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1:00$20 minutes a day. $365 days a year. This is the Packer Day podcast. What is up Packers fans? Happy Packers Post Game Show. I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on social media at Andy Herman NFL podcast, Appacaday podcast. My jerseys are swinging around. Nick Collins is a little bit off-center. They kind of feel how I think should be following that game. A game where clearly Green Bay was the better team. A game that never really should have been in doubt. But my goodness, can this team just not get out of its own damn way at any point in time? Fumbles in the red zone. The love interception at the end, which was a phenomenal play by Jacob Parrish, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the fence of back. We'll talk about that one in just a little bit.

2:02Drop passes, penalty is just a constant shooting yourself in the DIC team. Like in a really remarkable way. I can't totally fathom just how this team continues to live in this style of play over and over and over again. I mean, this was like a Midwest nice off. And I know the Tampa is obviously not in the Midwest. But just like, would you like to win the game? No, how about you win the game? What would you like to win the game? No, you win the game. Just a total ass-off between these two teams of neither team wanting to actually win the game. There was a lot of positives in between all the dumbass stuff that Green Bay did in this game. They looked far more competent on a down-to-down basis when it just came to simple blocks running the football. I wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but you didn't have like the catastrophic missed blocks, missed assignments, those sort of things.

3:03I thought that actually looked quite a bit better through a good chunk of this game. But then again, in key moments, it would be drops, penalties, fumbles, interceptions, all those things that just kept rearing their ugly head. And all the other games continued to rear its head in this one. And thankfully, Tampa with an undrafted free agent, Rookie Quarterback, was just unable to take advantage of the multitude of Packers, Heirs, and Mistakes in this one. A win's a win. They moved to two and two. Again, you never apologized for a win in the NFL, but Green Bay is going to want a lot. And I mean, just a ton back in this game. This should have been an easy double-digit win for the Packers. I really liked how Jonathan Ganon was aggressive at the end of the game. And wasn't going to allow, you know, for just Jalen Daniels to sit back there and buy time with his legs or, you know, find anything downfield. Evan Williams was phenomenal in this game. The sack to play at the end to get the force, the incompletion, the interception,

4:06a pass break up on a key third down. He was phenomenal. And then of course, the elephant in the room as well. What am I going to say? You guys know it already. It's not just the game that's at hand. It's what it had cost you. And this certainly looks like a pop to killies for Edren Cooper. And we'll be done for the season and, you know, fighting back through training camp next year to try to get ready early in 2027. Three beyond devastating injuries already for the Packers this year. With now Edren Cooper with a likely Tornick Killies. Jalen Reed with next surgery. And who knows how long that's going to take to recover from. And if he can recover from it. And then Zach Bakable, L.A. with what is usually just like a completely crippling injury for an offensive lineman with the Patela tear. So three nightmare nightmare injuries now for the green bay Packers through four weeks. Over the last three hundred thirty five days, you can add those ones onto Michael Parsons with the Tornick ACL and Meniscus. Tucker Kraft of the Tornick ACL last year.

5:10Isamick Duffy went out with an eye injury in this game. Chris Brooks went out with an ankle injury. Devante, why it went out I think with an ankle. But he did return as well. But at the end of the day as I tweeted out earlier today, even if everything was absolutely perfect for this team. The three catastrophic injuries to Bakable, L.A. Reed and likely Edren Cooper. It is probably a death knell through any sort of competitive team that the Packers wanted to put together this year. Those are three far more important players than you know that then you can afford to lose in the course of a season. So devastating there and just the other thing too, you know. This I think we can probably tell and you know you never want to write any final chapters in week four. But you can we can tell this is probably not going to be a special season for the green bay Packers. It's still fun to watch special players in the course of those seasons. And Edren Cooper is one of

6:11those players and just not getting to watch him every Sunday is a huge bummer. He was having a great game up until that point and you just knew immediately you know that the looking back and feeling like you know it looked like he felt like he was shot like who just shot me in the leg. Like why did why did somebody shoot me in the leg and you just knew right away. And again I don't want to you know it's being too soon. But the Packers announced it as in a kill ease injury. We've seen it a million times before we knew the story before we even got you know the the confirmation that it wasn't a kill ease. There was you know he grabbed for the ankle a little bit and he came into the the game apparently with some sort of ankle injury. So there was a small bit of hope for just a little bit that maybe it was you know something on his ankle that you know had an issue or a flare up out of nowhere. But it wasn't it was in the kill ease and we kind of know the rest of the story from here unfortunately. Hopefully we get a miracle good news update on Edgerton Cooper but I'm assuming that we are not going to get that and that is a devastating injury. Just to go back

7:11to the love interception just because I want to talk about that one really quick and then I'll get to all of your incredible questions. I'll be here probably for as long as you guys want. Certainly until we get through all the super chats but we'll probably get through quite a bit of stuff. That's a great play by Jacob Parrish. I understand why there might be some frustration in the moment from Jordan. You know about Jordan love. Jordan love is never going to anticipate that that corner is there on that particular play. I think Matt has to learn from this a little bit and be cognizant of when you're using a dummy player on the outside. In this case, John who Smith smart defensive backs are not going to honor it especially when you're in need of a big play like that. Jacob Parrish could make a pretty educated guess that when John who Smith is lined up as an outside wide receiver that that ball is not going to John who Smith especially the way that they've targeted Matthew golden and they get Matthew golden in the slot matched up with the you know in a matchup that they want. Parrish read that incredibly well to just be like I'm taking a chance here.

8:11I'm like he left John who Smith entirely like he completely left him if Jordan would have you know looks left and saw John who he would have had just about the easiest completion that you could possibly imagine but that play has never gone up to go to John who and again when you play dummy players outside whether it's a Caleb Johnson or a John who Smith or a Mark Redman or whatever you know most defensive players are just going to mark up on their guy and feel like hey I've gotten you know a playoff here where I can just kind of you know easily mark this guy and I don't really have to worry about much but a smart player like Jacob Parrish is going to say hey we're down we need a big play. I know it's not going to John who I know it's probably going to the guy next to me in Matthew golden and I'm just going to read this the entire way and if I see Jordan start to look at Matthew I'm going to go jump this thing so in no world when you read that defense for Jordan and you've seen that defense a million times over are you ever ever expecting Jacob Parrish to be in that spot he's never supposed to be in that spot that's a lone wolf sort of play from Jacob Parrish and he made a phenomenal play so I don't have a ton of you know issue with Jordan throwing that pass

9:1799 times out of 100 when he gets that exact same defense it makes that exact same read and throws that exact same ball it's going to be a big play to Matthew golden but Parrish made a really smart moving again I think Matt LaFour has got to learn from that a little bit to say hey I got to be careful with you know placing dummy players out on the outside that are really not going to you know run a route that is you know viable for Jordan to throw to and the defensive back made a great plan it lots of other really awful plays you know the Caleb Johnson fumble fumble was brutal now Tucker Kraft at the drop in the end zone they eventually got the the touchdown out of it on a really cheap penalty too many cheap penalties on passing her fear and so kind of got to make up one on that a little bit later when you know Christian Watson at the OPI so a little bit of a makeup call there but yeah you know you had the drop by a golden you had the drop by a bow melton just again a multitude of errors that the Packers forced on themselves which is what's really really frustrating I do have the Brewers game on here one out so far good start for Logan Henderson

10:23Padre is batting first of course and then we've got NFL red zone up as well just kind of keep it in eye we've got 11 seconds left fourth and goal for the Arizona Cardinals down by six to the Giants Jacobi Bersett throws a pick that is a dagger that's going to go for a pick six if he does in fact return it all the way with no time left yeah that's going to be a 36 24 New York Giant victory no time left on the clock big play by the Giants Giants pick up the Wayne Cardinals get the loss in that one a lot of other close games I think the Rams just got a touchdown to go up on the Eagles Jaguars and Bengals still battling Bengals driving down by five with the football right near the red zone Texans down by four 16 seconds left second and 10 to Shy of midfield Stroud going deep he's going to throw a pick here up just over through it but not looking good for the Texans looks like the Cowboys are going to pick up a win and yeah this Eagles Rams game turned on a dime so we'll keep an eye on all these games and now two outs for the Padre's two straight K's for Logan Henderson phenomenal start from him all right let's get to all of your amazing

11:25questions thank you to the 875 of you who are already in chat here today the golden is such a stud joy to watch yes although he has had some big drops now through four games in fact about at least three of them that would have been first downs or big plays so he it's a good play by the defender to pop the ball out no question about it but he's got to find a way to convert those into two plays so Matthew golden the least of green based problems right now but this is sort of the instance where you know when you're not playing great football and you know it might just be one play from Matthew golden right and do we really overall need to focus on that one play from Matthew golden no probably not but when you have the one play from golden and then the one play from craft and the one play from Jordan and the one play from Caleb Johnson and the one play from Travis Glover and the one and all the sun those one plays from just about everybody add up and when you only get you know 50 60 plays on offense whatever it ends up being yeah you're going to end up in a situation where there's just far too many negative plays so I thought golden was good again the

12:29least of green based problems but still needs to make sure that some of those those big plays and those moments are held on to and that's a fourth down stop for the jaguars jaguars going to get the win over the Bengals they'll move to three and one the Bengals will move to two and two Bengals are out of time outs we got the win yay Puerto Rican Packer thanks for being here a wins win they're two and two can always be worse but I don't think you can add much confidence from the fan base coming out of this one jalen hurts get sacked Eagles have no time outs they're gonna struggle they need a touchdown tough look for the Eagles right now penalties drops and Cooper down can't fix the injury we can get back in the jugs machine though get Mike wall in to get rid of these penalties I did think the offensive line in general looked better today again far from perfect right and I'll be very interested to see how it looks when I get to the all 22 and break down the film but much better competence overall really makes you wonder why jacobunk and donovan Jennings and I know they didn't

13:31have Tom Linson right but really makes you wonder why Jennings and monk were in there and maybe Glover wasn't maybe Glover was worse than I thought at first glance but it certainly looked a lot more competent this week so some good signs there but a long long way to go for the screen-bay packer steam align look better but holy drops I'll take a win though go packo appreciate you being here beast bumblebee yeah new flavor of issue this week for the packers no question about it with all those drops have been an issue for this team but that definitely still too many self-inflicted wounds he went he went call it oh didn't call it machado all right let's see yeah lots to work out for green bay bowling shoe ugly Jim Ross good Jim Ross call out always love a good Jim Ross Jalen Hertz going long there's nobody there it is an incomplete pass but it was fourth and 25 Rams come from behind find a way to get the win the packer not tied with the Rams and the Eagles

14:33at two and two crazy to think about but all three of those teams somehow sit at two and two now go packo don't hurt me brewers machado did just walk Henderson almost had the strike out on a check swing but machado does work the walk so first base runner for the podraze Glenn center thanks so much for being here and thank you for the super chat a fair performance at best by the old line but there was some improvement given the context of playing in 0 and 3 team in my opinion letting Myers go led to a cascade of online talent and durability that's on goody and Matt but a win as a win again I don't think anyone was pining for Josh Myers to stay in green bay when he left he was coming off a couple of really really rough seasons in green bay but you have to have adequate replacements at the same time they have just in general regardless of who's out the door or who's in or who's here now or whatever the case may be they've just done a poor job of putting together a a good solid group of offensive lineman but as you mentioned today was

15:34better did part of that have to do with playing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers I am sure but you know listen V2v is still a very talented player yeah yeah Diabbi is not a terrible player like they've they've got some pieces on that line and green bay still looked markedly better on the old line today than they had over those first three weeks of the season thanks for the super chat Glenn something or strong with when Brooks is your running back one Caleb showed why wasn't and Lloyd only seems to work well in open space all lines still can't run block but love was getting hit every place so that wasn't getting hit every place so that's a plus again better from green base a line they they just don't have competent running back play right now there were a couple moments from Johnson that the one big run there was a you know the beautiful hurdle from March on Lloyd but Lloyd had the fumble as well lucky that that one went out of bounds and then of course Johnson has the fumble that's been an issue I would expect no matter what happens with Chris Brooks I think they're going to have to start looking at some changes maybe it's as simple as Pierre strong being up next week maybe they do something different but they got a you know this week was offensive line makeover green Bay Packers edition and next week might be running back makeover green

16:41Bay Packers edition they might need some linebackers too we'll see if Christian Welch that's going to be a one all lead for the San Diego Padres big two out hit it ended up being a walk for Machado then he wild pitch I think it was a wild pitch over to second and then and then a two out hit gets a one nothing lead for the Padres so the brewers go down to start the game after a really what looks like a great start for Henderson that's a good piece of hitting by the Padres they're up one nothing not great there for the brewers but yeah running back is going to need a little bit of a makeover the one is nice but this is a a crappy team uh yeah it is it's not playing great at the moment they're going to have to find a way to get a whole hell of a lot better and that's again now we're going to be without Jayden Reed and without Edran Cooper and without Zach Bakable-Lay they will get a new right guard next week although again for the most part felt like Lover was solid now we'll see again what it looks like on the L22 maybe I'll feel differently after that um but you know

17:44eventually they might get help from Josh Jacobs eventually they should get help from you know Micah Parsons but a long way to go for this Packers team no question about it I don't think anyone's feeling super confident despite a win over the now Owen for Tampa Bay Buccaneers out soft liner to Bryce Tarrang and the brewers get out of the inning but the Padres do strike first and get a one nothing lead to start the game we'll see if the brewers can strike back here immediately in the bottom of the first as soon as Cooper went down on that play I screamed like I just broke my arm yeah if you know you know right as soon as you saw that I got the alert on my phone that Edran Cooper was down with an injury so and then the play came up on my screen meaning like the play hadn't been run yet so I just watched Cooper on the play I didn't even watch what was happening on the play I just watch him and I saw him go down immediately with a non-contact injury and you just knew immediately like you just absolutely knew immediately what that was I hope I'm wrong I'm hoping we get a miracle I hope we get some good news on it but yeah um we've seen that

18:49injury enough to pretty much know exactly what that injury is so just devastating news for Edran Cooper and the the Packers almost at the brewers um Marina thank you so much or Marinera Marinera sauce I thought it said Marina Marinera thank you for the jewels appreciate my friend the Dakota fire Glover starting and Lloyd jumping over someone 2p taller than him wasn't on my bingo card for the game yeah Glover did get time with the ones we did talk about that is a slight possibility uh Vikings take a three o'leat on the dolphins by the way we did talk about that as a slight possibility just because there was one report that he did get a little bit of time with the ones so with Matt you you never know sometimes there's some subterfuge I think sometimes it's subterfuge for the sake of subterfuge I don't think I think the idea that uh you know the buck in ears are going to be like oh we thought it was going to be down in Jennings but now it's Travis Glover I rip rip up the game plan we have to figure out something new we didn't expect Travis Glover to be out there uh you know it is what it is but we did talk about that as a slight

19:49possibility because there was that one report that he did get a couple snaps with the ones in early individual drills or you know lined up in drills I should say since September I said B at 500 when Parsons returns yeah part of the issue Jeff as it seems like we're still probably at least a month away from Micah returning and now is kind of when the hard part of the schedule starts right so you now have the the bears the cowboys um the lions the panthers it sounds like Micah's going to be probably out for those four games can they go to and to in those games I think they can right now as we sit here today I know the packers were two and a half point favorites earlier in the day against the bears they are currently still two and a half point favorites as of right now according to ESPN against the bears so packers slight favorites next week and then again you get another home game against the cowboys who are also two and two haven't looked exactly super impressive so far so we'll see what this team can do um but you know if it's four more games

20:54that they're without uh without Micah we'll we'll have to wait and see if they can actually go two and two in those next four games. Andy I don't smoke six but I think I'm going to pick up a pack today don't do that uh don't don't recommend that but I can understand why you might need something after that game some sort of substance if you will. By our coaches and training staff I'm tired boss uh I almost tweeted out can I get off this ride please I want to get off this ride it's it's tough um I will say I don't think the offensive play calling today was bad there were a couple runs where I didn't think runs were necessary but a part of that too is like if you just have you know if a couple of those are a little bit better if you just run the ball just a tiny bit better if you have an offensive line that can slightly execute uh on some of those runs you you feel a lot better about it but a couple two any runs uh you know especially on some second downs but I thought overall uh the the play calling was was pretty good this to me was execution which again by the way still MATLA Flores responsibility

21:55to get his guys to be able to go out and execute the actual game plan in the plays that you're calling but I put this one especially offensively on the players a little bit more um I thought Jonathan Ganon had a really good game plan for Jalen Daniels yes he scrambled a couple times yes there was a couple of coverage was blown but I really liked that they were aggressive with it came after him and I thought in the end it paid off pretty well uh Turyo grounds out the third one out for the brewers in the bottom of the first again down one to nothing starting to accept that our talented young players just aren't that talented comparatively it's a weird dynamic it's a weird dynamic in the fact that I do truly believe that there is a ton of talent on this team but my goodness that young talent also and just not not even just young talent just talent makes a lot of mistakes in some key moments and just I do think part of it is it feels still like this team is pressing in some sort of significant way like they they are just so tight

22:56and they're worried about either making mistakes or trying to do something a little bit too flashy and these mistakes continue to happen but if if they want to be great their great players need to play at their peaks but eliminate those valleys eliminate those errors and until they can do that then yeah they're they're just not going to be good enough but you see and it's not just in flashes you see some really talented play from Green Bay's best players Evan Williams a phenomenal example of that today Evan was phenomenal but you you also need to make sure that you're not having those those issues and Green Bay said far too many issues again from even some of their best players grounder for terrain he is out two outs from Milwaukee our Smith for the first time in I can't remember how long our O'Line looked NFL worthy without Zyler and we still almost blew it with two red zone turnovers beggars can't be choosers I'll take it snatch the money and run you take the win somebody asked me in the pre show if if anyone was here

23:57for the pre-shum sure many of you were somebody asked me in the pre-show what I take you know competent or a better offensive line playing a loss or bad offensive line playing a win and I said you just got to find a way to win this game you no matter what no questions asked I think a loss would have spiraled this team in a place they probably couldn't have come back from that's just my guess so I think you needed the win no matter what but you kind of got both you got both better offensive line play and you got the win you just had new leaks pop up throughout the course of the game that now they're gonna have to put out those fires I know leaks and fires I'm mixing my metaphors here but you get my point they're they're gonna have to clean up some of that other stuff unfortunately I'd be nice if they could just put a full game together but that has not been the 2026 green Bay Packers powers grounds out three quickouts for the Padres Brewers down one nothing after one inning we head to the top of the second most of the teams in the NFC look messy they do and listen this is not the first month of the season is not the time

25:04for your best brand of football you know very few teams are playing anything close to that it's it's a messy brand of football around the league right now you can see it teams are pretty evenly matched any given week you can win any given week you can lose there's a few exceptions to that rule but it's a it's a messy league right now but you know green Bay's found a way to slightly slightly ever so slightly stay afloat but again things get tougher now and already through four games you have lost three of your best players two season ending injuries and all likelihood with Cooper very much likely being out with a a pop to kill ease so that's going to be a very difficult thing to overcome as well. Hey Zeus green Bay green bowl Packers green Bay Packers played horrible but at least we came out with a win hopefully no injuries today were too serious afraid as the you know immortal Wade Barrett would say I'm afraid I've got some bad news it certainly looks like Edwin Cooper is going to be done for the year. Hey Zeus so a very devastating injury there again hope

26:09I'm wrong hope we get good news on it but it does not look good at the moment. The game makes me wonder if Sam con got over to Juan Harris are in game shape and the fact that we have now had to ask for David Bach TRE Cori-Linsley Sam con got to to want Harris right what's Ryan grants up to you know just too many too many holes on this team right now and not enough solutions or for the crack of the soda. We'll be right back. Football is finally back and price picks is bringing out their best offer yet. New users who sign up will get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup that's right if you win your first $5 lineup you'll get $150 in lineups and now price picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff because everyone and everything is on price picks. So let me ask you what are you all in on this football season?

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28:15build on shop now at participating home depot lows and floor into core stores for more information visit James Hardy dot com slash hardy backer is it me or is wailin having a down year he's been about good for one really bad punt per game this year which is definitely different than where he was at a year ago um disappointing for sure I have a feeling he can get that cleaned up uh but it definitely needs to be better uh that that one punt was really really brutal in this game and again he said he's had three for sure on the season I don't know if it's been every single game but he said three out of the four games where he's at a really bad punt in it so got to get that cleaned up for Daniel Wailin he's he's too talented to be doing anything like that and setting up the green bay packers in poor field position because of it. Chair Hill thank you for the super chat the difference with and without kupis so stark thank good gives Wagner call no I don't I don't think they'll give Wagner call um I'll be interested to see what they do at that position um could just be Christian Welch will see as the call up player for him they could look throughout the league again

29:18I don't think it's going to be uh I don't think it's going to be Bobby Wagner I don't think Wagner and Zyre Franklin are your ideal pairing at linebacker you already have your kind of veteran slower guy and and Zyre you know I would probably try to get Tyrone Hopper up to speed Hopper's got literal speed and the athletic ability that I think works well paired next to Zyre Franklin but in the meantime my my assumption is that's going to be probably Isaiah McDuffie and then Hopper will be the top backup and then Neiman will be the top backup after that and Christian Welch probably gets called up to take that fifth spot which should help the special teams if Neiman and Welch are both active on game days but um obviously not ideal if you need them at linebacker. Carla Delgado coming through with 20 more pack-a-day podcast memberships uh appreciate you Carla funny story somebody uh was mad because they got gifted a membership um and was trying to figure out a way to get out of it it was very funny message it's like I can't figure out a way how to get out

30:19of this membership I didn't ask for it why do I have this membership sorry sorry Carla keeps gifting them so you'll have to take it up with Carla Delgado but appreciate you Carla. I know the pick but Jay love was clinical most of the game sucks about the injuries called broo crew very much sucks about the injuries Jordan was great throughout the majority of the game I had the interception if you weren't here for it we talked through it it's a great play by the bucket nears Jacob Parrish and again you have to be careful with who you kind of put out in that wide receiver role if they're not actually going to be utilized as a wide receiver uh not a great start for Henderson in this inning he walks uh Gavin Sheetz so man on first nobody out to start the inning for the podraes. Get shit Matt's culture is the biggest problem we are just witnessing the end of the air and green bay we need a fresh start for this franchise yeah I mean this uh this whole sea you know season is going to be a pretty big referendum on where things are out with Matt LaFlore it's obviously not off to a great start for the first month of the season um we'll see if they

31:19can bounce back in any sort of significant way I struggle to see that right now simply because I um I don't think they're playing a good brand of football I think there's far too many mistakes but you know one game at a time yeah I remember when what they were three in six or three in seven through 2023 and then all of a sudden had the the chargers and the chiefs and who's the other one in that uh they had three really tough teams that they played back to back to back the lions I think it was and they go three and oh and that stretch and completely turn the season around and eventually get into the playoffs and beat Dallas and should have beat San Fran and they looked nothing like that team that went on that winning streak in the middle or you know middle towards the end of the season when they were three in six or three in seven or whatever it is that they were so you know things can change in an instant in the NFL you wake up one day and you're terrible and you wake up the next day and you're you know much better hopefully that can be the case for Green Bay but right now it's uh it's tough to see that vision at the moment Evan Williams appreciation most you guys that have

32:22been following me for a while now know my affinity towards the play of Evan Williams he is a stud among studs he is fantastic I thought he played it at all pro level a season ago I was shouting it from the treetops and uh you know he's playing even better this year so um good good on him for having another really good game holy cow what a catch I did not think he was going to catch that over the shoulder catch that is an unbelievable play was that David Hamilton who caught it and Cooper Pratt's a little bit banged up but he seems okay um I think that was David Hamilton that came up with that catch that is a crazy crazy catch for the first out that avoided disaster yeah David Hamilton over the shoulder catch crazy crazy play Turyo wasn't going to get there Pratt comes up a little bit weird hopefully Pratt's going to be okay long way to go things can improve but right now oof great way to put it pipe Bernal pipe Bernal MAD does things season is over super bowl hopes in the toilet focusing on

33:25college ball now you need a culture change and a running back I say smothers from Texas great vision I have not watched any smothers from Texas tapes so I cannot confirm nor deny uh but I think it's a little bit early for that um again not trending in a great direction I'm not going to try to sell you a bill of goods and say this packer seem is going to make a special runner anything like that but you know what one game at a time is all we're looking for right now they escaped the Tampa with a win that's all we were looking for to begin within that game a better brand of offensive line play not perfect but better and and some good moments of play that I thought were encouraging but with the same idiotic stupid mistakes that happened as well um so lots to clean up still no question about it and tough to imagine or envision uh any sort of special season for green bay but long way to go thought redmond look really nice yeah obviously they're really nice catch had a really nice block in the run game as well uh he's a good player for them you know he's limited and upside of what he's ultimately going to be able to provide for you but good blocker

34:27can catch when open and uh you know I thought that was a good performance from him at first glance today guess Cooper doesn't care about the packers because he didn't do what Caleb did oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I just feel for him absolutely feel for him can't go 14 in out in three without this win so go packo they technically could they could have right they could have lost this game and then reeled off 13 in a row so I disagree with your your comment here Joe horse they absolutely could have lost this game and still technically gone 14 and three so um the option was out there but uh I'll take 14 and three Joe it's time me up most eight at Chicago and Matt survived the youtube fireball barely hit this would have been on Jordan with that pick barely hit this would have been on Jordan with that pick unfortunately Ben Johnson is coming for blood go packo I'm not sure I get the gist of your overall chat here most stated Chicago in but yes Matt survived against Todd bulls in the heat of a thousand sons bowl

35:32and who's under the most pressure moving forward barely um oh you're saying this would have been on Jordan with the pick I again I thought that was a great play by by parish I know exactly what Jordan saw there your mileage may vary you may feel otherwise but I'm I'm not super upset with the Jordan for that play the really great play by Tampa and again you have to be careful in that instance of who you're putting out at the wider see the wide receiver spot which again in this case with John who smith and parish did not honor it at all rightfully so and came off his man and went and made an incredible play Mike it that Mike a back at off ball linebacker no no no no no I he's he's a pass russia through and through I get what you're saying but no you you can do it you know one or two plays a game if you want to but no you keep him at a drussia please Carla with 20 more memberships thank you so much Carla seems the online looks a little better besides all these penalties maybe with Zyler they can be somewhat serviceable encouraging today

36:34I think is the right word far from perfect still a ways to go but encouraging a step in the right direction is how I would put it so again want to look at the all 22 don't want to jump to too many conclusions want to watch the tape but I thought in real time you saw legitimate improvement and and maybe be having a bit of a mini by we kelp with that as well and probably just playing against Tampa helped with that as well but you know signs of improvement which at this point will certainly take I'm excited to see this team battle this season it's going to be tough watch but I'm a fan so I must watch that works sucks to suck podra is ended up with a couple base runners on first and second but Henderson was able to get out of it we head to the bottom of the second brewers down one nothing charges at a field goal against the see hawks they're up three to nothing on Seattle at this point in time other NFL scores right now just get you guys caught up maybe maybe we the Vikings are up three

37:38nothing on the dolphins chiefs and raiders are tied at zero broncos and 49ers tied at zero and the chargers are up three nothing on the see hawks we have four games ongoing at the moment and you've only missed two field goals if you're not watching one by the Vikings one by the chargers final so far Packers beat the buck in year 17 14 uh colds earlier today crushed the commanders 30 to 13 um Patriots uh beat the bills 29 26 pretty big ups at there bears beat the jets 23 to 12 bears moved to three and one on the season Jacksonville beat Cincinnati 22 17 giant speed the Cardinals giants moved to three and one on the year Rams come back versus the Eagles slightly improbable based on where that was uh 124 to 20 Raven speed the Titans but Lamar Jackson at an injury um we'll see uh what happens with that Cowboys come back and beat the Texans Texans are now oh and four on the season which is absolutely insane really crazy too that the Texans put up 30 in that game and their defense couldn't stop Dallas at all Dallas puts up 34 of course the Browns beat the Steelers on

38:41Thursday night football that's where we stand right now Got a signed Bobby Wagner or another inside linebacker I don't know that they will touch down Raiders by the way look at those look at those pesky Raiders I ended up potentially 4 and 0 with Kurt Cousins obviously long way to go in this game but Ian Thomas with the touchdown I don't think they'll sign Bobby Wagner I do think they'll look around you know potentially at practice quad linebackers from other teams and see who they can add they might just go with Christian Welch too but uh we'll see what they do at linebacker but you know you can pretty much expect Edger and to go on IR really hope that the touchdown catch gives Tucker some confidence moving forward hopefully I mean I know we had the drop in the end zone um he took his eye off the ball to kind of look down at it um you know he still had six catches for 42 yards in the touchdown on seven targets only only had the one drop I caught everything else that went his way you know not the most dynamic day that we've seen from Tucker craft but um again if we're looking for steps in the right direction

39:43I would still say probably a step in the right direction for Tucker I call the Packers by a billion and Delvin Talvinson is truly a savior uh Delvin Talvinson out for the chargers in this game he's inactive even Packers I pretend that are on the team uh can't stay healthy so poor Delvin I bring him up as a Packer and he gets hurt just by as Moses so my apologies to to Delvin Talvinson again just got here a little bit ago but is St. Juice relegated to special teams at this point yes can't say I'm confident in valentine being our next man up yeah that's the other injury we're gonna have to kind of keep an eye on Brandon C. Say went out late in this game we will see if there's any major injury there if you know if he's just you know able to bat next week but uh it'll be interesting it seems like valentine is their preferred next guy up he has been that way pretty much all the way along but uh I would probably put St. Juice in in that scenario but Packers have not have not decided to go that way but hopefully C. Say can just be okay first it no that's why they continue to get in first in 20 Matt they they don't want to live in first in 10 so they just

40:45immediately go back 10 yards get themselves in first in 20 in a a difference out of circumstances though yeah first first down has been in general an issue for green Bay so far and you've heard anything about what's going on with Josh Jacob situation no there's no update there uh the NFL it seems like wants to see the video seems like they have not seen the video yet and they don't want to make a determination until they see the video sort of understandably so but at some point you need to make a decision too um yeah no no update other than that William Contreras strikes out brewers go down four in a row at this point again down one nothing one out bottom of the second and Carlisle doggato coming through with 20 more packet A podcast YouTube memberships appreciate you again Carlisle you are an absolute legend with no turnovers and let's say a touchdown in a field goal instead it would feel totally different coming out of this game than we do right now there is absolutely some truth to the the idea that if the Packers did

41:49not continue to punch themselves in the nuts that this would feel a lot different I think you can say that about just about every game you know in Minnesota and maybe even if it's not the three penalties in a row that get called maybe that's different maybe in the game against Atlanta if they don't get the roughing the pastor they get the ball up seven nothing and maybe they go out on score and maybe the entire game changes in that situation you know maybe it gets the jets you know a couple things go their way a little bit earlier they're able to get to a bigger lead and you know can can I sit away a little bit better you know there's a lot at play there but the Packers through four games have consistently and continually made dumb mistakes penalties drops turnovers mental errors guys being aligned in the wrong spot not blocking people lack of communication like there have been new and exciting ways to shoot yourself in the foot every single week and at some point and in order not even a quarter of the way through the season but at some point

42:54the the team is telling you who they are they're undisciplined they and they they kind of shoot themselves in the foot in big moments and it would also be one thing of like for years now whether there's been no sign of this team we have seen this in years past including towards the end the last year and really just kind of last year overall too so the this team has been telling us who they are and to not listen and to think otherwise I think would be foolish it's not to say they can't get it turned around it's not to say they can't be better it's not to say that you know they can't find ways to to be successful and we have seen in moments that there are tons of opportunities there but this to look way better way better than it's looks so far and you know this team probably could be three in one right now not without any crazy you know change in things but this team has to prove consistently that they can play a better brand of football before they deserve that benefit of the doubt so yeah I do think things could feel totally different if they you know just produce in the red zone but Caleb Johnson fumbled and you know Jordan through the

43:59pick it was a great play by by Tampa but he threw the pick and when you make those mistakes that's who you are and again if we're one off would be something totally different this has not been a one off these have been mistakes that Green Bay has made over and over again never wanted to lose so bad yeah um listen if you're you're only prerogative is the floor getting fired and that's all you're cheering for at this point okay I think that's a waste of a season um like it's that I've been there with with Mike McCarthy in that Arizona game where I was cheering for a loss so I understand what that feels like I would prefer just to because the Arizona game where the difference was there is I was so worried that if if they won that Arizona game that Aaron Rogers would go off on his you know run the table magic and then it would save McCarthy and the things would never get better right um and there was no opportunity for them to win it that year

45:01it was very clear that they needed to change and some of you were very clearly in the you know the obvious that the Packers need to change now and if so I understand some of the thinking that way I would prefer they just turn it around if they turn it around you know you get Micah back and you get Josh Jacobs back and whatever happens who who knows where things go from there but um and I think the other thing that is a little bit more interesting here too is you know you don't have a first drum pick so you know tanking or losing to just lose and get a better draft pick is not really in play here either so I do think that this is a team that I again I know a lot of people are just like why would you you know you're of the ilk of I would never cheer for the team to lose and I respect that I understand that um I'm certainly not there with this team right now I think this team again this entire season is going to be a referendum on Brian Goudacan St. Matle floor we're going to learn everything we need to know and uh we're gonna um we're gonna have a great

46:03few for what needs to change if there are needed to be changes made one way or the other uh whether or not the Packers do it or not that's a different story but the remainder of the season is going to be a referendum one way or the other so I'm just going to try to enjoy the ride hope for the best see what happens see if they can get things turned around and going in the right direction but um yeah I understand why it's a frustrating experience right now but I think uh I think it doesn't help anything to just hope to lose at this point in time because there's a lot out there still two and two it's early in the season but as I've said I'll show long long way to go still for this team to get better side for all the dumb stuff that this team does all the time it was actually okay can we not lie to ourselves about how this team is um the the weird thing is I do think I do think that there is stuff that was better in this game for sure it doesn't you know it's lipstick on a peg overall because this team continues to again punch itself you know where over and over and over and over

47:03and over and over again and they're telling us again who they are but I do think that there were better signs of competence and overall play in this game in totality we didn't get to see the fruits of that because in key moments again they still shot themselves in the foot but I think if you if I think my my guess my guess is when I look at the tape I'm going to feel pretty encouraged by a much better level of play overall and um it's a few catastrophic errors that really cost them from you know potentially winning this game by you know maybe even you know two or three touchdowns so I hope that that's the case again that doesn't cure all the yields you still have to find a way to clean up all that stuff and this stuff has been existing for more than just the four games of the season so even if it looks better if you still have those catastrophic errors and they continue to happen then yeah it's it's going to be it's going to be really difficult but I do think we're going to come away looking at the tape and I think it's going to be a bit better than what we've seen in the first three weeks so far which is progress which is right now what we're asking for.

48:08Hey up thank you for the super chat appreciate you a ton. Chad ahead thank you maybe we they can start going to manual Wilson up to see Hawks get Sharpen A back healthy yeah I talked about this Wilson's not at a great start in Seattle he is not look good I'm sure you could get him for a ham sandwich if you wanted to but uh yeah they I would like them to shoot their their sights a little bit higher if I'm being honest then just to manual Wilson at the moment a lot of this is going to depend on what's available a lot of it's going to depend on you know the injury to Chris Brooks a lot of it's going to depend on when they think they're going to get Josh Jacobs back if they're going to get Josh Jacobs back there's there's a lot of play there running back but um yeah if they they they they need to start looking at different options I've suggested Kamani Vidal I think you'd be a good addition for them you know the chargers are not using them at all but we got to touchdown we've got to touch down for the Miami dolphins against the Minnesota Vikings Chris Bell from Malik frickin Willis let's go Malik Willis touchdown dolphins seven well six oh we got a flag though we got a flag we got a flag please hold

49:12touchdown chiefs chiefs get in the end zone this Chris Bell I think it is first touchdown of his career I believe I don't think he's had one in another game but my my Chris Bell Miami dolphins knowledge is fairly limited but I think that's his first career NFL touchdown illegal touching on the offense no touchdown for Chris Bell so he went out of bounds and came back in and was the first to touch it what it seems like so take the touchdown off the board that seems like a very Miami dolphins thing to happen Vikings catch a break of course they do all right so let's see Bell slips he falls whoo tough to tell from that angle if he actually went out of bounds or not I'm assuming he did huh interesting uh yeah I again want to shoot my sights a little bit higher than a manual Wilson to be honest past rainy camps you said Lloyd might be the best running back what did you

50:12see as something changed or do you think there might still be something there yeah I talked about this a couple times what's been really interesting if you've noticed and I talked about it too he did not have that training camp this year he was not the dynamic explosive running back that we saw in the past two training camps I don't know why I don't know what's changed I don't know if there was an in like with his injuries if it's just sapped away some of his explosive ability I don't know but I mean he would make spectacular plays at practice even go back and watch some of like there were some plays in preseason I want to say last year Mayben is rookie year two when he actually got in there's some pretty dynamic plays from him in preseason two um even his one run that he had in the regular season and his ten carries he was able to bounce it to the outside and explode to the outside and get a pretty good gain on one of those runs um but I did not see it in training camp this year never talked about it this year uh as something that we saw so it is really weird that it doesn't seem to to be there right now it's unfortunate but yeah yeah I thought another tough

51:13game other than the one very explosive vertical leap yeah almost had some testicular explosion on that play but thankfully they did not and uh yeah that was a fun play by Lloyd but overall he is not shown that same dynamic ability beast bubbly I don't think this team is great but there was improvement and we have more help on the way those a holes are giving me a very small amount of hope we'll take hope at this point in time beast bubbly it's it's not always it hasn't been there all year we'll take a little bit of hope coming out of this game dibo Samuel nice run from dibo i'm a smoke on for you but it won't be a cigarette all right hey Zeus uh we all love the packers bro i'm assuming that was in regards to somebody audio is cutting out check check check it it might be because i'm going like this is it because i'm going like this and watching this or is it because the audio is actually cutting out can somebody uh somebody help me i can try to be better with my mouth to microphone

52:15just gonna wait for the comments here to see if there's some other issue at play might also be because i'm streaming a million things while going live audio is perfectly fine okay so maybe it was just me going to the side so sorry if it was uh cutting out sounds like it's not cutting out um it's actually cutting for zack apparently not for other people so zack i don't know maybe check your headphones or something but uh seems like it's fine sounds okay audio is good fine okay matt stated in his presser outlook not good for kupir probably out for the cd i mean we we could have guessed that one unfortunately yeah i'm sure when it's me going like this i'll try to try to be a little bit more microphone friendly when i'm trying to check the brewers of the uh the game for the red zone channel this is why i said you can share and support for the team but still be critical of their play always always Alex love played well overall today i'm just so confused why he finds the worst time to make

53:20mistakes um i wish i i don't have any all 22 of that play yet but uh ah kupir prat out two outs already from a walking the bottom of the third offense cannot get anything going but um so all right they did a pretty good job of explaining it you know for villma who i thought at a pretty rough game overall um he did a pretty good job of explaining it so when jordan's reading that play jay comparison is not part of his viewing for when he's watching if golden's gonna get open or not you know he reads it right pre snap he pretty much reads it right post snap as well he knows exactly where to go based on the coverage and based on the matchups that they're looking for that is a play when you get john to outside john who's really a dummy they're getting Matthew in the slot they want a target Matthew and they get him on a favorable matchup in the slot and that's what they want to go they get everything that they want to play the defense is exactly like jordan love reads it and you know you know he

54:22knows exactly what he's gonna get he anticipates the throw it's gonna go to gold and it's gonna be a big gain and parish comes off as guy completely like completely just says i'm not doing what the defense tells me to do on this play i'm not doing my quote unquote job on the play i do not believe that john who smith is an actual target so i'm gonna fall off him and i'm gonna go cover Matthew golden as an extra player and read jordan's eyes the entire time and if they come back and they throw to john who i'm gonna tip my cap because my defense needs a play here so that is a unbelievable individual effort from jacke of parish it is not a play that if you're jordan love you're ever gonna anticipate that that corner in that spot is ever gonna be there so when you read it pre snap when you read it post snap when you see golden matched up that way you were throwing that a hundred times out of a hundred and you're gonna complete that 99 times out of a hundred but it was just jacke of parish literally saying like i don't think you're gonna throw to john who smith

55:24and i'm gonna go make a play for my team and he did so you know sometimes as as i know we like to point fingers and cast blame and you know be angry at people sometimes really truly you just have to look at the other team and say awesome play awesome awesome play and i think that's honestly truly one of those where i don't really put a ton on jordan um maybe he could have had a little bit better visibility on what was coming on the backside i'll have to watch the all 22 maybe i'm more critical of it when i get to my grades this week if so i will tell you guys but at first glance and after watching the replay i really truly believe you never really could anticipate jacke of parish being in that spot and parish made an incredible play so nice job for him really nice job for him looks like hamilton's gonna strike out podra's our challenge unit was called a ball but i think it's gonna get overturned and it is and the brewers strike out and they have gone nine up nine down

56:27through three and in so far podra's taken one o'lead into the top of the fourth let's get some runs brewers turn this game around well when is the win andi i believe get on board okay um was it a mistake at the end of the half to not try to get closer for smacked three and six and we still had eight i don't think they had a third and six and they saw a timeout well they had a timeout but they only they only had the one timeout right so you could call the timeout right away if they call the timeout right away they know that you have to play the sidelines right and so what you're gonna do is you're gonna drop back to pass they're gonna have the sidelines covered and you're gonna have to do that throw where you throw it over the receivers head and you just waste a play to waste some time and jordan goes over one with an incompletion on it right so i actually don't think that there was anything more they could have done um if you get up to the line you're not guaranteed to get a playoff plus completion and a like a timeout right so i i don't i think that they actually manage that correctly

57:31i don't think anything more positive would have come out of calling the timeout first other than you might have had to have run two one or two plays to you know just buy some time and then you get might get a false start penalty so no i actually i actually think that that was fine in that situation Andy love you brother but okay there's i'm not saying there's not talent Daniel i'm telling you this team is so far told us through four weeks and the end of last year who they are i've said over and over throughout the course of the show i'm not giving up on the team i'm not saying that it's you know completely over but i i would i would think that of the 1130s who people who are here in chat if i came on today and was just like yep here we go team is fixed now get ready for the bears teams teams going to go on a run super bowl here we come i would think there would be a lot of roll dyes and i think about half the chat would have probably left by now again never positive never negative just trying to be realistic i i think this is a pretty poor performance overall from green

58:35bay i think they have now put four really poor performances together through four games of the season following up on five really poor performances at the end of last season i've not seen a good football game from this team in a very long time so do assume that you know because there's quote-unquote talent here which by the way they are now without zack bakaboole edran kouper and jane read for the year edran kouper is sorry uh my kaparsans is still probably at least a month from coming back josh shakeups there is no timetable for return in sight they don't have running backs the offensive line is still in flux no i would be again selling you a bill of goods if i'm like everything's good they want big win against tampa let's get fired up let's the green base turning this thing around in real time that's just not real you know they're they're playing poor football overall they got to win today don't apologize for it celebrate the win let's go happy for it but long long way to go before we are in you know everything's okay territory and things are turning around for the screen bay packers team get it happen sure oh that's a heck of a catch by kouper pride hell of a play one out on top of the

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1:00:43inventory they're just right there on your dashboard for anyone starting a small business the biggest thing i can tell you is it doesn't have to be perfect shopify can help you build upon it start your free trial on shopify.com packers to know with villma on the mic bring him back oh god you know he continues to play like this we might see a lot of johnson villma so buckle up uh could be a lot more of it the ox are up seven three and the chargers Vikings up three oh on the dolphins seven seven tie between the sheaths of the raiders and three oh lead for the broncos over the 49ers is where we're at right now podra is leading the brewers one nothing one out in the top of the fourth Logan Henderson at 50 pitches Gavin Sheets the six hitter up to bat again top of the fourth nobody on for the podra's villmas impossible to listen to need to win more yeah there you know to the victor go the spoils you win a lot oh no there's a what is that oh it's a fumble for the Vikings i guess incomplete neither not ugly play for the Vikings

1:01:46come Tuesday we'll be feeling good about this win go fins and panthers cool that field looked worse than my local high school did you see that too didn't seem like it was in great shape overall uh sheets flies out to contraris two outs for the brewers not gonna lie the Vikings offense looks worse than ours it's not in great shape they haven't been in great shape all year they've just been finding ways to win but no it's Vikings offense is in in pretty rough shape too and he stopped talking sense to Daniel he's got the packers winning the Super Bowl that's great you be an optim like be an optimistic fan a million percent i don't want to stomp out your optimism for the team i i if you're just a complete fan like go for it be optimistic that's phenomenal i have no issue with that whatsoever um in my role i have to be a little bit more critical i have to be a little bit more realistic with what's going on with the team and i have to just call it how i see it and so far i've seen a team play for pretty tough games so far but by all means continue to be

1:02:50optimistic we could use a little bit more optimism in this fan base right now i promise you so no nothing against Daniel um with his optimism that's fantastic i hope it's contagious La Floresean Pist a great coach is the bench uh what part did you see him pissed for uh pipe Bernal i'm curious we need the Vikings to lose so our Wednesday video is more interesting for uh for uh with uh Paul Farronton you mean yeah that would certainly make it a lot more interesting Kenneth Walker it looks so damn good what a free agent signing for the chiefs not gonna say it it might sound like a negative nelly but Tampa wins by 14th with with by 14 with Baker today thoughts yeah uh Tampa probably wins i don't know if it's by 14 uh strike out for Henderson uh Padres remain up one nothing we had to the bottom of the fourth it was uh you know but also i would say you know if green bay had edrian Cooper micaparsans

1:03:56jayden reed you know um zack bako bole and we're healthy too i want to see that that's the game i want to see that's why hate injuries i want to see the buckineers with baker and anybody else that they were missing in this game right i want to see all of those players and i want to see green bay with Cooper and bako bole and micaparsans and even luke moscrave and all those guys i want a josh shakeups i want to see best on best i want to see the best players in the world going against each other and today we got a game where there's a lot of really talented players that were missing from this game on both sides including Tampa Bay starting quarterback so unfortunately we were robbed of a much better football game that would have been a lot more entertaining if everyone's healthy in that game unfortunately it's not so it is what it is oh he was asked about the fumbles i hope he's pissed you should be pissed you know fumbles drop passes penalties you know there there should be a level of pissed off and and hopefully accountability we haven't seen

1:05:00it get better though matt's been pissed before we haven't seen it get better how how how is this team going to take the step from being pissed off that these things continue to happen and actually make it so they no longer happen and i do think at some point the onus is on the players i know this team goes through you know ball security drills every single week at practice i know that they are teaching the right things i know they're teaching how to hold on to a football i know that they are working on the jugs machine i know that they are working on all these skills to make the players and put them in positive situations to be successful at some point the players have to go out and execute catch the passes not fumbled a ball yeah execute the game plan is part of that on mat sure it is but in this one that there were numerous times i thought players were in positions to be successful and the players did not execute the play so at some point players have to go out there and execute any what form of packers are on the league have been balling out dobs quay Eric Wilson etc. Eric Wilson is probably on that list dobs has not been great quay's been pretty good

1:06:04Devonte obviously is a huge one Devonte has been really good. Colve and Lanning continues to play pretty well in Jacksonville i have to probably go through it with a little bit more of a fine tooth comb but those are certainly some of them yet the one thing i will say about the refs today is they were pretty consistent on the illegal contact and passing her parents where they were kind of nitpicking everything right so i didn't like it but at least that was their one their one battle they were fighting in this game we didn't see a catastrophic roughing the passer penalty or anything else it was just some crappy passing her parents calls went against both teams and they were pretty consistent with it i'll at least give them that. If winning by three costs us coup i don't want to win anymore i don't blame you chiller they needed this win today though in a pretty big way. Redmond did look good not defending out the floor but the players have to make plays for sure i think both of those things can be true. Players aren't practicing hard enough we have heard it from the players unacceptable from professional athletes

1:07:04fair honestly if the running backs aren't mad after how they played today i'm not sure what can even be done you would hope that there was a level of disappointment from the running backs themselves and how they played in this game. Did hate house off this game was called yeah i mean there have been a lot of penalties for everyone for a green bay that is a crazy catch for tattis robbing sure you of a base hit. That's the second straight game where sure yours been robbed by a pretty amazing play in defense by the podra's one out for the brewers ten consecutive retired from Milwaukee by the way. coaches are going to give players a time out these are grown men they need to act like it. Agreed. Roughes were consistently calling pass interference on plays that were not interference at least they called one on Tampa 2 again didn't like the place which they weren't called on either side but at least that was their one thing and at least they were fairly consistent with it.

1:08:05Andy the whole game it felt like they were losing by two touchdowns i just don't like the vibes of this team i don't i don't love the vibes of this team either i wish that they were a better overall team and playing a better brand of overall football unfortunately right now they are not i think if you were on the team you would probably feel a pretty awful vibe just on the you know how the team is playing too they've got to find a way to get it turned around so far they've not really been able to do so. Here's strong call up next week definitely possible. Probably a bad analogy but can you tell your kids something a hundred times and they still do the opposite you can't trust me as a parent it happens it does. Always the coaches fault never the players hate that mentality yeah i thought again it's on matt 2 to get the players executing at the level they need to but i thought today um this was more on the players than the coaches to be honest in some of those because it felt like a good game plan overall it felt like players were put in a position to succeed and then it felt like you know it was the drops the penalty is the fumbles that really put this team behind the

1:09:07eight ball and put them in poor situations. He said if they can't hang onto the ball they won't play good good. I also do not want to be blown up by the bears that does not sound fun. Where are our team leaders coaches aren't the only motivators? Man another out from a walkie-juss cannot get a base runner. Yeah i mean i think i've seen some stuff from the the team leaders you know zyre franklin's been pretty vocal but i don't know i don't know. Love scenes how to get his swagger back you did a little of that today for sure. I don't think you hold the players only meeting after a win to be honest cj ruby you know i think you go in the next week and you get ready for Chicago and i think if anything you know this might be one of those situations where you kind of fake it tell you make it. I think some positivity and some good vibes and even if even if things

1:10:12weren't great in that game you know just fake it like they were fake it like you got a big win and that things are trending in the right direction. I think this seems just needs a little bit of positivity. I think right now a player's only meeting after a win might be more negative than positive so i would say you know pretend like you got a big win go back work on the things that you can correct and try to go against Chicago next week at home with a little bit of momentum. I had Evan rated better as a safety last year the next i thought Evan was phenomenal last year and yeah the brewers are gonna lose this challenge but yeah i thought Evan was phenomenal last year i thought he was their best safety last year and he's carrying that over into this year as well. The entire team seems to be unwilling oh they did not lose the challenge. Good job by Bowers better either me. The entire team seems to be unwilling to just do their job just through your part so many mental mistakes. I talked about that on the pre game show definitely something they need to do better. Stavy on was not practicing yet i do believe i do believe he's going to

1:11:12practice this week and i do think there's a chance he's back for the Bears game we'll see though. Who's the most underrated player on the team? Is it my husband Evan Williams? I think we're finally getting to the point where Evan is no longer underrated he's getting properly rated by everyone i think everyone's seeing the impact that he's making so yeah i don't i don't think we need to say that he's underrated anymore. I don't know i don't know who is underrated at this point. Oh, Bowers strikes out they call it that he did not check his swing. Thought he did maybe didn't but Brewers go down again they have gone down in order now your four innings and the Padres remain up one nothing as we go to the top of the fifth. Just like guys are trying to hard which means exposing the ball playing out a position and trying to do too much. I agree. Senior Anthony again do your job do your one eleventh everyone just kind of needs to settle the heck down we talked about that quite a bit this week. I believe this team can beat the majority of the teams in this league. I would agree I also

1:12:15believe they can lose to the majority of the teams in this league so the rest is actually playing the games and figuring out what they do. I think they're and any given week they can probably beat. I think they can beat any of the teams. I really do. I think they can lose to any of the teams. I really do. What team shows up each week so far it's not been a great great start through four weeks. I would agree Dave definitely a little bit lucky to come away with a win giving that you gave you had two turnovers in the red area. I honestly didn't get a good feel for Hopper at all so that's one I'm going to have to pay a lot more attention to when I when I do the all 22. All right I think I got all the super chats. I do have a lot to get done. I want to enjoy a little bit of this brewers game as well. So I think I'm going to end there guys. I appreciate all the support. I appreciate all the super chats. I appreciate all the comments. I appreciate the thousand plus people in chat. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday should be fun. We've got brewers, Padres right now. Let's get a comeback going for the brewers. We've got a great slate of 3 p.m.

1:13:20games. All of them are pretty close at the moment and you know Sunday night football tonight. We can share against the Lions. We've got Sunday night baseball as well. I believe there's some hockey on so good night. Good day of sports. A lot of football on and of course we got a Packers victory already. Hopefully we can get brewers win as well. Enjoy the rest of your day. I will see you guys tomorrow full post game report after we watch the game and then live tomorrow with Mike Wall 1 p.m. Central time. So make sure you check out that as well. I'll see you all very very soon. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday and as always go pack though.