Jaguars Happy Hour | Analyzing Early Signings & Colts Offseason Plans

0:00And now a guy who comes in like a lion, but goes out like, well, another lion, but with less hair. J.P. Shatter. Welcome in. It is Jaguar's happy hour. J.P. Shadrick, Jeff Loughgeman from the Hyundai Studios of the Miller Electric Center Test Drive. A new Hyundai today, only your local Hyundai dealer. Here's what's coming up six days to free agency. We're inside a week to the 2026 Lee Year beginning officially. That's Wednesday at 4 o'clock. There's a tampering period. We'll get to that. Coming up in just a few moments. Some Jaguar's possibilities. Question mark. I don't know if you're going to be too many of them. We'll see what logs thinks about that NFL storylines as well on what has been busy your

1:03time now inside a week to free agency around the NFL. We're on Tension XL AM Jaguars.com and Jaguars YouTube on this Thursday afternoon, J.P. Shadrick, Jeff Loughgeman, good afternoon, Jeffrey afternoon, J.P. You know, I can remember in years past, we would always get so excited about the prospect of free agency because you know, the reality is is that bad teams always look to that for hope. And when teams play well, like this football team played well this past fall, you're like, okay, it's free agency. It's like, okay, hopefully get some good players, but you're not sitting there hanging on every piece of information that you can possibly get because you feel like you're going to be good regardless of what happens in free agency. And there's been a season around here where you're bringing in first wave big money guys that, you know, sometimes don't work out. That's not the way you win. I mean, it's, you know, look, I think last year, if you go back and you look at the last

2:06two years of free agency for this organization, last year, all of the free agents, I think, cost as much as the previous year's haul of two free agents. I mean, it dramatically different when it comes to contractual cumulative total in free agency from last year to the previous years. But I mean, look, I mean, the reality is when you're not good, that's the hope that gets provided to a fan base. Hey, look, hey, look, we're doing one. We're trying to get better. We're getting better. Look, see? And then you didn't get better. You know, this past year, you didn't spend a lot of money and everybody was like, eh, well, they got better. You know, that haven't spent a whole lot of money. And I think the bigger story right now is the players that might not be coming back to the Jaguars. So we've beaten this to death clearly. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to try to see it again. I just, I go back to that and I say that, you know, well, we'll see, you know, I mean, I think it's people sometimes have, they jump to conclusions and they think that as

3:09a foregone conclusion, people jump to conclusions, come on, Jeff, that's impossible. And in sports, you know, look, when you talk about it, that's kind of what sports talk can be. I mean, you know, the reality is, is that, look, you don't have to sign guys before the free agent's period starts to have an interest in retaining players. I've said that before. And I think sometimes it's actually good that you can let the player see the market. And then also, I think everybody that's involved in this has got a plan. I mean, I, I believe wholeheartedly and James Gladstone's approach that he's got a plan on how to handle if for some reason they lose players that they have a plan to be able to replace them. And look, the draft capital that they have also is going to have a major impact on all of that. And, and the players that they had last year that were unable to contribute last year will have an impact this year as well.

4:11Right. Taylor Rand saw, right? It was unavailable all season one. Travis Hunter. Come on down. Come on down. Come on down. So, I mean, there's going to be an influx in those type of players as well. So, I'm looking forward to free agency just because I want to see what the approach is. I expect it to be similar to last year, but I don't think the numbers, you know, the, the sheer number of players acquired are going to be as large as last year. You know, last year they did a great job of completely remaking the offensive line room. And I think in some cases you're going to have to remake your defensive backfield a little bit. Really did that last year too, but yeah. And, and I think defensive lines going to get some extra attention as well. So it's going to be fun because it's, look, we're all fans and we want to see what happens next, but we're not, we're not clinging to this upcoming class as a, as a way to have hope for the organization.

5:12Oh, thank you. Which is a big difference. I mean, it's a way better place to be. I mean, and let's be honest, in, it is fairly rare to have a free agent sign player turn into a franchise player for his second team, right? And be like that guy. There was a run, obviously, but it happens. It does happen. The latest Campbell was that guy. That was a home run free agent signing, right? That whole class, like those guys were different. And I'm like Jackson was one of those guys too. Came in really good player, you know, that's 2017. That's a long time ago, about 10 years ago now. It doesn't have it all. Last year, there's a handful of those guys. Jordan Lewis is one of those guys. Comes in. He was with Dallas forever and comes to a different place. And you know what he is and he was a fantastic signing in the, one of the old heads in that cornerback room. To have. So there will be just a few names. There's a handful of those types that are available. I mean, you can find them, but I mean, look, you got to, you got to be good at your job.

6:12You know, I mean, you know, that's why, you know, that's what I, one of the reads I also why I love the, the structure of how the organization is and that you have an EVP, you have a general manager, you have a coach, coach you coach, you know, get the most out of your players and, and make them the best that they can possibly be and general manager, get us players. Get us all the best players you can. Don't worry about all the other operational aspects of the organization because our EVP, a football operations, Tony Becelli is going to handle that. You know, so now we can have people focus in on their job, focus on player acquisition, focus on coaching. Okay. Now, Tony focuses in on handling the staff and the operational status of the football team. You know, I love the, I love the design and I love the setup. And after this team's success last year, we're, we're starting to see other teams try to mirror the same thing that have made changes this year in the all season to try to mirror

7:13the same thing. James Gladstone season is upon us now for the Jaguars. This is, yeah, this is his season. Brian, this is it. This is absolutely it from here through the draft. We're on 10 to make sale, AM Jaguars.com Jaguars YouTube, it is Jaguars happy hours, AP Shadrick with Jeff Loughlin coming up shortly. We'll hear from Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence. They had a sit down with Bucky Brooks that hit earlier this week on Jaguars YouTube. We'll hear some highlights of that also at around 430. The voice of the Indianapolis Colts Matt Taylor will get his take on what's going on with the quarterback room and Indianapolis. That's all coming up. The Jaguars did make a resigning this week. They agreed to terms with tied in, tied in Quentin Morris entering now his fifth and half L season in 2026, role player on offense, blocking mainly, special teams, more special team snaps than offensive snaps, but there was a moment there. I think he started five games this year and contributed a big way in the run game. I was, and I think I mentioned this during the fall is that what I loved about the change

8:15and in the way that this organization operated during the season is that you had players that earned the right to wear a helmet on game day. Quentin Morris was one of those guys that, look, he worked his way into earning the helmet on game day to the point where one of your big free agent acquisitions, Hunter Long got hurt, comes back, declared ready to go. Well, he ended up staying off to the side because Quentin Morris was playing well and was fulfilling the roles that was asked of him at a very high level, excellent blocker, capable receiver, very good special teams player. And it was a situation where he earned the right to have the helmet on game day and it wasn't a matter of, well, you know what, we got to get our free agent out on the field and get him active because, you know, we signed him in free agency and he was a big acquisition.

9:15And out of Quentin Morris, you know, let's just make him in active because it makes me as a general manager look bad if I've got that guy playing over my free agent acquisition. That's the kind of the way he felt like it was before. And so I think that he was a symbol, I think, in a lot of ways for what was right about this organization this past year, played very well, worked his rear end off, played hard, and yeah, I mean, keeping him around, I don't think it's going to cost a lot of money. But you want to keep that skill set around because he was definitely one that added to the game day possibilities and to see him step in there and execute some of the similar blocking schemes that Britain Strangels able to do, I mean, let him off the right tackle, go into the left and, I mean, I don't know what that's called, was that a whack job? There you go, yeah, it's right for lack of a better term. He was putting a defender into the horizontal position, that's right.

10:18Which is what we call the dead roach position. And Quentin Morris did quite a few of those throughout the course of the year. And you know, and I appreciate him, and he gave you everything he had and every capacity that he had. And I remember watching him in camp and I was going, you know, when I first saw him and I was like, you know, it was just kind of a, maybe a number. Yeah. And then you started to watch him get better and get better and get better. And then on game day, he was able to kind of elevate his game to another level. And it was like, wow, okay. You know, here's a guy that is making you take notice because of his play on special teams. And then when he got on the field as an offensive player, he took advantage of those opportunities and did an excellent job blocking. And then all sudden, he started to have some plays that were designed for him because I think the offensive staff does a great job of kind of catching defenses off guard and thrown it to a guy who's kind of a known aim sometimes catches the defense off guard.

11:23And they were able to take advantage of it. He's a very capable wide receiver as well. Yeah. He's touched down the last game of the season against Tennessee, which was like, that was a design play for him. I mean, that's cool stuff. Cool stuff. And I think that just goes to show you the confidence also that the coaching staff had him. And reports are that it's a one year deal for upwards of $3 million. Yeah. We can see a handful of those kind of things come back into play even before free agency begins. That's not far fetched at all. Yeah. Some of those role player. Yes. It's not. I mean, I consider that a really good deal. I mean, he's a, he's a role player and, you know, obviously players that are not full time starters that are role players and special teams players. I mean, that's, that's a good, good price, I think, in my opinion. Yeah. I'm sorry. I just like that they have them back. You know, what I mean, obviously, you don't want to pay him $10 million. But I like the fact that he's coming back because I like what he brings to the offense.

12:29Not only that role player ability, but there's an attitude that he kind of plays the game with. Now, it's not quite Brent and Strange, okay? Because Brent and Strange attitude wise is like in the upper stratosphere of players. I mean, one of those ultimate competitor guys. But Quint Morris is, you know, he's, you know, when you see it on tape, he's up there, but not quite where Brent and Strange is at. I like it. Back in a moment, Trevor Lawrence and Liam Cohen sat down with Bucky Brooks this week. The full interview at Jaguars.com and Jaguars. YouTube will hear some of the highlights when we come back and then about 430, the voice of the Indianapolis Colts, Matt Taylor on what the heck is going on in the quarterback room and ending. We'll find out in just a little bit. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Hey.

13:29Hey. Okay. Okay. How I'm going to make it to the moment like everyone talks about, they went viral since an ad. I don't think you can kind of bounce back from that without having a bond that like, hey, we really respect one another and so what happens in the moment happens. How do you feel about that interaction and how you, if we're able to bounce back? They'd already had a few of those by then. So it wasn't really something too new for, you know, it would just happen in a game. I want to push you to try to be the best version of yourself and that's on every single throw, a five yard throw and a 20 yard comeback and continuously trying to push that envelope and when you've got a guy who starts with humility in terms of how he operates, he's not going to back down to hard coaching. Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence sitting down with Bucky Brooks earlier this week. Hit on Jaguars YouTube Jaguars.com. Welcome back.

14:29It is Jaguars Happy Hour from the Hyundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center. 10 to the next L AM Jaguars.com Jaguars YouTube. Glad you're along with us as the off season rolls along inside a week until the start of the 2026 Lee year. That's Wednesday at four o'clock. Pre-agency begins then a lot going on there. But hey, good to hear from Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence together. Bucky did a great job with the conversation this week and just check out the whole thing, but their relationship just continued to blossom as this season went along. No, I think that moment was pretty interesting though, right? I remember when it happened and I was like, okay, yeah, I like that, you know, because the reason I said I like it is that everybody should be coached hard. I mean, quarterbacks, offensive linemen, defensive backs, linebacks, doesn't matter. I mean, everybody should be respected and coached hard. And I think a lot of people, when they saw that, they were like, oh, there might be a

15:30little something between the coach and the quarterback here. You know, wait a minute. I mean, he's just trying to get the quarterback better. And I love the fact that Trevor was like, you know, whatever, waiting at all. You know, because I mean, look, I mean, sometimes you've got to be able to have a little bit of tough skin sometimes to be that guy. And so I appreciated that moment and when I saw it, I was like, okay, we've got a head coach that's not afraid to coaches rear end off and is not afraid to make maybe somebody uncomfortable to demand and expect more. But it's a two-way street as well. The player has to be accepting of that hard coaching and Trevor Lawrence was asked about that as the season went along. I know somewhere in the middle of the year, there was this conversation that you guys have. And I think it was right before Arizona game where you encouraged him to let it rip from a quarterback. What does he like to have someone say, man, just go play and don't worry about the mistakes

16:33in those things. You could ask any quarterback and that's what they would want. Is that freedom? You know, kind of clicked a little bit with me, I'm like, all right, just forget it, you know, quit trying to be perfect, just go out and play and actually had a bunch of turnovers that game. But we had another conversation after the game and we ended up winning obviously. It was never ignoring the bad, but it was always trying to focus on the positives and just get better at the things that we need to work on. And so that approach really helped me just, you know, make the play that's there, play within yourself, just trust yourself and, you know, it all happened out of the way it's supposed to. Yeah, let it rip and he did for three interceptions in that game against Arizona. Jags ended up winning the game, but that went a long way to the stretch run and the winning streak to wrap up the season. Now, now don't lie to me, okay, because at halftime what we thinking, thinking about everybody else's thinking like, what the hell is going on? It's not, it's not Broadway, it should be going. But you know, I think somewhere in the back of my mind in that game and because I remember

17:33just going, this is just not going well, but a lot of them were not his fault, right? It was like tip balls or weird things. But you're thinking that maybe that's going to impact him as he's going forward because it's still happening, you know, it's still happening to him. But then I was thinking back to the playoff game against the chargers at home and I said to myself, he can do it, he can do it. But he's got to be mentally tough and I think that that moment right there showed that chargers got a mental toughness about him and also took some of the words to heart from his head coach about just let it rip, you know, and that's, and to be honest with you, the Trevor wasn't letting it rip prior to that game. He was thinking way too much. I mean, you'd sit there and watch throws and you could kind of tell his eyes were there, but then he wouldn't trust it. And he would like to go in and make the throw and then the throws late because he wasn't

18:36real in the commit, you know, and sometimes you again, it's let it rip, commit, whatever you want to call it, just play. Sometimes it's just got you got to play sometimes free of just react to what you see. You prepare all week and to make the right decisions and then sometimes you just got to get into that, into that mode where it's no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's just, it's just happening. And uh, and that was, yeah, and that was, that was a cool game for Trevor. It was a fun game for Trevor and it really was a turning point. I mean, that was a big, big moment for this football team this past year, especially for him. The off season conversations that they had, obviously, you know, Liam Cohen is hired and they've got to get to know each other and, and figure out each other's personality. Can't talk football in the off season right until the program begins, but um, those conversations

19:41will even talk ball, which can't talk. You can't do X's enough. Yeah, you can't be in there, you know, teaching X's and those again plans, but that building of relationship early just continued that set of foundation for what happened, what we've been talking about, the, the back and forth, the give and take, hard to do that when you don't have respect or some kind of relationship that is the baseline of all that. Well, and you got to have a lot of faith, right? I mean, it's kind of a two way street having faith in it. A quarterback, you got to have faith in it. Coach has given you information that's going to help make you the best player and the coach got to have faith that the player can develop in something that you envision. And that's not easy to have. I think when you're talking about two people that don't really know each other. And so, I mean, and I think that that's a process. You know, I don't think that that's something that just magically happens. I think that things of that nature are, are earned over the course of time and sometimes you got to have a little bit of luck with all of that as well.

20:42And I mean, it'll continue to grow too. We're only barely a year into that relationship, right? I mean, look, I mean, the growth process is never ending. And, you know, even though Trevor Lawrence is what years is for him coming up? Six, six, coming into year six. I mean, five, six, either way. I think we're, he's got many years of continuing to get better. I mean, I don't think a quarterback hits his peak until he's starting to approach double digits. Year six, yeah, into playing. And so I think there's a lot to learn. And especially a lot to learn in the offense. Look, there's, you know, a tremendous amount that he's learned by playing defenses. And, you know, the defenses are all, I don't want to say the same, but I mean, there's always new wrinkles, et cetera. But the ability to come back in year two of the offense and to really own it. I think it's going to be big for Trevor and the head coach going forward because now of a sudden he's been immersed in this offense for now going into year two.

21:42So now he can reach back into the memory bank and pull experiences out as he moves forward into helping shape this offense and to what they both envision. And the stability around him on the coaching staff as well. I mean, there were interviews for Yudensky. He ended up not going anywhere. And, you know, that won't last forever if the success continues, but it's good to have that continuity in other years. And that's that J.P. That's me and you've talked about this and that we talked about this before. Liam Cohn was hired. I mean, it's one of the reasons why you in a perfect world, if you're looking to hire a head coach, you want to have a head coach that has his background in offense because you want to have consistency with your staff regardless of who gets the next job and the NFL head coaching world. You know, that's why like Andy Reed, offensive guru, offensive mind,

22:43if they lose their coordinator, do you really care? No, Andy's calling the players anyway. In fact, they've lost coordinators and let them go coordinators move on to become head coaches and then brought some of them now back in Eric Biannamy. You know, but here's the consistent part, Andy Reed. You know, and that's kind of the same thing with, you know, Liam Cohn. I mean, so look, eventually you're probably going to lose a grant you Densky, you know, and you're may end up losing a defensive coordinator at some point. But you know, that's one of the reasons why you also build your staff and continue to have an influx of more coaching talent so that when some goes out the door, you're having some of these next guys that you've trained just step up. We've got plenty ahead when we come back logs. We're going to go to Indianapolis and like physically, no, no, no, no, we're going to listen to an interview from Indianapolis.

23:43I was physically there last week, beam me up. How many bars did you hit by the bars? Yeah, Indianapolis, you've got some great bars. Yeah, they do a handful. Yeah, that's not a criticism. And that's actually a compliment. That's what you do networking at the combine. Did you get some trim cocktail, you know, one night I did. That's totally a must. It's very good. And that's where a lot of business gets done in the lead during combine. Oh, there's a lot of things to get done at that restaurant. We're back at a moment. We'll hear from Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts. What's going on in the quarterback room? What are the prospects in the off season for Indy? We'll hear about the division rival when we come back. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour. Welcome back. It is Jaguar's Happy Hour on this Thursday. J.P. Shadrick, Jeff Logwin. We're at the Hyundai Studios of the Miller Electric Center 10 to the XLAM Jaguars.com Jaguars YouTube free agency less than a week away. Combine is in the rear view. The Jaguar's leadership did not attend.

24:45The Jaguars did, though. That was the conversation of last week, of course. Nearly 40 credential Jaguar's employees were in Indianapolis doing the work. That has always been done. And also in Indianapolis last week, a very busy radio row. I think it's the busiest we've seen since we've been going since 2013. Keep adding tables on radio row. But it's a good time to catch up with everybody around the league. And especially in the AFC South and each week, we'll have a conversation with the voice of each team in this division. This week, the Indianapolis Colts and announcer Matt Taylor. And there's a lot going on in Indy now. We'll start with a quarterback situation. From an organization that had Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck back to back. To since then, all these changes are quarterback. How does it get settled back down? Is the answer on this rush? Yeah, I think so. I mean, what they got from Daniel Jones, I think, exceeded even the most optimistic fans,

25:47expectations for last year. I mean, Daniel Jones was the new guy. But to give him credit, there's been a lot of new guys for the Colts. And what he did coming in in a short amount of time after being picked up in free agency last March, he really did a nice job of connecting with everybody inside the organization, especially the guys inside the locker room. Really galvanized the room, went way above and beyond in terms of connecting with all the different parts of the roster. And so guys wanted to play for him. The guys really bought into who he was personality wise. And so for the first 10 games of the season last year, when he and everybody else on offense was healthy, you saw it do some really impressive things. Now the naysayers to that will say, well, look at who the Colts played. I think there's some credence to that. However, the Colts were beaten the crap out of bad teams. And that's what you're supposed to do to bad teams, right? They won a bunch of games by 20 plus points.

26:50And they were kind of on cruise control in the first 10 games of the year when they were eight and two and leading the offense or leading the NFL in offense and basically everything. You know, scoring about 33 points per game, their average in almost 400 yards and not to get two in the weeds because it's kind of analytical. But I mean, their points per possession was over three, like well over three. And that's kind of a nerdy stat, but that just kind of points to how efficient they were. And those first 10 games. And then he experiences the the fracture fibula in Germany. The offense wasn't the same. Then it gets hurt, you know, or goes out injured altogether with the torn Achilles in Jacksonville in week 14. And then the season just spiraled out of control. They had a bunch of injuries on defense, too, which I'm sure we'll talk about. But I do think that Jones is the long term answer in the short term. He's coming off a season, you know, a torn Achilles late in the season. So where is he going to be? Is he going to be ready for the start of training camp at the earliest?

27:52I think that's what you're looking at. But I think when you trade two first round picks for sauce gardener in the middle of the season of the trade deadline, when you're eight and two, that's sent two messages. One, it was we're all in. We like where we're at. And if we give away two first round picks, we like what we have in quarterback and Daniel Jones. Anthony Richardson done. It's going to be tough. I mean, it's it's if you ask me right now in mid February, you know, to describe the hierarchy of the depth chart at quarterback. I mean, right now you got to start with Jones. And even that, we don't know because he hasn't signed yet. And then you got Riley Leonard, who came in in the second half of that Jacksonville game played pretty well. Got the start week 18 in Houston and played about a half against the Houston's starting defense and played pretty well. All things considered. And then you've got Anthony Richardson. There's a lot of unknowns there. I mean, first of all, he's only started 15 games. He's got the eye injury on top of all the other injuries that he's experienced in the

28:55first two plus years in the NFL. He's been benched. So I think the biggest thing is, you know, we're going to hear from Shane Steichen and Chris Ballard later on today as we sit here and talk now. Hopefully we'll get more clarity on where he's at from this eye injury thing that flew pregame warmup injury that he had in week six before a home game against the Cardinals. Where is he at from that? And the Colts also have a decision to make on his fifth year option by May 1st. That's a big component in this as well. But yeah, it's, I mean, to say there's uncertainty surrounding a top five pick is, is an understatement considering all the success they had last year with Daniel Jones as the starting quarterback when he beat out Anthony Richardson when they had that true open competition at quarterback Taylor with his voice of the Colts. How much shelf shelf life is left in the offensive line and the running game for Andy? I think a lot, you know, I mean, they got a big decision to make at right tackle with Braden Smith. He's a free agent. He's been a mainstay at that spot since 2018 started over a hundred games.

29:57But, you know, as you know, JP, you got to make tough calls. And you sometimes you just got to move on from, from good players because, you know, the math doesn't line up. So when you could, you could potentially be looking at having to pay your starting quarterback next year, depending on how this goes with Daniel Jones over $40 million. And then Alec Pierce is a free agent as well. So it's not hyperbole to say that the Colts have maybe two of the biggest free agents going into this offseason period on the same team, you know, maybe the best free agent quarterback and maybe the best free agent wide receiver. So I don't know if you can afford to pay your quarterback 40 plus million dollars and have two receivers making $20 plus million when you factor in Michael Pittman, Jr. in there as well. But I think the offensive lines got a lot of good life in it. I think Jonathan Taylor still does too. And that's the frustrating thing about Jonathan Taylor last year is he had another otherworldly statistical type season over 1500 yards, especially in the first 10 games and everybody was healthy on offense, but they didn't make the playoffs.

31:00So it just goes to show you that Taylor special, but it can't be all about Taylor. It can't be all about the running game in order for him to be really efficient and to hit those big home runs and rip off the long runs. He's got to have the passing game, which the Colts didn't have when Daniel Jones was compromised. Matt Taylor with us last couple of questions here. Let's go to the defensive side. You mentioned the injuries. What's your greatest concern moving ahead about this Colts defense? It's the past rush. You know, last offseason, they really went big and addressing the secondary, especially in free agency, can bind them to play safety, charvaryous war to play corner, war dealt with a lot of concussions. In fact, three of them throughout the season played a career low seven games. So it was a great bold move on paper to go out and execute that, that contract in free agency just didn't pay off dividends. Same thing with sauce garden. They didn't stop there at the trade deadline. Like I said, you bring in sauce gardener, a premium player playing a premium position. That doesn't pay off big dividends because he comes up with a

32:01calf injury, misses most of the back half of the season or at least, you know, most of the end of the season after he was traded for. But so long-winded way of saying, I think stability wise, at least on paper, the secondary is in a good spot. We'll see, but they got to do something about the past rush. They have to find more consistency and God loved to for his buckner. He's one of the best players in his position in the NFL, but you can't have your best past rush. Your play defensive tackle like it just can't happen. And the Colts have three in-house free agents at defensive end, Quittie Paye, Samson Abacom, and Ty Quant Lewis. The reality there is those three guys last year combined for nine sacks. They just have to have more and without a first round pick, I think the only viable way to do it to be impactful for next year is to go out and overspend in free agency. So that you have to factor that into it too when you talk about Jones and Pierce and how you spend your money there. But I think you have to spend in free agency at defensive end. We're also trying to supplement that spot in the draft, too.

33:04Both teams, Colts, Jaguars, no first round pick. So what are we doing on Thursday of the draft? I don't know. Yeah, we go to beat Ubs. Beat halfway. I don't know what that is. Maybe like Atlanta or Nashville or something, but yeah, I'm open if you're if you're available. That's Matt Taylor voice of the Indianapolis Colts and a lot to get to their JP Shadrick Jeff Logham back with you. Of course, that interview was recorded last Tuesday at the combine at Radio Row in Indianapolis. There have been some changes since then for the quarterback situation. Daniel Jones, the Colts put the transition tag on it. So basically, Colts had the first rider refusal. If they get a competing offer sheet, he could sign with an industry club, but that means the Colts can match it. If he doesn't sign a compensation, if he saw, if he, if he's, you know, so if he signed with another club and I choose not to match, there's no compensation. That's right. He'd be gone, but it gives him the first rider refusal. And if he doesn't get a competing offer sheet, then he gets almost $38

34:04million next year from the Colts is the transition tag. Correct. Yes. Yeah, which is significantly less than the franchise tag. What's the other season? You know, look, and it'll be interesting. I mean, that's a very interesting scenario to watch. I mean, you're talking about arguably the best quarterback in the league before he got those two injuries that affected his level of play. He was so hot. I mean, that first half of the season, yeah, they were talking about him for MVP. Well, and MVP conversation and, and how stupid did a lot of other teams in the national football league look that didn't have quarterbacks in net or didn't get anybody or they orchestrated a trade for a guy that was available on the street. And, uh, you know, I think he's, uh, I think he's a player that if I'm quarterbacked, needy, I am making a phone call. I would. I would make a phone call if I needed a quarterback for Daniel Jones.

35:06And there's no risk, right? Because if I sign him and say I'm in Edmonton, I'm in the Edmonton Eskimo's football team, I go and I sign Daniel Jones. I don't, I don't have any pay any price. It's, it's just me trying to sign him negotiating with him. There's no compensation. So the Colts, I don't know about this transition tag, you know, I mean, it's going to be in, that's, that's going to be a really interesting watch because the reality is if you would ask this question 10 years ago, a quarterback coming off in a kill, he's a huge question, massive nowadays, it's fairly common place. And the one position that we know, oh, okay, let's go back to Dan Marino that has been able to come back from an Achilles tear, could quarterback position has been like the one that used to be the only one that could do it. Now it's commonplace for athletes of all kinds to come back. A little different.

36:06Dan Marino didn't run anywhere, you know, they did not run it all. I mean, and then Daniel Jones does have some mobility about it in his days. He does, the cool thing is, is I had a conversation with Dr. Kevin Kaplan, who is the Jaguar's orthopedic surgeon, and I mean, him had a conversation about this a few years back. And it was about the Achilles repair nowadays and how they had this tool jig that makes sure that you get balanced. Flexibility amongst both ankles, that was always a problem from before, about finding that sweet spot and the, and the flexibility to have them equal, and they have this new jig device that they use to where they're not actually so in the end of the tear, but kind of beyond that. And then it naturally heals together. And he said that it's an amazing progress in science, medical science, this technique to repair Achilles tendons, which is making them so much more successful. And, you know, it's if you're kind of a med nut, you know, which I was kind

37:07of curious about it, but it's very interesting. And Daniel Jones, I expect him to make a full recovery, and you're definitely not going to put your eggs into the Anthony Richardson basket. Yeah, that's the other part of the conversation that's changed as well. Since that conversation, they've told Anthony Richardson and his representative that they could look for a trade if they need that's that Anthony Richardson tapping out because he needed a blow during a game. That was pretty wild. And he said that bro, you're done. And then he what broken orbital bone from it. Snaps on the elastic band before game. Yeah, we're telling you know, I feel bad for him with when it comes to that, but bro, you tapped out. Yeah. I mean, he's good for a hamstring injury a season as well. That's usually how that goes. Well, he's a he's a great athlete, incredible, great athlete. There was never a debate about his level of athleticism. There was just a debate about his level of plays a quarterback and the inexperience that he had coming out of you. After I look, you know, I mean, there are some guys that develop.

38:09But I mean, just so I was shocked that the Colts used that high of a pair. I would have never have done it just because there's just not. You've got to have a little bit of history of success playing that position. You can't just be a great athlete and then go, oh, yeah, wow. He can throw the ball this far and he runs this 40 time man. Look at him. Look at that physique. The eye test tells me he's going to be good. No, trust me. Trust your eyes. See the level of play and that really wasn't there for Anthony Richardson. Thanks to Matt Taylor voice of the Indianapolis Colts. Next week, Taylor's ours are voice of the Tennessee Titans. We'll get the thoughts on what's going on in Nashville with a lot of change. Lot of rivalry coming there. New's a city. Yeah, I'll arrive excited for that. Yeah, and there'll be a football game too. We won't be, won't be dull weeks, two times next year. That's for sure. We'll hear from Taylor next week.

39:10Yeah, we're back in a moment. Microsoft co-pilot will help us with appending Jaguars free agent back in a moment on 1010xLA and Jaguars.com and Jaguars YouTube. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadrick Jeff Logamon from the Hyundai Studios of the Miller Electric Center. 1010xLA and Jaguars.com Jaguars YouTube. Glad you with us on this Thursday afternoon inside a week until free agency and time now to get Microsoft co-pilot to help us with a possible Jags free agent. The question today, what were Travis ETN's juniors stats in 2025? Well, the answer is lengthy today. His 2025 NFL season was one of his most productive, strong contributions, both as a runner and receiver for the Jaguars. He finished 2025 regular season with 260 carries, 1107 yards, seven rushing touchdowns

40:11along with 36 receptions for 292 yards and six receiving touchdowns. Check out Microsoft co-pilot, open the pod bay doors, how? Pretty interesting in that I pulled up the NFL free agent rankings. Yeah. And everybody's got a site, right? I mean, Dia's�'s got one, you know, everybody's got their own personal one. John Ozer has a free agent tracker, Jaguars.com. So PFF Pro Football Focus actually has their own as well. And so I was just kind of checking it out, just out of curiosity. And just here's a couple free agents and what their rankings are. Players of note, I'll give you the top five and then some other players of note. Top one, number one they have is Trady Hendrixson. Yeah, pretty good player, really good player, 31 years old though. That's okay. He's, I think those player, I think if you look at him, he's a relatively low mileage player.

41:13Number two is George Pickens, who has the franchise to see. And so he's not going to be available. Number three is Tyler Lindnerbaum, the center for the Raven's excellent player. Number two rated center by most people in the National Football League. Number four, Devin Lloyd. Okay, Jacksonville Jaguars. Okay, number five is Jamel Dean, corner, Tampa Bay Buccaneer's Good Football Player. Some other players of note, the Jaguars running back Travis ETN is at number 15. Pretty good. Okay, one other player of note. Coming back to the above him to be the coach, Breeze Hall is the only one above him. The one that was really interesting, and this is obviously Jaguars related because as I was scrolling through, you get down to 25, John Jennings, 26, Rashid Shaheed, who had an excellent year finishing up with the Seahawks. They traded for him Joey Bose at 27, Aaron Rodgers at 28. And coming in at number 29, going into year 19, Kalea's came in.

42:18Wow, how about that? Wow. He's still ranked time. Here's what they say about this, this is crazy, right? It says this about Kalea's, okay? Last year he had 667 snaps. His PFF grade was 72.2, which is a high quality starter rating. It says retirement seems to be afraid of cams, who is yet to show signs of slowing down through 18 NFL seasons. He's logged 30 plus quarterback pressures in all but two of those years. And his 72.2 PFF overall grade in 2025 made it 15 straight years of topping 70.0 rating. Wow. Pretty impressive. He's not going to hang it up, is he? He might. He's going to play. Could he play here? He's going to play. Oh, absolutely. He could play here. I mean, look, this team needs pass rushers and interior pass rushers, you know, somebody

43:20may have put alongside Eric Armstrong's dad. Can you imagine him finishing his career here in Jacksonville? Would love it. It would be awesome. I mean, look, the three years, but they have a packed pool season. He earned so much respect and so much love here for a lot of reasons, number one, his level of play. Yes. And the quality of person that he was and how gracious he was to all the fan base in the community while he was here. And let's not forget the mentoring job that he did with Josh Heinz Allen. Absolutely. I mean, there's a lot of reasons to love Collace Campbell in a return here. Absolutely. It would work. So I live near the Sam Marcus. Why should, by the way, why should he go out with a loser? Right. Come on. Come on back. You know, come on. So I live near Sam Marcus and there was not a better site than seeing him and his wife walk around Sam Marcus square and like fans come up to them, but kind of given their space. But he just loved this town. He loved being in this area and hanging out.

44:22He can't hide. No, he sticks out the car. A foot eight three hundred and ten pounds. Yeah. The only guy, well, one of the few guys that I was ever around where I just, I literally felt small standing next to him and I felt like I wanted to get up on my tippy toes a little bit. When I was around him, you know, there's not many guys that I do that with. Imagine trying to block him, you know what I mean? Like because of because of that length and how he uses it and the angles he can put on an offensive lineman. Yeah. And he's all, I will say this. He's on the ground a lot more than he used to be. It's fine. We all. And you know, look, he does have the signs of aging. He's not an ageless wonder, even though he's in your 19 coming up if he plays still blocking kicks. He's still can play. He's still can play. Right. And look, what's that song? I'm not as good as I once was. We know we're all in that same category. I mean, unless you're like 21, then you're going to get better. But you know, if you're in the year where he is or me and you are, we can say though that

45:25we're not as good as I once was. But as good once as I ever was, so get him out there a few snaps, right? You don't need him. We all the impressive thing is that, you know, when he went to Baltimore, that was kind of the expectations though. He would cut back. Yeah. And it just didn't happen. Right. Because that's why they traded. It was like, oh, he's kind of on the back end. They were thinking that here. And there's a lot of money for a guy on the back end. What? He's still right there. Not in the back end. A couple of years ago, wasn't the night on the back end, but his level of play was still on its plateau. And I could tell Kalea's stories all day, but the one a couple of years ago, week one Miami, two hours before the game, he's in handcuffs with Tyree Kill outside. And then the first two plays of the game, a sack and a tackle for loss. Kalea's. Yeah. He's a heck of a football player and heck of a human being and unreal. Yeah. I wish him the best. Whatever he chooses to do, he has earned a few minutes left in the program here and what's coming up the new league year, March 11th, 4 p.m., the start of free agency.

46:29There's the two two day negotiation window before that. The legal tampering period will be busy as always. And then you'll likely see some agreed to terms slash contracts being signed right after that four o'clock start. We'll see what the Jaguars have in mind. I mean, they'll have to do some business thing. I have to do it right away. But this doesn't feel like logs. This is going to be the big wave of, you know, last year they had what, eight guys pretty early. I don't know if it'll be that. And I think it still could be that, that wave early. But not, you know, we get so accustomed to thinking that the first wave is the expensive wave. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't have to be that. That wasn't that last year. No, it just happened. So I think we could see this team be very active at the beginning because they know who they want. But it's not necessarily maybe competing for the big number. I mean, look, if you like a guy, you don't have to sit there and go, well, you know what, we got to wait until tier two, a free agency hits because then that's when the money is

47:33a little bit less. You can go after those guys right away anyway, you target guys. And I think that's the one thing that they did a really good job of last year. They had a target list and they went right at it. They didn't waste any time. They got who they wanted to. I don't think that there was one person on their list that they did not get. And I think part of the reason for that was that they didn't wait until the big money guys kind of finished to go after maybe some of the lesser money guys. They went after the lesser money guys, as soon as they did, maybe a little bit more money guys were being sawed out there. So I like the, I like the philosophy. We'll look forward to that next week. We'll have a full coverage of that on this program next Thursday because we'll be right in the thick of it a day into the newly year and see if the Jaguars have made any deals by that timeframe. Of course, Wednesday, four o'clock. As we said, the start of free agency will be on Thursday at four o'clock, so 24 hours

48:33after the newly year begins. And then of course, at the end of March, the NFL annual meeting will have the official ownership vote, most likely on the Jags plans for home games for 20, 20 seconds. It's a big deal, right? It's a big deal. Yeah, that's a big deal. So I'm looking forward to that. By the way, I was just looking at another name on this list, it's a guy that's up there long tooth. Bobby Wagner. Oh, wow. Been around forever. That number 47 available for you. Any of the man of the year? Did he win that this year? I think he did. He is, he's another one of those guys and I think impressive too because he actually handles the negotiation of his contract himself, which is impressive. He did win the Walter Payton Man of the Year this year. And he is his level of success is very similar to Kaleis. Bobby Wagner might be the most surest tackling linebacker, maybe to ever grace the professional football field. Ever. He's right out there. Wow.

49:34He had, I think, the least amount of mistackles for well over a decade of any other linebacker defender in the national football league. And for years, Seattle thought he was done. The Rams were like, hey, come on over here and then the Rams let him go. And then he's in Washington still playing well. Well, I have a good one. And we'll see you next week. We'll see you in a couple of weeks, a couple of weeks. Jeff Lagerman. I'm JP Shadrick. Thanks to Joe Fortunato, David Cho, our entire crew, Brent Reiber as well. This is Jaguar's Happy Hour.