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1:55This is the Rich Eisen Show. I'm Ray Smith 56 yards! Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. You know, to get a big victory, I guess a division rival. I mean, this is what you dream about. Earlier on the show, Royals first-pasteman, Vinnie Pascuantino. Coming up, former NFL head coach, Sean McDermott, Academy Award-winning actor, Mahershala Ali. And now, Rich Eisen. I'm John D'Aurre, our number two of the Rich Eisen Show on the year. And what's more likely Friday, we'll get that out in the front and center here on the program. In short order, 844-204 Rich to call us on the WeatherTech Fan Line. Phone lines are lit. We'll take your calls shortly. Already had a chat with Vinnie Pascuantino or the Royals about the baseball playoffs that's entering the divisional round starting tomorrow with a quadruple header. Our number three, the Academy Award-winning Mahershala Ali, will join us on the program. And then again, there's you at 844-204 Rich, number two.

2:59Back here on the program, eight years as a defensive coordinator in the league, nine years as the HD of the Buffalo Bills, Sean McDermott. Back here on the program. Good to see you, Sean. How are you? Great to see you. Great to be with you guys today. I'm doing well. Well, if you are. Standing. Let's jump into the Thursday night football game. First playoff game you coached with Josh Allen was in Houston against his Sean Watson. And the Watson we're seeing now, is he reminiscent in any way to you of those Houston years? Sean. It's funny you asked that. I was watching the game last night and I thought exactly that, Rich. We mean going back to the Sean in Houston and that's where he had his best years, right? And you know, he was a dual threat, but he also could throw the football just from a efficiency standpoint. You saw that last night again. You saw a little bit of him extending plays and getting the ball to his check down, getting the ball down the field. But then you also saw this element of the zone read where he was carrying the ball himself.

4:02And definitely reminiscent of what he was and how he played so well in Houston. Yeah, I mean, the thing that that was reminiscent for me was was exactly what you said, the extending of plays. It was very difficult in the first half for the Steelers to get him down on the ground and get off the field themselves defensively. He was sometimes seemingly dead to rights in the pocket. And then off he went, that's the guy that we saw so much in Houston in my mind. Yeah, no, for sure. And you know, it's good to see him back getting back to that form because he is so dangerous. And when you're a dual threat to not only run up, but to throw it, it makes for a headache for a defensive coordinator. And what I thought he was really good at last night was that plus like I mentioned, just so efficient, especially in the first half. And then obviously comes back and leads him to the win from a tie sport game. So that's hard to do in and of itself.

5:04But it's glad I'm happy to see him back to form again. Well, and in terms of in terms of this team and where I can go and how they're set up when you're three and one coming out of September, technically they did play the first game of October on Thursday night. That's what you're looking for, right? I mean, you're as Todd Monkin said, you're games to matter. And I'm just so fascinated with him, the HC here, with these guys who as I mentioned now, you know, at the top of the show, some of them are damn near a third of his age, right? And he's coming in with no head coaching experience and laying down laws and sounding like the nickname I saw online for him is chill parcels, you know, like he's old school, but in a different 21st century way, do you ever cross paths with him? Sean, you know, it's interesting. We I didn't really know Todd well. I knew his work, but I had never really interacted with him and then

6:06funny stories. So he reaches out this past, I believe was early March. And he was really curious about my first team meeting in 2017 and Buffalo. And that's not something I've ever been asked before as a head coach in my nine seasons in Buffalo. Or just a question that, you know, people are vulnerable enough to ask. We get asked questions about scheme and leadership and so on and so forth, but Todd reached out and he wanted to know about my team meeting, my first team meeting, and he had heard about it and really how, you know, I connected the building and you know, made sure everybody valued each and every department, not just the football departments. And it really just struck me, and this is not about me, it's about Todd, what struck me about it was how vulnerable one has to be to reach out to appear about a question like a team meeting,

7:11especially when he just got his job and he's about to go into his first team meeting with his new group. And I just, I found that very humbling on his part, you know, certainly an honor for me for someone to ask that of me, but just the vulnerability. And I think that's what you're seeing with Todd in front of his team, right? The locker room values and respects and buy in increases when you're your true authentic self, your vulnerable, you show a little bit of humor from time to time and and certainly humble and and so that combined with what Coach Tomlin did a few weeks ago and basically dropping a gift into coach's lap, coach Munkins lap with, you know, the Browns comment. And what that did in my estimation, that was a gift because every coach loves to be doubted, the locker room loves to be doubted. But even saying more is, you know, when you

8:17when you belong to something bigger than oneself, it has a special feeling that comes with it. And and I think that's what happened when they were able to share that experience together, what was a new locker room, some new faces, certainly Todd's face, new coaching staff. Now they were able to to go through that experience together as a team and it brought them out better because of it. And you can see that in the style of play, even from last night's game. And you could just tell that they're all together, they're bought in and they're on a roll. That's for sure. Yeah, as a guy who loves kickers though, I didn't appreciate him begrudgingly giving a game ball to his kicker and then saying kicking him out of the out of the huddle. That that's him, man. I do, I do, I do, I do get a kick out of it. And it's old school, it's new school. It's an interesting school to say the least. And then before we move on to other matters about the third than I football game, Sean McDermott, watching the game and seeing the

9:24interaction one way to put it between Aaron Rogers and Mike McCarthy, certainly in that one drive where it seemed like the play wasn't coming in fast enough for Aaron who profanely let it be known. He wasn't happy and then McCarthy's, you know, lip reading is is an art but didn't need to be need a master's degree to see what his response was. How does that hit you as former head coach former DC here? I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't I didn't see anything. Yeah, you're very observant. Thank you. It's that's that's the real part of the sideline. And what, you know, with more and more cameras, people are seeing is there's some lip reading going on there, obviously. But very little is hidden from public view during a game on the sideline in particular. And I would say this like it's a good thing they don't have recordings of the coach's headsets because it's even it's even less g-rated

10:25than than what we experienced last night. I can share some stories but no, it's look it's that interaction to me is obviously those two have been around each other a long time. They have enough respect for each other that they wanted to run it back together. And to me, it's no different than you know, I grew up with a brother. We go out in the backyard. We think it's going to be a football game. It turns into a wrestling match. I've got him in a headlock. He's got me in a headlock. But then about two hours later we're sharing a meal at the same dinner table. So that's kind of how I view that relationship. And sometimes, you know, what goes on on the sideline, two very competitive people right there, two well accomplished people as well. And so, but you saw them, you saw them smiling after one of the series as well. So I think that just goes with any with any good relationship. Well, but I I'm looking at it though from and I totally got that. But is there there's sometimes

11:25a germ of truth and everything, you know what I mean? And and and I understand that you can put it aside and sit at the same if you will football dinner table certainly later on in a game and which they almost won, right? I get it. But is there a gear grinding that when December hits, that could be particularly counterproductive or do you or do you say something to put this to bed? There's nothing to put to bed. Move on. Well, there's so much that people don't see too that on the Monday through Saturday, normal process. I guarantee you that coach coach McCarthy and and Aaron are they're in those meetings together. They're talking about things. They're joking about life. Maybe even joking about what what occurs on game days. It's just kind of it goes with the territory a little bit and those two, like I said, they just been together so long they know each other's strengths, but they also know each other's weaknesses, which is which is powerful.

12:26So I'm McDermott here on the Rich Eyes and Show. Best team you've seen yet. Now we're we're three plus weeks in. Best one. I think I would start with Kansas City. You know, it never it never ceases to amaze me how Andy and I was with him for 12 years, how he continues to adapt and evolve year to year. And obviously he had this vision for his offense back and at a minimum free agency with the acquisition of the running back and what they've been able to do with Patrick under center. And then they also they have a great defense to begin with with coach bags. And so I would start there and naturally and expectantly the bills, you know, where they were last year an inch away from the FC championship game again. And then the way that they've added to certain positions and in certain positions gotten younger, I thought, you know, they're off to a great start as well and looking good. And then you know, the other team I would mention would be the Raiders.

13:27Maybe a little bit of surprise to some people, but they're three and all with a big game looming this week. All right. Let's start there. There's a follow up. Are the Raiders for real at three and all Sean McDermott? Great question. You know, like anything, when you get into a situation where you're off to a great start, especially when nobody expected it, right? Nobody expected or very few expected the Raiders to do this. What coach Kubeak has done is he's changed the environment and the belief to this point, at least as to who they are. And that locker room has to believe, right? And so I would say that's the key first step. The reality of it is though right now, this is a big time opponent coming to town to Vegas this weekend. And that matchup with the Chiefs is real. And to me, this is one of those buy-in moments for the Raiders, whereby they win this game, not only have they finished off the buy-in with the locker room, but the buy-in spreads

14:34to every corner of the building at that point. And then goes into the community as well. That's part of what your job is, is to provide hope to a community. And you do that by winning in a similar way. We were in 2017 going against Andy out in Kansas City. And that we were about giving ourselves a chance to have a chance, middle of the season to make the playoffs. And we hadn't been there in 17, 17 seasons where the bills hadn't been there in 17 seasons. So in our first year, we got to Kansas City and take on the Chiefs a good team at that point. And we beat them on the road at their place. And I mean, that for us really put a lot of wind at our back. And was a big time buy-in piece for us because it could go the other way as well. You have some success against some teams, but you go up against one of the better teams around the league historically. And you can be

15:39ahead and then all of a sudden find a way to lose it. And those are some of those moments that teams and organizations experience kind of the, you know, here we go moments. Here we go again moments. So you really want it to be a full buy-in type of moment. And that's what I believe the Raiders are facing this weekend. Yeah. Resident Rich Eisen show Buffalo Bill's Mafioso, Mike Hoskins, my coordinator producer just got on my ear to say that that game in Kansas City came after the five interception Nathan Peterman contest as well. So nobody was thinking you were going into that building and went into that game. Coach. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I think we lost a couple on a row there too. And that was a huge. I remember one of the first questions from the reporters and my press conference was you could just tell even the reporters that the Buffalo Beat reporters that they were believing also in terms of, you know, how we were going and how we were getting it done. And Josh Allen arrives a year later and then here we are to this moment and just cycling back, circling back to the bills. The conversation right now nationally is

16:41Allen's out of his skull as usual. And, you know, Joe Brady's in his bag. But defensively, this team needs to tighten the bolts here if they do want to make people finally die happy in Western New York. What's your two cents on that since that was obviously an area of the football for you and focus? Yeah. Well, obviously, Josh, this is a Josh Allen lead team, right? And he's done a phenomenal job. Offensively, there's scoring a lot of points. He's doing a great job spreading the ball around. Defensively, they've had some good moments and they've had some moments. I'm sure that they want back and that's natural. I would say that, you know, just I'm super proud of watching Deanna Walker and and and Greg Rousseau in the years that they're off to at this point in the season. And I expect both and great things to continue for both of those players. And, you know, it just takes some time once in a while to get some things connected. The way you wanted to get connected the way it needs to get connected and then the communication between the back seven and the front and the front and the back seven. And that's that's that's imperative that they get that

17:46they continue to get that ironed out. I'm sure they will. All right. Last one for your coach before I let you go on your Friday and your weekend. Sean McVeigh's Rams in Denver on Sunday night. Big moment in the game where it looked like Josh Wallace their corner came up with a game ceiling interception if not for the fact that he was also flagged for defensive pass and appearance. And McVeigh said in his press conference on Thursday the league told him that it wasn't passing to appearance after all. What does that like to be on the business end of a conversation like that as a head coach in the national football league? Well, I can promise you that it doesn't change the result, right? You don't go from having one in the in the L column to one in the W in the win column. But no, it's it's it's with the with the league mandates is a 24 hour pooling off here. And it's for good reason because you it is an emotional game as we've already talked about. And you know, we all want to win. We spend a lot of time

18:47away from our families trying to trying to win and compete at a high level. So, you know, when you get a situation like that, what unfolds inside an NFL building is usually you'll make a call as a head coach or a GM and a head coach will get together and do the same. Or even once in a while, you get an owner involved and he'll sit in here. She will sit in on the call and and or the league will reach out to the individual clubs to talk about and really build alignment around how they saw it versus, you know, how we see it as a team. So, I'm sure one of those two things unfolded whether Sean reached out or the league reached out to Sean and what comes of that is really the ultimate goal is again, you can't change the result, but the ultimate goal in this case is really alignment and being on the same page with, hey, how are we going to fishate this going forward? Nobody expects the officials to be perfect. It's a tough job. But the end of the day, we are searching for and the

19:51goal needs to remain being consistency game to game. And I think that's the that's the thing at the bottom of all this here. Do you ever did you ever let the individual who's telling you we got it wrong? Half it. Did you give them the old what for after that? They didn't always see the best the best version of me on on Monday mornings. So yeah, once in a while that that happens. But again, it's at the end of the day, it's you can you can kind of go down that path or you can work on finding a proper solution to the situation and the players need that right? So every Friday we would go back to deliver the message to the players when necessary in terms of, hey, how this is going to get officiated going forward because that's all you can focus on at that point in time is trying to get the next win. And you do that by certainly knowing the rules because it allows the players to play fast and free. All right, I lied. I got one more for you because the bills are welcoming in the Patriots

20:55and Drake may coming in and he doesn't look like the same quarterback as last year. Was there ever a crisis of confidence involving Josh Allen early on in his career that you had to deal with as a step never, yeah, never. I mean, Josh is naturally a confident person. Right. And but what is and what I would say is important, whether it's Drake May, Josh or any player is that the belief in that player never waivers and that's something I learned under Andy, Andy with Donovan years ago, that player is that job that that quarterback has is a different job than any other job in the NFL and possibly professional sports. It's very similar to the head coach's job in a lot of ways. But I would say even more so because they are the face of the franchise, these quarterbacks, you know, May in this case Josh Allen. So it is imperative that that that you as

22:01a head coach as a coaching staff, they believe in your quarterback and then his confidence and psyche remains exactly where it needs to be. There's going to be ups and there's going to be downs. Obviously May is going through some of the downs right now, but he's got a great coaching staff around him and Vraeves and Josh McDaniels and he's obviously got the skill he's shown it before. And so this game this weekend will be a great opportunity for him to get back on track. Sean, you're the man. I already look forward to the next time. Really appreciate it. Yes, well, thanks for it. Great to be with you. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean McTermine here on the right. We take a break real quick in terms of those phone calls. I'm sure the Rams cut up every different angle of that pass into fear and call, send it to the league or call them up whatever both. And those conversations as you heard Sean say, sometimes the officiating department did not get the best version of him. Right. So if you recall, an NFL network launched one of the many

23:09things we tried to do is give you the name the Daily Show total access because we wanted to give you access that only NFL network could deliver because we were NFL owned and operated. So one of the first things we did, and I think expertly I might add, which is to have the head of NFL refs Mike Pereira on the show in a segment called official review, where I would go through some controversial calls from the weekend and he would explain what the what was. And we would do that on a Monday. So it was fresh. And you know, Mike and I would have some, you know, back and forth. I would push back. He was completely cool with it. And we would do it. Lo and behold, after a couple seasons of doing it, we would do that segment on a Wednesday

24:11because when the NFL coaches call up and they call up Mike Pereira's office and Mike is unavailable because he's shooting a segment with NFL network. That went over like the proverbial wet air in a place of religion. And coaches were like, where is he? He's going to get back to me when because he's doing what now? But they didn't cancel the segment. They just delayed it. So Mike could deal with the many people calling him up for his time. And of course, what do you think? It was probably the time bell check. All right. Sure. And it was the 20 minute window. Mike was away from his phone because he was in the makeshift NFL studio in network studio and the league headquarters that was built just because we were created. I remember those stories. I won't point out, I'm like,

25:12why are we not doing this on a Monday? This is a great segment for us. Well, segment didn't take some priority. Where's Mike now talking to who? Rich? Yeah. Didn't go over well. 844204 Rich number to dial right here on the program. It's a what's more likely Friday here on the program. Our friends at SoFi before we take our break, want to remind you to please check them out to try and pull off the debt-defying stunt you thought is not possible. Overcoming high interest credit card debt. So you can walk the tight rope of your finances right now with one low fixed rate monthly payment. No fees required. It is soon as the same day funding with a SoFi personal loan. Pull it off by going to SoFi.com slash trick to learn more. Loans originated by SoFi bank NA member FDIC terms and conditions apply NML 696891

26:12844204 Rich. Call it. We'll take your calls and what's more likely coming up. 844204 Rich. Taking a quick break to tell you how Saturday's game time can get a little messy. Your crew just came over to watch. Snacks on the table drinks in hand and somebody celebrating like they just won the whole season and beyond. And when that energy gets going, your walls can end up taking the hit. Whether it's a big spill or a noticeable scuff, that's where bare ultra interior paint comes in. It adds an extra durable stain blocking finish that helps your walls hold up for the whole season. It also delivers outstanding coverage and hide in fewer coats with easy application and a smooth even finish that goes on clean from the first pass. Plus that easy clean finish helps walls stay looking new longer. So before the next kickoff, give your space game ready defense and coverage that goes the distance. Bare ultra only at the home depot. 84420 Rich. I was in here for Gusto. On my show is we talk a lot about what happens in the

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28:13when you run your first payroll. That's three months of free payroll at gusto.com slash rich. One more time, gusto.com slash rich in a world in need of a hero. One man rises to the challenge in style. He is just driving the kids to soccer practice. Make everyday feel epic in an all-new Hyundai Palisade hybrid with up to an EPA estimated 619 miles of range on select trims, advanced tech and class leading interior space. Because when your Holland kids gears snacks and bat packs, space matters and so does comfort. Just make sure they keep their cleats off the seats. Visit HyundaiUSA.com or call 5623144603 for details. Back here on the program line, you're high right the first time everybody with LinkedIn hiring pro gets started by posting a free job at LinkedIn.com slash Eisen. William in Topeka, Kansas is on the Weather Tech fan line. Line 2, Jay. What's up, William?

29:17Hello. Thanks for taking my call once again. I want to talk about the Raiders and how I do not think they're real. From Kansas, huh? No disrespect to Jay Feli over there. I'm a fortunate generation cheese fan and I was raised to hate the Raiders. And it makes it more difficult because Mendoza is such a likable guy. I don't know if you guys have seen that state farm commercial. You have seen all. But it's crazy. I'm not sure that they're ready. I think they're maybe they're like the Patriots last year where they got there a little early. Or if maybe I'm kind of coping, but I don't think we're going to lose. Maybe by the way, you may not lose. You may win and the Raiders may still be for real.

30:18We shall see. But this is as interestingly enough what Sean McDermott called a buy-in game. You know that everyone can buy into what's being sold here in a way that, sure, it's not and thanks for the call, William, as he's coping with the Raiders potentially being for real in chief's kingdom there in Kansas, next door to Kansas City, Missouri, as we all know. Listen, the buy-in game, it's not like the Raiders haven't bought into what's being sold. It's just the buy-in can just get that much exponentially bigger is what McDermott's saying. By beating the chiefs like, okay, we are for real. I like the Cleveland. Last night. Right. I mean, what beating the Steelers at home, I guess for fifths of a time, it feels different. It feels different. Right. So that's an interesting thought there. This is a buy-in game for the Raiders. But I just like that a chiefs fan is thinking, yeah, I've grown, I'm supposed to,

31:25I'm not sitting here thinking if life is better in the NFL when the Raiders are relevant. Okay. Chiefs fans are like, nah, we like them as irrelevant as we've ever seen them. I know we'll get to your top five games of the week later, but the three games at 125, Pacific, 425 Eastern. Yeah. Then they're so good. Chiefs Raiders, Broncos, Niners, Chargers, Seahawks. There's a lot at stake. Week four, the stakes are getting bigger and Leon's getting larger. All right. I just went there. I could, I could, whether tech fan line, I want you to know that for American-made floor liners and a cargo liner that laugh in the face of fall weather, visit weathertech.com today. Sneak one more in, Tom and Iowa, my new adopted home state of eye. On air. What's up, Tom? Are you? Well, I'm still getting over where in George Kiddles' slim head helmet, you know, didn't fit. Look, look at it on your rich. I'm not going to lie.

32:25I appreciate it, Tom. I'm sure you, that doesn't surprise me. What's more likely to happen? Chiefs make it back to the Super Bowl or the Raiders make the playoffs. Raiders playoffs. That's more likely that the Raiders make the playoffs or the Chiefs make it back to the Super Bowl. Super Bowl, we're only talking about two teams playoffs. Fourteen. I know. So it's more like you're, you're just going off. I'm playing math. You're playing math. I'm playing math. But the Raiders need to make it. Yeah, I'm playing math. The Raiders need the Raiders to make it and just to just go ahead and solidify it. Seven more wins. Seven more wins. That are the next, out of the next 14 games. Just win half their game. Play 500 football rest of the way. Oh, playing math. I'll say that's more likely than that. Is that the answer you're looking for, Tom? That's the answer I believe. Okay, there you go. Thanks for the call, Tom. Look, see, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm just locked in me. You and I, me and Iowa. You and Iowa. Me and Iowa. Cornfade. Cornfade. Me and Iowa. That should be your nickname. Cornfade. Cornfade, I said,

33:29hopefully that happens to me. I can't believe it. That was so good. I know. I was, I was watching at home set. I mean, like, I got to literally, I got to, I don't know what I need to do here. But it just shows you that life, you never know what's coming your way. Two of the last three Wednesdays. I've worn an Iowa Hawkeye helmet and had my appendix removed. I don't know which was worse. Oh, haven't, haven't aware of Hawkeye helmet was worse. Of course. You're a body. Literally got cut open. I know that. And you had part of I have physical scars. Rest of my days sucked out of you. No doubt. Do we get the appendix yet? Do we have it in the jar? We don't have anything in the jar. It's going to do. This is not young Frankenstein. Okay. And the helmet was worse. Absolutely. I'll never be able to forget that. I was, trust me, I would love to have been knocked out while wearing the helmet. So I don't remember it. I don't remember anything.

34:32I have to remember this. I need a general anesthesia for 10 minutes. I'll make sure some videos remind you forever because I got a bunch of my phone too. I'll send to you. I'm a world. I'm well aware of that. I mean, the video's been already viewed you hundreds of thousands. Yeah. It's out there. Oh my gosh. I can't believe we sent the helmet. All right. Just we just need Iowa finish the job finish the job and win this weekend. Or would you feel a little bit better? Balanced. If they beat Ohio's a little bit better about those. Oh my goodness. Do you know those orange and blue skies that I talk about because the next one at all? Hey, unfortunately. Do you understand how much brighter life gets and how much better the wine taste? Oh man. When the bucks. How the state's 14 point favorites. I mean, in Iowa. Yeah. You know why? Number four in your program. The mutant. That dude. Well, not him there. The mutant. The absolute mutant is how Larry Fitzgerald referred to Jeremiah Smith. So is he going to be the first overall picking a matter of what? No, I don't. That's a tall order. Well, it depends on who's

35:35first overall. That's true because Archibald could choose to stay if he doesn't want to go to like, you know, Archibalds, you know, one thing Archibald's not doing is staying. Oh, I disagree. Okay. Rich really thinks so. Depends on who gets that first. I guess I shouldn't. I guess I shouldn't be so definitive. He might need to improve a little bit. Let's take a break. We'll come back. What's it more likely? Shall be played here on this Friday show Academy Award winner, Mahershal Ali in hour number three. That one. Rich Eisen here with some advice. If high interest credit card debt is grinding you down, it might be time to call an audible with a so-fi personal loan. It consolidates your debt into one low monthly payment with no fees required. And with as soon as the same day funding, you can make the right play fast. Call an audible on your debt today at so-fi.com slash debt play loans originated by so-fi bank NA member FDIC terms and conditions apply NMLS 696891 fast funds terms apply at so-fi.com slash debt play hiring for a small business is hard.

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37:40allowing you to hire the confidence with confidence and build the team you need. So join the 2.7 million small businesses using LinkedIn a hire. Get started by posting your job for free at LinkedIn.com slash Eisen terms and conditions apply. It's a Friday as promise what's more likely presented by Pellow Windows and doors. Hit it. What? What's more likely? Never say never, but never. Man, the browns is the browns cause the three game win streak. He sparked it. Sean McDermott said earlier that that was a gift to Todd Munkin to say browns is the browns. Well, it's a rallying cry. It certainly is. All right. What do you got over there? All right. What's more likely presented by Pellow Windows and doors. Great to see you guys. Happy Friday. Good. Go a great beard. Hey, here we go, guys. They played last night. More likely, AFC North team to win more games this year. Stealers or browns. I mean, Joe Manning, Mangonello had the the Steelers going 12 and 5. I don't see that now.

38:48Man, that's a crazy question. I'm looking at the rest of the way the schedule. They're equally tough. They're equally tough. Oh, man. I'll just go. I'll stick with the Steelers. I said it before this season. I'll go it again. What's more likely? 9889. Where are we talking? It's not that I don't know. I don't have an answer for you. I don't have an answer for you, but these kids are all right and Cleveland and they're good. And they now have a game up on the Steelers. We'll see if I you ask about what's more likely or not. I'll go that way. How about this one? More likely team if they lose on Sunday, you're not counting them out for the playoffs. Rams. Passionate. That's how I pow. Interesting enough that that's one of the choices. That's your man. I didn't even know Cowboys are around. I didn't even notice that you'd put me in a position like that. Why wouldn't I put Rams get out of here, man? Cowboys,

39:51easier division. Come on, Rich Eisen. Which team has Miles Garrett coming back at some point? Anybody? Do we know he's going to back? Okay. How about the other guy? He's got to sore back. Is he playing? He'll play this week. How's Puka? That's a question, Mark. How about Devonte Smith is not playing for Philadelphia? It appears. He's already well. I guess that's it. How about this Ramzone even going to lose? So I won't count out the Cowboys. Is that a better answer? Rams are going to win. And if the Cowboys lose, I won't count you out. Thanks. You're welcome. Appreciate it. All right. How's that for an answer? How's that for an answer? I know where you are going. I don't even have to know where you were putting me in that position or see the graphic. Well, that's the graphic to the punch. Is that like the 200? Mike McCarty and Aaron Rogers of the Rich Eisen show. Yeah. Boo. Boo. How about this one? Is it more likely a big game in Buffalo? No Christian Gonzalez or Christian Barmore suite? That's going to go great for us.

40:51Is it more likely Drake May has more touchdowns in turnovers or Josh Allen personally outscores the Patriots? Oh, I think he'll personally outscore you. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's obvious. I think May will play better. It's going to happen. He's not lost. He's not lost on his shoulder. He is injured. Fine. Then that's another reason why he'll eventually find his footing. It is just not going to be this weekend. Oh, who's going to be a bigger New England sports flop Roman Anthony or Drake May? What's more likely the bills want to beat this team more than any other than the Chiefs or I'm wrong. Yeah. Like, Christianing, they've already christened their new stadium with two consecutive wins. To do it with a win against the franchise that birthed the guy who in the booth seeing the old stadium raised to the ground said, I lost two games there, which would have been.

41:53You know, tough for me to swallow if I didn't win 33 other times. You're funny. Yeah, I mean, they want to lay it on thick. Man, the train whistles going. Alan scored outscores of Patriots. That'll be what they might score 50 to in the air 200 ground. Oh, yeah. So like Paul revered if he get one of the yeah, what if I lay two if I see that's it's okay. So one in the air to 200. That's 24. There's no way the Patscar 24. What else, Chris? More likely to be the higher total Derek Henry rushing yards or Titans total yards. Oh, come on. Give me give me Titans total yards. He's setting the rushing record. I can we all give me prepare for that? I'm not I'm not pushing back on that. Who capes more for Derek Henry than me? Uh, nobody really. No body. That's a lot of tight offense. You think they have 300 yards in it? Yeah, yeah, I do. Bro, you think Jeffrey Simmons is going to let that happen? I think it's up to him. It may not be up to him. Yeah, come on. I'll go Titans total yards.

42:58We got a little backup quarterbacks in action this weekend. More likely to get a win on Sunday. Marcus Mariona or Jalen Daniels. Oh, man. I'll go Jalen Daniels. That would be fun. I'll go with the glue guy from Kansas. How about Highsman Trilfe winner, Andre. No, I know we're going to London taking on the Colts. You know, Terry McCormick popped up on the injury report today. Did he really? I think although Mario to play really well. He did. Geez. Uh, uh, my head says Mario to my heart says Jalen Daniels is going to come in. Did you see the bucks say they want to use Kenny Gainwell more? Good idea. Great for everyone who has it. Well, it's not just the fantasy thing, but the guy was quite literally the best offensive player on the Steelers last year. Backed. And now he's he's a third down back. We're bringing him in on the third down only. And I have bucky Irving and fantasies. Yeah. Bucky's been good, but he has been.

44:04So I mean, maybe a little reset here might help with Jalen Daniels. Both teams really need a win. I'm really comfortable to see in that one. Yeah, could be good. The battle of the bays, like the old NFC central. How about yours? Uh, more likely to be the bigger number on Sunday. Jamest Winston, uh, touchdown throws or, uh, J.J. McCarthy, oh, sorry, I messed this up. I said it wrong. Okay. Uh, moral is it more likely that Jamest Winston throws three touchdowns? Yes, sir. Or J.J. McCarthy starts next week for the J. Um, I will go. Oh, James throws three touchdowns. I don't think J.J. is going to start so damn fast. Although I do like seeing him dapping people up and having fun and headbutt and scatter blue and practice. You see, he's wearing 18 and everyone's making the double nine joke. Whatever, man, whatever. Isaiah likely in terms of what's more likely that he was going to give up his uniform to the new guy. No, see, double nine, fine, great. I get it.

45:05I was nine. I'm nine that whole business. Uh, back off this kid. Back off him. Back off him. Can I say one more time? What else you got? Okay. Few more. A few more. Uh, moral, I could be the bigger threat to the bills and the AFC. This is a showdown on Sunday Jaguars of Bengals. No, man. I've seen so far. I'll go Jaguars. Based on what I've seen so far. The bills. Who do they play? Let's see here. Do they play either one of them? I don't see. No, they don't play either of these guys. No. The Buffalo after taking on New England, at Rams at Vegas, by week, Baltimore, the other AFC teams are Miami Kansas City on a Thanksgiving night. New England again, Denver. That's a big one. So I'll just go Jacksonville.

46:07A huge game in the desert. How about more likely AFC West start to match their season averages on Sunday? Kenneth Walker, 145 TOTA yards and two touchdowns for Brock Bowers. And one game had 10 catches. I'll go Kenneth for a hundred 15 years. Kenneth Walker. That's what I'll do. I don't know what you five total yards. I think that's back. Let's, let's, let's overlook spags at our, uh, at our peril here. What else? More likely Monday headline. Broncos again start slow. Come back, win in San Francisco. Or Brock Perty is your MVP through four weeks. Brock Perty is your MVP through four weeks. He is your offensive player of the month. September for the National Football Conference. And as you know, I've been capin for him well before. I adopted Iowa as my new home state. That's true. So, um, yeah, I, I, I think, um, Perty's NFL MVP through four weeks here. Here we, here we go, which is the Steelers hashtag. Okay. All right. We'll get one.

47:13Take it in. This has been all the headlines this week, guys. So we got to throw here. More likely current NFL coach, you'd be shocked to have a Minecraft addiction. Jim Harbaugh or Mike McDonald. I would go Jim Harbaugh. I'll go Jim. We didn't see Mike Tomwin coming. Didn't see him coming either. Didn't see him come in either. Uh, Taylor, not that impressed by his Minecraft city. Really? The Minecraft person in the house. What's more likely is brought to you by Pella Windows and doors when it comes to your home. Pella Windows and doors always have the winning game plan. That's why your neighbors trust them. Visit Pella.com slash Eisen everybody. My Herschel Oli, our three coming up. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eyes and Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eyes and Show live weekdays from noon to three Eastern on ESPN radio, Disney Plus and on the ESPN app, the Rich Eyes and Show, the podcast. One last thing before you go. When the pressure's on, you find out what's really built to last.

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