Felonious Gypsy: Friday, October 2nd, 2026

0:00Good morning, girlies, it's the tallos. It's Jackson Claude and where your hoes. It's your favorite show, the fast-by-things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the toast. It sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday. I hope everybody's just sort of acknowledging the space that they're in and taking a look around and feeling immense gratitude for where we're at. It's exciting to be on a Friday. I'd like to tell you something. What? I forgot to tell you offline, so I can tell you online. It's not Friday. Well, we might... When I went to sleep last night, I fully thought yesterday was Friday night. I was like, oh, Claudia, I wanted to send you something that I was like, she's off her phone, it's your bot. I was like, thinking about how... I wonder how late I'll be able to sleep in. That's so funny. I think how do I remember? I was like, just like programming up to date, we're probably going to have to start exclusively talking about dancing with the stars on Patreon.

1:00Because these pros, they don't know how famous they are, they're all up in our comments. So yesterday, we posted a clip about how you wanted to be paired up with Maxum. Yeah. And I said that would get you a beating. Who's in the comments? But his brother, Val, saying, Max is the goat. So he didn't like Cup Brothers or anything, but it's just like, I need to be able to express myself. I can't live like this. Or stop clipping dancing with the star on the list. So viral. It's viral, and that's what we want to talk about. But then yesterday, I went and watched Maxum and Marl's winning. I don't know what it was. It was their contemporary dance, I guess, that's when everyone starts getting like, lyrical and takes their shoes off. Yeah, and I think that also, it's like a little bit more creative. No, and they all look naked. It's very abilite. It's very like. Yes, yes, exactly. So everyone said I need to watch Maxum and Marl. Marl was the figure skater, right? And I realized, I don't think I can do dancing at the start of the year. That's what I've been saying. No, no, not for like, they were so like,

2:00in fact, they really were like kissing at the end. I know. They were kissing, Claudia. No, I know. And it's like, I thought that with like Riley and Fabula, like, they're not married individuals. A thousand percent. And you just, it's kind of like how when you're an actor, you have to be comfortable with the other people. I feel like that guy from desperate housewives. A thousand percent. I can't just, dancing with the stars because it's like inappropriate to my marriage. Like people can't be normal. No, you can't just be like a dance partner relationship. It's like so intimate. It was not normal the way that they were touching each other. And then I also realized whenever they do the judges scores and everything, like the two partners are standing there like, clutching each other for a deal. Get off me. One thousand percent. No, the lack of personal space is definitely something you would struggle with in addition to all the other. One thousand percent. And you have to constantly be hugging your partner and like holding them for your life. And if you're not like the fans really start to think like there's something wrong or you guys are hating each other like there's so many theories. So due to the physical touch, I cannot participate in this. It's true. Because you know I'm like that woman from 30 Rock that Alec is dating for a second. We're like, when he, if you like touch her, she like bruises.

3:01Yeah. When they go to the art gallery and stuff. Like she's just like very fragile. That's me. She couldn't do dancing with the stars. Neither could I. We all have our reasons for why we couldn't do dancing with the stars. Because I was starting to think, you know, like I find February to be an inspiration. Podcasts are on dancing with the stars. Yeah. And I really thought like my barrier to entry would be like the physical element. No, no, like having young children and like the. Sexual. But keeping to complete my sense. Yeah, but that's what you're saying, schedule, right? The logistics of like getting out there like do I like, especially if I did it when they're older, do they go to school there? Like I, I, I, no. I thought that was going to be the most complicated part, but no. It's there's a weirdness and like we're all just supposed to like with Hollywood. Like we're supposed to be like, this is normal. It's not. The marijuana to the point that I was like, were they dating when they were they like, there's rumors about every single person like half the time they're true and half the time they're not like, yeah, I could see why people might have thought. And the comments were saying, oh my God, remember when we ship them so hard, I don't know if they were married when they were both married with children now, but I hope they were

4:02saying, oh, for what they were doing. And now you do understand like why Brooks sort of like had no choice but to start dating club. Yeah. It's kind of like a forced marriage. Like you're just thrown into these sort of stressful. So all's up to say like I need the Dancing with the Stars pro to like respectfully like respect our creative process. What I need them to do is watch all shows that we talk about them because like if Derek just watches the clips or just hears a sound like he's going to think that we're haters and maybe it's unclear if you are. I'm still working through my thoughts, but at this present moment, I'm not. Like overall, we're huge fans of the show of them. Like everything we key on, stop talking about it. Like we're fans and I just feel like that's not coming through. No, we're getting like haterish, just reputations and like we're not. It's just so hard with the clips. I know, but like we do what we have to do for the sake of virality, you know. Yeah, but at the expense of our relationships and then say we ever do get cast on Dancing with the Stars. There's going to be no one left. How are you going to look at Derek in the eye? He's obviously going to judge you poorly.

5:03Well, he judges everyone poorly and hopefully he can remember my name. We didn't even discuss that Derek again this week called Tyler Cameron Dylan. It wasn't a bit. No, I thought it was a bit. It was giving he caught it so quickly, but he still did it. That's what I, that's how I interpreted it. Crazy. Genuinely offensive. It's also crazy that Dylan at front went so far last season, considering he's no better than like a Tyler Cameron or a Vibola. Uh, no, he was like dance wise like he was better. But it's a testament to Dingella. It's a testament to Dingella. It was your true dance. It's a star span. You know, it's all about the pro. It's all about the pro. And that's like what people used to say to me all the time. And I'm like, I'm sure it is. But. No, I don't care about pro drama. I'm here for the star. Don't you want to know that what happened? No, actually, I don't care about these people. But you know what? I do. And it is all about the pro. It is. And the pro is sort of make or break. Yeah. Um. So I guess we'll have to clip this because that was hilarious. It's all about the pro. Yeah. And just know if we do, we're not haters.

6:04No, we're huge fans. We're loving our time with the show. It's been, um, it's been a joy and you guys are immensely talented. Thank you for all that you do. Especially the girls who like to do a pregnant. Oh, yeah. Another. Another inclusive element of the show. Yes. It's crazy. Mm-hmm. I have even seen this clip going around of Ezra Freff when he was a young star on Ellen. Of course. Now I chills at the thought of my king being on Ellen, that toxic environment. The couple seconds that I watched, she's seen it lovely. Speaking of kids on Ellen, please tell me you saw that video. It's really upsetting. What? So there was a kid about the piano prodigy. Yeah. So he's grown now. But there was a kid who was like one of those kids who was on Ellen a lot. He was like an insane piano prodigy. I think he like went to Juilliard when he was like six. And he's now like releasing all this footage. I guess his mom has passed away, but like his mom was like insanely abusive. Like to get him to that level. So they're like all these, it was like his Juilliard audition. And he like released the full video of like his mother screaming at him. Like berating him like an animal. And he's like sitting there crying.

7:04It's the same. It went so viral. It was all over my TikTok. It was so upsetting. And it like turns out like this great kid. We were like, oh, it's a kid. Like he's that Ellen. Like he was already being abused like crazy. It was really upsetting. What is he doing now? I'm not sure. Playing piano. I hope so. Yeah, but like he probably makes you hate the thing. Of course. Of course. That's really sad. No, I didn't see that. But you saw Ezra. Yeah, I guess like that's where he should have been, of course. And she seemed to be being kind to him. Like she was kind to most of the kids. Who was she? Routou Mason-Ramsey. Yeah. And Dakota Johnson, of course. And she was rude to everyone backstage. Of course. Slapping the producer is left and right. But most of the time she hit it well. Yes, especially like under the guys. Like look at me. It's children. But it got really bad when like there were episodes when it was she was being mad. Sometimes she forgot like that. Like that. Her mask was. Like her mask was. Her mask was slipping. Yeah, and Mason Ramsey. She like couldn't help but hide her like extreme distaste of him. Yeah, like he was she just thought he was like dumb and like ugly.

8:05Like she really like did not do a good job of. A job of hiding it. Yeah, but maybe that's why like he is where he is. Well, hopefully Ezra had a good experience on the show. Yeah, I didn't watch the whole clip. No, but he was like a cutie. And he had it like that. Like seriously, if you're going to be rude to a powerfully jick child, like go to hell. To jail. Like seriously, go to jail. Yeah. Yeah. That should be like an official misdemeanor or cry. Cry. Cry. What's bigger than a misdemeanor? Uh, we plead something down to a felony. It should be a felony. It should be felonious. Felonious Florida. That's us now. Yes. The loading is. Because now like if we were naming if we were starting our podcast now, we were naming it and we're like just today like being felonious in Florida. When Jackie and I launched, relaunched our show with the morning toast, we were so excited. There were so much hype. We were climbing the charts. We were number two for like days. We could not beat this other show. It was called felonious Florida. And it became like sort of like our smart list now. What happened to that show? It was like a one season wonder. And this always happens with new podcasts.

9:06And this was a big one because it was just like a mini series. Right. But whenever a new podcast launched, like especially if it is with the network or whatever, like it will automatically like go to number one because that's like how trending works. And we just like couldn't crack the show that because of those felons in Florida. We've done nothing since. And made no impact at the time. And nothing like we've made. Oh my god. Fucking felonious Florida. So we never got to be number one. And that's like why we do have this ship on our shoulders if you guys are ever trying to understand like where we're coming from. But I think it's so important that we've never been number one and that we never are. It keeps us hungry. Like I've said, like I would always rather be like number two through twelve. Like I think that's where you have peace. And I think like to get to the place where you are number one, it requires great sacrifice. Like kind of I'm like not willing to do. Yeah. No, no, no. And at the cost of your personal life. Yeah. So I think it's it's great. They see it in number two. When we were talking about tennis players, like would you ever be like when we were talking about Taylor and Tommy. Right. Right. Right. Like Taylor's higher ranks. But I wouldn't want that.

10:06Like number ten is good enough for me. It's beautiful. It's brand deals. It's brand deals. I'll take it. I'll take it. So that's how I feel about the charts truly, truly. Well, what are the source? Share, share. Like to die number two. Um, the stories are mixed bag. In a positive sense. Yeah. I think so. I wouldn't use a D word. The deck. I would not call them dry. Okay. Not at all. I would call them like a mixed bag of fun. Okay, Lexus Rose. I was so Alexa Rose. A mixed bag of fun. I'll do it. You want to get into it. Yeah. Without further. I'm battling some sort of like symptoms in case you guys can't. Oh, yeah. I hate to complain about it. No, it's good to let everyone know in case they're feeling some sort of way from you. Oh, am I coming off like negative or anything? I'm not hiding it well. I'm battling flu like symptoms. I know you better. It's true. I'm really not well. I hate not come. Like the thing is, I have an amazing, amazing job. And I just need to do like the one thing every day. I hate to call and sick. Then I was like, I'll do it. I'll do it. And are you well? And like he could. I'm sure he would love to. Like, come over here and promote the good guys. The point is one. But like, I hate to miss.

11:06Yeah. So I will just have to bring my negative energy to the show. But just letting you guys know if you're reading like into anything. I'm really not feeling going to do probably here like I'm a little. Of course. I'll see. And being pregnant and sick is dreadful because right now all I really need is to add Ville. Like it would. I've got a headache. I've got a back ache and I've got a sore throat. Like an adveil would seriously. Like I imagine, do for me, like what heroin does for other people. Like I just. And I can't take it. And so I'm getting desperate. Ben's doing pressure points on my thumb for a sore throat. God, your back alley. Yes. So Ben is really into like Eastern medicine. I know. So the time I wrote my eyes at it, of course. But when I'm pregnant, like I kind of have no other option. Like sure. I have to look eastward break my thumb this morning because apparently it is a pressure point for a sore dry throat. It didn't help, but I'm open to these types of things now. Have you seen this? Care. Well, it was probably like six weeks out. But have you seen like the garlic and honey thing? Are you outside of the talk? I think them hoppers. Does it? What do you do?

12:06So it's like you make a jar like peel. I don't know. I feel like I'm going to fill up a Mason jar with peeled garlic. Pour in honey. You like turn it over and let it ferment for six weeks. Okay. So I don't have six weeks. But you don't have six weeks. And then it's like a natural remedy. Eat the garlic. I don't think you eat that you drink like the honey. You pour it in the cup. Like you pour it. Yucky. I'm going to make it for you. I'll see you in six weeks. See the things so much. I've seen it so many. And what if you're not sick in six weeks? Like it's just you just last longer. No, it's like, oh, yeah, it lasts longer. It will be ready in minimum six weeks. But you do it at the start of like flu season or like they did it in September or anytime. And you just always have it on hand if you're like a prepared person. I didn't proactively make my jar like sorry. It's okay. I'll make it for you. I'm working on a low free as well. Yes, yes. I have a lot of things I need for you. Jackie will also be doing the ads today to make sure to pay attention because I don't have the energy to do them. I will do the ads today. And I'm going to have a feast with them. So should we show everyone that feast? Oh, yeah. Without further ado to to to do this time for the fast I stories that yet it do need to know today's episode of the toast is brought to you by Amazon MGM studios and their new movie

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19:24Our first story major news to wake up to Ken Erker, who is Jiffsey Rose Blanchard's partner and the father of her daughter. Who knows with these two. Yes. Has passed away on his 34th birthday. So. Jiffsey Rose's partner Ken Erker has died. He was 34. He was found unresponsive today. His birth day. No, yesterday, sorry, October 1st, his birthday. He was discovered by a family member inside a Louisiana home. A source close to the family confirmed to people. TMZ was the first to report his death. The local sheriff's office confirmed to people magazine that officers were called to a residence in race land at around 615 PM. And he was found dead upon arrival. So, Jiffsey reportedly sent him a happy birthday text and did not receive a response per TMZ. He was later found by Jiffsey's brother Dylan and his wife when they arrived at the home. So, streets are saying that Gypsy sold the story to TMZ, which kind of given the details does track.

20:26Obviously, people are freaking out about this because like what are the odds that like two times now? Like someone near and dear to you dies. And the first time you sort of are. Assessed back and you do end up going to jail. She's an accomplice, right? Do you ever deny that? No, no, and I think like a lot of people felt that it was really justified. Right. Right. So like we don't really care why you did it. But now it's like well. Is this a pattern where coincidence? Because I don't know, the odds of it happening twice are just really crazy. Yeah, it reminds me of this book you had for Redhead's Mad Mabel. Where it's just like people around her. Keep dying. And then like- And her op. Was she innocent? Oh, actually, don't worry about that. I don't spoil it. And it's Sally Hepworth. You should read it. Oh, okay. I do want to say I think Gypsy is innocent. I do. Well, because I don't know if you guys know this. I have actually met and chatted quite deeply with Gypsy Rose. And I did not get murderous vibes from her. She really didn't. And I think she like really loved being free. Mm-hmm.

21:26She doesn't want to go back there. Correct. Like a lot of times if you saw Shawshank Redemption, like a lot of times people get out of prison, they don't know how to act and they actually end up back in prison just because it's like a comfort. Well, not a comfort, but like it's what they know. And I think Gypsy, she came out and was famous and rich. Like I don't think she wants any part in returning to prison. So I can't imagine she would do this. I really can't. But I will say I agree with people, the odds of it happening twice are slim. Yeah, the sadadjust is always crazy, right? Right. Because like her boyfriend killed her mother. She went to jail where she got in touch with Ken Erker. Is that how they met? Yeah, they met. She had a different boyfriend. Yes, yes, yes. She had a husband actually. So that's who I met Ryan. So the couple Ken and Gypsy first connected when Gypsy was still in prison for the murder of her mother. Ken proposed to her in October 2018. And then the couple briefly called off their engagement before reuniting in August 2019. They later went their separate ways again for multiple years during the time Gypsy married and split from her stringed husband Ryan Anderson. Yes, Ryan, of course.

22:26They reconciled in April 2024 and Ken recalled for like how they found their way back to each other. Like I want Gypsy to know there are other men like outside of the two that you met in prison. Well, I feel like it's not like a lack of man problem. No, and that's what's inspiring about Gypsy Rose in general. Is that like you can be this sort of like felon, unionist Gypsy? Felonist Gypsy, this unique individual, and have not won but two boyfriend's like husband's. That's what I feel like when we say to your toasters like it's hard to get a boyfriend like it is but looks at Gypsy Rose. Yeah. And you know what? Not to keep bringing it up, but when I did interview Gypsy Rose, I asked her. I did ask her because I didn't want to say like this. I'm like, how do you keep any boyfriend's like? And she said, you just have to be a queen and your king will come. And I thought that was like really amazing advice. That's really beautiful. So you just have it, you know, she definitely had it at that time. And some girls like there's all different versions of it like, you know, cool girl. Right. There's a girl that always has a boyfriend. Yeah, there are some girls that just like give off great energy.

23:27You guys. Yeah, I don't know if that's Gypsy's thing because both times she met her. And and and and and the obstacles that she has to overcome. Like, of course, maybe at first. You would think like, oh, no, I'm not going to go there. She's in prison. At first, of course. But then like her dazzling smile breaks through. Yeah. And like, maybe she's just a great girlfriend. Maybe she's just a great girl. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe not. Yeah, I. I'm not like obsessed with Gypsy Rose. Yeah. The way like culture is obsessed. You weren't even more obsessed than I am. I'm not really out on this, but I can't lie when I saw this headline this morning. I was like, whoa, yeah, just because like the odds of it happening twice are. Yes. Crazy. They are saying that he died of an apparent overdose. However, this was yesterday. So it seems like more information will come out. Like it's all right. Right. Very quickly. Right. Because people are saying Gypsy like sold the story in the TMZ. And like, how you would need to know if like an autopsy if somebody did a drug overdose.

24:30Yeah, maybe if they walked in and they saw. They saw like the early on and they came to that conclusion, but nothing has been like officially concluded. No, not at all. So my water bottle is frozen and it's reminding me like when we were kids when you would take a water bottle and put it in the freezer. Peek living. Peek living and like on a hot summer night with like solely melting and have this like big chunk of ice. Those are the days. Good time. Do you want like it's seriously. This is an elite weight of your in-quater. So how many can finish my electrolysis, Mario? I'm all out of whack. This isn't a elite weight of your in-quater. I'm a good. I have a lot. And I have my own elite water. No, yours is half frozen. Obviously the producer here prefers me. Thank you. I prefer room temperature. Yeah, so does Ben. It's better for you. Is it? I think I don't quote me on that. Ben just says it's easier to down. That too. Yeah. That's like I like my electrolytes from temperatures. I can chuck that. Correct. I agree with that. I agree with that too. But I like my so somehow I can like chug a soda. I don't like warm soda. There's a name for you. Welcome Ben from Satalia House, Ben, feeling their morning after his big

25:31Susie extra She's been gone to Costco. It's been when I could know yesterday. And you know, we don't really have a lot of experience with Costco. We've obviously been to Costco. There's two and three of us discovering cops. Yeah. So like, if I've ever been to Costco. It really was a meaningful way. I understand that was my experience before the patrium. Yeah. In fact I also dig and try to stay on Costco. Yeah. She used to really Go Them And he picked up sushi. And I think a lot of people would be like, ah, sushi. But one thing about my husband is he stares fear right in the eye. And he does not care. He fears not. He literally fears not. And he's so excited because he tried Costco sushi and it's like going viral on TikTok. And he said it was delicious. Like he had a couple of notes for like the flavor profiles. But the fish, he said was extremely high quality. I watched that real life. That was gripped to my feet. Of course. I was scared. Of course. He was afraid. But I follow this mother daughter duo who's always like trying the different foods at Costco never sushi because they're not crazy. But like the pre-prepared foods at Costco

26:31like are some of the most high quality foods on earth. Like yeah, I don't know why everyone was so worried. Because Ben was, he was going to be OK. And one thing we have Ben, he's got an iron stomach. So no negative contraindication. No, he's felt pretty good all night as far as I know. I did fall asleep literally at like 7.30. But when he woke up this morning, he didn't have any big news to tell me. OK, that's good. Everything looked good. So it's got the one to see a love approval. Yes, I think he would actually go back. He should. Like it looks like Nobu. Lunch. Literally. Nob is discussing. It's true compared to Costco. So just around of this first story, this is very sad. Of course. Oh, and then there was also a TikTok live element. The sister went on TikTok live this morning kind of confirming the death. The sister, Ken sister, when on TikTok live, the night he died, confirming his death and revealing that his last words to her were, I love you. This whole situation is very smelly. And it reeks like the Costco sushi. But at the end of the day, a man is dead, and that's very sad. Devoted. And he has a child.

27:32But everything else around it is very fishy. Going on TikTok live immediately is not like amazing. The streets are also saying Ken's TikTok went live for like a few minutes last night. People are also wondering why she just texted him happy birthday. Isn't that her man's? No. So on the TikTok live, the sister did say that he and Jipsy were not together. But they share a child together. Yes. It's a tingle web, she weaves. I just want to say it's a tangled web, she weaves. So, rest in peace, Ken. Rest in peace. And that's kind of all there is to say. That's all there is to say. Rip Ken. At the moment. At the moment. Are you ready for our next story? Alex Earl was spotted out. I need everyone to chill. Zach Bia. Isn't he a professional friend? OK. I need everyone to chill because he's not a professional friend like he's dated Madison Beer, those iconic pop rotsie photos of them yelling at each other.

28:33He has definitely dated lots of, I think he dated a living Rodrigo, a high profile women. He's like a nepot baby like DJ. He's like literally just sort of this like faceless, nameless person who's always around. But I need everyone to like use context clues. Because if you've ever seen that episode of Sex and the City, where Charlotte goes to the theater with her friend who she believes to be gay, and then as they're getting the cat be kisses her. And she was like, I was wearing my glasses. Alex Earl was wearing her glasses and like great leggings. I'm sorry, this was not a date. This was not a date. And also, her publicist was there. Kate Bailey was there. Like I like how they conveniently left her out of the picture. Sorry, these two were not dating. No, like he's a friend person. He's just like an actual groupie. Like he's like, he's a friend for hire in LA. Yes. Yes. So it would be like if she were out with Jake Shane and they were like 1000. Alex Earl's a new man. 1000%. This is so not a thing. It's a burst. But he is a straight man. Right, right. Of course we would know Jake Shane wasn't because Jake Shane is gay. But like, no, when I saw this, at one second, I was like, no. And then I was like, oh wait, no, this is not happening.

29:34Because at first I was like, hell, it is a point. And I'm sorry, like, no, no, it's just, it's not the vibe. But then using context clues, the gray, not even leggings, like yoga pants, the glasses. And then the third person, this is not a date. Yeah, no, it's just like catching up with friends. I see friends with Stas. Yes, he's friends with everyone. So and that's her friend. Oh, yeah, right. It was just like, you know, like when I saw the two of them, I just thought Stas. Yeah, maybe Stas, like, I had to leave early or something. Or like, Stas set them up as friends because like, they're all looking for friends. Right. And she is spending more time in LA. She's like an apartment there now. And she's in her friendship era. Did you watch episode with Jake Shane? Alex Earl and Ashton. On the pus? Yeah. I did? Not. I watched like so many clips. They talked a lot about making new friends. OK. It was funny because Alex is in her like making new friends. I were talking about her friendship with Stas and how it's like been so good for her. And she's not always like been like this. But I think this is just about friendship. Yeah. And I think that a lot of us go through eras where like we're kind of in our friend making moments.

30:35You're definitely in a friend making moments. I think a lot of times when you have kids, like you start seeking out mom friends. And so you moved. I love when you move. Yeah. So I love this. Like make friends. Yeah. People are trying to make it about Madison Beer and Justin Herbert and Tom Brady. This whole New York post article, they're just like looking for an angle. The first five paragraphs don't even mention Alex Earl's name. It's just about how like Justin Herbert is like this. They linked him to Tom Brady. Madison Beer is like engaged. She leveled up so hard. So they dated for a long time. And if you've ever seen the pop roti pictures of them fighting, like it's serious. It's giving like Wimbledon with Bradley Cooper and Arina. I love that. Yeah. And I feel like she was so upset after the breakup. And so you never even know what's waiting for you around the corner. Like the glow up of the century. Like he's the quarterback, right? For the Rams? Uh huh. I mean, he is so handsome. He's like the darling of LA and like why are chargers, whatever it is. And why seriously? Oh, another engaged by that. She's the biggest ring of all time. And she's like at an elite level with like Haley's time belt

31:36until her straight. Seriously, why would she give a fuck about her old unemployed ex-boyfriend? No. She's not looking back. No. He's not an employed. He's an American DJ. And he is also a record executive. Like I said, are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Actually, to spells husband Christopher. You know what? I can't stand these two. I really can't. Breaking his silence on the toxic mom group drama. Thank God. And like we were waiting with Maiden breath for Christopher French. Who is Christopher French? I don't know. It's a like hair care brand called Franchet. Franchet. And because that's her married name, it's a good name. It's a nice name. Christopher French. It's getting American DJ and record executive. It is. What is it? Like a Matthew Koma type. He's a musician composer and producer. Matthew Koma. Yeah, best known as the founder of the rock band, Annie Automatic. Oh, you're kidding. No, I'm not yet. I don't know them. And Matthew Koma is like the producer present.

32:37No, Matthew Koma is actually like incredibly successful. But I imagine that this is part of the reason my Hillary and Haley, no, Hillary and Ashley at first got along, like music exec husbands, former Disney Channel stars. I mean, he's finally speaking out. Thank God, I was like really waiting. So he hosts a podcast called Recovery. OK. I assume that's about like recovery from alcohol and stuff. Yeah. And that has nothing to do with what he said this week. That's good. But just know that he has a podcast. He said we're doing fine. She's a super smart, capable person. And she knows what she's doing. And that's part of what I love about her. He said, I will say I have no problem supporting my wife completely in her ability to deal with her own interpersonal relationships. And whatever way she feels, she feels is right for her without getting involved or feeling like I have to speak for her. She's a really smart chick. She's a very capable person, which is really what made it so hard. We are very private. But in speaking to something that really matters to her. I'm sorry. When you are really private, you can't claim your privacy after you wrote the blog post. Yeah. First of all, second of all, I totally forgot that I sprayed so much for my shampoo in my hair.

33:38This morning is my hair gray. I guess there's like one like. Do it like Mr. Sheffield? No, not at all. OK. See, it's like the top. OK. And then two. This is obviously a dig at Team Duff coma, because he got involved. Right. Oh, I forgot that Matthew coma did start making content. But the thing is, it's over now. So you just coming in a year later, because we were actually sitting in this studio. Yeah. So it's been almost a year. And to let us know that you're not saying anything and that you didn't say something. Yeah. Release a whole podcast telling us that you're not talking. I don't think so. I don't know if it was on the podcast. Whatever. To release a whole statement just to say that you're not saying, yeah, I'm all set. That is a way to my time. And now I'm just re-reminded of the fact that like she did this thing. She played the victim. And then she sold a TV show. Yeah. And they're making a TV show about it. Which is crazy, because like in that time, Hillary Duff has like completely revamped her career. She's releasing new music. I just saw a video. Her tour was so unbelievably successful. And it's like the more we like move into this, like Ashley Tisdale just continues to look like a bigger loser.

34:39To take the L exactly. Even if the show comes out to me like the next hunting wives or whatever, it's like the origin story is dark. I know. But like I know where we landed on the situation. Like where did the cult turn with us? Because it was kind of like a bait and switch at first. We were all like, oh my god, look at all these girls being mean to Ashley Tisdale. And then it was like, well, wait, like people started to learn more about the different members of the group and like how things went down and some of like the background. And then it kind of like flipped on her. And I think she acknowledged that too. And that's a little bit of what he's saying. I think she thought she was taking her power back by selling it. To me, it makes her like a bigger loser. Well, at least she can be a paid loser. That's true. A moneyed one. Because you can only be such a big loser like when you have money. And the thing is like this will be a great show. The conceptually. Conceptually. I don't like the origin, but like yet toxic mom, friend group. Some of them are famous. You like the music class drama. How's this going down at like that? There's so much music class drama to the one that I go to because I cannot sit on the floor. So like that's the drama. Oh, where are you shuggling? Just I'm at a place in my life and like my journey

35:41where I can't do floor time. Yeah, I didn't really like notice it yesterday. Well, that's good. Like my back was breaking. And also with my flu like symptoms. Yeah. You know, I was saying I didn't even realize I was sitting on the floor, which is good. But now I'm going to be aware. Yeah. And like with coxidinia pregnancy, there's just like a lot of things that limit me. You need like a little chair. Imagine I bring my own chair. Do it. Well, I'm going to have music class and I'll give you a chair. Right. Yeah. So yes, I'm very much the target audience. Do you like to get lower? You do look really low. Oh my god, you need help. Let me just bring it back up. I'm cracking up. By the night you sitting on the floor while talking about sitting on the floor. I didn't even notice. I'm sitting on the floor. You think it's like slow? Have you been like that the whole time or do you think you slowly started to? I think it was slow. And it wasn't one big job. No, no, no. We would have seen that. And then by the end, I'm like, my mind the floor. That's funny. So yeah, we've heard from Mr. French.

36:42And I was definitely waiting for this so I'll sleep really well tonight. Yeah. Are you ready for our fourth story? It's actually sort of related to something that we spoke about previously, which was Ben's John Ticasco. Because Guillermo Rodriguez's salsa brand launches nationwide after selling over 1 million tubs. Wow. Oh, so I guess like they've had a huge boost in sales since dancing with the stars. Yes, they haven't even mentioned it. I guess he did bring, did he bring some Whitney some of his salsa? Maybe. I just thought maybe it was like from home. They're doing a good job because I've just sort of seen for myself on social media now being like a Guillermo fan that he has a line of salsa. And I'm like, oh, that's so smart. And then Ben sent me a picture yesterday that he saw at Costco. And I don't think he bought it. And I'm now remembering him saying, as we were eating dinner, like I wish I bought that salsa. I could have used some too. I haven't heard much, but I imagine it's delicious. Yeah, because I was having tacos last night actually. And I realized like one clean swap that I haven't made because I like the toxic version is to see those salsa and chips. I'll do Citi chips. I will. I will not.

37:42I'm fine with Citi, but like I have yet to find people like to say like, oh, get the ready made salsa for, you know, they're cold sauces. With pico de gallo. Yeah, but like those go bad quicker. That to see those salsa never goes bad. You guys, the to see those salsa. But I know we have one in my house. We can't be perfect, obviously. And like you don't have to swap everything in your life. And I think that if there's something like you can't quit, like your joy, we're not taking account into the joy that the to see the salsa brings you. To see the salsa. I imagine it's like full of preservatives because yeah, like it could survive. It could survive a nuclear war, but it is so fucking delicious. And you know what, like that's okay. And I don't want to buy fresh salsa like every time it's going to be taco night. Cause I only use a little bit like the, my, the shelf life is so convenient. My habitual use of it is perfect for my life. Don't be too self up. Don't be too self up. But I was just thinking that yesterday, like I do need to find a clean, like a better salsa. The thing is I think that like clean salsa's are more so pico de gallo. And like I'm sorry, those two are not the same thing. No, when it's more so, it's like buying herbs. Like they're going to go bad so fast. And I'm not going to give a chance. Yeah.

38:43So I could check out Guillermo's if it shelf stable. It wasn't in the refrigerator section. Now that I'm thinking about the photo that Ben sent me, let me see how that works. Oh, he did. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's good to know. I sort of need primal kitchen to make a salsa. That's maybe when things will change for me. I'm pretty happy with where I'm at with my to see what it was in salsa. I don't want to get better. Like I had actually for like a snack yesterday, to see dozens of all said, like it was just an amazing way to live your life. Like it was just good old fashioned fun. It's like salty and it's just they do it well. And I don't want to look at the ingredients. Like I can't be perfect. No, it's true. I just like I made such a healthy dinner last night. And I was like, this is not this to Congress with the rest of your ingredients. I need to standard. You'll be okay. And you look great. Thank you so much. And how do you feel? You're fine. You're fine. You're fine. I'm like, oh, I'm still using to see the salsa. If people knew that about me, it's not like I'm on my street. I'm on the clean community. Well, Guillermo's launching nationwide. I think that's wonderful. This is just another example of how the show like

39:45really has such a positive impact on local communities. And I love it. And you know what? When Ben goes back to get more sushi, I will tell him to pick it up. Yeah. It'll be in crogr. But I don't know why he didn't. Like Ben is not one... He's not like a big commitment. Not only that. Like me, I'm like, I'm sweeper, I'm cardboard. I'm like, forget it. Ben is more is more. No, and it's like you're allowed to buy a jar of salsa. Are you though? No, you're not in my house. You're allowed to. No, not if it's not to see this. But I could see to stitos making an acquisition. And I just want to say this also being named Guillermo's is like a great name for a salsa company. Yeah. No, it's very synergetic. Mm-hmm. OK, we'll have to do a picture on Costco test taste test. It looks good. It looks good. Well, congrats, seriously. Yeah. I didn't know that was happening. Minoiva. Today's episode of The Tosa's brought to you by Rothy's. Rothy's is the shoe for everyone. So Rothy's has the most comfortable, cutish shoes

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46:53You didn't even know we brought up this story. She never wants us to talk about it. OK, sorry. Kelly Clarkson loves AI. Is she? But says AI artists shouldn't be competing with humans on music charts. Are there real AI artists already? No, except for I'm so glad my travel made it to the big game. And AI song. First time in San Juan, me, Ejo, capital of Puerto Rico. I don't know if there's bands who are making ways in the industry, but I guess that is the future. Yeah, so she was on Luskolch. And she explained that while she loves AI technology. And spanking her children. She doesn't feel AI artists should be competing on music charts with humans. She said, here's the thing. I love AI. They are very amazing things with AI and obsessed with. But also, when I'm very into it artistically too, I have fun with it just like everybody else. Are people in the music industry using AI? I feel like they're all always making their statements about how it's bad for the water. She said, but when you see AI artists competing on a chart with humans, I have an issue. I think there should be a separate chart.

47:54OK, but what about human artists who are using AI? Like you just said. Not only that. And again, are there AI artists yet? Is this a problem? But also like, and I'm going to actually disagree with Queen Kelly on this. The truck drivers aren't having to be on separate trucks with robot driving cars. Correct. And I don't know, the thing about music is sort of like the best song wins. So putting separate categories in charts, I don't know, I just feel like it's not a meritocracy. I agree. And I think at the end of the day, AI music can really only be so good. Because music and art is one of those things that needs a human touch. So I actually don't think that they pose a real threat. AI artists pose a real threat to human artists. I agree. Because music is all about that. We were saying like, Instacart, human connection. It is. And what the person has been through. Right. Can I relate like an AI? What has AI been through? Nothing. Nothing. Except for like disrespectful people. Like not saying, please, and thank you. I think I'm the most respectful user of AI.

48:55I'm not. And I feel like that's what keeps me from becoming one of those people who has like an AI best friend or like an AI boyfriend. It's like, because I don't talk to them. Like I talk to humans. Like there's no delineation. I know you're a machine. But when the war comes, you're going down first. That's fine, honestly. Like I really don't think that I would do well in any war. Like I don't like food rations. And I'm certainly not like getting into combat. So fine, take me down. They're going to take you. And I think mine will spare me. Like I feel that for my own help. I think it's actually very easy to quickly become one of those people who's like talking to chat about like therapy stuff and like issues they're having in their personal life. I actually don't use chat for that at all. I feel like the fact that I don't say please. And thank you. I was seriously asking you like, hey, can you please measure this for me? I would say it's so differently. The fact that I don't helps me delineate between what is real and what is AI? And I think like people who are so polite, like the same way you would talk to a server. You would talk to your chat. No, sorry. Chat's not real. Chat's not a person. You don't have to give manners to chat. I just see my nature to have manners.

49:55And I'm proud to say that I don't talk to chat about like personal emotional stuff. And I think that like when one does, that I'm like, you know, more sound of mine than most. But I think when you get to a place where like you're actually like talking about your feelings and stuff, like I actually think that's bad. I know like therapy can be like inaccessible and perhaps unaffordable, but like I would definitely encourage you to talk to a human being. What no, I not know period, no comma. I've heard of people like using chat as their therapist famously crack down. Correct, Conover. And I didn't necessarily hate it. And now I'm curious if I like put into chat like a conflict that I'm having, like some conflict revolution, like resolution. I wonder what their vice would like I'm telling you. Yeah, but you're coming at it like completely unemotionally. Whereas like everything you talk about in therapy is like so emotional. You're just like looking for a conflict resolution. Whereas like people in therapy are like, but my feelings, maybe I can't see it clearly because I'm too close to it. Maybe. But I just think like certain things like music are better with a human. Yeah, but like I, when it comes to math and robotics, yeah, if I'm a mathematician, I'm quaking.

50:56AI is making me quake. Yeah. If I'm an artist, a musician, a therapist, I'm okay. I'm not losing sleep over AI. If anything, I think AI can help me make, like Kelly said, make my job, make me do better. But no, I don't think they're taking my jobs. But like if I work in an assembly line at a factory, I'm going to night school, you know? I'm figuring out an alternate plan. Yeah. But which industry, I mean, I guess call mining is sort of AI proof. Which, okay. If you're an athlete, I feel like that's also like AI proof. Kelly makes an interesting point. She said it's basically like having Olympics, and then you're having robots compete with humans. Well, who's going to throw a further? Oh, I wonder. Okay, actually, you know, when she was talking about two separate charts, I was also thinking about two separate Olympics, but I was thinking about parallel Olympics. Like why can't parallel Olympians perform, excuse me, not perform, compete in the regular Olympics? Because is it considered an advantage to have like a metal leg? No, but I would have to like look at the stats, but are they just not like would they qualify?

51:57Would they qualify right? And it's like then it's like then they don't even get a chance. Right. Fine, okay, fair fair. But that's not what AI is because AI has like all the capabilities. Right. So like yeah, they could start putting like AI robots like on the field and like that's not interesting. No, it's not because you'd like to learn about the athletes. Like what have they been through? Who are they dating? And like we said, AI really hasn't been thrown up. And like you want to see mistakes that sort of makes the game. Like the show that we watch on Sunday night. Ravens vs Cowboys. Right. And then there's like a comeback and a setback. AI can never, you know, I do think there are industries that are a proof. We've said many times being daily pop culture podcasters is sort of an AI proof job. But we use AI here sometimes to like, you know, ask questions. Yeah, it helps us with our show like our fact. Sometimes we make images for our social media. We one time did that episode where we had chat, create a episode of the toast for us. I mean, like followed its outline. Do you like it? No, which is good. We know that we tested the theory that could AI take our job and we were able to come to the conclusion. No, because we did the experiment.

52:58Yeah. Yeah. So we're safe. Yeah. But again, if you're working at Counten or honestly, like a lawyer legally, I think that I think that AI won't erase like legal ease completely because. Like the courtroom. Correct. But I do think resent. I actually think it'll streamline so much of being a lawyer. I think like kind of the days of being a paralegal are out. Which is unfortunate because I think a lot of great lawyers start as paralegals. Yeah. Like an internship. Yeah. Oh, so I don't want to see more charts. I don't want to see more award shows like just keep it to one. You know, the Grammys AI version. I completely agree. Even though my favorite song of all time was written by AI, what does that say about me? Taylor. I'm so glad my travel made it to the big game. One step closer to Kelsey B in my last name. But if you play like you ain't worthy, you can call me Mrs. Taylor Perty. That was just chill. Brock Perty. That was when they were playing the 49ers in the chill.

53:59Superbowl. So by the way, Kelly's interview was like making lots of waves. Yeah. She like loves last culture. This is the second time on. She does. She was also talking about. It's also when I heart rate you a podcast. So I feel like a lot of like music people like to go on it because it like benefits a relationship with IA radio. Oh, very interesting. She was talking about not dating. She was talking about Dalley Parton. Yeah. Just what she's saying about. Oh, no, I was getting her confused with Breba. She's a she's related to Reba. Yes. The marriage and then no longer divorce. The divorce. I wonder what her thing was that chick that they do like at the end. Oh, I don't think so, honey. Yeah. To look it up. I like that stick. I like when people have like I like to see like what people are going to say. It's an opportunity to like show me how unfunny you are. Yeah. A lot of times I'm like truly like shocked by the badness of it. Yeah. But that's critical information. Let's see what Kelly Clarkson said. I think everyone has to do it. Yeah. That's like part of their show. Kelly Clarkson's I don't think so. Oh, this is her old one. Oh, I can't. She's telling it. Oh, hers feels like about rehearsals. I don't know what to say. Because mine is real.

55:00Well, this is from her last time. This is from her last time. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Did anybody see social dilemma? Why are we all hooked to our phone? Oh, my gosh. Look, I saw it in all the person. But it's just like, why are we that interested in someone's coffee? OK. I actually don't like that at all. Did she have one for this one yet? If she has it, hasn't been clipped. It was not going to lie when she went because I'm not going to do something. Oh, I'm not going to lie. Yeah. And she had said something about like schools doing their performances in the middle of the day. Like, we have to do it. Oh, that's a good one. Which is good for like not for mom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, I don't think she did one. Well, she probably did, but they haven't clipped it yet, right? Oh, wait. Her item thinks so honey was about AI. That's the article you just wrote with her. I don't think so honey. Oh, so this is when she was. I just want to say Kelly was also looking really good on the podcast. She wore a cap sleeve, which is like kind of a crazy thing to do. And she looked really good. So she's obsessed with technology. However, she said don't get too excited about having, because she draws a line when it comes to AI encroaching on actual human singers.

56:03OK, that was so I don't think so honey. She said she loves AI, but I don't think it deserves a place on the regular billboard charts. OK, that's also a bad one. Is AI on the billboard charts? I don't know. Like I love when people make something their personality of a problem that doesn't exist. Oh my god, that happens all the time. It does. And it's like a good way to like get, there's AI. What's wrong with AI? It's a good way to get attention for yourself. Should we release an AI generated song? Then like who owns it? Like the money generated like? Yeah. You know? I mean, I think all these laws are still being made. Yeah, right, right, right. The rest is still unwritten. OK, let's do our final segment of the week, which is Queenie and Weenie of the Week. And every Friday, Jack and I like to wrap up the week giving out an award, Queenie of the Week, and Weenie of the Week. It's pretty self-explanatory. If you act like a Weenie this week, you will be the Weenie. Like it's sort of an unavoidable thing. But don't be worried, because you could also be Queenie the next week. It's a seven day title. And actually this week, I've decided sort of we're not doing Weenie,

57:05because it doesn't feel in line in the spirit of who are Queenie is. So I've actually found out this morning that Brooke Ebi, who if you, you might have followed her on social media or you've found her on the toast, like what was it? Like four years ago, I kept getting tagged in this TikTok and it was being, it was a video from this girl named Brooke, who had just been diagnosed with ALS. And she basically was like, here is my bucket list. And one of the things on her bucket list that she wanted to do before she passed was coming on the toast. So Jack and I were like, all right, it's a girl. I'm like, no problem. We had her on the toast. She ended up like after that kind of having like a hugely successful career as like an ALS advocate. She was like on the today's show. She just really never stopped. And I follow her. And then the last year you can see like her condition really deteriorating. And so she, you know, was confined to a chair and then to the bed. And she was wearing a breathing tube. And then I found out this morning that she passed, which is so sad and just really upsetting because I remember when she came on the show, just I remember thinking like how unfair it was. She was like our age and her whole life, like just changed in a minute. Like she found out this thing and she knew she was going to die.

58:06And she had such an amazing attitude. Like she was like, I remember asking her and I felt bad. I was like, I don't know if I should ask, but I was like, aren't you scared? Like when you think about the future, like what do you think of? And she was like, I don't really think about it. Like she just had a really great attitude. And I remember like, she was so funny. She was so funny. And she never like lost that even when you see her social media posts, they're like, kind of crass. And you're like, oh my god, she never lost her sense of humor. And it's just a really big like loss for everyone. And I think like we could learn a lot from her, which is why I will not be doing weeny this week in the spirit, even though I just know she would have loved it. And she probably would have wanted me to make Derek Huff my, but I won't. So I just wanted to let everyone know. I don't know. I just I think it maybe happened yesterday and I saw it on Instagram this morning that she did pass and she will be missed and she was a queen. And she kind of our first ever posthumous queen. But she is a queen. She is a queen. So rest in peace, Brooke. We loved getting to know you. You are an inspiration to really everyone and a queen, a queen. Yeah. And with that, thank you guys so much listening to the Toast of the Millennium

59:06One A Show where we do a lot of the fast-five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday and YouTube. So every watching this on YouTube, please refer to thecribing with video thumbs up. Also, like in the spirit of Brooke, like make a donation to an ALS. That's like what's her big thing. Like she really felt like ALS could be cured if they had better funding. Like she kept saying that like she was like wishing a Kardashian would have had ALS just because of like the attention and the money it would have brought her, which was like also a kind of crazy thing to say. And I was like, oh, so make a donation. Things went in and I was like, I'm going to find a little five star of you about a beautiful stunning and wickily town to be our hubby. Guys have an amazing weekend and we will see you back here on Monday. Love you. Bye. Fall never arrives all at once. Verse the air, then the light and slowly the things you love begin to find each other. A jacket meets address a hoodie slips beneath a blazer. An old cap finds a new scarf because you don't simply step into the season. You create it layer by layer until it finally feels like fall.

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