Terrorist Attack Thwarted and Alleged PDF Sues | 10.1.26

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1:20It is Thursday, October 1st, 2026. Thank you for cheating on the news with us. I'm not going to talk about this. But Israel, well, because Israel took it down. You're saying you'll hear. You'll hear. You'll hear. It's interesting. Luckily, but you're crazy stuff. Okay. Crazy stuff. Hero pilot, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Huge news. Huge news. Mark, what do you got on deck? Oh, man. I've got a wild story out of Austin. It's got some twists and turns and it's got a topic we talk about fairly often.

2:25And even though all of our agencies told us not to talk about the topic, pedophilia, and then like groups of people that go after it, like we've talked about those groups to the people. It's a vigilante pedophile hunt. A vigilante groups that like go be pitch a lot of video. It's a crazy story. We'll talk about it. Okay. Fantastic. I can't wait to find out. And then I've got a little bit of a lighter note to end things. We're going to go back to fraternity hazing. That's going to be another one. A specific type of fraternity hazing. This time, the University of Arizona has had enough. Yes. Another one, Mark. Yeah. The fraternities are hot this week. If the fraternity fraternity bashing is hot this week. What happened this summer? Like, I don't know because like, yeah, it's a start of the school year. It's a school year. People are popping off. Yeah. I mean, I think they're starting, these frats just started getting fucking maligned with accusations.

3:26And this one, I mean, you be the judge, but I, I, I feel for these boys. There's so much angst in this country that even the, even the hazing is getting worse. The fraternities. I don't think it is. I mean, I think that the one will get into it. I don't think it is. I think there's a crackdown happening. A crackdown. I think there's a crackdown. I think we're, we're in the midst of a crackdown. They might, they might do away with frats. They're doing every, if they're, if they're all like Cornell, they should probably, you know, well, no, no, I mean, that was in the past, too. So that's, I mean, the only one. Yeah. It was the very recent past, but the Cornell one was horrific. Also, they're lawyers piping up and they've got some interesting responses. And it's, oh, yeah, they're going to drag that girl through the mud. Oh, they are already beginning to, yes, it has begun. Yeah, we're not going to talk about that though. We're going to talk about the lighter side of fraternity hazing. Okay. Yeah. Good. All right. Well, let's get to the big news of the day. Guys, if I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times, just like the house, the Jews

4:28always wins. Right? Sure. The Jews always wins. They are the chosen people after all. Those two words together is hard to say. Yeah, the Jews always wins. Sounds like they're not saying all right. Yeah, I, I still think the Jews always win, but I wanted to make it out. It's not like the house always wins. Yeah. Yeah. It's the triple S. Yeah, you got to like singular Jew though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did it. I messed it up on purpose. And today, thankfully, for hundreds of innocent passengers on board a plane headed to Tel Aviv from Dubai, who would have been casualties of, like, as I said, a 9-11, like terrorist attack. That was indeed the case. They won, thankfully. Okay. And here's what happened. This happened, you know, information is still developing. We don't know exactly what, what the, the motive was. Sure. I mean, kind of tell what the motive was, but, or, you know, how organized it was. But what happened is a flight was flying from Dubai, airport DXB, on its way to Tel Aviv,

5:33when an altercation occurred in the cockpit. And by altercation, I mean, the co-pilot stabbed the pilot and tried to take over the plane so he could crash it. Yeah, it's an altercation. That's a serious altercation. Whoa. So they're saying that there was a terrorist, a jihadi was the deal. He infiltrated train and became the co-pilot. Yeah. Fly Dubai hired a terrorist for the Israel, for the Israel route. Yeah. Pretty cold. That's the one guy you don't want on the Tel Aviv route. So he's got a knife on him. They don't check him for that. If the co-pilot's the terrorist, that's a slam dunk terrorist attack, usually. Yeah. Whips his knife out inside the cockpit. I believe it's locked. It goes for the pilot and step. Yeah. The plane was hijacked before it took off. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Now, the plane was a Boeing 737 Max 8, so it probably would have crashed anyway. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? It's an odds. Yeah.

6:33But the co-pilot was a hero who's. Yeah. He saved the whole plane. I know where this is going. Yeah. The Tuesday Boeing. So, you know, obviously he wanted to make sure it hit its target and killed not only all 174 passengers, mostly Israelis, but also lots of Israelis on the ground. And that number is actually pretty significant because if you multiply 174 by 367, you'll get the number of children killed or injured in Gaza, according to a UNICEF study published in 2026. So, pretty high. Yeah. And I think it's best to let the Israelis vote for a person. How many Boeing 737 Max is from fly Dubai? 364. 367. 367. 367. Yeah. With 174 people on board. That's the math. So, here's what BB addressed the nation. And I apologize if the language he's speaking is offensive to some of you, but there is a translator. So, here we go.

7:33Is the case, Ryan. Citizens of Israel. This morning, there was a highly severe security incident on a flight from Dubai to Israel. It's up with this voice. Yeah. Almost all the passengers on the flight were Israelis during the flight. As they approached the country, one of the pilots stabbed the other pilot. He apparently tried to crash the plane with its passengers. I spoke with one of the Israeli passengers. He told me that the plane entered a tailspin and began to dive. He told me that against all odds, he managed to break into the cockpit along with one of the crew members. And together, they neutralized the stabbing pilot while he was trying to sabotage the plane's systems. Additional flight crew on board entered the cockpit and managed to stabilize the aircraft. I salute these heroes who showed exceptional resourcefulness and courage. They saved many lives. They prevented a heavy disaster. The plane went. Yeah.

8:34Whoa. How the hell did they know that the tailspin was a co-pilot stabbing a pilot? Did he get on the intercom? Yes. He must have been like, come help me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, again, the plane, according to Reuters, the plane dropped nearly 14,000 feet in less than 30 seconds. And that number is significant because if you multiply 14,000 by 4.5, you'll get the number of children that have been killed or injured since the start of the genocide in Gaza, according to the same study I referenced earlier. That's easier math. That's easier math. Yeah. So, this, this terrorist is just a horrible job. He didn't finish. He didn't, he didn't lock. I mean, it's kind of scary that they were, first of all, able to open the cockpit door because you're not supposed to be able to do that in today's plane. This is the worst terrorist of all time. He's the worst terrorist of all time. He was at the one yard line. Yeah. So, so, Wes, do you have your, your cap on, your, your tinfoil? Is that what's happening here?

9:35I mean, maybe you'll see. The Reuters admitted that they dropped 14,000 feet. No, I think this guy, I think there was a repair attack. This, this sounds like there was an attack. Yeah, no, there was definitely an attack. The details sounded believable. I will say that. I don't know how organized, what I, what, what, what's still fishy is whether this guy just lost his mind like that, like, like, or was he part of a bigger organization? Like, was it, was he affiliated with Hamas, was he affiliated with the terrorist group? Or did he just, Well, no one's going to claim him after this botched job. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll never know now. Yeah. So, No, we don't have to vow that, yeah. Yeah. So, again, as we said, great background check, fly Dubai, you know, putting that guy on the Israeli televiv route. He's either a hardcore terrorist or insane either way. Plus, you have not much of a difference. We have a whole plane of witnesses. And I may guess you could set that up too, but I mean, still, that's a, that's a lot of moving parts. So it gets even weirder. So I guess, you know, this is an extremely valuable PR moment and BB, BB knew that.

10:38So they actually, when the, the plane was diverted to the, the tubuck, air port and Saudi Arabia. And I guess the pilot, the pilot was well enough to land the plane because obviously they didn't ask the, they didn't ask the terrorists to be like, hey, now that we've got control of the cockpit, can you go ahead and land the plane force? Right. So they, Fair enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, I deserve this. BB saw a very valuable PR movement. So they pulled the hero as soon as the plane landed and they delivered him straight to BB. Blood soaked shirt and all. And here's the, here's the meeting of the two. This is a random dude. I'm not going to sell. I'm going to sell. I'm going to sell. Yeah. Yeah. Because you know, Zaka-Bud. Attack-Bud. Zaka-Bud attack-Bud. You're a traitor. I'm not. I'm not. We're the ones who are not. I'm a traitor. Zaka-Bud attack-Bud. I'm going to get out of here. You're going to get out of here. I'm going to get out of here.

11:38I'm going to get out of here. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Anyway, it goes on like that where they just congratulate each other. But what's really crazy is they then- What do you say at the beginning? Was he talking about the blood? Who's being right? Yeah, he was talking about the blood. He was talking about the blood and like, you know, amazing. Yeah. Here's a, here's a still picture of it. You can see all the blood on it. On him. And then BB sat down for an interview and he's like, let's, let's see those blood soaked socks. And he takes off his shoes. And he's showing him how this blood soaked socks right there. He was really right up in the mix. Yeah, he was, I mean, he's the good guy. He lost a shoe at some point. There's no way he went through the shoe. He scuffle. He lost a shoe and he was stepping around and blood. Yeah, true. It's crazy. That's a lot of blood. Yeah, that's what he's explaining, Mark. You're right. He's like, and that's when I lost my shoe. Check this out. Yeah. Look at how much blood. Yeah. Whose blood was it? The pilots, the co-pilot? Must be the pilots, right? Both the pilot and the co-pilot were taken to the hospital upon landing. So I guess they probably either beat the,

12:38beat the, beat the shit out of them or, you know, stabbed them too. But I think the most of the blood was the pilot's blood. Yeah. All blood from the cockpit. Yeah, a lot of blood in that cockpit. So from the Israeli times the, uh, Flyd you by was very silent about this. They finally put out a statement a couple hours ago saying. 22 miles. Oh, shit. This is, this is bad. This is bad. This is bad. Who put a terrorist on the Israeli route? He was silent. He was cold. Oh, no. It is crazy. They said that they want to make sure that the underlying reasons and motives are still unknown. We urge all parties to refrain from premature speculation while authorities gather the facts. So completely unknown. Oh, yeah. That's tough. That's tough for Flyd to Buy. Yeah. It's freaking nuts. Um, yeah. So I mean, hey, look, luckily this guy, this fucking nut job was, uh, you know, they,

13:42it was, it was, it was a, the guy's a hero. The guy is a hero. Yeah, he's a hero. Um, but pretty crazy. They just didn't even love changes, shirt or socks. Well, as you said, BB had, BB had to cash in. BB had to cash in. Yeah. He was like, do not let him change his. He's going to get hooked up though. How bloody are his socks? Yeah. Soaked. No, I tell him to keep his stiff socks on. He's going to take, he had to, he had to sit, no, the bloody ass clothes in extra two hours, but he's going to take the hottest shower in the penthouse. Oh, he's going to be some whores waiting for. I would imagine the highest level of that's where thing. Penthouse has courts. He's a little longer. But yeah, I mean, I don't know what they will. Well, sure. Yeah. If he, whatever he wants, then no, then he'll get great food in the penthouse. He gets whatever he wants. Yeah, as he should. Yeah. As he should. Yeah, it's huge. That's crazy.

14:42Yeah. But definitely alarming. Um, US officials didn't have much to say about it. They did a press conference. Uh, you know, they're, they're trying to get to the bottom of it too. So we'll probably learn more. Well, maybe a terrorist group will claim this guy. Maybe they won't. Yeah, but no one's claiming this guy. That's ridiculous. I'd be like, yeah, we are the worst terrorist group. Yeah. I mean, they didn't pretty good right up until the whole line. Yeah, this was a five year plan. We wasted millions of dollars. He learned how to fly a plane literally. How the, how the press is that terrorist group? We bought six planes. Yeah. Yeah. That guy. That hero pretty much broke that. Teracell. Yeah. It's fucked up. So look, glad. Maybe this is not for us. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking nuts. Could have been a lot worse. Could have been a lot worse. A lot more children with that. I want to fucking wants to fucking plane crash with everyone on board.

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22:03I love it. I love that one. Okay, got an interesting story for you today. It's right here where I'm sitting in Austin, Texas. It's kind of complicated. And it's going to have a lot of things we can discuss. So buckle up. Okay, this is James. Shell Hase and you might notice. He has a weird fit. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. He has a weird face and there's a giant man with massive arms. Yeah. Directly behind him holding up a pumpkin. It appears he's about to smash over James's head. That's exactly what it looks like. Oh, it's petta haunting. Yes. With pumpkins. Oh, petto, petto pumpkin smashing. Petto pumpkin smashing. It's mashing petta's. Oh, whoa. Okay. That's exactly what's going on. on pumpkin once straight to his head in fact 44 million people have seen him get knocked unconscious at this point from this video that's two years old from okay well pumpkins

23:03can be heavy now yeah that's on world star video it's not on YouTube anymore because it's been taken down and James shell haze was lured to a grocery store in HB grocery store in fact to get confronted by a group of predator or pedophile hunters right they love to do grocery stores they do like they like yeah that's their favorite place by far they do they do and also Chris hard gets target grocery stores Chris Hansen is being pulled into this because they're like accusing him now of being the predator and to catch predator are they yeah because of your documentaries like kind of negative about him no I think they're accusing him of of being an ambulance chaser not caring that people kill themselves and like going for the exactly not not he was more after the views and the fame they're saying then catch the predators they're not saying he's a predator yeah but he's also getting dragged into this petal hunting he is because he's because they're saying he's the OG he's the OG petal hunter he says they're saying the fame got to his head not the not the calls oh yeah and then now this yeah for real petal hunting this is petal hunting this

24:11is Chris Hansen 2.0 and this particular group of which there are many is called dads against predators so you got to be a dad you got to be against a predator you got to be a dad's predators dad okay well you know what I love the cause but then I feel like just murdering people that you that you you know you've investigated I guess personally I don't know how do they know how red handed are you yeah how sure are you how to keep what length are you going to entrap these guys I yeah and then and then if you go through with the full on murder you know that's a big that's big choice right so right right how aggressive you go with it how sure you and how aggressive big prime yeah I think they're I think you know once the guys shows up after sending dick picks to what he thinks is a 11 year old and then talking about you know fucking them that's so what's confident in what what what is there why are you agree with you then you can smash the pumpkin over his head but is that where it stops you just knock him out with that should yeah I mean I feel like that's fair you

25:14get you get it's pumpkin smash your head can knock out per dick dick pick it's like I agree with everything you're saying but you have a purge all the facts for this case and this particular predator group in general what you're saying I agree with you send dick picks thinking it's 2011 year old smash pumpkin over your head and also get arrested yeah for being a pet but uh so this was filmed back in September 2024 after two adult males chatted with James who is a former CEO that was making it $450,000 a year at the point and lowering him to an hb on Lakeway under the pretense that they were horny or susceptible minors I guess I don't know how many lawyers lower you yeah Lakeway the nice one lay a lakeways a prominent location around Austin yeah right and crowded yes like 150 people in the store saw this guy get knocked unconscious with the pumpkin damn so it's like but they were pretending to be high school chicks or high school no dude dude so I don't know how minors lower you tell them not into them but I don't know if they're they chat rooms are they like I'll be so parent listen there yeah yeah it's just like old school they did with on the

26:18catch up to catch a predator I'm gonna go to the hb on the bike yeah I'm getting on there now I'm almost there I'm so hot since there's no parents around maybe you can parent me I want why cooler so bad yeah fuck what when when when the catch predator first came out and we're in high school and my buddies and I would spend nights pretending to be kids and talking to a predator like predators online one of the goals of ours was to lure a predator to Dave Z's house and then tar and feather him that was a bad goal it never got it never got it never well we would talk to some people that were you know pretty fucking grot we had a voice of voice modulator and everything we were talking to these people it was it got pretty deep you didn't get anyone at the house we didn't get anyone at the house we thought better of it because we thought we might get murdered interesting yeah they beat the crap out of James and according

27:19to James costume to lose his high-paying job and dad's against predators is a brand that has a website that you have to pay to subscribe to see them beat up and expose pedals they claim they have added over 130 pedals they also have been linked to multiple suicides and banned from YouTube at a hundred K followers they were making too much noise but generally you'd think it would end there or with another suicide right like that's how it ends but not what James Shell haste two years he's almost the day later he's suing the owners of dads against predators Cameron Karnakam and Joshua Alvin Mundi he's claiming a number of things what do you think well bodily harm date you know outside of that yeah assault damage reputation yeah no yeah but he's claiming they did criminal things like extorted him set him up and then blackmailed him and that they're actually a criminal mafia ring he's saying that he was chatting with two adult men who identified

28:24as two adult men it was just gay and off just real gay chat and when they randomly pulled the bait and switch on him and said they were miners he stopped communicating oh he also did not release the messages yet to to to cooperate those claims but if he's going to take the court if he's going to take the court they'll come out he's just a closeted gay guy and they're trying to smear him as a pedophile he then says well the I guess the gay stuff maybe they start with the gays a little bit and then if they can't blackmail you for being gay and closeted they go to the pedophile thing that's where he said he then says that they were like oh come on don't ghost us talk to us talk to us meet us at the HB and that he yes went to the main meet him at the HB but he was already planning to go to the HB because because not only did he have to shine out come on not only they have to shop but he wanted to call them out on videos because he knew they were men and that he was going to video that oh he was gonna yeah sure he then instead got Molly walked

29:25but look at the size of the guys arms behind him oh my god by the mongoloid with the pumpkin you know there's a there's a there's a foot there's apparently a really fucked up scam going around where people are using zoom and they try to get you into a meeting it's like you know like a business meeting or whatever and as soon as you get on zoom they put up a bunch of fucking like child porn photos and then you're faces and your faces and then they extort you yeah yeah well so that's here here's where the racketeering allegations come in so far I'm like okay James maybe maybe not I don't know if I'm buying your story but after the assault he says that dads against predator sent his company the video which led to him being fired no more for $50,000 a year at CEO of United Lex illegal service and professionals are really that's a big time yeah and then he claims that they threatened to release it like more to the public like they were like hadn't posted it yet but they're gonna waste the public haven't told your wife your gay yet have you will read teller that's how he started he said but then he like oh you're okay with being

30:28gay or you're out well so now they said we'll show that you're a pedophile we do this video if you don't pass $400,000 and he said he's done some investigating and and there have been some other cases where this potential group and other potential groups do this to a lot of people yeah that's our saying at the start it's like yeah you you could be going way over the line for hundred well the over the line violence or over the line blackmail and maybe you're not maybe you're not certain but you've got them on video and you've got some chat kind of like how you lore them into a zoom room and there's pictures of pedophilia if you're chatting with adult men and then all of a sudden you're like on miners you can kind of edit the chats around and be like yeah I look to suck your dick adult man and then it's like oh the next kind of scam a miner yes so it sounds like these guys are also potentially scammers how how gay to pedophile is James we don't know he's definitely gay I mean he's willing to release the Kevin Spacey as a tweener I don't know he's an idiot that's for sure yes it sounds like it sounds like this group and other groups do this black

31:31male thing yeah a lot I can see it I mean yeah you can see these guys get cornered like by these like the really like you know upstarting pedophile hunters and they just corner them in a fucking parking lot and beat the shit out of them and then they're like you know either take your licks or we'll call the cops kind of thing but I can see totally see them just being like give us you know ten thousand bucks or we'll call the cops yeah extorting random dudes kind of yeah yeah as you know of the really all of the of your favorite predator hunters are on the up and up that is kind of fucked up that they also might just be extorting closeted gay men they're gonna know why they started they started causing a gay it's probably how it's not working they're gonna pedophile yeah it's a bigger pond it's a bigger pond to fish from you know like yeah right oh it's a bigger consequence that's for sure it's less risk you don't have to beat them up at the H.E. being do all that stuff and yeah yeah I just ruined in your life scam artists yeah there's

32:32some of these some of these groups maybe it's now this guy sounds like he was probably a pedophile because he did go to the edge right I'm sure that some of the guys are yeah if not he just went there yeah not to see the underage it's also kind of like maybe maybe they maybe they maybe these some of these groups fall into it for the love of the game because they hate pedophiles and then they realize then they can blackmail and they're like they already got this at what point does the does the cause get out the kind of like what happens with Chris Hanson in the movie I believe yeah haven't seen it but that's good that would happen to care at top because I know we tried to kill himself over some like yes he was extorted for being gay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah say we're cool with the character it's all good dude yeah apparently he's not cool with it yeah yeah but he might have been doing some like weird stuff too with it oh he caretop maybe yeah prop comic that guy gets brown tals crazy looking yeah is it is caretops to with this or yeah yeah he survived but but it was I think it was a legit attempt I mean then you know it was

33:33oh that was weird crack was it it wasn't he but he really broke it up about caretop I am he uh the guy the guy definitely sex-torted for gay stuff that's don't know how we don't know how gay that's not good but we're sorry I could believe caretop is just you know gay I mean you know who cares I think that the guy the guy probably had him doing some some funny funny business right yeah like not only gay but like in bears right over the caretops film better shown you know that's yeah worlds better with the happy do you have the video of the pumpkin smash by chance you want to look it up well well well well go a story do you want to look it up on put it play at the end yeah it's still online they said it's five million people have seen it we got ebombs world world star so yeah okay so speaking of world star uh groups that love world star fraternities okay uh hazing humongous in the news this week west we were talking about bark free hopped on uh to record he wasn't on the show

34:37but when we talked about the fraternity where were they at Wisconsin Wisconsin Wisconsin alpha epsilon pie the Madison uh they were like the they were like an unofficial but still a chart a chapter of that eight you pie and they had the rape basement that they had painted but they were really just doing normal hazing shit in there and it looked a lot worse because they just they're just hanging around for the hazing they painted their basement in like an Andrew Tate fantasy colors right and so that was the real problem with that situation not the hazing was less so it was just like hot and they were drinking mm-hmm yeah yeah they're doing like wall sits and getting yelled at and like food porn catch up at them and be like catch up chug you bitch normal shit normal hazing shit okay but then as you guys mentioned earlier in the podcast there was the Cornell 7 that came out in the middle of this week much worse uh way worse

35:38I promise we wouldn't talk about that so we won't moving on now closer to the end of the week still could be more still one day left but uh on Thursday we have another one and this actually happened you know maybe earlier in the week too it's just getting into the headlines more a fraternity at the University of Arizona and Tucson the Sigma Tao gamma chapter down there check out their house holy shit yeah it's like a fucking country club yeah it's like a scene out of a movie yeah yeah yeah what I don't these guys I don't know why they fucked this up but they did and I don't even think they did fuck it up because listen to what I think you think you think you think rival fratts called STD for sure they're STG yeah probably so STD fucking yeah probably so funeral disease yeah fuck yeah yeah you know how they get they get down uh well I don't think they actually did anything wrong the STGs uh in my opinion uh but college officials informed

36:39this that quote it has been informed them that quoted has been determined that your organization presents a substantial risk to members of the university community and they've suspended them because apparently during the fall of 2025 STG uh was subjecting their fraternity you know the the pledges to hazing that included screaming degradation and threats which is just normal hazing yeah and then also didn't have to define it we know and then also though on top of that at this forced to consume large quantities of alcohol hazing and and live goldfish interesting live goldfish yeah I wouldn't like that no everything's fine be five goldfish then we're all of it besides the goldfish like Will and I were talking about it before I would eat a live goldfish yeah but like

37:42on my own accord if I wanted to I don't want to smell of a goldfish bowl when they're swimming around on their own shit all day is so gross the smell is the texture yeah I'm gonna want to fresh bowl some fresh water uh but if it's fresh water and that thing hasn't shit in it too much just gonna slide right down it's all slimy yeah you don't really chew that's for sure just whoo whoop not not for me you would eat it like a fish eats another fish whoop right right literally like a bass no I don't think it would be challenging it would make me I wouldn't like that yeah I'm probably puking afterwards I mean imagine this you're taking a shot and chasing it with a goldfish that's basically what's going on here uh at STG which is to me dude that's not even that bad you guys it's how on the scale of someone told someone ratted dude it's just gonna make you puke worst case uh yeah it's I mean it's it's it's gross something you don't want to do but it's not like dangerous nothing bad yeah the alcohol is way more dangerous right yeah which I I guess I

38:48enjoyed the chugging but I would not enjoy the goldfish yeah and I made the baby they're saying that it's animal abuse blah blah blah blah come on yeah I mean yeah it's that's a but Mark and yeah you're the only former fraternity member here uh uh uh a legacy uh what's I mean do you think it's crackdown I think it's crackdown first of all I was I was I was the king of hell wake okay because because from a pledge perspective I didn't haze I wasn't a shiny badge they call them little bitches that that got they overhaze when they get in the fraternity I didn't do know that uh but I could chunk better than anyone I could eat whatever you saw me in a cat taco on on a stream here I the feed me man as ice cream and I'm I'm always finishing first place so I get to go and sit out when everyone else is getting haze I got I got like a bonus rewards right right you got MVP stats they called me super pledge you know what I mean yeah exactly it's not a problem I would have done the gold finish I wouldn't like yeah yeah I mean you probably

39:51would have kept it down too and so right and so I mean there you go I think that uh it's really not that bad and I think that this is a crackdown because this is this was just normal shit when we were in college yeah no one died uh I mean no there's no that's the thing I mean this in the Wisconsin one or what else seven horrible not news not news worthy oh one else seven everyone should know about that wasn't hazing that was just rape that's right that's totally different unless they're like pledge get in here yeah they kind of did I think yeah they did do that with this with the Snapchat uh it was not good uh really really horrible stuff uh and then um and but yeah but these ones eating live goldfish as hazing and then like being in a sweaty basement just because they painted it black and disgusting doesn't that doesn't mean that it was the hazing was that bad in Madison either like eating a live goldfish or being sprayed with ketchup in a sweaty basement both are just normal it just depends on how long it goes on for and how frequent it is if it's like

40:53a hell a hell we usually one week one week a year yeah yeah yeah physical abuse is not not cool but if you're like making them do like wall sits and spraying them with like beer and condom it's not physical but you sometimes like they're not like had only people and none of this is not cool no we're not like hitting anybody or yeah right outside of the cornhouse seven again horrible uh there's no sexual abuse happening here either uh so yeah uh so I think people need to just stop it with the crackdown whatever this crackdown is do you ever see that clip from Howard Stern where Steve swallows the lab goldfish and pukes it up and it's still alive I mean goldfisher do goldfisher resilient you could easily save most of the goldfish what if it shattered out and it's probably hard to do with that I think it presses yeah but a goldfish maybe you swallowed an condom of any fish you're with a worm or something yeah yeah worm maybe goldfish might I mean goldfish

41:53are tough they can make it and they suck so much that like when you put introduce goldfish and stuff everything else will just die because they show they're so nasty and they eat it so much and they suck so I can still smell the smell of my goldfish bowl when I was younger it's just so gross I wouldn't want to swallow any like fully alive animal but that's probably number one not that big a deal yeah I think I'm rather annoying little fish and it's like yeah fuck you goldfish it's sushi now and then you just eat it I would definitely rather eat the goldfish versus drink a bowl of goldfish like water goldfish do you rather eat goldfish way more yeah you don't want to drink their goldfish poop water oh gross so thousand times worse than just eating the goldfish yeah I got this a pumpkin smasher if you guys want oh yeah yeah yeah yeah okay here we go damn married man gets popped in the head with a pumpkin after allegedly trying to meet with a 14 year old boy okay that's

42:55allegedly true predator oh oh it didn't break no that's worse for him what's that man does your wife know you're out here trying to meet a little boy right now no I'm not with my does your wife know you're out here trying to meet a little boy right now James do you need me to get out he's talking like a gulping pet out James I'm gonna get real out your wife's gonna find out we can get this in the tech just you're gonna go outside hey I see you trying to delete shit right there you talk to little boy James James James jump brothers oh James this man's trying to pick up the little boy at the H.E.D first James first have James first have oh boy uh oh everybody at the office is gonna find out you like little boy walk by the pumpkin pass in yeah right there they paused why would you talk to a little boy like that I didn't talk to

44:00you were gonna take up you said you give my kids he's he looks like sure look at the giant skeleton yeah I was a they can't get close that way he's like a boxer can't get up and he goes out like that stay away from the little boys yes you understand you understand you can't meet up with little kids yes okay all right well that was for educational bosses YouTube uh just in case geez just covered his is there so I'm thinking yeah he's probably a peto and they also probably extorted him yeah that's a bad situation probably both well he wants to go to court so well that's gonna be bad for James yeah that's gonna be

45:06real bad for every well get me worse for James already lost the kid know okay you saw the video that's bad as it gets for James that's right back I was a CEO do you see how he like we like dopey he was speaking and stuff when he got oh he got fucking caught he was 13 year old boy his whole life that's what I'm saying the way he was talking seems to like he wasn't uh showing up there to uh no he wasn't trying to write a wrong yeah yeah he was in real control until he realized his life had just crumbled in front of his own eyes by his undoing yeah it was a tough situation for James and his lawyer sitting in a room somewhere they sure are and uh we'll keep you updated on that one because uh that's gonna be a trial worth following and yeah hopefully you know everybody out there is gonna have a much better day than James uh yeah hopefully have a great fucking day for you later yeah looking for a horror podcast that is in murder to get through then check out another ethink horror podcast our show were paranormal and true crime stories collide with unfiltered

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