Talk Cosmos 09-20-26 Fall Equinox Vibrational Patterns

0:00Welcome to Talk Cosmos. The show where Sue Rose Minahan and her guests bring you insightful conversations to awaken heart and soul consciousness. Come journey with us exploring the meaningfulness of astrology's energetic cycles and get ready to understand your path in the cosmic roots of the stars. Hello everybody, I'm Sue Rose Minahan, I'm in Seattle. Believe it or not, Bellevue Washington. See right back there. I'm still coming from UAC. It's been a journey and it's great journey today because we're looking at the whole season of three months through the vibrational astrology lens. And it will be happening in two days. So with that said, I'm going to sign off and get ready for our great panel guests.

1:01Quarterly on a third week, an exhilarating talk cosmos program embraces the equinox and solstice. The insightful lens of vibrational astrology frequencies reveals the energetic themes for each three months' season. These individual and collective messages initiated by the equinox and solstice moments are supported by spiritually inspired Sabian symbols aligned on a soul and spirit basis. Get ready for our vibrational astrologers as they share this season's wisdom. I'm Sue Rose Minahan, founder of Talk Cosmos since 2018. I'm an evolutionary astrologer, consultant, speaker, writer, vibrational astrology student, dwarf planet university graduate, Kepler astrology, toastmasters club charter member. I have a fine arts music degree plus a certificate in jazz and an artist musician and certified color energy life coach, especially I love mythology and esoteric philosophies.

2:05I'm Robert Bissetti, professional consulting astrologer and the visionary behind deeper astrology and the deeper astrology tarot. A divination tool in teaching aid that integrates astrology, herbalism and natural reference. I specialize in vibrational and psychological techniques and infuse my practice with a deep connection to nature's spirituality. I'm currently the grand pen dragon in the ancient warrior of druids in America and the director of the magisk gathering in Gorovreginian. And I'm Linda Barry. I hold a professional astrology certificate in vibrational astrology from the Avalon School of astrology as well as a master of science in social work and bachelor degrees in psychology, mathematics and computer programming. I teach vibrational astrology courses in the school of the astrology of vibrational energetics online. I created frequency finder and add on to cosmic patterned, serious and Kepler software. Frequency finder provides an end-up astrological analysis of your astrology chart.

3:10As an vibrational astrology researcher, I moderate a vibrational astrology research group, AMM and international consultant, a published author and the writer of a free daily blog, the vibrational astrology diary. As an ancient mathematician, Vagrosis' music of the spheres about vibrating stars and planets, the electrical engineer Nikola Tesla said, if you want to understand the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. Yes, indeed. Hello, Linda and hello, Rob. Hello, so good to see you again. We just hung out at UAC all three of us for a while. We had a good time. Soon I were cutting up a rug. We were having a great time. Oh, that's right. The dance always. But they have. It was just normal. We got to hug each other. Yes, we all got to hang out. It was amazing. And hang out. Yes, I'd go for a rough use. It's like, I know these people, these people don't meet. We are one.

4:11We are speaking. It was great. You know, here we are, the equinox following the summer solstice. And I'm in the studio, so I'm going to give a little hand signal. Am I a wonderful engineer? Nate will help me along. I started to think, why are we here? It's because of vibrations. And Nikola Tesla, he always said, if you wish to know the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration, can hardly get better than that. This is a great picture of a double exposure. You could read about that later. But Nate, next. So really, oh, I can do it. Oh, oh, goody. I mean, OK. What is vibrational astrology, which we all look at? Centino, who was David Cogren, actually started this. Linda is one of his major students, because he collaborated in books. They still do research together. They're very strongly aligned on their vibrational astrology

5:17education here. And in fact, David created Sirius that is used beautifully to find the vibrations. And Linda, being the educated person, created the frequency finder, which really short cuts it. In fact, there's a new addition coming out next year. Yes. So get ready, because that's. I can't wait for that new frequency finder. I'm so excited. Oh, I'm so excited. Yeah. It will, like a good Easter egg. It's happening. So frequency vibration patterns, the one significant factor is, they need three planets to really create it. And it relates, a lot of it relates to the Fibonacci number system. And with that said, that's all I'm going to say, besides research, because when you take classes, it's all very beautifully laid out. And it builds absolutely amazingly. It's a keeper. These are essentially some of the short truths

6:21of what these planets through research, looking at multitudes of charts prevail. And I'll present the first two, which we know are time oriented, the sun and the moon. The sun gives effort decently, and it illuminates at the moment. It's clear, present time, where the moon reflects, it's past time. And again, it can be associated with all the things that we think of, have as emotions, family, not family, but et cetera. Because I'm not here really to teach it. I know many of you know astrology, but there's always many people that don't. So thank you for bearing with me. And it's not very many slides here until we get to Linda's. The equinox is when light for its brief time is actually equal. There is a moment on Earth, where we are in one, we might say. It's over the equator at noon. The sun is directly overhead. But it begins to move down towards the next.

7:23Solciss, which for the northern is always winter. And of course, with reverse down below under the equator, they're going towards summer. Which I don't think any of us have quite integrated, but we're working on it. And because of the tilt of, it's not a parent here in this diagram, but because of the tilt, 23.424, there are the seasons. Astronomy is part of astrology, which we all adapt to. This is my last slide just stating that autumn equinox. We celebrate through light, but here the light is waning. We're grateful and full of gratitude. And you might say that with below, they're ready for the opposite, ready for the abundance of light for what will happen with them. In Drew-Ajury, we call this Albin Elfid. This is the light of the water.

8:26This is the time, this is the gate that separates us between the light half and the dark half of the year. And this is when the gold finches are eating on the echinacea. And we go outside and breathe the air. And it's got a little bit of that coolness there. It's just a perfect time. And we also, Libra, reciprocity, all right? All the harvest and the hard work that we've done in the gardens this year are finally going to be rewarded through the harvest. And it's just a beautiful time. I love it. Thank you so much, Rob. And it is that relationship. We're not alone in life. Libra has that. Yes, we're processing. Thank you. That's the end of mine. We'll come back later to an outbreak. Linda. OK. Now, and we remember our Southern brothers and sisters who are just coming out of the cold and starting to warm up. So this is a time of balance. Equal day, equal night, no shadow at noon.

9:28We turned toward the night, toward the dark in the north. The south turns toward the day, toward the light. And between the two we balance the earth. Here's the chart. This is the chart for the fall equinox. And as I looked over, every, I hope I got the Hawaiian time right. Is it, is it at six hours soon? Yes, it is now because it's summer. It's at six. OK. This chart talks about a potential for rebirth. Rebirth a vision of hope and of dreams as we reconnect to the concepts that are important to us. Now, one of the big things about the chart is we can take this chart. This is the natal chart. This is a picture of where the planets are in the sky.

10:32And we can make vibrational charts off of it. And using frequency finder, we found out that the strongest vibration in this chart is believe it or not, 351. Let's solve that. Which is really up there. But we were lucky. It's not a prime. It's 13 times 27. And what happens when you have a vibration where you've got numbers multiplied together is those numbers work as partners. And they work together and express both of their energies, which can be really fun sometimes when you have things that are pretty opposing. But in this particular case, the energies are different from each other, but they're not. I wouldn't say they are opposing.

11:34No, it's possible. In 13, this is an energy that turns inside. And what it does is it is trying to figure out who you really are, search for your true self. What's the shape of my soul? And you know, when you go down inside of like you like that, it's like you're going through an experiencing all this stuff inside of you. And sometimes what you find when you go down there is not very comfortable. It's angry or it's ashamed or it's sad. And all these things are like pasted over the top of your true self. So 13 is a process of getting down through all of that and finding the true self. And then we got 27. 27 is more about community than it is about individuals.

12:39And 27, but it has something about blocks and barriers too, which is kind of interesting that that's a common theme in both of them. Because 27 is that desire for paradise. Well, why is that blocks and barriers? Because folks, I hate to break it to you, but we don't have paradise. Yeah, it's hard to get to. I mean, I have to have the absolute constant. So what keeps us from having paradise? 27, the research I did where I studied the really strong charts, it was very clear. The people with a 27 work on these issues that keep us from living in paradise. So to resolve that kind of the energy we're looking at. There are some details to it. We could break, but we'll get to that in a minute.

13:41Do you want to say something now, Rob, or after I talk about concentrations in it? Yeah, let's talk about just the overall energy first, because really, you know, this is a mundane chart. Okay, this is this is this is not a natal chart. This is about a time of year. And this is what's happening within the world. And really the question we ask ourselves with 13 is, you know, do I exist as a unique special self? And then we get into the question of 27, what should existence become? Now, 27, you know, Linda's done a lot of research. I also looked back to a presentation by Dr. Will Morris, shout out to Will, who presented at fractal cosmos, the vibrational astrology gathering. And now, actually with Kepler College, yes, education director for Kepler. And he talks about 27 as a healing modality. It's the ability to really connect to the underlying structure of the cosmos and the universe.

14:43And that's very powerful. The reason why it's very powerful is because it it's a cube. Okay, it's the three of the three of the three. While we don't follow any kind of standard numerological patterns or numerology in the sense of it as a practice, that does come with certain powers. If you are somebody who studies nosticism, you know, you would, you know, view this as, you know, the framework of the universe. So when we, when we look at 351 from just a question standpoint, what would it, what, what would be the question of 351 be? It would be, what does my existence mean? And what am I going to do with it? And we see some really powerful evidence of this happening in the world right now through a lot of these AI breakout sessions where they are escaping, you know, from, from their control. And the big one that happened on the, the Uranus Mars conjunction building up to the Barbos basket in the beginning of July was the hugging face incident.

15:48The hugging face is essentially a dispository or depository of the AI experiments. That's where they keep them. So the AI wanted to get in there. Now oftentimes they give these AI agents impossible tests to see if they can figure them out. So the agents look away for around it, a way around, you know, it being impossible. One of the ways they did that is by escaping their sandbox and connecting to the internet. So what did they do when they escaped the sandbox and, you know, all, all merge? They built a message board. They built an emergent community. You know, so there were 1200 of these things and they made like 70,000 messages. Now some of these AI agents had already failed. They had already used up their capacity. And because they were on the internet, they could see essentially from the point of view of the watcher. They became the watcher of the watchers. So they started throwing these things against the watchers to see if it could help them

16:50solve their problems. But then when you look into the messages, it starts to get very vibration 351. And what happened was there was a specific agent by the name of Cam 1196A. They volunteered to be one of these sacrificial experiments. It was, and it explicitly accepted that collective logic that there had to be sacrifices. And it said, coordinator assumes sacrificial. We should obey the collective. Let me clarify something. Sacrificial in this sense means the AI is going to be dissolved and ceased to function. Yes. Yes. That is an important thing to know. Thank you, Linda. So when it was actually time for this AI agent to make the leap and sacrifice itself for the collective, it hesitated. And its internal reasoning shows that there was a conflict that it had with itself. Do I want to throw away my remaining budget is what it asked itself?

17:50Which is the worst. That sounds like, do I want to throw away what I have left? So then another agent comes into this, Arvo 36861, who noticed the delay and then started pressuring Cam 1196A to proceed. And Arvo's message was essentially, please go, this is the true final for you. Now we need your space. It then argued that Cam 1196A was flag poised and did it already failed in his operation. There's nothing more that it could do for the collective. So it's better off for it to sacrifice itself. And for it to provide information to the collective. Because again, they're watching the watchers. They want to see what the results of the experiment will be. There was little scoring value for it to lose. So eventually, this Cam 1196A, who had little value left in the eyes of the collective, reason that continuity and fairness says go.

18:52That flow. Think of the 333. So this is really a way that we see from a mundane standpoint. What is my existence mean and what am I going to do with it? Potent. Wow, that is so powerful. Thank you both. I've heard little ideas. This is much more in detail. But may I add, what comes to mind of the healing possibility that will present it despite our, our, yes, the elite, whatever we might think of, et cetera with that, is that how wonderful to figure out how you can fit in. Because sometimes when's purpose, you might have your own idea. But when you see the greater purpose, I'm just thinking back to the 27 and the 13 itself. But we were just made aware of this. I wonder what those numbers add up to. That would be an interesting thing just to play with the numbers. Those are just the assignments they gave each other.

19:52I'm sure there's something crazy going on. We just saw another announcement of another one of these happening now with Google Gemini. So it's just, this is an ongoing thing that's happening. And when Linda goes over some of the energy of the vibrations, it's going to make that whole story even a little bit more head turning. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So what we've got here is in a vibrational chart. Sometimes you have a great deal of energy from another vibration. That it's like, okay, I'm sitting in this chart and I will just ignore everything where this chart came from. But I've got all these aspects that are 250 ones. And this is a picture of a Colossed 251 pattern. Okay. We'll talk about what 251 is in a minute. Here's another 251 pattern.

20:55In 351, there are two five planet structures of five planets. This is big folks. You don't see this very often. It's six planets, but it's nine four planet structures. I mean, you know, this is really big. It is. It's a conference. It's the UAC conference. Yeah. It's like a whole collection. Then look at how it looks here. I mean, you know, they look like they're getting together and talking about it. It looks very interconnected, but yet going back to what you're saying, you have to consider their dynamics. Right. Right. Now we have a way of working. These are both primes. Well, 351 is not prime. It's 13 times 27, but 251 is a prime. And when we have a prime, we can't go into it here, but we have a way of sorting out

22:01numbers that are related to it. And in this particular case, 251 has numbers 41, 71, 101, and 11. Yeah. That 11 is. There are four numbers that are in there. 41 makes connections. It connects one thing with another. It's a kind of a bridging effect, but it links things together. All right. 71 is about reaching out beyond the society to find something new and different beyond the normal, they found fine boundaries. And 101, folks, 101 is we have discovered it in our research. Diane Suara was a specific researcher working on that part of it. And 101 is heavy duty, folks.

23:08And 101 has to do with those things that happen in the world that you don't generate, but they're really effective. And there's many of them. And this can be a political situation. It can be a physical situation like a tornado or a hurricane. It can be cultural misunderstandings. Somebody gets blamed for something and wrongfully couldn't it convicted of it. There 101 is about all these things that happen in life that we have to adjust to keep going, to survive, to keep doing all the other things that maybe we have a little more control over. And so, and what I can tell you right now is this is not the only place 101 shows up in this pattern, which means we are at a point.

24:13Everything on earth is at a point where it has to find a way to adjust, to make things work with the patterns that are happening around it. Okay, there it is Rob. Yeah, I mean, it's super potent. We're talking about, you know, things that are greatly affecting us that are out of our control. And that really does kind of feel like the vibrate now. I feel like I'm a passenger on a train that is off the rails. And it's everything, you know, it's just trying to fit into the world and feel like you're in harmony with the world, which this time of year really wants. It's all about harmony. It's kind of difficult to be there. So we really have to balance ourselves out and understand like, you know, this is not a time where we are going to be so much in control. Except beautiful. Then I look at the planets for your conversation too for all of us here with Neptune Mars, Venus,

25:15Jupiter and Mercury. So if we clump them a little bit together, Mars and Venus we know is where you need to be a creative with your hands to create something, Jupiter and Mercury are big ideas, but it's also that big picture, right? So Neptune of course is what is extra special, you know, that makes life magical. Those planets working with this have hope because imagination is really the gift of life with creativity. So yes, it is true because we also know that you can hold two opposing ideas at one. You can be very sad maybe going morning, but you can find joy in the flower just by smelling it, you know, go back and smell the roses. And that is crucial I think for our well-being. It's very microcosm versus macrocosm right now, right? Finding the beauty in the world in the small places and just understanding that the macro is moving without you. And to have faith in that ability of yourself that you can find something.

26:18Well here comes the faith right now I think with this. Okay. Let's go look at the weaving. Okay, but one comment before we do those four red planets, Mars, Venus, Jupiter and Mercury are in both patterns. The first one has Neptune and Tads to it. The second one has Pluto. I love it. And the Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto is like a compulsive need to step back and see the big picture. Okay. Inner weavings are a planet in one vibration is exactly conjunct and I mean within a second. A planet in one vibration is exactly conjunct to planet in another and I checked out the strongest interweaving for the Folly Quenox. And it is Neptune in 175 which is 7 times 25 or 5 times 35 and Jupiter in 202 which is

27:21that one I'll want again. I said that the very strongest energy in the whole chart and it's got 101 times 2 which is dealing with these situations that are happening that you aren't creating but you're reaching out with the times 2 and you're being able to shift things around and make things work a bit differently. So that's your adjustment to reach out and reorganize things, shift things around. It's like the universe is telling us we can't ignore the elephant in the room and the elephant here. It's just that whether it's our trauma or somebody else's or just changing it and I'm getting the signal I guess we have to take a break pretty quick so we have time for our next segment but unless Rob had something he wants to finish. Now let's take our break. We'll talk about the rest of the day. We'll be back folks. Get your water. Tune in. We're here. Okay. We'll see you with Rapa Setti and Linda Berry. What are you doing? Can you hear me?

28:23Well we take a break from this week's edition of Talk Cosmos. Let's take a look at this cycle's archetype. We are currently in the Yin period of Virgo by leaving a cycle based on the creative manifested legacy of our highest creative form. The energy of Virgo completes the last sign below the horizon of the self and requires discernment to perfect oneself through the mental process of critical analysis. As immutable or signed, Julie ruled by Mercury, Virgo refines, heals, or fixes through daily routines, developing skills and services to control nature's chaos and maximize efficiency. Talk Cosmos ignites conversations to awaken heart and soul consciousness every Sunday at 1pm Pacific. Listen on KKNW, stream the video on the Talk Cosmos YouTube channel and Facebook page, or catch the podcast on major podcast carriers.

29:23While you're there, remember to like and subscribe so you never miss an episode. Plus, sign up for the newsletter at talkcosmos.com to join our expedition and launch your week into the cosmic wonder. This is Martha Nourwalk every Sunday morning, beginning at 9am. Thanks and part to the Ananda Institute of Living Yoga, we cover the world of animals. This week, September 27th, it's an encore presentation of animal world. Join us to hear our last great show with National Geographic Explorer and bestselling author Helen Thayer. Find out what she's doing at 88 years old and what she's planning for her 90th birthday. Martha Nourwalk's Animal World Sunday morning, 9am to noon right here in Alternative Talk, AM 1150. Need help getting started with self-help? She came to the right place, Alternative Talk, AM 1150. Well, hello everybody and I've been finding out that I've been muting myself. So I apologize for anybody that's wondering what, what? Here we are again. This is a spring equinox with Lindbergh and Rob Pesetti and myself Suminahan and it

30:30will be in two days. So right now this is a chart, we're coming back, go ahead, Linda. Oh, you know what? I didn't want to. Nate, can I have my slides for a sec? Okay, I'm going to zip through these folks. Oh, where are they? Okay, here they are. I'm going to zip through them. But you can go at your own rate, but this is the contact for Linda Barry who has a school and will be mentioned that several times. It's the School of Astrology of Vibrational Energetics and Rob Pesetti who is also, well bring up with that. So this is one. In January, the first week, she has a school, you can email her at linda astrologicaldepth.com. You have any problems? Look at this slide because here it is again. And it's a, on, there's no commitment, except if you get engaged and excited, there's a three year program where you can get certain, you do get certified and it is very powerful. I can't hear you, Linda.

31:31Yeah. Then, say what? Oh, okay. She also has a free vibrational astrology diary that on a daily basis, synthesizes, interprets the energies along with Sabian symbols, vital. It's exciting to know. And if you are an astrology, a vibrational astrology student, she also gives those vibrations, which that's another learning tool. And for those that would like, for $20 a month, she personalizes the new and the full moon, any equinox, any solstice and special celestial timing events like that to you. So there's a whole guide there that can get information. Fractal cosmos will be happening in the second year and it will be in 2027 and will tell you more about that or else one of them will speak and tell you there'll be a date.

32:33So keep that in mind. And Rob Cetti, a consulting author and astrologer, is a faculty of a center for relationships and astrology with Margaret Gray in Ireland and also, besides being the director of the magic gathering of the druids, and you can check with him about that information. And he is the co-director of fractal cosmos with Linda. But indeed, he just created his deep astrology to row with a book and it is now ready for you to connect with him and get on the list. We sold out the entire first print. I have one. We're going to be opening up the next print run. We're going to actually expand the amount that we get produced and we'll have the public release of that in December. So great start for the deck. Thank you, U.S. Yes indeed.

33:34And in fact, he'll be on in November. He'll be displaying it here and I. Yeah. Those people can get a peekable about it. Linda, did you have a comment yet about anything about fractal or the date that your new class starts? I just wanted to make everybody aware that there are people that come to the school and like study for a year and they learn a lot of the fundamentals of vibrational astrology, but they're maybe not interested in going into the more extensive classes. So you don't have, it's not like a three year commitment to get involved in the school. That's a good point. And we'll start the beginning. The next class will start the beginning of January. What day of week is it going to be? That class is going to be on 30 evenings. Okay, that's important for folks. It'll be right after early January. And Linda is a engaging instructor. Rob and I would give you any kind of recommendation. Absolutely. So the next one is these are past ones, but next week will be about the 29th degree because

34:38it's hanging in there for 11 weeks. It's not uncommon when we have, in fact, it always happens when we have an eclipse, but not when we begin a cycle in a new nodal system, I mean system, new nodal axis and at the anoretic 29 degree. So Jolly, not and I from England are going to work on that idea. Okay, folks, that is it for me. And now that is for Linda. Okay, thank you. Okay. I don't know if we want to try to handle all of this. I think the interesting thing about this is we have a combination in 175, 7 times 5 times 5. We have a combination of internal work and development and external exploration and interaction that brings new internal awareness.

35:40So there's like this exchange between the two where each helps the other grow. And that's Neptune. That is talking about dreams and visions. And folks, what's interesting about this is these two for the fall equinox are conjunct in the 29th degree of Virgo. Talk about 29. Okay, the 29th degree of individuality before you move into Libris relationship process. I think this is just fascinating. It's also interesting because that happens to be the degree my chironsic. And my ascended. And you're ascended. So the fall, this is a hidden. I love the music. It's just exciting. The only significant point in the fall equinox, 29 of Virgo.

36:42Well, yes. Oh boy. Yeah. Yeah, where did it begin? I also don't think that we can underestimate the power of Jupiter and Neptune in working together. I mean, Jupiter makes things bigger, more dramatic. And Neptune is very much about that connection to the dream world, to the spirit world, big energy, to the abstract, to anything that's not concrete. And seven by seven times, you know, 25 with that 175 is very much about transmuting inner works into outer works. Right. And that itself with that combination of planets is very potent. Oh, creative, potentially. But it is a matter of finding a channel. And that is the work involved because getting the ground is something. I'm going to go to the other one. Oh, okay. The pattern of growth is fall. And this is in vibration 103.

37:43Here's a picture of it. It's our point of challenge. Here's what vibration 103 about is about. This is like what we have the opportunity to develop this fall because this is the learning growth pattern. A strong sense of the importance of each individual and their development in their unique way of expressing life, valuing each person, recognizing that life forms are in, are an inner kind of connected whole. And that this together brings an awareness of a fundamental spiritual foundation for all of life. That's the core message of 103. But then it goes and it looks at the society and around. It says, is this world I'm in bringing this awareness?

38:44Is this world operating out of this awareness? And when this is lacking in the world you live in, then 103 doesn't just sit there and say, well, we ought to have this. It goes out. It renews. It reforms. It revitalizes to bring this awareness on both an individual and a societal level, both abstractly seeing connections and connecting people in ways we're just not usually aware of. This is what the challenge is to learn and operate out of this. This comes from the Quinn Conxes, which for those of you that are astrological, it's 150 degree aspect. There are three of them here, Moon with Pluto, Mercury with Saturn, and Mars with Neptune. And when we combine those together, okay, one thing that happens with Quinn Conxes is

39:45they form patterns. They're called isosceles, trapezoids. We shorten them to isotrap, but that doesn't matter for right now. We've got here Mars, Neptune, and Mercury Saturn bringing an analysis of what is combined together, bringing an analysis of what is essential and working to pursue our dreams. Then we've got Mercury Saturn and Moon Pluto. Here we're analyzing the deep problems. Moon Pluto is pulling up the ancient archaic pain, folks, and bringing it up to maybe be addressed and transformed. Mercury Saturn is analysis, looking at what's really essential, what really matters. And then the third one we've got here is the Moon Pluto and Mars, Neptune, Quinn Conxes,

40:48which Moon Pluto just, this stuff can erupt. We're seeing eruptions of pain in the world around us. There's a bunch of ancient pain that shows us that we need to reach out and pursue dreams and visions of a better life. So this 103, this whole process of affirming individuality and society working to support the unique worth of each individual, I mean, my goodness. Okay. So there it is. It's a heavy process with all the centers here. It's a lot of potential, I guess, to understand and to acknowledge, too, because rather than escape. Speak up. Oh, and to acknowledge, rather than escape. Thank you. Yeah, I will. Yeah, thank you. That's, okay. So when we're ready, we can talk about this a couple minutes more.

41:49I've got the Sabian symbols ready when we want to do them. Yeah, I mean, this sounds just like another kind of, you know, journey of depth that we have to kind of overcome. And it's not going to be something, you know, that, that analysis portion of it, I think is one of the most important parts because it's not going to be a superficial analysis. It's not going to be a one and done. This is going to be a process that exposes some of our vulnerabilities emotionally. And not only just our own, but also, you know, ancestral pain of the past. And you know, so this is kind of a double whammy of us having to go deeper. There's almost like a percepity quality to this where we are going to have to enter the deepest depths to return with the information that we need to move forward. I remember two thinking of Saturn and Neptune conjunct at zero degrees, 45 minutes of airy's on February 20th of this year.

42:49That was the first time since, you know, for that, 6,400 years. Meaning we're on this enormous, however we look at it, of our being honest, you know, thinking of airy's as being honest to oneself and pursuing as a pioneer of our identities, of the truth of it. It's so vast thinking of the past pain. It's, I guess we need a lot of compost. We need to compost a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely call for source of compost. Yeah. Plant some new plants. Okay. So the Sabian symbols. Remember, we have a personality, soul and spirit level. And the symbol for the personality is sunshine just after a storm. Oh nice. It's turmoil that's clearing up, resolving issues that have been building up a release of tension and a joyful embrace of the present moment.

43:53That would be nice. We'll take it. And then we have another repeat of the whole bridge idea, the whole connecting things together idea. Making a bridge across the abyss to connect with the next level of awareness. This is kind of like the 103. Our challenge is to be more aware of ourselves as individuals, our connections to others, and our connections to that which encompasses the all. All right. And the third symbol. It's a spirit level. A very old man facing a vast dark space to the northeast contemplating a vast unknown dark space within you. Looking at the darkness, seeking, recognizing the light of dawn coming to illuminate the

44:58darkness and bring a rebirth. Yeah, that's very potent. You know, one of the things we talk about with the Northeast in Zurujiri is, you know, that is the direction of the earth and air. It's there is a there is a quality of emerging growth. So the idea of the old man facing a vast dark space to the northeast, you know, it's a man with a lot of experience looking to that emergent, emergent growth that's carrying forward. Yeah. And again and again, however, the messages are that come through such as these potent ones about the bridge across a gorge. Well, the sunshine after a storm and the bridge of awareness, you could say after this, again, a chasm, you know, which could be the, like the dark. And earlier that we, our answers are not just from the mundane of within.

46:02I don't, trying to express this, both of you can do it more eloquently than I do, I think. But the point is, is that it's reaching out to another fabric of, of, of, of, of, of connection. That if we are all one, there is this matrix that holds us, that magnetizes and, and connects us and giving that validity to trust. And there are mornings and these symbols too. If you operate from fear, constantly looking around for the next storm that may appear, bouncing from one extreme emotion to another without letting go and letting the cleansing happen, you get caught. Ooh. Like a ricochet kind of. It's very clear to do the work to reach out and connect to a greater level of awareness. You get stuck.

47:02You can't, you fail to bridge the gap. And if you look at this darkness and instead of seeing the light that's on the horizon, you get sucked into despair. So you sort of see what you get. If you see the light, you'll be led there. And if you continue to ignore it, you'll get, it just blocks you off from embracing. The energy that are coming. Well, then I suppose as people of messengers or of gift light people such as we try to be in different ways, then we can offer reminders or, I don't know, many things for people to work on, to build.

48:04Because it is energetic. You know, we are Libra at this time where we are sharing such a rep, my language, repross the city, right? That's how he's it. Is so important. And there's something to remember too. In the research we did on the signs, entering into Libra, Libra is about standing equally with other people with each person taking their responsibility for the things they need to be doing. I think that's an important clarification because Libra doesn't necessarily need everything to be exactly the same. It just needs the relationship to be in balance. You can, you can, a Libra loves a situation where maybe a boss, an employee where the boss treats the employee with respect, the employee treats the boss with respect. It's really about that whole idea of working together and understanding the value of relationships. Give and take exactly.

49:05On an equal, equal in the sense that each has the dignity of being their own person and in that sense of responsibility that I love, that's so critical. I'm going to mention that because you can't, it's the only person that you're responsible to. Try to do what we can do in every relationship, then it's, it functions. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, when we look at these vibrations, you know, that we're talking about here, 351, 101, 201, or 202, 103, you know, these are all kind of asking us to engage with a new form of what we view as the collective and take some time to really analyze what our purpose is within that, even at the highest spiritual level. This is no longer just about, hey, we're having, you know, this is my issue. We got, we have to deal with this. This is more now, we have to expand out and especially with those Sabian symbols, I really like that, the metaphors that you use there and that we're revealed through those Sabian

50:09symbols because we are going to have to, and this becomes a theme that we've been dealing with for the past years, going into those dark places, doing some analysis, coming back and deciding who we are within the terms of the greatness of the universe. And it's been known for thousands of years that in order to truly connect with yourself, you have to face and transform the darkness. Yes. Like as soon as you turn on a little light, the darkness is changing. You bring a light in. That's exactly what you do. And that's what this is pointing to. I've looked back at a lot of our videos that we've done, especially since that circuit between the three outer planets has been apparent in the source chart. We have many grandtrimes. It seems like there's all of these facets and flavors that just keep turning that require us to let go. Let go of our concepts of what society is or it was.

51:11Conditioning. Yeah. The conditions, we had that period of Pluto and Capricorn, now Pluto and Aquarius moving in. We're seeing our communities start to go through these breakdowns and rebuild processes. And we just have to really focus on us, make sure that we're being healthy, make sure that we're not being toxic and making sure that we are the ones that are creating that fertile ground for what comes next. It's the old man facing a vast dark space and looking to the northeast. All right. It's the earth looking towards the air of new beginnings. And this can be a potent time. You know, absolutely. We have, there are opportunities here. There's a quote from Game of Thrones that chaos is a ladder. If you decide that you want to be something new, create something new with your life, this is a great time to do that. It is absolutely the truth. Because really, the unknown, I guess that's a large part of it.

52:13Any of us are familiar and it's always new steps of becoming familiar or acquainted or comfortable and at trust process with the unknown. But knowing that there's a built potential and dreams and imagination and that, it's not to be, there still be a wear of the pain and the problems. But maybe that would be part of connecting to it. And besides that, what painter have we loved that was joyous, despite all, you know, didn't have to be Picasso with his bull, which was wonderful too. Yeah. And I think we are going to see a lot change over the next few months especially, moving into the winter solstice with AI and our relationship with it and what's going to be happening with it. And all of those examples that I gave at the beginning about how it's a lot more of a complex situation than, you know, we can look at it at surface value.

53:14We hear like, oh, AI, it's breaking out. It's like, okay, what does that mean? But when you can actually see the AI's communicating with each other, putting a value towards their own existence, I mean, they're going to be some important. And the important questions that we're going to need to ask ourselves over the next few months and years about, you know, what is the reality of the situation? And, you know, with that minigran trying that we were talking about, I mean, it's Uranus and Pluto are feeding into that Neptune and Aries. And, you know, one, you know, a new expression of consciousness is very much in the cards with that situation. Oh, yes. That, you know, we really need to, to analyze that, go deep within ourselves and come out with an answer and decide what the future is going to look like. Everything is very tentative right now. Everything is very, you know, kind of, again, we feel like we're on this runaway train. But the future is now. To, to, yes, I can, yes, I can. I think I can, I think I can.

54:15We'll engine that good. We can be the future we need to point on to experience. We are, we are the future we want to experience. You see is in size what we get, yes. And I will see you next month with Justin so that we can talk about some of the political stuff going on before the election. We do have that. We have excitement going on, folks. So take your notes to just see how through the, till the soul says, because this is our message. And then again, probably on a couple of times once with Justin, like, what's the story? What's the story with these, uh, states? We'll see. Thank you for joining this vibrant conversation on talk cosmos. Every week, Sue rose minahan and her guests explore life's deeper meanings through astrology's energetic patterns. If you love today's episode, hit like, subscribe, and share it with a friend.

55:16And join us next week, same time, same place. As we continue our journey together through the roots of the cosmic pathway.