DAMTT-Breakfast, Drag, and Radiators

0:00Don't ask me to talk. And welcome, welcome, welcome to yet another exciting edition of Don't Ask Me to Talk. I'm one of your podcast pals. I'm Eric Reiner. Hey, I'm your other pal. I'm Stacy Heller and I'm in a good mood today. This is two weeks in a row. At two weeks in a row of good mood? Yes, I think last week I was in a good mood. And I'm in a good mood again. It's crazy. I'm excited to be chatting with you, of course, as always. And we got an email this week. So I want to talk about that later. So it's always good to know that our email works. Yes. So speaking of, we should just give that off right off the bat. So folks can get in touch. It's asking at Don't Ask Me to Talk.com.

1:03Real easy. So if you've got questions or topic suggestions, we'd love to hear from you. Or if you totally disagreed with one of our hot takes or totally agreed with one of our hot takes, we love hearing that feedback. Well, and let's say, I don't know, you want to be a sponsor? I mean, we keep talking about how we need sponsors, whether it's mattresses, pillows, dentists, so that you can get a deal on all your fricking dental work. I mean, we're open. I mean, I won't sell my soul for anything. I mean, I do have beliefs in everything. However, I could probably be bought. I'm just saying, by the way, speaking of that, you know how you had this great idea of having

2:04an app that rates pillows at different hotels and things? Oh, yes. Perfect. So not just the pillows, but the mattress as well. So I think this is a brilliant idea, just so you know. And when I was at the bed and breakfast that we stayed in this past weekend, shout out to the Brewster House bed and breakfast in Freeport, Maine. Yeah, because you were making your way back from all your East Coast travels here. Yes. Last time we would talk to you, you were in, I think it was Mystic, is that right? That's correct. Good memory. Yeah, so I was in memory. I was in Mystic visiting with my in laws. And of course, that involves sharing memories and then headed to Maine. So we stayed at the Brewster House, Kelly and Dave. Mystic morning memory. I think it's Misty morning. No, I know, but you're in Mystic.

3:06You're saying memories. You're right. You're right. You're right. Anyway, let me give my shout out to Dave. Have you heard this show before? I know. You know what? I took my meds today, so I'm slightly focused. Anyway, the bed and breakfast where we stayed, it's kind of a funny thing. We stayed at this bed and breakfast, Kelly and Dave are the proprietors. They're lovely. They've been doing this for years. And a bed and breakfast is always a weird thing to me, because it's like you're sort of staying in someone's home and try as they might, for me, it just always feels awkward. But they do an amazing job. And we had a room that had an adjoining room for our son, Will, who was going to be joining us. And it was awesome. The best part though?

4:07Holy sh**. Yeah, I just said that. The breakfast. Now, the funny thing about the breakfast, obviously, it's a bed and breakfast. But the breakfast, we got a note from them saying, hey, do you have any allergies or any dietary restrictions? We're like, nope, we're good. And then they said, do you have anything that would potentially prevent you from eating breakfast? And I was like, OK, guys, like what? Right. Like, slow your roll. Like it's whatever. And so I am thinking, well, I mean, I might. But wait, did they listen to the episode where you said that breakfast was overrated? Well, I hope not. And then so maybe they're like, well, maybe she's got a problem with breakfast. Well, yes. So they're like, hey, half of our name is breakfast. And so, therefore, do you have anything? And I'm thinking, I don't know. I might sleep late. I'm not hungry.

5:09Who can predict these things? So I answered, not really. We're good, other than lack of appetite. And so we get there. And once again, we're given the tour. It's lovely. They help us with our bags, the whole thing. And we're told that breakfast is between eight and nine. And preferably get closer to eight than nine. And I'm like, man, I'm going to be like, man, I hate that. And I'm thinking like, as a person that normally wakes up, like nine, 15, right? What in the hotel has those kind of restrictions on the time for breakfast that is so frustrating? Well, exactly. So I was like, what the heck am I going to do? I'm going to have to wake up. Well, luckily woke up, got down at about eight, 10 the first day. Oh, that's why. Because Dave is an amazing chef. And it's a three-course breakfast.

6:09And they have this dining room. And the place was full. So it's all of these random people sitting at the tables. And the breakfast, it was like, here, here's some basically fresh whipped blueberry yogurt with brulee bananas and some toasted pistachios on top. Right? And here's a casserole that we've made. Oh, and we're following it up with a homemade maple syrup doughnut with spices and a caramel glaze. So they really take the breakfast part of bad and breakfast seriously? I mean, they take the whole thing seriously, because honestly, it's very comfortable. And I'm like, oh, OK, guys, here's my two cents. You got to let people know that no, breakfast is not a buffet, grab a little yogurt, and a little doughnut, and grab and go. Like, this is a thing, because every morning,

7:10I suddenly found that it was easier and easier to get up each morning for the breakfast. And Will didn't join us the first morning, our second morning, because he had arrived late. And the time change coming from California, blah, blah, blah. But the second morning, our third morning, I was like, get your butt down here and sit in the seat. You will not regret it as they made a peach that they roasted. And it was filled with a espresso marscapeau. Like, what? I don't even like warm fruit. And I was like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So anyway. Nice. I mean, that reminds me of my other perpetual idea for a restaurant. And it could be, now that I think about it, it could be called bed and breakfast. Because I always like, when I'm having a big meal at a restaurant, I like immediately want to take a nap. And I would just think it how brilliant would it be if a restaurant had like, like a little room

8:13that you could go in after your big meal and have a lie down. So they have like a chase launch, or you know, some nice, comfy beds. So you could just have a nap for a couple hours and then go home. And that's 100% what I did every morning after breakfast. I was like, right, because it's just upstairs, right? Yes. So every morning after breakfast, I was like, this was worth it. I would head upstairs and Pete, oh, here's the other thing that they did. I'm not a coffee drinker. As you know, right. Now, that said, there is a, I think, both in drinking tea and in coffee, when you do one of like some of the coffees, there's like something ritualistic about it that's kind of cool. And every day, Kelly would make pots of French press coffee. So she would come to the table with her apron on and her little rag and clean off the bottom, make sure it was good, put it down, do the press. And everybody got a pot of this coffee.

9:15And I was like, honestly, like, just the ritual of it. And Pete was like, this freaking coffee is so good. And so he would usually stay at the table a little bit longer and maybe read downstairs or one day he had to go to work. But I would go upstairs and take a nap. I was like, I'm literally having sweet dreams thanks to Dave's breakfast. So anyway, all that to say, by the way, back to the pillow and mattress app idea. The other thing I realized when I opened up the drawers to put some clothes away and there was the Gideon Bible in the drawer, I thought, you know what else they need to have at hotels and... Rocky raccoon? No. No. No. No. No. Well, because that's the song that famous name checks Gideon's Bible. Yes. Yeah, I was tracking that.

10:18But, you know, you got me off track now. Now all I can hear is Rocky raccoon. You checked into the room. Yes. Only to find Gideon's Bible. Yes. And that is me. So what I realized is we need luggage scales because typically before you go, you're like, I'm going to have to pay and you weigh your luggage and you're like, okay, 48 pounds, great. But I'm not great about that and remembering to bring the scale with me and let's face it. When you go on vacation, you're probably coming home with things. So I was like, hotels need to have either in the rooms like the little old-fashioned. That should be one in the lobby, I would think. Would be a good idea. I would think so and here's my thing. Here's a perfect collaboration between hotels and airlines. Come on, this is like a no-brainer. So. You know, and they might as well have one of those little

11:19baggage check, check the size of your bag things. So like, can you fit it in here? And we'll do that too. I mean, I actually got like a scale, a baggage scale, a little travel one as a gift like five, six years ago. Great gift. Still have never used it. What? I use, I used to have the digital ones. And those go wonky and it's annoying. So I went analog. I got one that's got like a hook and it's like an old meat scale. And it's like brim and it's awesome. And works like easy peasy, lemon squeezy. And I, why are you bringing such heavy bags? There was a wedding, there were shoes, there was handbags, jewelry, Pete suits his CPAP.

12:20That's not, doesn't really weigh that much. And technically he could carry that separately because, by the way, people that use CPAPs, that's considered a medical device so you can actually have your personal item, a carry on, and your CPAP. So that's one benefit to a CPAP. Well, that and that's all I, of course. So anyway, that's that. But me, I'll bring my handwaves, do my workouts. How did you know that's so weird? No, no, but I don't know, I just have heavy stuff. Okay. So maybe, maybe time to try and figure out how to make those lighter. Maybe, but then. But I don't want to get rid of my baggage, Eric. I want to hold on to it. So you actually check a bag when you fly. Yes. Wow. Okay. I haven't done that in a long, long time.

13:21Yeah. I, we do because typically we're not going anywhere for a short period of time. And, you know, like it was casual and warm in, in Connecticut, when we're visiting, but then you're going to a wedding where it's formal and in Maine, you might wake up and it's, you know, 50 degrees and then you walk outside and you're like, it's 72. And so it just, we just are so confused about what weather feels like anymore that it ended up being a lot. So you're visiting a lot of different climates. Yes. So we typically take two bags with us, one big one and then one carry on. And that's what we use between the two of us. So yeah, that's not too bad. Yeah. All right. Come on. But Maine, do we talk about Maine? Sure. I had two lobsters, two lobster rolls and clam strips. I think I put on lobster weight.

14:25So good. So good. I mean, I wish I liked it. I, and I know, I know you don't like it. And it's one of those things that I have this rush of memory. Actually, I say that I wish I liked it because people rave about it. But the cost of lobster makes me like grateful that I don't like it, you know? I'm like, oh, I don't have to worry about that. That it's $50 a pound because it's not good to me. So this is fair. I will say that we definitely save and money every time I don't enjoy. I'm ill. It's true. I mean, we were like, should we get a sweatshirt? And it was like, hmm, sweatshirt or lobster for lunch? I was like lobster for lunch done. Um, and the thing is it brought back like this rush of memories from when I was a kid. And, you know, my brothers were at camp in Maine and I would go with my parents and I was the youngest. And I was like, and dad would have a lobster.

15:25And I wanted some because it just looked interesting. And he'd give me one of the little legs and I learned how to like suck out the meat and everything. And then I started wanting more. So then I started to infringe upon his claws. And then he was like, by the time I was eight, he was like, that's it. You're going to your own freaking lobster. And I mean, I just love the whole process of it. And it's just, it does taste different when it is freshly caught. And it's amazing. So that was super fun. The wedding, it made me feel very, this whole trip made me feel very nostalgic because we went to some of the places that I went when I was growing up. So in terms of that, it was nostalgic. And then the wedding that we went to was, um, his name is Kyle and Kyle and Will were friends all through grade school and high school. And they continue to be friends to this day. And I'm Pete and I are really good friends with his parents.

16:27And so they were gracious enough to include us for the wedding. And seeing this core group of four boys that hung out all the time, Trevor, Corey, Will and Kyle, it was like, it's just one of those bomb things where these four boys together again. It was like no time changes and so much changes. So it was just a very, it was very fun. We getting to spend time with people that we love in places that we love and just lots of nostalgia and amazing food, amazing food. Like, sounds nice. It was great. It was so good. Yeah. So I had a great week. What about you? Yeah, pretty good week. It's, it's been fairly mellow, but the band finally was able to get together and get in a practice session because of course we have a show coming up on Saturday at the Valley into coma with the Lamo

17:35sexuals and the honeybee breakfast, which should be a lot of fun. Okay. So what are the names again? The Lamo sexuals and the honeybee breakfast. I, you know what? Band names are just. Yeah. I, you know, I can't even call them. I don't know these guys. Actually, what happened was another group had set up this show and then they had to pull out. So they asked us, Hey, would you like to take our slot at the show? And I was like, sure, why not? You know, because the thing I hate most about doing shows is having to like, you know, set up the night, book it and get other bands on board. So it was cool to have like a pre, pre-set up thing that we could just go, Okay. I guess we're doing this. And so yeah, and the only odd thing about it was when I was trying to do a Facebook ad to kind of promote the thing.

18:40Because which they like, you know, bug you about anytime you set up an event, boost this event, get more people. It's met a few bucks. Tell people about it, you know, which makes it. Yeah. Yeah. But it also makes it feel like, Oh, yeah, we're going to suppress this content unless you give us money. Right. So I'm like, All right, I'll give them a few bucks. But then they're like, sorry, no, your ad was rejected. I'm like, what? What? And then it's like, you know, they give you, they don't tell you why it's rejected. They just give you a list of potential things that could lead to it being rejected. And I'm like, Okay. And so I'm like, well, maybe they're like misinterpreting the back, the name of the one of the bands, you know, as being something, you know, like some slur or something, which, you know, Facebook is not great about policing actual hate language. So it would be really weird if that was the thing.

19:43But so I'm like, okay. So I'm like, like, resubmitting it. And the first their AIs like, no. And then I'm like, resubmit again. And I'm like, trying to read like the case of why and they're like, reject again. It's like, it looks like you may be offering financial services. I'm like, what? What the hell are you talking about? And finally, third try, they're like, Oh, your ad is running now. I'm like, okay, well, thanks. But if this is what AI thinks an event of three bands playing some rock and roll is a financial seminar or something. So weird. Yes, you know, that I weep for our future. You know, of course, there's all these stories about how, you know, like AI could wipe us out by 2030, which does not fill me with hope. But maybe the fact that it's so incompetent with stuff like this gives me a little hope that we might survive.

20:49Well, because the algorithm can't get it right. Well, and thank God they saved us from the honeybee breakfast, big business financial team. Right. That's right, folks. You're going to be a worker bee that can only afford breakfast unless you work with us. Honeybee, the batter sea pyramid scheme. Yeah. That yeah, I so weird. It's very weird. But I mean, the whole like I think it's fascinating. And we typically don't talk about the news stuff, but definitely in the news lately, there has been all of the talk of AI and like it's the end of civilization. And the top AI execs are like, hey guys, like, and you know, you know, it's bad when the AI execs are like, you might want to slow our role on this a little bit. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, and it's just like an oddly like they all agree on it. Yes. So that's even worse. So I'm like, wait, I like, oh, oh, wait, okay.

21:51I don't have to worry about our government. I have to worry about AI. Now these are people that are like, you know, so what if a few people die, you know, we're creating a cool technology up to this point. And then they're suddenly like, maybe we should work to slow things down because it's getting a little cray. Now if their level of cray is not like, yeah, it's going to kill people. And then it makes me worry what their actual whole fears are. Yes. I know. I mean, I'm like, we need to go back and watch all of those like movies about like time to queue up the terminator again. Yes. And like, I earn giant, which is not about AI, but still. And what was the war games movie where it's the kid that's like hacks into the thing. I'm just like, yeah, I don't know how to handle this. I need to watch old movies to find out what they don't. I don't think anybody knows how to handle it, which is the problem.

22:53But anyway, so on a positive note, we were able to get together, run through our songs again. And even though it's been two and a half months since we've played together, they actually came together really nicely. And we're signing really tight once again. And so I was pretty excited because I was just like, I don't know. Every time where we're going to do a show, it's like if we don't like practice a bunch beforehand, I feel really nervous about it. But now I'm feeling good and confident. And yeah, I think it's going to be a great show. And when is that show at the Valley in Tacoma again? Again, it's this Saturday, the 19th. And it's a Dores at 8 show at 9 and a lot of good bands and a good time for all like 10 bucks too. You can't beat it. Come on people. It's nothing. Right. Yeah. Good times. Okay. Well, that's exciting.

23:53Now, this seems like the best time I mentioned at the top of the show that we got an email. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So the good folks at PETA were kind enough to write into us. Because I had to set the stage a few years back, they came out with some suggestions for how to use language or expressions that weren't like explicitly explaining animal cruelty. Like there's more than one ways to skin a cat, for instance, nobody should be skinning a cat who cares if there's more than one way to do it. Right. That sort of thing, these kind of like terms that we can't just carelessly spit out all the time. It's like, no actual animal, of course, is hurt by a saying that sort of thing. But it does put it into the general public's mind that we think that animal cruelty is just fine.

24:59Well, and a lot of us don't think that way. And then so they came up with some alternative expressions for that. And a lot of them were just fun. Never buying the animal cruelty thing. The idea, the expressions were just a lot more fun to say. So I say, I've gotten into the habit of saying rather than kill two birds with one stone, which again, just stop. I say feed two birds with one skull. And then this gentleman from Pia, happy to catch that and rode in. So go ahead. I mean, yes, all of that. So West caught it and was thrilled because in his email, he mentioned the importance of language about these things. Like, you know, instead of the aforementioned idiom about cats, instead, there's more than one way to peel a potato. Right. And the thing about language is that idioms are so specific to the culture that you're in or the

26:05region that you're in. And so you don't necessarily understand them. And so that being said, it becomes dated. I mean, back when Ben Franklin was had an entire book of sayings that he had. And it had usually involved like a fox or a turkey or something or other. And you know, that was a thing. But it doesn't need to be a thing anymore. And it doesn't need to be cruel. No, it doesn't. Yeah. And so you now have me in the habit of saying the two birds, one stone. Nice. And you're right. It is so much cuter. And so anyway, West reached out and heard the episode. And they actually have mugs. And they're sending us mugs. That makes sense. I'm so excited. I feel like I don't know what I'm going to drink in it since I don't do tea or coffee. But Diet Coke, Diet Coke work. Yeah, sure. I mean, I'm just super grateful and always happy to spread the good word of

27:05PETA, you know, better, so do better. And thanks West. We're so excited. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for listening to the show first of all. But the cups are, I'm really low key excited to be drinking my cup of tea. Because I do indulge in the tea. Maybe they'll send us a scone too. I would not say no to that. I do like a tea scone combo. So look forward to it. Yeah. So anyway, thanks. As we said at the top of the show, if you catch something that you like that what we're saying or maybe you catch something you don't like what we're saying and you want us to learn better, then reach out asking at Don'tAskWeToTalk.com. We'd love to hear from you. All right. Well, we need to take a quick break. But we'll come right back with more because we got to get into our cultural blind spots with us. So stay tuned everybody to Don't Ask Me To Talk.

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29:13I'm one of your podcast pals. I'm Eric Reiter. Hey, I'm the other one called Stacy Heller. And I am excited this week because I watched a couple of random things. Being on an airplane really helps. I will tell you. Yeah, let's set the scene real quick. I people that listen to the show every week, I know you're probably sick of hearing it. But we do have new people listening every week. So we just want to give a quick scene setter for this. This is our cultural blind spot segment. It's where we talk about all those many things in culture, usually movies, TV, etc. That it feels like everybody else has seen and has talked about. But for whatever reason, with our busy schedules, Stacy and I have not indulged in one of these things for whatever reason. But we're finally getting around to crossing these things off our list.

30:13So we're talking classic movies here. Sometimes big blockbusters that feels like everybody's seen all that sort of thing. We are talking about it in this segment. It's the kind of thing when you say, oh, I've never seen such and such that the other person says, what? I can't believe it. You haven't seen such and such? Well, yeah, we have it. And then we're remedying that now. So get off our backs. Exactly. Man. Exactly. And it's so great when I'm talking about the show. And people are like, well, what does that mean exactly? And I'll say, well, how I haven't seen a Terminator. And they're like, you haven't seen Terminator. And I'm like, and there it is. Right there. Exactly. And I was in the exact same boat with that conversation, that exact same movie until like a year ago when we started doing this. And I saw Terminator and Terminator 2. So now I can say, I have seen Terminator.

31:14And I know what that reference is about now. I know what they're talking about when they say SkyNet. Now, you know, so. Yeah. I know that one I still haven't done. But I did two other ones this week. And. All right. Very good. I'm excited to hear about it. I didn't look up and you're great about doing this. So I'm sure you'll look it up for me. I watched two oldish movies. The first one that I watched is two Wang Fu. Thanks for everything. Julie Neumar. Julie Neumar, I think it is. And Brandon Booby that I've heard, like sort of heard about over the years, Patrick Swazie, Wesley Snakes, and John Leggwizamo. And John Leggwizamo. And I knew it was about three guys that were in drag. But didn't. Three. Let me just say the IMD summary real quick, because I think this is a good way to set the seed for all these.

32:17Three drag queens travel cross country until their car breaks down, leaving them stranded in a small town. Yes. Why does it feel like in 1995, that would be safer than 2026? Why are we going backwards to progress? Anyway, sorry, that's just a side note. Go ahead. Yeah. Now, and a good one to make. I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know if this was like a sister act thing where they were like undercover or if they were legitimately drag queens or what the deal was. And given that it was 1995, if you're sort of like, is this going to be making fun? What is this going to be like? It was honestly kind of like the sweetest movie. Super heartfelt, not at all making fun of drag queens. Even for a moment, you really fell in love with these characters. There was Vita, Noxima, and Chi Chi. Vita played by Patrick Swazie. Chi Chi, John Lake Rosamau, and Noxima, Wesley Snipes.

33:19And RuPaul was in it. It was amazing. There was just this like the culture and how they take it seriously. You know, they want a contest. They're headed to Hollywood. They get a car. It's sort of a Thelma and Louise thing. The car breaks down. And they end up going to this small town in the middle of nowhere. And so of course it has the stereotype of, you know, it's in the middle of nowhere. So they're not going to be educated about these drag queens. So everyone is really taking it at face value that these queens are, in fact, queens and not caring the family jewels if you get one of them down. Right, right. And it's just... Well, nobody's perfect. Right, exactly. To call back to another movie that we saw. Exactly. Not that long ago. So what's sweet about it is that Vita, Patrick Swaisy, can't help but get involved with people and want to do the best by people.

34:22And they run into an issue with a cop that goes after her and she pushes him down. He hurts his head. They assume that he's dead. Spoiler, he's not. And while they're waiting for their car to get fixed, they just empower this group of women in this town that just looked so sad and forelong. And they infiltrate this town with goodness and caring and whatever. And at the end, there's a moment where Stalker Channing, who is in it, says, you know, I'm just so excited to have a girlfriend. And, you know, that I can trust in whatever. And Vita's like, I have something to tell you. And Stalker Channing's character is like, the Adam's Apple, like women don't have Adam's apples. And it's just this moment of like, yeah, we know what's up.

35:25And then she says, and you're the best girlfriend that I've ever had. Like, it's just about like the friendship and the camaraderie and how the town comes together in the end when this deputy or sheriff or whatever comes looking for Vita. And the whole town is like, nope, I guess I'm a drag queen. And like even the men are like, well, I guess I'm a drag queen. And they're able to go and make it to Hollywood to do their thing. And I don't know. It was just like, for once, it certainly didn't shy away from stereotypes and from the culture and people misunderstanding and whatever. But it was just really lovely to see a heartfelt and genuine portrayal really focused on these women and how they really feel connected to the way that they are. So that one was really fun. Now, the thing about this movie that has always confused me is the title.

36:29Can you explain the title? So they're at this restaurant and I don't know. I'd have to rewatch it to see if the restaurant where they are was like a like one food or what it was. But there's a picture of Julie Neumar on the wall. And I guess Julie Neumar was like an icon. And so Vita takes the picture off the wall and is like, hey, this is what we're going to do. And you know, basically we're channeling our Julie Neumar. And so the signature on the photograph is too long for the memories or thanks for everything. Julie Neumar. And so I do think that this movie was poorly titled because it's too long and it's confusing and the callback is very specific. And Julie Neumar famously played Catwoman in the 60s Batman series.

37:33And in the end, beautiful woman. Beautiful. And in the end, she actually ends up crowning the drag queen who wins, which happens to be Cheechy. So really, really nice like full circle moment. And it's just a weird title. I gotta tell you, it's a weird title. But, but you know, like I guess what else do you name this? I, you know, I don't know. It was just sweet. At this point in time, 1995, it was around the same time I believe as Priscilla Queen of the Desert came out. I think so. So there was kind of like a drag queen fascination like in the ways that like Australia was like a fascination for Americans in the 80s. It was like drag queens for a short period in the 90s. So I've never seen either movie, but it is interesting that for like a brief period.

38:33That was like such a thing. Yeah. And I wonder how much these those two movies were in conversation with each other at all. Right. You sort of wonder, you sort of wonder like, it gave the permission to have like, you know, this be a topic in the movie. And there's not a ton of movies about drag queens that are like genuine movies that aren't making fun of or, you know, whatever. So, um, yeah. So because Priscilla was 94. Okay. Yeah, they did. Definitely. Too long for it was 95. I think definitely did come out like right around the same time as each other. Right, right. So, um, so kind of highly recommend. And honestly, if you're, you're like not so sure like drag queens, what does this all mean? Watch it for that because there's kind of some funny explanations that they have about like, um, like trans, sexuals and trans people and drag queens and like their explanation.

39:38It's not like heavy handed. It's light. And you're like, oh, I'm sure the language has evolved. Since then too. But, you know, as long as I give a lot of slack to, you know, things made in the past so long as they're not hateful. Yeah. And this was not. And I was surprised actually at how much the language really hasn't changed and how consistent it generally was. And I was like, oh, interesting because I know that, you know, the alphabet keeps growing in the LGBTQ plus community, which is great, but that language was pretty consistent. So that was a great movie. Then I went in a completely different direction and I saw absence of malice with, okay. I'm not sure I've even heard of this one. Paul Newman and Sally Field. And first of all, Paul Newman, that man was a hot. 1981. Mm-hmm.

40:39He was a hotty. I'm sorry. Like not to be all like pant pants, but if you get to call women beautiful, Paul Newman. And then Sally Field, she's awesome. And when I was looking for things to watch, it made me think of, I don't know, steel magnolias made me think of Sally Field. And then when I was scrolling through movies, I was like, oh, this, this is good. And it's about, all right, I'm going to read these summary real quick. Perfect. When prosecutor Elliott Rosen leaks to naive, but well-meaning Miami reporter Megan Carter, that liquor wholesaler, Mike Gallagher is suspected in the murder of the local Longshoreman Union president Gallagher's life begins to unravel. Oh, that one's kind of a mouthful, but is that a good summary of what the movie was? Pretty much. And it's this whole concept Sally Field plays a reporter and John Gallagher, Paul Newman.

41:41And it talks about how the paper or just journalism and media in general, as long as they're not intending to do harm or malice, they can publish something. And so meanwhile, what happens is this article gets published about John Gallagher and how he is under suspicion of having done something with this Longshoreman Union president. And because my virtue of his family's ties with the mob and so on and so forth. And the fallout of it is huge. You know, it impacts his business where he uses Longshoreman as a liquor distributor. And of course, the Union boss comes and is like, we're not working for you. I'm pulling my men like, did you have something to do with this? And he's like, no, of course not. You know, his relationships and there's a woman that, a very innocent woman that trying to

42:43protect her friend, John, she gets caught in the crosshairs and ends up taking her own life. And it's just this sad but telling story about how the media can manipulate the truth. And just because something is accurate, it doesn't make it the truth. You know, these days with so much that is about that kind of thing, it just seemed apropos. And it was really good. It was directed by Sidney Pollock. And it really Sally Field and Paul Newman were the heavy hitters, although Willford Brimley, I think. Who I was just looking at a picture of in this movie. And this is in 81. So he was fairly young. But he still looks like he's 75. Yep. Totally. I mean, I think I must have come out of the womb looking like an old man. Well, right. I mean, there's just those people. Yeah. So this movie was, it was so good.

43:46It was, I think, very well written. You know, you got two powerhouses. They've been around for a minute. It was a good team together. There was a romantic entanglement. And it didn't end on like a happy, everything's in a nice neat bow type of ending, which is actually refreshing every once in a while. It was another one that I enjoyed. And it made me, while I was watching it, be like, where are those movies anymore? Like just interesting, like very specific, like small stories that are, you know, this is a movie these days that would be made exclusively for streaming, rather than shown in the theater. Kind of. Yeah. I mean, it's, I feel like it's only the big budget popcorn, you know, shoot them up or superhero stuff that makes it to the big screen anymore. And this was just smart and savvy and lots of talking. And yeah, I really enjoyed it.

44:47I don't know if it was critically acclaimed or not. As I said, you know, Paul Newman, at the height of his powers and Sally Field, you know, she's funny because at first her voice was annoying me as she's playing this like hard hitting reporter. And I was like, her voice is too soft. But at the same time, there's a naivety about her that like, I'm just reporting the facts. Like everything that I'm saying is accurate. And just how she understands this hard lesson of the difference between the truth and accuracy and how it can upend people's lives, you know, and the repercussions that it has for her. And, you know, Paul Newman's character has very little sympathy for her. And he's like, sucks to be you, babe. So highly recommend. Very good. Well, that is one that I mean, I think I might have heard the title at one point,

45:47but I didn't know anything about this movie. And it's not one that I've heard a lot of people talk about. So, yeah, definitely a blind spot for me. But I do enjoy movies like that, you know, the gritty, journalistic movies, you know. So I'm interested in that. Yeah, so those are my two highly recommend them both different reasons, obviously. Maybe different audiences, but I hope not. So check them out. And you will enjoy them. You will not regret it. What about you? Normally, you're the one that has more to talk about. Yeah. Well, I watched a couple of interesting classic movies. Movies that people have talked about for a long, long time that I've never seen that this week. And one of them was a racer had, which is David Lynch's first movie. And Lynch is definitely something of a blind spot for me. Same.

46:47In the fact that I feel like, I know I've seen some of his stuff, but I just, I always feel like I'm not really getting it, you know, what I mean. And there's people that love his stuff so much. And when I watch it, I go, huh. So it's one of these things that I felt like, okay, I got to give one of these days, got to give more of a chance to now. I had seen his, I believe his second movie, which is the elephant man. And that's started Anthony Hopkins. And it's a beautiful movie, terrifically directed and beautifully acted. And it's a very straightforward story. I'll be it about a subject of a deformed man in Victorian England. And who becomes a celebrity. And, you know, it's a beautiful touching movie. So then I tried to watch like Twin Peaks at one point. Actually, I've tried to watch it a couple times.

47:50I'm like, sat in Washington. Fantastic. I'm sold. And like everybody I know is on board with Twin Peaks. Like so excited about Twin Peaks, you know. And I love the scenery in it. And I love the opening music to it. But then it's just like I hit a wall so fast on that show. Like what? I don't get this. And I am struggling to stay awake and pay attention to this every time I've tried to watch it. So Lynch is a mixed bag for me. But everybody says that's like serious about movies. How brilliant he is. So I know there's something there, right? It's not just a guy playing a prank on everybody. Right. It's being weird. So I decided to watch his debut movie from 1977. Now I have a vivid memory of as a kid, maybe being, oh, let's see, 77 I would have been like four years old.

48:53So I don't remember talking about this at four years old, but I think around six or seven, another kid kind of talking to me about this movie. And I'll be like, okay, well, that sounds interesting. And so it, but the name, it was like just burned into my brain. And then I would see like pictures of the poster and stuff. And it's a very striking poster with the actor who stars in the movie Jack Nance in the poster. And he's got this like this big hairdo. And it's a black and white picture. And it's just as a racer had a film by David Lynch. Well, this was his first movie. So he really kind of came out of film school like fully formed. Like I know what I'm doing here. Yeah. You know, this has been on my list for a long, long time, but it was one where I'm like, yeah, I don't know. This is going to be a real, this is that old. Yeah. Like because I'm here as Star Wars. Yeah. Wow.

49:53That's crazy. Yeah. That's really crazy. Sorry to interrupt. I just like, I would have placed this like in the, I mean, I guess not in the mid 80s, but kind of like off the off cuff, like at least early to mid 80s. Now have you seen this movie before I get into it? Okay. So I had never seen it. Like I said, it's one that's been on the list for a long time, been meaning to check out because it's one that's just like people talk about as like being weird, but just being this incredible visionary film. So I was just like, uh, slightly dreading watching it, but you know, when I actually saw that the time of this movie was about 90 minutes, I was just like, oh, you know, 90 minutes, that goes by pretty quick. I can pretty much sit through just about anything. It's 90 minutes. So, uh, why don't I give it a go? And it's on HBO Max now, by the way, if anybody wants to check this out.

50:57Okay. And I'll just read the description here on IMDB. Henry Spencer tries to survive his industrial environment, his angry girlfriend, and the unbearable screams of his newborn mutant child. And that vaguely describes the plot of this movie, if it can be said to have a plot, but it is so much weirder than that will let on. It is, first of all, let's talk about the score. There's very little to the score except loud wind blowing noises and industrial sounds. And there's a lot of like dreamlike imagery. It starts off with showing like a planet zoom inside to this planet. And there's like a guy inside the planet. And there's scenes where, uh, you know, this guy's apartment has a radiator and they

52:02zoom into the radiator. And there's a woman that lives in the radiator. And she like dances on a stage and sings a song. And the song is kind of a banger. Not gonna lie. We might have covered it. I knew the song, the pixies have done a version of the lady in the radiator song, where it's in heaven, everything is fine. In heaven. So anyway, I'm not gonna sing the whole song, but we don't want to copyright strike. Yeah. But it is, it is this catchy song that she kind of dances along to and sings along to. There's a little segment of the film where the guy, or racer heads, head like falls off and rolls on the ground and then a kid picks it up and takes it into a factory and they turn his head into a racer's, uh, which is where the name comes from.

53:04Wow. So there is tons of surreal imagery in this thing, but the thing is it's so well done that it, I won't say on the edge of your seat, but it keeps you involved and it keeps you following along with what could be, you know, the sort of thing that you would go, no, this is bizarre nonsense. I'm gonna move a log now. This is just a weird art house flick. Absolutely. Yeah. And they, they talk about the mutant baby in this and it really is this weird looking little creature. And they're, I have no idea what they made this thing out of, but it looks real. And it looks not like a, not like a human baby, but it looks like it's alive. And I don't know how like David Lynch on what had to be like $15 making this movie. Because it is low budget. It created a creature that looks alive and looks real and it's eyes move.

54:06I'm showing you this is the baby if you can see it. It's like a cross between ET and like a baby dinosaur. Yes, yes. And it's just like bandaged and it's it cries throughout this movie very loudly. The thing is it says like bizarre mutant creature. There's something about it that's so like lifelike that you feel invested in it. Like when it's crying, you're like, oh poor thing. You know, you can't help but feel emotional about it. It's so wild that he was able to walk this tight rope of surreal bizarre out there stuff, but also give this real emotional connection to this movie. And I kind of saw it as a kind of a metaphor for postpartum depression. Not just for women, but for for men and especially young adults that are like thrown into

55:06parenthood and don't feel like prepared for all the stuff that comes along with it. And that includes just the weirdness of your baby being sick and not knowing what to do with it. And it won't stop crying and that sort of thing. Yeah, yeah. And so there's a lot of this that it's just it's relatable, but it's also so bizarre and dreamlike that I kind of say I was like making jokes watching this movie, crack it up and some of this stuff. And there is some genuinely funny stuff in it. Like when the kid takes the head to the the factory and the guy the clerk at the desk is like ringing the bell for his supervisor to come in and the supervisor comes in and he's like, we get it. I'm here. He's just like from the buzzing and

56:06and it's like genuinely laugh out loud stuff. In such a bizarre film, you know, I enjoyed it. So I think I may have to go back and check out some more David Lynch stuff. I'm still not sure about Twin Peaks. Maybe I'll get there one day. But this one considering it was his first and probably weirdest movie, I was strangely compelled by this film and strangely enjoyed it too. And the fact that it is, you know, 90 minutes and it's tight, yeah, definitely made me forgive it a lot of things. I got to recommend it, but just before warned, it is weird. All right, it's definitely one of those movies that like I've never seen Diner. And you know, I'm like, for some reason I put it in with these random movies that seem like they're people that are really into like cinema seem to really like in a race or head feels like

57:10one of those and you know, there's just certain. My dinner with Andre, that's the thing. Right. Like reservoir dogs. Oh, reservoir dogs is different than those because it goes down smooth. It's you know, quentin Tarantino. And so his stuff is always like snappy and funny. And you know, the thing with his stuff is it's you know, can be incredibly violent. But at the same time, there's so much like snappy dialogue and stylishness to it that it's easily to be hooked by it. Whereas some stuff like, you know, potentially Diner, I don't know, I've never seen it or my dinner with Andre, feels just kind of artsy. Right. Right. Yes. Artsy is the word I'm thinking of. So okay, well, interesting. I'm I'm curious. Let's just call me curious. I would say give it, you know, give it 10 minutes and see if you could, if you're hooked at all, I want to watch it and no shame if you go, this is not for me.

58:12Because it takes a few minutes to get past like this like heavy wind blowing sound. Oh, it is his bleak landscape that he's living in to start to get hooked by some of the characters and their weirdness. Right. And there's so much more to it than I can even talk about. And I don't want to spoil anything for anybody because it truly does feel like a movie that was beamed in from outer space. It's so different than anything else I ever watched. So that's all I could say. All right. That's fun. Did you watch anything else? I did. I watched another movie from that was talked about heavily in my childhood. And it's partially because it was directed by Francis Ford Coppola, who of course did the Godfather series that really was kind of the inspo for this whole segment that we both watch. Along with James Bond, of course. Um, but the other reason why this movie is heavily talked about is because it's just got a

59:15murderers row of huge stars or people that went on to be massive stars in the 80s. You watched outsiders. I watched the outsiders with Matt Dylan, C Thomas Howell, Ralph Machio, Patrick Swayze, Emilio Estevez, Rob Lowe, Tom Cruise, Leaf Garrett. So so if you Coppola even makes a little cameo in this movie, Tom Waits is in the movie too. So I had very minimal knowledge about this movie except for that it had all these young heartthrob actors that basically took over films in the 80s and became like the biggest stars on the planet. But it's basically it's in Tulso, Oklahoma in 1964. The rivalry between two gangs, the poor greasers and the rich socks, heats up when one gang member accidentally kills a member of the other. Now that's not exactly a true summary because what happens

1:00:19is that a couple of the socks get murdered because they're hassling a couple kids in the park who happen to be the younger members of these greasers gang and they basically defend themselves and then that they end up the socks end up dead because of that. And so the kids go into hiding and they go outside a town to a church where it's like a rundown abandoned church and they basically just kind of live there for a couple weeks. And during that time they kind of bond and become better friends and they talk about like poetry and stuff like that and they really kind of grow up a little bit. And then they come back to the church and find that it's on fire. Something has caught the church on fire but some kids had gone into play in this abandoned church and the places

1:01:21burning down and the kids from the greasers go in and rescue all these kids that were in their playing. And one of them ends up badly burnt in the hospital for the rest of the movie. And this is Ralph Machios character, Johnny Kane. And see Thomas Howell plays Pony Boy Curtis, the other kid at the church and also helps rescue some people. Matt Dillon is their kind of older mentor character who you know he's the one that sent them to the church to Laylo until things cool off in town. And so they can see if they're going to be arrested for killing these other kids. And it's not so much about the gang violence that the description makes it sound like it's more about the relationship between those three characters and how they're kind of growing. And this is a movie that I I enjoyed but it is 91 minutes. And this was one where I felt like this could be a

1:02:23little longer. I would have liked to see these characters fleshed out a little more and their stories filled out a little more. It's it's lean but maybe too lean but it's still an enjoyable watch. It's a classic. Did you have to read this book in high school? I did not. I had to read it in high school and it was written by I believe a young woman. And I remember this but I mean obviously I remember the movie because hello hotty after hotty but I remember reading the book and you know just the complicated relationships and how with gang culture the ties of family and the familial bond and you know it was just an interesting written by SE Hinton and first published in 1967. So very much so it's Susan alloys Hinton. Yeah and so just a really interesting story about you

1:03:27know even if you're without family and whatever there is still like a moral code within that and there is still like the familial roles that you have. And I mean who can forget the last line stay golden pony boy? Exactly. During their time at the church they quote a poem by Robert Frost that talks about you know things that are gold can never last. So yeah there's that like throwback to that it's it's check-offs poetry that comes back. What's it said you know it's going to be better than going to use it again. But yeah I you know I like this movie I just I it was just two maybe just a little too overpacked with characters for the amount of time that you get in the movie. I wanted to see more about their the kids living because it's like some brothers essentially that

1:04:29are living together without parents and like them like just trying to get through life. That was like the most intriguing to me. Yeah yeah yeah and so I would have liked to see with like with Patrick's Wazy's character being the kind of the patriarch of this you know default family being the eldest brother. Yeah I would have liked to see a little more of that dynamic but instead we get a big rumble where they all beat the snot out of each other and you know I don't know maybe just because of my age but I would have liked to see a little more fleshed out of the family dynamic and stuff because it kind of almost it's got this kind of Lord of the fly it's kind of feel to it and I would have liked to just see a little more of that explored than just the you know like two gangs are going to fight each other you know kind of thing. So well interestingly and a few of the actors have talked

1:05:29about their time filming the show or the movie and how the Francis Ford Copeland actually had them all kind of lived together so that they were sort of you know they were a bunch of some of the most of them nobody's at the time and they all had to live together and it was kind of a random rag tag group of guys and I think that's so interesting that it was like to get that vibe and camaraderie and all that kind of stuff. Yeah and the other thing the other maybe minor issue I had with this was that I just at the end seemed really strange to me how Matt Dillard's character like sees his friend that got burnt severely burnt like rescuing these kids it dies in the hospital and then his lesson is like oh if you help people you're just punished for it so he goes nuts and then robs a grocery store. What? That makes sense to me though. Like it totally makes sense to me.

1:06:35I could see him like maybe like crashing his vehicle or whatever just are screaming or anything but just like why does what's the sense because what's the sense in doing good if you're just gonna be punished for it and so he's like I'm gonna go inflict pain and yeah but he does it in such a like half-assed way that of course the cops just shoot him. Well it was it was death by cop I mean that's what it was. Yeah I guess so I don't know I just felt like I could see him just be like becoming bitter whatever but I don't I don't that just the the switch like flipping in his head like okay well because he's already like a thug it's you know what I mean yeah it's I don't know I that just seem strange to me but nevertheless with that kind of star power and the out performance is

1:07:36all being good and especially the dynamic between pony boy Curtis and Johnny Cade there's enough there to recommend I just I don't know if I think of it as being one of couple of best movies or not I I enjoyed it though the guy knows how to direct a movie let's say that yes that's for that's for dang sure I don't know what I think about his wines but we're not talking about that right and you know and honestly it's just sort of an iconic movie from that period of time because of um all of the people that were in it um no doubt there was who was the girl and you called them the socks and I don't know if they were the socius because they were like the social crew or if they were the socks um I know it's spelled in the book so see um but the I'm trying to think of who the young woman was that played yeah maybe it's the socius I I forget but yeah that's just how it's it's written on IMDB but that could be short for whatever they were yeah um I'm trying to think it was she was

1:08:43played by another iconic um socius so it's short for socials okay um actress of the time does it have in the because there was somebody that she sort of like was flirty with the rag tag group and I'm trying to think of oh um you're talking about the character cherry I believe yes I think so yeah she was great um and so cute but um yeah why is it oh yeah Diane Lane that's who it is yes yeah talk about another big star right yeah like no joke so yeah quite the quite the cast very stash like I said a murderers row of I like that you know superstars um and Diane Lane and Matt Dylan went on to work together again in the big town in 1987 there you go I've never seen either but uh may have to put it on the list I noticed that um Coppola's next movie

1:09:51after this also starred Matt Dylan uh rumble fish oh yeah that's one that uh I've been meaning to check out for a long long time um so and it seems like a maybe a similar vibe to this yes I'll see if I can eventually uh follow that up what happened to Matt Dylan like he was everywhere for a while and then yeah like nothing and he was talented like legitimately he was talented he still works um but um trying to think of the last thing I saw him in but yeah he has not uh he did not maybe become like the superstar that some of these other folks did yeah uh but he has definitely been a working actor for a long time very long time and let's see last thing it looks like he was in was a movie called the fence from 2025 oh another movie called I play Rocky that came out this year so

1:10:52he's still consistently working um okay just maybe not the the high profile rolls oh I saw him in asteroid city not that long ago in 2023 okay so I mean he's doing his thing occasionally he absolutely is yeah all right well that's all the time I think we have for this say really there's a lot of work on the scene here's the deal folks um just in case you didn't know we do a shortened version of these to play on the radio however the long version is wherever you find your podcast you can hear the whole thing yep so just a reminder and so let's take this break we'll come back we'll get into our top topic for today which I once again had to look up but it's the best new game that we've learned so stay tuned we'll get into that probably a short segment I will be right back right here until ask me to talk hey I'm Stacy Heller I'm one of your

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1:13:00our great debate and this is you know a each week we pick a a topic from the wheel o topics you're the person that comes up with the topics they go on the wheel and so I always like to get your insight on the inspiration behind a particular topic so shut a little light on this well this little light of mine wants you to know that um so our family is a big game family I we always have been we love playing cards in fact I taught you and the girlfriend um one of the card games that we like to play a lot and we also will play board games we'd like all kinds of games so I'm always paying attention to when games come out um I have talked before about how I will watch uh ret and link they sometimes will play a game and so that introduces me to new games or I'll find something and so I just think it's fun especially for adults if you can find a game to play like

1:14:07honestly like good clean fun having pizza maybe having a cider or a glass of wine and playing games with somebody that's fun good time right so um yeah I think so and you know like we play a ton at the lake house because um you know we're all just sort of sit around and you can only play so much cornhole and um and you know there's just a lot of games out there I have a whole game closet I think you saw it um at our lake house and there's a whole bunch of different games that we have come to love like in recent years uh wave length is really fun we've played hues and cues that one's really fun especially with people that think that they're really good with colors um that one is then popular in the past couple of years there's a game called priorities that actually I got and I had to throw away because our family got into an argument on Christmas day I was like wow okay we're

1:15:09not we're not playing that one there was too many hard feelings um and so there's just lots of really cool games out there and sometimes they're new and sometimes they're new to you so I thought hey let's let people know something that we've learned recently okay well I gotta give the disclaimer that I I do not live in a gaming household um we very very rarely play any games um but I do enjoy them when I get the chance to play games so I have not learned a new game in a long time except for seeing you over Memorial Day weekend and I and you taught us a card game and we played it and had a lot of fun doing it but I'm gonna say I am blanking on the name of this game was it golf I think it was golf where it's the four cards and and you're like turning them over on each turn

1:16:12that sounds right yeah so we play golf all the time it's a classic that we play in our family there's different ways of playing it and it's honestly it would be way too much to explain to you over the airwaves so if you want to know asking don't ask me to talk.com I will totally tell you how to play um yeah we played that one a lot we play another one that was introduced to us actually by the Whistler family and that's who's wedding we went to Kyle Whistler's wedding so uh that one they called turdball and so um it might be similar to seven sounds very epic right whatever um it might be called sevens or it might be similar to sevens but we got introduced to it as turdball and we usually use a very cute little stuffed mouse that we call him turdy um and we also play a lot of lyre's dice which is also another fun game and at the end of the day what I have learned is that

1:17:14I am not the only lyre in my family we are all very good at it so um those are our classic games so you're forgiven for not playing games luckily there's me and I think yes you would like this one that I'm gonna talk about actually it is called hitster now hipster hipster like cool kids no whatever hitster like h-i-t like hits like music and so this game you can get a few different additions the one that I see it yeah looking it up the one that I played is kind of the original one and it's a box of cards and the premise of it is you you sort of you download the app which actually connects you to Spotify and you there's QR codes on the back of every card and you scan it

1:18:17and you're playing a song and what you're doing is you're like creating a timeline and the idea is to try to see if you can figure out this timeline and so it might be a song from you know 2003 or it could be 1999 or whatever it is and so with your teammates you're trying to create this timeline of when these songs came out and the box that I have the original um the original box has everything from like the 40s up until the 2020s and it's such a funny thing to play because so many people are like okay Britney Spears oops I did it again like was I in college like where was I when this came out like who was I dating or like what party do I remember going to and you're trying to go back in your own personal timeline of you know what you remember and how far off you are on these things now this is interesting I've started watching this old uh BBC show

1:19:23called pop quiz on YouTube so it's like episodes from the 80s and they have like musical celebrities in a panel and then basically they play them a clip of music and they get to identify the name of the song and who the artist is and what year it came out and so it's along these lines um but I gotta say I've been having fun playing along with that and I've been doing really well and then there's another um there's a YouTube thing called track star where a guy talks to celebrities and they put uh music in their headphones and then they ask them to identify it and usually they you know they ask them ahead of time well what's your genre and then they play selections from that genre and I do really well on that as well um my I know I have some blind spots of course you know when they talk let's do you know classic hip hop from the 90s like some of that you know I'm like oh right is that ludicrous you know I don't I don't know all the time of like the track name and stuff

1:20:26but I do overall pretty well with that so uh this it does sound like uh potentially a fun game for me better when it winds uh checking out at some point I totally making noise because I think I brought it home with me um but I also may just put on more episodes of pop quiz because I don't have typically anybody to play games with. I didn't I left it at the lake house but it is it's honestly it's so fun and the thing is it like you're reintroduced to songs that you're like I haven't thought of this song in forever and the fact that it's on Spotify you know if you have Spotify great and you could create a playlist if you wanted and it's just a really fun game and you know we weren't even really playing it according to the rules to be completely honest we were just working on making a timeline and just going through memories and so that one I think could be really fun to get for the family and to play it during the holidays when everybody's together so

1:21:31there's my there's my fun game that I've recently learned and enjoyed. Well let me just talk about this great new game that I've learned called chess now. You do need you know board for this and some you're so hit with the scene Eric. But let me tell you when I could get somebody to play me a few rounds of chess I'm loving it. I am not I used to be fairly decent at it but these days I get beat all the time and I still enjoy it. It's one of the few games where you know not winning is not an impediment for me enjoying it. So if anybody wants to play chess with me and you're not very good especially I'm your guy. I actually learned how to play chess from my daughter's then boyfriend and I have my little like cheat sheet of like what I'm allowed to do and the best part about the story

1:22:32because he was kind of a jerk not even kind of. It's that the first time I then played with him after he had sort of taught me some of this stuff it was like a stalemate or whatever it is like he was like I can't believe this like he didn't beat me the way that he thought that he would just absolutely trounce me and I was like yeah you little jerk wagon yeah so I'm very mature as you can see. All right well I think we've done it we've solved it we've tackled it lots of good game suggestions there and send us your game suggestions asking it don't ask me to talk but now time to spin the wheel and find out what we'll talk about on next week's show. Work from Helmer in the office. Oh okay WFH versus in office. Yeah I mean I've got a responsible save it

1:23:34for next week because we're running that time so yeah it's um it's an interesting condom and you know we're still dealing with it in a post-COVID world so we'll see what we have to say about it. Sounds good. Thanks for listening everybody we love you. Shout out to Peter once again looking forward to my two birds one-scone teacup that's gonna be exciting so thanks again and thank you out there for listening to the show today we love you and hope you have a great week. Later.