Is the White Cross Project a Psyop? | Jerm Warfare

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1:15My name is Jim. This is Jim Wolfe, the Battle of Ideas. There's Benito. Thank you for joining me in the trenches. Thanks so much Jeremy for inviting me. You know, we all part of a global citizenry at the end of the day, fighting things out with borders that were drawn around our countries a long time ago by people a lot more powerful than us. I'm trying to think where to start. So the talking point here is the White Cross Project. So basically it's on the surface, we're dealing with an issue in South Africa that I think now the world is starting to know about we have a very, very high rate of crime in South Africa and former tax obviously a problem. I think they're average at one per week, which is very, very high. It's a problem the ANC is definitely in some sort of denial about it. A number of groups have been lobbying not just the South African government but the international community to quote, unquote,

2:15raise awareness. I'm not entirely certain what raising awareness is meant to achieve. And perhaps you can also look into that for me. But recently, as in like a week ago, the White Cross Project was a campaign in Washington where they physically planted 3,000 White Crosses on one of the national loans and then got a private screening of a documentary about former tax in the White Cross, which is incredible if you think about how they got their right. Having global organizations, large corporations, governments with funders and larger global organizations that pick people in government, we they have real control over how we perceive the world just as global citizens. And if we are caught up in the mainstream narratives of the world, then things like what we'll be discussing now

3:17will look like a darker history or something that is hidden. When it's actually open and in plain sight and that is encouraging because we can actually find truth and truth brings us closer to reality. What actually took place? And there's a process one can follow to get there and you can do the same with the White Cross Project. And I, because I worked in the nuclear industry, I ran nuclear reactors, I was highly skilled and trained in doing that. I have learned how to meticulously compartmentalize things, see things in ways that other people might not ask questions that many people might not normally ask because of my training in my background. And when it comes to the White Cross Project, I see the CIA in SAC, that is what I see. I mean, those are the first organizations I see involved. Now, the CIA is extremely active within South Africa

4:17for many reasons and so is MESAT. And you cannot speak about foreign murders and what I call the South African pogroms, which is what took place in Russia back in the day in the old USSR under the Tsars to destabilize the country so that it could be a revolution to overthrow the Tsars at the time, which was done by Bolsheviks. And if you actually look at the issue of that, it's no different to South Africa. So I believe that many of these groups that want to raise awareness for whether these form attacks or whatever the case might be, they might miss the fact that the very countries that they support might be behind those actions. And famously, we actually found out through evidence that self and blockers have been used in some of these form attacks that MESAT uses. And then you have to ask yourself, who is actually behind the form attack? Did these people get these instruments by accident?

5:22Or did they get them exactly where they come from? And when I see these attacks in informal settlements, for instance, these mass shootings, that make no sense with people indiscriminately walking to a tavern or public gathering area and indiscriminately just shoot at people, that is what happened during the destabilization phase within the Russia that was run by the Tsars, where places would just set the light, people would just massacred. And there was no reason. People couldn't understand what was happening. And it's very destabilizing, it's extremely dangerous, and it divides. And dividing people is a very powerful tool. And this is the problem with the White Cross project. That the people might have the basic intentions. They should be no one killed on a farm. They should be no one killed in the country. The fact that the axes you speak of to the White House is there is not because these people lobbied the US,

6:25it's because the US is benefiting from the situation. So let me premise this by saying, I received a huge amount of pushback on X. I made the following comment, more or less in these words, I said, I support in principle, the idea of raising awareness around farm attacks, because that can lead to pressure and the correct pressure towards our government. But at the same time, I feel somewhat uneasy about the campaign. I would agree with you on that. You're very brave to put that out on the slaughter sphere, because that is where you get ripped off the streets by people with access to the internet. That probably have very low IQs, and actually don't look at the bigger picture. So they are helping through the mainstream narratives on a specific trajectory of thought.

7:26They don't look wider to look at evidence. And this is one of the greatest problems in the world right now. It's had mostly information, people processing their minds, it's not evidence-based. I for instance, saw someone earlier post a picture on Facebook, just as an example, and this is not against or for any religious idea, but that Noah's Ark has been found in Turkey. Now this happened a long time ago, as well, through Ron Wyatt, that went through the same process, the site has been scanned so many times. And people are now saying it's now unacquivical that Noah's Ark has been discovered, which is not the case. Not even the people working there now has claimed that they have definitely found it, but people are sharing this everywhere. And I'm just trying to prove a point here that people don't look at the facts. They didn't go to the scientists that's involved in the scans or whatever's happening there, and listen to what they had to say. When they say we found some organic material,

8:27now all of a sudden it's wood. When it hasn't been definitively described as wood, all of a sudden cavities that are seen now become passages and rooms, when that's not what any of the people said at all. So things get added on based on the bias that a person has. Now the same thing with a light cross project. The problem I believe the ANC government, and the ANC government I believe was put there by the state of Israel was created, by the state of Israel, the same as a part of the government to destroy the country. Let's just put that out there to begin with, okay? So the African National Congress died in the 1930s, the regional conservative group of people that wanted to advocate for the concerns of African people. That organization ceased to exist, and a new organization was formed in the 1940s. And you can enter the apartheid government at the same time.

9:31This is relevant to what we will be talking about now. So you are looking at the same people orchestrating the creation of a new African National Congress with new ideals, new goals. The first ANC did not believe in an unstuggled role. All of a sudden now you have terrorism, you have people being organized, you have weapons being supplied, and you have the royal father and all sorts of things. In the South African apartheid government, you now have a government established in 1948. There was orchestrated, if you look at that history, all the telltale signs are there. To 1994, you will see the same involvement of the Anglo-American block and the state of Israel. You know, I did my national service at the Test-Fighting Development Center, and I'll get back to why this is relevant to the White Cross project just now. And Israel and the US was fully aware of the secret site

10:31at the Test-Fighting Development Center near Baradayah's door. They were working with our military. This is no secret. Israel was working with our Craig Gordin on creating intercontinental ballistic missiles, and the US pretended not to know about when they were intricately involved. Well, hang on. The site of Israel runs the US. Yeah, let me just jump in. I want to just add to what you're saying. Listen to this. Quote, we created the South African arms industry, unquote. That's the former Israeli ambassador to South Africa, Elon Leal. He's a 100% correct. So these things aren't hidden, Jeremy. They are in the open for those that are willing to see. I always say those that have used the United States to see. We'll see it. It's in the open. Our nuclear weapons project was created with the help of Israel. And I mean, we had spies gaining access to information, et cetera,

11:35with an old SES back in the day to get all the information back we needed to build nuclear weapons. We built the cheapest nuclear weapons ever constructed. Even although it was a normal gun type or trigger type device, we did it cheaply. The rest of the world spent a fortune to build the same thing. South Africa was absolutely used as a place to produce weapons that Israel could then place their manufacturing or nuclear weapons on. And you know, they won't admit that they are a nuclear state, but we all know that they are. So let's just get that out of the way. When it comes to the White Cross project, the African National Congress will not acknowledge that there's a white genocide taking place. And they fear that if they acknowledge that a former is a targeted thing that it is equated to white genocide,

12:36which is exactly what Trump has called it. So can you see the narrative starting to play out here? Now, I don't have a position on whether people want to call it a white genocide or not. Because people are being slaughtered on a daily basis in this country. In it. There is a white genocide in South Africa this. Sorry for that. I don't see it at all. And this is why the narrative is problematic, Jeremy, because Trump is looking for a way to gain more control here. And he needs the buying from his public. He supports his base to have more intervention in South Africa. After, especially after the ICJ case, 100%. So now these South African entities, and I'm not even going to name them. I hope you forgive me for that. I don't even want to say their names. They are involved in the White Cross project

13:39that want to do this in the United States. The first thing they do not realize is that is not our country. I did a poll on my YouTube channel, Jeremy, where 80% of the respondents said that they would welcome US troops on the ground for a full takeover of South Africa. Yeah, I did the same. I was shocked. I mean, too. I got the same response. These people are living in South Africa, but they don't. Because of the African National Congress created by the very same people that run Donald Trump's government. They want the US to come and take over here. That's a deep CLMU-SUT operation. And it is as work like clockwork. So you're sitting with most of your typical democratic alliance supporters and even freedom front plus supporters. And this is not a tech on the party. I'm talking about the supporter base. That would want the US to intervene in what is supposed to be a sovereign country, South Africa.

14:44And that is treason. That's high treason, in fact. So do we actually have a government that is sovereign? I don't believe that. Do we have a real democracy in South Africa? I don't believe that. Because the Anglo-American bloc and the same influences created the 1994 transition. I hope to write our current constitution that gives power to and what? International institutions, large corporations, the Anglo-American bloc to extract minerals for as long as is necessary. And you know, I have evidence for this. I saw something with my own eyes, Jeremy. And I hope you allow me to tell this quick story of when I was in the military at the Thessalon development center. I was asked to go to an event at Parliament. I had no idea what it was for. It was myself and another emin that actually got the military bucky and we could drive down to Cape Town and arrive at this event. And our job was to be dressed up in our fancy tunics,

15:46which is the best military garb and stand at the tables of people present at a dinner after Margaret Thatcher was handed the order of the Cape of Guru. So she was handed that award by if W.D. Kraak. This was just after basically put the word I was incapacitated. And if W.D. Kraak shocked me because when I swung the first time at the dinner, which was afterwards, so that this huge room full with massive round tables with people sitting at the tables and I was assigned to the head table. So I was at the table. If W.D. Kraak sat and we Margaret Thatcher sat. And they I saw the power dynamics in the country. So no one must come and tell me that when I was a 19-year-old boy, that my eyes deceived me because in that very specific dinner,

16:52I saw Margaret Thatcher's husband, said, Dennis, crawl on the ground, drunk is a skunk. I'm going to say it openly now. Sorry to the people in Britain, but he asked to order an extra case of beers to his room after we had to carry him out of there. But Margaret Thatcher is the person that surprised me. She was extremely upright. She had this large head when she was very tall as something that really surprised me. And opposite the table where she sat on the opposite side, sat if W.D. Kraak. Now these tables were so large that they couldn't communicate with each other. So even although they sat opposite each other, there was no communication taking place between them. And I'll never forget him slaunching in his seat, smoking a cigar. At the dinner table with all these dignitaries. But what was most important is we'll set next Margaret Thatcher on either side of him. On the one side of her set, Harry Oppenheimer.

17:52And on the other side, sat Anton Rupert. It's the first time I saw these people in real life. I'd seen them in newspapers, etc. And because of my father being very outspoken politically, I knew who they were. And that entire evening, their discussion because I stood closest to them was about the transition in 1994. And how are we going to ensure that the minds can keep on extracting the minerals? And how are we going to keep the economy the way that it should be so that the large corporations, the Anglo-American block, and keep on extracting what they have been? That was their only concern. Yeah. So in other words, in the partate, but don't change who controls the mining sector. At all. So the clerk was clearly just a pawn, a political pawn that ever dropped to do. He had not a single word to say that even with anyone else,

18:54he was the most pathetic person I'd ever seen at a secret table like that. Margaret Thatcher was larger than life. She controlled the narrative where the people agree with her or not is not the point here. It's about her demeanor. She carried the room. You could see her presence. And so was Anton Rupert, the area Oppenheimer is a small guy. So he wasn't that tall in Stetcher. But they were seriously discussing the transition. If you look at the constitution being written, who decided how it needs to be written, the political system that needed to be created, all of those things, that ties back to what is happening now in Washington, DC, because Donald Trump is 100% be a holden to the state of Israel. He is their president. And you know, people that support the state of Israel, and I'm not emptying the state of Israel at all.

19:54I'm not anti-Palestine either. I don't pick sides. I just speak about what I see as evidence. Donald Trump is considered an Israeli president, just like many others before him. Just like Joe Biden, just like the Bushes, because they served Israel's interest. Donald Trump, probably the most, even the issue of the US. And he's received many awards because of this. So there was a deal struck recently with the current Tsulukin for a massive more than a billion dollar development in Kwa Zulunatal for a new, not just data center hub, but a new Silicon Valley for Africa. And you know, I've spoken about that at length. How does looking them will be destroyed? I kid you not. It was two months after I spoke about that on my tours around the country

20:54during the COVID-19 campaign. That came goodwill is really deeply passed on and then soon after the quay. So it was quite shocking that this thing that I predicted was going to happen happened in the worst possible way. And I'm not going to go into all the detail of how all the Tsuluk princes and princesses are courted by international global families and entities, especially the Rothschilds, making sure that they are educated in ways that serve their interest, which is now led to where we are at the moment. I actually had an appointment to meet with us looking at what was a Monday evening and I canceled my flights at the last minute because I realized that this could really affect me badly in the future and that I first needed to see where these legions are like before I decided to meet. And I was right. My call was right then is basically selling out the Tsuluk kingdom to this thick elite

22:01and South Africa is a key part of the global enclave plans. And not just the way to take back Cape Town specifically, the Atlantic Sea Board is an enclave. And the tech elite discuss this openly and there's many places and forms that the tech elite have bought in the Karua and the Calary and various other places in South Africa where they are building infrastructure for doomsday. Why would they do that? Bold underground bunkers, etc. So there's a keen interest in South Africa which concerns me. An announcement that we want to have a formula one grand prix in Cape Town instead of a kaiolami, when it will cost a lot more money, it tells me that in the future South Africa, the elite plan a different outcome to what many South African citizens might actually consider.

23:02And that does white cross project and all these entities working with a foreign state to try and influence what is happening in South Africa is maybe benefiting the foreign state and not the people of South Africa. And I could probably talk about that for hours. I mean all the different things that the US won. They want access to the southern tip of Africa. But that's kind of what I was alluding to in the beginning when I said the white cross project makes me feel a little bit uncomfortable. I'm not actually talking about the farm attacks. I think that's just the front. I'm talking about what's because it's a terrible thing. You know, I made one video on that in the past where I specified that they are meant to shop and be heinous and divide people. And the problem is it's such an emotional topic that you can't actually have the conversation that you and I are trying to have.

24:02But we are having it nonetheless. And what very concerned to do so get on me on my say what concerns me a little bit though is the fact that the United States doesn't have and Israel and in fact entire Western block don't have a very good history of a regime change. Shall we say we've seen these attempts happen throughout history and it never works out well for those in the regime quote unquote. It's about who benefits and I wonder if the US is a line all of this to occur because it sees South Africa as a strategic as a big point as a strategic point. 100% South Africa is strategic to the US, especially when it comes to rare earth minerals and many other things. So when Donald Trump tells the world we don't need anything from anyone else and then the next week he's signing deals with many African countries because not on a good footing with South Africa and all of a sudden there's US investment inside African companies that are found ways to actually process rare earth minerals fast.

25:15Then what he is saying what is happening on the ground are two different things. The US needs South Africa has needed South Africa the angle of American block has been siphoning money out of our fiscus since forever do you really believe that Jacob zoom out sitting with billions of rings in his bank account. Do you actually believe that. Of course this is the idea that most of the Africans are sitting with billions of rings in a bank doesn't exist to begin with okay is just a ledger it's all at ease so there is not a single person in the African National Congress or any affiliate to them or in the DA the AFF R&K wordies that is stolen billions of rings. Only large foreign countries can steal billions of rings. There's all of the groups and as you said earlier we were mentioned names were all of the groups involved in the White Cross project or a pro Israel and B not related to farming.

26:21Correct that that should tell you a lot and I think the fact that you picked up on that proves that I'm speaking to someone with a higher level of intellect beyond the mainstream narrative and that is really nice. I battle to find people I can have good conversations with I actually spoke to a lady yesterday where an awesome conversation and I said it's such a relief that I can speak to someone that understands things at a level that just makes sense it's it's really it may feel good to speak to somewhere that comes up with points like this because often I feel very alarmed Jeremy to be honest. Besides the supporters that I have which are thousands your audience want to listen to things that isn't in the mainstream media and that makes you unique and I absolutely love that the fact that you picked up on those two things that's what matters I often say it's things people do not ask the questions people do not ask and you just asked why are these people not affiliated to farming is because they don't care about farming.

27:33When people say that the farmers this and the farmers that most of these farmers export the produce it's not even being used in South Africa. So the only thing they contribute towards the economy and I especially I'm speaking of the mega farmers is labor and a lot of them use foreign labor because they are cheaper. So a local farmer looking off these community or smaller scale farmers is a very different ballgame to the large Rothschild funded land bank etc operation that started the massive South African farming that supplies the rest of the world other interest places not South Africans we do not get the best produce. So let's just not the cuts. This whole thing of Chinese our enemy Russia's our enemy it's all nonsense because Russia and China and the US work together on so many projects behind the scenes all the time.

28:42So how are they enemies it's nonsense it's nonsense Jeremy it's all to put fearing to people so that we behave a certain way. Just like in South Africa where the Roy Gaffar we went fighting the ANC at the borders they were inside the country. We're fighting in the border war a lot of people think we were fighting the ANC and Angola kid do not I mean this is the level of stupidity unfortunately that we have amongst our citizens because these are the things that they are told in school at family rise etc. People do not want to make the effort to look at the facts that are available to us that we can all see. So when it comes to the US China and Russia they are all part of the it's project. We in France are trying to build a large talk a Mac fusion reactor the entire world is involved in it so how are they fighting and wanting to kill each other.

29:49It's all theater there is a committee of people that run the planet and you know your audience might think that this is crazy they don't have a name but my father attended that committee meeting in 1984 engineer Switzerland and that meeting is held in the first week of January every year before the world economic forum gets their direction in what they are supposed to do. And you know he only once told me the meticulous detail of what was discussed. But the one thing that stood out that proves the viability of the information that he had and the fact that I know that he was there because I have a late in my position that he received the December of 1993 engineer Switzerland. So I know he was there I've got his passport to prove it is he could tell me exactly how the COVID-19 pandemic was going to come about in detail in 2004.

30:50Many years before it actually happened it all mean detail I was going to take place how it was planned how it was supposed to test the people of the world. Everyone was going to put under high salaries house arrest those were the words that he used. So it's just to me I have to look at the world from a level of a hierarchy where a group of people is calling the shots and the countries of the world the governments of the world are just the people that implement. Based on how they are funded how they are blackmailed and Donald Trump is doing what is doing because it's been blackmailed. If Donald Trump has not do what is all that amount of dirt that they will spend on him there's nothing that can clean afterwards. So that is why they have control of. But I mean anybody can test what you're saying just go back to the COVID era the whole world followed the same script. Yeah 100% and my dad told me the detail of where it will start inside the Africa out would spread the detail when I saw the Texas the videos of the Texas during East to weekend driving to the East and Cape during level five lockdown when no one is supposed to move around and they were allowed through.

32:10I knew that this is what he was talking about in 2004 and I went cold because I thought he was absolutely crazy and I didn't want to bring him into this but it's important that is. He gave credibility to the fact that there is a higher body that control these governments so when I look at bricks I still see the committee and that's the easiest way to call them or the lamppians or whatever you want to call them. That they control these governments that the governments don't ever say that the United Nations was formed post nineteen forty five to compartmentalize countries and so that you could form governments in those countries through various political systems to control them. And at the end of the day the central axis of power needed to make sure an Israel as a country as a state is central to this there's nothing to do with Jewish people this is to do with the state of Israel. And Zionism which created the state of Israel and advocacy for a state of Israel and at the end of the day it's for minting a final world war.

33:20That is the end plan and people from South Africa going to the United States playing into that narrative even maybe innocently I don't think the people that went there are deliberately trying to screw over the country Jeremy no and I made that point also that that they're all decent people I know a number of them but decent or not you can still be played. They are being played and I would love to sit down with them and tell him what I know I mean a lot more detail that I'm willing to to to die hold here in a in a public platform so. People need to know that firstly governments are a ruse at the moment that can change because you can put systems in place that can change our governments operate. How those world powers will respond to that is a very different ball game and this comes back to the interest in South Africa why when I I data center proliferation is massive around the world while these I had companies are just making more and more dead and there's not enough electricity to supply those data centers why do these tech billion is a huge interest in South Africa when iscom hasn't actually done that.

34:39They got surplus surplus electricity they say they do in cold reserve but started lot up and see what happens. Their plans for South Africa that does not include the citizens of South Africa and Donald Trump needs those US companies to get what they want here and the DA is a big part of their plan the Western Cape is a big part of their plan so is Quasimba Tau so you will see that I said three things will happen in South Africa. They will be the destruction of the Zulukin them next they will be the destruction of iscom I said that this in 2020 and next they will be a cessation battle. That is where we are now so in the cessation battle you are talking about foreign entities I'm not talking about tape exit or any Mickey Mouse thing like that I'm talking about serious money intelligence infrastructure behind. Concerted a team to a hijack entire regions of the country and Quasimba Tau and the Western Cape are two of those battlegrounds and it's a battleground for control and it's a battleground for tech elite control and they are winning.

35:51The DA is giving them what they want and I believe I still need to see what the NKP says around that in in Quasimba Tau because this is a deal that the Zulukin sign for in Gondyama trust land I mean that is massive. So just for clarity for the international audience the DA is the democratic alliance it's the official opposition to the ANC and as it happens the DA. Wait Jeremy it's not the official opposition they are in bed with the ANC in their government so called government of national unity let's just say that because the ANC is not in power at the moment. But the DA is they were the official opposition yes now they in the same bed. The DA happens to be pro-Israel in pro-America. Correct. And when we talk about regime change which I think is linked to the White Cross project. Under the things what is it that people want if they asked the ANC do they want to put the DA in?

36:57I can actually tell you that the leader of the DA now is always going to become the DA leader Jordan Niel Lewis. I'll mention his name I've met with Jordan I have a discussions with Jordan one on one an intelligent man. He was earmarked from a very young age put through his studies to become a politician for this day and he knows that he attended a meeting in Africa for regime change in South Africa. So it's all been planned meticulously and just understand it's not that democratic alliance which used to be the official opposition planning this and they are just a vehicle to achieve this objective and it's working. And many other movements without knowing it might be contributing towards us like accept the the exit referendum and things like that. These people are all contributing and you know when the CIA is involved in operations like that you just stoke things you change algorithms on social media platforms and you can really proliferate something quite easily.

38:09And then you just clamp down on the centers. So a project like the White Cross project which you know has good intentions is also being used. I'm not sure about the good intentions but because the intention is to overthrow this other government which is the African National Congress. And I think most of the movements involve do back the freedom front plus this is not an attack on the freedom front plus at all. And I think basically they are center right which is what the ANC was back in the day. But hold on a second you're not defending the ANC surely. No I'm not not at all. The ANC of today is not the ANC that died in 1930 at all. The ANC of today was created by the state of all the people that created the state of Israel run about the same time.

39:10So the ANC the modern ANC is a creation for a purpose. Okay but let me just see if I'm following the White Cross project on the surface then is about former text but if you dig a little bit deeper it's actually a signal for regime change in South Africa. Correct I love the thing. And I actually said to my supporters that people mustn't be surprised if certain things aren't done in South Africa now and if the African National Congress because they are the centers within the African National Congress that do not want certain things to happen. And the Jacob Zuma clan or group was part of this a few others as well that are divided on these things that do not want to follow the globalist agenda 2030 plan of the United Nations or the national development plan 2030 because he actually understands where it's going.

40:11Jacob Zuma famously stopped the road of fifth generation technology or 5G for years he did this deliberately another thing he did was stop the mass production of gold in the country and his presidency a drop that absolutely plummeted. Now is that a bad thing or is he keeping the gold in the soil? Just a question you know I remember during COVID when he was interviewed by the media whether or not he had the vaccine and he laughed and he said no and I have a suspicion he would have handled the COVID thing a bit better than our current president. Probably and it's not that I trust Jacob Zuma or that I support Jacob Zuma I'm just looking at the evidence that I see on the ground okay we don't have any good politicians that I'm aware of that is in government right now most of them that are there are being funded by the very same people organizations large corporations.

41:13They caused the change in South Africa that had those meetings with Nelson Mandela to to broker the deal for him to become the next president because he was chosen long before he was elected and that happened in a meeting in Bishop Scott in our house. And in my six was present the CIA was present was such was present so the Oppenheimer's so our country is not democratic there's nothing democratic about it the fact that we vote makes people believe that they have options and maybe the options now that people can actually vote for to change the state the square and maybe they'll be more. Several organizations fighting for that like my vote count and then many other organizations that are saying hey there's something wrong with our political system it looks like it's almost been set up for failure. Yeah and I think it's important to remember that if the U.S. is behind regime change in another country it doesn't benefit the country benefits the U.S.

42:18100% and it doesn't look good when it happens yeah sorry let me let me carry on that line of thought and ask the following question does the U.S. actually care about South African farmers not at all it's a means to an end it's all it is and I said that for the longest time and once again I can say that three evidence wing the wind Donald Trump said that South African citizens can come there as refugees to the U.S. Who is gaining anything is is gaining people from South Africa that can be helpful to the American economy I was out of Africa gaining from that I was that him looking after the farmers here. People that don't see that obvious intricacy I don't know how to convince them because there's an intellectual issue with understanding what is actually happening when you take people from a country that benefits you you are not the saviour you've just screwed over the country because you removed good text paying a median citizens.

43:32It's all you've done me let me play devil's advocate because I've had this. I'm throwing it me now a number of times over the last few days but germ okay so what's wrong with U.S. intervention in South Africa what you know it's it's better than what we have now. That is what a lot of people say and I actually alluded to that earlier what is the U.S. interesting South Africa and how long has it been there it's not new it is still there. The African National Congress the government that we have now within the GNU there's factions that want to break that tradition in history. And because of people wanting to break that tradition in history the U.S. now has a problem so they need to strengthen the Western Cape a specific Cape down make sure that it's a D.A. a democratic alliance stronghold and that they will hold the fort for U.S. need.

44:38And when John Stienisen went and visited the U.S. and you remember how upset so my pose was overdose because he went there as the D.A. leader what is he doing there. When the democratic alliance sends an entourage this is a party within the country this is not as other government sends a group of people to the United States there's something fundamentally wrong with it. It means that they are not fighting for South Africa they are fighting for U.S. interest. So it's important to remember that during the partate U.S. British Israeli interests were very strong in South Africa they had a lot of control over our resource sector whether or not they supported a partate is irrelevant they did support it and then they didn't but one thing is for said verbally they made as if they didn't but they if you look at the weapons manufacturing and everything that happened behind the scenes and I don't want to get into detail it's dangerous.

45:43That continued all along even although they were a few king a part of they were still supporting a part of government in weapons manufacturing and development. Yeah but what I was going to say is even though the system changed I read a daughter point the other day that said that in 1994 when South Africa officially became quote unquote democracy over 50% of the entire private sector was controlled by Anglo American. And today if you if you look at the people that control everything you need for the state to survive and the people to survive within the state the citizens there's four people that control that and those four people have given power to proxies to control even more that which includes Patrice would say pay includes a room of pausa and other people. But those people are Nikki Oppenheimer now.

46:46Then you have a bigger from last pass you have Christopher shop right checkers etc and you have you want to rupee if you look at those four people and everything they own and run that is the country. All country Christopher controls the entire food supply chain so watch out for writing checkers did an all other and pep is make sure that it's cheaper to buy clothing at pep or chop right or checkers for food then for you to produce it in your own garden so what did that do and created a reliant citizenry citizens that rely on those large corporations as a brilliant plan. Brilliant then you look at the rupee addiction is extremely important to control a nation and I can go into a lot more detail I can go into the history of what Adam by south the fund of the Bavarian illuminati wrote in his initial edicts what needs happen to control the state and South Africa is a textbook example of that.

47:55So the rupee didn't only have the alcohol industry and the tobacco industry in the grass. They did weapons manufacturing because my father worked for them on the exoset missile project that we then ended up selling to Argentina and they used that with a mirage aircraft to sink the sheffield during the fall clean wars and now they spoke of war again with fault clans because of Trump's empowerment. So you can see this all a tech of sovereign territory starting to happen more control over areas Trump controlling more people that support Trump then being given the right to control more because Britain has changed a lot they were useful idiots even when they attacked South Africa in 1800s when they came in 1820 the first settlers and the first British troops walked into South Africa and they tried to get control. So the control of all the mining industry here who funded that operation the Rothschilds funded it when the beers was formed later who earned most of the shares in the beers the Rothschilds earned 80% of the shares.

49:11So the Oppenheimer's we empowered. And by the way the architect of apartheid actually was Cecil Rhodes of free masonry. Yeah well it's not just Masonic he founded his own secret society I don't think we have to delve into that now. What you need to understand is our history and what is playing out now with a white cross project was meticulously planned out a long time ago because the brewers or the Afrikanas was a creation of British creation and the Zulu kingdom the Zulu nation was the greatest threat to Anglo-Americans control in the country. I wonder if this is a losing battle. If you look at what's happening in the rest of the world now the techie lead would not invest money year move a formula one track from job work to Cape Town is they didn't think there was a future here.

50:14Insert trouble in the Middle East trouble in Europe. Wall chaos which makes a sudden tip of Africa very very attractive. Yeah especially with that shipping route correct. If you look at the internet cables that runs through through South Africa and where they they look up you will see why the recent Cape especially Cape Town. Well post any for the area and why cause not all is crucial to the techie lead. Insert the state of Israel insert Jerusalem insert the underground facility that they both there the same as a bowling at the White House now under the ballroom and trumpet material the data center that is new proof. So that they can still monitor the track and trace every movement on planet earth and the reason why.

51:20This is important it's not because I say any of those things will happen it's because it shows you what these people are planning. If you listen to many of the people in the Trump administration and he hasn't got a religious bone in his body okay so Trump is not religious he's just playing to. What they want and most people believe now the second coming is happening very soon really or religious or not. That is happening now and that they through their wars need to fulfill it so what's happening in I want to call it the the old Persian Empire instead of Iran I think it's a better term. Is the destruction of that empire and this is what Trump is all been on saying that the entire civilization they need to be destroyed. Because it's something that the state of Israel wants it's like a sacrifice it's like a token and if you look at the great is all project where they want to expand the borders they are they need the United States to support what they are doing.

52:25And the thing is at the end of the day. Russia and China is doing nothing about it. It's all just theater the people of the world needs to think that there's going to be this big bash because of the beliefs and the three Abrahamic religions were set up beautifully a spatially since the 1700s light 1700s to believe that there's going to be this religious clash in the Middle East. And we are being set up for that eventuality now and it doesn't have to happen. These people are self fulfilling prophecy. There's a strange irony that I talk about self determination and I have nothing against that but there's a weird irony in calling for self determination but getting another country to to help you do it. So when you need someone else to do something for you they can take it away too. You know I tell people to become self-reliant to become strong independently where you are not to listen to me or follow me or anything like that.

53:29I don't believe in followers we have people that support what we do but following someone is weak. I want there to be lots of strong people around the world that are self-reliant and is independent of governments and large corporations because if you're going to achieve that that is the freest thing that you can be at the moment. Because governments around the world and large corporations are trying to take our freedom away and you have to ask yourself why? Why do people want to monitor the track and trace us? Why will our inside Africa green barcode at ID book not be valid in two years time and you won't be able to go and vote using it? That is how they'll be forcing people to take on firstly the smart ID card that's got a chuckled into it that can be scanned by scanners and then later a complete digital ID on your phone or some device where you can monitor the track and trace in real time.

54:32And if any foreign entity wants to eliminate you you can just sing in a drone to your location and wipe you out. That's that simple. And I'm not trying to be cynical this is happening in Ukraine and in Russia right now. They have actually already sent in autonomous drones. They were sent in to find Russian soldiers and kill them without the operator seeing what's happening and then they would send in a drone afterwards to go and see what the results were. I mean that is frightening Jeremy to think that that is as already taken place. One of the groups involved with the with this white cross project in Washington I looked it up actually has links to USA ID and the NED and another one of the groups has direct links to the UN. Yeah 100% and I've gone to the UN and advocated for the fact that these are white genocide inside Africa.

55:33And famously claim that nine of the ten conditions are met to say that these genocide taking place where the tenth condition is the extermination part. So if you look at the phases of extermination. So these organizations are I mean I don't want to name them. I'm not sure that they just there's just about the meaning well to do something as big and as bold as this. There has to be a lot of money involved. So money I think we haven't spoken about yet has to be a huge factor. Where does the money come from? If you look at a lot of social media platforms in this country to be flown over to Israel to become pro Israel. Like many of the social media commentators from the US did this happened to many of the social media commentators in South Africa. And their message is pro Israel now do they get funding what support do they get because of this and we know that within the US the same thing happened this is all tied to the state of Israel.

56:43The white cross project is tied to the state of Israel because as you mentioned earlier all these people support all these groups support the state of Israel. If you support the state of Israel and it's a religious belief because you believe that the Jewish people are the chosen people and once again I hate conflating Jewish people with the state of Israel because there's two completely separate things. Then you cannot be loyal to your country. It's not possible. You are literally in that state be old into religious beliefs that transcends the borders of your country and you actually believe that you need to do everything in your power to empower the state of Israel because you believe that they are superior in some way. I mean, there's a question I've been asking for years. I've been asking Christian friends of mine. Are you are you an Israeli citizen? No. Are you Jewish? No. Okay, but you stand with Israel. Yes. Why? And I can't actually get a coherent answer.

57:54Well, I don't think most of them know except that they were raised to believe it. I was raised to believe it until I grew up and learned more about the world and became an adult and could make up our own mind and not just follow a narrative. I think with a lot of these people it's so deep-seated and so entrenched and the danger is that people like that and I call it Christian Zionism because most Christians inside the effect are Zionist Christians. I think it's a great way to make that clear. And we have 80% of Christians inside people inside the effect are Christian. So it's a large percentage of the South African population that are Christian and Zionist. And it's the same in the US. Most Christians in the US are Zionist Christians. That is starting to change because of channels like Takaqals and Candace Owens and so on starting to question this whole relationship with Israel and it's very new. I think I run out going to pan out and many of those people come to the victims house because many of the things they still believe makes absolutely no sense to me when they are ridiculed killing Christians believing that the state of Israel is their salvation.

59:10So when it comes to religious beliefs and I mean that's a topic one should stay far away from it does influence this white cross project. And you know in my time in counter terrorism intelligence though the one theme then was self-fulfilling prophecy. Once again the same thing a lot of people believe that this white cross project what has happened is prophecy being fruitful. What's the moral of the story here. South Africa is not sovereign. It's no way near democratic. We can make it a sovereign country. We can make it democratic. However our greatest enemies people from within that then actually believing South Africa is a country. The fact that the United States is not a sovereign country. So every is not a sovereign country. I don't think there's any sovereign country in the world that can just make their decisions. Even China you know the Rothschilds went in the 1980s started the central bank and started funding the expansion.

1:00:16So China also just used a tool in the world to achieve certain objectives and it's not different with Putin. You know Putin explained that when he got into office he was visited by me and told him how he was going to run things. When he famously said that I think a lot of people thought was done in the cheek I think he was very serious. You know Putin was trained in intelligence. So he's not stupid when it comes to all the world works. You know exactly all the world works. South Africa is my main concern. The fact that South Africa is a country hasn't got that sovereignty. The fact that South African citizens go to another country to give them what they want, what they feel they need. And the fact that they would depend on that country. The fact that they would see Trump as their savior. And you know Trump famously put himself as this healing savior over the patient in a hospital bed on his tooth social account and the people in ballistic.

1:01:21He thought that that was great that that is that represents him. And I think a lot of the people in South Africa feel that way that Donald Trump is saving them but from what? It's the US, it's the Anglo-American bloc that created the situation in the country we have now. They plan to put this new African national congress in power that would be completely useless at running a government. Now there's nothing about governing and they would destroy the country. They knew that they would put a useless opposition in place of democratic alliance. There was a fake opposition. They never wanted to govern. I was involved in the democratic alliance and there was no inkling that they were going to want to govern at all. They wanted to remain an opposition party. Which tells you that the status quo was playing out exactly as planned. I was shell shocked when I was told that now we don't want to govern.

1:02:27We also don't want more members. These were things that were said to me. South Africa as a country is strategically important to global powers and certain global elites. Whether it's tech billionaires, whether it is global governments, because just remember Donald Trump isn't just a politician. He is an American elite. That's what he is first and foremost. Donald Trump created Jeffrey Epstein. To be that sugar daddy that we get dirt on people. That was a massacred operation. Donald Trump himself, they have so much dirt on you. He was one of the first people they needed control over. And he is delivering right now. I don't think he has a choice. When it comes to South Africa and these groups wanting to raise awareness for something,

1:03:31that the world knows about. What do they want the world to do? What do they want Donald Trump to do? Sanctions. They want to impose things that's going to hurt the pocket of everyday South Africans. And the other thing that it does, and I mentioned this earlier, is that Donald Trump might get the impetus from his supporters. If he gets reelected in the mutants, or if the Republicans get reelected in the mutants in the House of the Senate, that Donald Trump will have the power and feel that he has the mandate to do more in South Africa, which can include helping in a guasinatal, helping in the Western Cape, or wherever else for the US to have more control than before. If you look at the Atlantic sea bull, it's like a little control center for elite and power. Very rich people are congregated in a very small part of Cape Town Day.

1:04:34And you will see, you'll never see an informal settlement going up there, or anything like that. That area is vehemently protected during the COVID-19 pandemic. People were viciously attacked by riot police, women, and even children. I saw this with my own eyes to protect that territory. That's special protection. And there I say that when Solomon Paul's up, he can present himself in South Africa. The best thing he could do is go and jog amongst those tannies there in Seapoint to just show that I am part of your clan. I will look after your interest. And I think that's a good place to end. Yeah, I'll just quickly round it off by adding that at the beginning of this conversation, I said that I had pushed back from a post that I made on X, where I said that I agreed with the general sentiment of raising awareness around form attacks,

1:05:36but the White Cross project was making me feel uncomfortable. And I was recently in the UK, and while I was sitting on the flight, there was a Dutch woman sitting next to me and we were chatting. And she asked me the question, what do I think would help African countries to rise up out of the third world dump that we're in? And my response to her without even blinking in I was, I don't want any foreign interference. Trade, I'm happy with, but not political foreign interference of which we have plenty. I don't only agree with her Jeremy, I am so pleased that there is another person that have come to that sort of conclusion with regards to how you see politics in South Africa. South Africa can become a superpower. We have incredible resources in this country. We have diverse climate. We have so much going for us.

1:06:36And the global elites see this, make no mistake. We are heavily on their radar. And they want a lot more from us than the people of South Africa. Maybe the people of South Africa are their greatest Achilles heel. And maybe they don't have our best interest at all. I certainly know for a fact that Donald Trump does not. All right, there's how can I follow your work? Well, basically the YouTube channel double a days. People can just type in double a days and you will find most of the social media links where people can basically hear my perspective on history as well as the future, especially the future of South Africa and the world as I see it. Thank you for joining me in the trenches, Deathbatter.