Patrick Clancy's Full Interview, New Presley Gerber Details & Taylor Frankie Paul Quits SLOMW

0:00It's your daily dose of Donna. Welcome to the show. Happy Tuesday, Tuesday, September 22nd. Thank you so much for being here after a long weekend. It was a holiday weekend for me and my family. And I took yesterday off. I was on Patreon though. So a few of you lucky folk folk folks got to still hang out with me yesterday. And here are all my thoughts on all the controversial topics of the weekend. Yes, there are so many things going on. Currently that we have to get into. We have three days to catch up on big, big things to catch up on. Of course, we have the Patrick Clancy interview and a new interview that got released today that is extended. And I wish they would have aired the entire thing. I'm going to show you a couple pieces of that plus some sad news with Cindy Crawford's son, only son, Presley Gerber, who died in a rehab, a $7 million home rehab at 27 years old. Just tragic, tragic. Of course, we've got Taylor Frankie Paul news.

1:09We've got Channing Tatum's burner account. Excuse me. Excuse me. And more, we'll get into all of it. Plus some Caleb Flynn updates. That's our American Idol crying, pastor. Yes, he's a cryer. He cries more than anyone I've seen on TV. All right, you guys, let's get into it. Hit that subscribe and like. Make sure to hit follow. Thank you so much for being here. It's your daily dose of Donna. Thank you, everyone, for joining me on today's show. I need some help from you guys. Well, there's two things I need help from. Number one, I'm in a funk today. Okay, I'm just being honest. I've got some stuff going on, some personal stuff going on. And I'm in a funk. I'm feeling like almost depressed. So I need your help to

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3:22Yes, so I'm a little bit in a funk. I'm not going to lie. It's not about you guys. Don't worry. Ain't about you guys. And it's not about Zach Peter LOL. No, it's about a life. It's hard being a parent sometimes. Being a parent is tough and raising kids is hard. And sometimes it bleeds into my day. You know, I don't feel I don't love when that happens. But sometimes it does. And so this is just real life. You guys, this is just real life. It's been a little bit of a run. But that being said, I usually come to the show and I'm able to completely just like Distract, distract, compartmentalize and just talk about other people's lives that are shit shows, you know. It's kind of better for me to focus on those others. So Maybe gossiping is actually somewhat of a helpful and healthy way to handle what

4:25Now that being said yesterday was Yom Kippur who fasted I actually tried to fast I did I lasted until about 5 p.m. Yesterday. So I didn't eat from 6.45 or 7. I think it was like 6.45 the night before Sunday night. And I didn't eat at all. I did have some coffee. So I know you're technically not allowed to do that. And I had watermelon, which I consider liquid. And I drank a lot of water. Okay. And I did that until about 5.00 p.m. the next day. And then yesterday I was like around 5.00 p.m. I thought I was going to eat The puzzle that I was working on. And I said this is this is now out of control. Okay. So I finally did that. And it was a nice day. And then last night Lance and I we cooked dinner and we watched the new traders. Are you guys watching traders? Um What are your thoughts on the new traders? So there's a traders season that has just been released and it's Normies. Okay. So no celebs. It's all normies. Even though they're all probably influencers.

5:27I don't know if it's as good. Listen, traders is a good show. But I think part of the reason that we love it so much is because of the personalities that are that come to the show. And actually I don't even think I Covered this. But the new traders cast looks so good. We have so many amazing Um People in it, including um My boyfriend Okay, my boyfriend. Yep, that's right. Craigie My boy Craig. Okay, so who do we have in season six of the traders, which is being shot right now I'm not gonna list everyone because there's some people I don't even know Bronwyn from Real House as a Salt Lake City. Casey Wilson an actual Real-life Mutual on Instagram, but also an incredible actress and hilarious host of bitch sash. She covers housewives and um Bravo Cody Simpson. He's like the guy from Disney back in the day. Craig Conn over. Mm-hmm

6:29Uh Cynthia Bailey you guys know her from Real Housewives Uh, there's some other oh Amira. She's from um Next gen NYC. We have Jacelle from Housewives There's probably a lot of people here that I don't know because they're from survivor and I don't watch survivor Um, Jag I think Jag Bains was from Big Brother, but I could be wrong. We have Janay Janay is I here pronounce it from love Island Janay Craig Joey Grazia Day I believe he was a bachelor and I know him from Dancing with the Stars Kristen Chenoweth on a random Out of left field we got our Kristen Chenoweth popular and is anyone else that's like super exciting for me. Oh Whitney Levit. Whitney Levit from um From Hello secret lives and Mormon wives, which is actually a story on today and Uh, you know, it's so interesting. Whitney is just really taken off from the show We'll talk about secret lives and more more. It's a little bit later. So anyway, I'm excited about that

7:33I believe they're shooting right now in Scotland So I will be very curious to see how that season goes, but I just love some of those people I think it's a good cast. I think it'll be a good cast um J Tor says oh my goodness. I don't even know most of those names I know you really have to know bravo to know a lot of names on the Traders you have to know bravo and you have to know CBS shows I feel like they really pull from both those places bravo and CBS I don't feel like they pull Reality stars from other places peacock bravo CBS that's what we get Okay, so um Speaking of CBS Send in it was a Patrick Lansing interview Okay, I wish if you haven't been part of my patreon go and enjoy patreon But here are my thoughts. I'm gonna give you guys my unfiltered thoughts actually I'm going to give you guys my unfiltered thoughts in just a second because I have an At break for you guys. So let's just do them throughout the show. We'll start With one right now and then let's talk about Patrick Lansing

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10:42By that I mean I believe he is Somehow not capable of showing his emotions in the way that maybe we Want to show our emotions maybe in the way that we Expect someone to show their emotions when their spouse Mertr is their kids and then jumps out a window to attempt to take their own life We expect a certain kind of level of emotion or sad or feeling or whatever And without knowing who Patrick Lansing is as a person. It's very hard to see his interview and be like oh Oh, okay, that that makes sense because it doesn't feel Realistic in what our brains think Someone needs to feel However CBS did Patrick Lansing a disservice and this is why I say this so

11:45Two things happened number one they released Two clips from the interview prior to Sunday night show One of them was when he's sitting on the park bench and he says to the interviewer that he has dreams of his kids Where he gets to talk to them and the interviewer says what to what do you say or what do they say or whatever and he says I tell them help me Weird Weird that is what you tell your kids when you see them in your dreams Then the second clip is he and his wife Rachel Danis and she says the whole meet cute thing I was running in a central park and you know cold Saturday and I don't think there's anything wrong with that And he's a selfless father on whatever and all of those clips Led us I think as a whole to feel like This is off. I don't think one person watching any of those clips and said good idea Yeah, this is gonna be good. This is gonna be great Now when we watched the entire interview they took out those two pieces

12:46They took those two pieces out and in fact left us with even less They left us with pretty much nothing now. There's a lot of takes on this interview a lot of people with very big platforms Are saying positive and negative things my first take from it was I felt sad for him I did I watched the interview I felt my initial and immediate reaction was when he told the story about Kalan It did make me sad but the more I thought on it the more I sat with it I said What was the point of this interview? Why did they release this interview? That didn't squash slash Quiet what the point of the interview was which was the internet turning on him And that to me was the pointless part of it now a lot of people say it doesn't matter what what he says or what he doesn't say He doesn't know anyone anything and let him be And I can see that to an extent, but he chose he He chose not forced he was not forced he was not you know subpoenaed

13:51He chose to get on a public interview a very public interview with an intention of Opening who he is up a little bit more to the public Going aside of him that maybe the public didn't know and getting the public to leave him alone with the conspiracy theories And I don't believe that the edit that CBS released did him that However, and and I will say in something else crime junkie which is a very popular podcast I want to say there are always in the top 10 podcasts of all like of all everything released An episode or a release a clip where they really kind of Took down the interview right away and this was on Sunday night now. It's not a popular Clip that they release, but I'm curious if you guys think this is interesting This is from crime junkie remember these are people that literally cover crimes for their careers

14:54And blank that is probably the worst interview I've seen in a long time literally any of the questions you had Not answered not asked so we all just watched the 60-minute survey that Patrick Clancy did on CBS Me actually Brit we all watched it um Patrick wasn't really asked anything by the host Of actual substance the only actual new piece of information we really learned was that his new wife dr Rachel danis is pregnant and there had been some speculation about that online that is now confirmed She said they met in January 2024 in New York during a run club They got coffee to get to know each other. She said she saw him pay with his phone and pictures of his kids were on his phone Apparently she asked him who are those cuties She said those are my kids and then she said do they live here in Manhattan kind of a weird question And they's like no they died or they're dead

15:54And then we just hear that they're like living happily ever after they're having a child and We like moved right along with the like there was no other questions there The only even like marginal other piece of information we learned was that he had a panic attack Before they listened to the 911 call during testimony and You know the the host asked him you know, there's been criticism of you online And that you looked stoic and you know weren't emotional and Patrick was like It's hard to testify and I had a panic attack before the 911 call is played like behind the scenes But I so basically the entirety of her clip and I'm not saying I agree with this completely at all But the entirety of her clip is saying that they didn't give Any answers to the real questions that the audience would have and they don't have to right That's the goal like he's not on trial He's not on trial and so he doesn't have to give any Answers of any of the inconsistencies, but if you really want to shut

16:58The internet trolls up Maybe It would be helpful if you answered some questions some really really strange pressing questions that everyone seems to have He's not there yet. He doesn't want to do that. He won't do that right now that being said I saw this morning when I opened up YouTube. I saw a Video that CBS released 60 minutes and it said Full extended interview and I thought to myself. I'm sorry. You got the most popular through crime case You know person on your show on 60 minutes and you didn't release the entire Interview that you had cut Why wouldn't you for time what did anyone watch 60 minutes after the Patrick Lancy clips were done I turned that shit off. I really wish they would have shown the entire thing So I want to show you guys a couple clips from the extended interview that actually

18:00Really opened up my heart to him I know that's gonna have said a lot of you guys But when I saw it this morning I said About 60 minutes really put this in so that we could understand a little bit more who he is It would be Very helpful in my opinion, okay, you could disagree with me But in my opinion so let's show a couple clips from this Um Number one at the beginning of the episode they talk a lot about how he met Lindsay Drugs Patrick said he struggled to help his wife navigate hold on earlier here one morning and she said I didn't sleep at all last night Oh, no, you think it's even you know, it's interesting. Uh, I hated this interviewer by the way rest But I didn't know how to manage I postpartum illness. I think mental illness has this ability to be tragically deceptive So I'm sure there are things that I didn't see What kind of support were you guys getting from outside the home besides

19:03Medical help like did you feel supported by your families? What was that situation Mike? Yeah both our parents We're trying to help as much as they could we had friends in town dropping off meals Lindsay was pretty open about it You know people that's at the kids school Were aware of it and they're trying to be helpful. So There was there were people who were trying to help us out Did it help? I think so at the time. Yeah Yeah, when you have that support when you have people rooting for you It can be helpful Patrick and Lindsay Clancy were living in the seaside town of duck So it talks about where they lived and it talks about then of course you get into the death of the kids that night I believe we saw this part You died in my arms During those hours with calon Clancy sat and wrote tributes to each gosh those kids are so sweet I can't get over this little baby's face so cute all three of them

20:06now This is when he talks about how he forgave Lindsay right off the bat which we found out about um and that part is like hard for me to swallow I don't understand how you forgive your spouse after four days for murdering your kids mental illness or not Like I just don't understand that Where you forgave her I saw headlines that said you know killer mom and baby murderer monster and None of them were accurate. I believe that it was her mental illness that caused that So I shared those words And I think when it comes to forgiveness I also felt that if I didn't get there I would be eating up inside That to me is like a really telling Personality trait that he was able to do that I also find it and and and I also find it weird only because at that point he didn't know Her mental illness to the extent it was right he had never talked about psychosis yet

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22:12so he knew off the Right off the bat that this was mental illness He didn't have to ask her he didn't have to question it He just had he just knew immediately That it was the mental illness and it could be a coping mechanism. You're right. Paula Because how can you even imagine the mother of your children killed them? It's a coping mechanism. You're so right It could have been it's it's Superhuman to forgive your kid. I mean to forgive you to forgive someone for this within four days It's superhuman Because I wouldn't be able to you know again. That's projection on my end, but I wouldn't be able to um Now there's a few different things he talks about here um including Yeah right here This is the part that was pretty much cut out when he says the help me part but here's a little more all the time In places or in yourself

23:14I always say they live within me um I talk to them What are you saying? Help me All the time Do they help you? I like to believe they do It's a way I stay connected to them You dream about them. Yeah All the time tell me a good dream I remember early on having a dream Maybe six months or a year after And I'm in the kitchen at the house and Coral walks in And I just look at her and I it was like That basically just said where have you been? And she comes up to me and gives me a big hug Those dreams are so real

24:16It's It's like I'm lucid in those dreams What should people know? That made me cry Does anyone Hear that? Where have you been? Oh So I saw that part and I don't remember hearing that on Sunday night And I was like oh That's an ouch like my heart Then he continues to talk about his kids Oh about Korra Korra was um cautious she was shy But she was So good at making friends I used to see her at birthday parties and And at school when I'm picking her up and I could see the friendships that she was creating And I just love that I love that about her She loved princesses She

25:17She'd love to do art Lesson to sports more Many many So well they're best friends Then he talks about Dawson And he says he wishes he got to know Callan more He didn't get to know Callan that much Callan Was just one of the happiest babies His birth was was pretty Easy going he was born in the middle of the day and it didn't take long I'm more in Callan in a way that I didn't really get to know him As well as my other kids How are your children with you now? Like How often do you think about them? Every day Every day all day I always say they live within me I have a lot of little reminders I do a lot of things to keep their memory alive And it's hard sometimes I've had people say to me You know Pat you're really quiet today

26:20But They don't know the things that are playing over and over and over again In my head They don't know that the scenes are playing over and over again From that night Or that the grief is just so heavy that It makes me quiet Are there scenes that play that you like? He talks about some feelings in A You know some positive things I continue to come in and come You know some kind Good memories that come in and I'm telling you I was watching this this morning at my gym Yes, I multitask even when I'm lifting weights And I got Tariah it got me It really did I wish they would have shown this entire interview Then he also talks about I want to make sure it's before Rachel comes in

27:21But he talks about how he's working through the grief And he talks about something that I think is really important for people to understand that he's not just moved on But just the two of us Didn't have to bring a lot of stuff she just had a backpack Okay, I'll die miss those times And um thought we'd be hanging out And um used to do Or just sitting in his playpen with him When you think about them this way Is it good or is it painful or is it both It's both But I love I love the memories I don't avoid the good memories I really never do The bad ones I avoid I really try not to think this is important you guys He says the bad memories do you notice how emotional I am? I'm like starting to tear up He says the bad moments I avoid and this is more to explain

28:27His lack of warmth when he talks about it Because I think he literally has forced himself You kind of hide it away just keep watching think about him. I mean it's traumatic and That can be overwhelming I've never felt like the good memories are overwhelming. I hang on to those What kind of help did you get? I think the thing that helped the most was EMDR Tell people what that is I wish they aired this I wish we heard this on Sunday night He hasn't just moved on you guys this guy went to someone to get EMDR training I mean EMDR therapy which by the way if you've ever had EMDR it's eye movement something something I don't remember what it's called But I've gotten it done and my best friend Valerie is a therapist that provides EMDR

29:28To her therapy to her clients and patients. I can't remember if it's patients with therapy Basically what it does is it rewires your brain you go you look left and right or you hold like two vibrating things in your hands rapid eye movement therapy. Yes And basically what it does is you have to relive the traumatic events and your brains need to like re Um, they're sending new neuro pathways basically so that it doesn't become so traumatic that you can't function or you and don't end up shoving it down and end up like drinking too much or Or being an addict or doing something that is Worse for you. It's really about dealing with the process and learning ways to cope with really really horribly traumatic things Here we go. I don't know what it stands for and ask something to do with Rapid eye movement It's a little unusual. They put you right back in that place that you've been trying to avoid for years

30:28And you face it head on And it's it's unpleasant But they get you used to dealing with that and eventually You're better at processing it and I they've used it in for survivors of 9.11 and October 7th and some horrible events And after I did that all of those sessions Um The waking up screaming the horrible dreams they mostly stopped I mean it was it was it was like a miracle Injal I'm sorry This was very important for the public to see And CBS and 60 minutes did him a disservice by not airing that

31:29That is more important than hearing about you know How he met Lindsay I wish they would have shown us that because Now you can recognize that he actually is struggling and not just moved on like the the The facts show He actually really struggled and is struggling still Because he was so stoic in that testimony Didn't show a lot of emotion and that was really important I'm really glad that they're airing it now, but I wish they would have aired it on Sunday Um then they go into You know how it was hard to hear all of the things Now we understand that but I want you guys to watch this one part of Rachel I still don't love Rachel as a human being. I still think Rachel to me is a little bit um It's just odd. I don't know what kind of personality you are maybe just like a ultimate trying to help and fix people

32:33But to start dating and fall in love with a man whose wife just killed their three kids in the last year or so In a very high profile case that you know is going to be going to trial and the ex-wife Or the current wife still when they met who knows if they were divorced or not is in a mental hospital paralyzed like that is a lot of baggage guys we talk about like don't date someone that has a cat This is all that a baggage So that is an interesting take but listen to this part, okay Um It's I think it starts with how they men the the whole coffee shop story which I didn't love trouble photo of children So what did you do then? I guess I had so many questions and yet at the same time I didn't know exactly what to ask I think I asked their names and ages And then the conversation just continued from there Did you imagine that this was actually a first date that could lead to love and marriage

33:35No So you thought this is a guy I want to be friends with and help I thought I don't I hope Pat's wants to be friends and Let's remain friends It remained that way for the next few months until Patrick came to one of her races and met her This is this humanizes Rachel a little more keep watching Sister who has Down syndrome There must have been a moment. Maybe it was a different moment for each of you right where The switch flipped and you were like this is something this is something we're doing Yeah, I it was the day of that half marathon. I think for me I had my sister um with me After the race I had and then she met Pat And I think you can tell a lot about someone when they're interacting with a person with special needs

34:40Pat was really friendly really warm and I again, though wasn't taking it that seriously, but we were all sitting at a picnic table and later I didn't know at the time, but Pat had taken a candid photo of me with Lauren and we were just hugging Sorry It's I just love her so much and Pat really saw what matters to me What did people say to you? When you guys started officially dating Again, it doesn't completely absolve like any questions we have about About Rachel no, but it humanized her a little bit more. It shows that she has You know, she's got her own life here. She was dating She was living her life as a single woman. She has a down syndrome sister So maybe her personality has always been someone that cares more for others or wants to take care of others

35:43Listen lance didn't come with that much baggage, but I remember when I started dating lance um Hearing that he struggled in his childhood. It like it warmed me up to him a little bit I'm not saying that that's it, but I just think that This just shows a little bit more of who she is now. I understand um so Claire is saying sorry, but this is not about her But I do think she's a big part of the story and the reason why is because A lot of the reason why the world has turned on pat Gosh, I can't turn off that air a lot of the reason why the world has turned on pat now He's pat he's no longer Patrick Clancy because of this interview in my head um is because of her If not for her people wouldn't think he moved on But being with her made him Look like he has no sadness about his past life like he's just moved on and he's on a new relationship

36:44So in my mind, I find this important that she is interviewed in some capacity, but they didn't do her justice So 60 minutes and and CBS whoever edited that interview did not do both of them justice and I would be pissed honestly if I were Patrick and Rachel because Just those couple clips that I showed you today. I think showed me a little bit of a different side now in my opinion If you have decided that you hate Patrick Clancy and you think he's evil and you think he's The reason that those kids are gone Then this interview will not have changed anything for you if you desperate to find out Where was the email written from did he go to Costa Rica? Did he have that reddit account? Did he this did he that was he having an affair? When did he actually meet Rachel like obviously a 60 minutes fluff piece is not going to answer that for you But I was more looking at it from like a human perspective

37:47Who are you and how are you this kind of like person that has no emotion about the death of your three kids and I saw And I did I saw more in this interview I have to say and that goes against some of my friends who are desperate to believe that he's An awful human being But my gut feeling and you know I'm a former casting director So I always kind of tend to like like to read people and I always got a little bit of a weird vibe from him And I still get a little bit of a weird vibe from her But in this interview I saw a different side of Patrick and I wanted to give him a hug I know that's gonna make you want to kill me some of you guys, but that's how I felt And I'm just being honest and he could be a really good actor and playing it up But I wish More than anything that they just investigated the shit out of that case Had they investigated the murders that night have they had they not left any room for interpretation had they Seen all of his phone records had they had they gotten all of the blood tested had they done every single thing right

38:49Maybe not maybe we probably wouldn't be here No one can open up you can't find flaws in a good investigation When you have a bad investigation you're gonna find Issues and there you go in Massachusetts is the is the prime state for bad investigations. They just don't do it well Um Whereas like the Caleb flin case that I'm also watching right now and I'll talk about a little bit in just a bit I Like for what I'm reading and seeing has a really good investigation tons of pictures DNA fingerprints all of that interviews video footage body cam footage like all of that That we and also the night one one call was released And I really wish that night one one call would have been released On this one as tragic as it is it could have potentially helped the world see Patrick in a different light

39:52That's just the truth, okay Um, you can't talk about your comments are so funny um I in reek as I wish people wouldn't give more grace and were more fact focused about everything right in life But Tony says you can't turn a pickle back into a cucumber Hmm BRB says why are some spouses prime suspects and other times they pass it's usually because of the investigation It's usually because like the Caleb flin case is wild you guys immediately upon entering the room the The police officers saw things that were off um, but yes, they need to investigate everything on all of these cases They can never take a murder or a crime scene for what it's worth anymore. You can't You have to do the due diligence and it's really unfortunate that Lindsey was in the place she was because if Lindsey had died that night If Lindsey had died that night, Patrick would have been investigated fully

40:52100% Think about it Right if you have three dead kids and a dead mother who's getting investigated The one surviving family member um, so interesting Okay So Deanna you bring up a really interesting point. I really want to explain why I even questioned with Patrick for a little bit Deanna says I agree with you on that But I think it's sad that we need all of this to make people believe Patrick didn't do it when Lindsey and her defense are literally admitting it So there's like a weird part about this case that is not It's not black and white in any way and I say this with true honestly My gut feeling is that Lindsey killed those kids, but I still questioned so many things because We're not being given all the answers the statistics the science the timeline the this the that none of it really fits

41:54Into a perfect box. It just doesn't and the way that reddington speaks also Opens so much so much up for Discussion he's just not very cut and dry He has never straight upset Patrick did not murder these kids Right, we know why obviously he's Patrick's not as client. He's defending Lindsey and he wants as much reason Reasonable doubt but anything like any time you get those kinds of answers or these kinds of conversations It's so hard for people to you know Move forward with that. I can literally Probably argue both sides really well. I can argue that she did it. I can argue he did it I can also argue that she did it Saying and I can argue that she did it Insane There's just too much There's just too many questions That nothing is is

42:58Nothing is black and white on this case. There's not enough evidence Now that being said um I still think she killed her kids at this point Even though it seems Like maybe out of That's how I feel that's how I feel and you know what we can all have arguments all the different ways But in my opinion at this point on Tuesday, September 22nd. I believe she killed her kids Lc says in my opinion, it's always gray I thought you were saying in my opinion. It's always gay and I would really enjoy that too because why not always be gay um There is uh Let's see let look I could just talk to you guys forever. This is why patreon so fun because I get to just talk to you guys How can Lindsey be 100% credible? Sam says admitting she did it if she mentally unstable with everything else

43:59Can't have it both ways. I do think she did it, but see that's the thing. There's too many There's so many gray areas if she did it with a clear mind then why would she be if she did it with an insane mind Then why could she eat like it's too hard? It's too hard Too hard um BRB says if a mom put their child in a car with a drunk drugged up dad They get in a car accident and die the mom would be partially responsible. I don't think that's true I actually don't know if it's true I mean, I guess if she was like you're drunk and drugged up and here's my kid. Maybe that's that I don't know I don't know you guys. I don't know anymore with this freaking case this crazy ass case um Okay, let's one more comment you guys because we could do this all day Donna this is from Draftfree Donna think about it like this hindsight is 2020 and after Lindsey did what she what she did

45:02He had hindsight to say it was the mental illness. He also knows Lindsey well enough to say that I think So two things it could be a coping mechanism because he can't even fathom the idea that he was married to an evil Murderer for six years like that would be hard Maybe for him to come to he also knew that she was struggling so much he knew that she would she had just checked into a mental hospital um and be Uh I wish I believe I think I believe Patrick on this one. I don't know I don't know you guys. Let's move on. Let's talk About a little bit more. I did love some other things because this is a tough one I don't know if we'll ever know. I don't know if you'll ever be satisfied. I have friends that say I'll never believe she did it and then I have friends that say I'll never believe he did it It's just the way this one is. It's going to be tough. We need to like get a crystal ball and a tarot card reader

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48:09Of Cindy Crawford and Randy Gerber and Unfortunately Has died at 27 years old on Sunday morning at a rehab facility Now new information has just been released by TMZ that his doctor was giving him ketamine Okay, so another ketamine death and At some point we're going to have to question how ketamine is being used To handle addiction I don't understand it, but this is What TMZ has just reported now we know that he was found unresponsive at 930 in the morning On Sunday September 20th at the seven million dollar home in Santa Monica on the 1000 Berkeley Street 1000 Avenue of Berkeley Street, which is in Santa Monica in the middle this home is like a halfway house And it's in the middle of a gorgeous gorgeous neighborhood if you live in that neighborhood of Santa Monica Like you're spending millions and millions of dollars plus so much property taxes plus everything

49:11And you're living amongst a rehab and I didn't know that that exact exactly was there But I'm sure the people that are there did and so Neighbors have been interviewed and said that you know ambulance is coming go all the time They come and go all the time because a lot of people come into rehab and either get so sick from withdrawal or um You know Another reason but according to TMZ Presley Gerber's doctor was prescribing him ketamine despite his known issues with the substance It says people who are in regular contact with Presley and who have direct knowledge tell TMZ that a doctor was giving him ketamine despite knowing about his drug addiction issues ketamine can be used to treat drug addiction Though that it's not that's not its FDA approved intention ketamine was a regular problem for Presley and close friends are angry But the doctor prescribed it to him and they think the doctor should be prosecuted To be clear TMZ says we still don't know what drugs were in Presley system when he died

50:12Just that he opened up about his issues with ketamine to close friends before he passed away His his situation sounds eerily similar to Matthew Perry's before his death remember Matthew Who dealt with drug addition for years as well was prescribed ketamine for depression and anxiety Now Matthew Perry's story is a whole other beast and of course his ketamine queen her name was jazz bean She was sentenced for 15 years in prison Plus other people have gotten in trouble all the doctors But doctors that prescribe medications that ultimately kill the the um The patient usually tends to they tend to get You know Charged I mean it's very similar to what we're dealing with the Lindsey Clancy Imagine there's gonna be huge civil cases when it comes to these things By Cindy Crawford. I can't imagine Cindy and Randy Gerber the last thing that they have to worry about is money right They're not out there trying to get money. I can't imagine but they will sue the shit Out of every single person involved here. I guarantee they're gonna shoot the doctor shoot Geez they're gonna sue the doctors

51:14And they're gonna sue um the rehab facility and who knows who else right So apparently sources who had contact with pressley and his final few hours said that he looked like he was under the influence at the rehab center But no one exactly knows so he had been trying these alternative treatments for addiction Including one called iBogane iBogane iBojii and e and it's a psychoactive substance which some believe opens up neural pathways and help people addicted to drugs So essentially it's kind of like what we just said Um about EMDR but doing a drug to get rid of your drug addiction It's really really sad what's going on in this story um to know that you're in rehab and you're dying But the question is did he bring Something in with him did he come into the rehab completely You know ready to overdose no one knows apparently he came into this rehab one day

52:17before Okay, and inside it's called um in this rehab facility in Santa Monica Uh, it describes its operation as a structure to recovery residents rather than a traditional hospital or detox center So it's people that are transitioning out of more intensive treatment and trying to rebuild their lives in a supervised sober environment so in this um the residents participate in shared meals social activities and outings Uh, so it's a halfway house essentially if you want to look it at that way right because there's also wellness and recreation activities exercise yoga hiking beach outings and artwork shops There's a 24 seven on-site staff check prepared meals a stock pantry a gym a movie theater and outdoor and common areas And um no one knows specifically anything i imagine we'll find out soon Of course Cindy Crawford and Randy Gerber are Inconsoleable. I can only imagine i actually believe that this was a family that really

53:20Really was close um You could kind of feel that from all the interviews and just even the way that they commented on press leaves Instagram account in the last uh You know few months they've talked positively about him about how proud they are of him But according to people it's as Cindy is completely in shock over his devastating death. She is heartbroken um and Of course right of course There's never a situ- this was not a situation according to this source involving two absent Hollywood parents Cindy and Randy could have never been more supportive of pressley They were always there for him and did everything they could to help him The family has always been incredibly close and pressley was deeply loved It's actually really tragic to think about this is very Not it's not Nick Reiner in that sense, but it's very kind of similar. There's like some through lines in my brain because i think about money

54:28Um resources I don't know if pressley was I don't get the feeling about pressley that I did about Nick where that he was a un happy kid I don't feel like pressley had as many mental health disorders as nick Reiner from what we've read like nick Reiner It seems like he struggled a lot with bipolar and potentially schizophrenia and like all the I don't believe that Pressley had that but pressley was severely addicted to drugs and suffered from depression and anxiety from a young age I mean he was pulled out of school and gone on to the modeling circuit and I guess that could be one of the major uh Contributors to this when you're just pulled out of a normal life of surfing and skiing and and playing with your friends and doing soccer and whatever And then you go all of a sudden into this modeling career and Um, you also have a lot of pressure that maybe hurt the parents didn't even put on him but Unknowingly put on him because they're Cindy Crawford

55:29And Randy Gerber and then of course you have the daughter Kaya who has spoken spoken many times about the fact that she's always kind of had to take and how many of you guys can relate to this If you either have a sibling Who has struggled or if you're a parent with two kids That the one who's not struggling Almost like becomes the easiest kid in the world because they can't Fat them putting their parents through two difficult children And that is actually really sad so kaya while pressley and kaya were raised the same Pressley went on down this dark path And kaya went on the complete opposite side She's making millions of dollars a year She her life is like so together. She does incredibly um well for herself. She seems happy Yes, maybe she struggles with eating and her body image, but that's not nothing compared to Drugs and alcohol you know in that way

56:31It's just so sad But the saddest part for me was when I was on his Instagram and Watching just so many of his videos. I didn't follow him. I didn't really even know a lot about him, but um Watching a lot of his Instagram videos from when he was younger and It just broke my heart you guys it really did because he was Such a freaking Sweet adorable cute little boy that I hate to say it you guys, but it kind of reminds me of my boys this little blonde baby boy And when you look at the videos Of him dancing with his little sister as a little as little kids you think to yourself This kid is never gonna go down this path So here's a video of Him and his little daughter. I mean daughter his sister

57:31Dancing when they were probably for what five and four And he says happy birthday kaya big 24 this year. I love you so much. This is one year ago You look at this and you think where did it go wrong? How could this little adorable toe head blonde boy Turn in to that Look at this Hi Hi It breaks my heart for Cindy and for Randy and for their sister. I mean he was so cute It's just sad Anyway, um, I hope that whoever is responsible for the drugs the doctor does eventually come forward about that But unfortunately, you know addiction. I just think about it sometimes like

58:33If you are severely addicted to drugs how How hard is that to fight? When it's more than just a mental thing But it's also a physical thing like I just can't imagine and the reason why you do ketamine I imagine is because you're craving that dopamine so much you're craving that high you're craving the shift you're craving It's so hard It's so hard. So anyway prayers to that family what they're going through it is I can't imagine they have an easy road ahead of them. So prayers out now Let's lighten up a bit and talk about training training Tatum and his burner account you guys Can't with this one before we do that this next Section is brought to you by draft kings who said you can't have things your way I don't like being told what to order what to watch or what to play and that's why I like this one on draft kings Casino you spend your way with flex spins. There are exclusive spins that let you pick the slots

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1:00:36I He says after donna through was all into the pits of despair. Let's laugh at blockhead Tatum Did you guys hear about this now? There is nothing more embarrassing than getting caught with a burner account And Channing Tatum is dealing with that right now. I'm embarrassed for him truly embarrassed for him Do you guys actually think this is true or not? Let's talk about it So eagle-eyed fans are thinking that Channing Tatum is leaving comments on social media post about his exit So someone found an Instagram account leaving kind of cruel comments about Zoe Kravitz and Jenna Dewan And the name is Nanya Bidness N-o-n-y-a-b-i-d-n-e-s-s Nanya Bidness Okay And the reason why they think it was about Channing because this Nanya Bidness had one follower Channing Tatum Channing Tatum is the only person that followed Nanya Bidness. I can't even say it out loud. It's so funny

1:01:40now The comments would write stuff like just here for the hate about his ex or in another comment He seemed to reference actress Jenna Dewan who he was with for 10 years. Obviously they were married and they have kids together Or one kid I can't remember He said Nanya Bidness His ex-wife tried to grift his money Zoe knew she was too much of a free bird to settle down and this one is an adult Let that man sew his wild oats and peace about like you know on a crazy comment When another person responded that if a woman was dating a younger man with a 28-year-year age gap It prompted Nanya Bidness to hit back. This is about Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles who are Five years apart and he said you don't know me. You have no idea what I would say But let me give you a hint. They're both adults. Let them live. I am not everyone Another comment fans discovered he referenced Channing Tatum's past comments about Kravitz

1:02:40In a July 2022 interview Channing Tatum told entertainment tonight. She sees right through a lot of people's stuff Uh, and really just who are they to her is really simple She's one of the more intentional people I have ever met in my life He was expressing awe at her clarity. This is about Zoe Kravitz and focus while she directed blink twice but in this um In this comment he says when I see these two I think back at how her former fiance called her the most intentional person He knows I wonder how contextual he was being Okay So clearly he was speaking a lot about this and then he said to me intentional equals calculated He was speaking in terms of filmmaking but leaning towards her as a person in general too Now she's constantly spotted with Harry compared to the ex who we heard about long before they were seen together And when they were seen together was far less frequent it could be nothing, but it just made me think So he's like referring to his old comments about this

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1:04:45Exclusions apply visit the website for full terms and conditions I'm sorry. I really do believe it could be him Now it may not be But he is of course come back out in his real account and said I only have one account. I can't believe I even have to say this But to me if you have to say it. I don't know. He said Yo, I yo, okay, let me show you This is his story this morning. Yo, I truly can't believe y'all think this is what I'm doing with my free time Fuckin hilarious Also, why would I follow a burner account if I didn't want people to connect me to it? What the fuck come on But if I really need to say it, I only have one iG account channing Tatum So I'm curious if you guys believe that or not I don't know channing Tatum. I like channing Tatum in general But then I found out he was besties with Ryan Reynolds and that immediately not besties But he and Ryan Reynolds do a lot of shit together and that immediately makes you

1:05:49Unlikable in my book like when I saw this post of channing and Ryan From last February I Immediately was like I'm not sure of channing Tatum is the guy that I thought he was You know Look, we know That a lot of the Kardashians all have burner accounts A lot of celebrities have burner accounts not necessarily to comment, but maybe to I don't know well, I guess to comment why else would you have a burner account? I have no idea Um Kiss me Kate says does your husband like his ex on dancing with the stars Yeah, I think landslikes Jenna. I mean how could you not like Jenna looks she's so hot She's so beautiful I mean, what do you think Lance is caring about personalities at this stage just kidding No, I think he I don't think he has a big there's only one person he said something bad about

1:06:53But that's it um Okay, so Taylor Frankie Paul Taylor Frankie Paul is You know what I say and I can't remember if it's Hebrew or if it's yetish Taylor Frankie Paul is the biggest newdnic In all of history Meaning she's annoying as balls, okay? I can't stand Taylor Frankie Paul. I really can Taylor Frankie Paul is the biggest like look at me look at me look at me Person there is in the history of America. She's also an addict. She's also that's not like it's on its own a problem But she's addicted to attention. She's addicted to engagement. She is Not in my opinion the best parent. She clearly has Um some serious issues that she only has her kids for eight hours a day and now She has decided to post yesterday that she is leaving secret lives of Mormon wives

1:07:56Now Hulu has not confirmed this. So I think Hulu is probably like, ah here we go Here we go. Okay, it's yetesh. It's yetesh. Thank you. She's a new neck Okay, my gratitude goes to all the networks that supported me throughout As she says and gave me the chance to return however I don't desire to move forward like this I originally was willing to be removed to let them all continue on with less stress and I'm back to that point Some of the girls know what I've been through and then to turn and collectively pile on with her statements knowing there has been ongoing Abuse through the system the last eight months on top of what I've endured Um almost the entire cast plus some going at me laughing about my kids is disgusting They're not laughing about your kids Taylor and I bit my tongue These same people had meetings telling me I need to lead the way of pay My voice is the only one that can make it happen and then they would work from what I demanded I'm grateful I never followed through with their requested demands and I'm grateful I kept same pay out of fairness and integrity I treated production and crew with respect to always in fact there are the ones who checked on me through this

1:08:56I agreed to the point of bullying for months I agree it's to the point of bullying for months now What makes it harder to take in is some of these parents have made mistakes that would result in the same judgment I'm receiving yet pointing a finger however It's a pleasure to remove myself so they can continue because I've almost convinced myself I'm deserving of all this pain again victimhood this with the Taylor hit Taylor is the queen of making herself a victim And to a certain degree absolutely this is consequences of my actions my quest and she edited this So I don't remember reading this at the first time my question has been how much suffering and scrutiny is going to be enough I'm just relieved to be out Look I Believe that she gets bullied online. I do okay Because she is a human being on a reality show and when you're a human being on a reality show you get People making comments the amount of crap that people talk online is Unbelievable, but she can't handle she can she can throw things out and say the worst things about her cast

1:09:56But if they say anything to her bully You're bullying me Stop bullying me. I want her To leave secret lives of Mormon wives and never come back I do not want to watch Taylor on TV as good of TV she is I believe we are all complicit if we're if we continue to watch Taylor Frankie Paul and give those shows numbers We are complicit in enabling someone that is so self-destructive that god knows what's gonna happen down the line I really do believe that she is not headed into a good place. I think she seriously has some major major Mental health and emotional struggles her mom can't stand her her family can't stand her she can't She can't have a successful relationship not even with a man with women too with friends with her kids like it's really crazy And I'm I don't want to continue to enable bad behavior by watching It doesn't work for me. It really doesn't so In my opinion, it's not the move for her to continue on that show and Hulu

1:10:58Maybe it can be bummed, but they should just come up with some new shows like she shouldn't be it anymore um So to me, I'm okay with her being gone in my opinion um KJ beer man. He has been released from jail We've been talking about KJ beer man that story is so sick But he finally got released from jail. He's living with his mom. He has to be living with his mom um He was granted a $200,000 bond And after one month in jail nearly one month in jail He has to now stay with his mom, which is actually insane because we all know Kim Zolsey I cannot control shit in her life Um, he has strict rules from the judge including a stipulation that you must stay at his mom Kim Zolsey ex house Attended school virtually Also no social media and cannot use a cell phone He's also barred from having director indirect contact with the victim or her family or associates

1:11:59And he cannot have contact with anyone under the age of 16 Anyone Under the age of 16 that means his own siblings. It doesn't say Barring his family. He cannot have contact with anyone under the age of 16 guys Can you imagine being 15 and not being able to have contact with anyone under the age of 16 and you're under 16 So yeah, where are his siblings living now? We know Kaya was recently seen at a football game With Kim just the other day So they're around. I just don't understand This is backwards behavior He should not be released back to the home in which he conducted this kind of behavior under Uh, there's so many wrong things they supposedly confiscated his phone about a year ago his parents and like they knew about all this stuff and they just let it go um Yeah

1:13:01I just don't think that there's going to be a good ending there either. I mean there's no way This is like if you're under 16 and you're not allowed to be around anyone under 16 you are a You have a problem you have problems with children like you're I don't even know what to say um This is an interesting article about George Clooney writing a letter To pressly Gerber that's interesting um and finally sadly hate and panateer as we assumed um was Uh Was officially deemed died of an overdose we all kind of heard that she took one pill and died now she had her Memorial over the weekend and her mom wasn't there And her ex-boyfriend Brian thank god and his brother were not there, but many people from her career were there her

1:14:04Uh All the cast from Nashville a lot of the people from Nashville a lot of the people from various shows. I saw um Evan is his name Evan Ross Diana Ross's son that's married to Ashley Simpson was there a bunch of different people so um That's actually That's actually so sad. I mean, I still can't believe that all went down that was pretty crazy All right, you guys. I mean, I could keep talking about so many different things I'm gonna be on Jesse Weber tonight on news nation if you guys are watching I will be talking about let's see what are what topics they want me to talk about um We're gonna be talking about clavicular have you heard about clavicular and his new charges Okay, we're gonna be talking about dolly parton And dolly parton's drama around her um Legacy and like her escape

1:15:04We talk about carrot top these are three things I haven't covered on the show and carrot top suicide attempt after being allegedly blackmailed I'm gonna have to read up on carrot top. Okay, you guys. I adore you I love you. Thank you for being here on another day. Thank you for pulling me out of my funk whether or not you did it on purpose or not I love you and I will see you guys a maniana. Bye You