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What happens when you have to choose between two impossible options?

In this episode, Patti Katter and Brent Robinson go rapid-fire through 10 “this or that” questions covering aliens, ghosts, time travel, simulation theory, mind reading, teleportation, money, fame, memory, and even mortality.

Some answers are funny. Some get surprisingly deep. And a few open the door to bigger questions about how we think, what we fear, what we value, and what we believe is possible.

Questions include:

  • Aliens or ghosts?
  • Read minds or see the future?
  • Travel to the past or the future?
  • Know you’re in a simulation or never know for sure?
  • Teleport or become invisible?
  • Unlimited money or unlimited free time?
  • Know when you’ll die or how you’ll die?
  • Lose your phone or lose social media?
  • Fame or anonymous success?
  • Remember everything or erase selected memories?

A fast, funny, thought-provoking episode built for debate, instinct, and a little MultEyeVerse chaos.

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Broadcasting from deep inside the vault, this is the vault expert. In a world full of noise, this is where real stories break through, where courage meets conversation, and every voice carries power. Here, ordinary people reveal extraordinary strength and resilience. The vault expert. It's the unlocked power purpose and perspective. Hello everybody, you're listening to another episode of the vault expert multiverse edition. Welcome Brent. How are you? How are you doing? Good. Good. It is always great to have Brent Robinson with me. It's a new refreshing thing that we have going on in the show. And you know what? I'm going to talk to you from an undisclosed location today. So if the lighting's a little bit weird, there's a reason. I can't really tell you where I'm at right now.

In Brent, he can't tell you where he's at either. I can't. So Brent, I thought it would be a great idea if we just talked a little bit about some of the things that we believe in, or maybe we don't know the answers to, I have a few questions for you so that the audience can get to know our new vibe that's going on. And we're just going to roll with it. How's that? Sounds good. Yeah. Excellent. Okay. So my very first question is going to be about aliens because you know what? In Washington, DC, there are so many rumors going around about aliens right now. The government even issued an aliens website. Did you know that? I heard a little bit about it, but I don't know the details. But I totally believe there are aliens. I went out to, for a previous podcast I did.

I think I told you we went out actually to do a, do you remember that, that kid that was, he did, it's called the No Road to Run like Storm Area 51. They can't stop us all. Yeah. Tell me about that. Yeah, he went totally viral. So we went out and interviewed him. We actually met up with him. His name was Maddie Roberts. I haven't talked with him in years and nothing ever really came of it because of COVID, all the various parties that were involved. But we went out on behalf of our podcast and we interviewed him and we stated the little alien in and camped out in Rachel Nevada. And I tell you, I left there believing, you know, obviously because of the people, but believing more than ever that there was an alien presence. I mean, why would they safeguard it so heavily? You know, I mean, there's rumors, rumors that military has their private jets and things out there. Yeah. There was rumors that like they got like guns that pop out if people got far enough in. And I mean, they don't protect nothing with that kind of, you know, resolve.

So I don't know. But I also, you know, I always err on the side of like, I really don't know too much, but I mean, you have to believe like the analogy I like is that, you know, I don't know if you look at the galaxies and the universes, I mean, I think I don't remember if it was the galaxy, it was part of the universe or vice versa. But, you know, one planet is the equivalent of a grain of sand on the beach. You know, so if like, if you were to believe that only one grain of sand on the beach had life, I mean, that's pretty improbable on my opinion. That's true. Now I read recently that there was a giant area 51. He zoomed in and got a photo of a giant, which come on. We do have Photoshop and AI and all that. So who knows what's even going on. Yeah. That kind of stuff, especially in the day of AI. And like you said, in the age of AI and photos, I don't know if I believe that necessarily, but who knows? I mean, man, I have friends who served in the military who swear by, oh, what is the name?

That's the giant in Afghanistan, the caves of Afghanistan. They swear that that's the truth. And then I have other friends who are also military who swear upon Bigfoot. You know, one of the things I was talking about a friend years ago is I think one of the reasons, the more, well, some of the lighter, light, more lighthearted conspiracy theories, maybe not the deeper, darker ones. But I think it's just fun to believe in, right? Isn't it fun to think there's Bigfoot and Loch Dessmoncer? It's just, you know, with no proof. It's like, it's just kind of fun to think about. It is. It's interesting. I mean, I've been in the woods plenty of times. I've only seen alligators and, you know, little critters running around out there in Florida, bears, coyote. If I saw a Sasquatch, I don't know what I would do. What would you do if you saw Sasquatch get a selfie run? Would you run? I would. I guess I would have to like have that moment where we looked and looked into each other's eyes or, you know, like, it just gages reaction because hopefully he'd be just as scared

of me. But I don't know. I mean, I guess that begs the question. Yeah, is he mean or is he friendly? I mean, let's put it this way. If he does exist, he's probably on the friendlier side, right? Because you don't hear about Sasquatch attacking people you hear in the high. So I don't know who knows, but I'd probably be freaked out because isn't he like eight or nine feet tall? He's supposed to be really tall, right? Yeah, super tall. I don't know. Well, now I have another one for you. If you could choose either reading minds or seeing into the future, what would you choose? Oh, man, that's our good one because reading minds would almost make your current life more exciting and fun, but seeing it in the future could potentially elongate your life, right? Because you would like you would know like, oh, you know, on this day I go and get no car accident, right? So I don't go out or take another route or I mean, I think I'd want to see into the future. Yeah, I almost think that you could totally read minds even right now.

I mean, sometimes you know, you learn people's facial recognitions and things like that. I mean, I'd like to learn to read people's minds a little bit better, but I feel like I kind of have a good grasp on that a little bit. I mean, do you think that you do at all? A little bit. I feel like I have a heightened intuition. I can read people's vibe pretty, pretty well. I feel like if the more I think about it though, if you were able to read people's minds like truly like every little nook and cranny, gosh, man, that would almost be like a Pandora's box. You wouldn't want to open because I mean, human beings were naturally pretty dark, right? We've all got, you know, certain things that we keep hidden away, you know, obviously, but I feel like you'd probably lose faith in humanity pretty quick if you could read every single person's mind, right? Hi, me, you know, you know, the old saying like never meet your heroes. Could you imagine if you met your hero and then read their mind and then, you know, so I'd rather see into the future just because it's more positive, right? I think that's not a bad idea. I mean, let's face it too. When somebody kind of makes you angry, our normal thoughts, I don't think are like, oh,

that sweet thing blesses soul, you know, I mean. Yeah. So yeah, you do have a good point there. I mean, I try really hard to think about things before I say them, but I'm human. What about this? What about this? Would you like to time travel to the past or time travel to the future? Hmm. Wow, that's crazy. That's another good one. I mean, I'm trying to like, you know, with all of our positivity and mindset and manifestation, I'm trying not to live with regret and live in the past, but man, when it be cool to go back and undo a couple of things. I don't care what anyway. It says I had this another conversation with a friend years ago. I don't care what anyone says. Everyone's got one or two regrets. You know, those people, I have no regrets. I don't, I don't. Everyone has, you know, maybe you broke someone's heart or maybe you didn't spend enough time with a loved one that passed away. You, we all have a little bit of regrets. I mean, to varying degrees. But once again, I'd have to say just for the sake of positivity, let's, let's travel

to the future. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Lottery tickets, winning lotto numbers. Right. But then at the same time, if you go to the past and you switched something that you did and you made it better, then it would change the trajectory of the future. Right. And it would eliminate your already knowing everything that's going to happen, which is part of the element of surprise in your life. And you know, I mean, I think you're going to have to be able to do that. And it would happen, which is part of the element of surprise in your life, which is like, oh, wow, I didn't know this would ever happen. If I knew it, would it be exciting if I still knew it? Yeah. And then when, I do believe, you know, because back to the future, obviously tackled that the best, right? They were going forward and back. But I believe that if you did travel back in time, you would unknowingly change certain things in the present when you came back to the present. If that makes sense. Mm hmm. And yeah, you wouldn't want to mess with that. And I do believe everything happens for a reason, meaning somebody else's hardship or even

maybe death was meant to spawn the positive for someone else, right? So who are we to be that judge on what that looks like? So I had to go to the future. Yeah. The other good one though, man, to do both would be pretty cool. Yeah, it would. I mean, maybe we could just do this. I'll let you choose the future. I'll choose the past. And then we'll work together. And we'll start a business like Elon Musk and Trump, you know, some people are like, ooh, Elon Musk, he's a future. He's a time traveler. And I don't know if you knew this, but Baron Trump, there is a book called Something about Baron Trump. I think the adventures of Baron Trump. Yeah. And the 1800s, right? Yeah, it was from the 1800s, but it sounds so much like Baron Trump. It's crazy. If you haven't read it, you need to go do that. Anybody did did achieve time travel. You'd have to believe it's Elon, right? Just with his, yeah, I mean, figuring everything out and just the technological advancements

he's made. I mean, you know, like if it came out that he knew how to time travel, I mean, I would be shocked with the least surprised. There's a lot of people who are coming forward saying that they are either time travelers. They are people from the Galactic Federation, which I'm like, whoa, this is getting crazy. Which is like an alien ship that comes and makes peace. There's a lady, her name is Elizabeth April. And she's getting really popular on TikTok. And she says that she's a remote viewer. Like there's so many different rabbit holes right now. She can like, was it, what is that where you could travel in your mind? Kind of thing remote viewers. That what she means. She basically is saying that she's a fortune teller or she can go back and read people. So for example, she's like, okay, I went and I checked out Hayden Pantera's, I remote viewed her wife and what really happened to her.

And she gives her version of what she thinks happened to Hayden Pantera, which I think don't quote me on this. But I think that it did come out in the news that the girl had passed away from a fentanyl that was put in her oxycodine or something like that. Anyway, she was talking about that. She talks about a lot of current events as well as historical events, which are very interesting. And I've been watching her just to see what this girl's about because you look at her. First of all, she's gorgeous. Secondly, her speech and the way that she presents things are, it's so professional that you just are like, wow, okay, most people that I would think are kind of fruity. You know, you've seen some of the TikToks of people who are like, ooh, a fortune teller and they have like all these weird props behind them, some of them, like some of the women have shaved their heads completely bald and put like all this crazy makeup on.

But this girl Elizabeth April, she is just like the girl next door vibe. So it's a, she's a very interesting twist to my TikTok, I will say. Yeah, you've sent me some clips. They were interesting. She's sort of like some kind of unspoken appeal. You can't put your finger on it. Right. It's just so interesting. I guess because that the world is so crazy right now that people are exploring other explanations for some of the things that we're seeing, including the government stating, here, we're going to start this alien website. And I've had meetings in Washington, DC. One was more recently with a gentleman who has this amazing patriotic movement, but he completely believes that there are several different types of aliens. But then he gets down like this with major, major rabbit hole we won't go into today. But talking about how the aliens are actually demons and all this crazy stuff.

But then you start peeling the onion and you're like, is this that crazy or is there some truth? And so let's dig into that sometime on the show because it's bonkers to me. It's just so crazy. But okay, let's go to the next one, which is, would you rather teleport or would you like to be invisible? I'd have to say being visible. In reading comic books, I always thought that was one of the cool ones because I mean teleport is just a quicker way. I guess I should say teleport where to different time periods are just within the same time period. I mean, I think for me, when I think of teleport, I think, okay, I'm going to teleport to Hawaii and teleport to California or. Yeah, I feel like teleport is just a quick or a travel, but you know, which is cool, but I think the cooler thing would be to be invisible. I'd mix them up and I'd be like, wonder woman, I'd get that invisible jet.

Yeah, was it night crawler from X-Men could teleport? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Star Trek also, you could teleport. I would teleport in a harp eat as far as invisible. You know, did you know that the government had like our US government has invisible cloaks that they can put on our vehicles and things like that? So I would think that. I could. Yeah, yeah. And that's the way it doesn't alter the way like our eye like refracts light or the receives. Yeah. So yeah, that's, I've heard that. That's, I wouldn't be surprised. That doesn't even seem like that unfeasible today. No, it's not. It's true. I mean, that is definitely confirmable that they have that. Now, as far as if a person can wear something, I would guess maybe that I don't know, but the vehicle coverage average civilian could afford a club. I'm sure the cloaks probably for. Forty million or yeah, whatever. Yeah. That would be cool though. That would be cool.

Let's see. How about have unlimited money or unlimited free time? Well, wouldn't unlimited money give you unlimited free time? I would. Thanks. So because I'd be free. I would be free. But yeah, I mean, unlimited money would would allow you to at least experience free time from anything you didn't want to do. And then obviously when you pursue something or spend time doing something you love, it doesn't even feel like it's a lack of freedom. So yeah, it had to be money. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think I think that would be nice. I mean, not to be insensitive, but ask a homeless person. He's got nothing but free time. Ask him how no money is working. You know what I mean? Yeah. He's digging through the garbage cans to find food, which, you know, I'm not making light of that, but he has all the freedom and free time in the world. So I'm sure he would rather have, you know, money. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, would you rather have a no, I should say? Would you rather know the exact date that you will die or would you like to know exactly

how you will die? Ooh, maybe I feel like if you knew when you're going to die, it would alter the way you lived, right? Because no matter what, even if you're like, oh, well, I know I've got 20 years, you're still going to always be stressing about the, you know, I think I think one of the reasons that ironically lets people enjoy their life more is not knowing, but then also conversely can go the other way, whereas if you just assume you're going to live forever, then you don't have a sense of your own mortality. So you think you have all the time in the world, but I feel like if I knew the day I was going to die, it would just distress would compound until that date. So I'd rather maybe know how I died. And then maybe I could like, you know, I don't know, doing something specific, then I'll just avoid it or, but then again, I assume you can't. I couldn't avoid it, right? Yeah, you couldn't. Yeah, so I'd rather know how. I think so too, because just like cancer patients, you know, they may be told a certain date, and then they may live a while longer. So that's happened to family members that I know who had cancer, who they were given

a few months or a couple, you know, a couple of weeks, and then they lived a lot longer some of them. Yeah. But it was still really stressful because that they thought they were going to be dying, and then here we are, like here's another birthday. It wasn't supposed to live this long. Congratulations. But during that year, I'm sure it was stressful. Oh, yeah, must be very stressful. Actually, my father, who's visiting, is going through that right now. One of his friends is actively passing. Mm-hmm. Well, what's the past? Terminal. Yeah. He's terminal. He's got leukemia and a liver cancer that's starting to spread. So he's, I mean, maybe a month. Mm-hmm. You know, it's my death spent at time with him. My death's known him since they were 10 and he's 75. So yeah, 65 years. So, man. But, you know, I guess he's in decent spirits, but you know. Would you rather, and let me clarify to the audience, we're doing this so you get to know us because we are going to start talking about a few things that you're going to think.

Why have you transitioned, Patty, from talking about pro-America to some crazy topics? But the fact is, I am still extremely pro-America. It's still my number one thing on my list. But I do think- Are you definitely a patriot? Yeah. Yeah, I do think that- As I mind. Yes. Some of these topics, though, are important as Americans for us to actually discuss instead of continuously sweeping them under the rug, especially as we had through the rest of this year. And there will be, and mark my words, there will be more speaking and talking about aliens and you will think me later. Okay. So, moving forward, Brent, would you rather lose your phone for a year or lose your social media for five years? Oh, social media, for sure. Yeah. You don't make a lot of money and do you a lot of good with your phone, but social media I mean, a forced hiatus or purge of social media probably would be a good thing.

Although it would be, you know, you'd be chomping at the bit to get back because we're all just conditioned, but yeah, definitely the social media. Yeah, I think we would be chomping at the bit for a while, but I also think that we'll get used to having no phone and it- I think it's too great. I took three years off from Facebook from- was it 09 to 2012? And yeah, it was actually pretty good. Yeah. Facebook got its hold on me since I didn't really, but I mean, I'm more engaged with friends and various capacities than I was, but I mean, there was a time in 2009 where people like, you're not on Facebook or, you know, 2010 or whatever. And I'm like, no, it feels good. So. I can't wait for my space again because there's no algorithms. Oh, cool. Yeah, they're going to duplicate it and replicate it the same way. They're supposed to. Yeah, I hope so. Is the original guy getting involved or- Yeah, I heard that, but I don't know.

You know, let's see what it is. Why did it pitter away? Was it Facebook? Facebook. Yeah, oh, it was Zuckerberg. There's been a real clamoring for it to come back for a long time. So, oh, yeah, we're all tired of the censorship and the, you know, all the ads. I didn't even have on my space, but I knew people that did, but I liked when you- when you logged in your, your own music started playing, right? Yeah. Yeah, I love that. Because I'm not all about the music. Yeah. All right. So now this one's easy for me. And I think it's going to be easy for you, but I'm going to ask it. Would you rather be incredibly famous or completely anonymous, but insanely successful? I would be the second one for sure. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sometimes we attribute fame with success, but if you could be successful without the hardships of fame, most certainly. Oh, my gosh.

Yes. I can't tell you how I hate video. Video, I don't like it, but everybody's like, you have to have it. If you're doing radio, especially because people want to connect a face to your words. So, I switched and I did it. But honestly, still to this day, the radio is the way to go or podcasting because people are listening in a car and things like that. I only had one guy tell me that he bought a Roku TV just so he could watch it. But yeah, so I don't care if somebody sees my face or anything as long as I'm doing good behind the scenes, I am so happy about that. What's the longest, as long as you have the respect of your peers and loved ones and are feel fulfilled and whatever, whatever, obviously, success is different things to different people. But being famous, if you talk to people that are ultra famous, it's not all it's correct up to be. No. No privacy. You're under constant scrutiny. And without getting too crazy, look at Ed Sheeran, I bet you he wishes he was famous

right now. Right? Poor guys, regardless of what side you land on, I did feel a little bad for Ed because here's a guy that tried to be politically neutral and they are just like both sides are just crucifying him. It's really like I look online right now and I literally see both sides. Just that guy is just in the worst spot ever. So yeah, you know, I think it's really disgusting when other people tear each other down online. It's like we had talked about this before. It's very venomous and it tells so much about the person who's spitting out their garbage. It's like re it's like regurgitated. I don't know what like just puke to me. Yeah, a lot of really jealous, spiteful and envious people are the most hateful. You know, they're just they're just they blame everything and everyone else for where they're at and just, oh man, they're just like, I mean, you know, I don't care what side anybody lands on on any issue.

I mean, I was raised. You don't ever celebrate the death of someone. You know, right, right. People are not like, you know, we could use Charlie Kirk as an example, but it's just like, wow, man, like you're that's pretty freaking hardless because this person had a family, you know, even if I don't agree with people and I didn't agree with everything he said, you know, but like, it's like, oh man, like, yeah, the you're right. There's never never so much venom as today and social media, unfortunately, just feeds that fire because you get people that agree. It normally wouldn't have met and it just compounds. It's like point gas and a fire, but yeah, it's pretty, pretty disgusting. Would you rather remember every moment of your life or be able to erase any memory? I have to say erase every memory, every memory. I'm just any memory because, you know, obviously you and I, we've talked about this. We're all huge. One of the modalities that I really like is the EMDR where, you know, we all have unresolved

traumatic events. They call them touch-done moments that are governing our subconscious and yeah, if you could go through and cherry pick, I mean, obviously, I would piggyback that and say be able to identify those memories to erase them. Yeah, that would be good. But I don't know if I actually need more. I think about, I don't know if you would rather erase them or reprocess them and then have them mean something else to you, but, you know, I got to change my answer because I just kind of talked that out. I would say go back and remember everything. That would be kind of cool because it's fun. You ever reminisce with old high school friends and you remember a piece of the story and then it reminds them and then they, and it's between the two of you, you piece together like 70% whereas each one of you might have remembered five. My friend and I, Ross, we do that all the time and we're like, we got to remember right this down, you know, because we're forgetting, you know, so yeah, I'd rather remember everything because I think to erase things would be to erase your past and I don't think that's healthy.

I agree. And sometimes like, especially if you've witnessed something traumatic, it could be used later to help other people. Right. That's one of the biggest reasons I love recording podcasts is because we do talk about some of the hard things so that we can process them. But in the meantime, it helps other people process them as well. Right. So we're already up on time. Wow. I know. I know. It was a great show, Brent. I appreciate you and to the listeners out there, thanks again for listening. We're going to have another couple of shows like this where we're just kind of telling our baseline. So these are baseline shows. Do you get to know Brent a little bit better? Some of you been listening to me for a long time, but new, newer listeners through Brushwood Media Network. Some of you have just joined me more recently. So thank you. And right into the network, because I'm kind of curious where you are listening from.

Are you listening on the Brushwood Media Network? Are you listening on I Heart Radio? Maybe you're listening to the archives on podcast platforms. We are radio first. I want to know what station are you in Tampa, DC, California, Washington state. Where are you? We have 17 states tuning in and over 200 streaming devices. So write us. Let us know. And also, don't forget about your vision board because we will talk about that again in the near future. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks everyone. You've been listening to the Vault expert, broadcasting strength, truth and perspective from inside the Vault. If you're ready to go deeper, step inside at www.theVault.expert and join the forum. A quiet space for real connection away from the noise of social media. You can also follow along on TikTok, Facebook and Instagram at the Vault expert.

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