Full Show PT 3: Friday, October 2 [Vault]

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1:02Make the switch to better meat. Go to GoodRanchers.com to start your plan and get premium American meat delivered right to your door. That's GoodRanchers.com. American Meat Delivered. It's The Virtue Show. Producer Carl's at Mike Music. This was a big night last night for Producer Carl. Yeah, boy. We had... He's just trying to be like Jenn Alby. We had the premiere of the movie Takeers in Atlanta last night. And the stars of the movie, Ti Paul Walker were here. And Carl, we sent Carl out there on the red carpet to go hang out and did a great job. Yeah, it was booming last night. And Jenn, we've, Jenn's invited me to a few other red carpets. But this one right here, this carpet right here, this one was cracking last night. I mean, it was a real deal. Yeah, this was cool. It was a lot of folks out there. I don't know what was going on or obviously the A-list celebrities maybe, right? But when I got there, you saw how big it was going to be.

2:02Because at first, the streets were cut off. It was downtown at the Atlantic Station. So when I got down there, the streets were cut off. I'm like, okay, I've never really seen the streets cut off about this. I mean, about a red carpet yet. And if you're not familiar with Atlantic Station, it's sort of a... It's shopping, but it's one of those communities that they have found. I'm getting to live, play, work, environments where if you, if you, if you really, you could live there and stay there and not have to have a car. And they have a movie theater there also that holds all the big time premieres here in Atlanta. Right. And like I said, when I was getting down there, all the streets were cut off and I saw the police presence. I'm like, okay, it was going to be a pretty big, a pretty big situation going on. So I posted up, I got there early. I learned my lessons. I got there, we were supposed to check in at six. I got there maybe quarter-til. So I posted up real early. Next thing you know, the next 10 to 15 minutes, a whole bunch of media folks that start coming in. And the thing is, when you're down there at the red carpet, you expect this whole thing to be kind of easy. Like, you know, I have my position. I'm with you 100. I'm car. Everyone's going to respect you. Exactly. Exactly. And Jim sent me a text.

3:03She said, Carl, get in. And I was like, okay, yeah, you know, I've done it. So I don't know if I have to get in like she said, but you are dead on point with that one. Because get over there. I'll be your question, Jim. Oh, I know, right. You're here? She's going to be on each element tonight. Next, Matt. I know, I was in like a wedding planning meeting, texting Carl going, okay, make sure you get in there, tell him that you're car from the birch house. And you were right, too. Because I've watched Jen do it too. And like, she's albuming people. Yeah, I said, I'm pushing her head down. How you going over, Bobby? When I talk to her, I say, you know, Jim, I'll throw some balls if I have to. I didn't mean that, but I had to. Yeah. That's what I meant. I had, so I'm getting down there, y'all. I didn't hold media. Everybody's important. Everybody's feeling it's supposed to get the interview. So I'm supposed to be here. I'm supposed to be there. I'm supposed to be here. So I'm jacking for position, everything. And the thing is, when you know the crowd is screaming, you hear a scream. That's when you know to look up. Okay, let me stop talking to Rhett. So before you can even see the celebrity, you just hear like this wave of cheering, okay? You hear a buzz and you start seeing the lights flash,

4:04like cameras popping up. You're looking up, oh, who was that? Who was that? And you mentioned Rhett, right? Was the videographer there? Exactly. The videographer. So I'm sitting there talking to Rhett, then I hear the buzz. I hear the scream. Then I hear, I see flashing coming on. Then I, okay, Rhett, let me turn around and look up. Next thing you know was Paul Walker walking down the red carpet. Are you sure it was Paul Walker? His, I mean, a lot of people look like him. Right. Yeah. He's a nice looking guy I've heard. And you know, Paul Walker, man, it's real cool, dude, too. And not to say that he, I didn't think otherwise, but Jeff, you were talking about me, not appreciating some of the celebrities I come in for the most part, you know, maybe in a big hip hop fan and all that. But meeting those guys and person like that, like I remember when we met, I met Kelly Clarkson in the studio. I became an instant fan just because of her personality. So down. So sweet. I mean, instant. Now, I didn't really know too much about her, but I'm a fan. Same thing with Paul Walker and other guys that I didn't really know too much about. Paul Walker made easy, as opposed to that, Hayden, Christian, in the interview. You got the courage to not have these celebrities

5:07from this movie, Takers. It is a really cool cast. Like a lineup of the cast is a bunch of really good looking dudes. But I think that Carl got the charismatic good looking dudes. He did. Here is Carl with Paul Walker now. Just to set this up, is he walking down the red carpet and we hear you like a yellow inform or is this one on one or are you picking up audio from others interviews? Actually, I'm picking up a little audio from other interviews because like I said last night, this is a real jockey fest. I'm jacking. I'm picking up any audio that I can. Did I throw minds in there? And then there's some or another professional who's been doing it a little longer. And I think they smelt it on me and they kind of stepped on me a little bit but I have to throw my bow. I'm getting my credit. You think it's seen the fear? This Paul Walker clip is Carl and Paul. All right, producer Carl with Paul Walker and not exclusive. What kind of role are you playing in this move? Uh, I play this guy John Rawin and he's just, uh, he's just cool. He's like, he's the guy you want to commit crimes with. Because even when things go bad, like he's going to smooth it out every time. He just, he's cool under fire, you know, so just fun to play.

6:09You know, it's easy for those guys. You know, and I saw the same thing with Chris and Lucas. It's the same deal. It's like, you know, they're used to being on stage and performing in front of so many people. They get in front of a camera and a small crew. It's like, what? They say it's right off their back. You know, they just own it. What's next? Uh, working on some of that. Do you get in another question here? Yeah, I got to do. I'm okay. This is another stuff line. I know what I'm better with downtime. And I, like, uh, I worked to live not the other way around. You know, so she's tenacious, man. Yeah. Yeah. She's good. I was like, this is chilly right now. I was tripping out. It was chilly that, huh? Because I'm like, that's her. I know that's her. She came up to me and she was like, oh my god. I can't believe you. Hey, probably think it's a chance for you and Jolly. What's that? I think it's a chance for you and Jolly. Oh my god. That girl's beyond beyond. So hey, you want to line it up or what?

7:12I just got here two days ago. Like I have an affinity for the ocean and everything. I know the aquarium here is supposed to be ridiculous. So I'm going to check that out. I'll check it out. I'll check it out. Here's pretty good. The Pixies, which is old school for me. They're playing in town. I'm going to check them out. So Carl, producer Carl with Paul Walker. Nice job. You can tell when he was talking, he was loosening up his hands, our swinging his head, his kind of going, swinging back and forth. He was very funny. He was cool. I want to know how tall is he? You know what he's about? I would say six, two. Okay. Now he's attractive, huh? Yeah. Tall, dude, you know, nice. Because you know her now, until you're in front of the celebrity, how tall they are. Because everybody in Hollywood are a little people. You know they are. They are. They're women today who will shake your hand because you shook his hand. They will kiss your hand. Like you're like the queen of England. They'll be like, oh man. And the aquarium will have never had as many ticket sales as they would. That's a mark. And that's a hard work in dude too, because he also was in town filming another movie. Yeah, we've had him on before. He seems like, remember we had almost like a, I was trying to bromance him. Yeah, he was such a cool guy. He's a dude dude dude dude.

8:13Good morning, Domiana. You're on the birch show, hi. Good morning, birch show. Good morning, Carl. I just wanted to thank congratulations, Carl. And the fact that I am so jealous that he was at the A station last night with my man's, Paul Walker. He's there. That's what I want to know. Let's get poked. Is it? What? Idris. Idris. Idris. You know, that's, I tweeted a question. I said, oh, yeah, I'm about to go down to the red carpet of it. What should I ask to cast? Thousands of women sent me back email or texting saying that asked Idris Elma. Idris Elba. Elba. Exactly. Is he a, is he single? Idris Elba, he played in, Tyler Perry's daddy's little girls. He played in American gangster with Frank Lucas. Okay. He played in Beyonce that obsessed movie. So he's a real, real famous dude. He's up and coming. He's been out for a while. But he didn't happen to show up. But I was, I'm no longer get paid up today by the women. Is it he married? No, he's not married. I heard he was married. I heard he was married though. I heard he was. Right. Not anymore. All right. So here's, um, check this out.

9:14Producer Carl with TI. TI? Pee. Same time, same type of situation like he's walking down the red carpet and you can hear the whole crowd and, right, same type of situation. Yeah, we're T.I. Showed up the crowd went off. I mean, they were the whole Atlantic station was full by this time. And then when T.I. showed up, you knew of him. Is this his first big event in Atlanta? I mean, I know he's done a couple of club things. I think so. But this is his, like, maybe he's coming out after being out of jail. I'm not sure. But I know that he made it worth his while because he did it big, man. Good. From the screen into the after party. He was doing it. And he's, and he's how big? T.I. was about, I mean, he's a, you know, regular dude, five, eight. Yeah. He's a T.I. That's smaller. Yeah. And we got the K-ing right there. The man T.I. And Jackie. I'm doing a challenge. Can you clarify that even more? Is that something you've got further on?

10:15No, no, no, just said the further away I am from 20. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to start stepping into other things that, you know, I just feel like the title of a rapper, you know, the title rapper just doesn't, it doesn't suit the grown man in me, you know what I'm saying? So I'm going to have to get into other things that I could feel that are more, that just, you know, that compliment my swag a little more. But I'm going to continue to do this for quite some time. I don't think that, you know what I'm saying? We got to, I'm not packing my bags just as a viet, you know what I'm saying? I don't want nobody to get too excited about it, you know what I mean? I will be here. Who is that? Who is that second-year airtime? That's for sure. Oh, I didn't try that. I will be here. I picked up a lot of tips from her though. I bet she's great. Yeah. She's hotter than you. She's not even close, bro. I don't even look in my way. You going to get a word in? Yeah, yeah, I got some coming up. That we're looking at, that we're looking at, I don't want to, you know what I'm saying? Speak about, speak to prematurely about anything. But we definitely have things that we're looking at and we are reading a lot of scripts

11:18and we will be taking advantage of our opportunities. We got things that we need to pass this into. I mean, every day was an adventure, man. You know what I'm saying? You know, we all got along and we all enjoy each other's company and coming to say every day, man, was just a different experience. Hey, yeah, we got you, man. You hit the ground running, man. You got seven, the seven albums about to drop. We got this movie coming out right now. What can we expect more from you, man? More albums or more movies or what? What are you heading with? I mean, you know, you can expect a few more albums and a lot more movies and, you know, saying more clothes, more business and more just just taking advantage of more opportunities. I read that you are that Danielle told you, man, to never let the camera catch your acting. What's the one thing that you can pass along to any other girl, coming actors? I mean, I guess the same thing, man. Keep it simple. Know what you're doing. And do it to the best of your ability. Hey, man, it's good to see you on the scene because I want you to, one guy who I see around the hood, man. Keep it up, because that's exactly what I want to say at the end, also. That's right. That's so much love.

12:19Yeah, that's sometimes I get lost in the whole moment. I'm like, you're out of the blue eye now. You said, okay, Creek, baby. You know what? Are we going to play any, any of this later in the show? We can, sure. Because I would like to give, and Carl, you did a great job. So, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to talk about this. You did, you did also. You did also. You did also. You did also. But I'm going to, if we can find it, Carl had the opportunity to talk to Luda Chris, a couple months ago. And panic. Oh, this is totally different now. So, yeah, you've come a long way. Evolution in the like six months or however it was. Because I can't remember why Luda Chris called us, but he was promoting it. He's gone to her in a new album. Yeah, oh, it's black. I'm still kicking myself from now on. So, you wanted to ask him just about being a multi-faceted businessman with, you know, the con, con, con, your contour and the... And I sound just like this. Oh, damn. Some are calling up to ask if Chris Brown was there. Chris, breathe in the show. I was looking for him, y'all. He did not show up that early.

13:20He's in the movie. He's in the movie, also. So, that's why they're calling about that. And just give me, just give us a little insight into the after party, also. After party was stupid. I mean, guys, I mean, it was wall-to-wall women. First of all, of course. Where? It was downtown at, I don't even know the name. It was 200-piece tree. What's up there? Real nice, real nice inside. Marvel inside. Just real clean and everything. But, it used to go in the 30 bars or something. The 30 clubs. It was, it was, it was more and everything. But the after party was out of control. And I heard, like I said, you can see the buzz and feel the buzz when the T. I showed up and tiny pulled up and it's big, bossy spaceship may back. But I heard, I'm not sure if it's true, but I heard Kanye was in the building. Oh, yeah. I'm really buzzing. I felt the buzz and I heard a few people, like, oh, yeah, Kanye. So, I didn't see him. I can't confirm that, but I heard Ye Tidda. You would think that if Kanye was there, he'd let everybody know he was there. I saw your boy Dove in on a red carpet too. He was, really? People think he was somebody. He would be an interview, like, I can't catch him. He's like, chilly rejected me on her reality show. Oh, that's nice of me.

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16:37I have a question to ask parents. I told these guys earlier this morning that my son started school. My seven-year-old son started school two weeks ago. He is now in the second grade. And without getting too into it, there's just the seeds of bullying going on right now with my kid. He's not in the bullying group. He's the one that's starting to get bullied a little bit by three kids in his class. And it's not so bad yet where we haven't gone to teachers. And the way that my wife and I are handling it is we have just decided, okay, we got to teach him now to sort of stick up for himself. Let's see if he can work his way through this. We'll all talk about it the night before he goes to school. And let's see if he executes our game plan together. And then we'll just take it from there. And if we don't see any success at all, we'll turn on over to the teachers and the faculty. And we'll get some more advice from them, right? And have them look a little bit harder. But here's the question I had for you guys. And it was a fleeting thought yesterday,

17:38but one that was brought up earlier this morning when we were talking about this. I'm wondering how many virtual listeners are listening right now that have been in the same situation and told your kids to go to school and knock the bully right in the face. Oh, you're gonna punch a toss. That was your advice. Because Stacy and I have been struggling this now for years. She, my wife, has always had the philosophy that, look, we do not condone anything physical whatsoever. And I've been on the other side of the fence of this saying, like, I'm with you. You should never start a fight. But if somebody pushes you around, you gotta let them know that you're gonna stand your ground. So my thought yesterday was if this thing progresses to a place where it's out of hand, would my advice ever be to my seven-year-old, get on the playground. Don't tell teachers about it when they push you around, close your fist, hit them right between the eyes. Now we're all gonna end up in the principal's office and I know it sounds harsh and it sounded harsh going on in my head. But if we end up in the principal's office, publicly I'd have to say, hey, then that is awful.

18:38How dare you. But privately I'd go, good job, dude. This may be stereotypical, but you're in the south. I don't think it sounds harsh. It doesn't to me because my father's philosophy would be to make a fist and throw a punch to let him know that you're not gonna be messed with. And then man to man, it's a physical thing. And you gotta prove that you can be physical in order to gain respect. We just live in a world now where you're like, everything except physical violence, right? Go ahead and handle it with all means necessary, accept the fight. And I think it's still shocking to hear one parent say, yeah, I told my kid to go to school and just pop the bully right in the nose. And what did the kid do? That's a tough assignment for a seven or an eight-year-old. I just remember my brother. Like, my brother's pretty peaceful, doesn't cause any problems, quiet, dude. But, and this was in high school though. So by high school, he had that ingrained in him. But yeah, I mean, there's a dude pushing him around, pushing him around, and my brother finally, you know, fought back, got suspended,

19:38and was celebrated when he got home, because that's the thing. As long as you stand up for yourself, that's a better life lesson than you get in said home from school. Is the message different than stand up for yourself is different than go to school and pop dude in face? Beat people up. But my brother physically assaulted this dude and was suspended for it. So what I'm saying is the saying, it's kind of, they go hand in hand. Like, and I think for guys, sometimes it has come to blows. What a mother ever give that advice to her daughter to go to school and just like that. No, not too bad. It's different. I took up for a friend of mine that was getting bullied. This was in seventh grade, so much older than where Hayden is. But I stood up for a friend of mine who was getting bullied, and I pushed that other girl around and fought back, and we actually got in a fist fight. I punched her in the face. And so I got in trouble. I got detention, but my parents weren't mad at me because I was sticking up for a kid that was getting bullied. How did that end up in the long run? Did she ever, did you ever mix it up with any of them after that? No, it was just this one girl who just size wise was bigger than everybody else in seventh grade.

20:38So she pushed everybody around and she had some behavioral problems. I think maybe some problems at home going on and she took it out on kids at school and she was picking on my friends Stephanie Nikitas. And I stuck up for Stephanie and my parents weren't mad at me. I did get in trouble with school then. Yeah, no shortage of calls here. You're right Melissa. Yeah, I mean, think about where you are. Good morning Becky. You were on the Birk show. Hi. Hey, how y'all doing? Yeah, good. Thank you. Good. Love your show. Thank you. Appreciate it. My son was in kindergarten and this little boy would pick on him, pick on him, pick on him, pick on him. And he didn't say much to me about it. Then the teacher brought it to my attention that he was getting picked on by this kid and he just wouldn't stop. So I just told him. I said, when he does it again, just hit him back and it worked. Nobody got in trouble because the teacher knew that he was getting picked on and they became best friends and he never picked on him again not one time. Is that right? That's what I was trying to tell him.

21:39And he was five years old. That was what I was trying to tell my seven-year-old yesterday. Also, we haven't got to the physical part of it. But the message is still the same. Like if you just stick up to a bully, the first one time, all it takes is one time. And you won't have to worry about it for the rest of the year, you know? Because a bully is only picking on the weak kids or who they perceive to be the weak kids. And it just seems a guy language, respect comes when you know there's some kind of physical strength or at least a strong heart in the person that you're talking to or buddies with. And the message is clear to all the other kids on the playground also that if you stick up to the bully, then they won't mess with you. And if you don't stick up to the bully, the other kids start to challenge you also. That's real mentality stuff. And this is like dogs. Mm-hmm. Hey, Terry, good morning. You're on the birch, yeah? Hey, what's going on? You tell us. Hey, what's up? In middle school, my oldest son was having a problem with some of the football players picking on him.

22:39I had always raised, I raised all three of my kids, never to start a fight, but to always finish it if it got started with them. He was being picked down by some of the football players my oldest son has always been real tall, but he's never been real big. The football players took that, and him not looking to try out for football as a son of weakness. So he would get picked down and pushed around and stuff like that. I had gone to the school and talk teachers and talked to the principal. And the principal flat out told me that he didn't see it. There was nothing he could do about it. Mm-hmm. One Friday, I come home from work. My wife tells me that I need to go talk to my son and I walk in there and his shirt is ripped from the collar. All the way just about all the way into. And I asked him what happened. And he said that one of the players had ran by and grabbed his shirt and spun him around and ripped his shirt. So instead of going back to the school, I told him I said, Monday, when you got to school, they did not say a word to nobody.

23:41I said, if they put a hand on you, I don't care if you have to use a trash can, a dictionary or a desk. I want you to whip their ass. That is good. That is good. Well, I love it. Monday, about 10 o'clock, I get a phone call from my wife telling me I have to go pick him up. When I get to the school, him and three of the football players are in the office. And all three of them look like they have been drawn, I mean, all four of them look like they have been drawn through the mud. The principal tells me that, you know, one of the players ran up behind him and pushed his boots out of his hand. And when he bent down to pick him up, the other one was going to run up behind him and knock him over. Well, he had to pick up the biggest book he had. Yes. It should rot in my head with it. Yeah. Love it. And after that, fight was on. And you are a proud papa. But now it was the story. What made the best part for me was, I asked the principal, do you see it? And when he said, no, I said,

24:41well, then listen, I said, we can do about it. And, you know, that led to a couple of exchanges between me and the principal. So then I pulled out the student handbook and I told him, I said, look, I said, everyone on them are suspended for five days, correct? And he said, yes. I said, then that means these three football players are not allowed to participate in practice or the upcoming game this week, correct? And he said, yeah. So I was happy with it. I never picked on Matt again. He's everyone. Yeah. He won out some football the next year and made starting defensive in. Okay. He's a great story right there. That's a great story. I mean, there may be, I know there's people who, I mean, I don't condone violence. I mean, when it comes to, you know, the bigger picture. But I think one on one, I think especially for a guy and girls too, but I think especially for a guy. I mean, I just, I do. I would be the mother that would tell my son that I would. It doesn't necessarily have to be sons. It can be daughters also.

25:41Here's Brian. Good morning, Brian. You're on the birch. Hey guys, it's not just all about boys in the elementary school. I had a daughter in the middle school that had a kid on her boat, constantly making sexual remarks. Oh. Oh, yeah. Two her and mechercron. She's a pretty girl and then one day you grabbed her, you know, kind of like, where you shouldn't have been out of the hotel. But if you ever does it again, put him in a headlock and his jack is like a jack. Well, we'd get a call about a week later. They recorded it on the bus. I was the proudest dad. Oh, yeah. I got a call. Yeah, I mean, this kid was six foot tall and we had to go watch the video in the principal. He was like, well, you know, he goes, he goes, I'm kind of, you know, I have to send her home for a couple of days, but good for her. They go like, oh, really? So she literally grabbed him and put him in a headlock and started a hammer on a way. I don't. She put him in a headlock and hit him. I think we counted 12 times. And he started to cry and he picked foot tall.

26:45And my daughter was a 10 year competition swimmer. So upper body strength. Oh, yeah. Nice. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it. And I love it that the principal was like, okay, I had a crit after that day, the guy never bothered her. And then she was a little bit more cool. You know, yeah, just a little, yeah. Then she got like that little nervous twitch, you know, that just made her scary enough for all the other students not to come anywhere near. That's awesome. Well, then the bully in terms around also because if a guy gets beat up by a girl then all of a sudden he becomes the weak leg. And then he's the type of bully, right? He should have never said anything to the first place. That is his medicine. That's right. This is the bird show. They're down 21 with just over six minutes away. This is the moment, baby. This is the moment we separate the dogs from the boys. And if you ask me, I only got one question. Do you got that dog in you? Because it's never about the winners or the losers. But it is about the difference between those brave enough to put some action on the game. And those who just want to watch from the sidelines eating off brand pizza rolls.

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29:48Nadine, you want to talk about Michael Loan? Yeah, I'm holding back tears here. I'm so glad I got through it because I've lived with the guilt of the misdiagnosis of my son. And it was very hard. I myself took the test for ADHD and I was diagnosed with ADHD. Let's put you on. And I said, wait a minute. I've never been, you know, I'm just doing this to test what makes somebody ADHD, what, how do you get this? And obviously my son was misdiagnosed. And if I would have known what I know now, I would be doing the same thing that Michael Loan is. I would be shouting from every TV news radio station that I could because until you have a 19, 20 year old birth because your children are controllable right now. You're in control of their lives. When you have a child that you don't have control of, I have a 20 year old.

30:49I know what I'm talking about. You don't know what else to do. And there's times when this gen you hit it on the head. There's no way that you can say, if you stop talking, now that's just another mechanism to shut people up. Don't bring it to the light. You know, don't, and they don't listen just because you shut up. You have to be pro- I've never heard Michael Loan speak before. And I just liked him because I love the bird show, but I just liked him because you dislike him. And now I heard him and I was, wait a minute, this is probably what I would be doing. He's one of those great salesmen, isn't he? Yeah, he, I buy into what he's saying every time he's on with us and then it kind of fades away. But he makes sense and his arguments made, the arguments that he makes are logical. And the statements he makes are logical. I, he can talk without directly addressing it. He can talk me out of like the, I'm only in it for the money. Argument that we always like to make and stuff because he is basing things in fact and he is trying to take care of business.

31:50Yeah, I think if it were your own parents, you know, what would, you know, those of us that have close relationships with our families, right, what would your own parents do? And it probably would not be what he's doing. And it's not, and let's not take the divorce out of it. I mean, I think that, you know, everybody's coming at it like, well, she had a drug problem and he's trying to intervene. Well, you know, what, the report is that she really didn't have that big of a drug problem. And there was a huge divorce they had and he brought it up himself like she had a stable career until he and Dina started their drama. And then Lindsay who at the time was what 19 and who a regular 19 year old is going to go out and rebel and party and do all kinds of stuff. And here she is on top of just being a 19 year old, being a 19 year old in Hollywood. And then being a 19 year old whose parents are using hers as a divorce trophy in the public eye, I mean, yeah, that's why I don't like him because I feel like he contributed so much to it. And now he's benefiting from her struggle, you know, and I just don't respect that. I also don't buy the theory that the only reason why he and Dina broke up is because he got

32:55new a fist fight with her brother. If the relationship was completely healthy before that whole thing happened, they would have been able to figure it out somehow some way. Or he wouldn't have gotten a f***ing brother. Or like your brother. And there is that also. Yeah. So perhaps so. We just got off the phone with Michael Lohan. And every time we have this guy on, you guys call up very passionate about it. Some of you guys believe him. Others are just saying he's milk and Lindsey, but you guys are always really passionate about him. 877-588-2378. Hey, Tonya. Hi there. Hey, I love your show, guys. Thank you. I'm so upset with you right now. I don't know what to do. Okay. Yesterday I listened to Dan while you talked to him. We have a discussion about Fantasia. And you accused her. We'll put possibly just using her suicide story to get publicity. And then you get this guy a platform. I just don't get it. I don't get it. He's not a star. He's totally from my perspective using Lindsey's situation for publicity.

33:58Well, I have said that to him before that. The truth is that if Lindsey gets healthy, he has no career. And he always debates that by saying, he would go away forever if she was clean. I don't know. I'm curious about your comparison to the Fantasia situation. Because to me, I feel like it's very different. And how so? I mean, Fantasia, who we don't know what her real situation is, she could very well be in pain. And the even question that I think it was, Melissa, is that how sad it is that we're so cynical, but we would even question that. And then we give this guy. We, I mean, again, he's not a celebrity. I don't know if anyone cares about him. If he didn't just happen to be went through all hands dead. So why did he come to class for more? She what she's saying is that we criticize Fantasia for trying to gain publicity from this. And she thinks we're aiding him in getting a publicity for this. Hey, Talia. Good morning. You're on the Berkshire. Hi. Good morning. Morning. I'm not necessarily for her against Michael Lohan,

34:59but I just couldn't make a comment about the ADD drugs that he was talking about. I was diagnosed as a child and put on beds. And they did help with the ADD and like getting school worked on and concentrating and stuff, but they led to other problems. And I didn't like being on them. So I tend to just find mom to take me off. And I learned to deal with my own stuff. And now my eight-year-old son has it too. And we're adamantly just against the whole drug route. And we're keeping him how to make adjustments and keep control in other ways. So I just wanted to say that I agree with Michael Lohan about overuse of drugs. And I just think that they cause more harm than good in some cases. So I want to be interesting in this whole thing that people will look at ADD differently because of the misdiagnosis. I just think it's strange that Michael Lohan would be the one to, and Lindsay Lohan's situation would be the one to put it forefront in the whole world. He's a guy. He's being bastard. Right. For anything. Any platform, but he is. Yeah. Well, and he said he was going to go after the doctors and then he said he wasn't going to legally go after the doctors.

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38:04I say number one, do not wear khakis. Oh, especially if they're pleated. Please, leave those at home. Why? What does a pleated say? I don't know. They're just cheesy looking. They just came from the police. I'll tell you what a pleated says. A pleated says, welcome to Macy's, how can I help you? I said maybe rental place. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for coming to Blockbuster. This says either wear dress pants or nice jeans. khakis make you look like you're going to middle school dance. Yeah, they're a little work-ish. Number two, if you're a dude, you're going out on a date. You make a really nasty impression with one of those inappropriate t-shirts. Oh, yeah. With the catchphrases on it. That's all right. I'm there. Like, why would you do that? Very first date. Yeah, we don't need to make a statement. We can just talk. Go ahead, naked lacrosse. She'll dig this. That's screams. I'm a radio DJ. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, number three, and these seem like they're pretty obvious. Short pants. Um, this one's really just a fashion tip for everyday life for guys. If your pants are an inch and a half too short,

39:06like a woman will pick up on that. Yeah, we can do that. I know. What do you think about that? If you've outgrown your cro-clothes or if you've lost a lot of weight, maybe you've trimmed down, but you're still wearing your bigger clothes, that's not cold either. Mm-hmm. You gotta get it fixed. Turtle necks? Says, even if you're one of the very, very few men who actually look good in them, don't ever wear a turtle neck on a first date. They sell men's turtle necks? I don't even know they sold them for men. I thought it was just a girl thing. Really? Yeah. No, they have men's turtle necks because I remember the big thing in upstate New York was to wear the turtle neck with like the button up shirt over it. But the suitcase. It was so cold. You had a layer. That is such a 90s world turtle neck with a shirt over it. Yeah. Or, I mean, there was a point there back in the day that we were wearing turtle neck with nothing over it, just the turtle neck. You should show up to school and everybody's like, you going to ski in a day or something? Hi. Hi. I snap because I feel like you're taking me to an open poetry night or something if you have a turtle neck. Or you should be mining. Hey, are you going to use your, all your pipe tobacco because I need you.

40:09Could I buy my clothes? What were they, Jakarta's back in the day? Oh. And one of the biggest defenses for dudes on a very first date are tidy whiteies. Because if you do get to that, if you do get to that very, very special place and you address and there's tidy whiteies, that's going to kill things. Instant bus kill. Instant bus kill. The Bert Show. Your HSA or FSA could help pay for a smarter way to grow dinner at home. With Garden, you can snip basil for pasta, harvest salad greens from your kitchen, and grow fresh vegetables, herbs and flowers year round with a smart indoor hydroponic system, and an AI gardener that helps do the work for you. And now that Garden is HSA, FSA eligible, it's an even smarter way to bring fresh food home. From countertop herbs to salad and reach, Garden turns your home into a year-round source of fresh food.

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