Topher Gardner: Melted Buildings, Geopolymers & Old-World Tech | NDS

0:00But when you really scrutinize them, they look like they were once, you know, structures with right angles and windows and archways that seem to have been melted, which is really bizarre. God will rain down with fervent heat. Once it solidifies, once that chemical reaction happens, it's not going to do anything but crumble. It's not going to melt. It's stone or like a geopolymer. It's homogenous. I knew that all the old structures of the old world were actually machines. They don't know that bricks are batteries. They don't know a stone. Even a geopolymer stone is a battery. So that tells you right off the bat that these people were much more advanced than we were. Productivity... ...topbble off some productions.

1:27Never look, this one. Never look, this one. This one. This one. This one. Welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another episode of Nephilim Desquad. I am David Lee Corboh, aka the Raven. That is Top Lops of the Father of Disinformation. What's up guys. And before we get into today's guest, a little reminder, if you want to support us, the place to do it is Patreon.com forward slash Nephilim Desquad. Sign up there, gain early access to episodes, add free listening experiences, as well as access to communities of dangerous retards on Twitter, telegram and Discord. And on the Discord in particular, there's Bible studies and all sorts of support groups, as well as a group fasting in prayer, which is longhand for the shorthand and the shorthand is FAP. So there's group mapping section over Discord.

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3:31So on the Patreon, you'll see the unlisted YouTube link and you can go there and check that out. Hey, catch us live at Truth or Con too. We have a lot of damn plugs, man. So we be plug it guys. Oh, Sam tripply is going to be here. We know. Come to Texas show up. It's going to be fun. It's bringing your bodies to Texas. November sometime truth or con.com go check that out. We have an ND squad per 10% off your tickets at truth or con.com. That's right. We got a great guest today. Returning guests, friend of the show, Toe for Gardner. What's up, man? It's good to see you guys. You are doing this and you know what I'm going to say to that? No you. No you, sir. No you. What's going on Toe for what what what what what are we where we find you? Where where is all your stuff? Where's your biochar? Where's your your Instagram? Where do people find whatever to lose up to? What's going on with Toe? What's your doing? All my media stuff is under the bio charisma moniker. So I have my own podcast. I you know interview you know guys like yourself.

4:32I have all my Instagram stuff, all the grams, the telegrams, the Instagrams. That's all at bio charisma. If you guys want biochar, you go to blackholdbiochar.com. That's my biochar company. And right now I'm in construction season. So we're just finishing up our latest build at the Barry Baratariat times National Festival campgrounds for this year's festival there. And we're we're building a big permanent bathroom for big bear and all this guests. So yeah all that type of work I also put on Instagram. I usually do like you know, dailies. I do a little short showing people like what we're up to there. So I can see. This is the most recent stuff as far as construction right that you're doing outside. Yes. Through a dome. It's not a dome. It's a earth bag cylinder with a reciprocal roof. So like if you go up the top right right there.

5:32If you if you just click on that, that's like a short little video. Earth bag. Yeah. Earth bags is that technology is super doby. It was invented by Nadeer Clilly. And then the reciprocal roof type of framing. That's like an old Navajo type of way of framing a roof where all your timbers are slightly off center. So it creates a spiral. So it's just like a really advanced teepee. It gives you an open center, which we usually put a cupola in. And this particular. A couple is just a raised centers that allows natural light to go in and ventilation to go out. And so this whole this whole bathroom has geothermal heating and cooling. So we ran about 150 feet, a four inch PVC pipe on about four and a half. I think it was closer to five feet underneath the ground. Oh, you look at this like the twirl of the spiral. Love it. Is that old? Yeah. Source lumber too.

6:32Yeah, that's all off the farm in my farm. We harvested 36 32 trees. So it has 16 members that we wanted a large overhang outside our overhang is about four feet. And that way in case it was raining and stuff like that, people could like, you know, congregate under some sort of roof outside. You really have opportunity there to for one more tree and you would have been in a secret society. Here's a funny thing. I had no idea this was going to happen. The internal diameter of the building is 21 feet. Our walls are 18 inches thick. So it ended up being that we had a 25 foot exterior diameter. But with the four foot overhangs, we have a 33 foot. There in the deep we're going to put it in there somewhere. I knew you couldn't resist over. All right. I'm sure I'm sure of it. Yeah, it'll have to go. Yeah, so go ahead. I'm sorry, to over. Yeah, tomorrow, big bear and I are live streaming and that will be our 33rd live stream together. So that's going to be funny.

7:34That's very strange string of coincidences here. We've talked about the to the audience about us potentially going to Barataria. We have so much going on right now at the studio where we're still we're talking to you about it before the show. If we do show up, it's going to be a down to the wire decision. So we're not even able to really give anybody inaccurate answer. There was a yes for a while. And it's just so full. What's up? You remember brogrove three. I think I so own was here. He was performed. This is the previous one. He was performing and he did a live stream with I think he did with Coddington or something like that from the hotel. Yeah. And the live stream went four hours and 44 minutes. Very strange. Very strange. The thing's going on. A little serendipity. The number 33 always popping up with David. I don't know why that is very weird. Well, if you got if you guys come, it'll be great because a lot of my crew will be at Barataria and they're huge fans of you. I always hear you cats are always on no matter where I am walking around doing whatever I'm doing in the QC role.

8:35My dudes have you know, the Nephilim desk. Why playing so I was going on here to for is trying to trick a couple of browns into manual. Yeah, he's like these guys are probably. We know they're all white all these white. And listen to you browns. They're all into it. What a world. My mind. How the tables have turned. Cashman calls it inverted world. That's very much it. So we were having a discussion before the show started just kind of spitballing what we were going to talk about. And you landed on something that was really fascinating something that we haven't discussed much outside of my passing mentions of some of the cool stuff that I see on the internet, but never really got into it. And that is this idea of melology that is evidence of buildings structures that oftentimes are mistaken or you know, at least the general consensus is these are naturally formed stone structures in some of these cases. But when you really scrutinize them, they look like they were once you know structures with right angles and those in archways that seem to have been melted, which is really bizarre.

9:42And so when you mentioned that as one of the topics I got really excited. Where do you want to begin? Let's start with how did you get into this topic? It was kind of cool in my early 20s when I was training in yoga. One of my good friends, Naster, he was from Petra Jordan. And if you've ever seen some of the architecture in Petra Jordan in the middle of east, they have these like whole buildings that you you know history would tell you normal history to say, oh, this was just etched. It was just essentially carved out of the mountain. Yeah, I could bring it up here because it is. I've seen these structures before I wasn't aware of like the specific locations or names of them, but it's so insane. Here I just brought one up I believe right here. You bring that on stage. So here's a good example of it. Yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah, it's so like, you know, my friend Naster, he was telling me, you know, back in the day and I didn't believe him.

10:45That's the funny thing. Like a lot of times I hear this stuff and I'm like, wow, whatever. He's like the local lore was like, you know, that the whole area was those types of buildings and then some sort of cataclysmic thing happened. And I didn't really pay any mind to it. And I spent some time traveling out to the southwest of the United States and going to like, you know, Sedona and like, Grand Canyon. You know, the four corners in New Mexico and Arizona and all that. And in that whole area, it was like, whoa, there's like some these arches that are here. These massive like, you know, stone arches are nuts. Like how could wind and rain and erosion actually do that? And none of it really clicked for me until I started to study how to make geopolymers. And so geopolymers are essentially man-made stone. It's like we make concrete now and concrete is essentially you take a binder like Portland cement and that takes all your aggregate.

11:48And it kind of fuses the aggregate in a medium that's very hard. Well, a geopolymer takes all that aggregate, but then it fused it binds everything together where it actually becomes homogenous. So it becomes one substance. So like this is this is a man made. This is a geopolymer. So it looks like stone. This is something I've made. But this isn't stone. Like if anybody was to pick this up, they'd be like, oh, that's stone. Naturally forming right. It's naturally foreign, but it's not. It's a geopolymer. So I went to the geopolymer institute in San Michelle France. And my mentor in that, Dr. David Vitz, he was pretty infatic that most of the old world was built out of, you know, people use different terms for it. They don't geopolymers now in fashion and vogue. But when he was just like, you know, cutting his teeth, showing people the science in the late 70s, like in fact he got kicked out of Egypt because he totally indicated the whole, you know, slaves were carrying limestone in the desert.

12:55That whole theoretical supposition, he, he like totally smashed it. So they have never let him back into Egypt because they really like that, that, that storyline there. And by the theory that you subscribed to, like that they just cast those they pour, they pour castes. Okay, that makes more sense. It's pretty, it's because with a geopolymer, you don't have to cast wet. That's the thing. So anybody that's done construction knows your water weight and things is what makes something heavy. Like you were just looking at that building with those huge logs. Well, it would take like eight or nine of us to carry one of those logs out of the forest when it was freshly cut. It drives for two months. And only three of us were there because the water weight goes away. Well, what you're doing concrete work and you have a big old truck come in that truck can only carry, you know, nine yards of concrete nine to ten yards of concrete because it's wet. You know, and it has to do this thing.

13:55Well, what what David of it showed is like when they did the limestone with the casing stones and the, and the regular mass of the great pyramid, they essentially took crustaceans that were out of the Nile River that gave them their bio available calcium. They took calcium bentonite clay, which that area of Africa has tons of deposits of calcium bentonite clay. They also have some of the greatest deposits of this other substance called natron. They would take the forest that the Sahara Desert now used to be a forest. It used to be like a tropical lush forest. So they took that forest. They were chopping it down and burning the wood to give them fly ash. And then they would mix that with the silica, the sand, and they would mix it all dry. Wow. And then the way they would do it was they would like essentially build a build a box like once you have your first one cast,

14:55then you just need, you know, you just need three sides. They would just do three sides and they would pour all the materials on the top. And then as long as they had heat from the sun, they would just pour a trickle of water on top of it, let that filter down in the heat, the combination of the heat, you know, the thermal mass from the heat of the sun, cooking it in that the actual chemical reaction would cause that all the mixture of natron, fly ash, calcium, bentonite clay, silica, it caused all that to actually solidify into limestone. And then that's how like each stone, that's why there's no gap between the first stone and the next stone. Wow. And he literally, they say he just did it in a spiral configuration, the entire way up. And he actually predicted because at the time that he was in the in Egypt, he predicted that there would be a spiral,

16:01not opening like a hallway inside the pyramid that nobody knows about. And I think that was just proven out a few years ago where they found an entryway near the top where they always talk about the capstone being. Right. If you went down like, you know, 20 or 30 feet, there was actually a way where it actually comes up. So that would show the pathway in which they were actually laying the stones. You know what this sounds like? It sounds like this is the way that coral castle in Florida would have been made. So it could have been, you know, I've talked with old world Florida a bunch about it. I've only gone there once, you know, there's a lot of lore around it. Yeah, the lore is weird. It's like the guy apparently like when they were dropping off the equipment to do this, he let him go on lunch break. And then when they came back, he was already done with everything. Like I don't know what's sensationalized, what's not. It's just one old man who was like apparently heartbroken.

17:02That's a huge thing too, where there's like this lore about his relationship and everything. And why he even set out to do this in the first place, but it strikes me as likely that coral, if it is a component, I don't really know because it's called coral castle. So I imagine coral plays some component in it. Would have a similar composition to seashells. And so you could have a base that is very similar to whatever is provided when you grind up seashells. Yeah, there's actually some pictures of it. And as I'm looking at it there, I go, yeah, you could just make casts for all of these gigantic rectangles, this moon shape. It's really not that complicated to do that. And I don't know, I just wonder because it is, it's like this great big mystery. How did he do it? You can see the big stones. It seems like this would have been a viable way to pull that off. Certainly if he didn't, you could do it that way. Oh man, this is a, we started this conversation before the show talking about the Noah's Ark. The Noah's Ark excavation or the LiDAR that they're doing over there by Mount Ararat. Yeah, or the mountains of Ararat.

18:03Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and David mentioned that they were, they discovered seashells and to others like, yeah, yeah. That's how they bind things together using the calcium from the shells and go boy. It's interesting because there was a village not far from this. It's not there anymore, but people say it's the village that Noah would have first come across, you know, like or first built when he came down the mountain. And settled. And it's interesting because like, yeah, let's say this is where he cursed Hamat. Oh, I'm not sure I don't know enough to say that, but I just, I imagine what if he used that technique to build the walls of the village. You know what I mean? There's something like that, but oh, by the way, I am seeing a spiral corridor all throughout the great pyramids. I've got that here as well. So just a little veracity of what you're talking about. Oh, you're muted, oh, you got all muted on this. For many years, can you hear me now?

19:04Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was derided for many years for saying that and it's been proven out now that they are doing all the lidar on these structures. You can actually see like, you know, the pathway in which they would have to actually lay the, lay the form. And when you go down to like Peru and South America and you actually see how those pyramids are made, you actually can see where they actually leaned wood against the form board. Because they were tried for years and years and years, they were trying to figure out why on the upper left of each one of these blocks, no matter what the shape of the block was. They were like, why is there this indentation and they were trying to think, oh, it must mean this. It must mean that and some builder was just like, huh, that looks exactly like what we do, like what we're laying form boards for our concrete boards. Dude, you know what's so funny about that? Like the intellectuals, paleontologists, archaeologists, all the people who were just for sociological reasons to worship their gods.

20:07They were holding a message. Just hold the wood dog. Yeah, dude, like in East Mexico, just a guy that works with his hands to be like, no, didn't shit. Yeah. And what's cool is I think in the past, like the past civilizations had much, much better knowledge of how to create any type of stone. Like we, like geology to a large extent says like this, all the stone that we experience now is man made. But like even down in South America, I think Max Egan, he showed a bunch of these different, I believe it was an Ecuador and Peru, even all the way down in the Andes. Like down, I forget the, the, the, that really skinny. Yeah, I think it is Peru. There's this bird there that actually acts like a woodpecker, but it does it with stone. And what the bird does is it has this saliva that will actually melt stone. Oh, wow. Yeah, and it's very well known, all throughout South America that this bird's saliva will actually like, you know, it will penetrate stone, it will break stone.

21:14It sometimes will even like create a hollow point in the stone. And they nest in these cliffs that, that they make themselves and they're not doing it like with, you know, raw, you know, compaction power with their beaks or anything. They're actually doing it with the saliva. So there's a bunch of people that think a lot of naturalists down in South America that think that like overall the indigenous people of those areas figured out, you know, concoctions of like how to actually melt rock, how to do these things where they could actually, you know, form it up again. You know, if you, if you look at like a concrete as it is, you know, once with our current technology, once it solidifies, once that chemical reaction happens, it's not, it's not going to do anything, but crumble, it's not going to melt. But stone or like a geopolymer, it's homogenous. So once you have a homogenous material, then maybe there's something out there that could actually create it to go liquid.

22:18And then you could pour it into a cast because to this day, nobody can really replicate how well, like the statues of like, you know, a few thousand years ago were were made. Like these statues that have absolutely no marring from cutting tools, they have no pa, no polishing on them, some of these columns in Italy of this like crazy marble. Like they literally like people are saying, oh yeah, they said it that with like 2000, you know, sandpaper and, you know, it's, it's class smooth. And like I'm, I'm nowhere near like a high, high end builder, you know, I build like off-grid stuff, you know, so I'll never say that I know all the techniques, but with the given history that we're told, it's very hard for me to think that like, there's that they would have like given that the given the storyline of our history, like to me, it would be near impossible to do the things that they that they did.

23:21By, oh, we went ahead and we went to the local marble, you know, mine and mine that and we carried this 30 foot column that weighs 18 tons. Horse horse and buggy and then out of nowhere, we polished it to perfection, your glass finished and set it perfectly and it's and it stood for a thousand years, no problem. Like come on guys. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I was actually watching my favorite show, antique roach, I'll check this out. I love this show. This dude Andrew Clemens is his name. Oh, I love this. This is sand art. Yeah, they used to make like obviously not as intricate versions at like car news and stuff for you and I used to have a couple of these as a kid. That's beautiful. Yeah, I mean, he has other ones that are like, he did a full bust of George Washington that is incredible to the detail. And these are not large bottles. He was selling them for like $4 in the 1850s and now they're worth this one sold for I think like almost $100,000.

24:26Afterward and the collectors and the person that was helping them sell this were like, I don't think that anyone can do this now. It's either a lost art form or like there's just no one around that can do this and it's just sand. It's just some autistic guy that was sitting by a window and yeah, poking colored sand one at a time. And what's funny is if you didn't know that that was a technique like let's say we lost a technology. That's lost. You would say all kinds of goofy shit made that like as to for is explaining this process. It seems like such a viable means of creating these you know, megalithic mystery structures that I can't help but entertain the idea that if you took somebody from back then and you exposed them to some of the ideas that people are speculating now as to how they were made. They were like, what are you fucking retarded? You know, like we're like, what if giants move them? What if what if they use frequency technology to vibrate the megalithic structures and drop them in place?

25:29What if there was just one autistic guy that was sitting there and did this? Yo, right? That sand? That's sand. It's crap. I think what we've lost the most as a society is the time preference of sitting there and doing a thing. Everybody's got high time preference now. Maybe, I don't know, but we're not doing shit like this anymore. Huh. Chris is muted again. Yeah, he's muted. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, it keeps telling me that there's something with a mic. So yeah, I love what you're saying about time because high art comes only when you have time to do it. And like once again, the historical narrative that we're told is like, oh, everybody was destitute. You know, it's like that scene from the Monty Python's Holy Grail. Like people are throwing dirt at each other. Yeah, but you don't get cathedrals at the same time people are living in squalor like that. That does not happen.

26:29Right. It's a consciousness thing. What do you make of like when you see this comparison? This is what we've been doing lately, David. We've been focusing on productivity, but realistically, not just productivity, but the idea of lightening our load, having other people do stuff for us. So that way we can actually be creative. Like we can forget what the process is. We're in the process. Hold on, I'll pull this up in a second. Okay, okay. We are in the process of it right now. We were building out the infrastructure for the productivity that will then go for us because we do a lot of things. We're creating a lot of things. But I'm like, wow, imagine if we could just focus on doing this. Like this is, yeah, if this is a business and literally this what we're doing right now is the business. Right. Talking to Tofer. So before you got on, we're like pressing buttons and moving files. And it's like, if I didn't have to do that, how much better would my artwork be? Right. And this is our art, right? Yeah.

27:29And we're operating realistically probably at 28%. Yeah, I would love to creating. If that means something. So the whole thing is better. Like the whole thing that people are seeing and listening to and absorbing is better. But yeah, to your point, there's a lot of. So these people had that in a way. They had these other needs taken care of where they're allowed to pour a thousand percent in just. So we need slaves slavery. I'll help you out. I'll help you out. You need slavery to have considerable art. Yeah. And then you get rid of slavery and you get hip hop. Oh, yeah. Everything is good. Yeah. Yeah. It's not good. Bring that image up real quick because I wanted to show. So this. So we can have we can have hip hop or we can have shit like this. We can do this 100%. Neflin Desk. But I can be. You can listen to 50 cent. You choose. I love 50 cents. So check this out, right? And then look at this. And I'm sure you might have an idea where I'm already going. But this is laser engraved art. Right. So you have what appears to be fucking Shiva, the destroyer or some shit engraved into a stone fiber laser marking machine.

28:34Deep engraving on a stone. And I'm an idiot. But the similarities aren't lost on me. And you know, that's that gives rise to all kinds of fantastic ideas. Like did they have access to technologies that we couldn't fathom or understand? And what you've just described really shits on that. I mean, not to say that that's not a considerable technology in an art form that is. I mean, look, the megalithic structures are still around. And we forgot how to do this with stone or it's not widely implemented within the construction world. And so we're suffering for it because these things are still here after all these years. But it definitely removes some of that allure of just the more wild concepts that are out there. Oh, I don't think so. Go ahead. I don't think so because you have to get into the why. Why would they build these things? You know, the stories that were told is slaves cut, did mining. Right. Then they moved these big blocks and they placed them and it was like, heave-ho, heave-ho.

29:35Well, they know like just giving the great pyramid of Giza as the main example with this. The whole story of it being a slave society that did that has been completely upended like four or five times because they found the cities that are on that plateau that are underground were artisan. Very, very high-minded. So like the workforce, like I see it the whole other way, like I look at like what was the technology? Why is it on every continent? Do you have pyramids? We had pyramids in Costa Rica. We have pyramids in the United States. You know, there's hill, you know, hills in Ohio and hills in Mexico and all these places and the hills look, you know, they are the un-earth of the way. Oh my God, who could have known it was a pyramid, you know? Right. These pyramids were everywhere and I pretty much think that that technology of the mass that they used.

30:39The mass had everything to do with setting a- you can look at mass as a battery. This is what I teach people all the time. Especially because I teach like, you know, earth and mass building, rocket mass heating systems, all the type of stuff. When you think of mass, right? Like you guys are, you know, athletic, you're in sports and stuff like that. Let me just say it so quick. Real quick, I just think it's so fucking cool that at Bertaire, you are teaching people this stuff. It's kind of insane. It is so cool. Like all the like, you've got I think what, a hundred acres over there. And it's like everything on it, you're just building with the stuff that's there. Oh yeah, I find myself at my house. I'm like, I got to go to Home Depot for this. I got to go. It's like, it's bullshit. I live on 10 acres and I still can't functionally make things happen with what I have there. But like, what you're doing is, please continue. I'm sorry. It's just so cool. It is a weird place. Well, I mean, that's something like, literally I've endeavored to do because I was like, you know, they say necessity is the mother of all invention.

31:43Yeah. Like 20 years ago, I thought myself very land rich, but cash poor. And I was like, what's the cheapest way to build? What do I have on my land? Well, I got dirt. I have earth. You know, so I was like, I took an earth bag building course because I was like, you know, I have time and I have energy. I don't have money. So what's that? That's so sick. I love that mentality. I have that mentality. But like, as you get more, I don't know, there's like a give and take to your time as well. So now I've like, I don't know. I start to like give a little bit of that creativity up to. Well, we're going back to you like what you're just saying, like how like, you know, we're talking about time. You know, if you have more time to do what you're what you're strong at doing, you know, this will lead to more creative expression, higher quality expression, all that. The thing that I had when I moved down to Central America was I had time and I had effort. Right.

32:43Right. And I had a necessity for I needed something. And I've just noticed in my life, if I, if I, you know, go balls to the wall with anything, that acts like an inductive current. And it draws people in that want to help that want to learn that want to do whatever. So I tell like a lot of young men, especially like the young men there are like listening to your show and stuff like that that are my crew. I'm like, just start. Like if you're, if you're, if you're excited about something, allow your excitement to be like that lightning rod that drops all the energy into the system and just go and you'll be surprised. People want to be inspired. People want things to do. Like young men want things to do. So like just go, just start. You know, like when we first moved on to this farm, I just put out on Facebook to the, to the local community. I was like, hey, I need to build an earth bag wall on my, because of my houses at the lowest part of the property.

33:46And we keep having these flood events in my basement because all the water rushes down the hill. So I essentially need to build an above ground dam to divert the water. I had 16 dude show up. What? That's cool. That we couldn't get an intern on this show for the body. But we never posted it on on Facebook, though. We're also not doing cool shit like that. That's true too. You're like coming here, watch us. They slurs. Well, it's kind of cool. Like the bear tarnishing like I do have a little experience under my belt now. So like when I say I'm going to teach something, I have examples of things I've done throughout the years that gets people fired up. But the main thing that I'm showing is like, like how do you use what is here? Yeah. Like you don't want to import your stuff from China. You don't want to import your stuff from like the straight of her moves in the middle of east. Like that's a that even if everything was going hunky Dory and everybody was happy and everybody was getting along a geopolitically, that's still a bad move when you think about it from an energy perspective.

34:55Sure. Like when you when you're actually gauging, you know, how sustainable a building is. And I'm not going by like you and agenda 21 sustainable like sustainable means durable in my mind. How durable are you going to make something? The durability has to come from not only good practices in your building practice, but it has to come from local materials. You're not going to get drywall from China. That's going to be durable. Because just the energy, just the displacement of getting that from all the way over there and bringing it over here, it's exposed to all these varying temperatures, ocean going all this stuff. So by the time it gets to you, you think, oh, it's an inert thing. Well, it isn't an inert thing, but it's been exposed to so much temperature variation and so much humidity variation, so much pressure variation, all these things. That it's not actually indigenous to your particular space. Right.

35:57Like in Florida, you guys have a terrible problem with like all the crap drywall and all the bad building materials. So it's because Florida in and of itself is humid and hot and you know, you have all this temperature very huge mold problem out here. Like especially when I was living closer to the coast, the west coast, it was like mold, you couldn't find a house without a disaster as mold problem. Unless they are built out of concrete. Right. But even still, I mean, you know, the wood inside of it or the drywall, you know, because they're typically not doing exposed concrete walls, they'll be drywall over it. And it's like just the humidity, you know, the air itself in my house. I have like four large air purifiers that are just constantly running. And we might actually get one that's internal to the air conditioning system just to keep things because there's nothing you can do. It's super humid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of cool. Like where I grew up down in Fort Laardale, just out the Fort Laardale near Miami, all the houses that were built in the, in the,

37:05in the early 19 or early 20th century, like in from 1900 to 1940, they all had the same design. None of them had AC. They were all built four feet off the ground. They were built with all all this, the floor joist was done with this, this indigenous pine called Dade City Pine, which no longer exists. So that the, what would occur is air could flow under your building. So you, it would keep the building somewhat cool. All the houses had the concrete roof and it had a cupola in the center of the house to allow the flow that was coming underneath to cycle the hot air and allow the hot air to expel. And you always had pass through window systems. So you could open the front in the back of the house and it would allow the air to move through your house. And that's, you know, yeah. And none of those, none of those houses, as long as like the roof didn't, you know, crap out on them for whatever reason.

38:07If the roof had maintained itself, none of those houses had mold problems, because they used very simple neotropical building principles. They all had overhangs. They all had ease, you know, so the heat didn't really hit the, the, the didn't like bake the, the side of the building water would shed off and not run down your walls. Right. Now I go down to my mom's neighborhood in Fort Laard, you know, they're all building these cube houses now. Yes. Yes. Yeah. It's like one size fits all solution where the industry just shifted to like what's the cheapest and fastest way to get something up. And then they implemented that at scale, regardless of the region in America. And it's like, you know, when you go to a different country or a different area, you, you typically would detect different architecture. And it's not just aesthetic. I mean, what you're talking about here talks to function, right? Like architecture of an area probably was specific to the climate of that area and the things that they were facing on a regular basis.

39:07So when you take a country as diverse as America from the west coast to the east coast, there's so many different climates and you implement that scale. You get tell us is the same as Minnesota and that are in Florida. Exactly. It's like you're going to run into some real issues. And it does it like there's, it's a crisis. I see people going in, especially with like the quality of lumber that can take a pocket knife and just push it almost effortlessly into a two by four of a new development. Oh, yeah. In my, uh, in my old house in Brooklyn, it was made in like 1920s. It was actually interesting. Um, before we brought it, the previous owner took this bar out from the bottom because they had like a bar in the basement. That was a speakeasy. That's how old this was during prohibition. But, uh, I had removed the wall illegally. Uh, the sun room. I like made it like a nice sun room and we did like, you know, the queen joys and what it was sitting up at the some of the wood that I removed that was, uh, like holding it up in the middle. I looked at the rings on it. Oh, yeah. Old by fours, but it's actually two inches and it's actually by four inches. And yes, dark wood.

40:12Like a golden almost and the rings on it were probably four to five times the amount of rings that you'll see at like a home depot. Yeah, sort of fine. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, it's funny. I thought something was wrong with this. You know, the idea of like shrink flation and it affects like your snacks or whatever. And the amount that you get in a package is like, it's happening to wood, right? You said like the two by four thing that actually used to be two by four. Yeah, they're not whatever they're shaving off. Probably what is a quarter of an inch on each side or something or they're grounded and they're all right. That's a half inch. Half inch. My God. That's why. Yeah, a two by four in the States is a one and a half by three and a half. That's insane. That's insane. Yeah. And it's in his crap wood. Like in Costa Rica, like we couldn't build with pine and we couldn't build with plywood because the termites would eat it. The termites would literally come in and just eat all that. Like that to them was just like mainlining sugar. Like they're like, yes, thank you for that. So we would always mill all of our own wood. So we would essentially down there, there was like a lot of mahogany.

41:18And I remember as a kid, my dad talking about mahogany, like it was like this mythical wood. And like down there, it was pretty prevalent. So like I built all my buildings like when I would do the reciprocal roof and stuff. I found down there the big thing that happened where you had all these speculators that right around, you know, 2000 came in and bought all these huge tracks of the land to plant teak. And they're like, we're Costa Rica is going to be the next teak capital of the world. But the problem is the soil there isn't good for teak. So all the teak, you know, your biggest teak was maybe eight inches in diameter. It wasn't that big. And so they would clear, you know, two thirds of these teak forests where you would have like four and five and six inch diameter trees. And they would they would see that as trash wood to make room for the other teak to grow and get bigger. So I was like, teak is a wonderful wood. I know like tons of finished carpenters that use this for fine furniture.

42:21I'm going to use all those small pieces of wood that they can't make furniture out of. I'm going to use them as whole rounds. And so that's what I started building all my reciprocal roofs out of. So I just found like where the shortage like in the in the industry was. Or I should say the overage in the industry. I took that trash and made it my treasure. Which meant that they were probably giving it to you for like exponentially less. Like you find this in other words. Yeah, because I buy probably I buy no less than a hundred trees at a time. And so I could get like, you know, each tree for, you know, delivered for like $50 a tree. Oh wow. And so imagine and like when I say tree, I mean, some of these were like 50 foot long. Wow. So so I would in there straight. And so I could build all this really fun stuff that was like pretty wild. You couldn't go to any lumber yard. Well, here where I live in Missouri, you could find, you know, some very long saplings.

43:27You know that are are decently straight, but they're saplings. They're not like a mature wood. So just like what we did at Berataria is like the 16 main main rafters that you saw. They are all about eight inches diameter by the time they hit the outside. You're talking about the ones that were on the roof that are going in a spiral formation. Okay. Yeah. And the reciprocal roof. And that I mean, they're never going to go anywhere like that. That is like a totally different type of wood because most of those are oak then like buying the pine at Home Depot. Right. Right. What do you see what you have? Yeah. I'm sure on this one. I don't know. Have you ever worked with Iki wood? It's a it's not Iki. It's a picture of a peanut. Oh, okay. Yeah. This is a it's like an African hardwood actually. It's one of the hardest, but what is this? Is this because I used to work at a carbon new shop and we would cut some sort of African wood that would smell like a it smelled really unique. I don't know if it was pop or something like that. Look at that. I made I made my kitchen table out of this when I used to work in the MTA yet.

44:28Yeah, they use this for like a ties. So when you're building on the structure there. These this is like this wood is like indestructible. This stuff does not break very hard. This is the stuff that we see like if I was walking the train tracks as a kid those those ties. They they just started using this within the last 20 years. Okay. As they roll it out. Yeah, you'll you'll see this above you in New York. So just so you know every time you show a video it mutes like I can't hear you and I can't and it mutes me like I can't I can't actually say. Stop sharing. Yes. I don't know what that is. Well, always fun. I hear this. What is the if you would? I'm sorry. Go ahead. So yeah, the if you would is it's wood that we used to use in transit. I work for the MTA we build track. So it's like very strong and I would we we had like a sawmill there. So they adapted. I had like a one inch pieces and I I smuggled them out one by one. I built my kitchen table with this shit.

45:28Nice. Yeah, I didn't bring it with me. I should have but it was yeah, it's great. I love working with these kind of like rare woods. Very these this one specifically hard to work with because it's super hard. It's one of the hardest. But yeah, I was I was asking if you if you've ever worked with this, but this this would be kind of probably be out of your area. I don't think you can hear us. No, I can. Okay. I had I've never worked with Ike would I worked with some of the harder woods down in the tropics. You know, most of ours were down there. They call oak roboe. It's like different than like the live oak that you guys have in Florida. It's more of like a straight oak tree that like we have here. We have white oak. We have red oak. We have a lot of walnut and also hickory here that are really remarkable. All of that wood is very prevalent here. We have black walnut, which is an incredible wood to work with here.

46:32My preference set because I'm not a carpenter in any way shape or form. I look at carpenter's and I'm like you guys are doing awesome. I'm a masonry guy that uses whole whole logs for for lentils and rafters. Right. Right. I hire all the carpenter's. I don't I don't have the patience for for carpenter. I like seeing it, but for me like I'm more of like a a bone sky and usually for me the the bones that most of my structures are masonry. So I'm going to risk bringing up an image and I'm only going to show it to the audience for reference and I'll I'll preface it so you know what we're going to be saying. What is this phenomenon we were talking about it before the show. It's kind of within this meltyology thing that we hope to get into and it's this red brick phenomenon and you talked a little bit about red brick and some of its like energy retention or something that we'll get into that. But I'm going to show this image and I want the audience and for you to see this. This is what I'm really talking about when I say like there is it's kind of like this mysterious phenomenon.

47:40I have what I'm going to pull up here is a cliff side. Like it's a cliff side that's got red brick embedded it doesn't even make sense and I see this sort of thing all over Twitter. So you're going to lose my audio for a second, but I just want to bring it up and show it. So go ahead top and bring that up. And for the audience who's watching you can see off to the left side if I actually zoom in here we've got a cliff as it meets the ocean and then there's just red brick embedded and exposed as if the water over time. War it down and expose the red brick that's built inside the clip side very, very bizarre. Let's bring that down and make sure to open here is okay. So you saw what I was showing right. Yeah, I did. That's awesome. The kind of thing all the time man like I'll just be scrolling through Twitter. What the hell is that? I mean it's insane. I don't know where to place that at all. Have you seen this sort of thing? I have. I have. I saw it out in California. I forget. I've only been out to like Southern California once.

48:45Is that a. Like we're so LA is that San Francisco or no because I do have a. I was down in LA. Yeah, like like there's it's a highway whatever that high PCH I think it is. Like you can see like when you look up there's like this like it looks like the whole thing in the Bible with like the fervent heat. You know they say God reans down at fervent heat. Because you see like this it looks like rock but when you really look at it looks more like a con like an old concrete flurry. And then you see all these bricks behind it like laid up behind it and the way it situated is like the way the cliff is going it's not like you know it's not like a linear surface like you would think you know when people lay brick they usually lay it. Yeah more in a more linear fashion. And so it but it's immense like you're looking up like you know 20 30 feet and seeing like just there's there's this like rock and then fascia and then there's brick like it's very evident.

49:50Okay, wait so I'm going to do it again to you but you're going to see the video you're going to understand what I'm what I'm getting at here. This is actually from the improbable dreamer will put up in a second somebody that we have to have on the show we kind of lost contact with them but he's showing off what if you just look at you know from street view it looks like a cliff side very non linear like you're describing in San Francisco. This looks like a mess of rocks nothing specific but whoever is in the video I don't know if it's the improbable dreamer it catches his eye that this is actually bricks and he proves it in the video I'll go ahead and screw up through it briefly so you can see where he picks it up the brick has a stamp on it so here we go right he's kind of showing this off it does not at all look like a cliff I mean a building of any sort but if you keep going he's got a brick that stamped. It's definitively a brick and this is what we're talking about like what even is this he pulled it out.

50:50He pulled it out of the wall what is going on here like this looks if this was ever a building you've got trees growing out of the side melted a melted building looks like a melted building let's bring this down so to freaking hear us. So you know what you saw there was what what looks like just a cliff side but he actually pulls a brick out of the face and shows you it's got a stamp on it so but like I wouldn't I mean as you're scrubbing through that video it just looks like a shitty messy cliff side like you would drive down a highway and never think twice about that right right no there's there's so much around us man that was built up before like I when I was when I was first coming up reading the Bible and I read that line where you know God will rain down with fervent heat I'm yeah I'm paraphrasing but the word fervent always stuck stuck out to me because it's like that's a very like specific type of word that he used what the hell does

51:56fervent even really mean. Oh I see top lobster he's going to look it up yeah yeah yeah we can find like the blue letter Bible translation for it in the Greek in the Hebrew kind of always a smart thing to do when you come across fascinating words like that in scripture yeah but it just sound like regular heat that's for sure no it doesn't sound like regular heat and so there's nothing new under the sun you know we know that and so my feeling is is that there were kingdoms here that were absolutely scorched on the day of judgment like there is like massive pressure it's a piece of shit little season are you son of a bitch to offer you. Well look I mean to that point I've seen these like staircases that look like they're halfway into being a water slide like something hit them that was so hot that they melted and the flow went down the stairs yes stone staircases that are outdoors I mean what's even what's doing that yeah that's my question and there's so much evidence once again it was like one of these things

53:00where it's everywhere it's on every continent like you can't run from it it's just like that layer I think we talked about once like there's this layer of terra preta yeah they find the carbon the char but specifically it's biochar because it's very diamagnetic which means that there had to be very low oxygen when it was made it's not just like regular carbon like biochar or like a like a charcoal charcoal can be made just in a regular fire but when that when you get rid of oxygen and you still have the high heat one might say a fervent heat that fervent heat created like this line you know the stratigraphers like you guys were friend friendly with JT follows JC right yeah yeah he was over at these studio not long ago yeah yeah so like he talks about the the stratigrapher Gunner Heinzinn and you I looked at he switched me on the Gunner Heinzinn and I looked into his work and his presentations

54:00he shows this black earth like this this total line of terra preta biochar on every continent at the same time that's fascinating yeah so like yeah it's a flashy it could be plasmatic because a lot of times when they're when they when you have a plasma tube like when they whenever they make those like little plasma thingies they make them under semi vacuum which means they pull the oxygen out well they'll pull the atmosphere out which includes you know about 15% oxygen they pull that out and that allows the plasma to do its thing even better so maybe it was like one of these like crazy plasma storms you know we would imagine because you we talk often on this I this show about the idea of like the environment right so like imagine some scenario where if that's really the model all the oxygen gets pulled out of the firmament and then plasma wreaks havoc for a giant you know planning scale flash right melting melting things and then

55:08with the natural things turning into that carbon that's it some people go down the the dragon hole that sounds gross but you know what I'm saying when it comes to you a lot of it is like sort of castle you know this is a lot of the imagery that I've seen is sort of castles that look to be melted and that of course your imagination we're talking about it earlier about well how you begin to speculate how these megalithic structures your imagination goes to a place and you can't help but wonder dragons are in the Bible dragons are in all the iconography in the art where the world was there something there could a fire breathing creature have done that I mean it could have I think to me is the uniformity in the size sure yeah so there there could be both there could have been dragons and and and God says boom like it could be both that's interesting man we were doing the book of Genesis with Thomas

56:08yesterday and kind of got to the idea about Adam being in the garden and the idea of like well was there stuff going on before he's expelled you know he gets expelled and there's already seen it seems like there are things going on outside of the garden because he's he's he's commanded to do specific things within the I don't mean is there any room in your theory for like that cataclysm happening before this iteration of mankind because it starts to get wonky when we're talking about like Jesus returning after and then 70 AD stuff like I don't know if there's evidence for like for all of that to have happened then but possibly before like how could we can you date the that layer of of of carbon well in our current dating system Gunnar Heinz said it was right around 2000 years ago interesting yeah yeah so that that's very interesting to me so that's I'm also I don't believe our calendar as

57:17it is like I don't follow the Gregorian calendar to me I think it's a bunch of I've written about it like I'm there's there's a lot of things with the calendrix that I think are super wonky I'd read a Femenko quite a while ago and my my econ finance mind really appreciated his statistical analysis of all these stories in history and he was able to show like there it's statistically impossible for the way history is it was presented for for these stories to correlate like they do and then he also showed if history was as long as they say it is we would have a lot more people like we just don't we don't have enough people here and now it's quite evident like you know a lot of these countries have been lying about how many people they have they use it like a pissing contest for you know free I am F money

58:17so oh yeah like you know try to like oh yeah we're missing 600 million people and you have the people be like oh it was it was COVID that did it and we know COVID didn't do that oh yeah and they were like rooms going around that they might have just like off them because they got they got exposed with their wrong math no it's literally like I remember dude they've been doing this forever when I was a little kid in civics when I was 11 years old that's 39 years ago they were they had the one child policy well it takes 2.2 kids per family to have your population grow yeah that's the replacement right so how could they say over the last 40 years their population grew into the billion over a billion it's an impossibility if you just have a little bit of math you're like no that's a great point yes I mean those are things that we know they're like significant statistics here in the West like we know that China was restricted to just one child for a while but

59:22we also that China's population is somehow out of control how do those 2 things square that makes no sense it's a it's a gift I watched them do it in Costa Rica it's such a gift so I bought my property down there in 05 I completed the purchase in 06 at the time of me buying when I was looking at property down there there's like 3.2 million people in Costa Rica cool 2010 comes around they're doing the census yeah and at the time I'm a house sitting for a friend of mine that was right in the middle of this little town and I watched the census people walk up cool and they're like you know but they're doing it in the middle of the day well everybody works so nobody's home right so 2011 the census data comes out they're like oh yeah Costa Rica is 7 million people so you're going to tell me in 10 years their population doubled no it didn't double they get money for social security numbers we know how many social security numbers are fraud fraudulent it's a way to like build a market it's a way to build your

1:00:32your your your credit rating with the international monetary fund wow so they just lie about how many people are there India those people are starving to death I lived in India I lived in southern India and yeah there's a lot of people there but there's no way that they were reproducing at the rate that they said oh we have 1.6 billion people give me a break no you don't have 1.6 billion now all the math is coming out and all the math is like even if you're going to take the 20 20 biggest cities in India where most of the people you know congregate if you're going to add all those populations up you're like something like a bill 1.2 billion people off from the population of us you're saying 1.2 billion people live outside of those 20 biggest you know populous centers in India

1:01:33it's a lot makes me feel so much better this is what Charlie not that many of Charlie Robinson's new book is detailing that in he has that in detail it's something like they've counted up every village that has 10,000 or more people and he's like it's mathematically impossible for them to come to that whatever one point however many billion they say he said it's below 800 million like and probably probably lower than that I know I know this about Eastern cultures the second they think they can make money they're lying that's crazy I know this for like my stepmothers from Thailand I love Thai people I love Thai food she will tell you one to one never buy an art an artifact never buy a trinket they they lie about all of it oh you got this gold coin from the king of siam no that's the no they just minted that like last year that's they will they make this whole industry out there they figure out

1:02:33oh we can make money with this well that's why the whole scam call industry is what it's out there look at this really quickly it might mute your mic but I found this interesting on Twitter today they found the new spider now fuck that that it's a lady boy spider in Thailand is a guy no no I don't know if this is legit I see like they give you that because all the lady spiders got exported to America to work in the nursing industry in Thailand lady voice spiders they're making the spiders they're making the fighters game that's crazy oh my god fuck man that's a wreck transoractness that's nuts man 100% now spider man oh the new spider man coming out with a tris spider man bid on with Owen Frogro oh with the with the story yeah spider man that's the only actually actually someone bumped this to Owen because he might be oh there's a correlation there yeah I'm sure he'll he'll pull something out of it that that's hilarious

1:03:34oh man yeah I mean it's not a coincidence to me that all of the scam calls come it's typically like what Indonesia or you know like that's really the big one is Indonesia that's huge and those are the ones that are calling all day and I guess it's just like when you live in you would say it's a culture thing or a race thing it's like a poverty thing right where like your country no I've been it's not it's a cultural thing it's literally the I was specific when I said eastern because most of the eastern countries believe in karma and so what they do with that karma is it absolutely debilitates your societal trust because if a person is in a lower cast at all they all say it's because of karma and there's nothing you can do about it this is your karma so it fixes you there's never ever a point where you ever have to take responsibility so so there's inherently

1:04:38they're they are the least trustworthy people like literally in their culture they have a bobbing head doll in India where they're like yes no yes no yes no they literally will say yes no because they're gauging in every second whether or not what they can scam you what what the best move is do that wild I found it absolutely appalling when I was when I was living there because I was like this is supposed to be like the spiritual mecca the world like what well that's so I when I worked in furniture sales and I would deal with Indian people they were incredibly untrustworthy and it was very frustrating the way in which they were untrustworthy was they would haggle very aggressively which isn't itself a trespassing by any means but they would say if you can do this then I will make this purchase and then there was never any honor in their word so every single time they said okay cool you got me there and you're like

1:05:39all right so are we gonna close this deal and they would go well what about this and you go you just said in front of your wife because they would come with their whole family their wife and kids everything that if you can do this then we're gonna do it it's all good I would go I would pull the strings boss would go I don't know man that's super low and I would go you know we could just get him out of the door and get this over with so I can get back to trying to sell some furniture and every single time I mean there was times where you'd be there for hours until the manager would step in and go stop working with these people you get out of my store you've wasted hours of my employees time so there's like there is no honor but what you're talking about is fascinating because yeah it's like this this diffusion of responsibility I can't be more honorable I can't be more trustworthy I can't be good I'm here in this position because of this karmic circle and so I just got to ride this one out this is my life this is what I've been this is the lot that I've been given yeah yeah I mean I had to go false I mean I was an idiot that believed in all that stuff reading books in my early

1:06:4320s and thinking oh the East has all these answers but then I circled all the way back and found myself back in the United States because one this is mainly like a Christian culture you know they're they're they're I the whole thing that I saw with the Eastern philosophy was you'll never see people treaty treat each other worse I'd never seen such in human behavior from from one cast to another oh yeah yeah and and man in my life the curse yeah yeah yeah shit rolls downhill man like they are horrible to each other and everybody's lying and like I was like I thought things were bad in the States uh uh uh they treat the little street kids really badly too like there's like a you know a whole bunch of displaced children that were like like undesirables or something like that undesirables like I mean like it it was like unnerving and like other third world

1:07:46countries I'd been to where they were they had either a Catholic or more of a Christian and it wasn't like that you'd have poverty but you'd have people that were like you know in good spirits like people that were taking care of each other because there was there was a throughput line there was something that could that that an upline yeah which was not the case in in India at all and so the thing with India is even without because you know obviously they don't have a good reporting system or anything like that like it's not like their legal system is uh known for accountability or anything like that so when it comes to like let's say rape statistics they're wildly under reported even still in that case they're extremely high among like the rest of the developed world and the other thing that they're kind of almost meamed for is shitting in the streets right but if you understand what you're talking about right this car mix system this caste system right which is also a huge part of it like that explains if you try

1:08:52to have a defense against and go no that's not true they're not raping people when shitting in the streets it's like number one I could see videos of them shitting in the streets pretty unabashedly pretty readily available on X but if you understand the nature of their culture with the karma and with the caste system you go of course that's what that leads to of course it leads to a total lack of accountability if you're high on the caste system then you're filled with pride because of that and that's going to lead you to all kinds of things if you're low on the caste system this is just your lot this is you know you're you're you're run around in this car mix cycle this this time so yeah I'm going to go take a shit in the street and rape that animal and let me let me ask you this so for because we're on this idea of population and the idea that I get from the poor quality of workmanship and structures that we general structures of architecture or even like the quality of any like this table that we have here sucks is because there's just like a lot of people and we've got to make a lot of stuff fast and get it out

1:09:54but if there's not that many people why is everything that we have garbage yeah there's a lot of things with that well they still have more people than we do I would guess they probably have half the numbers that they say they do that that would make sense to me so they still have a great amount of of things going on the nutrition in most of the world is important meaning if you feed people really bad food for a long period of time they go stupid yeah I was very aware of this in Central America like if people only ate box food that was full of glyphosate and they only ate MSG ridden foods they literally were retarded right and they were under you know they were like a not the cool kind and not the dangerous retards so like they and so I think in a lot of these countries they eat very poor they have one they have calorie deficits too they definitely have quality calorie deficits

1:10:56and three because of their caste system or the communism in in the way communism works in countries it everything devolves to the lowest commonator in communism things don't rise it's not like oh we're all one big community and now we're all rising to meet the occasion it's it's literally everybody drops to the lowest common denominator because there is no chance for success right so you take hope out of people you take that you you take hope out of people I mean I've had hopeless times in my life and those times have sucked you know you take you extract that out of people they're not going to rise they're they're not going to complete what God has given them in the from a from a what is it called potential perspective they're they're not going to reach their potential yeah I would say that that's I mean I've heard

1:11:58before about the caloric deficit or the nutritional aspect and it's direct correlation with cognitive function and I mean yeah that makes a lot of sense especially in the case of of India which is interesting because I've heard it argued India has one of the most sophisticated medical systems of any other country in the world I don't really hear that argued so much these days I'm not even saying that jokingly I just was aware of it is sophisticated as their space as their space program that we played that I don't know if you were on the show top we played that it was very recent and it was like the most laughable time for God obviously when it happened in real time I said bullshit but to revisit it all these months later maybe it's been a year or something like that since they landed on the moon or whatever the hell I went good God it was it's worse than I could have imagined I didn't remember how bad it really was but they their food is like you know India once again the memes they don't lie it's the street food right and not only is it of no nutritional value

1:12:59it's all seems to be some form of like empty carbs but it is the sanitation issue is out of control it's completely disgusting so disease I'm sure you know things like Jardiya or you know the like are out of control out there I don't think they've just got robust immune systems because they're introduced to you know it expose shit all the time I think they're probably suffering from parasites while and I know that here in the south in in Florida there was this time in history with this epidemic of hookworm which is a parasite that you can get walking around barefoot I don't know how true that is I've heard this before but it causes a neurodegenerative disease this hookworm this parasite and it was apparently attributed to the sort of slow southern caricature that was impressed upon the south you know kind of saying that the southern man was a little bit dumber than the northern man and it could have well been because they're rolling

1:13:59around with a bunch of neurological diseases because of this hookworm so if parasites can do that which we also know your gut is like a second brain it affects not only your mood but some of your thinking so if you've got parasites in your gut and you've got parasites that are causing neurodegenerative disease they're I mean they're literally walking around I think functionally retarded because the the baseline for medically retarded I think is like a 68 IQ or a 70 IQ and if you look up you'll get different sort of information from different websites I know Somalia is mostly retarded mostly medically retarded but I think India is as well you know just to give you a little a point of fact when it comes to the southern gentry you know that was a huge propaganda thing that the south was dumb in what had happened was the south the gentry were much

1:15:01much better with rhetoric and they would run circles like when you look at like before the civil war like when the southern senators and congress people would come up and actually debate the northern the northerners they would run circles around them they were so much better at rhetoric like when you study like the they call it the trivium and the quadrivium like the seven classical rule hard second same the trivium is grammar logic and rhetoric so that's that's where the three roads converge once you master that then you can go into number number in space number in space in time and number in space in time over duration so that's math geometry music and cosmology so when you have those seven liberal arts going all the way from grammar to cosmology that's the way the south was actually taught in these little like you know ten

1:16:05person school school rooms of multiple ages and rhetorically they could run circles around the northern more high populous centers and it was it was just they completely did the inversion in history to say oh the south was the war and they were stupid and they had hookworm couldn't be further from the truth and it's like a smear campaign a total smear campaign it's just by like what Israel does like what they say oh you know the Palestinians attacked us yeah yeah yeah shout out to a wadesky in the chat he says you know the southern folk that are like I do declare yes as opposed to like the southern folk that you know you see kind of like a hoedunk caricature those are like different those are clearly intellectuals when you see that kind of a caricature displayed in media and it's displayed in media for a reason right those those people do exist

1:17:05these high high brows sort of intellectual southern folk I used to read a million bidelia to my kid and she was a southerner for sure but she was borderline retarded I don't know if you ever read that kids book yeah everything they tell her to I don't know like remove the spots from my dress and it's like she they meant like clean it and she would take scissors and cut out the polka dot hope that's from the dress and things I very funny but everything she do would be literal like almost to an autistic fashion and I do declare is something she would I declare yeah and it's like oh they were just painting this stereotype for me as a kid and then I read it to my kids and they're like I like the southerners like the difference between like the caricature and then remember Leo's character in the Django or Django when he shows the three indentations in the skull and everything like yeah there's intellectuals so I want to talk about this idea that you were expanding on before the show the the properties of

1:18:05red brick why that's even yes we showed that image before and we kind of expressed that you know there seems to be this phenomenon where even in in structures that don't have any melting going on after enough time has passed some of the outside will deteriorate and what will be exposed is that a lot of buildings actually have a different style of stone almost superimposed over a war that is red brick so red brick is is something that seems to be a lot more significant than maybe the average person is willing to entertain and when you were talking about some of the properties of it I started to think well maybe that explains it so so what do you know about what it can do? So what's really cool about red brick and it's what actually comprises it is essentially this type of clay called boxite and boxite is aluminum silicate and iron oxide so iron oxide is also known as magnetite so the raw like when

1:19:10volcanoes explode and they spew this metallic substance out into the environment that usually comes down in the in the form of magnetite well magnetite is really incredible because magnetite as it oxidizes it's called iron oxide it's it's iron molecule that essentially binds to all these other precious metals in it so it's a it's a carrier like if you're to think of homeopathy it kind of carries every metal signature with it well the aluminum silicate in and of itself is actually very pliable that's how you can like make your bricks to whatever shape you want to and the clay molecules themselves when applied heat on to them creates vitrification so vitrification is just where all like the little platelets of the clay they all kind of like they line up and they become rigid that's why a brick is much harder than just like you know just a thing

1:20:14of clay raw clay in your hands and that's because it's been vitrified well essentially what that becomes is very much like a geological magnet because what a magnet is is when you have a fairest material that has a coherent direction with all the molecules and usually that fairest substance like say you take a piece of iron and you shock it with electricity what that electricity will do is it will turn all the the little fairest molecules in one direction almost forging them at an atomic level and that will always cause a line of force to be going through the fairest material in one direction in fact I did three pods with Owen called traumatized metal and it was all about magnetism so when you have a piece of that great to anything to the structural integrity I mean you if you have all these things making a force line through this

1:21:14well the line of force is like because a magnet is a battery also because it's always doing work it has stored energy in like the trauma that that went through it like say the shock of plasma or lightning like they call it sintering in current day like when they make a magnet now they'll take a you say like an iron cobalt or something like that they'll send a huge shock of electricity through it that traumatizes the metal so you get that same arrangement of molecules but it's a fairest substance and so now you'll have a North Pole and a South Pole the South Pole is where the energy went in the North Pole is where the energy goes out and that's what gives you the poles of your magnets when you have a brick like say my phone represents a brick this red you know clay the box I clay you don't have a shock of energy going in one side and another the whole thing is being cooked on all sides by heat and I

1:22:20think most most bricks are fired at around 800 degrees that's one vitrification will happen I think you know like porcelain you know porcelain type of pottery and stuff like that's closer to like 2000 degrees it's much higher because it's a finer clay but what occurs is with this is you get more it's like the difference between forging something and then casting it right with a brick you have a cast of all this box site material with iron oxide and it's cast and it's vitrified and so you have a storage of energy but it's more a storage of heat energy instead of electrical energy so like when you have a magnet they call it electromagnetic right because it took electricity to make it with a brick you have a storage of infrared energy you have thermal energy that's stored in it so I have an image I don't want to bring it

1:23:22up because I don't want to lose you but it's what I was kind of talking about before where some of the weathering has taken away the exterior of a building it's you know clearly an old building and underneath it's exposed a bunch of red bricks could this have been for insulation purposes to build yeah it's not only insulation but it's also for thermal mass so what occurs in a lot of these old buildings that have this huge mass in it is like they need to transfer the thermal gain from what occurs during the day they need that to transfer in to the building at night and the thicker your walls are the longer your thermal gain can be meaning the distribution of the heat from the outside goes into the inside so like right now the wall is I builder about 18 inches thick it takes 12 hours for the thermal gain on the outside of that wall to get to the inside of the wall so that's really good because usually during

1:24:26the day you don't want to be hot and at night you don't want to be cold well when you have all that mass like a lot of these old buildings worked on on that principle of like okay I'll take all the heat during the day when it's hot and I'll keep the everybody the occupants inside the building cool and then at night when everybody doesn't want to be cold at night all that energy will then transfer in to the inside so it's nice and temperate inside at night and so people are and so cold that's interesting because a lot of you know my I'll it'll come up in conversation organically and I'll say like my son for example was talking about like how cool would it be to live in a castle and I said probably would suck because to try to insulate a castle in any meaningful way would be a nightmare it would be very very cold in the winter and but I wonder if this was something that was implemented a little bit more widely than we're aware of if a lot of these castles that are still standing actually have this you know underneath the surface and that you know we're kind of sound we sound stupid

1:25:28because they had a technological way to heat their their castles. I can't say that with castles I'm talking about more with buildings that were built like with them with the brick castles are a mystery to me. I don't know why like why that there would be that amount of energy going into the stonework and things like that. I haven't like looked at it enough to really say in an educated way but like a lot of these buildings that you brought up that have like a fascia that looks like it's a concrete fascia but then you get underneath the fascia and you have brick. What's really cool about brick is once it heats up it's it starts to emit tons of far infrared and far infrared actually is very healing to humans. Like it's actually it's healing to any mammal. Like you put a mammal around something that's emitting far infrared it's like when you're staring at the sunset you know you get the feel goods when you see

1:26:30the reds and the oranges. Well far infrared is like that for all of our photoreceptors in our body. To the point where like I've built Temescal is all over the world. Temescal is essentially a red earth cylinder that you bring in hot stones and you do a sweat. Like they they'll bring lava rocks into them and the reason why you use red earth in the in the building of the walls is because you know they've known this forever in Central and South America that the red earth is healing and it's because when the red earth heats up which is this boxite red clay it emits this far infrared to your body and if you're in there and you're sweating and you're purging and you're getting all the toxins out of yourself and all your mitochondria is being switched on because of the because of the red earth you're going to get you're going to get a huge boost in your health. Interesting. I have another image here because we're kind of on a steam. Go ahead. Is this red brick or

1:27:31this red clay can that also be charged by electricity or is that like a non factor? Yes a bio electricity. So if you guys ever seen the whole thing with the the faux fireplace is in Europe like in a lot of the old world. No. So I always forget. Oh wait a second. These things there's like I've seen something a theory where there's like there was a chunk of I'm going to say something stupid but like it was like uranium or some shit they would put in the fireplace and this would like warm the whole house. Is that what you're talking about? Well kind of I don't know about the Uranium thing. The Uranium thing. No no a lot of people currently are talking about uranium and radium. Both of those. Both of those being used but when I first started learning about it I think it's actually simpler than that. I don't think you needed these rare metals. So I build rocket mass heaters and I build rocket. I do everything with thermal mass. So I am an expert with this.

1:28:36Well when you look at a lot of the fireplaces in the old world in these beautiful old buildings the fireplaces make no sense because you have these very narrow flus and you have like next to no depth in the fireplace to actually put any wood to burn. And on the inside of what we would call the stack the flu that goes to the outside they would have cast iron metal. Going up that well if you burn you know fire next to cast iron and then you get condensation all that cast iron would rot it would it would rust away. Yeah. And a lot of these houses that were founded a lot of these structures that were founded that had the systems in front of the the quote unquote fireplace you'd have these really ornate metal things usually two balls on either side of the of the thing and it had this really raw

1:29:40iron like beautiful stuff and people said oh that's to hold the firewood and all that. So I have an image really briefly I know we're going to lose you but I want to show people because we do have this one right here and then this one and it has those two balls you were talking about. Yeah exactly exactly. So look how shallow that fireplace is relative to the bomb site. Yeah it doesn't look like a fire I wouldn't call that a fireplace at all. I mean it's a position like one but precisely but they all had a flu. So the people were like and by the way a lot of these old pictures of them you don't see any carbon build up anywhere. You know see that that's really nice that one. Nobody was lighting fires that they were really ornate because they weren't lighting fires. Only our dumbasses last 150 years have been doing that as we took them over. So what these fireplace is to have a fireplace you know that was that shallow is one huge fire hazard especially a lot of these buildings have

1:30:41like you know they have a wooden floor coming right up to the fireplace now like today's standards of what you have to do to light a fire in your house is nuts but I can I know the rationale behind it. So essentially they took you know the principle of voltage right like every 10 feet you go up you gain like a few hundred volts of energy. Well a lot of these homes a lot of these structures had completely conductive copper roofs with a patch on it and then they would have these you know weather veins that were told that would have red mercury at the top of the building and then they would have these you know pipes coming up right that you know essentially were rely lined in this red brick that also had the lining with the raw iron coming down but the raw iron never touched. It's kind of like a positive and a negative to a battery what you

1:31:42think. Come down and they would connect to those two little things I wish I could remember the name of those things you know there's a technical name for it and that would be right in front of that and then what's crazy is that raw iron would be grounded all the way down in the cistern in the basement of these buildings. So think if you have a four or five story building with metal conductors going all the way down in the basement in your water supply your sister and then going all the way up to your roof how much voltage do you think you have. Oh it's probably insane. Yeah I mean it's probably the purpose of the entire structure is to is to conduct an insane amount of electricity. So you have five to six hundred volts right there of electricity. So for most of you out there don't know. Yeah you're you're only pulling 220 volts from your main 240 volts at most from your mains. That's all that's all you're given is 240 volts from

1:32:45your mains. Six hundred volts is the third rail when you see somebody touch that and ground it they blow up. Right. Right. So you have 600 volts just with the potential and they're using like open bare metal lined with the red brick or the red brick in and of itself we already talked about has iron oxide in it. That iron oxide is semi-conductive. So wasn't the type of electricity that we're talking about where it's just like okay I have a battery and I'm sending electricity they call it bio electricity. That as the potential from from the the high was actually traveling from there down low there was a passive exchange into these brick layers. Wherever they put a resistance which means a short they would create a short so they would bring those balls closer together you would get more heat that heat that shorting of that voltage then would actually permeate into

1:33:51the mass and heat always travels up that's what it does and then they would run those pipes through the whole building and heat each room passively. Wow. Wow. I mean with no wood. So do you think that they're their conductors on the roof were consistent enough to retain this energy did they have like a storage was the sister the storage for this energy because it doesn't rain or lightning all the time. Well it's very odd because like all the old cathedrals would ground out their organs in their cisterns also in the springs in the cisterns underneath the cathedrals. So whatever the old world was built on they knew that the current of water that was underneath in the ground. And it's the same like I've seen this with organeach email you're like with cloud busters from Wilhelm Reich. The ones that work really good are in water that's in the ground

1:34:53like you ground out. If you have a running water supply and then you point one of those they they they work so much better. There's some principle with water that's underground when that's moving relative to a high potential state above that does a lot of work. You know what's interesting about that I mean it seems like a little bit of a reach but there's over and over again we come across as anecdotal as testimony based but people will have like you know what they deemed to be a supernatural or paranormal experience happens almost always next to running water like it it's like a little byproduct you know like they're unpacking their story and then it's like at some point you know I was next to a creek or I was next to a river when this happened and it's like so within that spectrum of information the supernatural and paranormal we've already kind of said oh that's interesting it seems to be running water I don't know facilitates part of the phenomenon. I mean also I think baptism should be done

1:35:53with running water. Yeah because you know what when you're describing this like I don't know I have like the movie you know Frankenstein in my head where he's building that that giant tower and then there has to be a lightning bolt that strikes but that's not necessarily what's happening is just potential energy that's being like gathered slowly into this orifice or whatever you want to call it. Yeah and a lot of them like they had to I don't know I've never I've never played with Mercury or red Mercury a lot of this information is secondary information by do you know like there are historical accounts of like all throughout the United States too of old weather veins that were pulled off that had of red Mercury in it. So who's to even say if there was like some sort of galvanic reaction that was occurring with the red Mercury like you have like because they say with Mercury you know it's called quicksilver

1:36:54you know it it will actually if it's if you expose an electrical current to it it will spin it will actually spin and most of these these weather veins that they were taking it out of I'm saying they called it a weather vein I don't I don't think there were weather veins they would spin like we've all seen old movies where you look up and you see a weather vein and it's spinning and we're assuming it's because of wind yeah but it's not like when you actually look at the weather vein itself there's no flaps on it it's usually a cross that's on an access with balls on it and it's doing one of these things it's just a proper to see if it's on yeah that order like that's actually telling you like not only if it's on but like how much voltage you're producing right we know like you guys are in like the lightning capital of the world when that lightning is rolling in and you feel the frontal boundary and you all the

1:37:55hair stands up on your skin and stuff because the lightning's coming in who even knows if these devices could actually distribute that level of energy and then store it in the brick I wonder there's got to be a body of people out there who understand enough about these structures that they could begin trying to replicate it even if it's on a small scale it doesn't sound like something you could scale down necessarily but I wonder what that would look like if you tried to recreate this today or if there's an element that's missing maybe some people talk about lay lines and things like that so there would be the place to do this like I mean the limestone that Florida lays on top of the water that's basically right underneath us the place is prime for what you just described I mean the lightning capital of the world I wonder if that's because of the water the limestone yeah like that is that why we're creating so much not we had a lot of lightning like I've lived in a lot of

1:38:55lightning capitals like so I lived in South Florida I lived in Michigan where we had a lot of lightning and in Costa Rica and the three the in those three places they had two massive bodies of water on either side so both Florida and Michigan are peninsula and Costa Rica is essentially a little skinny sliver between two oceans so what you have that much oceanic or water on two sides of something whenever air flows over water it ionizes and so when you get that a massive amount of ionization then it hits mass it goes over the actual mass of of of the ground that's hot you have all your convective currents so it's essentially creating a flume for that that ionized air to go up and energize the upper atmosphere and I think that's why in these areas you have so much lightning that's interesting because that electricity

1:39:56has to dissipate one way or another you know I don't know if you've ever seen it but electricity comes up from the ground and down from the sky oh yeah yeah yeah I've seen that when they do like really really frame by frame breakdowns of it you can see it reaching up from the ground as well which is I remember when I learned the kid I was like that's confusing because you think it comes from the sky it was like it partly well here's an earthing hurricanes and tornadoes are also electrical events where it's the same electrical dissipation is just over a longer period of time and because the electrical dissipation is such a greater amount of voltage they actually creates a pressure system that has to vortex to dissipate the energy so another way of saying it is a lightning strike is just a very very fast dissipation of electrical potential that if that was to be elongated it would actually become a tornado or a hurricane since it's like a quick discharge why are you I mean it makes a lot of sense I mean the technology of harp makes a lot more sense now and they certainly figure that out

1:41:00man shit what do you think about that though to for you like I mean you guys are building all sorts of things at bear Taria do you ever think like one day it would be in the cards take a crack it building something that replicates I mean obviously these things were incredibly ornate these buildings too right I think there was such level of detail in them but could you create a rudimentary version of something like this old world electrical building in their Taria and then this is and kills you yeah yeah for sure no I like it was really kind of funny that you bring that up because like when I first started building with earth bags like I had played around with electronics a little bit as a kid nothing crazy I would never say I'm an electrician I'm just sort of like a common sense type of like figure it out type of person so I'm doing these coils and I was building a 20-foot tall beehive dome it's like a Lancet arched dome and I was think I was like on like Bagley or 12 or something we're taking lunch and I'm sitting there in between each layer of bags you put two rows of barb wire and I was like looking at it and I was just sitting there

1:42:05eating lunch and I was looking at it and I was like would that be cool if I could connect each row of barb wire to the previous one because if I did that I'd have like a kilometer worth of barb wire coil right that's a lot of potential energy a kilometer of that and I was looking at it and I was like wait a minute the clay in the earth I'm using is an insulator this is an earth and battery and in that moment this is 2010 I knew that all the old structures of the old world were actually machines the potential energy in mass like we started off talking about pyramids and everything is so incredible people have no idea they don't know that you know magnets are batteries they don't know that bricks are batteries they don't know a stone even a geo-palmer stone is a battery anything that has weight that has mass is going to hold some form of energy

1:43:12and I think our previous you know civilizations knew this much better than we did I think the masonry guilds and all all the different guilds that were out there they kind of knew because when we look at the old world they didn't have like lines of wires going everywhere they didn't have any of that but yet each building in and of itself was a self-contained unit like it had the capacity like a living cell in our body you know each cell talks to every other cell but it's not dependent you know what I'm saying it has its own like it has its own definition it's own characteristics and things like that so my feeling is is that the I to answer your question directly I have built you know the the the domes I build now I have a feeling change the weather interesting what the reason well every time I build them we have more water after we build them

1:44:18we always have more rain and it's kind of crazy even now my crew of my most recent crew here in Missouri the second we started laying back like the second we started to do the masonry on our bags which is essentially putting a secondary insulator over that coil that I was talking about it always rains they're like oh we're doing we're doing stuckle work here comes the rain because it's literally like if you if you were just to take a copper wire and make a coil and then you had an insulated with shrink wrap now now you're actually creating the the the voltage differential in that coil the the point of the coil so the the pure mass of what you're doing there is calling in some sort of geological aura you know energy absolutely so look at it this way so like I was telling no and I was like okay what the what this building is is including the like the walls

1:45:22just the walls that are above grade is about 60 tons of material that 60 tons is sitting on another 12 tons of of a concrete ring that's in the ground that goes 36 inches down into the ground that has six metal rings within it everything is is in parallel and I'm like the there's no way that that structure that that cylinder with now we're saying if you add all the mass together you're upwards of 70 tons of material in that small building that that can't have some sort of resonant effects it would it's just how does that manifest yeah and so what I've seen with domes specifically especially when you have like a like a hemisphere like the domes that the other structure I built for him was a

1:46:23was a Japanese stardom that we're essentially taking the fire ratio which all phylo-taxis the you know five is essentially how God makes everything in nature like the ratio of one to one point six one two that's like how we know like whenever we see something beautiful it has those ratios in it that's sort of like God's thumbprint of like this is my creation the the star domes that we build have that ratio but it has it in three dimensions and so I think there's something that happens like when you actually start to use those energetic patterns in the the geometry where it actually does have a greater resonant effect on the surroundings I mean just the cathedrals for example I worked with Tonya Harris she's the woman that figured out that the cathedrals actually are resonance structures she's the one that played the sci-matic pattern and like she she

1:47:25reinstituted the science from another gentleman I forget his name where she would get the baseline resonant frequency of these churches in the old world and she would play that baseline frequency once you would get it and she would actually get the rose window configuration for each one of those churches in the sci-matic pattern that was shown right so that tells you right off the bat that these people were much more advanced than we were yeah like the people that were building these structures were building them with superior materials they knew how to make their own rock they knew how to make their own marble granite they knew how to do all this and then harmonically tune it well to a point to a to a point where like these these structures were just like singing we're we're born into a culture that kind of tells us everything's been figured out already and you just got to like plug in get a job and ride your nine

1:48:27to five to the grave but what you're doing is you're observing things from this common sense point of view right just your interests in building and how things work lead you to what appears to be sort of the building blocks that they were expanding on so you have this foundation that's built on common sense because you're just observing what's around you especially the way that you got the land had no money had to figure out how to build on it using only what you had around you that's exactly the foundation that these people would have come from you know previously back in the day and then the refiner's come in so if your foundation is that common sense using the elements and using this this thing that seems to be you know natural in very many ways and you're just building on it then the refiner's come in and they make it or Nate they make it beautiful they make it intricate you know I saw somebody in the chat say before you know when top was asking like what's the purpose of these things these conductors and this the water underneath and how it runs from the roof all the way through it's probably an unbelievable amount of purposes an unbelievable

1:49:30amount of usages come from this technology so once that's your base then these real like creative thinkers come in and they find a million different applications and a million ways to fine tune it and tweak it but we're we're not we're not on that base anymore we're born into a place where they go you know the sheet rock and the bed two by four is in everything like there's an industry at play you already got it and when you get old enough you could take out a high interest loan and buy a house that technically the bank owns and you can pay it off for the next you know 40 years or whatever until you die hopefully maybe you have something to pass on to your children unless they don't pay the taxes in which case the bank comes and collects it anyway but that's the model don't worry about changing anything it's already there and you go okay I'm going to latch onto that instead of going like well let me look around and just see what I've got underneath my feet and in the space that I'm occupying and how do I build something out of that which I think is that's probably the natural human condition which then suggests that what we've been talking about in this

1:50:30episode is the natural progression for architecture for building things and we've deviated you know monstrously from that and we're doing a bunch of really gay shit now yeah I really think that there's been a concert it well I don't think we know it's documented that essentially the beginning of the 20th century to now everything from an educational perspective has been operant conditioning meaning we're just told to regurgitate what some other authority tells us we're not actually given the tool of how to learn we're not taught how to learn and so that used to be totally different like you know we're talking about the Southern gentry earlier the Southern gentry knew the trivia and the quadrillion so that what that means like once you go through the seven classical liberal arts you can figure stuff out yeah you literally have the ability to observe and by observing correctly then you can

1:51:33deduce how to get things done or figure out a situation yeah these days I mean it was like one of the most impactful things I ever saw was a senator Norman Dodd talking about him heading up the Reese commission in 1951 and in 1951 they knew they knew that the five main foundations in the United States the biggest foundations the Rockefeller foundation the Guggenheim foundation the Ford foundation they knew that these foundations were taking over history and education in the state department with the stated purpose to do it with the stated purpose of we have to make the people ignorant these these damn North Americans they're too industrious they're effing up our capital investments because every time we invest into a new factory they reinvent they reinvent the wheel and now we're out all that

1:52:37capital so they literally said we're going to make these MNFers stupid wow we're going to we're going to make them ignorant and we're going to just do a care and stick method of always you know just rewarding them for regurgitation reward with regurgitation we do not want innovation no innovation we just want regurgitation that was their stated purpose and they were the money so that by 1951 they knew all history that was being taught in universities was utter garbage utter garbage you know not even taught that we're 75 years on and from that point of the Reese commission and we don't even know that in the 1950s they had figured out that almost everything that we've been taught from the scalators on backwards is a complete and utter lie I think

1:53:40we we're in this place where a lot of people understand that sometimes we talk about the whole yeary besman off thing about losing losing right and I would say we're we're there we've certainly lost faith in the educational institutions they they're outwardly indoctrination camps we watch them and doctrine people into like leftist ideology for a long time so we're in a place where I think most people are receptive to the idea that it's always been some form of an indoctrination camp it's always been some sort of workers farm right they're creating effective factory line workers or something like that with the bell system and things like that in the public school as we bring it in for a close what what's the way out of that oh it's it's very easy I just tell especially young men just just be responsible and go after what really interests you like understand that your passion will never be a vice this is the thing is like you know I've

1:54:40really had to be like with the young men that are under my purview I'm like passion is not vice you know like what like and by vice I mean like a put something dealing with the pleasure principle a passion is something that like when you think of it everything in you that's God inspired lights up and is like yes like that that is the direction and you go that way because you can't serve two masters you can't serve the Lord and you can't serve man and at the same time so what I've seen in my life and everybody that's been successful in my life is that they go after what God has put on their heart to go after and it's not for the express purpose of making money if you're just doing the man and thing which is the money thing you're gonna you're never gonna better yourself but if you go after what God has put on your heart

1:55:40and you really go for it you become that great attractor and opportunity comes you know fortune favors the bull God helps those who help themselves like it comes it it all gets magnetized in your direction so go after what what you're passionate about and like be willing to do it for free like I literally like told my dude like the dudes that wanted to be part of my construction company I treated them like it was like a fight club situation I was like I don't want to be a contractor so if you want to be a part of my thing you you must really want this like you have to like really want this and like I'll tell you what those guys are golden they really did want it and they're passionate and they're always talking about like the next thing the next thing the next thing and their level of evolution and and it's just like I it makes me so happy and

1:56:42that's the way I was like when I I didn't like get into building because I was like oh you know I'm gonna make all this money especially building domes and stuff it was just like no I need this like I absolutely need this and like I'm did I know this form factor is more like what's calling to me I'm gonna go this way and now it's become it's become a source of income and a source of inspiration and things like that but like I didn't start off with the intention of oh I'm gonna make all these like you know shekels or whatever so it's it's a thing like if you go after what you're passionate about you will get better because God gave you that passion and be honest like you've never been passionate about what you what if it's a vice driven you know you have virtue and you have vice that's more of an addiction element and so I've had to teach a

1:57:42lot of people the difference between that because a lot of people they haven't had enough direction in their life to know the difference between how addictive compulsion feels relative to you know a God given passion so I'm not gonna say that that's always the easiest thing to delineate but just on a purely logical perspective if you are actually like if you know the actual thing that you're doing is making you better that is taking you away from vice and bringing you into virtue and bringing you closer to what God had planned for you to begin with I mean that's huge you're telling people to choose faith faith in this thing that drives them over the fear that compels them to stay where they don't want to be in order to serve ma'am in right in order to make money to build a life for themselves because if not where you're gonna be when you're 30 40 50 years old what about your 401k what about your health benefits what

1:58:45about you know any of the things that a normal person does the systems already been made you just got a plug into it and cruise until you retire and maybe when you retire if you work there long enough they'll give you a little golden pin or something like that and throw you a retirement party and then you can collect and that's all serving ma'am and that's all fear based that's all doing what's safe versus this thing that is calling to you constantly and that thing where you said where you like be willing to do it for free I know top over here was a graphic artist making work for people that he admired so that he could try to not only get people familiar with his work but also build these relationships and do things for people that he admired and he did it for free for a long time I podcasted to an audience of absolutely nobody for a fucking seven years or something like that and it definitely wasn't making me any money and in fact it was costing me a lot and people judged me for it because why was I not plugging into the system and doing the thing like everybody else was doing and it's kind of painful when you're in those throws but it is

1:59:49something that is going to alleviate that that draw right there's a thing that calls you like you're talking about constantly to be in this purpose that God made you for and that thing doesn't go away and I think it's a crime dude it's one of the worst things you can do for your spirit is to figure out how to quiet that that's the worst man that's really the worst so I agree 100% with what you said that was a that was a banger you're glad that you're mixed up with Owen because it's like a strange vehicle I mean you be doing your projects anyway but like it's a different type of vehicle to put it in front of so many people that think this way and it's like yeah yeah good on both of you guys for like linking up and Owen also have for having the foresight to be like yeah let's put this guy in front of this audience that's going to be extremely perceptive to what he's doing it's about to be a weird place bear Tariya and everything I mean it's a cool place but like very unique I'm sure yeah if

2:00:49it goes on for the 10 years there's going to be like a some sort of a castle there yeah that's like like when we first met he is like castles and airships and what was so funny when he said that was like I think the first pod we did I was like you know my next her neighbor is a dirigible engineer and he's like what's a dirigible I like it's an airship whoa like literally in Costa Rica the guy Jesse Blin I buy all my exotic plants from that was that was what he did for good year was he designed blimps he he designed airships that's something we get to get into actually it's the prospect of that is terrifying because I'm imagining Owen as a warlord yeah yeah and it's like very possible yeah going around to major city centers and bombing them you know you're buying as many black children as possible as they'll allow him to buy honestly no it's like it's one of these

2:01:49things like he said he's like yeah they might eat in Charlie Kirk and I'm like everyone jumps down as I was like yo give him a second there might be something here they're probably something I mean I've seen the guy say shit and then do it and I was like there's no way he's going to do that and then do it I'm like oh my god that's actually it's then we invited my stage to do it yeah yeah I'm excited to see we're positioning ourselves to not I will we'll have good slave seats oh yeah yeah yeah we will give them from the dirigible as we bring it to a close let that let's remind everybody is a great conversation man it's always it's always a pleasure talking to you where can everybody find your work they can you know if you want anything for your garden you can go to black ol biochar that's my my main company that I have for construction you can go to tofer HQ dot com send me emails there for any of my social media podcast stuff I'm at bio charisma and everything so yeah

2:02:50those are the main places but the big thing for me the big push for me now is food because the whole food thing in the United States is about to get super hairy so that's that's my focus so the biochar company is really where I'm putting a lot of energy to well next time we have you on we should talk about the blimps and sort of the Hindenburg incident and maybe we can talk about the food thing because I I share that sentiment with you and I think that's going to be something we're all going to be considering at some point and now I have to have a long talk with my wife and be like listen we might have to go and buy a limb and buy another one actually what's cool you know what's really cool about this and I got to tell you at the bear fest all the all the meat that's going to be cooked and prepared there the was from cows that graze that land that's sick yeah yeah so Owen has Owen is part owners of you know essentially a cow

2:03:53hurting company that my friend here my neighbor here runs and so we use like 75 of those acres that are on his land to actually run the cattle and so all the sausages like all the meat all the steaks all the burgers are coming from that land like literally if there's no closer farm to table festival that I know of around that's awesome how do these guys do this that's awesome I'm running two three I'm running like three companies and I'm kind of like losing my hair I'm running half a one and I and you are the guy like you guys are doing a cow a cattle company to is like this is got to do more got to do more here's here's the thing though like the to that point each one of us would be doing what we're doing anyway so like I would be building domes anyway I would be making biochar anyway like my daughter and I she's like are we making biochar

2:04:53today daddy like it's like it's just like that's what God has put on my heart to do so I do that and it just happens to be we're all family men and we all want our families to have a nice area like a PG rated area that doesn't have like mk you know whatever you know running through it where kids can just be kids and mothers can relax and it's just like it's it's just a cool cool scene it's like I can't ever I grew up in the 80s and 90s I can't say that that was like a PG rated environment growing up it's out it's out Florida but like I'm getting to see very wholesome like the word wholesome isn't used much all of us men that live here that have our businesses that are doing what we're doing we want a wholesome life for for our kids we want to wholesome life for our family and that's why we've all like you know pretty much we're all like

2:05:54perfect years meshing with Owen because that's exactly his stated purpose so it worked out really well man it sounds right it sounds like the way it's it's supposed to I know that the way that most people are doing it isn't right and then you go well what's the alternative you guys have I get started to carve out a pretty good alternative I got a fucking go take a look for myself and I mean damn it tofer yeah I was like I was like I need to be resigned to be like you know what this is like it's just short notice and it's kind of like expensive and I kind of drag my feet now I'm like oh no but I got it did yeah do you like to drive because last year when I came is it you guys it was a 12 hour drive I got two kids yeah they are extremely annoying I like I used to drive for live I would drive eight hours a day it's like no sort of my back but to bring them I yeah I got to fly yeah I got to fly with it I got to make it happen though but tofer thank you for coming on again man it's always like to catch up and talk when you're in Florida or hopefully if you can

2:06:55get to bear Terry you will hang out will hang out and be cool to do like I don't know they're probably busy but if we did go and we did a pod from there that we don't know we we've actually built the pod dome so there's a dome there like that's what that's where we do pod so yeah there's a pod dome of course there's a dome it should be made out of red clay all right guys another great episode of NDS until next time don't forget to obey submit and comply we'll see you later