is like typically 25 to 30, right? Sometimes less, sometimes more. But, you know, she had, if she had, there was a tipping point for her in her French class. Like if there was more than two kids or three kids in a class who were really just for whatever reason, not able to keep up, the whole class was fucked up. And I mean, it's just because you know, she'd end up spending half her time on these two or three or four wise kids. And then, you know, everybody, she tried to put everyone else on autopilot, but she didn't have a co-teacher, right? Co-teacher's have become more common.
So it's like, it just becomes chaos. I guess, I mean, of course, my question for Prime Minister Maloney would be, well, what do you do if like all the classrooms in a city end up having more than 30%. Maybe with 30% seems like a low, I hate to say this. It's kind of a high number of kids to, I mean, they should just have Italian as a second language classes. And they should have a separate program for these kids. They should just deport them. They should separate. I knew you were going to spend that. Now, seriously, why is it the responsibility of Europe to absorb millions and millions of people when they are facing an economic collapse right now brought about by a war that they started in Ukraine? Nobody said it was their responsibility. No, I understand that. But, no, I get it. But I mean, that's that's the argument that a lot of people have. One of the reasons that she's in power is because a lot of Italian citizens are annoyed by all this. Of course, I mean, that was the promise of Brexit too. We're going to have the shengen zone where we're going to get the children of our borders.
It's just as bad now if not worse than what it was back then. At least the Italians are making an effort to Greece, the Greeks. They're actually ramming my reboots to the Turks, keep sending over. Accidentally. There's only so many resources that are available. There's only so much population can do and should be expected to do. At the end of the day, no one has a right to immigrate to someone else's home. Okay, but like, okay, we can end up having that conversation every time we talk about migrant issues. And maybe that's appropriate. But I mean, I do think what is interesting here is it's like, you know, it's nativism that has a common sense appeal. And I think, you know, that's maybe, well, something that Donald Trump didn't do. You know what I mean? Like Donald Trump, like, oh, I'm just going to send ice goons out to the, you know, all to the hinterlands hang out in front of Mexican restaurants, shoot anyone who looks brown and call it a day.
Right. I mean, there's no, there's literally no plan. There's no, there's no strategy. There's no strategy in anything that the Trump administration does about anything, right, about war and peace about anything. It's like, we're just going to wing it. You know, the Italian, the Italian thing, it definitely has shadows of the ban in in France of the heat job band, right? And the white cops were running in the beaches, snatching heat jobs off of people. Now, as a French citizen, both American and French, you know, I'm torn about these kind of stories because like, okay, so what one thing about French culture and I think Italian culture is very similar. Most European countries have this. It's like, they're assimilationist, right? It's kind of like you, you want to be living in Italy or France, then you've got to do everything you can to become Italian or French, not just in name, but in call. For example, when my ex wife, I married her, she was entitled to become a French citizen. She had to change when she was naturalized.
She had to choose a French sounding name. Now, she doesn't have like a crazy, like non, her name is not crazy non French. She had to not hide you in order to become a French citizen. She didn't have to go to an American court, but she had it's sort of like getting like if you're a Catholic and you get confirmed, you choose a confirmation name. Or I think a Jews do this with barmasa as I could be wrong, but the point is you it's sort of a ceremonial thing, but on her pass on her French passport, assuming she still has it, it says the French name. Because if like you're not supposed to have a name like Fatima or something, you know, you're if you're French because you know, French has that nobody goes to mass, but they have a Catholic culture. So it was to be clear. So if I was born in France, my mom could name it tomorrow, Thomas. She had to name me something. No, and they would probably, they would probably choose something that starts with a J. Like so you might be Joseph or something like that.
See if that's some authoritarian shit. I think it's just not in the trance. No. This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East. That's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culture East. That's Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Okay, we've been talking about Cupid male for a minute now, Bowen. Wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff. We're stopping us in the street going, I love Cupid. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Cupid? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Well, the answer? Egg yolks. Cupid is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Cupid. So if you haven't tried Cupid yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about.
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So she had to take classes and stuff. So the point is that like there's all sorts of, you know, there's, there's requirements here, right? And so, I mean, look, I agree that the heat to me, just, you know, in my heart of hearts, the heat job and does not seem like a French thing. It seems, but on the other hand, culture's change, right? Countries change, cultures change. And they should change. And, you know, France doesn't look the same as it did 2000 years ago or 1500 years ago or 1000 years ago. In fact, French isn't the same. So it's like, it's this whole weird thing where like they, they try to like keep things frozen in time, but they can't and they try to modernize and, you know, I mean France is a weird country, right? They have a legal body that determines what words are officially French. Right. The Academy of France says. Right?
So I remember when the computer, when the personal computer came out and there's a lot of debate within the Academy of France says about what they would call it. And they, they, they, they came up with this word, the Eldinateau. Henceforth, the computer will be called the Eldinateau. What does that mean? It does mean computer. I mean, it's sort of like calculating instrument is basically what it means. Okay. Yeah. Look, I guess I don't. I'm saying this is an American because I'm an American, right? That stuff seems outrageous. Like, like, look, man, and maybe you see your own culture in the comparisons with other people's culture. Yeah. We, my mom named me Jamal. Jamal is Muslim name. Right. When I went to Israel, the first thing was like, why are you named Jamal? Why do you have this Muslim name? Because that's what my mom gave me. Yeah. Yeah. It was a mom, a mom gave me. But as you pointed out in France, it would be a French name. And if you're Israeli, you could still call yourself Jamaril, right? Like you could tell all your friends I'm Jamaril.
You know, you, but if you were stopped by the police, for example, you would have to be French name. You'd have to use your French name, yeah. That's, that's, that's blows my mind. In Italy, the hijab thing too, as an American, it's like you worship, who you worship. What do I care? Right. If your religion has you wearing a hijab, then you wear a hijab. And I know people say, well, that's oppression, that's blah, blah, blah. Look, I can make a argument that people who are religious are being oppressed. Right. You were taught this as a child. You were raised in this religion as a child. And you, for the most part, have just been programmed to behave in this particular way. Okay, what they don't take issue with Christians or Muslims or whatever, but they take issue with Muslims wearing these religious instruments. I find that amazing. Like what is the insecurity in them where they see some idea in a hijab and they're like, oh my God. Is it, well, I think it's because to a certain degree, the French view themselves as homogenous, which is hilarious,
because both France and Italy and Germany, these were all empires. Right. These were countries carved from a bunch of small city states that had separate languages, different ways of dressing, different cultures. They were all distinct. I mean, France has languages that are not even part of the front of the Indo-European language group. Right. Like Bask. And it's like the, it's, but the French government in the past tried to suppress those languages and even banned them. My mom spoke Breton. She was told, and you know, in her, in her class, you were beaten if you overheard speaking to another kid. So it was not permitted. And the young people in the last 30, 40 years have had a revival of Breton nationalism. And they, you know, they even have, like, now the signs of the street signs are both in Breton and in French and stuff. So it's changed. But the point is, it's complicated. And I guess the argument, your argument resonates with me like, hey, you wear what you want to wear, whatever, you be you.
I personally think that he job is stupid, but you do you. Yeah. You know, I'm not wearing it. I don't have to. And then like on the other hand, the French are like, listen, this is our fucking country, our rules. And we, and we think it's creepy. And we don't want anyone wearing hijab. Yeah, but then they shouldn't make this argument that they're a liberal country. Many of you can't do both. They can't make this argument. Well, they think they think that the hijab rule is, is, is, is liberal. They think that the hijab is impressive and, and, and, and, and sexist. But if that's true, then all religions are impressive. Well, that, there's a strong point to be made there. And France is a secular, and Italy are secular states, right? Well, I have a question for you, Ted, is this, was this blowback because of that massacre that happened at the, at that concert and then Charlie Hebdo? Is that, is this where the soul came from? No, no, that, it pre, the, it predates that. Charlie Hebdo thing was about 15 years ago. Also, remember, there's that big, that big death metal concert where those Islamists shot the place up and killed a lot of 50 or 60 people.
The anti hijab rule kind of like goes back a little further than that. So, I mean, there's, like, France has had a, has had a, has had a problem with Islamic terrorism going back at least to the 80s. They took all the trash cans off the streets because in Paris, because they were, you know, blowing up all the time. And it was a long bonus though. Like she's doing this in schools. Right. I mean, the hijab thing is not just in general. This is for kids. It's specific to schools, right. It's not to the street. It's like you can slow walk the streets of Venice in hijab. Look at the heat. Look at the way and Italian. And obviously you and I both know the history of Italy. There's a, there's a major muscle influence in places like Sicily, right? So, I mean, it's a, it's a crossroad. It's not like Islam is a foreign thing to Italy, right? You know what I mean? Why are you doing this now? That's an interesting question. She didn't do this 10 years ago. I mean, she wasn't in power. 10 years ago, but this is the place now. Why now?
Well, that's, that's an, that we, I think that's an internal Italian politics question. By the way, if you're just joining us, this is Friday. So we're here for full two hours. We're going all the way. So another hour and a half plus left. I don't like this. Right. I don't think it's sort of like that. Like, oh, that's interesting. I know, but, uh, right? That's what we're doing now. I've traveled to Muslim countries, like extensively, whether it be Egypt, Malaysia, um, Jordan. Um, I don't, I don't think issue with the heat. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Culturistas, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Okay. We've been talking about Cupid male for a minute now, Bowen. Wow. The feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love Cupid. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Cupid? Uh, do you not have the internet?
It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Well, the answer? Egg yolks. Cupid is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Cupid hit. So if you haven't tried Cupid yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. If you understand, Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. It's just no, it's just a religious stuff. It's just, it's their thing. Yeah, like you. It's not like I feel oppressed wearing this. That's not the way they look at it. The way they see it anymore. Then a Christian looks at themselves. What's some do? It's burning down with the religious stuff. I mean, certainly. Look, like in Afghanistan, there's the and other and like Saudi Arabia, they have the ministry for the promotion of virtue and the prevention of vice who drive around.
And it's like, it's like the name of a comic book or something. The promotion of virtue. I love it. It's a promotion of virtue and prevention of vice. Who can argue with that? And they can they drive around. And if they see your little too much skin and sticking out of your ankle, right? You might get a beat down with a rubber hose. I'm not even kidding. They come sexy. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't like the burqa either. I don't even like the rindas. Like I did. Like you're talking to somebody. You only see in their eyes. You can't. It's almost like they're a non person. They're literally dressed like ghosts. Yeah. It's like it's like we don't exist for the virtue of women. So we don't like that. I both know also in Muslim countries, like the street life doesn't have a lot of women except very early in the morning. And when like that's when that's the that's the lady time, right? They get up at five. Go do their whatever they got to do. They got to be back.
Yeah. Yeah. And then it's like middle of the day. It's you just see it's like a world a world of men and boys. Again, I just want to make a rick. I don't like this because I don't like the religious stuff. But it's not my business. It's their country, right? Like if I'm in it. That's what the Italians would probably say. It's like, well, it's our country. And this is our world. Yeah, but when I go to a Muslim country, they're not telling me I need to wear a, you know, dashinky or something. Which is the only one if you go to a Muslim country, you know, it's definitely frowned upon to wear even for a guy to wear like a tight t-shirt. Like like say, he would not be. It's so funny, but he would not be really welcomed in Afghanistan dressing the way he does. It would be like you need to have some you can't have superform fitting clothes. You're supposed to really your your your sleeves are supposed to go down to your wrists. Well, I wasn't a West Bank. They accepted he's an American. West Bank is far more liberal than like Afghanistan. They were screaming at a woman for wearing that wearing a hijab.
Meaning the woman who I was with when I was walking through Bethlehem. One of the guys thought screaming at her for not wearing a hijab. I mean, she goes over and attacks. Yeah, she's just a, yeah, she's just a scarf will do it, right? A scarf is the she's wearing a scarf. Oh, that's what I'm saying. Like this is not like things of radical. And they just accepted he's an American when I was an hijab and I was wearing had tattoos and everything else. Again, it was kind of accepted. He's an American. Yeah, yeah. No Americans definitely. I mean, of course it's like, oh, the foreigner. I mean, you know, like in Afghanistan, a woman definitely, you know, foreign women don't have to wear burkas. I mean, they all they just need a scarf and they're good. But it's accepted, which is the point that I'm trying to make for the Italians. How on earth are they calling themselves a liberal government? Like meaning you could say what it's like to run to England. I remember what you do, but that's also a diminishment of the religious tradition that they bring the people in. That's that liberalism is something else. Just a little bit of promotion here.
If you stick around till 11 o'clock, Scott Stanislaus and I are doing DMZ America. We do that every Friday at 11 and we'll be talking about. The question is, can editorial cartooning be saved or salvaged because it's pretty much dead. So that will be the very depressing topic. Depressing for me is not basically pardon. AI is this. No, not really. AI is just like the maybe the last needle, the last nail in the coffin. But you know, it's it's been we've been we've been fired over and over and over by newspapers and magazines. And nobody's replacing us. There's just not hiring anyone new. I mean the real. In my view, the real fault is websites like you know CNN.com or slate or or you know, et cetera, et cetera. They don't hire any cartoonists. These these are the new news outlets, right? Like you know the hill or whatever they should have a lot of cartoons and they don't.
And so it's like there's just nobody's hiring cartoons. And that's so I mean it's it's shocking. Scott and I saw a picture of the most recent association of American editorial cartoonists convention, which was just held in Sacramento a week ago. And there were it basically looked like an old folks home. Like I would be the youngest person in that room. You know, it's like all all gray hair, canes, walkers. And it's I mean it's it's fucking sad. And so I asked AI speaking of AI. Are there any working editorial cartoonists in the United States under the age of 55? And the answer is no. Wow. So like that's so. So so yeah, so the generation. So it's just completely over. And I mean, even if it were to resume now, Gen X and the millennials have never had a real full-time political cartoonist at all. So it would have to start with Gen Z or I guess they could hire older people.
But the point is that it's like two generations have now been lost. I mean, Scott has like the best story about this where he'll give a talk at a college and college students who like editorial cartoons will say, Oh, we're I've never seen this format before. Where could I find these? And I used to do newspapers and write like news papers. People just find in his own. And like seriously, you could have them at daily beast or whatever and they used to sometimes they did and they did well. But editors just killed them. They just, you know, they just don't want. They don't want they don't want a political cartoon. They just don't. So, you know, or they don't want professional political cartoon. Right? Like they're totally, I mean, a meme is a political cartoon. I mean, what is a cartoon? It's words plus picture. But, you know, the point is that's just someone conveying that out individually.
But a professional, you know, in any occupation, there's a difference between a street busker and a professional musician who spends their entire life just working on music. There's a difference. And, you know, I think they're both important. And, but if you don't have. So we'll be talking about that. He's a dime breed. There is a video from Tucker Carlson. And maybe we could play this in the Q&A where it tells. Did you see the thing with him and talking about Trump, where he says he had a conversation with Trump privately about going to war and Iran. And how Trump was like, what everybody dies. So what does it matter? Yeah, that was so dark. And he said, I have kids. And he says, what about your kids? And this is the argument you make, Robbie. It's like, when you have kids, look like you want to save the world for those children. And Trump was like, ah. Yeah, you know what, that doesn't matter. It's like, what? Well, we could play it. This is Matt Rogers from Los Cultures. He's this with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
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No, no, I put the clip in the. Okay, Robbie, would you be so kind? It's very large. I mean, Tucker, I think Tucker is being honest. I don't think Tucker is lying about it. Tucker apparently was like given Huckabee. Those are the interview that Huckabee did with Tucker, what Tucker just ran and moved the rails about. Like, dude, Nenya, who's like from Europe? What are you talking about? It's true, like, that he's from Palestine. No. And like, he just ate him a lab in that interview, right? And he said, Trump was giving him shit about it. Yeah. And that's when Tucker was kind of bringing up like, dude, you have an envoy to this country. He says, I would know because I was the son of an envoy. They're responsibilities. And he's talking about Israel taking over all of the Middle East including Saudi Arabia and many other countries that are allowed with the US. Why is your envoy saying this? It was that type of conversation, right? I put the clip up. Yeah, let's have it. Let me go ahead and drop us down here real quick. Okay. Let me take us out.
And once again, I'm in an unusual position because I talked to Trump. But you've quoted him as waving off the wrist by saying, it'll all be fine. Which could you want to know what he said? Go tell you exactly what he said. And I haven't said this, but I'm just going to tell you. Sure. And this is a fact. And I could look at my calendar, but it was in, it was, I had flown back from Tel Aviv from Bengarein Airport after seeing the ambassador and two days later, it was in the oval with Trump alone. And he was annoyed that I had given Huckabee a hard time with this whole conversation about Huckabee. And I said, here, your US, as the son of an ambassador, I know what the job entails. And your ambassador, your representative to this nation just called for rearranging the Middle East and allowing Israel to take parts of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria. Like this is a diplomatic incident. And so we had this whole conversation about this. But then I said, this war is not about Iran's nuclear program, which you told me in the world that you eliminated back in last summer in June. Yeah. This war is being pushed by Israel with three aims.
One, its own regional and Germany take Iran off the map. You can't, they don't have freedom of movement as long as Iran is a regional power. Two, diminishing the power of the GCC, the six Gulf states, which are arrival to Israel and are becoming this kind of Switzerland of the Middle East. And that's bad for Israeli interests. And three, getting the US out of the Middle East because we can strain their ambitions, getting our bases out, destroying our bases. Israel wants our bases out of the Middle East. I said this to Trump, to his face in the Oval Office days before the war began. And he looked at me and said, yes, you're right. But in the end, we all die anyway. So it doesn't matter. That's exactly what he said. In the end, we all die anyway. And I said to him, shocked. But what about our kids and our grandkids in like our country? And he goes, ah. That's that's a verb. I don't know. He didn't understand that's a verbatim exchange. And I said, and it was God watches.
I said that. And I think it was, I thought it was true then. And I think it's been proved. Now, the goal was to get the US out to diminish the GCC and obviously to take a run off the map and sink it into permanent internal strife into civil war, sectarian strife. And he said, it doesn't matter because in the end, we're all dead anyway. And I was shocked by that because it's nihilism. And that's the last thing any leader should display or any person should display. It does matter. Who lives or dies does matter. The future does matter. I. Yeah. Yeah. That's. That's. I mean, I mean, it's terrifying because this reminds me. I mean, on one hand, I'm wondering if he's just sort of channeling his inner Friedman, right? The great Chicago economist who said, you know, well, you know, in the long run, we're all dead anyway. But he wasn't saying it in a nihilistic way. He was joking about the long run idea.
But it reminds me of Hitler and the bunker, right? I mean, you know, he was raging and he has said that he said this in speeches that before he ended up down there under, you know, a few hundred yards under Berlin. You know, if if Germany gets destroyed and if all Germans die so be it, they deserve it in the giant. Class of civilizations, it would mean that they weren't strong enough. They didn't, they were defeated and destroyed because they, you know, it's, it's basically international military Darwinism at work. And that's. I mean, I don't even think you have to have kids to care about the future. You know, I mean, half of Americans never have kids, right? I think, you know, half of the, but that's not what I'm saying. I think, you know, half of the, but those half who don't have kids, you know, they're going to run out and pull someone else's kid out and maybe risk their own life from having from before rather than let them hit it by a car.
Right? I mean, they, you know, they, they become teachers. They become nurses. They, you know, they, they join caring professions. I mean, it's, but he's the president of a country and his, he, it's supposed to be a legacy thing. Even if it's just about your ego, you should want to be like that Chinese emperor who like, you know, everybody 400 years later says, Oh, thank God for him. He started building that great wall. And now, because of him and he's, you know, blessed his memory, we, we've now keep the man choose out and we're safe. Right? Like the barbarian words are at bay. I mean, that's what you should want. You know, maybe you want your face on a coin, whatever. But I, I mean, for a president who's concerned, obviously concerned about his mortality, you know, wants to be on currency, wants to set wants to change the skyline of Washington, DC to reflect so that we remember him after he's gone.
It's, it's, it's shocking to hear this. Like, well, you know, it doesn't really matter routine. I mean, it might explain his, you know, our attitude toward climate change and so on. But, yeah, it's bleak. He's a narcissist and he only cares about himself. For him and he would screen loudly about the print that he got despite the fact that he would go murder a bunch of people around the world. This is, you know, bone spurs guy. I mean, it's shocking on a few counts. It's not that a shocking that I'm shocked to hear Trump say it. Again, I think he's a psychopath and I think his narcissist and only cares about himself. There's that part. But the other part is it's not about what he, what he should because should don't really exist. The reality of it is President Trump has a philosophical ethical and legal responsibility to the United States government. He took an oath. Right. He's like, like, Rando guy. He wasn't drafted. He wanted the job. He wanted the job. He worked hard to get it.
Yeah. And took out 30 other, 20 other Republicans in order to get to that particular spot. And then he took an oath of office that he would defend this country from enemies internal or external domestic or form that was his oath. Right. Every person who's a Congress takes that oath, including the president of the United States. He has a philosophical responsibility to ensure the well being and health and the prosperity and the propagation of this country when he leaves. And he failed that. I would go further. This is not in the oath, but I would go further that when you're the president of a very powerful country, you also have a global responsibility to try to keep the, you know, as much of the world safe and prosperous as possible. Not at the expense of your own country, but you certainly not be doing harm to its environment. You shouldn't be killing people overseas gratuitously. You know, I think you have you have that ethical responsibility. I think we the American people are looked at by people overseas and you know, they wonder like why we don't hold our political leaders to account.
So that you know, because it's kind of like your country's fucking with us. We know it's not you, Jamar, it's not you, Ted personally. But how come you guys aren't out in the streets? How come you guys aren't breaking things? You know, we would how come maybe they would we don't have a good answer. What we love our monsters. Like it's just that our monsters are our monsters. Their monsters are some of worse. And as we've always looked at it, we've never heard those leaders accountable. Nixim might have been the only one. When George Bush goes gets many people killed and propagates the creation of ISIS and all this other stuff as it was rummaging through the Middle East murdering and putting people in cages to send them on fire. Okay, that was us going into Iraq and Afghanistan uncoorking that particular bottle. The guy who was leading Al-Qaeda in Syria is now those choppy heads and just had a video with I think it was either education minister or media minister. I think it which one where there's an old picture of that guy standing there with a bunch of heads laying on the ground that he or somebody with an head of chopped up.
That's the guy who put an up out in Syria, right? Like the world looks at that. And to your point is like how are you all okay with this? And yet we are okay with it because we're okay with our monsters. George Bush is not going to get prosecuted. He's not that finger painting right now. Nancy Pelosi is an open way to ignore you flying about it. Nancy Pelosi did do squat. And when Obama got in, not only did he not go out to George Bush, Obama continued the war with the quote surge. And with the drone wars, they were killing 70 to 80% of it. Like none of these people are being held accountable. George Bush and the problem, Joe Biden propagation of the Ukraine war. Okay, again, knocking over the government of Ukraine under Obama and Joe Biden continue to flame those flames to the point where you have two million dead Ukrainians or for that matter hundreds of thousands of dead Russians. And the war continues like it doesn't stop Donald Trump is just the latest into this. And honestly, the most incompetent because he couldn't even come over to real reason to attack Iran in a way that anybody really cared about.
And even with the Tucker thing, Tucker is pointing out. Look, he knew that this was a lie. It was an obvious lie. As you pointed out, many of us go to Trump in the reporting saying, Hey, I want to go attack Iran and Donald Trump effectively does it at the behest of a foreign leader. Regardless of what that's policy of now, which it has been US policy for decades, even going back to George Bush. It's the point that Trump did at the behest of a foreign leader when other presidents had since enough, even though they may have won it to do not do it. Right. No consequences. We've got it by the way. It's now that you're bringing this up. We've got to talk about Netanyahu's speech. Yes. Before we do that, let's get through some questions. Frazmatas has a question for me. Am I working on any books? Yeah. I'm working on a cartoon collection about this exact topic imperialism, neocolonialism, militarism, American exceptionalism, many isms. So that's going to be out probably in late October early November. It's almost I'm, you know, it's the first draft is done. It's just a cartoon collection, but I went back all the way to it's kind of frightening when you go back to my early work all the way back to the early 90s.
You see so many of the same themes like, you know, nothing really ever changes. President after president party after party war after war. It's always the same shit. So that's that's kind of like the story that's being told here. See the little talk of it because it's oh yeah, it's oh yeah. It's, Frazmatas says it's a keens not Milton Friedman to macroecon joke, not a microecon joke. Okay. Thank you for that correction, Fraz. Let's see. Melis Morgan, Americans are trained to believe what that they are better off than everyone else. So why would they rebel? To fair point although, when they travel overseas and they get sick in the end of the hospital, they learn that we're not better off than everyone else. Uncle, Marco went to Canada when he used to drive the bus. In fact, he may be watching. Well, he used to watch the other show. McCord Thomas, when he drove the bus in Canada, he got sick because my uncle didn't like to tell people that he felt bad. And so we got to get there. Yeah, to get something but they did the surgery sent it back home. No bill.
Yeah, that's that's how it is in most of the civilized world, which is to say the United States is not in the civilized world. Okay, so let's get into Netanyahu. So Netanyahu shows up at the UN General Assembly. He kept tweeting out on his way that he was coming to fight for Israel or to attack for Israel. Does he even know what the United Nations is? It's supposed to be an effort where problems are resolved and people try to achieve peace. It's not really like attacking is not really supposed to be something that happens at the UN. But anyway, not only many people on stage. So that's that speech. The speech was even by Netanyahu's standards completely outrageous. I mean, he was going on and on about like we're no like Britain. And my favorite part was he said Britain and France have the nerve to criticize us for colonial colonialism.
They're the countries that invented the idea of the concept of colonialism, which is true sort of except that don't forget the Dutch and the Belgians. But I'm like, okay, but dude, we all know the history of the ball for declaration, right? I mean, specifically don't be insulting the UK. There'd be no Israel if not for the UK. The UK created the state of Israel as a settler colonial project as we were talking to Ben Moser on Tuesday, right? Right here on this show. It's like this. I mean, it's just it's like they invented it. Yes, they did. And you're one of their leftover projects. And by the way, given over territory that didn't belong to break. Oh, it's very easy to give away things that don't belong to you, right? Yeah, it's like I am going to officially award. This is Matt Rogers from Los Cultures. This with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Cultures. This is Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
Okay, we've been talking about QB mail for a minute now, bow and wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of you all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love QB. And if you're thinking, wait, what is QB? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mail? Well, the answer? Egg yolks. Cupid is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles. Chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, QB hit. So if you haven't tried QB yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand QB, the original Japanese mayonnaise. Rubric is the security and AI operations company built for what happens after an attack hits, not just the moments before.
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Well, not to, I guess being asked to share. That's in New York, West Virginia. That's how Western Virginia is our man's ancestors are from outside of Cheat Mountain. So we got the paperwork. So that's all I would need. So if someone's living there just go in a victim, say this, this name is pumice to me. Or just take 60 years ago, you can have 22% of your land. And I will move in and take over the other 78%. No one was really ever there before. It's like a land without a place for a land without a land without a Robbie for a people for a Robbie without a land. My wife and I ended up on Israel because we were moving through the area when we were traveling. And she had never been. And we went to the Holocaust Museum. We did all of this stuff. I was being a bit of an asshole because I didn't want to be there. There's that.
And when I remember when we were leaving, she said, she was like, I keep thinking who was here before they got here. And I was like, exactly. A lot of fucking people. Yeah, because people were, you know, it's like we are there. It's like people are walking around with guns. People will be on buses or they will be at a bar eating a falafel and have the gun on the back. And she was like, why do they have all these weapons? And then it kind of clicked her like, I see. Like it did only like connect with her on like they are here now. And yet they have all these guns. And it's like, yeah, because they have to put down the actual population that was here before they got here. And they still have to because yeah, you live in, look, when you, when you steal other people's land. And you don't have the, the, you know, if you're not thorough like the Americans were and kill all of the locals, then you're going to live in constant insecurity.
Right. I mean, they're going to constantly be looking for their chance to get you. You know, they're resentful and hateful and they wanted, you know, they're going to do that. Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, you know, we talked about him a little bit on Tuesday. But he's an interesting figure. You know, when he, when he first came up, he knows it as, as Ben mentioned, the, you know, on Tuesday, he never visited the Holy Land. Right. And this was all theory. Basically, it was like writing in central Europe. You know, it's hard, it's hard to be Jewish. We have programs to deal with. You know, maybe we should just up and go and go to our ancestral home land. And, and he, setting aside the fact that he was wacky and was willing to do it like in Africa and all sorts of places. He, you know, he never the less was able to be reasoned with. And there was, there, he received letters from people who had visited or were living in places like Jerusalem.
And they were like, listen, you have to understand there's a population here. They're not animals. They're not monkeys. Let's literally, I was literally a quote, right? Like they're, they're, these are human beings. They have cities, they have cultures, they have bizarre, they have property, they have farms. This is a fully realized inhabited place. You know, it's not empty. It's not a bear. It's not Antarctica. So like you, you're, you're, your people are going to be coming in here. And there's going to be resistance and resentment. And so, you know, her soul's heard that. And his first edit was when you guys go, you have to do everything on the up and up. You have to pay fair market value. You have to just buy things that are for sale and pay what the asking price and, and just do everything. So you're just showing up and you're doing everything legally. And that's, that's Zionism 1.0. And it, you know, there weren't really any significant violent clashes at all during that period. Because they would just slowly move it in buying a property that's correct.
And so, and so like a lot of Zionists point to that and they kind of pretend like history ends at Zionism 1.0. Herzl died pretty young. He, I think I forget if he got like TB or pneumonia, but he, but he was, he, he was like 40 or something when he died. And when he died, a new, more militant cadre of, of Zionists took over. And they kind of like swept aside all that. But right before he died, Herzl expressed publicly, went to the Zionist Congress and expressed his dismay at some of the agreements. And some of the aggressive tactics that were being used. And he was like, this isn't going to work. You, you, you can't do it the way you're doing it by force and by, and by bullying and everything. Herzl died kind of being ignored by the movement that he himself found it, which is kind of fascinating. Because I mean, in other words, every, a lot of people could see the present situation.
And it's like, oh, if you go this route, eventually this is what's going to happen. And here in 2026, here we are. I mean, it's they were right. It was into them incredibly predictable. But that's the route. If they would have stopped, they would have gotten what they wanted. Meaning, before getting to this particular point, despite the unfairness of it and all, they still could made a deal with Israel, kept Israel. And have some other state of the Palestine that was effectively cut in half on some level. But they would have maintained the visual meaning. It could have worked despite the violence and despite the aggression. But the rub is the logic of it is the thing that continues on. Meaning, they couldn't change their mindset. I mean, how does that look though? I mean, I mean, do you mean like after 1948? Because I mean, after I mean, I don't know what even with Bill Clinton, like say for example, Bill Clinton was trying to have it even an equal deal. He could have gotten that deal.
I mean, even the deal that Bill Clinton got with Bill Clinton was acting as if it was so as low. Yeah, the Oslo courts. It wasn't airfits for Bill Clinton has been putting out lies all the way through ever since. Yeah, no, it wasn't a workable state, right? I mean, it wasn't going to be, you know, there was not going to be obviously Gaza and the West Bank aren't contiguous. And there wasn't going to be a safety corridor so that there could be goods traveling back and forth. So, well, the West Bank was going to be divvied up into separate Bantu stands. There's going to be no military for this new Palestinian state. So the Israelis wanted the right to come and go as they please anytime they want. I mean, these are all like it's not it's not sovereignty deal. But it's a suit. It's a suit. Right. I mean, they were trying to do it on even exchange, meaning if they were trying to be fair, they could have gotten that deal. Bill Clinton was never fair. The US was never going to be an honest operator and trying to make an agreement. But at that point though, airfett would have taken a bad deal.
What's clear is that the Zionists never wanted to deal because they wanted to be perceived. This is part of their tactic. It's in Moser's book in greater detail than we talked about. But basically, they've always been their public posture has always been absolutely will talk to the Arabs anytime and where twice on Sunday, we will be there. But then so they want because they need to be part of their stick has to be to to maintain public support or tolerance around the world. If they have to be perceived as like lower willing to talk because if they say, oh, we're not willing to talk. This is like when he runs to but like they think it's been destroyed. We have to be willing to but then they do but they don't but they're not honest. Once they either make deals that they don't abide by like ceasefires or they make a deal and then oh, by the way, they add a bunch of conditions that no one would accept. That's what which has been clarified. Like meaning that hidden stick that was taken place in the 90s all that it's gone.
But a joke. Well, not everybody gets it. The Zionist supporters in the United States. They either don't know where they pretend they don't know. Well, they don't hear. I mean, that's the thing about political one, one second Robbie. That's the thing about political posh. If you're talking to. There are some people who are honest who have an honest conversation with you about things and try to get to solutions. We do that here every day. Right, but there's some people don't care. Meaning whatever posture at particularly take have a political objective in mind that I want to accomplish. And what I say is based upon a political objective not about the reality of events. I would argue that that's most of us. Politics and Israeli politics. I think that's the way they engage. That's the way they act. It's not about what's true. It's not about what's real. It's not about trying to find a solution. It's about something in mind that it needs to accomplish. And I need to say whatever I need to say in order to get the point of the political expedience. The accomplished objective. It's that like that. I'm not the genocide. We're the victims of genocide. Like sure you are. We were trying to stop a genocide.
Iran is going to get a nuclear bomb. We had to stop them. They're always two weeks away and always will be two weeks away from a nuclear bomb. No, no, you're good. Here's the part that you're all missing. You're going to remember. And in Zionist thought because they're claiming a promise that no longer applies to them is that they believe that they're that the borders of Israel go from the Nile River to the Euphrates. That's the border. So from from Eastern Egypt all the way to all the way to Mosul. So that entire area. And that that's the problem is that they will never honor any kind of an agreement that limits that territory ambition because they believe that land is theirs. Well, that doesn't do they believe that or do they just want it and is there a difference. Well, it depends on if you're religious. You are not. If you're a secular Jew, but you support the government, then that's really the same.
The other difference. Where is it if you're if you're a religious Jew and you believe that that rimpan promised you this. And this what you're going to have. Then as you as you chosen people that is your promised land that these people are interlopers. These are the chosen of ish mail. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like it's not about what's true. Like when you're putting people out to talk on press, those people have objected in mind. They're not talking about reality. They're talking about what they need to get to from political experience. Yes, yes. Many on the speaking. And that's what discuss me the most about about Christian Zionists is that they believe it. They sell it to their own congregations to propagate this war. These wars regression, which are blatantly unbiblical. Those promises have those come to those come to pass through the millennium as nothing to do with this world is nothing to do with this life. But Christians, though, will bend over backwards to enable a genocide because they read something of a Bible that was funded by the moody's.
The moody's are funded by the Rothschilds. But we're all but but Robbie in the end in the log run. We're all dead anyway. Yeah, but no, but we all pay a price though because it's one day for some for the Palestinians. Well, everyone pays a price because at the end of the day, every single one of us is going to get judged. And I do not want to be here. I just don't want to be Trump when he stands in front of that throw. He has a lot to answer for. Great. Thank you very much. I got to acknowledge a great donation and we do really need an appreciate these donations. Sam Palasano, thanks for the $50. If you all were betting on the over under, do y'all think the military action in Iran will continue to $20.27? Or end after the midterms, purking orange face PS. Let's play mechaногumillion. Mecha mecha mecha. Mecha. Mecha. Mecha. Mecha. MechaKolly. Iran put out what they wanted in regards to some kind of deal and our Gachi apparently was staying
in the United States to see what was the response of the Trump administration in regards to the deal. The deal that they're continuously putting out with is the MOU that they want to acknowledge and own up to the MOU in addition to pulling up the US military. Yeah, it's hard for me to to believe that Trump is going to do that. It's very hard for me to see a US president accepting what is effectively a surrender document. The question here is it's about what is the landscape like after the midterms? Let's sort of enumerate. First of all, there's kind of two parts to this, at least. There's the day after the election, clearly the House of Representatives is going to be democratic. Better, I will sell my left testicle. I hope you're left testicle. I think you're right. So we go into divided government. The reason I say there's two parts is because Congress
remains this existing Congress remains in session as a lame duck session for seven weeks. And the Republicans have an agenda for those seven weeks where they're going to jam through as much shit and as much ridiculous spending on their priorities while pretending to be fiscal conservatives for everything that smacks of Democrat. For those seven weeks, they're going to go crazy. So from the around point of view, the question is what does those seven weeks look like or doesn't even matter? And then certainly the question is about 2027 under a new Congress. I mean, is for example, a new Congress going to be able to get a war power? This is Matt Rogers from Los Cultures. This is with Matt Rogers and Boan Yang. This is Boan Yang from Los Cultures. This is Matt Rogers and Boan Yang. Okay, we've been talking about Cupid male for a minute now, Bo. And wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love Cupid. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Cupid? Do you not have the internet?
It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Will the answer egg yolks? Cupid is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it. People who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Cupid. So if you haven't tried Cupid yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. The exact resolution through the Senate. I don't know the answer to that. But it's the president can be till the war. Where are we enough? Which you have to wonder. That's ridiculous. It's the purpose of it. What's the point of it? Yeah. I mean, they would have to have those super majority. So they can be the same. And I know that now back in the 70s, the Vietnam War did not end because
of a war power's act thing, right? It was the war power's act was a reaction to Vietnam. But the Vietnam War ended because Congress stopped funding the military. They just set like fuck this and they cut off that they cut the purse strings. Could that happen? You know, from Congress, I think it's not the odds are not zero, but I don't think they rise to 50% either. Yeah, I mean, I don't see Trump stopping the war even if they cut the purse. I mean, they've been I'm not sure the Democrats are against the war either. Again, again, I don't think they are either. They're the Democrats. So if you look at like Lawrence or Donald or some other like MSNBC, when you're talking about the war, they're talking about the war from the perspective of Donald Trump is failing at this war. Still bad. And Donald Trump and we don't like him and like the crisis are going high because of the war. Senator Robert the Iranians are horrible and they've been murdering their people and they're under such a gait and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, if that's true, they've been spreading terror through the Middle East. It's like you've had millions of people in the
Iran and outside of Iran come out for the funeral for comedy. If it's what they're saying is true, how do you get that much mass support for the world for the leader of the Supreme Leader? It's not since. I'm not certain Democrats are against this war. They just like the fact that Donald Trump is failing at it and that the American public is against them for in which case they lump on to it. They're still in perilous ever, but as much as the Republicans, it's not like they're not special in this. I got to be honest, I don't see how they pull out. I don't see how Donald Trump pulls out even after the midterms because for him to do that, he's going to have to pull out under a model of I'm accepting the MOU. Okay, but there's, but there aren't going to be some changing circumstances by that. Okay, so the US interest rates have now for for home mortgages that are now over 7%. The housing market is starting to crumble and we know from the recent past that
crumbling housing market can take down the entire US economy with it. Diesel prices are now so high that they're tipping into the point where it's not worth it to truckers to operate at all. Truckers strike is looming. That could, if it's successful, even if it's partially successful. You know, have a big impact. I mean, the economic situation, it's bleak, right? He's not going to be able to point to things like arising Dow Jones industrial average because it won't be true by next year. He's not going to be able to say, oh, like the poverty rate on paper is low because that won't be true either. I mean, all the major economic indicators are going to be rough and you know, there are already challenges from AI and all that. I mean, it's going to be, I think the economy is going to be in a world of fucking pain by like February, March, April and you know, the straightforward moose is, you know, still largely jammed up. The Houties have the Gulf of A and all locked up.
That pipeline is, you know, going to be re-blown up the second that the Saudis re-outed. Yeah, I mean, it's like, hey guys, it's like, hi, we're still here. The Houties are only advancing further. I mean, if I'm looking at that board of risk, you know, if I'm Republican, I do not look like what I'm seeing. So the question is like, by April, you know, is this a project, will Trump have any choice other than to make something that looks like peace? In other words, surrender. Who commits ground troops? I have every confidence in that. I think what he's going to do is beginning of the end for the US then. Well, I've asked him. He's been almost set that. I always said that. When we invaded Iraq, I said, well, we can invade Iraq, but we can't invade Iraq ever. Well, no one ever says it's going to be successful. But what he's going to do is, these people are holding a gun to the head of the American economy, things are in collapse.
This is an essential threat. They don't need a nuclear bomb if they could turn off the economy. We have to take the street of war moves. We cannot leave Iran because there's no way he's going to, I can't see the public accepting it. I don't think so either. I think it's over 80 percent underwater. You got like 70 percent. And the war is only got like a 25 percent approval rating. Yeah. I mean, nobody's in favor of the, you have, I mean, George W. Bush, you know, spent the better part of well over a year, ginning up the case to invade Iraq. On the day that we invaded Iraq, I think it was March 28, 2003, if memory serves, the approval rating for that war was like 90 percent or 88 percent. The million people were, if they're all in, if you're all right, then what's going to happen is that the option of using nukes is a very real possibility because he has he talked about the example. You know, when do nations use nuclear weapons? The Russians made this very clear.
If the existence of the state is at risk, the territory integrity of the state is at risk. We're going to do it. Trump is more unhinged than that. It's a risk. True. Donald Trump started a war. And Donald Trump is a war. And he's trying to find a way to get out of it without looking like an asshole that he is. Yeah. And then he's news. Again, I don't know. Donald Trump is going to have to decide if does he want to take his medicine? Like you suggested, Mile? Or like Robbie, he's not a man who's inclined to want to take his medicine. This, this, you know, avoids that. And you point, but the new doesn't avoid that. And that's what it's the worst. Sure, because the real is, the response of a ride would be to fundamentally destroy the global economy from the same point of the oil in the noodles. If this is true, it's a hard time to talk to the audience. Yeah, but I guess my point is, it doesn't solve the issue. If the argument that the United States is making
is, well, they're, you know, holding up the global economy for a war that I started, a criminal award for a restaurant, and that's like, but they're holding up the global economy. So I had to use a new, you know, to deal with the situation. Okay, well, what do you think it's going to have to do the global economy when energy is not just held up, it just doesn't exist. Like, meaning the new doesn't solve it. Look, look, Tremor, you're not wrong. But the, but that doesn't mean, that still doesn't mean, I mean, we've already established the fact that Trump doesn't do strategy. The only thing that approximates a strategy in the Trump administration is something that someone else wrote for him, the project 2025. He doesn't have a strategy. He doesn't hire strategists. And, you know, I don't doubt that someone like JD Vance might be up to coming up with or commissioning a strategy. But Trump, he's not in charge. Trump doesn't allow that, doesn't listen to that. Trump wings it. He wings, even he wings his speeches. He wings everything, right? No, we're not. The nuclear bomb is pretty. Well, that's, but why wouldn't he, why wouldn't he wing that?
He wings everything. I mean, so the real question is in this, for this country now is, I'm sure that it is, look, I think it's in, I think it's in Trump's mind. I don't know what you think, Robbie. I think it's in the back of his mind. I think it's like, in case of emergency, I can always break, break the launch codes and do that. And like, it's, he's thinking about it. It's there. And if he just, if he feels cornered like a rat, he might do it. But he's shown limits over and over again. Like, what else would he say? He showed him, Donald Trump first got in office, and he was doing the trade war. And he was like, I'm going to have economic war against the world. I'm going to bring everyone to the table. And China told him to f off. And the stock market was dropping. Like a thousand points in a truck still going with the route. And then the bond market started to show stress. And he stopped. He didn't stop because he wanted to. He stopped because there were economic indicators. There were lines that were dragging. But what price did he personally or politically pay for that?
I mean, you know, it contributed to the general downward trajectory of his approval ratings. But there's no like, you know, starting that trade war with China, didn't like in his own mind. Like, I did that now. I'm fucked. And I have to surrender everybody. But he thinks I am a loser. I don't think that's what he thinks that. I don't know what the wrong thing he is, but. I know, but he didn't have to stop. He stopped because he felt that they were actual walls. They were borders that he didn't necessarily want to go. Same thing with the Russians. Donald Trump gets into a thing where the question becomes, will the United States and attack Adams missiles to Ukraine for them to fire at Russia? And the question was like, maybe I would do this. Maybe I won't do this. And what happened? He and me do is, we haven't had last a sum. So we don't have to hear from him. But here's the difference. That was his way, wasn't it? Or quit. That was his way of getting out of doing something that he knows would have been completely catastrophic because Russia would have lost his mind the moment that an attack Adams hit Moscow, hit the front line. Putin had even said,
this is a red line. Trump refused to process a red line because he knew what was going to take place. And even in the wrong war, Donald Trump only went so far. You know, but he didn't necessarily want to run for a sponsor regardless of hitting the economic part of the, the overfinities and whatnot. And sorry, Arabia, UAE, Dubai, etc. Meaning he has limits. I could be wrong, but he has shown over and over and over again. He has limits for dollars. What he says. I mean, prove it to me. I'm wrong. I don't think you're wrong. But here's the thing, though, I think that if you become desperate enough, then you're willing to pull to play every card that you have and the one card that he has not played yet, our nuclear weapons. Just, I hope that you're right. I hope I'm wrong. But no, here's the issue, though. I think that if you look at the United States as a whole, we have a majority of nothing. No, typically countries are not, not kind enough of how you, you know, talk about France. France has a mythologies that we are French. We are an ancient civilization. We are homogeneous people. Even though you're not.
We have a common language, a common culture, a common religion. Do United States has none of that? We only agree with, on our symbols. Have the populations, because American flag is racist. Other people think that, that the person across the street is your problem. The only thing that holds the mythology of the American people together is the economy. That's it. That's all that we have anymore. Like, there's a majority of nothing. We have ballots, 180 different languages now. We are becoming a greener language. If the economy goes tits up, then the country falls apart. If Trump is able, if the Iranians bring them to global government, or the global economy, then that is gone. He has to take over that piece of real estate. He has to have it. He's got to have it. So then what you do, you turn Iran into a glass slate. How many times has he said, a civilization will die tonight? It's true.
If a man tells him, he's obviously giving it way too much thought. But guys, we've all expressed our opinion on this. We should, we're in the Q&A hour. So thanks for joining us. We're here until 11 a.m. Eastern. So thanks for joining us. Still have about 48 minutes left before DMZ. We'll take your questions and comments. Appreciate your questions and comments. And we have some more stuff to talk about too. Some questions. Philly's Fob did, I get into cartoonist and essay as Tim Criter. He wrote, the pain, when will it end? I love the title of that strip. A single panel comments to, for a free Baltimore street paper during the Bush junior years. Yeah, in fact, I know Tim. I put Tim in one of my anthologies. I edited an anthology of all two weekly comics called Attitude. And there are three of them. And Tim Criter is one of them. I interviewed him for the book. Love his work.
He doesn't do the cartoons anymore. He is now an essayist. Whose work appears sometimes in the New York Times. He's a brilliant guy. And let's see here. Question for me also from Frazel. Are you familiar with the Volga Germans? I am. And how Hitler's invasion mirrored Putin and Ukraine, because he was responding to war crimes against ethnic Germans. Well, so he claimed. So the Volga Germans were ethnic Germans in the Western Soviet Union. And Stalin didn't trust them for obvious reasons. Because they were obviously ethnically aligned with the Nazis. So he deported large numbers of them to the South Eastern Soviet Union. And even today, there's like at least one village in the mountains in Kyrgyzstan that we're Volga, where it's a Volga German ethnic village where they never returned home after World War II. Most of them returned home after the end of the war.
It was, but the if you go to this village, there's like German style window boxes, there's brew houses, they brew their own beer. And it's like you're in Germany. People you'll see dudes wearing later hosem. It's like frozen in time. It's not just Germany. Like it's not because it's Germany as it was in the 30s. So it's very weird. It's cute and strange, but that's in Kyrgyzstan. So Volga Germans are an interesting topic. Yeah, that's a trash. I mean, it's just, excuse me. I mean, so tacky because of... Mr. Gimzir, Russia, so here. Yeah, that was that was that was their stick, right? That they're like, oh, the the Sudeten Germans are being mistreated in Czechoslovakia. We have to go in and invade and save them. And I mean, the thing about these things is sometimes these arguments are true. Like, you know, what was happening to the ethnic Russian to Ukraine. That was true. So, okay, what do we want to talk about here?
Shall we do, okay, we talked about that. I do want to talk about Aramco. So the IPCC, the Interne government planning panel on... This is Matt Rogers from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Boan Yang. This is Boan Yang from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Boan Yang. Okay, we've been talking about QB Mail for a minute now, Bo. And wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love QB. And if you're thinking, wait, what is QB? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Well, the answer, egg yolks. QB is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it.
Whatever you're eating, QB hit. So if you haven't tried QB yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand QB, the original Japanese mayonnaise. Climate change, which is part of the UN, um, turns out the Guardian did a deep dive. Turns out that it's completely full of employees of Aramco, which is the Saudi Arabian state oil company. And literally Aramco is the number one producer of greenhouse gases on planet earth. And um, they manage to, they don't have any real rules to prevent conflict of interest on these things. So I mean, of course, I don't even know what to say. It's ridiculous. What do you mean? It makes all the sense of the world. I can't believe that this system. And if you are Aramco, who is the largest producer of greenhouse gases on earth, it behooves you to be very invested in the organization
that monitors greenhouse gases. So I really like it. It makes all the sense of the world from Aramco's point of view to do that. Sure. It's kind of like, um, if you are running a cigarette factory, then maybe you want to be part of the AMA. And you want to have a lot of people in American medical association. Because you want them to come out and say, cigarette's not that bad. Right. Exactly. Like the, the, the, the, the, the back of the day helps you job three miles. Dr. Like, that's what you want, right? And that's what Aramco is doing. I mean, it looks, it looks, an irrational world. This obviously is nonsense. I don't think it's true. Or it's insane. I mean, that's why it makes it funny, right? Because it's so absurd. It's like, um, uh, the, the, the, the dog, the person is supposed to be watching to make sure, uh, that dogs don't pee on the line. Has his own dog peeing on the wall. That's it. That's like, um, Mr. Fox, welcome to Hen House Security Corp. Yeah. Right. Right. Even better. Even better. Mr. Fox, welcome to Hen House Security.
It's that from their point of view, it makes sense. From a rational world's point of view, it's absurd. I think, I, I don't even know if it's worth discussing more than that. I mean, because I know, I think, I think, I mean, I think people can look at it and kind of see if it was like, wait a minute, they're the largest greenhouse gas producer on earth. And yet, they're also directly involved in monitoring and reporting on the greenhouse gases. And this has been going on for years, by the way, tomorrow. Apparently, like there's, these, all these quotes from like, the part that, I mean, I think you'll, you'll, you're going to be with me on this. So around coast, just being around co, right? What's weird to me is, of course, yeah, the UN can be corrupted. Okay, that's breaking news, stop the presses. But the part that's weird to me is there's people sitting who are legit climate scientists, climatologists sitting on those panels. They literally tell stories about like, oh, so I show up at the meeting
and I have a nice breakfast and this dude next to me and he starts talking, I'm like, oh, where are you from? And he's like, I work for a Ramco. And it's like, now that conversation happens a lot. And so how come there are, we haven't had climates, each and every one of these legit climatologists getting on their X-speed and saying, what the actual hell. Like, that's the part that I don't get. Like, that's just like, okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just like who pays for the panels? Oh, well, the UN pays for it, I think. And who pays for the UN? Yeah, I mean, I would imagine, yeah, I'm sure Aramco, like, funnels money, like, we would be happy to pay you. We'll pay you to stay for a climate, a favorable climate report today. I guess, I guess my thing is, I'll Ramco, I would imagine, putting a lot of money into making sure those people.
And they're sure there's some fat envelopes that get exchanged as well. About drug companies, do something similar. Drug companies run their own experiments. That's true. But that's like, but that would be more like a Ramco, creating a shell company, right? Like, scientists for a greener Earth. Sponsored by a Ramco. Right? That, I kind of get that, right? That's like a dark money in our politics. Like, the US doesn't, when Trump got an officer, remember when Trump got an officer, he says, we're pulling back money from the NED and what was the other one, the USA. And all of a sudden, all of these media organizations in Europe start freaking out. They're like, oh my god, we're losing all our money. And it was like 80% of the media organizations in Ukraine were effectively being funded by NED and USA. And all of them freaked out. Oh my god, how are we going to do our media? So you need, you guys were effectively being funded by the United States. Ridiculous.
What? Oh speaking of ridiculous, guess what I got? So I'm, God help me. Someone really hates me and put me on Kamala Harris's mailing list. Are you still, so I can't, yeah, I'm on notice, you're on notice, wrong. You don't have to do it wrong. So Kamala sends me or someone purporting to be Kamala, I'm more likely, sends me emails every morning. And today, it was like, granting about how evil Trump was for kicking CNN and MSNOW and Polotico out. We never talked about that. We never talked about that. Out of the white ass. Let's talk about it. And she was, but you're going to, you are going to love this. And she was like, how dare you? Like, interfere with the press. Like, the government should never censor the press. And I'm like, bitch, I'm out of work because of you. You like, serious. Like, you really fired, like, I don't know, 25, 30, 60 people. All, all, you know, real journalists doing much better work than people at CNN or Polotico.
Really, you know, you don't want to fuck you. We were far more right than any of them had ever been, especially in the war, and especially in issues of politics. Now, we were far more right. And yeah, they fired us for doing our jobs. And that just us RT also, right? Yeah, I mean, they shut down two media organizations. Yep. And complaining about, oh my god, they're pushing out the press. Yeah, she can fuck off. She can fuck all the way off. You can't even download the app from the app store just to watch it from overseas. Like, if you wanted to like download RT, like on your phone right now, you can't. I loved listening to you on fault lines. That was just so awesome. fault lines was fun. It was good. And we did good work, great show. Like, meaning we got the shit right far more than the major media ever got the shit, right? Meaning they were wrong for years. Like, they would come up with bullshit reporting over and over and over again.
One story after the next and stuff was just nonsense. And many times, I mean, you could tell me from your perspective, it felt like we were living in Alice in Wonderland. Like, it's like what they report, Russia just wants to take over all of Europe and they started the war for no reason just to take over all of Europe because Putin's a bad guy. And you're looking at this like, okay, so in one sense, they're fighting with shovels and they're being beat, but in another sense, they're also trying to take over all of Europe. Okay, you guys need to make your figure out which one. You wanted to be a campy book. And they would write shitty stories about me. They would trash me. They would trash. I don't know if Malik was there when they was trash. And I think Farron was there at the time. And they were just wrong all the way through. And now they're complaining, oh my god, they got rid of CNN and MSNOW. I think that's what they call it. From. Yeah, from. From. From. From. And it's like, so why should I keep? Yeah, not to mention honestly, even if none of this this hypocritical shit had happened,
there should be no such thing as a White House press corps. You think so. Yeah, what for? It's not the university. I mean, to be. Well, for one, they're trash at their jobs, which makes the job somewhat pointless to me. It's one thing though, if they was an adversarial press, I'm not going to go to the office. Well, that's like, that's how it was under Richard Nixon, right? You know, where, I mean, those press conferences are amazing to watch. Where, you know, they're up, they're crawling up the president's ass like nobody's business. At least toward the end. Um, Ronald Reagan teamed them. He gelbed them. He like, you know, they used to stand up and scream at you. Mr. President, Mr. President. And then Reagan was like, no, you all have to stay seated. And then he had a chart where he would call on, you know, on, on, and it's been like that ever since. And so, you know, it's like that old Jewish joke, right? That restaurant is terrible. The food's terrible and such small portions.
I mean, the press, there's fewer press conferences than ever before. And they're, and they all suck. And they're worthless. I mean, I don't think it's like, look, without an adversarial press court, there's no point to this exercise. And I think it's almost inherently going to be non adversarial. I mean, just imagine any media organization. Just let's just say like, oh, it was like the, you know, the Kremlin press court. And like the, and so Russian and foreign news, you know, press organizations, they, they have an office at the Kremlin. They wait for Putin or hit press or Putin spokesperson to give a stop. And they, and they ask him questions. We would, people all over the world would look at that and be like, that's ridiculous. Like, I mean, what is the point of that? That's not real journalism. And they'd be right. And this is exactly the same. They don't do that. Like, you know, Russia has too much dignity to have such a ridiculous, posturing thing going on. And then I'm going to do that. I mean, it's, it's dumb.
It's like, if you, I mean, look, if the president of the United States wants to call a press conference, who's fucking stopping him? Right? He can, he can put on the internet. I'm throwing up, you know, invite all the media. Be there. Be square. 12 noon today. See, you know, you know, try to be in by 11 o'clock and free or set up. I mean, they don't, they don't have to be working there. I never understood that. Like, I mean, I kind of get it a little more when they talk about like the press, you know, the pegs have kicked out the reporters who used to walk the halls of the Pentagon. And they got, and they made friends with people. This vast thing. And sometimes, you know, an officer would be like, you know what, I will talk to you. I get that a little more. But even so, I get, again, nothing stops, you know, a general who has something to say from calling up, you know, a guy at the Washington Post and saying, hey, you want to get a beer? You know, I mean, nothing stopping them. And when you call a press conference anytime they want to, they don't need these guys just hanging around waiting for the president like dogs.
Just a brief moment. Also, the, there's an incentive for them not to be an officer. Right. Because they want to be, because they want to not get kicked out. They don't want to get Jim Acosta. They want to be there. Yeah. I mean, it's one thing you think was kind of like, hey, it's just like, we know it's talked about it. Like it felt good to be part of it. But it's like useless, but it felt good. Like if you can say like, like, come on, if you could, like, you were looking for a job and you were like, and you're able to say like, well, I was a white house press correspondent. Oh, that looks great. You'll probably get your call returned from the Seattle Times, you know? Yeah. A few people who take that spot, if they don't want to lose that spot. I mean, it's one thing if they were content. I'm like a pack of animals. One of those. That's how it was in 74. Yeah. The next thing is like, hey, what about, um, what is your name? I'll go with the Epstein list. It's a reason why you don't want to release it. And Trump's like, well, that's a stupid question. I'm not going to answer that and move the next person. The next person, your thickness, and they move to the next person. The next person says, hey, are you in the Epstein list?
Is that the reason I don't want to move it? And every person that goes actually, that same question in order for the answer out of the president. Okay, then I would be like, let's keep it. They're good. Yeah. That's not the way it worked. That's not the way it works. No, it's not the way it works. No, it's not the way it works. That's what is older than back 14 days though. That basically rebuked Trump's demand. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, it looked like this has happened before. Trump has kicked out reporters before. He always loses. And um, which is the white house. The White House doesn't troll who comes into the White House. No, because it's like, basically, they have a first amendment. So it's the fact that it's retaliation based on first amendment speech. That's part of my lawsuit against the LA Times. It's like, you can, you know, if you say, like, I'm getting rid of you because of your point of view, that's not a jit under the first amendment. Yeah, the current. Now the difference is in the gibberish.
Yeah, if you said, like, oh, the person violated security protocols or, you know, I caught him blowing Hunter Biden or in the side passage or whatever, then like, you know, you could kick him out. But if you say it's because of a first amendment thing, then. And Trump knows that. And so he, he like, did it on purpose, like, knowing he's going to lose. You think it did on purpose? I think he's going to happen. It's a, well, I think, okay, so let's talk about incompetence. Because there's a lot to talk about there. So, ice. Ice has wasted, according to the GAO, they've documented all sorts of waste in ice and related agencies like customs and border protection. But basically due to mismanagement, they have, they have, for example, spent $3 million to build. Remember, they had a little side gulag that was going to be outside at Guantanamo? They never did anything with it.
They bought, they spent at least $20 million to buy, to maintain warehouses that they also bought at far greater sums that are never, have never been used. And they're now going to try to sell probably in many cases at a loss without having housed a single detainee. They also paid to hold detainees at alligator alcatraz, even though alligator alcatraz very quickly was closed down because of, you know, it's in the Everglades and they never got a environmental impact statement filed with the EPA and now it's shut down. So basically, again, we come down to an administration that has no strategy, right? They have no strategic plan. They don't have a like, you know, like, you know, this is what we're going to do. But if this goes wrong, then we'll go to plan B. They don't operate that way. This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East. That's with Matt Rogers and Boan Yang. This is Boan Yang from Lost Culture East.
That's Matt Rogers and Boan Yang. Okay, we've been talking about Cupid male for a minute now, Bo. And wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of you all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love Cupid. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Cupid? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Will the answer egg yolks? Cupid is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles. Chefs use it, restaurants use it. People who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Cupid. So if you haven't tried Cupid yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. I'll buy a lot of shit to pour to bunch your vassals.
Yeah, you know, that's it. There's the- I'll make a prediction. Then the infamous term, Obama would have deported more people to the intro. This puts me in mind- But he deported them from the border. That's fine. I'm just making a point of saying, I don't think Trump is going to be as successful as an immigration thing. That's I think that people's- Oh, I agree. If you're just looking at wrong numbers, yeah. Yeah, just wrong numbers. There's a show real world that you just go on MTV and you may remember this. Oh, yeah. I had a friend who was on it. Yeah. Really? Seriously? Mm-hmm. Very cool. There's a scene, you know, there's an episode where they are out at a strip club. And the male dancers are like these huge buff, hurtfully in men that are dancing and everything else. One of the women tries to hook up with one of the dancers. And when she finally hooks up with them, it goes- That's what you know those guys are all gay. Well, it goes for a good three seconds. And she's- And he's like, oh, I'm sorry. You can hear him, like,
this speaker's in the bathroom, right? And she comes walking out and then I happen to walk away. That's what this puts me in mind. She's looking at something. And she's seeing like, big tough guy, strong guy. Oh, this is going to be a great night. It's like he's boasting about how great he's going to be because of all the qualities associated with him. And then he gets in and it's like three seconds. So she's going to be like, this is going to be a walk walk. That guy. That's what I said. It's like this big tough guy who you believe that is going to last for five hours and all of it. And competence. It's like being mean and doing criminal shit. It's not the same thing as being effective. Those are very different. True. They could have done it in a different way. Well, deporting at the border wasn't going to work, right? Because the borders have effectively been closed. It's something that, by the way, it's funny to me that Democrats never point this out. But they're incompetent at campaigning or messaging.
And, you know, Biden shut down the border. It's one of the last things he did when he was like in trouble and trying to save his campaign. And basically Trump just kept that role. Pardon? Would he claim forever that he couldn't do it? Right. But then he snapped his figure and just overnight that was it, right? So he could. And so Biden shut down the border. Trump kept its shut. So the border shot, right? So you can't really deport from the border if people aren't crossing the border. So I guess you'd want to, I guess you could open the border and deport from the border. But then what's the point of that? So I mean, look, if I were engaged in a map, if you and I were planning to put in chart, paid millions of dollars to run the mass deportation campaign, I know my first step you would agree with, which is like, look, we'll start with all the jailed illegals who are here with violent felonies. Couple of people are criminal. Yeah, and they're, you know, we're spending US taxpayer dollars to house them. You know, the crowd prisons are overcrowded.
Let's get rid of them. Let's let's let's send those guys home. And by the way, no one could disagree with that. Like I don't care. Even even Sonali might not be able to make a. She's not like Sonali would complain, but no one else would. She'd be the only one. And so, you know, but most people 99.9% of Americans would be like, see ya. And then you could get into, let's say, grifters, like scumbags, like say gang bangers, you know, trendy Aragua people, you know, major drug dealers, you get rid of those guys, you could also, you know, tell them to fuck off and go. And so now, but by the time you get down to the door dash guy at the Mexican restaurant, now you've got a problem. I mean, politically you've got a problem because these are people who are essentially their Americans. They're here. They're working. They're, they're being the law. They're doing everything they should be doing.
They're paying taxes. I mean, but so where do you cut that off? But I mean, I think the problem for the, for the administration is there are not a lot of scumbag immigrants, you know, by percentage. There's like, you know, maybe 5%, 10%, maybe if you stretch, but then what, what do you do? You know, then now you're, you know, you're reduced to deporting people who are dropping their kids off at school and shit. But so you need to show up in black mass. It's not the bad. No, who dropped his kid off at school. You literally can show up and be like, I guess I have a little bit of a little life. I could also give people like you could literally say like listen, we know where you live. If you really want to be a dick, you can put a slap a slap of, you know, a, you know, a wrist bracelet on them and be like, listen, you got to wrap things up. You know, sell your shit, sell your car, send your money overseas. And six months, you're gone.
You know, we'll come back for you. Just, it's way. It's the point. Right. It does not have to be this way. And that's the way if I were going to do this, which I would not do this this way. But if I were going to do it, that's how I would do it. And because it's more frictionless. It's like giving people time to unwind their lives and stuff. You're letting kids finish their school year and stuff like that. And they're regular people like it's not like, yeah, they're not crazy. They're not crazy. They're not going to land. You're not going to be able to integrate their lives into the US knocking on their door, putting a sticker on their door. Like, meaning you don't have to, I'm showing up at a random rest, Mexican restaurant and snatching some guy who looks a little bit Mexican. It's not that right. Exactly. I mean, I don't think the guy is, I mean, they broke his teeth and all. He says, I'm a fucking American. You can suck my dick and stuff like that. They got this stuff. Yeah. And like, what the guy was an American, he was right. Like, how old was he? It's like the lady in Minnesota, right?
The lesbian who got shot. She was sassy. You can see she sort of had this smug look. She obviously thought her white privilege was going to prevent her from being blown away by an agent of the state. And she was mistaken. I mean, she had every right to have that smirk. And the fucker who shot her should be in prison for the rest of his life. But the point is that like, yeah, they get pissed off. I never even understand that as a defense, right? When cops say, oh, well, you know, the person was, they didn't obey. They were uncooperated. Like, you're a cop. Like, you know, grow up, you know, grow up buttercup. Like, seriously. Yeah, it's like, you know, it's just part of the job, right? I have to cut videos. That's part of my job. I don't like that. I have to do it. Yes. I don't like doing it. But it's my job. Right. Okay. You chose to be a cop. Nobody forced you to stay in press game. You made a choice. Right. It's like President Trump. He wanted the job. Cops want the job.
Nobody for you. You're not drafted. So, yeah, no, it's very, it's puzzling to me. So, yeah, so I mean, it's a human thing. But I mean, there's also some human things that people just have to get over it just because it's part of the job. Yeah. I mean, I hate to bring up Star Trek reference. But when Christopher Pike was, um, do you remember, I don't know if you, I hate Star Trek discovery. I don't even consider a Star Trek. But that episode was actually quite good. What Pike was in a position where he needed to touch, uh, get the clear on stone. He needed to get a stone and stone gave people a vision of the future. And, you know, for Pike, he ends up getting all fucked up. Like, he's like in a chair, like in the buttons of the guests. Yeah. Right. Pike didn't know that though because the episode of the future. Yeah, yeah. He just, he always could end up looking like Joe Biden. Until he touched the stone. And when he touched the stone, he saw the accident that put him in the chair, he had been getting burned, felt all of it.
And Pike freaked out. Pike, like, was backed away. He was on the ground. He was freaking out. And Pike set himself, your Star Trek, your Star Trek captain. Basically, he's selling himself. I am, you're more than just a man. As a man, you have to accept that, right? It's like, as a man, you said, okay, fuck that. I don't want to touch that. I'm not dealing with that. That is not going to be my future. I'm doing something else. And Pike's thing was, I am a Starfleet officer. It is my job. It is my ethical philosophical responsibility to do this. And Pike took the stone, knowing full well what was going to happen to him when he took the stone. He was more than a man because he was a Starfleet captain. It's like the, it's like the Jesus thing. Jesus knows when he goes back to Jerusalem. And the Romans be looking for him. It's not going to end well. But he's supposed to. Exactly. And the same thing is true for a cop. It's not that it's great that people talk shit to you. I get it. People don't like people talking shit to him. I get it. And you feel you have authority that you can force that authority on that person who's talking shit to you.
That's not really true though. I mean, you sure you can kill him. You can beat him. You can do all that stuff. But that's not really your job. Your job is to do the opposite of that and to try to de-escalate. Not necessarily to be the one who shoots the guy who's going for his wallet. Like I've seen videos of cops, but they would say, Do you have your driver's license? And the guy would say, yes, reach for it and the cop would shoot him. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And he's like, what the fuck? You don't like it my life. He's like, where you moved? It's like, yeah. Even in that position, the cop would put the guy in handcuffs. Well, I mean, no, I mean, the thing is, it's like, yeah, you have to handle cops. Like, they're a rabid pit bull. You know, I mean, like, yeah, I mean, I got a ticket not long ago. I mean, and this is my thing. And I'm a white guy. I'm an old white guy with gray hair. You know, and you know, I get pulled over. I know enough to be like, oh shit. If I can get to my, if I can get my docs out quickly, I put them, I get them out before he comes over. I, you know, I have my hands up on the steering wheel.
The windows down. I'm like, and literally I'll be like, I hope you like license and registration. I'll be like, it's right over here. Is it okay if I get it? It's like, you know, and just, okay, it shouldn't be like that. It should be like, I mean, the thing is seriously, the way they act, it's like they act like everybody's going to shoot them. No, 99.999999% of Americans are going to be pulled over by the cops. And they'll be like, ah, fuck, don't you have anything better to do? Really? I wasn't driving that fast. That's about as bad as it's going to be. Really? I mean, it's like, God, what about your policies? I just, they'll open the door and fall off the car, hands up. Oh my God. Got a question for you. I'm going to let you and Robbie talk about it because I got to take a pee really bad. But, um, okay. You say, you see me there? Yeah, I got a pee. Well, let's put, I want to answer this first. Jesse, if I tried to run, run, ram a cop on a traffic stop, I should expect to get shot.
I think it's fair. We can't kill cops. Okay, sure. But the cops come up behind you on the side. So, and all these videos of like cops, you know, ice guys claiming that they were going to get rammed. Either it was known stupidity for standing in front of the car and thinking that them standing in front of the car was going to prevent someone from running over them, which is, you know, any real cop is trained not to do that. Um, it's like, or they just lied. And they said like, oh, the person was going to ram me when they were just leaving or trying to leave or panicking because they were scared of the gun. And they're not acting like cops. I mean, these guys are driving up jumping out of a car trying to snatch somebody. And it's like, oh my god, they tried to ram me. Dude, you were driving up wearing masks trying to snatch somebody out of the street with some kind of rendition thing, kind of like press games in Ukraine. Expect conflict. Yeah, totally. Yeah.
Here's a question for you. This is money. Mateo, question for Jean Mauch. I mean, Jamar, pardon my French, which species would JT want to be in Star Trek? Other than humans, of course, I'm taking myself out of here. You're talking about that. I'll be back in a minute. Yeah. I'm going to be back in the queue of Betasoy, one of the others. Thank you, Betasoy. Betasoy happens because they're remads. And I think that's cool. Q for obvious reasons. Not just that. I'll give you a thing. Which one? Set it up again, Robbie. I would pick Robbie. If I was going to be a Star Trek. Oh, the Romulans. Yes. Because they're big on order. And just kind of just want to maintain a status quo. I mean, they're not really very friendly with the Klingons, because Klingons be expansiony. But, uh, probably they just seem to just be just, why would we left alone?
You remember the iteration of the Romulans ended up in a war. No, they did because, uh, well, because of the border dispute. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But once they, you know, once they figure out what the border is going to be and had had a, uh, the military has a zone for the most part. Federation stay on their side. Romulans stay on their side. Um, it's similar to the really the biggest beef that the Romulans really seem to have was really against the Klingons, because weren't they the ones that killed wars family? Yeah, the nuclear war family. They, they, uh, what the Kittamer maskers, like that would have federation got involved in this. The Klingons kind of chill. Yeah. Um, no, I get that. It's funny. I would have never thought the Romulans. Um, well, I think that you got to have rules, right? So you got to have rules. You got to have borders. And, uh, you know, you know, you know, you're able to have some say what happens outside your borders, but that's not really the main policy. Just the big thing is you just don't be left alone. Be strong enough for people aren't able to just screw with you.
And, uh, yeah, I think I have to pick a pick Romulans because federations, they're just, I think the federation in a lot of ways, I'd like to cling on empire, but they have better propaganda. Whereas the Klingons would just go and kick you in the face. Well, the Klingons were having slaves. I mean, that was one of the big beefs that people were making with federations. I was like, well, how are you making deals with the Klingons with the Klingons? I mean, even in the enterprise where the Klingons went to the planet and was trying to force those people of mine, I forget whatever product they were trying to mine, forced them to do so. But the Klingons had slave worlds. No, the federation on an all surface has slave worlds. This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East. That's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culture East. That's Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Okay, we've been talking about QB mail for a minute now, Bowen. Wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of you all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love QB. And if you're thinking, wait, what is QB?
Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Well, the answer? Egg yolks. Cupid is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, QB hit. So if you haven't tried QB yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand, QB, the original Japanese mayonnaise. But does the federation have corporations and people who are able to, I don't know enough about the federation economy? I'm just, I'm just really sorry to start watching the deep space nine. I think I like Babylon five better because I think it's probably more realistic.
Well federation is based on energy. Like meaning the moment that you get like replicators and stuff like that, then the issue becomes okay. Energy. Energy is needed to run the replicators and replicators can build stuff. And so people may have like energy credits. So say for example, if you're born in federation, you may have X amount of energy credits and every year you may get more energy credits. And by the time you get 18, you're basically a millionaire. You can do whatever you want. You can go wherever you want. That would be what. For the most part, when they build ships, the ships are more complicated in which case they need to be some kind of economy in order to build those ships. That part, I'm unclear. Like they obviously the world's a pooling and resources that kind of like the death star when the death star was blown up, you can think of like thousands of worlds that it took the build that death star and all the economies that came together, noted the bill that thing. And when that thing blew up, imagine all the people that died someone were janitors, somewhere data center people and so on. Have you ever, have you ever got to see that the great satire video about the death star?
Like the 911 death star satire video? It's just it's two, it's like two star wars stormtroopers at a bar and they're like, oh, like it's a, it wasn't it's already been a year since they blew up the death star. Oh, man, like, you know, I could have been there. I was almost there. I got all those people. It's like, you know, I was stuck in space traffic. Oh, yeah, space traffic. It's so great. And they're like, now every time I look up there, it's like just space. It's like, yeah, just just just nothing. It's just it's so great. I can tell you the one species I would never be. I would never pick to be a queue. Really? I would not trust myself with that kind of power. I would. I think that I've been trying to do the right thing. I would end up being a tyrant. But you don't have to try to do the right thing.
What's the race that lives on the pleasure planet? Oh, Riza. Riza. I want to live there regardless of my race. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but it feels like a pointless life. But that just because I'm cool. That's cool. I mean, I don't see the difference. I do think there's a point to life. What's funny about this? People are different on this pleasure. It's not pleasure is the point of life. If I remember, I remember. I did in this woman and she was like, your, she said my problem was. That I thought, you know, the point that the best part of life was having fun. I'm like, it is. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like there's so much more to let your life than that. And I'm like, yeah, but not the good things. Right? I mean, like sure, there's a lot of pain and agony and anguish and stress and anxiety. But like, you know, I mean, like, we should have as much fun as we can.
Right? Well, I agree with you. I mean, because otherwise, what's the point? I know there's stuff that's. Look, there's no point to life other than the point that people give it. But sometimes it's not enough for people, right? Like, like, there's a book by Frank Herbert called the God. I think it may be the God maker, but effectively a person became God. And, you know, the point that he was making off the times is like, off the time until people's point of view doesn't seem to be enough for him. Like, for an amount of who's like, well, God hates gaze. And so I don't like homosexuality. And it's like, okay, just say you don't like it. Yeah. Because, by the way, it brought me this is a question for you, right? When people say, like, God wants this, God doesn't like that. I mean, how does anybody knows only God knows what God knows, right? Like, how do to me when someone says like, God would want me to do this. I'm like, okay, so you're psychotic because you're pretending to know what God thinks. Right. It's like, how do you know that? Yeah.
Well, the thing is, I don't know that you can know that. It's by spending a lot of time in prayer. You got to study his word. And the biggest thing that you have to do is no expression ever. You're studying a scripture is that you have to realize first, you are not God. Your mind, our minds are way too small. Second, if God is going to give you some kind of divine revelation like that, then you need to direct yourself a brand new book in the Bible and submit it to the council of Nicae to get canonized. Because God does not work that way. So, but, so, but let's get to my point. What happens? So when someone, when you hear as a Christian, Rob, someone say, God wants this. God wants that. What do you think? Are they full of shit or are they arrogant or are they perfect? We're going to go. Well, tell me what God wants. God wants people to be saved. That's what he says. He said, love the two highest commandments. Love the Lord, die God with all I heart, all of mine, all I understand and then love thy neighbor as I self.
Okay, but Rob, when someone says, like when someone says, for example, you know, I don't know God wants Israel to have, you know, to have this past particular patch of land. Delight. How do they know? I mean, what do you think? I mean, I think they're, I think they're at best insane. I'm giving them credit. At least if they're crazy, it's not their fault. No, they are lying because God has already given us a very specific roadmap. So what the kept, what the covenant was in relation to Israel is a conditional covenant. If you do this, what is this that you must do? You must follow my commandments. It's impossible to follow the commandments. The whole point of the law is to show everyone that we're all sinners in which case you then ask for forgiveness. If you're able to do this, then I will give these things to you. Israel did not do that. Israel rejected them. Israel, Israel went as far as that. Is that they crucified their Messiah and had them executed? The kingdom was taken away from them.
No good deed goes unpunished. And so to answer your question is that you have to study yourself approved and read the entirety of the scripture. Because in both testaments, old and new. If you do this, you're going to be destroyed. The promises are taken away and the kingdom will be given to someone else. There is nothing in the New Testament at all. It's a period. It does not exist. That says that the Jews are entitled to anything. Okay. It's not there. Okay. Did I answer your question? You answered my question. Frasmitas. I got a question from Frasmitas. Then we got to talk about Danish intelligence. Frasmitas. How does Robbie and JT or how do Robbie and JT feel about Stargate SG1? I don't know. I don't know. I've been bingeing every single day. Stargate SG1 is basically a Star Trek. From Alan, as opposed to Star Trek in the 23rd century.
That's basically what it is. They even have similar episodes. Some of the episodes on Star Trek Gate are effectively the episodes that were on Star Trek. It's like, oh, there's a computer virus. What do we do about the computer virus? Yesterday, it was really good. It took over Samantha. The computer virus took over Samantha. Jack loves her. He can't say it, but he loves her, especially in the earlier seasons. They made the point of saying, because Daniel and Samantha wanted to talk to the thing. Jack was like, fuck that. What are you talking about? When Samantha went to talk to it, it took over her body. In which case, Jack is like, I was right. You all were wrong. We should have ballooned it up. And Daniel made the point to him. Look, regardless of what happens, we were right to try to communicate first. That's a Star Trek. That's a Star Trek in a nutshell. The beauty of Stargate 1, though, is kind of like these are human beings like we are now.
But think of it as you have a team of people who have different ideas of things. Still, it's going to be more military. Jack is going to be more military. Sam is more scientific. Daniel is more scientific. Then two are more willing to be open to communicate to those things as opposed to the military component of the team. But they work together and they respect each other. Which is the best that you can think in regards to humanity. It's a blowjob to the Air Force, by the way. That's going to be very clear, right? That's the way the US military behaves. But this is the way they're projecting it out as what is the best version of this that you can think of. And the fact that Daniel said even after Sam was taken somebody he loves, we weren't wrong by trying to communicate. And I saw that was like, oh, that's so good. It's so good. Like, many, you have all these people with different ideas. Jack is not going to believe that it's a good thing. He loves Sam. And the thing took over Sam. So from his point of view, I was right. We should have blew him shut up or what if I'm the beginning. But I think Daniel is right. Communication or trying to communicate is not wrong,
even if the results of it turn out to be wrong. Meaning even if it's bad as it turns out, it doesn't mean that you're actually wrong. You can do things that are good and have negative outcomes. And it doesn't necessarily mean that what you did was bad. It just means that outcome turned out bad, which was the point that he was trying to make to the two. It's an ethics issue. Do you kill first, but do you try to communicate first? And the answer is you try to communicate first, even if it turns out bad. By the way, start track in, um, Strangely worlds hits this with Chris and her pike, where there's a start track episode with Kirk, where Kirk is going after the Romulans in this kind of submarine warfare type thing. It's a damn good episode, one of the best episodes of Star Trek, the original series. And they have a version of it where Pike lives, because Pike was supposed to die or be injured. And Kirk, instead of it being Kirk, it was Pike. And Pike fucks it up. Because Pike is looking at it like we could be friends, we could be neighbors, I can extend myself, I could take the risk. I'm going to extend myself to the Romulans.
And Romulans look that it has this sucker. This sucker has allowed himself to be at a disadvantage of us. Was Kirk wasn't looking at it? That we were, Kirk wasn't looking at it as this is a military issue. If the Romulans believed they can get away with it, they would continue to do this at God's stop their ship, and then let's destroy that ship. Oh, it's a fascinating dichotomy. I'm pointing out that it was a very similar thing with Samantha. And Daniel and those verses Jack. It's like, it's an ethics question. And they went with an ethics question in the context of, just because you act morally, doesn't mean that it's going to be rewarded. It's not about how it turns out, it's about you as a person, and what you believe in. No, it's fascinating. It's not okay, SD1 is fantastic. Best show ever. Yes, we have four minutes left. Let's talk about the DDS, the Danish Defense Intelligence Service, says that there is a low but growing risk Russia could launch a limited military attack against a NATO member in the coming months.
Say, they claim that the Kremlin is becoming more audacious, which they can read either as desperate or more or bolder. I would not, I don't see why they would have a reason to feel desperate. By the way, the CIA is pointed this out to, and Macron pointed this out to the UN speech saying this is bullshit. The CIA said that Russia wants to attack what is the Spain, Italy, and France with drones from some kind of boat. And it's like, Macron got up and said, this is nonsense. It's absolutely even called it nonsense. I mean, do they attack it so? Do they attack it so? It's so specific. It's so absurd. It's so absurdly specific. Well, do they attack Estonia? And what happens to NATO if they hit Estonia? They have to decide whether they're going to rise to the occasion.
Well, they got to do something. I mean, Russia right now, they're actually starting to, you can't see the Ukraine's attacks against the Russian refineries just starting to bite, starting to hurt. So it is starting to really impact the Russian economy, it's starting to impact their ability to function as a nation. So that keeps happening. Yeah, the ability to function as a nation. Yeah, they're starting to ration, they're starting to ration fuel. True. Because of fuel shortages. So many refineries are getting hit. It's actually starting to happen. The price of energy has gone up. True. I don't remember if they made the thing about sending diesel outside the country or not, or if they change the city. They have, they are not exporting diesel because they simply don't have enough of it. And so if that keeps happening, remember earlier how we're talking about, what would Trump be crazy enough to nuke Iran if the American economy is on the break of collapse? And are you? Yes.
Well, if the Russian economy is really starting to be punished, and if the Ukrainians are, don't be able to do this, is because of the support they're getting from NATO, why wouldn't the Russians just backhand them so, okay, enough is enough. You're going to stop now. A lot of people want them to hit something, but I don't think Putin is going to do it. And it may not be. That's going to have to be the last word, gentlemen. Thanks very much for another awesome week on D-program. Always a pleasure. We're here Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. Eastern, Monday Wednesday Friday, two hours, one hour on Tuesdays and Thursdays, which means we back Monday with a two-hour show, please stay tuned for the DMZ America's podcast with me and Scott Stantis. That's coming up right now live on YouTube and Rumble. We will be talking about whether or not editorial or political cartooning, which is pretty much dead, can it be saved or resurrected from the dead? Thanks, guys. Happy going, guys. Be safe.
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