THROWBACK | 019: The Lore Lodge w/ Aiden Mattis

0:00This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East. This is with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culture East. This is Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. You know when people try a new food and suddenly it's like, okay, hold on. I got a new favorite food. That's the reaction a lot of people are having when they first try Cupid Mayon. Yeah, it's the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. You've probably seen it at the grocery store. And this mayo is different. Most mayonnaise uses whole eggs. Cupid only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor. It's smoother, deeper, almost buttery. Once people try it, they start putting it on everything. Egg sandwiches, fries, burgers, chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really care about flavor use it. Put it on just about anything. Then you'll understand Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. Welcome back guys to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. Before we get started, I just want to... I just wanted to give you guys a heads up. Don't forget to go to YouTube or Rumble. If you guys are fans of the show,

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3:01Top just worked on the super dope, Nephilim and Chill design, which I think is awesome. And just for a little inside baseball, that was inspired by a couple who was cuddling up on the couch and posted that they were getting ready to watch Nephilim Death Squad together. So very cool. Go and pick yourself up a Nephilim and Chill shirt because there's no better way to treat the lady to a date night than a schizophrenic content by a couple of retards. But any merchandise... Like David was saying, we're going to do a promo code. And that promo code gets you 10% off of my stuff too. I'm going to be adding more to my collection as well. Just got a couple of things up here. Some cool stuff. Guys, if you do go to the website, make sure you click on it because there are more than one item that you can get from here. So there's like hoodies, t-shirts. You just got to kind of click around and take a look and you'll see a bunch of things. So please go check that stuff out.

4:02Yeah, I like... I'm a personal fan of the Reading is Gay. But between that one, the top lobster design and the chirp, it's like a really hard decision. I think I actually bought my Reading is Gay shirt before the chirp. And then I got really kind of bummed out. I was like, damn, dude, that would have been a good one. But yeah, I mean, if you click on the design, like for example, going to the Neffel and Death Squad section, clicking on the design, it will then show you that design over multiple different products. So if you're a Patreon member, we're going to hook you up with a promo code soon. We don't know how much that's going to be for. But regardless, whatever merchandise you buy from now to the end of January is going to land you in a raffle. And that raffle is going to make you eligible for a enhanced royal rife. It's called an enhanced royal rife machine. It's a frequency therapy device made by Matt Rife, not the comedian. We're talking Matt Rife of RealRifeTechnologies.com.

5:04And here it is right here, enhanced royal rife machine. The damn thing costs $5,500. People use it for all sorts of stuff. Top, you've been using your rife machine recently, right? I use it all the time. I have, yeah, he actually sent me this one. So I have used this one. I have the smaller one and I have the middle one. The, you know, I'll just show it over here real quick. Hold on. Yeah, these are things that people are using for to kind of deal with headaches and all kinds of ailments. And because of the FDA restrictions, you're not allowed to say certain things. So it has to go under the guys of therapy. But people swear by these. If you go to realrifeTechnologies.com and you click on the testimonies, there's no shortage of them. People absolutely love these machines. They swear by them. We talk a lot about frequencies and the different capabilities of frequencies on the show very often. And it's very cool that we're aligned with somebody who literally creates machines just for that. Oh, and the RifeShield comfort blanket.

6:04It's how cool is that too. I actually have mine. Oh, damn it. I don't have it next to me. I had next to me where to go. Maybe I do. I do. Never mind. I keep mine. You don't keep it over your nuts. I keep mine over my nuts whenever I'm broadcasting. Just in case the government wants to try to, see, maybe I'll wrap one around my head like a, like a coofie or something like that. There's a new tinfoil hat people. Let's just go ahead. No, I feel like it's like one of these. Actually, kind of, yeah, this is the new tinfoil hat. What is this called? Like a chic or like a beanier or something like that? This thing is dope. It's definitely racist. But if you go to realripetechnology.com and you use promo code Nephilimet checkout, that's going to get you 10% off these products as well. So not only are you eligible if you buy our merchandise to win a Royal Rife machine, enhance Royal Rife machine, but you can also go to realripetechnologies.com and go through all his various products. And all his products are they're geared around protecting you from harmful frequencies

7:06and generating positive, helpful therapeutic frequencies. So if you're into that sort of thing. This thing specifically acts as like a Faraday cage. So I will put this on my kids if my kids have them. I don't like to give them my phone, but you know, it's 2024 and they're going to use it. So I'll put this over them. So it doesn't fry their testicles. It blocks frequencies from Wi-Fi, from Bluetooth, as up here you go, right here, from Bluetooth and from radio waves. Yeah, it was in it. Nobody uses radio anymore, but just in case any of that's just floating around. This stuff will at least minimize your exposure to it. So consider it. I like it. It makes for a great hat too. I actually lost a testicle because of testicular cancer. And I can't help but wonder if it's like, I have this really nasty habit of just putting my phone in my lap. If I would have done that over a Faraday blanket, maybe I would have not lost my nut. And so if you want to avoid,

8:07I mean, you want to try to protect yourselves from these frequencies, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, all these things. We have no idea. The jury's still out. We don't know what these things do to you over long-term exposure. I'm sure we're going to find out. I'm sure it's going to be terrible, but you can be proactive. You can go to realrifetechnologies.com and get not only things to protect you from these dangerous frequencies, but also things that are going to emit positive therapeutic frequencies like the enhanced Royal Rife machine that you can win if you buy NDS merch. So use promo code, nephilim, at checkout, save yourself 10% off and buy merch from toplobs.com, get entered into the raffle. I think that's it. Yeah, let's start the show. What are we doing? This is boring. Start the show. Play the music. Play the music. What do you... First play, David. We have music. I don't know what he just... We have music. And part... We are being hypnotized by people like this. Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

9:10We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we told is going on and what it's really going on is happening. Oh yeah, dude. They're saying we have one shit. Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am your host, David Lee Corboa, aka The Raven. This is Top Lobster. I hope everybody had a lovely new year's. I know I did. It was a very cool time. There we go. What's up, Marshall?

10:10Joining us today is Aiden of The Lore Lodge. Aiden, before we get into things, can you tell everybody a little bit about what it is that you do and where they can find your work? Sure thing. My name is Aiden Mattis. I am a historian by trade. That is my education, my training. And I make videos about unsolved, basically unsolved mysteries for the most part, whether that is people who disappeared under strange circumstances. I, you know, conspiracy theories about the true history of the world being written down in a book from 1965 and censored by the CIA. It wasn't, it was not. It was just the ramblings of a madman. But, yeah, so that's kind of what I do. You can find me at The Lore Lodge here on YouTube. Or my personal channel is just Aiden Mattis. And that's where I do some more streaming, reaction and gaming stuff. But yeah, so that's why I am. That's what I do. I also have the A background in religious studies. I am super excited, Aiden. To have you on number one,

11:11and number two, to have everything that I thought before or thought that I knew completely shit on. So this is like, just like five minutes before the show, started, he's just schooling us on the Neffelom, like never heard that, never heard of that, never heard of that. And I'm like, damn, I don't really know what I'm talking. I feel like maybe we should just end the stream now, because we have no idea what we're talking about. So, you want to get that word said he muttered before we started? Was he was like, I, number one, that's not how you pronounce Neffelom and number two. That's a stupid fucking name you should rename the show. And that we will write to you. I said neither of those things. Actually, history will prove Aiden if we go back. I did not say you should cancel or rename the show. That was you. Could you actually give the fans the listeners a little, like, listen to a little bit of what you were just talking about in the pre-chat, because you kind of ran through the idea of the name, the Neffelom and if that is even accurate historically? Yeah. So the whole concept of the Neffeleme is one of those things

12:16that really for the past 2,000 years or so has been relegated to the upper echelons. That's kind of the ivory tower discussion is you've got people who are biblical scholars sitting down and they're like, okay, what does this passage actually mean? This is Matt Rogers from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Okay, we've been talking about Cubi Male for a minute now, Bowen. Wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of you all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love Cubi. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Cubi? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Will the answer egg yolks? Cubi is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it,

13:18people who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Cubi hit. So if you haven't tried Cubi yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand Cubi, the original Japanese mayonnaise. You get to a little bit later, you know, the 1900s, even the 1800s, the printing press is a pretty easily accessible thing for people. The Bible is now a very accessible thing for people. They can go and pick one up at a local hardware store. They don't need it to go and find their families heirloom Bible from the Middle Ages, crack it open, and figure out how to read Old English in the first place. Not Old English, but early modern. So you get a series of people who start to look more deeply in everything. And they look at, all right, well, here this text says this. And this one says something different. How do we reconcile these? How do we talk about them? And what you get is suddenly this topic that has been pretty exclusively reserved to the elite within that group, you know, the priests, the deacons, the cardinals,

14:23within the Protestant churches, you know, some of the higher level pastors, elders and things like that. Suddenly that is being discussed by the common man. And then with the evolution of the internet, it goes into overdrive. And you've got, all right, well, one person heard this about Nephilim and then went and looked at, looked it up and they got something from another random site and so on and so forth until you have millions of people with different views on what these things are. The version that has sort of made its way into the public consciousness is that Nephilim are essentially denny gods that they are the offspring of angels and individual humans. And usually this splits into two main camps. One of them is the ancient astronauts, Zechariah Sichen, like these were the people from the planet Nibiru who came down and they created human beings in a slave race. And these are the Nephilim, you know, because the Hebrew word Nephal means to come down. So that's why these are the heavenly beings. These are the same thing as the washers essentially.

15:25They're aliens who came here to insulate humanity. The other view is a bit more the biblical side which is that these were angels who were assigned to humanity to watch over us, to keep us on the right path. And that this group called the washers, this is all from the book of Enoch. This is not in the Bible, this is in the apocrypha. So in Enoch, the washers, they decide, I'm not really not really vibing with this whole just being a babysitter thing. I think we could be gods. And if we agree that any punishment, visitor upon any of us, must be visited upon all of us, God can't really punish us all, right? You know, they can't arrest us all if we try to storm area 51. They do all get arrested. And in this case, being arrested means that you are chained underneath a mountain being basically turned into a rotisserie chicken for all of eternity. That's specifically for the rebellious angels. That's not what's supposed to happen to us.

16:28But that's kind of the biblical view is these guys came down. They had children with human women and those children were the Nephilim. These half-angel beings who have extraordinary powers who are exceptionally large. In Enoch, they're like 10,000 feet tall and they have relations with animals and children and they eat human beings. They're true genuine monsters. The Bible itself is a little bit more tame. I'll read you the literal translation. It is, this is Genesis chapter 6. And it came about that men began to multiply on the face of the earth. And daughters were born to them. The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were good and they took wives for themselves of all that they chose. And Jehovah said, my spirit shall not always strive with man in their airing he is flesh. And in his days shall be 120 years. The giants were in the earth in those days and even afterwards when the sons of God came into the daughters of men and they bore to them. They were heroes which existed for ancient time the men of name.

17:28So the Nephilim are clearly not the guys that came down from the sky. They're the ones that were born here as a result of people coming down from the sky. It's this why, you know, like human beings, we seem to have this integral. One of the things that's part of our stories over and over again is like this idea of banging the babysitter. Like it's hardwired into our psyche is this idea of having sex with the babysitter. And now it's starting to it's like a throwaway kind of like cultural trope that all of the sudden I just found a home for. And it now seems much more important than just some like throwaway mechanism in a Hollywood movie. But it's actually because they were the worst babysitters. And they came eventually they were like, I don't want to watch these kids anymore. Yeah, it's I'm going to fuck these kids. Yeah, basically what happened. I should clarify before anybody gets too excited or gets angry at me. The the Enoch, the the Sitchin explanation is pretty roundly like,

18:28no, these are not aliens who came down to this planet. There is no mention of Nibiru in the ancient Samaritan texts. Sitchin did not know what he was talking about. That's kind of the general consensus. With the the Nephilim the biblical issue, it's a little bit more complicated. The there's my camp, which believes that this is in fact describing angels coming down and procreating with human beings. The other camp is that and I have a whole respect for this camp as well. I just disagree with it. The other camp is that the sons of God is not referring to the angels, but to the line of Seth, whereas the daughters of men are the god, the ungodly line of Kane. I know. My cousin's husband came from that exact angle at me and I was like, that's the first that I've really ever heard of that. It's either people that are like I have some wants that are pastors and churches. They really they don't even look into Genesis 6. They're like, we're more about salvation. And that's like, you know, pretty widely spread. It's either in our camp about salvation. And now I'm like, for the first time I've heard that and I was I was kind of perplexed by it.

19:31And he said that it was from the from the line of Seth. I'm not exactly sure what break that down. What do they think? Yeah, it's so this is I'm not as well versed in this explanation. So forgive me if I if I'm imperfect in it. But their belief is that this is a a much more symbolic kind of language and that when we're talking about the godly line of Seth, well, they're godly because Seth was the replacement son for Abel. And you know, Seth's people were faithful and they did the right thing and they tried to live by the whatever commandments they had because there's basically nothing there. We have no idea what the rules were for these people. There's just kind of you can infer. Well, based on what the 10 commandments are, they probably had something similar. And we know that murder is a bad that that's not a good one. Murder's bad. That's basically the first command that in the Bible is don't kill. I or don't murder, I should say. Their argument is that Kane, because he murdered murdered Abel and

20:36was put away from God and forced to wander the earth for a sarnady and so on and so forth, that his children were ungodly. And that Seth's children, his offspring were godly. And that what caused the flood, what caused the wickedness of man was that these two groups of people began to interbreed, which previously had not been done. And once they did so, that inherent wickedness in Kane's line polluted the godly purity of Seth's line. And that created these men over an hour, who these mighty men who were capable of great acts, either of good or of evil. And that God basically went, this is kind of an irretrievable situation. We got to start over from scratch. I'm going to find the one guy, the one righteous guy. And that's Noah. Noah, of course, there's this the common, the common description that you'll get all through school, Sunday school,

21:37and you know, religious education. You'll typically hear if you are not in a scholarly setting, if you're not in a discussion setting, you're just in a classroom lecture kind of thing. What you'll typically hear is that Noah was the only sinless man on earth. Well, original sin, he can't be sinless. So what does righteous mean? Does that mean he's the least sinful man on earth? It gets kind of into the weeds here. This is all getting very vague and ambiguous. How could that possibly be the explanation? The alternative is that what actually says, let me see if I can grab this really quick. All right. We're going into this idea that he was perfect within his generations or precisely. These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations. That terminology is too specific to be accidental. It's talking about bloodline. It's talking about bloodline, in my opinion. So what that means is that

22:42Noah's family, Noah specifically at least had no either, again, this is either the ungodly line of Cain or the angels or the watchers. He has none of that DNA. He's untouched, which means that whatever inherent sinfulness is in the DNA of Cain's line, whatever inherent evil is there, Noah doesn't have it. And therefore his children don't have it. So you get, you can start over fresh. There's of course plenty of arguments over how literal is this story supposed to be. Was it really just Noah and his family on that arc? Was it Noah as the patriarch of a tribe or a clan that was on that arc? Is it really two of every animal? Are we talking about just the local animals? Was this perhaps something more complicated than we're being told? There's also the question of when did all of this happen? It also took 120 years to build this thing, which is the other thing is that is that what that is

23:43saying or is it like this is the issue with the Bible is there's so much time dilation. There's very few instances where you're given a specific set of months, you're at best given years. And even then it's hard to tell if this is some form of numerology, some form of symbolism, did Adam actually live nearly a thousand years or is this, you know, Adam's tribe lasted that long? Like what does this mean? So with regard to the timing, it's unclear what is meant by that. It could be that God was saying you have 120 years to prepare could also be that God is saying mankind will no longer live for hundreds and hundreds of years. You're capped at 120. You know, there's a few possibilities. All of them have pretty good theological backing for the most part. Those are the two big ones, though, is either God was saying man's lifetime is now shortened

24:44considerably. Or this is how long you have. Noah is supposedly that he preached about this and told people it was coming and nobody listened to. This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culturista with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culturista with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Okay, we've been talking about Cupid male for a minute now, Bowen. Wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love Cupid. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Cupid? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Well, the answer, egg yolks. Cupid is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Cupid. So if you haven't tried Cupid yet,

25:48find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. One of the things that I always find compelling is for the argument of the Nephilim being the mixing of the human women with the fallen angels is that you do see that echoed in Greek mythology, right? Where it's like, that's how you get all your demigods. And I'm of the contention that I guess contention is a strong word. I like to entertain the idea that these entities could have existed, but they're just renamed because you'll find that, right? It's one entity who's in charge of you know, agriculture in the rains or something like that or another one who oversees you know, war and things of that nature. And these entities, you'll find a representative of those attributes across many different cultures. And I like to toy with the idea that it's certainly not my idea that these are just the same entities going by a different name. And so when you see,

26:54you know, for example, the idea of like the seraphim, right? This like shape-shifting race of angels. And then you look at Zeus, who what shapeshifts into a swan, I believe it is, and then digs down some lady and she gives birth to, what is is that how you got who's the got perseus? I'm not sure if that's how you got perseus. I'm so bad on my Greek mythology these days. It's been a long time since I read Percy Jackson. Yeah, I might be I might be mensing, you know, the formula for one demigod over another. But I know that that is part of the lore, right? Is that Zeus? He transforms apparently into a very irresistible swan, pay some lady a visit. She's like, I like the look of this swan, and then gets digged down by the swan. And then you know, that's where you get your sort of, once again, you're, you're men of her now and you're heroes of all, right? And so this is the horny motherfucker. Yeah, it is a lot of animal stuff too. I just don't know like that's like, I don't know what ladies were into back in the day, but he's like, I know how to get her. While we're here,

27:56while we're here, let's just bring the conversation right over to some really weird stuff. Cryptids. Yes. Are these are these products of the fallen? Because like we know that they like to do some animal stuff. We just spoke to L.A. Marsouli and I am completely convinced that they're doing some kind of hybrid breeding stuff and they've been doing it for a long time. What are you thinking about this? Have you, have you covered this? He's flipping through papers right now for the listeners. So yes, he's covered it. I love that this dude has like just, he's got everything you bring up. He's like, actually, I have got reference material and I got all the books. There's all within. I've never read him. You can't much of it because it's, I'm going to wait for my girlfriend to walk past, but there's, there's a whole, a whole bookshelf right here. God. There you go. And he's just pulling all his reference material right. So there's a whole station. They're all my, my, my hard covers. The, yeah, let me see though, because it's, I want to have one thing up in front of me for, for what you just said, but yes. Sorry, the husky, the husky is speaking. Oh, good.

28:58Yes. So we're the, yeah, for the, I'm blanking. What were we talking about? We were saying the, the, yes, the end of the, the breeding experiment thing. I think, I think it's a super interesting subject because the, the term cryptid refers to something that is, I said to exist, believe to exist, but science has come up with no proof that it exists yet. So this kind of applies to things like Bigfoot, the Chupacabra. There's a, I guess, a Loch Ness monster would count for this as well. Sort of those things that are very well known folktales that seem like they could be real, but they're not, there's just something in there that it hasn't quite been proven. This is why things like the fleshgate and the rake are not cryptids. They are internet horror stories. The fleshgate does not appear in any, you know, there's no, you're not going to go back to 1500, you know, search through the woods and find a little Native American

30:02community that tells you about the fleshgate. It's just not going to happen. You might find talking about the Wendigo though, which is why you have characteristics of the fleshgate that are so similar to the Wendigo, Skinwalkers, the Goatman, all of these different things that kind of get mixed into one. We have a video on that actually that's basically titled exactly that, like what you get when you mix the Wendigo, Skinwalkers and the Goatman. So in my opinion, I don't know that I necessarily say that I think that there's a lot of mixed breeding projects going on. I will say I am not opposed to the idea that there is some sort of force out there creating weird stuff out in the forests or in the depths of the earth and all that. But what I think is most interesting to look at in terms of what can kind of cross that bridge between people who are very interested in the supernatural and people who are more interested in anthropology and the sciences behind it. When you look at something like Bigfoot, what's Bigfoot's Native American name?

31:05Yahweh. Sasquatch. Sasquatch. Yahweh is actually an Australian one. Not too far off, but yes, Yahweh is the Australian one. So Bigfoot's called Sasquatch. Well, that comes to English from a even more Native American term, Sasquatch. Sasquatch were believed to be these large humanoids. We're talking six and a half, seven feet tall, who lived out in the forests of British Columbia. And they were said by the the Chahalish people, hey, these guys live out in the caves. Don't go near their caves. They're very dangerous. They're very fast. They're very strong. And they seem to unable to agree. They were speaking to a man named JW Burns, Canadian journalist and teacher. And they seemed unable to agree, are these are these natives like us? Are these the word they use with strange Indians? Are they just are they us but with a different culture? Or are these a different kind of person? Yes, yes, you're good. All right. Okay, sounds good. Today's sponsor is

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35:09years. Now it's about 25,000 years. Who knows? It could go back as 50,000 or even 120,000 years. We could be looking at human beings being on this continent for a very, very, very, very long time, which also means we know that there were Denisovans. Those were hominids around who lived around the same time as Nandertals. We know that they were over in Siberia. Who's to say they also weren't over in North America? Who's to say something similar to that that we just haven't discovered yet wasn't here? And could it be that whatever that was, it survived long enough to work itself into the oral traditions of modern Native Americans? So I look at that angle and I'm like, all right, maybe that's what we're dealing with here. I like to try and stay more on the scientific side of the supernatural so that we, I want to always create that entry point. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

36:09Okay, we've been talking about Cubime male for a minute now, Bowen. Wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of you all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love Cubime. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Cubime? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic male? Will the answer egg yolks? Cubime is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Cubie hit. So if you haven't tried Cubie yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand Cubie, the original Japanese mayonnaise. Where science and superstition can kind of meet in the middle and

37:10say, all right, let's pursue this. And for me, that's kind of how I look at cryptids is, all right, well, what inspired this story? Because it could be in some cases that it was inspired by something very real. We might, if somebody told you at a bar that, you know, they had run into a venom-spitting giant lizard and they gave you some silly name for it, like the snailigaster. Well, you might say that's ridiculous, but those exist. They're commoto dragons and monitor lizards, like they're real. So a lot of these things that we look at and we say, oh, that's supernatural, let's go story, whatever. A lot of that stuff could very well be at the very least based on something real that grew and evolved over time into something more legendary, or it could just be a very accurate description of something that we don't know is there yet. I think one of the reasons that we bought up the cryptids is because we're going into this realm of discussion with you about missing 411.

38:11And I don't know if you're, I'm sure you are aware that the theory surrounding it, what's the gentleman's name? David politis. David politis. It seems as though, and I don't want to put words in his mouth, I might be mincing ideas here from one source to another, but it seems as though his theories on the whole thing have evolved in a direction that includes essentially possibly cryptids and portals, dimensional slips, things of that nature. And you know, I speculate as to whether or not the reason for that jump is because, and I love the idea, as a sexy idea, it's a lot of fun, but I do speculate as to whether or not it's because of a lack of concrete evidence or already other answer that you would start to explore these, these realms, essentially. What are what are your thoughts on the entire, for folks that don't know missing 411, I highly recommend checking out the docu series. I guess it's a docu series. Yeah. And it's about these very

39:16unique missing persons cases in national forests and national parks, where the distance traveled by the missing person seems to be, it doesn't match up with the time frame within which they're missing. In other words, to get to point a to point b would have taken a national article amount of time, and they don't believe that a person number one could do it in the time frame. And number two could traverse the kind of treacherous landscape that is between the points, especially given the age of some of the people who are missing. There's all kinds of very bizarre circumstances where they will sweep an entire, let's just say, mountainside and find nothing. And then suddenly in a very obvious place, the belongings that the person will suddenly appear well after the search is over and be discovered by someone who's just kind of out there, you know, exploring or fishing or hunting. And also there is no discernible signs of

40:20struggle or injury. So sometimes they'll find their belongings, but there's no blood. There's nothing like, I believe in one case, they even found the clothing of one of the missing people kind of folded up and placed nicely on a log. And so it is strange. What David Plyllis has done is he's met these missing persons cases all out. And he's drawn correlation where I suppose someone could make the argument there is none. But in his mind, these are all connected. And the thread that connects them is the mysterious circumstances of the disappearances. So I'd be really interested in hearing your take. Do you go into this paranormal supernatural thing? Is that even an appropriate terminology for this? Because it might just be something that we don't understand yet. And so the supernatural and paranormal are often things that are not defined by science, but may yet be at some point. I'd be interested in hearing your take on that. Sure. Yeah. So I think I think that the one of the best ways to refer to basically anything in

41:25in paranormal or supernatural in that world is to look at it as kind of being stuff science hasn't figured out yet. Because chances are whatever that story is, there is some sort of realistic explanation for what happened. And when I say realistic, I don't mean that there can't be some sort of thing we don't understand. I mean, that eventually we will be able to understand it. All science, all sufficiently advanced science looks like magic to people who don't understand it. I'm going to level, we live in the year 2023 or 2024 now, I guess. I still don't really understand how electricity works. And I probably never will. I understand how currents, this is direct current, this is alternating current. And you need one to make sure it goes along for a longer period of time, because it will dissipate. And you know, it goes into my wall socket and then it powers my device. I get that part. This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East. That's with Matt Rogers and Boan Yang. This is Boan Yang from Lost Culture East. That's Matt Rogers and Boan Yang. Okay, we've been talking

42:25about Cupid male for a minute now, Bo. And wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of you all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love Cupid. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Cupid? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Will the answer egg yolks? Cupid is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles. Chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Cupid. So if you haven't tried Cupid yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. The physics of generating electricity and how it functions totally lost on me. Um, so you know, to me, that's that might as well be magic. I'm aware

43:31that there is a way to do it, but there's also a spell for something. So it's really funny. There's a recipe. One of our good friends, Matt Rife, who owns a real-rife technology, he's dealing in this kind of stuff like Tesla coil energy and stuff like that. He was telling me about this argument that he was having with Dr. Parkinson's, Parkinson's time. Another dude who's kind of babbling. He's like dabbling in this like this kind of electricity stuff that I don't understand. They're saying that they're sending electricity through the ground 900 miles to another state and it's picking up the signal because, and I'm just like, he's telling me I'm like not a fucking clue. Yeah, barely know that I can plug something. It's amazing. I can plug something in my house and it works. And there's people at that at that level where I'm just like sitting, I'm sitting and watching. No idea. It could not replicate it. Couldn't tell you how to do it. Phenali and race appeared on Earth today and asked us how electricity works. I could not tell them. I was driving the other day and I was listening to Stevie Nicks or what's the band she used to have?

44:33Fleetwood Mac. And there's this song on the edge of 17 I think it is. It's an awesome song. I love this song. It's like a guilty pleasure in mind. But I'm driving and I'm thinking like dude, if you went back to like the 1700s and all of a sudden dropped a stage with Stevie Nicks and she played this song, people would fucking die. They would just die. They wouldn't be able. It would be such an overload. So yeah, that would be magic. They'd be like, I don't know. These fucking wizards just got on on a big platform and they started playing sound at us and the sound was certainly of the devil and yeah, and my aunt died before my eyes. It would be astral world. So it's very interesting that you bring up wizards because that term, obviously, you know, we have Harry Potter. Now we all think about wizards as guys with ones who cast spells and all of that. The term wizard back in the middle ages when it developed meant wise man. And these wizards were alchemists and astrologers and and potion makers. And all of that sounds very magical and bippity-boppity and you know,

45:35you got Mick Beth and the witches stirring their pot. But if you look at what these people are actually doing, well, what is alchemy? We all think about it as turning lead into gold, right? But what is alchemy actually? What is the process of taking one material and turning it into another one? It's material science. It's chemistry. It's chemistry. The term alchemy comes from alchemy. The term chemistry comes from Kenny. Like they're the same, they're the same root word in Arabic because they're the same thing. Just alchemy was a little bit more more hudu, you know, like, all right, well, if we mix these things, maybe we'll turn this into this. It was very similar with potion making. I mean, think about what potion makers did. You come to your your potion maker, your court potion maker and you say, hey, I have some aches and I've had a lot of, you know, my nose has been running recently. And they say, oh, if something up for that, and they take a whole bunch of herbs, maybe maybe some powders of certain heavy metals and maybe like, I don't know,

46:38bone dust or something, they grind it up, they mix it with some water, they create a tincture, they create a beverage, anything along those lines and what do you end up with? Well, you end up with a pharmaceutical drug. That's what potion makers were. They were apothecaries is probably the right term for it, but they were pharmacists. They were, they were people who put together mixtures to solve ailments. And then you have astrologers. Well, whatever astrologers, obviously today, astrology is something that, you know, 20 year old white girls do to make sure that they're compatible with their boyfriend. Thousand years ago, it was astronomy. It was looking at events that have happened, well, what position were the stars in when it happened? Are the stars in that position now? Could it be that we're witnessing the same event repeating itself? That was astrology. So you're seeing, and of course, there were people doing all the weird stuff, too, but the point is, all of this old magic, as we describe it, was in fact science. It was just a very rudimentary form of it that today to us would look like kids playing and, you know, playing with baking materials. But

47:43to them back then, three-field crop, crop rotation was a new thing. Being like, oh my god, if we leave one field there in for a year, it'll come back twice as fertile. Let's do it. That was new around a thousand day D. What's interesting is that was new, and now we're obviously dealing with like much more advanced techniques for agriculture. At the same time, when you're looking at the pyramids and whatever that was, whatever was going on there, we're not even able to replicate how they got those stones there with modern trucks and having machinery. So, yeah, it's like, for me, it's like a give and take, right? I'm like, yeah, in a lot of ways we have made advancements, but in a lot of ways, maybe we've forgotten a lot of stuff. So yeah, the pyramids are one of those things that I took. I'll be honest, I took one Egyptology course in college, and I dropped it because I got lost. The names are so foreign, the dynasties overlap. It's really complicated keeping it all the other. I'm sure if I had taken a few months and really sat down and focused, but it was

48:48like my sixth course that semester, I just wasn't some not about it. It really is one of those things that people have come up with methods that could have worked. It's just, is that method remotely efficient for doing this? And the answer is usually, no. Like the method of, okay, well, we're going to take a copper saw and we're going to throw sand into the sawing point, and then we're going to slush it with water as we saw, and that's going to get us through the block. Well, yeah, that'll get you through the block, but it's going to take a long time. Yeah. And also why they choose such a hard type of stone. Yeah, the precision that they did it with, there's also that idea of like wetting the sand and sliding these things over almost like it's skiing over the sand. You know, there's a lot of things that they come up with, but it's like, yeah, does this work at scale? When you're talking about however many blocks over however many megalithic structures. Yeah. And then the other thing too is it's weird because

49:50you know, the courses, the way I look at it is like when you have guys like Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock, take what you want from their theories, but it's very clear that the verdict is still out. Yeah. And to to saddle someone down with debt and say, take this class and we're going to tell you what it is. I don't know necessarily what that class is like, right? But I imagine there's a lot of, there's certainly you become vested in the information that you've been given because you have a monetary investment in it. And then that you can see that's what kind of creates the like the gatekeeper system that exists in archaeology, right? The same thing that Randall Carlson is allegedly, you know, budding up against constantly is these are these gatekeepers that tell anybody who has an alternative theory that you know, it's completely out the window. And it's just we're probably going to get to the point where 50 years from now, much of what

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55:07history degree, this is Matt Rogers from Los Cultures. This is Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Cultures. This is Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Okay, we've been talking about Cupid male for a minute now, Bowen. Wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love Cupid. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Cupid? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Will the answer egg yolks? Cupid is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Cupid. So if you haven't tried Cupid yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand

56:08Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. What your future looks like is essentially one of three things. You are going to be a professor. You are going to be an archivist or you are going to be a amuseum curator. Those are like your three main options when you get a history degree. Archaeologists have the benefit of they can also go and do field work. There's really no historians can't really do field work. What does field work for us? Going to the library. So that's what professors do. Archaeologists have the benefit of being able to go into the field, but part of the issue there is when you are getting into it, well first let's take historians because that's what I'm most familiar with. If I were to have gone the typical route, then I got out of school and I took a year off to work private sector or try and make a little bit of money and then go back. You go back or you go straight in and you get your master's degree. And while you're getting your master's degree, you get you work as a TA. So you are probably either going to be teaching a very low level course or

57:15possibly you're going to be teaching, you're going to be assisting with a grad course or an under grad course, something like that. That is below your year. Very rarely you'll see a master's student get to teach their own course, but that's usually like a review kind of class. You get your master's degree. Now you can be an adjunct. Adjuncts make like 20 grand a year. Jesus Christ. Yeah, you get paid by the class. You don't get paid for being a professor. You get paid by the class you teach. So you don't make a ton of money. You're usually teaching it two or three schools all in the same area running back and forth, you know, day to day. We'll do that for paying off debt. Oh yeah, you do that for five to 10 years while you get your PhD. And if you're lucky, you get your PhD in just five years in the US. It's a lot quicker over in Britain. They have no like real reason to keep you there because they don't hold their academics to quite as high of a standard. And they also are it's free. So yeah, I remember I was talking to students at the the UK school. I was going to

58:18get my master's degree at and every single other foreign student, everyone who was from another European country, but particularly people who go into school in both the US and the UK told me that by far, I would probably be the best educated person out of all of the students in every single one of my classes. Because the American education system, once you get to college is considerably more rigorous and only the people that come out at the top of their classes here in the US go to school over in the UK. So you're getting like the best of the best American students going over there to do their grad schools. And usually you're doing that because you want to be around the history or study. But say you work, you spent six years getting your undergrad and your masters. You are now 24, 25 years old. You then start your PhD program, which takes you another five years, hopefully you are 30 years old. You got a job at the university that had a position open. You are making 50 grand.

59:22Geez, man. What incentive is there to break from the system that is going to make sure you live? There's a strange incentive. What you hit that point from the other side. No, exactly. So when you get there, what you're facing down is if I go outside of the mainstream, if I break away from what is acceptable, I will likely never work in academia again. I will probably renegade. Exactly. You will be so ridiculed, so criticized that you will never have the opportunity to come back, which means that college that's employing you as a professor is not going to pay off your student loans. They're not going to give your kids free tuition. They are not going to provide you with 10 year that keeps your job secured. You know, maybe it's a lower salary, probably 80 to 100 grand, but it's going to keep you secure forever. So even if it's not by design, it is still, maybe let's call it accidentally,

1:00:23the most effective vaccination machine. Yeah, yeah. Accidentally machine. It's an indoctrination machine because it literally by short of threat of violence tells you what you have to believe. It's or else. You know, Aiden, I was going to ask why you started doing your show and you just explained it. You gave us the whole backstory of it. Man, I'm glad that you're super successful with it, man. It does open up another lane for historians and people with this kind of inclination to actually explore ideas. That's beautiful, man. Even if you're going to shit all over what I think, I just I love it. I'm joking with you, man. What I say is retarded the other half is a lie. Yeah. Yeah, it's frustrating and it's a little frightening looking at it. I remember I tell the story a lot, but I was sitting in a classroom about a year ago, I guess, and a retired professor who had

1:01:25worked in both academia and in the media as he was a radio host. He basically came in and he was sitting. He was talking to our class. It's probably 15 of us, maybe less grad students at Westchester University in Pennsylvania. He comes in, he's kind of going down the list and he's talking about his experiences and then he starts asking us what we want to do. Why are we in grad school? Most of the answers are one of two things either I'm planning to be a professor or I am in secondary education or primary education and I am doing my continuing education, which is where the school basically pays them to go and get more education to work on master's courses. Those are the two primary reasons. The secondary school teachers were told, good, you know, you should probably look at taking some courses that are, you know, be more picky, maybe take something that's really going to give you a heavy bargaining chips. You know, if you're in social studies, go take a site course because you might be that might help you take on another class,

1:02:27get paid more, that kind of thing. To all the kids who wanted to be professors, he basically told them you're in for a rough ride. You're you're going to struggle. There's not a lot of positions open. The professors that are in their 60s are not going anywhere for the next 20 years. The ones who are younger than that are the majority and they're not going anywhere for 40 years. You are going to be going to whatever school has an opening for you. You are going to be making very little money and you are going to have to hope that things work out. He gets to me and I say, well, it's always been sort of my plan to be a professor so that I would have time to write novels because that's what I wanted to do is I wanted to be an author. And I said, and the other thing I would love to do is consult on media productions, whether that's video games, movies, TV shows, I would love to be one of the guys that gets called into the writing room and they say, hey, we're doing a show about Vikings and we need to know, you know, would it be appropriate to have them in England in the year 75080? And I can say, no, that's 40 years too early. You're going to need to wait. I would

1:03:34set it, you know, if you want like early Viking period in England, let's talk 795 to 815. Life looks nice to hire you because they love that. I think all the old like the Roman people were black and one of the, let's go to the point. Somebody, yeah, somebody, I know they just did that with like some, I believe it was like, it wasn't even just that. There was another one. There was like a Viking, uh, yeah, that it was black woman. It was insane. Huck in the good, who's like an important one. Uh, it's not, that's not like a random Viking chief, then that's the guy who converted normative Christianity. Uh, so yeah, and he also lived way before leaf Ericsson, which pisses me off enough about that show. Uh, like we're talking about I think 925 to 936 was his reign. leaf Ericsson was like the 980s onward. Uh, it's why I can't watch anything on Netflix. Everything on Netflix, like it's like every time a documentary comes out, I'm like, it's not a real documentary.

1:04:38It's like some form of just a brainwashing or or purposeful disinformation. It's, they have a whole thing. Sometimes it's not even purposeful just to get random, like random disinformation, maybe just if they're taking higher, it's a lot of it really is just that people, they don't know. They go on Wikipedia and they're like, ah, what does Wikipedia say? Well, as long as I'm close to that, it's like Wikipedia's angle as well as long as I'm close. So you're saying, well, as long as I'm close to the guys who went as long as we're close. I think you're giving them more credit than they deserve. I don't think they look anything up. They could just, they're just saying it. And then what they can do is they can plug in different ethnicities. And then they hide behind this sort of like, um, racial justice barrier. And then it's like, well, you can't create it. It doesn't matter what we say. It doesn't matter how historically inaccurate it is. We have just real here. It gives us total creative. Davey, we're doing it wrong. We need to become social justice warriors on this show. So whenever someone's like, Hey, listen, that's definitely happening to be like actually,

1:05:39I'm Spanish. So you can't say that all of the Nephilim were black women. All right. So let's all right. Let's start. Actually, I'm really doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get back to because we don't have very much longer. And I wanted to get your thoughts on the whole missing for one more. What do you suspect is happening here? So that's that's been an interesting one. That has probably been the the position where my opinion has changed the most over the last couple of years. When I went into it, I was first exposed to it. The, I want to say Mr. Ballin was probably the guy who he told a bunch of missing for one. So he's a great job with it. He's great, great podcast or very entertaining, very good storytelling voice and all of that highly recommended. But he was telling the stories basically as they were written from from Mr. Ballin and not from Mr. Ballin from David Politis. And there's a website called Strange Outdoors that also records these. I This is Matt Rogers from Los Cultures. That's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Cultures. That's Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

1:06:42Okay, we've been talking about Cupid male for a minute now, Bowen. Wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of you all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love Cupid. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Cupid? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Will the answer egg yolks? Cupid is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it. People who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Cupid hit. So if you haven't tried Cupid yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. The way that they were all appearing, it sounded like they had to all have some sort of supernatural

1:07:43aspect to them. Um, and so we started looking into it, you know, why, why is this kid who was at this, this summer camp? Why did he disappear and end up 3,000 feet higher on a mountain two miles away and why was his skull missing? Seems very odd. You dig down into it. Well, Bobby Beezup was at Camp Saint Mallow, which is a Catholic boys camp. This was in the 1950s. As it turns out, I think four different counselors who were there at the same time as him eventually ended up being caught abusing children. Um, Colorado was like the center of that whole Catholic priest abuse scandal. So, all right, cool. So let's dig in a little further. What else do we know? Well, at the time it happened, it was said that he, the last he was seen, he was down fishing in a creek. One of the counselors said, Hey, come up. And then he was never seen again. In 2018, a team went and they interviewed some of the other kids who were at the camp and a bunch of them clearly could remember

1:08:44probably the same night. If not earlier that week, Bobby being over at the snack bar, speaking to one of the counselors who was a seminarian because everybody who was a camp counselor there was either a priest or a seminarian, he was speaking to one of the seminarians and then they saw him run away very upset, like crying, like ran out of the room, like out the door even. You look at the case of Bobby Beesup. Oh, by the way, after that story aired, a guy came forward and revealed that he had in his possession a child's skull that was given to his father by the guy who ran the camp. What? So you look at that story and you go, I don't think this was bigfoot. I think this was, this kid was molested, ran away, got scared and died of exposure up in the mountains because he was in the Rockies at 11,000 feet, wearing a t-shirt. You look at that story and it's like, I feel like this one probably has a more reasonable explanation. But then there's other ones. There's

1:09:47Garrett Bardsley, for example. He was with his father on a Boy Scout camping trip. This was in the Wassatue into a national forest. This is about an hour, I'd say, east of Salt Lake City and they're up in the mountains and he and his dad are fishing around 8 a.m. the first the first morning they'd woken up at the camp. This was not, this was not a sanctioned Boy Scout trip. This was the Boy Scout troop doing it as a private thing together as, you know, fathers and sons trip. Garrett and his dad are fishing. Garrett slips into the water. He gets his feet wet in one of these lakes. Decides he wants to go back and change out his socks and shoes because it's just uncomfortable to have wet feet. He's 150 yards from the campsite. The way back to the campsite is basically 75 yards in one direction, turn a corner, 75 yards in the other direction. At no point on the trail, are you out of sight of either the dad or the camp. One of them can see you at all times. Garrett actually goes past the turn off and his dad calls back to him and says, Garrett, you missed it.

1:10:51It's back there. Garrett comes back and his dad watches him turn on to the proper trail. So now there's only 75 yards between where Garrett was last seen and his destination, the campsite. After 20 or so minutes, he's not back from what should have been a 300 yard ground trip. So his dad goes and asks the camp and he says, hey, is anybody seen Garrett? They have it. They start looking all over the place. This is Salt Lake City. We're talking Mormon community here. Mormons are pretty intense about community and about family. You have dozens of people who don't even know Garrett, who don't know the Barg's Leads, up in those mountains searching for him for a week. Nobody finds anything at all. The most commonly cited explanation for this, because it can't be that Garrett was kidnapped. There was just no way for that to happen. He would have screamed. There would have been a sign of a struggle. Somebody would have seen it happen. There was just no way for Garrett to be kidnapped. So the only other explanations of that

1:11:53Garrett ran away, which he had no motive to do and nobody found him. So how far could a little kid possibly get at that time? He was 12. The other explanation given if we're sticking with non-paranormal explanations is that he was grabbed by a mountain line. Now, mountain lines can approach pretty silently. They can hook their jaws around the back of your head and cut your brainstem. They can prevent you from screaming and they can basically disappear with a fully, you know, a 12-year-old boy is not too big for a mountain line to drag off. Unlikely that there will be no blood, but it's possible. The problem is Garrett was carrying a fishing rod. They never found the fishing rod. Which means if he was attacked by a mountain lion, he would have dropped the fishing rod. There is no viable explanation excepting that Garrett's father like drowned him and hid the body. Which based on the way his father behaved afterwards seems extraordinarily unlikely.

1:12:56There is no explanation for this that fits within what my understanding of the normal world is. Something must have taken him. What? What can take a human child without them screaming and without any blood? And to me, the only thing that really makes sense is another person, but again, a normal person could not have pulled that off in the way that they did. What does that leave? It leaves something that is humanoid, that lives out in the woods, that is accustomed to that territory that can move near silently. We're talking about a perfect predator, perfect hunter, and something that probably based on how fast Garrett went missing, lives underground. Garrett was near a boulder field. He was in the mountains. There's caves everywhere. So it makes me wonder about that possibility. Now, am I going to say that's the when to go? Two years ago, probably would have. I'm a little bit less certain about what precisely is doing it, but what seems

1:14:00clear to me is that in a minority of missing 401 cases, there is no possible explanation accepting that he was taken by the feral human beings bigfoot, something along those lines. Now, what you believe bigfoot to be is up to you. For me, it's basically a large humanoid that lives out in the forests doesn't necessarily have to even appear non-human. That's, in my opinion, why we never found a bigfoot skeleton is because it would be indistinguishable from a large human. The reason that you wouldn't find bigfoot hair is because it would be indistinguishable from hominid hair, genetically. So that's where I net out on it. I think that's the broad broadly, that's my take on missing 4011, is in a lot of the cases, you find something like Bobby Beasup, where to David Blades' credit, when he came out with the Bobby Beasup story, his version of it, that was before any of this investigation was done and they determined that this was almost certainly a case of child abuse. David Blades didn't have that information. You could argue that

1:15:05he should have gone and gotten it, but he's one man who does not have the resources of an entire news station. So, can't hold that one against him, in my opinion. But that is kind of what I see with a lot of this is, in a lot of cases, there's a good chance that something normal happens, something tragic, but something normal. Every once in a while, something comes along that just doesn't click, just doesn't make sense. That's actually what the video we're putting out on Friday is about, is the cases that don't make sense. But yeah, I mean, it's weird, and whether or not the body is found also has a lot to do with it, because in some cases, the body isn't found, like Garrett Bard's Lee, Stacey Aris, Tom Messick, but in other cases, like Bart Schlier, the body is found and the body is found, in a position it really shouldn't be. Like, his job was hunting grizzly bears and tagging Siberian tigers. This is the kind of guy who wasn't going to get crept up on. He's also an excellent physical condition, excellent health, early 50s. From what I could tell,

1:16:09I didn't have a family history of heart attacks, aneurysms, stroke, anything like that. And he just, disappears, appears he died the very first day, he was on a moose hunting trip. And moose are very dangerous to the average person, to a guy like Bart Schlier, a moose is a deer. It's just not, this is the guy who bow hunted grizzly bears, like Kodiak, grizzly bears. Bow hunted. He's not going to get crept up on by a moose. The other issue is he was torn apart, like they couldn't find all of his body. And the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said that he was killed and eaten by a bear. The problem was that when bears don't finish their meal, they leave it in a cache. They dig out a hole, they bury it, and they cover it up with dirt, and they come back for it later. They found none of that. There were no human remains in any of the bear or wolf scat in the area. And there was a case just a year prior to that, where a photographer was eaten by a

1:17:10grizzly bear in Alaska, caught the whole thing on camera, like he managed to capture his own death on camera. Yeah, it's dark. But the thing is, when they killed the bear that did it, his clothes were in the bear's stomach. They found no bear scat with clothes in it. They found nothing. So whatever killed Bart, it left none of the telltale signs of it being a bear, nor of it being a wolf. What was it? You know, some people have argued that he did have a heart attack, that he did have a stroke, something like that, that he died and he was scavenged. But there was also no evidence of that. There was no signs of scavenger animals picking apart his corpse. So it's, you just look at it and you go, okay, I guess. All right. I like you. I like to see when guys like you and one of our friends, Justin, for cryptos of the corn, he's a biologist. He does the same thing because he's always studying different cryptids

1:18:15and he'll tell you about cryptids like actual animals that people thought didn't exist, but lo and behold, they exist. He was like that and then he had a big foot encounter and he's just like, I don't really know what to think anymore. You're just going to just kind of like lost. When he said big foot encounter, what was the eye? Do you ever describe it to you? He did. You'd have to, I mean, I don't want to mischaracterize what he said. Maybe David remembers better, but he'll give you the first hand account of what he said. Enough to change his mind to say clearly there is a big foot and this is a dude who does this professionally. He's a professional biologist. So he's an incredibly major guy. Yeah, put us in contact because I'd be happy to have him on our show too. Oh, he's like strictly information driven, a real analytical mind when it comes to these sorts of things. What was the channel? cryptids, it's a cryptids of the corn. Fantastic channel. When you talk to him, ask him about

1:19:15organic UFOs and the upper atmosphere. You're going to have a blast with that. Organic UFOs. So cool. It's so cool. It's my favorite part of the entire episode is fungal based organic UFOs. I believe he was describing and it's really compelling stuff. He went off the movie or how it related to the movie up or not. I'm sorry. That's the Pixar film. Yeah, that one. What's the what's the what? Nope. That's what it was where they had sort of an organic UFO situation. It was a great movie. But when I hear these things, Aiden, I can't help but think about and I just wonder, I know we're getting close to the end here, but if you had any thoughts on the situation in Peru with the face pillars, I'm sure this has come across your radar. And there's these reports of what the government of Peru called miners. Right. So these are miners with technology. The descriptives that came out and this whole thing is very strange and

1:20:18shrouded in mystery and you only get these anecdotal stories that bleed out onto the internet. It's hard to make heads or tails of what the situation is. But one of the descriptives was sort of these armored beings that had an aesthetic that is closely resembling green goblin from a spider man is the way they described it. Although I don't think there was any green involved and that they hovered three meters off the floor as they moved through the forest and that they were basically surgically peeling people's faces off. And I don't know what to make of that. I don't jump towards aliens. To me, that sounds like a technology-based thing that sounds like I wouldn't be surprised if the more information we got, the more it painted a picture of a military operation or something in that nature. And even a video came out of them retrieving a young girl. I think she was like 15 or something who they actually intervened and stopped these things allegedly

1:21:20from peeling her face off around her jaw. You can see that there was these incision marks and she was bleeding and she was traumatized. But otherwise the video was just a bunch of shouting Peruvian people. You can't really, you don't know what this is. I know that Timothy Alberino, the archaeologist is very much of the school of thought that this has been a recurring issue for the natives of Peru, something that they've been dealing with for months, preceding the events that we saw popularized on the internet and made it to Western media. But when I see things like that, I can't help but kind of place that on the same table that I might place something like some sort of sanctioned operation rather that's happening in national forest. That's a sort of turn that a lot of people take. Something is happening in these national forests, these national parks that is being allowed to take place. It is of maybe a governmental nature and you know,

1:22:25they're protected by the fact that this is a national park and there are people can't really come snooping and you can't lodge an investigation in these places that the woodlands are so dense. But what do you, what were your thoughts? Did you guys tackle that at all? This Peru event? So I didn't. I think when I heard about this, I was actually down at Tim Pools compound. This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East, that's with Matt Rogers and Boan Yang. This is Boan Yang from Lost Culture East, that's Matt Rogers and Boan Yang. Okay, we've been talking about Cupid male for a minute now, Bo. And wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love Cupid. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Cupid? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise, the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Well, the answer? Egg yolks. Cupid is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything.

1:23:32Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles. Chefs use it, restaurants use it. People who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Cupid. So if you haven't tried Cupid yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. I remember correctly. And I think I talked to Brett and Phil about it. I think I did at least. What I remember, what I remember thinking about reading through it was this seems like humans. Um, that I, this does not sound like aliens and it does not sound like any sort of like monster to me. This sounds like human beings. I never looked too deeply into it because of that. I, but I also did not come across the video you're talking about. So it might have been a function of when I looked. But yeah, that's, I mean, to me, that, that sounds a lot like illegal, like organ harvesting.

1:24:33Um, I mean, the idea of like peeling someone's face off doesn't have a ton of, a ton of applications. Right. That's what that was my thinking about it. It's like why even do this? And there's these videos of them pulling a body out of the river and the body has, you know, no face. It's, it's white skull exposed essentially. And there are a lot of claims that this was essentially someone who died and face planted in the water and piranhas and things like that had access to the face. Um, which to me checked out, I go, oh, that's, that's reasonable, right? If somebody dies and they fall fit and their, their head is the only thing that lands in the river and their body's just laying there before anybody finds them, all sorts of aquatic life is going to have at your face. This is, this could, right. And so, but then all of a sudden, all of the media outlets that are tackling this, they're all making this correlation as if this is real. And it's like, okay, well, obviously if it bleeds, it leads. And so there's a, uh, I'm sorry. Um, gotta pull up this guy.

1:25:33This guy's, he's my co-host on my other show. Is this true? Uh, yeah. When did you do the night of the show called the Weird Bible podcast? Okay. Cool. Just make his day and say shout out. Cool. That's it. Yeah. Shout out to Cole. All right. Cole. I'll do it. I'll do it in front of the Weird Bible podcast too. I don't get, we're filming that in a couple weeks. Oh, awesome. That's hilarious. He's got to get it right now. He won't stop about when he will not. He's free now. Right now. To the point where I'm going to drop. I have, you know what? I've watched like some of his episode and he's like, have you finished it? And I said, you know what? I'm not going to watch it anymore. I do, I do the show and I like out of out of pure spite. But maybe I will now, because you seem really cool. Aiden just a just a spite date. If you like, if you like the Nephilim stuff, I can actually, you're weird Bible. It has its own channel and everything. We're on. Oh, yeah. No, I know. We know about Wendy who I'm just messing around because he loves him so much every, every time we bring up some sort of conspiracy, he's like, oh my god. Like when to go and I'm like, you know what? He's talking about all of it. I'm trying to remember which it was

1:26:37because there's a couple of episodes from the show where we talked about Nephilim and angels and demons. Yeah. I episodes here. I'll grab and I can send them to you guys. Yeah. What's the name of your, what's the name of the show again? The one I do with Wendigoon is the Weird Bible podcast. The Weird Bible podcast. All right. You've got at least one new subscriber I'm checking that out. Thank you. Yeah. Here's a, yeah. Here are the two that I believe deal with Nephilim sent them to you in the chat, but awesome. Yeah, but that's for the aliens thing. I think I think the biggest problem we have right now with anything like that is the way that media works and how it's, you know, something gets out there and there's immediately 150 TikTok conspiracy accounts saying this is what's happening in Peru and news reports and, you know, of course, they're, you know, relying on like the national inquiry as their source. I, so by the time it even

1:27:42gets to somebody like me's desk, I'm already like, oh, God. You know, and everybody else has already decided what it is. Somebody faked a video and now the whole internet thinks it's this like, you know, I mean, I'm trying to remember, oh, a great example of this. The MH370 stuff that just happened. I saw it. I saw you getting in the dirt a little bit. What happened there? What was that about? Ashton Forbes basically posted this video that seems to do the mic cheer. No, it did. No, that got higher. Okay, there we go. That's what that was. So I have a standing desk that I only ever used sitting, but yeah, so what happened with that was that I was just scrolling through social media. I was on Twitter and I come across a post by Ashton Forbes that's like, here's a video of an H370 being sucked into a wormhole and I went, I know next to nothing about this, I was 16 when it happened. That's it. That's that's that's I remember a plane went missing and everybody was

1:28:45confused because they didn't find any debris for a while. So it was just disappeared for like two years. I read, I retweeted it and I said, you know, I know very little about this, but it I'm intrigued. Should I not be intrigued? A lot of people will like you should be intrigued. So I reached out to Ashen and I said, hey, you want to come on the show and talk about this. And he said, sure. We planned for November 19th and I planned that the Friday before that we would put out a video on MH370 as a primer and also so I could go back and learn and study and see what came up. We did that and we talked primarily about the story and why we don't like the official narrative. And then part two was quick recap and the conspiracy theories and why we like or don't like them. The one that I liked the best was this was a lithium ion battery fire. There were 221 kilograms of lithium ion batteries in the cargo hold of the plane. They were not properly insulated. The way that lithium ion batteries work is that if a fire starts on one, it will

1:29:49rapidly spread to the next one, creating a trained reaction. And when you're talking about a sealed pack of lithium ion batteries that are all simultaneously on fire, really in any sealed compartment, that's a pressure that's a pressure bomb that is going to go off at some point. I think that's what happened. I think the fire probably spread to the electrical systems knocked them out and the plane went down. In my opinion, the reason that it was weirdly handled by world governments and media is that that's pretty embarrassing for the FAA. Yeah, that's kind of like especially when everything's trying to move into this electric, that's the direction, go green. This is the same thing that I saw happen. I believe it was in New Jersey. We had a big storm, a bunch of Tesla's ended up when they first got rolled out, something went wrong. All of the Tesla's exploded in fantastic fashion, like devastatingly. When you're trying to tell everybody to go green and go electric, maybe you do just maybe that's why the MH what is it? 370 that's why it gets buried

1:30:54is because of climate change. In a way, that's kind of what I think happened is for some reason or another, this lithium ion battery fire screw up somebody's plans. At the very, it could have been as simple as like, oh god, people find out about this. They're never going to fly again. If people find out that we've actually been allowing people to fly with bombs in the cargo compartment, then who's going to ever trust the FAA, the United Nations Civil Aviation Authority, like all the different groups who two years later, in completely unconnected fashion, banned the carrying of lithium ion batteries on passenger planes. Over certain amounts, you can have like your cell phone in the cabin with you because it's very easy to put out one lithium ion battery, very difficult to put out an entire cargo hold for them. So you can still have them in the cabin. You just can't have them anywhere that is not accessible by the crew, such as the cargo hold, which during

1:31:55flights is not accessible to the crew. So I think that that's most likely what happened to the plane. What happened with Ashton was that at the end of our second video, we kind of went over his the videos he had shared. And we were very careful to not say this is Ashton's theory to not say these are Ashton's videos. We were basically like Ashton Forbes put this information out, and then we went and talked about the information with leading Ashton entirely out of it. And the reason we left Ashton entirely out of it is because we disagreed with him, and we didn't want him to feel like we were coming for him, we were piling up, we weren't. We had a professional disagreement with the guy. And that was based upon the fact that my co-host, my editor, Aiden, was able, were both Aiden. He was able to replicate the effect. At least one frame of it. He was able to replicate in a dough mirror. You the guys who debunked those videos. So we were one of the groups who did. Interesting. We did not have the most complete one.

1:32:58Ours was basically, hey, here's the thermal video. And we took the animation of the wormhole opening up that was allegedly fake. And then everybody would come out and say, this is an asset from a 90s video game. The asset mostly matched. At first when nothing had been color corrected at all. But it definitely wasn't exactly the same prior to any color correction, which is what I said to Ashton on the live show. And so when we go to do the video, Aiden wanted to take a crack at it and see if he could figure it out. So he changed the tint and the saturation to remove all color. And when he removed the color and it just turned to black, a lot of the little imperfections that didn't match disappeared completely. And the end result was that you had a single frame at least that was a perfect one for one match to what was in the video. Now the likelihood of that. This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East. That's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

1:33:59This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culture East. That's Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Okay, we've been talking about QB Mail for a minute now, bow. And wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love QB. And if you're thinking, wait, what is QB? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mail? Well, the answer, egg yolks. QB is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, QB hit. So if you haven't tried QB yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand QB, the original Japanese mayonnaise. Is astronomical. There's almost no chance that you're going to have

1:35:04something that happened in real life that was caught on video. Perfectly match a designed asset from a lab for even one frame. What game is it, the asset? You said it was from a guise. It was from an asset pack. Like a, basically a royalty, you went and you bought the asset pack and you had no royalties. So these, these are effects that have been used in multiple movies and video games throughout the 90s and early 2000s. I think one of them, one of the items in the pack was used in Star Wars. Like, so he matched one frame perfectly. The reason he didn't go on and match all five frames perfectly is that he didn't feel like it was necessary. Yeah. Just because of the likelihood. Uh, and he didn't have time. So we were in the process of actually doing all five and matching all five frames perfectly so we could show people a video where it was just layered right in and see if they could tell the difference. Uh, then then it basically came out that yes, the videos were in fact fake. It was proven

1:36:08they were fake. The assets were the original source assets were posted. Ashton admitted he was wrong. But, you know, he's still in the process and I remember saying to him, I remember saying to him privately, hey, I like what you're doing. I like the passion you have, but you've got to make sure you're careful that you only say stuff that you can you can really provide evidence for or that you can at the very least say, hey, it was reasonable at the time for me to believe this given the information that was available. And I said, you just need to be careful. But if you if you make sure you follow those two rules, you will you will be fine no matter how this ends. You will have established yourself as somebody who can do investigative content and you can be in a good place, even if you're wrong. Right. I mean, still what you did, wasn't that. Right. And that's where I mean, what the work he did was incredibly extensive the hours that he put in. But if he would have gone the route that you described, you still have this credibility as someone who's willing to beat the analytics to death, which is what we need in this realm of like the

1:37:12unknown, right, with all these different accusations and all these different claims being thrown to have somebody who's willing to tear things apart on such a minute level is exactly what you want. But instead, it seems that I suppose when you put that many, it's the same thing. You go to a university and you dump in all of this money, you you become indebted, you put in countless hours. And now it's very hard for you to say actually the information that I was said was was wrong. Yeah. It's it's time invested that makes it almost part of your identity. And for him, it certainly was. He became synonymous with that with that theory. And I mean, still to this day, I look at it and I go, damn dude, that was awesome. Like what you did was awesome. The work that you put in was awesome. It's a shame that it, you know, it can't be recognized as that. Yeah, it's you that's the the the the difficult part of all of this, the style of content creation is when you are talking about

1:38:15the unknown, there is always a chance that what you're talking about will become known. And then you've got to be prepared to deal with that because you might be wrong. And for a very long time, I was I was kind of in the same position with missing four and one where I was like, no, I, I firmly believe this and I will prove it. And it just got to a point where there was an overwhelming amount of evidence that the exact belief I had was wrong. And I had to go, all right, well, based on what I have here, I still don't feel like this is something mundane and normal. I feel like there's something going on here, but I got to revisit. I got to look back and gotta say, all right, you know, what did I miss? Where could I have been better? You know, where where did I make a connection that wasn't there? And is there another possibility? And unfortunately, that's I mean, that's that's hard on your ego. To go, yeah, I was I was wrong and now I'm going to

1:39:16make a video where I say I was wrong. And that video where I say I was wrong is going to be seen by more people than the video where I was wrong. Like, that's it. It's good for you as a per how old do you Aiden? 26. It's good for you as a person as a man. Um, to well, doesn't really matter what you're doing, whether you're dabbling in front of a huge, you know, 370,000 people audience or if you just being like raising your kid, you know, even with your girlfriend, you're going to be wrong sometimes and being able to kind of eat shit a little bit is super useful. So, you know, it's unfortunately, it's sink or swim for the people who are in this kind of realm that are doing this. We're going to be wrong all the time. Clearly, I'm going to be wrong way more than you're over Aiden because we don't know what we're talking about. I'm going to be wrong if it's anything regarding math. So yeah, or electricity, we already like we have an idea. But yeah, it's a great, it's a great lesson to take away and be like, yeah, you know what, I can be wrong and we can still continue to search and have an open mind, especially people like you in this field. It's like, you're the

1:40:18kind of person that they should be the general population should be looking for someone who's like appreciate that. Might be wrong, but let's find out what the hell happened or like, I'm open, you know, I'm open to see what's going on. I love that. I personally love that in content creators. It's just people in general. So yeah, thank you. Yeah, that's that's all I want to do is there's there's weird stuff out there and I just want to find out what it is. Oh yeah. I think that that's one of the things like, you know, the show is called Neville and Death Squad, but we tackle all topics. Neville and Death Squad, I think is just a banger of a name and just hits hard, you know, but you know, I think the in content creation, one of the worst things that you can do, especially in content creation related to the unknown is to like pigeonhole yourself as the missing plane guy or just the the Neville and Guy or the whatever guy. It's like because you're somehow tying your identity into a theory and that theory is going to evolve over time.

1:41:20And if you're intrinsically tied into it, that means that you're going to be forced to sort of become part of the public image of that theory. And that's a strange place to be and there's no reason to be there. There's no reason to be there. You're not the information. You're just exploring it and it's a real tricky thing to do because these things are were certainly previously more difficult to explore. But now, you know, the climate has changed a little bit, but because there's sort of taboo subjects in the first place, the last thing you want to do is become synonymous with one or the other. Exactly. The one thing I will definitely say is to anybody interested in making this kind of content or doing independent research, the value of a J store subscription, it is $20 a month. The amount of access you get to the actual academic source that's being cited is priceless. I mean, there have been so many situations where I read something that somebody said something out there and I went,

1:42:28hmm, weird, what's their source? Oh, it's from a journal article. Went and read the journal article and nope, it's not what it says at all. Just utterly invaluable. Many such cases, man. But I think that that's actually a great place to leave it because I have some things to do in an hour. We got to be back on for another two hours. We're going to be on with Josie. Yeah, Josie, the Redhead Libertarian, we're doing spaces. Yeah, I mean, listen, if you want to hop in, hop in. It's a space is about the paranormal. So bring your A game, motherfucker. We're talking about high-strangeness and we want to have you know, you people that whoever's listening, Colin, we want to we want to hear what you have to say. Maybe Aiding could be there and just debunk you in real time, which would be amazing. I got my own show at seven, but I might be able to pop in for a little while there. And we've got to lose confirmation from both Shane Cashman and and Tony Merkel that they they may pop in and just share some stuff with us. So

1:43:34I got some beef with Shane. Really? No, no, really. Aiding is one of the bears. He's one of the bears. I do not. There was just a there was one thing Shane said on Timcast, like a year and a half ago that I just shook my head. It was like damn it. Was it about the clouds? The clouds are real. I can't remember what it was. It was such a long time ago. It was not real beef. I was just like, oh god, I like I'm not real. Clouds are not real. This is yeah, it's a whole thing. All right, that's for another time. Yeah, you got a lot to learn. So let us know and let everybody know one last time Aiding where they can find your work and then we'll get out of here. Sure thing. Sorry, my dog is sitting on the chair behind me. So I'm going to move my books. Yeah, so I am a madness. I am the host and lead researcher of a channel called The Lore Lodge. I am also the guy behind the weird Bible, the history, my own personal channel, Aiden Madis.

1:44:35And you can find me any of those places. You can also find me on Twitter at Aiden Madis or at the Lore Lodge. Actually, I might be at Lore Lodge at Lore Lodge. And also I'm basically everywhere is at the Aiden Madis or Aiden Madis. Awesome. I got to follow your personal account, but thank you again for coming on. I'm always baffled when like people, very smart people, people with large platforms decide to talk to us. And thank you. You drop some knowledge on us and I'm very appreciative. Hopefully we'll see you a little bit later. I'll try and stop in. Hell yeah, thank you, man. All right, guys, we'll catch you in an hour. See you later.