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6:10Yes. We're going to talk about this because I want it. I might, I mean, you could change my mind. I mean, we can talk about it, but I feel like this, we'll get, once we get to it, we'll talk about it. But I was like, you know, you talk a big game, but then where's it come? You're not actually playing it. I know what you're talking about. Okay, I do, I do know what you're talking about, but we'll, we'll get there. And, and I think that you might change my mind on this. I think I can do it. I think I can do it. That's what conversations are for. Yeah. So it starts out where Heather is designing her new apartment. We're talking champagne tunnel, pool table, multiple TVs. I'm sorry, never in my life had I ever seen an overhead projector being used for four plans. I, well, when you're in that, Democrat, I mean, like, what do you call it? When you're in that, when you're in that price range, I guess they better have something.

7:14They, I would think, I mean, I wish Paul was around. I would ask him, he's upstairs, but yeah, I mean, I didn't know that that even existed. Oh, of course. But I want to, well, I really want, because he does very, very, very high end construction. Yeah. I want to know what he thinks. I want his opinion on this. Yeah. So we, we see this like over the top, they're, I don't, I don't mind that fancy pants talks this way. At this point, I've just kind of gotten used to it. But it's also like, I'm a little bit confused how she's always like, Terry doesn't have any idea about money. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Terry might, I know doctors don't typically handle that part of their life. They don't handle the admin, the business part of it. A lot of doctors don't even know where their checkbook is. I can attest to that.

8:15Yeah. I've worked in doctors' offices. I've known doctors. I know a lot of doctors. And they are one way they're like into their surgery. But there's a few that weren't to business before they became doctors. They're the people that know their, their finances and stuff. Yeah. But either way, it's, it looks pretty insane. It looks like I never complains about what she's spending, which no baffles the hell out of me. No, I mean, it looks like it's, it's, I mean, and also I have to be honest, I would I would not have a problem living in those places. I, I, when she said I don't ever need to see a piece of grass again. Oh, you know, the, I just got back from, I was in in Montecito yesterday. And I went on a brand trip with Lori Alley. It was amazing, by the way.

9:15And I stayed at the Miramar. Oh, I love it there. My Uber driver said he's like, we were passing where all the houses burnt down and it's on the ocean when we were on a way to the airport. And he's like, look at what people spend on these homes. But you look out, you look out the window and the first time you look, it's amazing. Second time, third time, after you see it so many times, it becomes the same thing. Yeah. So yeah, you do want to see something different, whatever it is, no matter how long you live in it or how great it is. Yeah. So it's like, I get it. And you know what? Then everything's kind of done. They don't have to do so much maintenance, like living in a ginormous house like they did before. There was always things probably breaking, having to put things together. Like, I wouldn't mind living that life. No, who would?

10:17Okay. So then we also get to Carmella talking with her kids about Vicki. Carmella's daughter Faith mocks the face that Vicki makes. Carmella says Vicki has to know her name because she's constantly talking about her. Okay. This is another, I don't know if you're going to agree with this hot tap. Let's hear it. Okay. If we want kids to be off limits, why don't we really film with them and have them making fun of housewives? This has been a problem in my show in the past with Gia. When Gia got involved with things and they were like, she's not an adult. She wasn't a age, I think, at the time, even, maybe slightly. But they were like, I'm not going to fight with a kid. Yeah. I'm not going to do it.

11:19So I agree with you on that. Like it was a little bit strange to me, the whole conversation because like, I mean, you can tell she's annoyed. She's frustrated, but like, I kind of feel like if you want your kids to be off limits, don't talk to your kids about your drama. Let them gossip and say something about another housewife because there will be a housewife who is going to stay, who is not going to care that it's a kid and say, well, if you don't say that about me, because now I'm going to say this about you, you know what I mean? So I mean, but I do appreciate the banter in the house. I do like them. I think they're great kids. No matter if that's, I said that. And Gina is visiting Shannon, who's prepping for her couple's lieu out despite not inviting her romantic interest for herself. Hold on, I'm confused. Is there a romantic interest for herself? What is she supposed to rent it?

12:20Go on hinge. Do like the rest of us figure it out. I think that Shannon needs to get a lot of things situated in her life before she gets in another relationship. I think it's good that she's not in a relationship right now to be honest. She's very timid. She's very vulnerable from what I can see. And she needs to straighten out her finances, her life. I feel like her life's a big frittata. Like a bunch of stuff is thrown all over the place and she's just, she's not being mean though. Shannon is being so sweet to see. Am I wrong? No, I agree with you. I think Shannon's being nice to see. I think Shannon is doing the best that she can. I feel bad for her at the same time. Yeah, I agree. I'm the same way. But then I feel like Shannon tells Gina that Vicki said Danny is raising Carmella's kids. And what about how Gina's like, I'm telling her that, what did you think Gina was going

13:25to say when you told her, like, what did you think? Listen, that, she passed the buck. She was set in front of her. And Shannon, it was set in front of Shannon. She either had to repeat it or pass the torch. That's the way this business goes. So she passed the torch by accident. I mean, I do like that Gina is kind of the season's bone collector. She is. She is. So she started off the season started off by her best friend repeating something she said. So I feel like now she's just going ham. She's like, oh, really? Yeah. Let's go. Yeah, she's like, I'll just go back and, you know what, we got to get this going. I've got a wedding to pay for. She's got a wedding like 17 kids, a boyfriend with big balls. I don't want to hear about the big balls anymore.

14:26Let's, I mean, listen, I want to know if that means that they're like big and tight or they're like long and hanging. Gravity wins. Even look at big boobs. They, they hang. They sag. I know. Mine are fake and they're still a little bit saggy these days. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's time for everyone to know. You will not hear a New Jersey housewife. An old New Jersey housewife. It's just now what we do. We don't talk about our, our significant others body parts. No, you guys don't do that, but also do, um, would any of your guys get boat talks and their balls? Why did he get boat talks in his balls? No, some people do that. Never heard of that stop. What's that supposed to do? Oh, yeah. There's boat talks. Major balls that's not going to work. It's called square talks. Stop. Stop. You can't look for your people in the world.

15:28I saw it on the valley figures. But why? Like, listen, it does not raise weight. It's a muscle. It like retracts the muscle. So it's your scrotum muscle. They want their balls to hang lower. Why? Why would anybody want their ball? Can bang against the girl's badge? Yeah, I figured no. Yeah, so it can slap against the girl. I'm more or the guy. Stop it. That's crazy. That's how you get an inner and an outer. Oh, at the same time. I can't breathe. Wait. Where am I then? I've been such a good girl. I've been so, how come I feel like a jerk that I don't know this?

16:30I mean, as Pauli's hearing us talk, he's making an appointment right now. No, that's easy to me. I mean, that's where the saying balls deep comes from. Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. Yeah, balls deep. I don't know. I just don't get it. I don't get it. Like, they're not bowling balls. I mean, how hard could they hit? Give me a break. You never felt like them just kind of go. I, you know, I'm sure I have. By the way, that's craziness. Yeah, crazy. You're welcome. You know, I do what I can. I try to give back. Good friend. Um, but, you know, we know that this is going to go further because the fact that when

17:36Shannon tells Gina this, um, that Vicki said that Danny is raising Carmell as kids, we know it should go somewhere major. And this is where we'll get back to my point later because it doesn't actually go there. But then, you know what, Tamer's getting another good snippet because we get Tamer's granddaughter Ava is turning 11. So she's throwing a party and Ryan. It will be an attendance. Um, at one point, Ryan Covenant, Sophia's tattoos giving us flashbacks to when Tamer saw his giant side and nugget lip tattoo causing her. I feel as a mother reaction. I forgot about the one that said nugget on the lip. I have to say I, I, I, I, I overreact at things like that as well. Yeah, I do. I don't like it. Uh, it bothers me and I don't have tattoos, but I tell my kids not to, my son wouldn't

18:40get a Gabby has a couple on her, one on her ankle. And I, you know, I just, it's a lot. So today's Gabby's birthday, happy birthday, Gabby. Oh, happy birthday, Gabby. I know you listen to us. So how old is she turning 31? Oh my gosh. She asked me what time she was born. I'm like, I'm walking out. I have to put that into my, um, like, I have to put that into my, um, you know, on your phone where you put people's contacts information. It says like my kids birthday. It's in then what time they were born because there's no heck. I remember that shit. I love when I have these conversations with women and God bless the women who they're like at nine, 54, I went in and then my water broke at 10. Oh, two. And I'm like, I don't even remember their back hole. I don't remember. I can't remember any of it. I mean, I still can, I mean, the fact that I can barely remember my own freaking name,

19:42like let's be honest, it's, we're not going to be breaking down the time. We're trying to do a birthday. Yeah. So I mean, I, I can say that I do remember only one time my water broke before going into the hospital. And it was a doozy of a satch. Yeah. So listen, here, you know what, Vicki, you could call us shiphomes that we don't know when our kids were born. If you want to call us, shed moms, put us in the Carmella Coward category. Yeah, go ahead and zip us right into there. Then I thought this was a sweet moment. Tamar Giff's Ava, a Gucci purse, the first designer bag she could ever afford. Was it the first, was it her first bag that she bought or was it a new, a different one? I think it's the first bag that she bought. She keeps her things nice. Yeah, she keeps herself nice, kept it nice. Ava's so sweet.

20:43Ava's so sweet. And then it made me kind of emotional though when they were walking past the family portrait. And Tamar gets emotional about the fact that Sydney has never met Ava. Yeah, that's, that's very, very sad, very sad. I think these are the type of scenes we've been missing from Tamar that give us more of a complete picture of who she is. Well, this is her season for that. Yeah, like they're showing us way more family. They're utilizing her. Yes. I mean, they needed to 100%. She's always got in the one who's like bringing the drama and, you know, doing this or that I love this season for Tamar. Like they're making her, they're showing us the Tamar that we know. This Tamar that we know exactly exactly what I was going to say. And it doesn't, it's not like a, you know, sometimes it feels fake. It doesn't feel fake here. It's not fake because it's really her. And here's the other thing.

21:44She's never looked so pretty. Oh my gosh, she looks gorgeous. That's an all are her like insane. I know she looks gorgeous. And then I think that you just see how well the family is getting along. Yeah. And this is what we love to see. We've seen her family through everything. We've seen her as a mother go through everything. And she's had really hard times. And I'll tell you, she's always been transparent. Like she puts it out there so she doesn't have, I feel like Tamar doesn't have a lot of patience for the ones that don't. Yeah. Because she does everything like she's going to show you the good, the bad and the ugly. Yeah. Every single time. And yeah, of course, sometimes it's going to get messy. But I feel like the season they're allowing her to just be herself. And but I do think some of the other girls need to pick up some more of the slack then. Well, certainly there has been some misopportunities.

22:47Yeah, there definitely has been. So Vicki Shannon and Shannon's daughter Sophie go shopping for new bras for Shannon. This is also another thing I don't necessarily need to hear nor see nor understand. When one boob is got padding in it and the other boob doesn't like what? What is happening here? The same reason I say to you, Shannon needs a little bit of help getting her stuff together, herself together. She's all over the place. Because even when she's trying on the brush, she still has like the spanks suspenders on. Did you notice that? Yeah. So the spanks is too constructing to me. I have this new like sensory type of thing where I can't have tight things holding me in. Plus, I don't think they hold in. I think it just makes it all spread out more. I never look better in spanks. I my ass looks flatter with spanks on, but I need it to smooth me out.

23:52Now Shannon doesn't have, she's got nice legs. Yeah, she does. Well, then Vicki asks Shannon's daughter if she uses a vibrator when the she immediately says yes, Shannon shuts down the conversation. I feel like you would shut down this conversation too. Yeah, so one time Gabri was getting headaches and Margaret asked her if she was on birth control, I shut down the conversation. I started screaming and ran out of the room. I do not. I'm like, how dare you, Gabrielle, don't talk like that in front of me. Like it was so bad. I'm so bad. I've never had a sex talk with my children. That's what Fizzad is for and health class. And I don't want to know about it. I don't ever want to. We couldn't be more opposite in this way. I can't. I can't even, I cannot think about such a thing. Oh God, it's so bad. But this is also like kind of a hypocritical thing when it comes to Vicki. I'm confused how Vicki can go from. I can't talk about sex on camera with my killby mad to asking somebody's daughter if she's

24:55using a vibrator. That is that is really hypocritical. Yeah, like what brought that up? I watched it, but I because they talked about the gift and they said the gift was whatever the purse was with a vibrator in it and the daughter said, that's a great gift. Yeah. And Vicki is like, do you use a vibrator? And she's like, yeah, of course. That's why she opened up the conversation to that. That was fair. That was a fair question. But also the fact that she doesn't think she may not. I mean, P.S., your vibrator arrived and I have no idea how to use it. I tried. Oh, it's it. Yeah. I was the best as I've left it downstairs for a while because like, you know, I keep all this stuff that I have to do paid posts on. What did you get the avocado or the rest of raspberry? You said, doctor said I sent back the uterus. Otherwise, I would show you.

25:56Dr. G. Lowl showed you how to use it. She said, it's such a conversation that women have to get so familiar, not feel shame with their bodies. The girls on the show, I gave it out to them. You'll see. They wore it out. They had it behind it and buy it again. So they know how to use it. I need to figure out how to use it because I've never used this kind. But the best part is I seriously like down in my downstairs room, when you walk in, it's like all the stuff I have paid post for. So I just assumed this item was a paid post. If you read it or if my kids read it, it clearly says like raspberry, my, oh, you got the raspberry. So I think the girls like the avocado better, but anyway, they're I haven't you, I didn't use it yet. So. All right. Well, I'm going to stay tuned, try to figure it out a little bit better and then I'll let

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35:21Then it shannons luau and after everybody does the saddest, the limbo I can't. That limbo was like five foot. That was like a five foot high limbo. I didn't even need to bend over. I just cruise right under. First of all, by the way, before we get to this party, I can't stand how good Emily looks. It's upsetting. It's upsetting me because I'm such a disaster right now. I cannot stand. I'm so happy for her, but it's really hard for me. It's really, really rough for me. And I want to kill her because as if I don't have enough bad habits, she posted the other day, her sweet treat after the gym. It was a diet doctor pepper with protein cream in it. Oh, I saw that. Well, I drank it. I got it. It was so good. It was.

36:22What are you guys more than now? What are you guys more than now? What is more? Oh, why? Because Mormons make all these like sodas like these swig where all they do is they do like creamy, they're called dirty sodas. Oh, that's a Mormon thing? Yeah, it's a Mormon thing because they can't drink alcohol. Emily's husband is Mormon. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, Mormon wives made swig famous, but I've been to a swig and I had to wait in a really long line for a fricking soda with a little creamer in it. Do it yourself. I did it on the plane. And the and the shortest was like, are we clear? This is what you're asking me for a cream for your soda? I was like, yeah, that's what I asked. Yeah. So the word swig, I don't know, but my dad used to say you want to swig like it would mean to set. It means a set. Yeah, I've known that word my whole life. But swig is the brand.

37:24Swig is the brand. Well, my dad, that's what he used to say. Like if you had a soda, you want to swig. But I love a dirty soda is the concept and it's their little like, they have all of their like little soda machines inside of their house where they mix and match. And that's what they do instead of having a glass of champagne. I've never watched this show and I don't want to even see that. It do not tempt yourself. And that's why I've never done drugs. I've never had like terrible sex things because I might like it. I've stayed away from, I know there's a part of me. So I'm telling you now I'm addicted to the swig. Do not try it. You're going to like it too much. I know, I feel like I can't try it. I am going to like it. And it's already hard enough for me to hold in my herbs as I'm on my second diet coke. I'm warning everyone, don't try something you'll like it too much.

38:25Oh my God. I have to tell you something funny that happened. So the other day I go on it hasn't come out yet, but I go on Jenny McCarthy's podcast. And before I go in, she's there like, please don't wear any perfume or fragrance. It like does she's allergic to it or whatever it may be. And I'm like, okay, so with Tamara, I'm not allowed to breathe or herb. And then now Jenny. I can't wear any. I can't wear any. And now you can't wear. You have very temperamental friends. I can't wear the odorant. You know what, Daddy, you come by me. You can do whatever you want. You can do whatever you can wear perfume. I don't care. I'm not at these girls over there. They're like really temperamental. Oh my God. I mean, but it was it was pretty funny when I was there. There was this guy and he's like this famous YouTuber. And he pulls in and he's like drives by and it's Jenny's.

39:28Her studio is set up in a house, but it's not the house she lives in. But this guy comes up and he's like super hot, probably like early 20s and he goes, hey, just because Jenny walked out to get me. And there's our publicist and it's like five of us standing there and he goes, hey, I just want to apologize about last night. And we're all look, we all look really confused. And he was like, I think I was really drunken and asshole to all you guys. And we were like, what none of us live here to like don't drink and drive. Three like what the hell? A lot of weird stuff goes on over there. A lot of weird stuff. Um, funny. Yeah, it was pretty funny. But then we're at Shannon's Lou out and everybody does the sat, you know, we already talked about this. Everybody does the saddest limbo. Then Gina tells Carmella what Vicki said about Danny raising her kids. And Carmella's confession, she says, I hope she has some reputable life insurance because I'm about to drop kick an OG. Well, she didn't drop kick.

40:29Oh, God's an Italian. That means sick. She dropped nothing. Nothing. She sat there and talked to Danny about it on the side. Danny seems like a nice guy that like, I mean, I just, he's like, why would and and tamers like, did you say that to her? And he's like, why would I say it's not true? And you know, I'm getting so the vibes for a long time now ever since that dinner that she's had the X for him long before she broke up with him. I'm just, I think she's just done with him. But she does spend her time talking to him instead of getting involved in the drama which she's claimed she was really going to blow up on Vicki for. Did they edit it out? Did we miss it? I mean, no way. They know if she would have stood up and like, you know, came forward. I think we would have seen a little bit of the drama, but we saw none of it. It kind of seemed like the women were all catering to Vicki. So in Gina's confessional, so we go through this whole thing.

41:31Let's, let's first talk about what actually happened. So here's tamers little tidbit. Tamer had to prompt it because nobody was really doing anything with it. And his, his tamer opened her mouth. They paned to Shannon really quickly. Did you see Shannon's face? She's like, oh, fuck. Yeah, yeah, she was like, she's... Tamer might be good this season. She might be like having her little angel wings on, but she still tamer touched. And she's a job done. So they pan over to Shannon. She's like, here we go. And she knows what she did wrong. Shannon knows what she did wrong. But why wasn't Gina bringing it up since Gina's the one that mentioned it to her, but actually it was Carmella's job to bring it up as far as I'm concerned. So I mean, here's the thing. This is the part that makes it a little shifty. So we've got Carmella all worked up about this supposedly. As she should be. As she should be. But then they're sitting at the dinner and Gina's already shared the information.

42:32And then somebody asks, Carmella, how are you and Vicki? And she's like, we're fine. And that's when Tamer had to step in and be like, no, you're not fine. So apparently somebody said to Carmella, are you and Vicki good? And she said, oh, we're fine. And that's when Tamer said, felt the need to bring it up. Tamer just didn't bring it up out of nowhere. Yeah. She said, she's solely, solely said it because she's like, that's not what you were saying. But we didn't see that part, but we know that that happened. Yeah, we know that happened. So Tamer did that because Carmella wasn't going to do anything about it. But Carmella still didn't do anything about it. No. We're sitting there talking shit about Vicki in the corner with Janna does not count. So like she talked a big game, like she was going to come in hot, like she was going to

43:32kick. If we say in New Jersey, we're going to drop kick you, you're getting dropped kick. Yeah, like it's coming. You're actually getting dropped. You're not going to just sit in the corner and be a mute. Yeah, no. Like even if we know karate or not, you are. You're going to, you're going to feel it. You're going to, you're going to get harder than you hit us. And that's most housewives, right? Yeah. So, so having said that, yes, that is where Carmella falls sort. She doesn't react to the extent of she should buy something so damn it. Like you could say a lot of things to me that don't really phase me. But if you're going to attack like nobody should be okay when somebody's talking about the way you raise your kids, who's great. And it's the second time, right? It's not the first time. So that is even more of a reason to blow up. Like you just got carte blanche. That is your ticket to the next season.

44:34You just got your ticket to the next season. Like have the conversation be like Vicki, listen, I understand that you're going through a tough time or whatever it may be. But the fact that you would say this behind my back shows the kind of person you are, that's all she would have needed to say. You know what? Um, that's, I would have said a lot more. Like, even if she would have said that, but she just coward in the back. That's where I'm saying Carmella needs to amp it up if she wants to be a good housewife. And Vicki's like, don't talk to me like that. And Carmella's like, I just said, no, you know Carmella, stop acting like you're going to have a fight. Yeah. Not acting like you don't have a temper. We already know what her situation is with Danny. And yet she's still feeling the need to just huddle up next to him and kind of have this awkward conversation the entire time. I didn't feel like I felt like I just feel like such a disconnect with them. I feel like he's into her.

45:34She's not into him at this point. And am I losing my mind? It was Ryan not there. Ryan was there. He walked in with a non Hawaiian shirt. It looked like a flowers like, you know, the life is the. Oh, Daisy's. Yeah, like, like, yeah, the life is like that clothing like, what is it? Life is good or something with that? That's what Ryan was there. What do you mean? I don't know. I just completely like, I feel like he's such him and Jen are such not a part of it that I'm just forgetting about them. So it was funny because getting back to this now, Tamara has her little nugget here where she brings everything to the surface. Vicki's face and neck gets so red. Yeah, that's her tail. She's like roll the tape. Well, okay. So now even Shannon says, you said it. And why is she not saying, and here's another thing with Vicki and Shannon. It's time for now. Vicki to say, why are you repeating that?

46:35What I said, Heather could have repeated it. It was set to Heather. Yeah. Why was it Shannon that brought it back up? Why was it that? Because I think Shannon is frustrated by what happened on that trip. With the girls going home? Yeah, with the girls going home, I think, I know why I think she's upset with how Vicki handled the trip. Shannon is fine. But here's the other thing. So now that that die false short, which I'm surprised the producers weren't jumping in on that being like, I know this is not how we make a show. And then what happens is now we get the girls talking to each other regarding what happened down by Vicki. And then now this is where Vicki knows she's got her back up against the wall. She's caught up in what she said and the way things happened. And now she goes into I'm acting like this for this reason. And then like Gina says in her confessional, how does she master manipulate everybody to

47:41now look at her as the victim? Because that's exactly what she did. This is exactly what she did. And it's, you know what, it's exactly what she did online yesterday too when she showed her knee wrapped up. And it was an instant story picture. And it just said preparing for the reunion. Like now we know she had the surgery. So like no one's dumb. We know what she's doing. Right. So smart, smart thing to do. Never an acknowledgement. There was no one. I'm sorry. No, there was. I take that back. She did say if I said something to her, you I apologize. This is the second time. And it wasn't like a big span of time where it didn't happen. The second time very close to the first time where Carmella should have still been mad about the first time. Right. So now you pile that on how is Carmella Carmella? If you like being a housewife, you need to get down in dirty.

48:45I come out. You need to and especially if you're claiming you're going to prior, it's one thing if she didn't make a big deal about it before. But she was like, I'm fucking pissed. I'm pissed. And then what about hold on, what was the line that she said? Everybody has an expiration date. I mean, that was a pretty good line. So Emily approaches Heather and says she truly wants them to be friends. Heather questions this saying that in Los Alivos, Gina told her that Emily is annoyed by her after Emily compliments Heather a bunch. And like it's almost kind of crying, right? I look up to you as a mother. I don't think I tell you that enough. Here, first of all, let's talk about the fact that I did not overlook the fact that Emily said, well, it was repeated because Gina still mad at me for what I, because I repeated to Carmella, what she said about her. And then she's like, now Gina and I are even. Yeah, she's like, Gina, that's not friends.

49:48No. I don't talk. That's like not what friends do. You know, just because somebody did something you wouldn't have done doesn't mean you turn around and do it also. Yeah, I don't think so either. But during this whole conversation, like Emily is like giving her a compliment salad, like just over the top, how she wants to make a wild night out. The only thing I can think is Heather Dubrow loves compliments almost as much as she loves champagne. I believe that. Like, and if there's any sort of compliment, if there's any sort of compliments towards Heather, she'll just make up for it and talk about herself and compliment herself. Anyway, she doesn't, she's in the much. Okay, if you're, if you're not going to do it, I'll do it. Yeah. Or take it with compliments. Yeah. So, but this, this didn't feel like an authentic real conversation to me. You didn't think so. No, I didn't think Emily was like on the verge of tears because of how she kept.

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59:11I can't. We got over here. Try to do that over here. You guys grew up in that shit. Like I just end of my head now. I can't just anybody. I always looked up to you as a mother. And the fact that she wasn't like doing that, but it was close. It was her voice was shaking. It was. She was shaking. Who at this age, as a grown-ass woman, makes believe they're crying? That is my point. I want to pull you're here. I don't even like when you're crying for real. Yeah. And also, we know you're not crying. We know you don't give two shit. And then she also is on watch what happens live. And she says that there's a lot more that Heather actually said about Carmella that we're going to find out at the reunion. Do you now? I want to know what it is now. I'm making calls. And you're going to be better at the bottom of this tattie. Do your thing. We got to figure things out. I want to know before the reunion.

1:00:12But yes, so somebody that you actually will cry over when you're apologizing to them doesn't mean that you go and watch what happens live and start fighting with them on the internet. So you're right. Yeah. So it's all bullshit. The internet is not my age showing. That's not what we call it these days. Social media. The internet. The interwebs. I'm so embarrassing. I'm embarrassed. Let me get out of my Dell computer and let's look up things. I bet with my AOL account that I still have. What's your AOL account name? Dcat 1228 at AOL. Cheeky 330 at AOL.com. There you go, girl. You know, that's the most secure account somebody told me. By the way, you realize that Kyle still uses an AOL account. Like I emailed her to her AOL account. It's for her. Like, isn't AOL going to go out of business at some point? To be clear. Oh, clearly not because like I think there was a Russian spy on on Dama's Instagram saying

1:01:18that that is the most secure account there is. Why do we quit it? Why do we get tricked? But then we're back to Vicki denying and saying that she rolled the tape back. And then Carmella says they're both new this year. And Vicki, this was a good line. I mean, it's not like we're both not new this year. And then that like horns came out of Vicki and she's like, she's like, but the OG 20 years card and Carmella goes everything has an expiration. And that's when Vicki can barely even handle it. She doesn't even know what to say. She just makes a noise. She's like, I feel like maybe it would have landed a little bit better if we didn't see it in the teaser already. Right. Well, you can always tell when there's a rehearsed line. Yeah. I don't like rehearsed lines.

1:02:18They always show rehearsed. I'm sorry. Yeah, they show rehearsed. I felt also there's something we haven't talked about, but it happened earlier on in this episode and it happened two times and it involves Gina. And is there anything that Gina did to you did during her confessionals that were to do out other than talk about the balls? I can't get past the balls. Two times she went. What? Why are you winking at the camera and like throwing up fingers right now? Like two different times she told a joke and then like we didn't know it was a joke. She had to go. I was like, Gina, I need to never see you do that again. I need to just stop doing it, whether it's about his balls or whatever else. Tell you not to be a corn ball. You know, friends will say don't ever make that face again. Don't say don't wear that. But she did happen to mention speaking of since you're a real friend to Gina, she said

1:03:20real friends will tell you when you're wrong. Gina, we're starting here. Don't ever do that again. Gina, don't ever wink at the camera as if it's you're winking straight to the audience because we know you're just winking to like Sally Ann or someone and I need it to not happen to the camera. Yeah. So let's get to the coconut thing, please because honestly, I'm so disappointed with now. Now you've totally turned me on this episode when I was like, oh, I love the banter. Now I'm mad at everyone. So he's not sorry to. I'm pissed off at Emily making believe that she was crying. I'm pissed off and then sitting across from her and saying, yeah, you're not on my target just tonight. Like you get. Well, what about how does then Tamron goes to Shannon for her side of the Kenta story, but the conversation quickly becomes how Vicki is wanting an apology. Jen and Emma have to have in to talk about it. Yeah.

1:04:20I mean, like Jen and Emily express they never intended to hurt Vicki. I'm like, why are they apologizing now? What is happening? They weren't going to and then they did in three minutes. And then we find out that Mike wound up leaving at five o'clock in the morning after they everyone left. And then she fell abandoned by the M and Mike. And she has abandonment issues from her mother. And again, I will reiterate I did rewatch what when she got the call about her mom. It was like horrible. Me and my mom were like choked up watching it because I was trying to explain to my mom who she was and I pulled up the clip. But yeah, I mean, I mean, yes, there's a part that's heartbreaking saying she will never feel secure in any relationship again. I want to say, you know what? Do you think I feel really fucking secure every day? Honestly, I'm just going to say you want to talk about abandonment, Vicki? We all have exists.

1:05:21Like let's let's deep down and there's a reason why we all became housewives because there's some part of fucked up with all of us. We need some sort of external attention and we don't know why. Because we're all a mess with big issues because if we were normal, would we be doing this Vicki? No, we can't. We can't use things that have hurt us in our life for excuses for bad behavior. We can't because you'll never evolve. Sorry. Why did Emily and Jen like honestly sucking their buttholes and just not say anything at this point? Do you think and I'm just going to throw this out there and forgive me if I am wrong and forgive me if no one else? Do you think that that housewives are so afraid when somebody brings up a specific issue that they had because of a traumatic experience in their life?

1:06:22They are afraid to fight with that person in that moment of backlash from the fans. Well, I mean, I can't agree with that if it was something that happened this year. Right. But it's not. It's something that happened quite a long time ago, correct? Yes, of course. So do you think that sometimes in our housewife world, we are so afraid of the storm and throwing core of the social media world that people back down from what we normally would have ripped her face off for? I don't actually even think it was because of that. I think that Vicki did such a good job of just like turning it back on them. Vicki's getting emotional. She's in, feels like she's always been abandoned. The girls are hugging her. She just did a switching bait right there. Easy. That was easy for her.

1:07:24Which is why a father's name when people say Vicki doesn't know what she's doing. She knows exactly what she's doing. Vicki knows what she's doing. Yes. But she goes, I got left and nobody said goodbye to me and I lost my mom. And listen, rightfully so, her mom died suddenly. She spoke to her before that. A lot of people have done this. She's had two relationships where they just up and have left with no conversations. Okay. So you're guarded. We all are. I get that. I am open and guarded at the same time. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, I don't know what to say at this point. I think that there was a lot of lost opportunity for scenes that could have been great. I think so too. And who actually thought had chemistry Shannon and her guy. Oh, they were adorable together. I thought they were cute.

1:08:24I was like, what's the problem here? I don't know how they got the coconut up. Well, clearly, Tamar and Eddie, they've been practicing between the dog barking and the sexy scene with the surf and sand. They're from some competitive that she would not lose. That's number one. I mean, I think I played a game like that, but was a balloon, not with a coconut. Well, it looked really hard. However, I loved the chemistry during this game with Shannon and her friend, which they dated at one time. They kissed at one time. They're very cute together. I, I wasn't mad at that. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't have the coke can. So we like him. We like this guy. Yeah. Like, I mean, we like him. We're good with them. The, you know, the coconut game is some of them are really bad at it. And I also felt like there was a moment when Shane walked in. I should get into it. Oh, you're doing work because they didn't want to touch each other.

1:09:28She did not want him touching her body in any capacity. She also couldn't do the limbo if you noticed. I think his ear can heal her too high. I just want to say like she's over him, like, like a girl who's already onto somebody else. I know. Do you think there's just going to be a new guy? That's the vibe I'm getting. She's really over him. He warned him. She was going to do it. Yeah. So she just had to get through this season and then who knows? But then as Vicki is embraced by Tamer Shannon and Emily and Heather, Carmella questions to Jane and Gina how Vicki is the victim. Hey, Carmella, if you're going to say it, get up and say it to everybody with your chest. Yeah. Got it really. Like, yeah, like, don't be whispering it to those two. But here's the thing. Gina, if you are acknowledging in that moment, because sometimes it takes me like a little bit of time to like acknowledge what's going on, Gina, if you're acknowledging in that

1:10:28moment, what Vicki's doing, why don't you stand up on that table and say, Hey, Vicki, I just saw what you did. Yeah. You wait for your confessional when nobody's around six months later to do it. Yeah. And honestly, this is what Carmella just said. So both of them, I thought, weren't fault there. Okay. Well, they're in the time out box. They better make up. They better blow it out their ass at the reunion. They better blow it out their ass at the reunion. I also, I mean, I liked this episode. I thought it was better than last week's. I thought it was interesting. I think next week is the start of the Vienna party, which I am going to be at, which didn't show me in the trailer, which I was like, fuckers. They really should have. You know what? I don't even know what I was doing, but they should have shown me in the trailer. Like how rude. You mean you didn't know what you were doing? I want to know why Alexa was crying out. Like, I'm a part of that.

1:11:30I cannot wait. More than I want to watch next week, I want to hear all the behind the scenes because we don't usually get this. Yeah. You're going to give us, and you promised us, when you could talk about it, you were going to tell us everything. And it's so good. It's so good. It's better. Not forget one detail. I want everything written down. And I want you coming here prepared to give us all the dirt next week. I will give you every little crumb. Once I see what they show, I'm going to say exactly what went down. But you guys are going to be bummed because I'm gone next week. We are doubling down the following week on Orange County. I got to wait two weeks. Yes. Why? Because I'm going to slid nationals. Can't do it from there? No. Dolores is like, Teddy, just send me your notes. I'll recap it by myself. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do this one without you.

1:12:31Just this one. Just saying. But I love you, Teddy. I wish I would love to hear a podcast if you're just talking to yourself. You're like, hold on Dolores. What do you really think? Well, I think they don't think all there. I'm not. I'm not that good without you. So it doesn't. It wouldn't be good. You wouldn't know what screw talks was. I'm still not knowing really. Imagine if I go and like chat GBT this or Google it or do something and Paul happens to see like goes on my computer, his is dead and he's like seeing that I'm looking at it. I'm going to go tell him right now. You need to. You just need to confess. He doesn't need it. Paul's like, I don't talk with him. I don't guys. He's like kind of perfect. But yeah. Like, he doesn't need it, but he needs to know about it. He's a per... He's a... There's a lot of things. For me, aesthetically Paul is perfect to me. I love that. I didn't know we were going to end on such a lovely, devy note.

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