784. Kevin Estrella

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1:01It's fall in jeep country and during the driving to fall sales event get a great deal on four by fours that refuse to be contained like jeep Wrangler confidence built into every drive with the most awarded SUV ever jeep grand Cherokee and freedom that can't be denied with the open air freedom and jeep gladiator After 85 years, it's no surprise that jeep became America's SUV brand get a great deal during the jeep drive into fall sales event jeep is one more awards over its lifetime than any other SUV brand jeep and the jeep grill or register trade marks of FC a uslc Hello and welcome to the show. I'm Martin Willescher host and my guest tonight Kevin Astrala needs a guitarist and composer behind the instrumental rock project pyramids on Mars

2:04Kevin has reached out to me for a long time and I finally decided hey let's hear what he has to say He has a he had a UFO encounter back in 2014 in august that changes life leading to experiences he describes as telepathic communication unusual dreams and musical downloads there's been a lot of people that have talked about the different types of downloads and musical downloads over the years. I've heard a lot of people just Oh saying that all these people must have a download of some kind some great music or they were doing mushrooms or whatever it was but anyway I thought it was very interesting and I know there's been a lot of people that claim they feel like they get a download of lyrics that just come to mind all of a sudden things like that but anyway just a little housekeeping here this coming Tuesday we have Roy Teague on and this is his image what he's he sent me this picture of him I'll dress up like this and his what he's going to be talking about is his book but also a lot of investigation

3:09of police encounters UFOs and this is in the UK so he'll be joining us in the middle of the night over there and then I'm real excited to have the show coming up on this next Thursday on the 24th at 8 p.m these shows are always at 8 p.m. Eastern and less announced otherwise so this one I've been working with Dave Beatty who helped me with the Alex Dietrich interview if you haven't seen that there's it's getting a lot of action there's a lot of people really interested in the great things that Alex Dietrich has to say so Dave Beatty of course has the Nimitz encounters film he's coming out with a new updated documentary it's beautiful I did get to watch it we're going to be talking about that but I have to say more importantly we're going to have someone that has never spoke about this publicly he was the chief let me see what his position was before I say it he was an enlisted petty officer on the USS Nimitz primary flight control that witnessed the whole thing when all these things happened also

4:11when the men came on and they took the recordings he had to sign an NDA and he's providing all of that very interesting information so this is going to be the first time that he's ever spoken about this encounter and how it has affected his life so make sure you stay tuned for that that's next Thursday at 8 p.m. on the 24th and so as far as our blog this week please visit podcastUFO.com and it is a 1976 UFO occupant report from the Canary Islands again by our great blogger and history buff and author Charles Lear check out all those I'll try to get some of those audio blogs out to you here on the podcast and on YouTube a lot of people really enjoy those my guests for some reason just vanished on the screen down below hopefully he'll be right back I'm not sure exactly what happened but let me see what I got here to tidy us over

5:14I'm going to look in chat so anyone have any questions for me this week our guest just disappeared suddenly and hopefully he'll be right back here he is he's coming back all right Kevin you're back what happened I don't know what's going on you've been abducted yeah yeah yeah I'm just taking this fix though yeah so those of you are watching this live you can see Kevin has quite the background behind him now are those things you had images you had made or you have painted or where did those come from they are portraits by Sue Walker to understand she and I she was contact these who was behind me these are actually they are the Ponte they are from the planet Pontelle which is a fifth planet orbiting Zeta particular I too Sue Walker is a professional telepath who's worked with the FBI CIA she's been on TV and

6:16documentaries as a as a professional psychic and she lives in Albuquerque New Mexico and one day her and her husband were watching of the voice one of those acting things and said this guy's really good he should win and then a voice came from the sandy amountants in Albuquerque New Mexico saying you should win and then it's like where this it was a telepathic voice eventually we found out that it was Commander Tiltum who was speaking to her and to bring these up the speed Sue began communicating with them telepathically and they opened a Twitter account which has been running since 2016 and Sue Walker does portraits so these are all portraits of Ponte so that's take think of the things of the speed of who is these people who were behind me I see I see and so anyway let's talk about your musical interests how you got involved in because I think you

7:20emailed me quite a while I'm gonna say a number of years ago I believe first you've been at this quite a while right in this this topic was 2014 is when you first contacted me I'm not sure I don't know it's been I've been doing radio interviews since about 2015 that's what I started I've done over a hundred interviews I have my own UFO radio show pyramids amars UFO radio on the artist's first network and we just had our 10th year anniversary last month so I'm very I'm very involved in this subject because it's part of my birth contract so to speak pre-birth earth contracts to do this and the content I have continuous extraterrestrial contact on a weekly basis and how is that contact believe or not usually it's just the ponety showing up here but they're

8:20usually invisible but they they my place is a safe place because they have a lot of trainees who come from who are here getting trained who come to visit people and my place is a place for them to get used to going to earth humans homes and so they'll be here it could be invisible until sometimes just tapping the back of my shoulder if I'm playing my PlayStation 4 they just love to watch me playing video games and they'll bump the back of the couch sometimes they make comments telepathically and I'll pick up those side thoughts and answer them so it's it sounds crazy as it sounds it's actually it is true these things are happening and there's a lot more there's a lot more than visit stations of the things that they do around here it's extensive okay as I mentioned prior to us starting I'm kind of a nuts and bolts guy so a lot of times I ask people how can you in a situation like this how can you convince me this is really happening how do you like that question

9:27like we're trying to we're trying to get to get things as quick as possible but it happened to give him much of a background story in regards to how this all started for me so it's jumping into it is what's where to start to explain it okay I've seen the I've seen the Pawntie physically I've had interactions with them in Astral as well in the Astral Realms and I've had a lot of extracurricular visitations in altered states lucid dreams or when you get into the alpha theta state that's when a lot of star nations start to they can make contact with you in altered states so this is how they make contact I have I've had a number of people that have told me over the years that they feel as though they're contacting with the football season underway it's time to see how your predictions are shaping up CalShi America's number one prediction market platform let you trade

10:29those predictions in a live market LA is trading at 53% to beat Denver meaning a hundred dollar trade pays out 183 with a win download CalShi use code heart to get $25 when you trade 25 18 plus only restrictions and eligibility apply trading involves risk not available in all jurisdictions prices values and markets make different from those mentioned for more see CalShi.com slash regulatory CalShi trade on anything McDonnell's is putting value back on the menu whether you're craving a big Mac McNuggets or sausage egg and cheese McGridels make it a meal and save your favorite is now your wallet's favorite two extra value meals are back Sun rises prices fall get a sausage McMuffin with egg or sausage egg and cheese McGridels small hot coffee and hash frowns for just six dollars price and participation may vary promotion pricing may be lower than meal pricing with the football season underway it's time to see how your predictions are shaping up CalShi America's number one prediction market platform let you trade those predictions in a live

11:31market LA is trading at 53% to beat Denver meaning a hundred dollar trade pays out 183 with a win download CalShi use code heart to get $25 when you trade 25 18 plus only restrictions and eligibility apply trading involves risk not available in all jurisdictions prices values and markets make differ from those mentioned for more see CalShi.com slash regulatory CalShi trade on anything you're saying altered states when they are in an altered state they feel as though that they've been contacted even and in the preff professional world I'm in the arts and antiques someone told me that I forget exactly what they were make should I say experimenting with I'm not really sure but they said that they were convinced that they were contacted. Okay when I say altered states this is not no drug use I got it okay this is when you drop into alpha theta state so it's when you're in that state between a wake and a sleep so you're not dreaming but you're not awake and you're in that at state there that's when they start to show up and I may feel them someone touched my

12:35arm they may start talking to me and then all of a sudden I see them in either the asterol irrealms like in my astral body or they show up in a altered like a like lucid dream state and I understand about the lucid dream too you know I mean you can it seems like you're in a different realm and you can maybe be more open to things it's a safer environment because if you remember the movie war of the worlds why did those aliens die at the end of the movie because they were infected by germs from earth and they same thing here where they may have or we may have germs that may affect them or they may have stuff which affects us so by meeting us in altered these altered states of consciousness because it's all consciousness based it's a lot more of a safer environment and the fact that actually if you can do that because you have to be a certain level of advancement as a human being first of all to put your fears down because they

13:36cannot visit you if you'd have any fear that breaks one of the third rules it's caused no fear do no harm leave no trace those are three rules of ponte explained to us that extraterrestrials star nations can be have to cannot break those rules so you have to get rid of your fear in order for them to first be able to visit you then if you can be able to get into altered states these things and astral travel they can it's easier for them to make contact here's a question from and thank you all for being here in chat always nice to see you all here and so this is from Tony he's from the UK is the invisibility ethereal or technological that's your question for you that's a good question and to answer the to be a lanta question i still am not too sure i think that it could be technological talking from sue they use technology

14:36in order to be able to walk through walls and open portals be able to walk through wall so that's how they that's how they get here so i think with the invisible it could be technological as well so walker has seen them physically like she's gone into her garage to get something from the fridge and then she saw two alien hands on a wheel pretending to drive and then she said busted and all of a sudden the hands disappeared she's also seen in their their living room which looks like square glass pads all of a sudden laid up like a night pad which technically your technology that they had all these things so they it's a mix between the two now what you're talking about planets here so you you think these are from a location and not something that has been here for a long time or something that is in another dimension or anything

15:38are they saying in your opinion are they communicating to that these are from a certain you said off of said a particular i believe the fifth whatever you said yes that's their home planets but they operate out of an information station under the sandia mountains since about two miles below this has nothing to do with the sandia military base absolutely nothing to do this actually this location that they're in was part of an early human settlement that was last occupied about 60,000 years ago so they refurbished about 10% of their own use and also changed to be able to control the environments and the the air and stuff like that it's one of three or four main extraterrestrial stations here on earth it's not just used by the ponty but it's used by other star nations that's just when you say underground someone just popped this up what is your

16:47take on the inner earth beings is that kind of what you're talking about they when you how far downing you're saying you know I mean oh two two miles two miles down both two miles down but they're not they're not part of the inner earth beings there are inner earth beings yes there are but there are other locations the earth is quite complex there's a lot of people who do a lot of people here and there's reptarians who live underground as well so you know when they say reptarians there's a difference between reptarians or reptilians reptilians are off planet reptarians are indigenous to earth and they were here before humans they were one of the first people here before us all right here's the question I've asked other people so I might as well ask you as well so it makes me wonder if you think of the vast universe in the trillions of stars out

17:48there why would we be so special to have all this going on our little blue marble here and why would we be this special that we be having this type of visitation in your opinion earth is a very important planet it was put here on purpose in this location of the galaxy and to make it quite simple why are they here you're not going to believe me when I tell you the answer because they the potty of told us it's about the water it's all about the water they say do you realize how rare water planets are so I thought I've heard otherwise from astrophysiceth there's probably a lot of water planets planets but maybe I'll be open to hearing or looking into that more but here's another question for you here do you think music and alien sightings of craft go hand in hand music and the site yet in a certain sense

18:56yes there was a book that was written by Michael C. Luckman called Alien Rock which talks about how many musicians have been contacted by extraterrestrials or a senior foes and it seems to be quite makes exclusive to musicians we're talking about everybody from Elvis to to to ace freely of kiss to all the members of yes David Bowie Britney Spears just so many musicians have had extraterrestrial contact or have seen UFOs or it's quite extensive and grand Cameron who is a UFO researcher here known he has also written a book on this subject as well he was supposed to collaborate with

19:56Michael C. Luckman but Michael passed away so Grant took up this himself and he wrote a book as well which documents all the same thing as what I'm telling you about how many musicians have been contacted by extraterrestrials and also about musical downloads and in fact actually I'm in Grant Cameron's book there's one section of a chapter which it talks about the experience of mine where one of my songs was literally it came to me in a dream I didn't write the song it just came to me in a dream I woke up went down to my computer in my studio and wrote down everything that I heard hence this dream and so that story is in his book and the book is called tuned in the paranormal world of music with the football season underway it's time to see how your predictions are shaping up Calche America's number one prediction market platform let you trade those predictions in a live market L.A. is trading at 53% to beat Denver meaning a hundred dollar trade pays out 183 with a win download Calche use code heart to get $25 when you trade 25 18 plus only restrictions

21:03and eligibility apply trading involves risk not available in all jurisdictions prices values and markets make differ from those mentioned for more ccalci.com slash regulatory Calche treat on anything McDonald's is putting value back on the menu whether you're craving a big mac McNuggets or sausage egg and cheese McGrittle's make it a meal and save your favorite is now your wallets favorite two extra value meals are back get a big something extra with a big mac or 10 piece McNuggets fries and a medium coke all for just nine dollars limited time only promotion pricing may be lower than meal pricing just so what exactly happened in on August 21st 2014 that was the day that completely changed my life that was basically it was 10 30 at night I had just put my kids to bed and I went out on my porch I live in Hamilton Ontario and we live in a

22:05a very a sub a very large subdivision just off of upper James which is one of the main streets here in Hamilton and within seven seconds I'll be stepping on to my deck they're appeared from behind my neighbor's tree on my right hand side this object that came out from behind the tree so this tree is about what's about 30 feet away from me and then this object is about a hundred yards away from me it was lined up with the tree and it came out and what it was this glowing disc orange-ish red glowing light coals that was going across the sky only about 100 maybe 125 feet off the ground and was moving across the subdivision and it was extremely close and I when I first saw this thing I didn't know what I was looking at I thought it was a meteor that was coming into the atmosphere and but then I realized wait this thing is it's moving like the speed

23:09of a helicopter it's moving really slow and this thing is actually flying over the subdivision and I was like completely freaked out and also the other strange thing about it is I can seem to have missed they came off the top of it and off the bottom but it looked like smoke or missed I didn't know what I was looking at and the other thing about this thing was that like I said it was orange-ish red glowing light coals but it was like too dimensional it had height and width when I had no depth it looked as flat as a piece of paper so that was the other thing I was throwing the off was the physics of this thing it didn't make any sense I'd never seen anything like this on my life and it moved across just the distance of my backyard and then it turned away from me and started going south towards Binbrook and then at that point when it turned and its nose was facing away from me I could see that it was an all-blown shaped like a football crack like a seed almost and it had no late at all it was as black and I found it later because I

24:13reported it to Mufon and what they said I saw with the orange-ish red that was a plasma stream so you can see plasma from one angle but you can't see it from other angles and I wouldn't that person myself so it was a physical craft that actually flew across my backyard and it did freaking out it totally freaked me out I was upset for two weeks because I wanted to have a UFO experience and I wasn't ready for it I didn't even know what a big you're wrapping your head around physics that you've never seen it was nice yeah I remember when I had my encounter that got be involved in this it's like it was a paradigm shift it wasn't part of the world I was ready for I mentioned many times if I had a camera on me I probably wouldn't have never thought to take a picture it just you just didn't engulfed in it but yeah so had you what was your thoughts about this this whole subject prior to this I have been I've been passionate and a

25:18fanatic about extraterals for a long time since I was in university that's kind of where it became for me back in university we're talking like 91 one of the guys in our on our floors he had internet and nobody had internet back in 91 but he did and he had downloaded all these schematics from Bob Lazar on this UFO that he worked on at Area 51 and I became fascinated with it and the subject UFOs are real and so then I started buying but Hopkins books on alien abductions and I was just all in and spent years studying this and then when we finally got internet I was watching all these videos from Richard Holblund on the anomalies on Mars and on the moon and was diving deep into the the evidence of bases on the moon and artifacts on Mars so I was really involved in this

26:18and educating myself I wonder what happened to Richard I'm sure he's long retired at this point but he was active I don't know maybe five years ago and I haven't heard much from him since I have an either yeah yeah but he was he was on weekly for a while on the same channel that I was on on radio yeah so anyway it's it is very interesting what you're saying but are these you mentioned that these are not physical forms but your friend saw hands so they can be physical which kind of makes almost you're saying it's related to consciousness and that they're the the ponety are physical beings they are definitely physical beings they I have seen them in the physical form once once I showed up of my apartment and it was

27:23PETA that I've seen them in physical form Sue has seen them in physical form in her place so we know that they are physical but they can also show up and be invisible and do things and or they can show up in in those dimensional forms as well like in lucid dreams or alt acid or hold them to go astrograms as well what are you aware of why they are here and what they want yes first of all the ponty they've been their their history of being on our planet that goes back 136,000 years they've been here this long but the reason that they're here as much as they are now is because they're preparing us for official first contact they are trying to make contact with us and just like Trump has been releasing all this information and all these UFO file dumps

28:27things are really starting to progress and I believe that something big is starting is going to be happening within this year and 2027 that nobody will be able to deny that we are not alone in this universe so the ponty made me aware that this year was a very important year for disclosure and that they wanted me to be doing more interviews to introduce their people to the world and so that's what I'm doing as many interviews as I can and that's my contact did you and okay and are they focusing on certain places and people is that what it is I'm just trying to understand your thoughts on this and how they come to you and your people that you know and stuff like that and is it through portals is it how do they get here and do they stay here when they come here and leave back and forth or is this something they're

29:30contacting us from all the way from where they're from they have their ships here on earth they fly their ships so when they come to visit me they they're actually taking physical ships to to fly and visit me it only takes them about five or ten minutes to fly to my place from Albuquerque they do for when they're traveling back to their home planet I don't know all the technical as regards to how they do that but they do use technologies to jump different points and stuff like that I don't know I don't know how they I can't explain it but there are definitely its physics that are different than us and do you believe that they're just coming from that one location all around wherever they go from let planet Ponteau no from Albuquerque area send you the Ponte are operating in that vicinity there are there's another information

30:36actually trust your information station in the Tasman Sea and there's one in Europe that I'm aware of but they kind of stated their own jurisdiction the Ponte are not going over to Australia or there they stay in North America and North America is where they operate okay um all right right and do you you said like you had that one UFO encounter in your backyard have you seen anything since that time as far as foes go oh yeah yeah one one time I was up at my house my son was bouncing on his trampoline I look up in the sky and I saw a big long cigar cigar craft flying just underneath the clouds it was long silver had no windows they had no wings

31:37and it was just was going across the sky with the speed of a of an hour of a regular airplane and I'm telling my son Ryan look up look how there's a UFO and you wouldn't look up but it was huh it was quite cool I've also seen my son my oldest son had a UFO encounter downtown Hamilton that was was only isolated to him who was the Ponte who did it and they had their one their skipper ships hover between two of the tall skyscrapers in downtown Hamilton and be malted across the the road and he saw it and he asked was asking me all the questions like how far away is NASA from here do they have this kind of craft I'm like what are you talking about and eventually you drew what he saw and he's my son is he slept 17 when he when this happened and the Ponte they confirmed that it was them so they and the way we would you expect that it would be the on the news that everybody would be

32:42like taking pictures of this thing and it would be like front page news the Hamilton spectator the thing is it doesn't work that way they're able to shut down people and just have contact with the people that they want to have contact and that's why when I had my contact in 2014 and I set my report to Mufon Mufon did an investigation and there was nobody else who had reported this UFO the night that I had seen it and they had checked if they verified I went a whole bunch of things and I eventually Grand Camer would explain to me that they do this they can make contact with people and shut other people down to have the contact with the people that they want and then it was only the last two or three years that I was with Sue Walker in Albuquerque and we had a chance to talk to the Ponte at the mountain I was having a conversation and they explained to me that that ship was one of theirs it was their ship all right we have some questions here from

33:46people Kim wants to know any idea what they're thinking for an effective first contact it's definitely not going to be landing a UFO on the White House lawn I'll tell you that no yeah they this is where it gets tricky they wanted to have official first contact in 2021 that was the end of a treaty a 50-year treaty that was signed by I don't know who signed it but it was certain nations here on earth and a certain extraterrestrial nations that made it an agreement that no official first contact would happen for at least 50 years for them to give the people enough time for them to educate people on the subject so that treaty expired in 2021 we were anticipating that something was going to happen at that point but if you remember that was the height of the pandemic and the world was in complete chaos and so they had to change their plans

34:47of it and decided that they were going to be doing more UFO having more daytime and nighttime sightings of UFOs and that's why if you've noticed in the last five years where UFO reports are going like crazy because they're showing up they're showing themselves all the time now trying to get people to look up in the skies and get off their iPhones and look up and see that there are ships and now we have these reports of orbs and and drones on the United States and people are talking and that was this has been a slow disclosure to not scare people to get them kind of used to the idea that we have extraterrestrial visitors who are trying to make contact with us and there's reasons why there's why it's need to be happening now. Yeah a lot of people have been talking about 2027 I think that was thrown out there about three years ago and so I actually asked a certain person that everyone was leaning on the 2027 and it

35:53did come to a dead end of someone else that I know no never went any further than that so I don't know where all that came from but here's another question here from also from Ken why is open contact important in your opinion. It's not necessarily it's not my opinion it's why it's what the Ponetie are explaining to us and this is science. Our planets there's a lot of changes going on right now if with our sun and with our planet and we are in the midst of an extinction level event so there's a lot of things we have to be concerned about the the sun has been giving off coronal mass ejections more and more in the last couple of years there is we are in a section and we are not stagnant in space we are moving the whole solar system is spinning and we are going

36:57through an area that the Ponetie is say is a very turbulent zone of magnetic anomalies and and dust that is affecting all our plant affecting the sun it's affecting all the planets and it's it's cyclical it happens to read 12,000 years so this is normal this is a normal process it's not the first time the earth has gone through an extinction level event and it's happening now and there are concerns that there things may escalate to the point where the sun might go no micronome and that's the reason why the United States the why these the military have built all these underground bases and cities to move underground for these cataclysmic events which they're anticipating are going to happen the other problem the other issue is the earth is precariously it may it may turn over we're talking about a magnetic field yes

38:03do you know what do you know of geomatic egg excursion where the where the poles shift and then the planet is going to literally tilt 90 degrees and it'll do that in a matter of 24 hours what happens to the water it gets displaced we're talking about mile high tsunamis we're talking about mass global devastation on the coastlines but the other problem is that now you have the water the earth is not complete it bulges out at the equator because the spin it bulges out about 20 miles what happens when you turn the planet then you do 90 degrees you got North America and you got South America what happens when you turn it this way where's the water going to go most of the United States and Canada are completely submerged it'll be submerged under about a mile of water so these are the things that we're worried about that's what they're concerned about

39:05so they want to they want to help us because we're going to need we're going to need assistance if for the people who don't think you don't believe what i'm saying if i would suggest if you have twitter follow then davidson at space weather news so he's a son scientist and he explains all of this and he's got many movies that they put out about this of what the geomanica excursion is and what what what what we are anticipating is going to happen is he an actual scientist at least so okay here's another question here from becath why have abduction seem to have bottle nectar decreased what kind of abduction are you talking about negative or the positive just posing the question there i'm not sure exactly yes so people just we can just move on well people are being picked up all the time

40:06Susie Hanson from New Zealand she wrote a book called the dual soul connection the the advanced agenda for for extraterrestrial contact and she explains about how many people are picked up and taken on into meetings to help and their people are showing we're talking about thousands and thousands of people in certain positions of power are being taken to meetings they don't remember them when they're because they submerge they suppress the memories but they're showing them the potentials of these cataclysm of planet and that they're going to be needing you to help people rebuild and assist with these potentials so there's people are picked up all the time i've been picked up probably four or five dozen times at least i don't remember the events but sometimes i do wake up with mosquito bites in the middle of winter which doesn't make any sense

41:07so yeah that's only time that i'll know that i've been taken somewhere and a meeting has taken place okay so we do have some other questions in here let's see another one dispatch wants to know do you feel some music will attract you and ufo to come and if so do they have an ability to hear better than us yes but the music what they what they explain to me and was that and they've been working with myth with us for a long time to me right here she explained that music can be communicated at a telepathic level and so music can be communicated in visuals and in the music itself in the in the emotions that's shared and it's communicated at a much deeper level it can be not all music's communicated that way but there it can be communicated at a telepathic level and so that's what they were they were working with me for years because i was

42:09they explained that i was already doing it with my music pyramids on Mars it was instrumented music but that i wasn't consciously aware of it so they started making me a little bit more conscious of it to communicate that music at a telepathic level to bring it out and they can hear me they can hear me in albacurky when i'm playing like a tarp telepathically they can hear me it depends on the kind of music and they have music on their planet too they have music they know their musicians too they also even have synthesizers but they're conscious they have consciousness to them we talked about this found this out i've always thought that there has to be music in other civilizations elsewhere it's like the universal language and its vibration and it's mathematic and there's so much more to it than what we hear but and i feel so that i do believe it's a it would be important to any being of intelligence

43:11myself but here's another question here from yarni do they have any kind of motives what do you think is our part in seeing and interact is our part in seeing and interacting and to try to understand the what the question is can you read it again what are their motives and do you think what do you think our part is in seeing and interacting with them they want to be friends they they want to get to know us they are they the haunti are cultural explorers they love a lot of things about us they love our culture they love our music they love our dance they love the taunti they have dance knobs they like dance they also put on

44:12shows for themselves in different cultures of us so sometimes they put on a culture a show where they're all banging on Japanese drums other times they're dressed up like cabaret dancers from the 1920s and 1930s they love our culture they want preserve preserve our culture if we have a chasiclatic logic event but they also are trying to make we're trying to meet for the first time to have interactions and then eventually we'll have extra trust rolls who will be making themselves known who are already here on the planet and that we've never been alone there are many extra trust rolls who are earth human who look earth human but they're not from here and they'll make themselves known eventually we've they've been here for a long time they've been integrated in our society for a long time one of the things that comes up often is how tribal we are here and

45:14we're such a warring society unfortunately and so how would they avoid to say if there was contact how would they avoid us doing what we always do and that's become a tribe and become violent and all that they can't love every part of us because we have some real weaknesses as a society as far as that they just overlook that type of situation they believe in us enough that we wouldn't blow them off the planet if we knew they were here that they're very concerned about that they've been concerned about a false flag alien invasion for a long time and that was also one of the top reasons why they changed their their plan in 2021 when they wanted to have official first contact because they're monitoring those who would like to have a false flag alien invasion you have to understand that they have reversed engineered these UFOs from the last 80 years

46:18there is there is a secret space program when they said when Trump talks about space force they already have ships out there in space with reverse engineered technology this has been going off for a long time when you get into like not whaffer and you get into solar warden with the the Nazis head flying saucers and it's been this thing that there's a huge it's that's a whole lot of topic on itself I have friends who are former speaker space program people like Penny Brad and so I'm part of these support groups for these people who have been in these different programs we're already gonna forget this first thing anyway it's a long complicated thing I'm afraid that we are a wary war-faring nation and we should not be in space we are not ready

47:18for contact and being out there in space we are like the klingons to other galaxies we shoot first we want to dominate we want to make money and that's not how that's not how they think up there they are buried they are thousands of years more spiritually advanced that we are it's about consciousness it's about oneness it's about spirituality and that we are all one we are all given if you want to know do extraterrestrial believe in the god yes they do they're closer to god than we are because they are telepathic nations so they are connected to the soup they know that we are all part of one consciousness so they're what they're very highly advanced spiritual beings I heard I heard someone say that they believed that the higher intelligence came from unconditional love I thought that was pretty interesting and a lot of ways that would that would work yes because that's if you have that then you're not blowing each other up for one thing

48:22if you're the other thing the pontine on their planet when they make decisions for their people on their planet they make decisions for the good of the all and they think not one not two not three not four they think seven generations ahead the decisions they make to affect what's going to happen towards the seventh generation of our people that's what far ahead that they think for the good for the all yeah okay let's see here's someone wanted to know if they could actually meet them I mean are they do they get a few folks I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you information you're gonna pull up your paper you want to meet them I can't tell you how all right pay attention everyone yeah as a potty say pay a pension to me wrote a book called the telepathy primer and it's a very easy read and it is to teach you how to develop your telepathy

49:26if you want to have extra-tressual contact this is what you need to work on is working on you're developing your telepathy so go to the website officialfirstcontact.com officialfirstcontact.com that's the pontines website the telepathy primer is available in 17 different languages most of it is pictures with small words it's very it's very easy quick read but it tells you about your learning styles whether you're a visual audio kinetic and your learning style because telepathy is communicated in multiple different ways it also teaches about communicating on a emotional wavelength they'll teach you it's you'll teach you all this kind of stuff you'll teach you about the amygdala in your brain turning your headlights on and projecting your consciousness out there and practice a half an hour a day for a hundred days and you will have contact now that contact may only be like you see like a star going across the sky you think it's a star and you say

50:31blink blink and it flashes back at you and that might be as much contact as you're ready for until you get to the point like me where they're like banging the back of your coach and saying hey what game are you playing there I wouldn't do that move that's dangerous okay so I'm not sure what this you may have to put your glasses back on who you operates the other your districts your your districts your districts I don't know actually I don't know I don't know what that question means but it means they're talking about the other nature the other basis because I said there's three or four bases and they're asking like who who operates those ones I don't know much about them unfortunately sorry but I do know that they are shared amongst many different extraterrestrial star nations just not the Ponty okay let's see and

51:34what is the importance I brought this up already what is the importance of music vibration harmony emotional response we talked about that yeah but also so that the Ponty have taught me a lot of things in regards to music itself with with melody and tonal language and and communicating at different wavelengths most of my music is recorded at 432 hertz which is a natural which is a natural it's that resonates with the Fibonacci code and gold ratio and also with the sacred geometry 432 the Ponty also like music they once tune mic of guitars to 528 hertz and I end up writing a whole bunch of songs on my album edge the black that were recorded at 528 hertz because they wanted me to go figure but

52:36to give you an idea they've actually told me how to write some of my music and I like what I write music I write melodies that are very catchy and they explained it to me in regards to tonal languages internal languages harmonic variations on repeating themes is strongly utilized repeating phrases in music are like rhyming phrases in spoken language and allow memorization and accurate retelling of the original story easier to learn and remember besides the intent of emotional sending out beyond the edges of time your music needs to have an introduction a climax and an ending use this idea of repeated music phrases and themes so clearly that your audience can easily recall it all the way home and hum it your musical writing set the intent of desire to feel it in the story with the physical body of your audience by creating a musical phrase they want to

53:40repeat and repeat in their thoughts and memories and I was written by Tenee those are her words okay here's another music related question from Polly is your music created based on your experiences only or do your songs include actual messages from the ETs and if so do you know these species is it all upon teen whatever you're calling them yeah some of my songs tell stories yes they do tell stories especially in my last album but they also one of the songs I wrote was they had given me a download musical download because Thera up here her specialty is in the tonal language of the whales and the cetaceans and it was explained to me that the whales speak a

54:43complex tonal telepathic language and I want to know if I could learn this and so they gave me a download one time and it took me three days to recover from this download it feels like your brain is like soggy cotton and you're tired yet to sleep full of time it was exhausting but it took me about six months to unlock that download and eventually I was working on the song called the Napf Laufan and I was working on the melody of that song and kept looping and looping and it was getting deeper and deeper and it felt like I was spinning when I was writing it and after I wrote that melody I was contacted by Sue Walker 15 minutes later she said to me in Thera just contacting me and told me that the melody that you just wrote you accessed the tonal language download that they gave you six months ago and they didn't say anything more than that I wrote the song and I wrote the melody and I'm listening to the song and after the sixth listen I heard that melody

55:52had a translation and it was saying do you hear me the the tonal language actually said do you hear me and I just started crying I was like oh my god I know what this what I'm saying I had contacted Sue and he said Sue that melody that I just wrote it actually has a translation it says do you hear me and then she typed back he says I'm hearing cheering coming for the mountain they said you're correct and they're sending the that information back to Thera who is now situated in the Tasmian sea base so yeah there's so much more levels to music a language that can be communicated and tonal languages also part of it that we can learn they have the they have so much they can teach us about things you but just blow your mind they had their official first contact 16 million years ago they've been traveling the galaxies for 16 million years just imagine what they can share with us wow hey T-bone thank you very much for that and thank you for your comment and everything so

56:58I appreciate that and yeah there's some great questions here tonight and I appreciate all your questions and I'm gonna try to get to a couple more of them we're right at the toward the end of our show here do you think they might be our saviors or could they just be ambivalent they're not our saviors and they don't want they don't want us thinking of them as our saviors they're they're people just like us they may be a little bit more advanced but they are so much like us it's not funny they joke around they laugh they play pranks on me these walls behind me are covered in chalk completely covered in chalk because they come here for the last year and they just start writing with chalk on the walls and just and my whole walls are covered in chalk and they keep coming there's a four-figured handprints all along the back wall lower back here and on the hallway at the top here there are actually these

58:03glyphs that are written in some kind of strange alien language I'm not making this shit up man one of the symbols looks like a omega symbol another looks like a Superman S and there's another symbol that looks like two herchis kisses and then there's another symbol that looks like a Japanese symbol like something like those Japanese I don't know what it means but I sent it to grand camera and I think he's gonna prepare eventually public a publisher book with this stuff the next one of the things he's working on I haven't seen him in a while he's a good guy here's a last question here at the end here why don't they reveal themselves better if they would like to be friends they are revealing themselves but they have to do it very slowly because they can only introduce themselves to the people who are ready and if you look around the planet we have devolved quite a bit just look at the politics in the United States and the crazy people who you know

59:08think that somebody who murders their three children is a hero you know are these people ready for extraterrestrial contact yeah that's unfortunate that's what social media will put out there it causes all this type of revelations that we never really knew before but the crazy armchair people that have these opinions to go purposely sometimes against the grain to make a statement I kind of like this did they evolve with one race in the planet I'm wondering what is their planet like did they and why are they not paying attention to their planet more and their paying attention to us that's a good question that's put there because we us humans we have a lot of ET DNA and us we've been tweaked at least 12 times over our history the ponte explained there are no

1:00:08pure races out there none they're all people share genetics with everybody else they're a genetics they're shared with everybody so many people have shared genetics out there in space so when they refer to an extra another extraterrestrial nation sometimes they will further them as brother sister how you doing in the same in the same sense as how we would say it to a friend of ours and we have a relationship so the gene genes are shared throughout the galaxy and there are many different types of their hybrids out there but we are a hybrid the ponte are hybrid everybody's a hybrid there are no pure inter no pure races out there all right well extent so where can people find your website and all that I think it's linked but I'll take a look yes it's official first con oh sorry that's that uh uh pyramids on Mars come is mine is my website and my radio show can be found

1:01:12at artistfirst.com so if you go to artistfirst.com there's a lot of shows on that network but if you'll see a small you see my picture is since pyramids amores click on that and it'll take you to my archive page and it has the all ten years of the interviews and you can click on any of them to download or listen to and I interview experiencers researchers hybrids people who have a little more ETD I've been doing the show for a long time so pyramids on Mars.com and official first and artistfirst.com are the best ones excellent thank you interesting conversation thank you thank you thank you thank you very much all right all right all right everyone so just remember we'll be back next Tuesday with Roy Tick from the UK on police officer encounters and then a week from tonight on the 24th we have David Bady and Jimmy Hernandez and he's going to be talking about his experience on the USS Nimitz during the tic tac encounter should be very interesting thank you all and remember to keep your

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