Mark Chapter 5: Bible Study by Atheists

0:00Welcome to Zachary Letters Discourse. For this is what the sovereign Lord says. Why do you need prophets to tell people who you are and what you want? If you can justify everything that the God of the Bible has done, then you can justify any of your behavior. A lot of this mentality is trickling into what is now mainstream right-wing Christianity. I am capable of empathy greater than this God of the Bible. This is a Bible that they tell kids. This is the Good Lord. This is the Good Book. This is he is fantasizing about murder, mass murder. And over to Zachary Letters Discourse.com right now to find out how to leave us a review or support us on Patreon. Hi, Stead! Why? Do you know what we're doing today? Well, last time we read Mark chapter 4. Sure it's fucking. And in that chapter, Jesus climbed into a boat.

1:01He's in a boat. I think I said it on the last bit. We're so far behind I didn't realize I was in the wrong chapter. I think but this time he literally climbed into the boat. Yeah. And you know preached from the lake or the sea or wherever the fuck they were. The sea. I think it was Mediterranean Sea, right? Is it the man? I don't think it's the Mediterranean Sea. Whatever, he's on the water somewhere. Doesn't matter. He's on the water. He is on the boat. Yeah. And he went over a bunch of fucking parables that we already heard about back in Matthew. Because Matthew's a copycat. We had like the parable of the sower and we had you know, the one where he grows the seeds and all the wrong places. There's the mustard seed, the smallest seed. All the wrong seeds and all the wrong places. And then Jesus like, you know, he made a storm stop. Because like, you know, Jesus is... Yeah, we're going down. Is Superman or something? I don't fucking know. But that was Mark chapter 4. It sure as fuck was. Yeah, which means that today we're going to be getting into. Chapter 5. All right, let's do this. Mark and his funky bunch. All right, let's do this. Oh, Kido.

2:09Oh my god, we're going to read about demons, you guys. Oh boy. Are you ready for this? I'm ready. We're going to read about... Chapter 5. Demons. Okay. They went across the lake. They were like, I'm so out of here. They went across the lake to the region of the geresonies. Geresonies. I don't know. I don't know if it's a hard G or a soft G. I'm sorry. Okay. Probably geresonies. When Jesus got out of the boat, um, boat, a boat, oh my god. I can't, I can't, I can't. It's a boat. Yeah, okay. Anyway, when Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an impure spirit came from the tombs to meet him. Fucking impure spirit from their fuckers. Dad, that's what always happens. Every time I get out of a boat, there's a man. This is where he kills the pigs. Does he kill the pigs here? I don't know. Maybe. I feel like this is where he kills the pigs. This man lived in the tombs and no one could bind him anymore. Not even with a chain. Oh, he's off the hook. Yeah, he's off the chain.

3:10Yeah. I bet it is. I bet you're right. But he had often been chained hand and foot. But he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. This is where they fucked up. They should have tied him around the torso also. And then the chains probably would have held him. Well, okay, not that I'm like advocating for murder, but they could have like dragged him to the lake and drowned out. Right. There's always that option. If he's just, if he's this bad, he just got out of the boat and this man comes up to him and he's clearly, you know, trouble. Right. Yeah. And he's been chained up before. But they never thought to like he's right by the lake. They never thought to drown him. Like again, not advocating for murder at all in any way whatsoever. But I'm just like within the rules of this story, it seems like also it seems like they describe him as like a giant. So I'm like, is he like an evil Nephilim guy? Right. Like he's half bad angel and half human.

4:11Sure. He's totally, he's bad. What regards? Yeah. Okay, no one was strong enough to subdue him, except for that couple of times that they were able to get him bound hand in foot. Right. Yeah, those times there, those were different stories. Right. But no one was strong enough to subdue him. It says, okay, night and day among the tombs and in the hills, he would cry out and cut himself with stones. I'm really sad. It sounds like he's troubled. Yeah, it sounds like he wasn't, yeah, or another evil like some harm. He probably had like mental health issue. Right. He probably just, yeah. When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. Oh, okay. Wow. He shouted at the top of his voice, what do you want with me? Jesus, son of the most high god and God's name, don't torture me. Why? Okay, I have a question. Okay. You're this really strong dude who can, you know, not get bound by chains and you're running around cutting yourself with stones, apparently. And the first thing you do when there's somebody who can maybe torture you

5:15because they're so powerful as you run up to them. Well, because they happen out of order. For Jesus had said to him, it continues. Okay, okay. So he runs up and he's like, oh my god, don't because before that, Jesus apparently had said, come out of this man, you limp your spirit. Oh, okay. So they said it out of order. So Jesus sees this guy over there, cutting himself up and he's like, get out of there. You bad spirit. You're so impure. And so then the man runs up to him and he's like, oh my god, and God's name don't torture me. Then Jesus asked him, what is your name? My name is Virgin. He replied, but we are many. Is that what it says? Yeah, my name is Legion. I was making sure. I was just making sure. And he begged Jesus again and again, not to send them out of the area. Oh, out of the area. So wait, now we're talking about the man in the plural. Right. Not to send them out of the area.

6:16Yeah. Yeah. A large herd of pigs. Oh, you were right. Yeah. A large herd of pigs was feeding on the nearby hillside. The demons, oh, this man had lots of demons inside of him. Just just for the record, it's according to Pauli on our discord, which we're doing our live discord tonight. So 10 p.m. Eastern every Tuesday, but it's Jera scenes. Oh, okay. So not Jera Sene. No. Okay. I don't know how I'm supposed to know that. Well, our discord tonight. I know I'm glad. It's just that I'm looking at it. And like a lot of a lot of like Latin and Greek, they would go with the Jera Sene. But this is Jera Sene. Right. So that's different. Yeah. I don't know. And I don't know how I can look at a G and know this off their hard. I won't remember. And that sounded dirtier than I intended. Ah, apparently. Also according to our discord in Matthew, this happened in Jadar while here it's in Jera Sene.

7:19Jera Sene. Or Jera Sene. Yeah. So different cities, but very similarly named. Right. So, um. And Matthew had two people and not one. I don't remember that. I thought it was. I think I did remember there was two on the Matthews. That's interesting contradictions. I find that like, that was fern. So thank you for the in the moment notification there. Because I do remember that somewhat now. Interesting. But yeah, that's kind of that's different. You know, considering this is the word of God and all. Right. Right. They always got it right. Yeah. So the demons that were inside the one big man, beg Jesus, send us among the pigs, allow us to go into them. Oh, they asked to be okay. All right. I do remember that when we were reading through Matthew, that somebody pointed out at the time, sorry about the spoilers, but when you get to mark, they do not ask to be. He just curses them into the pigs. Well, this is Mark. I said, Matthew. Oh, okay.

8:19Yeah. That they were saying in Matthew, sorry about the spoilers. I'm about to give you as you're reading Matthew, but in Mark, which you haven't started yet, but will be reading. He said he, they don't ask for, he doesn't ask for permission. Jesus just does it anyway. So I'm saying that backwards. That's why I was confused. Yeah. Okay. Anyways, he gave them permission and the impure spirits came out and went into the pigs. They heard about 2000 and number, 2000 pigs. Wow. That's a lot of pigs. Yeah. It feels like a lot more pigs than it was in the first story. It would, I don't know. I it seemed like it was a lot then too, but. Rush down the steep bank into the lake and we're drowned. Because that's what happens when you go in a lake. I'm just wondering like what did, like it's not real clear. Did Jesus make that happen? Or did the demons just decide to like kill all the pigs? I don't know. I feel like, I feel like the demons were like,

9:20oh, fuck. This son of God's about to torture us quick, run away. Let's drown and then we can go back to hell right quick. Right. I don't know. Yeah. Those tending the pigs ran off and reported this in the town and countryside. And the people went out to see what had happened. When they came to Jesus, they saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons sitting there dressed and in his right mind. Mm hmm. And they were afraid. I would be like, there wasn't the 2000 that pigs that did it. Right. But this guy that, you know, they sometimes could bind and sometimes not. That apparently kept mostly to himself that that freaked them out. Okay. I would be like, oh my God, you're okay. That's awesome. Right. Yeah. No, I like, you don't feel like cutting yourself up. I think I have a lot of questions for him. You know, like, wow. How did that feel having a legion of demons inside? What do they feel like to have all that taken away?

10:20Like, you know, you feel, you feel better now? How does that, you know, what, what's your thoughts on this? Right. Did you meet Elvis? Those who had seen it told the people what had happened to the demon possessed man and told about the pigs as well. Then the people began to plead with Jesus to leave their region. You and your demon. Pig killing ways. Pig killing ways. Get the fuck out of here, Jesus. Right. Yeah. As Jesus was getting into the boat, get back in the boat. The man who had been demon possessed begged to go with him. Oh. Wow. I don't recall that from Matthew. No, that didn't happen. This is nice. But Jesus did not let him because Jesus is a dick. I feel like that's a bad move actually because all these people are pissed off at him. Right. And who's going to receive that anger now but the guy who just cured the fucking demons? He said, Jesus did not let him go with him but said, go home to your own people and tell them how much the Lord has done for you

11:22and how he has had mercy on you. Wait, why is this guy allowed to tell people but other people aren't allowed to tell people? Because it's different about this. This town is nothing. Nobody gives a shit about the pig farmers. Okay. Pig farmers can fuck themselves. Right. That's what Jesus said. Right. Right. Right. I guess. Yeah, I don't know. So the man went away and began to tell in the decopolis. Remember that's the big city. The city of cities. Yeah. Wasn't 10 cities but it was supposed to be but then it wasn't. Sure. So that's why they call it Deca because it was going to be a collection of 10 but it didn't have 10. Right. How much Jesus had done for him and all the people were amazed. I just was this before or after they were pissed off of Jesus. Or was it different sets of people? Like I'm confused. I don't know. When were they amazed and how did he amaze them? Apparently this guy was a good, you know, Jesus message spreader person. Right. Because like, but not yet enough for any of them to show up at Jesus' child.

12:23Jesus was like, y'all don't like me. I'm out piece. I'm heading over to the boat. See you can stay though and explain how I'm good. Yeah. And make that work. Good to know. And this guy told the story and apparently made it work, you know. Except again, not good enough for them to show up at Jesus' child. Right. Where was where was the pig farmer then? Right. What happened to him after this? I bet he got killed. I bet he got killed. That's kind of how I feel like if this is the way it was going, I don't I don't feel like they would react in a good way. I feel like. I feel like it was really mean of Jesus not to let the pig farmer guy go with him. Yeah. Like I feel like that guy was like, oh my gosh, I feel so much better now. But these people only know me as the possessed guy that like was a monster. So could I just go with you now? Please. Right. Don't make me stay. Come on. Yeah. I'll never get a girlfriend here. I'm never going to get laid. Oh Jesus, come on. If I'm not going to get laid, couldn't I at least be a disciple or something?

13:24The right. Yeah. I want to sit on one of your right side or left side at the table. Yeah. Wait. Jesus is mean. Jesus is a gatekeeper. I don't care for him. Yeah, surely I'm better than that Judas guy. Right. You know, I wouldn't betray you. Right. That Judas guy, he's totally going to turn on you. Yeah, let him stay. Yeah. Right. You know what's going on? I feel like Jesus is an asshole. When Jesus had again crossed over by boat to the other side of the lake, the other other side. The lake was a lake. Okay. First he was on one side. Then he was on the other side. Now he's on the other other side. Okay. Okay. Yeah. A large crowd gathered around him while he was by the lake. So the people on this side of the lake liked him. Just not that other side. Not the other side. Okay. Then one of the synagogue leaders named Jarris, Jarris, Jarris, Jarris, came. Yeah, he did. And when he saw Jesus, he fell at his feet. He pleaded earnestly with him. My little daughter is dying.

14:25Please come and put your hands on her so that she will be healed and live. Okay. So this is the part where he brings the girl back to life. You know, the way he always does. Right. Right. So Jesus went with him. A large crowd followed and pressed around him. And a woman who was there who had been subject to bleeding for 12 years. I forgot about her. The eternally bleeding woman, remember? Yeah. That was sad. She had suffered a great deal under the care of many doctors. And it's been all she had, yet instead of getting better, she grew worse. When she heard about Jesus, she came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak because she thought, if I just touch his clothes, I'll be healed. Yeah. Immediately her bleeding stopped. And she felt in her body that she was free from her suffering. It's crazy. Everybody with endometriosis ought to be up in arms that this is not a thing. I watched this little video today that, oh, it pissed me off. This is such a man's world and I hate it.

15:27There are more studies about a rectile dysfunction than about things like breast milk and endometriosis. And, you know, because men are, you know, in charge. Right. And they care more about making their fucking dicks work. So they can fuck, fuck, fuck. That's what it's all about. Money and fuck, money and fuck, money to fuck, money. So fuck, fuck, fuck. Right. Literally, that's all men fucking care about in this world. Money so I can fuck, money to fuck, money more fuck. Like why? Why? Why is that the most important thing? It must be so, it must, that 30 seconds, must feel so great that you're like in heaven. And, like, I just, I can't understand. I cannot understand how, how heavenly that must feel that that's all you can fucking think about is fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fucking, fuck, fuck. I have to fuck. I need more money so I can fuck.

16:27Right. Like otherwise, why don't we- We are definitely not going to get this like- But why don't we- Monatize on YouTube. Why don't we have more studies for things besides fixing a man's dick? Why is a man's dick the most important fucking medical study on the planet? Yeah. If a man hasn't felt the pain, the pain ain't real. Nothing counts unless a penis has endured it. Like, fuck off, god. And then people are like, what is such a man heater? Because this is why, this is why, right here. All right, anyways, I apologize for going off. But honestly, fuck your fucking erectile dysfunction, okay? Anyways. At once, Jesus realized that power had gone out from him. He turned around in the crowd and asked, who touched my clothes? He said, like, I feel like that's okay. That's how I would say it. If somebody was creeping up on me and touching my stuff. Right, right.

17:27You see the people crowding against you, his disciples answered. And yet you can ask who touched me. But Jesus kept looking around to see who had done it. Okay. I feel like they're like, there's a whole fucking crowd. How are you going to know? And why do you care? But also he's the son of God. And like, he can stop weather patterns, apparently. But he can't tell who touched his goddamn cloak. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I call bullshit. Right. This is a parable. Right. Sure. Then the woman, knowing what had happened to her, came and fell out his feet. And trembling with fear told him the whole truth. I was bleeding, but then I stopped. Okay. I don't know if that's what she said. I just made that up. Oh, uh. He said to her daughter, your faith has healed you. Well, I mean, it was her faith because she's like, if I could just touch even a part of them, she did have faith. That's different from some of the other people who merely like, like the man who was brought there by his friends. Yeah. And he was healed for his friends faith.

18:27And his friends got nothing. Yeah, that was BS. Right. At least this woman actually legitimately had faith. It was misplaced. If I touch his cloak. So I feel like this is a little bit unfair. Right. Like these people in this time that are coming to Jesus, right? Because that's the whole metaphor, right? We're all coming to Jesus. They're finding Jesus. They're accepting Jesus, etc, etc, etc. Right. But these people are literally hearing and hypothetically seeing stories, seeing things happen that this guy is doing, such as, you know, putting demons in 2000 pigs and they all die. Such as healing multiple people and whatever. All these things are happening all over the fucking place and stories are supposedly spreading all over, right? So having that faith, having that come to Jesus moment in this time feels real fucking easy. Right. Like if you're hearing all this and this is actually happening and you believe it's actually happening, then having quote unquote faith at that moment is so much

19:32less of an extreme thing than it would be today. It's not a mountain. They didn't have to climb the mountain at all. Because we have no direct correlation of this person's healing. We're going to come to this person and accept him as our savior. That is not happening. That doesn't actually happen. We hear people say that they talk to God and that Jesus guides them and things like that. But there is no direct action happening. Okay, but look, even with all of that shit happening at the very end of Matthew, we still get somebody said they worshiped but they still, some of them still didn't believe. So no, I absolutely, there you go. Right. Yeah. I mean to me, that's what I'm saying. And that's what bothers me through all these stories. I can't see how someone could sit here and witness all the hypothetically witness all these things. Right. And then not still believe. Right. Yeah. Like if that is actually the case, then you would definitely believe if he stopped fucking weather patterns to be healed people in front of you.

20:35Like these things are not things you would deny. They're not small. Right. They're pretty fucking big. Unless there was something deniable about them, right? Which is more likely the case. Right. Like never happened or happened, but not that way. Right. Yeah. I don't know. The story got changed along the way. Yeah. But anyway, Jesus told this chick, daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace and be freed from your suffering. Yay. So that was a good story. Sure. While Jesus was still speaking, some people came from the house of Jarris, the cynicog leader. Your daughter is dead, they said. Why bother the teacher anymore? Oh. So while he was talking to, you know, cloak lady. Yeah. About her bleeding situation. So the person I, yeah, the person, the girl that he was on his way to see she died. Right. Overhearing what they said, Jesus told him, don't be afraid. Just believe he did not let anyone follow him

21:36except Peter James and John the brother of James. Okay. So we got our small crew. The personal secret crew. Right. Yeah. Tootsie gang or OG. Sure. Like, I don't know his inner crowd. When they came to the home of the synagogue leader, Jesus saw a commotion with people crying. And well, wailing loudly. Have you wailed quietly? I don't, I don't know. I'm I'm sure there's a way you can do it, you know, doesn't quietly and wailing or don't they not go together? One would think, but wailing to me is by its very nature, not quiet. Right. Right. I don't know. That's just the word nerd in me. Sure. Anyway, Jesus went in and said to them, why all this commotion and wailing, the child is not dead, but asleep. Do. But they laughed at him after they were wailing and now they're laughing. Yeah. Okay. They were laughing at him because he's like, why y'all cry and stupid?

22:37Okay. And they're like, um, hear the one is stupid. She's dead, dumb dumb. So after he put them all out, get the fuck out. You don't know what you're talking about. You dummies. You ever wonder if he just knew really good CPR methods or something? Maybe that was what was after he put them all out. He took the child's father and mother and the disciples who were with them, you know, a secret crowd. Yeah. And went in where the child was. He took her by the hand and said to her, tell it the comb, which means little girl, I say to you, get the fuck up. Okay, just get up. Not get the fuck up. Right. Anyway, he said tell it the comb, which means little girl, I say to you, get up. Get on up. Okay. Immediately the girl stood up and began to walk around. She was 12 years old. Immediately. Yeah. Okay. But in parentheses, she was 12 years old. Sure. Because that's important for some reason. Yeah. At this, well, that's why he called her a little girl. Right. At this, they were completely astonished. He gave strict orders, not to let anyone know about this.

23:39Oh, this one we can't tell anybody. Yeah, don't tell anyone. You can't tell anybody about the resurrecting from the dead. Right. But because the human guy, that one's okay. Because the resurrecting from the dead, that's going to totally spoil when I do it later. Like this dumb bitch over here. Like don't tell anybody. We can't have anybody else come back from the dead. I'm the one that comes back. I know. It's just me. But the demon thing, yeah, totally. Go tell it. Go tell it on the mountain. Those are the hills and far away. Go tell it on the mountain. Jesus Christ is born. I feel like it's the small crowd. It's another song. Yes, I do know that. You did. Yeah, I feel like this is the small crowd because this never actually happened. The doll. And yeah, so. Right. And they just created the story in their spare time. They're like, hey, let's just tell this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Remember in Romeo and Juliet where there was like a medicine guy that had fake

24:41die medicine that really it only put you to sleep? Yeah. But then there was also poison. And that's how they both died. Because they were like, oh, no, you poison yourself. I'm going to poison myself too, even though we just met and we're both just 14. You're dead. I'm dead. I'm going to dead. Dier than you. And then they dead at each other. They did. Because they're so dumb. Yeah, kids are dumb. And then, um, yeah, but anyway, what I'm saying is, I mean, that was the 1400s, right? Sure. Yeah. When they, when those Shakespearey things were happening, right? So I mean, we probably had something like that. Yeah, some kind of fake medicine. Back when Jesus was around, that would make you look dead for a little bit. Right. They were like, oh, no, the girl died. Maybe she was just trying to get out of some chores or something, you know? I don't know. She probably did not want to marry Romeo. That could be. I could, that could be. She didn't, I bet she was engaged to the pig farmer.

25:42She didn't like when he's got Legion inside of him. God damn it. Don't make me marry the, the pig farmer with the fucking demons. Right. Okay, at this, they were completely astonished. They gave strict orders not to allow anyone about this, not to let anyone know about this and told them to give her something to eat the end. This girl just skinny. That is, yeah, that what a weird way to end that chapter. Right. Right. Give her something to eat. She hungry. I know. She was just dead. That makes it, she's a zombie. She's a zombie. It makes it seem so much less real because it's like a tryhard. You know, like they're like, what would the normal thing somebody would do when they just woke up from being dead be? She needs coffee. They're gonna be, they're gonna be hungry, right? Like it's not enough that they raised her from the dead. We can't tell anybody and she needs something to eat. And coffee. And then everybody needs to know later, but like, you know, much later. Right. I don't know.

26:42Maybe 70 years later. Right. Yeah. You know, we, when we write this down, I don't know. No, it's such a bullshit story. I mean, to me, it's like you need to feed her and keep her fed because she's a zombie. And if she ever gets hungry, I'm not saying she will, but she might, she might bite your finger off. Right. Maybe that's what that could be why it's that important. Uh-huh. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Okay. He's like, look, I'm not telling you she's gonna eat people. I'm not telling you she's a zombie. Okay. So hold on. I am however telling you she does need to eat a real amount of different. I'm kidding. So the zombie apocalypse actually is going to happen when Jesus comes back. Yeah. Okay. Because Jesus doesn't bring back people. He brings back zombies. The fuck? Right. Well, I guess we know what happens. I mean, it is kind of creepy. Yeah. Right. Um, you got anything else to add? I'm fucking off. Okay. Well, that was that was Mark chapter five.

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