FlyDubai pilot attack: Passenger hero saves 174 lives

0:00You're listening to the Hidden Lightness on America Out Loud Talk Radio. I'm your host Jimmy Hinton. As we have September 11 in the rearview mirror, that marked 25 years since the worst terror attack on American soil. It involved commercial airliners, four of them all intended to crash into innocent people, destroy property, and wreak havoc on the American people in the American economy. Well of course, we know that plane number four, flight 93, which crashed just one mile from my mother's home, the home where I grew up. There were heroes on board flight 93 who weren't going to allow hijackers to crash that into

1:04a building. They very bravely, very heroically overtook the cockpit. They rammed a cart into the cockpit repeatedly. They had a plan. They had worked together under tremendous pressure and unfortunately crashed in a field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. However, the crisis of hitting a building, we don't know still what exactly the target was. Many people think the White House were the Capitol building, but either way, one crisis was averted and another tragedy took place. But it's the heroism of those passengers that is going to be remembered forever. Well, that ties into today's story. As you all I'm sure have heard, on September 30th, there was a fly to buy pilot who stabbed

2:16his fellow pilot and attempted to crash the airplane. Now, we don't know what his target was yet. We don't know why. We don't know what. What we do know is that he very successfully stabbed the captain and the plane plummeted at a rate of something like 15,000 feet and 30 seconds. Absolutely, unbelievable. Parts of the plane got overstressed, part of a rudder fell off. The plane fortunately stayed together. The heroic pilot was able to fight back, but it was the bravery of a passenger that caught my attention. Now this caught my attention being from Shanksville myself, from knowing very intimately what happened aboard Flight 93 from visiting the crash site many, many times.

3:20This is something that people around the world will never forget. That's why it's so important that they don't forget. I would like to believe, now we don't know for certain, but I would like to believe that those passengers who stepped in and they had very, very limited time, I mean very limited time. But they stepped in, along with a flight attendant, they somehow were able to get into the cockpit. And they were able to wrestle away the hijacker who happened to be one of the pilots, which absolutely crazy to me. My goodness. Absolutely crazy. It reminds me a little bit of what happened not that long ago. In fact it was on July 12th, 2025, just last year.

4:22Air Canada flight A1, I think it's A1, AI can't really make out the letters, AI or AL171. You remember that it was a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner, headed to London, a crashed in India killing 260 people, including 19 on the ground. Now both engine fuel switches were abruptly moved to the off position by one of the pilots, shortly after takeoff. That's obviously the investigation, I guess, is still in limbo. So they are urging patients right now, but it appears that based on how those switches are designed, you have to lift up a safety kind of a safety glass to get to the switches.

5:25That way you can't just inadvertently bump those switches or accidentally flip them when you think that you're flipping some other switch. It's an extra precaution where you have to intentionally lift the glass that's on a hinge, or plastic, whatever it is, but you have to lift a little window to get to the switches. Both of the switches were cut off simultaneously, which means, I mean, the investigators aren't saying it, but virtually every pilot who I've ever listened to said you cannot flip those switches without doing it intentionally. Now right, and this isn't the first or even second instance of a pilot attempting to crash a plane. I believe there's one in left Portland or Seattle somewhere in the northwest. That wasn't that long ago. Same kind of incident. Here we go. Back up, that was an off-duty pilot named Joseph David Emerson, who tried to shut down

6:30the engines of Alaska Airlines Flight 2059 from a cockpit jumpsie. That was October 22, 2023, not even three years ago. All right, and I could list a whole bunch of these. This is not a one-off. There have been successful pilots taking planes down. I know it's really difficult to talk about this stuff, but it's a reality. We need to talk about it. We need to think through these kinds of scenarios. Both the pilots on Alaska Airlines Flight 2059 did an incredible job. I think beat the crap out of that guy and did it very, very quickly. They immediately communicated with air traffic control, called in emergency, and they got the plane on the ground in very short order. They identified what he was trying to do, and it was about 30 minutes into the flight at

7:35cruising altitude. And Joseph Emerson said, I'm not okay. That was the only thing he said before he tried to pull the engine fire extinguisher T handles. And what those handles do is it closes the valve in the wing that cuts off the end of the engine. So the flight crew quickly stopped them. They reset the handles so that the engines kept running. I can't imagine how panic they were in that situation. But here's the point that I want to make with all of these stories, and they all have the same theme running through them. People are prepared. You see on September 11th, 25 years ago, people were not prepared. They'd not experienced anything like this, or at least not on a large scale. And so what September 11th did is it taught us all of us to think differently, to think

8:37in terms of real threats, real threat versus perceived threat. And to think through different scenarios, what would I do if I was on the very first airplane on September 11th? What would I do if I was on the second? What would I do if I saw people stand up and stab flight attendants? Which is what happened on September 11th. And so people think through these kinds of scenarios now. And I think that's a good thing. Not that people were paranoid. It's that September 11th taught us something about bravery. It taught us something about heroism, particularly United Flight 93. It taught us that if we push back, if we refuse to let evil win, perhaps just perhaps, we might be able to save other passengers, and innocent people on the ground.

9:41And that's precisely what happened on September 30th. Through the brave, heroic acts of a flight attendant and a passenger, they were able to successfully get into the cockpit. I'm going to read a couple of the details about this. It's really a fascinating story. It's frightening, but it's fascinating. And everybody survived. The attacker aboard a flight-to-by flight has been taken into custody. US officials told Fox News on Wednesday. The officials said the attacker was taken into custody when the flight landed in Saudi Arabia. Earlier, Fox News correspondent David Spunt asked US Attorney General Todd Blanch about the incident during a separate department at Justice Press Conference. It's very active, Blanch, instead of the incident. There's active investigations going on in Israel and elsewhere. We're coordinating very closely with our counterparts overseas.

10:46It would be, I think, inappropriate for me to talk, to speculate beyond what's already being said by the folks over there, just to be sure we're in what we have a great relationship with Israel. And we've been coordinating with them since this happened, and we'll continue to do so. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Reuters that the suspect was arrested after the plane made an emergency landing in Saudi Arabia, while an Israeli official speaking to the outlet identified the co-pilot as an Omani National. Now what's fascinating is when the plane landed on the ground, President Netanyahu met with the passenger, Prime Minister, rather. Netanyahu met with the passenger who stormed the cockpit. This guy still had blood stains on his shirt, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gave him a big hug.

11:48It was a really emotional meeting. This man is a hero. And he stood up to evil. And I really honest to goodness, I think I'm sure that people remember United Flight 93 on September 11th. People remember. They remember the heroism. They remember the bravery. They remember that the passengers refused to give up. They fought back. This is really, really good news for us because it created a framework from which we can understand evil. People still think in terms of a lot of people do. Let me put it that way. A lot of people think in terms of we're dealing with normal people. So I have friends who are pacifists.

12:53Like they won't even throw punches if they're in a situation like that, at least theoretically. Now I happen to believe that people, people remember how to naturally be brave, right? We all have a little bit of fight in us. But some people really do freeze and that's okay. Not everybody is wired the same. They used to talk about a fight or flight response. Well, some people have a freeze response. Fight, flight, and freeze are the three responses now recognized and that's perfectly okay. Some people just jump right into action. I think it's important for all of us, no matter how you react, how you respond, it's important for us to think through these issues. How would I respond? What if this scenario unfolded?

13:54What if somebody hijacked a plane? When I fly, I tend to watch people very, very closely. I don't put my nose down in a phone and have no awareness whatsoever what's going around, phone on around me. And that's just how I'm wired. And I think about, I think often, not just about the four planes on September 11th, but the flights that I just mentioned, the Air India flight, the Alaska Airlines flight. These are pilots doing this crap. Now it's not like these are passengers who are trying to hijack the plane. It's pilots who are literally trying to crash the planes into the ground, experience pilots. Good pilots, skilled pilots. And so I'm not in the camp that we're dealing with a full deck of cards.

14:57Never take anything for granted. Never get so comfortable right because there are so few crashes when it comes to airplanes. So few crashes. It's so incredibly safe to fly. I love to fly. I absolutely love it. It's very, very safe. But never get so complacent. Never get so comfortable that we forget this sometimes deranged people are behind behind the cockpit controls, right? Sometimes it happens. It's rare. It's extremely rare. But we need to be prepared as passengers, as citizens, as aware people who care for innocent people. You can't hug these people back to sense. And that's what my pastivist friends, they're always like, oh, well, if we talk to them about the Lord, maybe the gunman would put the gun down.

15:58And like, on what planet do you live on? Yeah, I think there's one case. There's one really rare case. This was years ago where an employee at a school started praying. There was a gunman who came in and she began to pray. And suddenly this man's the gunman has demeanor started to change. And well, she de-escalated the situation. But that is so incredibly rare. That is by far the exception and not the norm. When people are behind a trigger and they're going to kill innocent people, are behind a hijacking and they're going to take down a whole plain full of innocent people, you're not dealing with a full deck. We must act. All right. We're coming up on a break here. Be sure to check out the America Out Loud store where you will find incredible deals, use

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19:20The plane was on its way from Dubai to Israel. The pilot stabbed a fellow pilot and attempted to crash the plane. However, due to the heroic actions of a very brave flight attendant and a passenger, crisis was averted. Not barely, at one point the airplane plummeted something like 15,000 feet in 30 seconds. That blows my mind. And it blew parts off of the plane. Now, the plane can't take that amount of overspeed and planes are only designed to take so much stress and that stressed it beyond what its engineered capabilities were. However, they were able to bring the plane back under control. The injured pilot was taken back and given medical care, medical aid. The other passenger was bound and passengers helped to tie him up, apparently.

20:30And they're happy to be two other pilots on board who were able to successfully land the airplane. They landed in Saudi Arabia, which is incredible. I mean, everything about the story really is incredible. And I always go back to September 11th and that taught us something as Americans. It taught us how to fight back. It taught us how to be brave through the example of other people. Now I'm not saying that that's the first time ever that people were brave and thought off would be hijackers. I'm going to go through a list just to show you that this is not as rare as what you think it is. I already mentioned a few, but here are a few others going back to 1960. Kubanah Flight 905. The co-pilot for domestic Cuban DC 3 hijacked the aircraft and forced it to fly to Key West, Florida to defect and seek political asylum.

21:31Federal Express Flight 705 1994. An off-duty FedEx flight engineer, Auburn Callaway attempted to hijack a cargo DC-10 and killed the active flight crew so he could crash it for insurance money. You see what I mean with not dealing with a full deck here? The active pilots fought back brutally and landed safely despite severe injuries. See what I mean is not the first time that pilots fought back. This is pre-911. Silk Air Flight 185 1997. Captain Su Wei Ming was strongly suspected by safety investigators of intentionally putting the Boeing 737 into a rapid fatal dive into an Indonesian river killing all 104 on board,

22:33though definitive consensus on mode of remained split. LAM Mozambique Airlines Flight 470. This was in the year 2013. Captain Hormoneo, Dos Santos, Fernandez intentionally locked the flight deck door and maneuvered the Embraer 190 into a fatal descent in Namibia, killing all 33 on board. German wings flight 9525, that was in 2015. I remember this one. I remember very clearly this one. I've watched short documentaries on this. Copilot, Andreas Lubitz locked the captain out of the cockpit during a flight from Barcelona to back to Germany, Jusseldorf, and intentionally crashed the Airbus A320 into the French Alps, resulting in 150 fatalities.

23:35As I remember right, the pilot had gone to the restroom, while he was out, the copilot locked him out and intentionally flew it into the French Alps. Ethiopian Airlines Flight 702 in 2014. The copilot locked the captain out of the cockpit when in route from Adis Ababa to Rome, and flew the Boeing 767 to Geneva, Switzerland, and surrendered to authorities to request political asylum. No passengers were harmed. And on and on, I gave you three more examples that were really recently. I mean, don't ever just assume that when you step on an airplane, everything is safe and everything is great and everything is fine. Now I'm not saying that we should be paranoid. In fact, I'm saying the exact opposite. We should not be paranoid.

24:36Paranoia does no good. I once had somebody ask actually multiple times people asked me this, but when I would train churches for child sexual abuse prevention, I'd share some of my story and they were like, so how do you keep from getting incredibly paranoid? How are you not knowing what you know about your father and about abuse and how it works and how abusers work and how they think? How are you not walking around paranoid all the time? Am I response to that is, paranoia actually has a counter effect. It actually makes us less safe because then you're suspecting everybody and some people operate that way. They're like, well, it could be anybody. They're trainings that tell people that it could be anybody. Well, that's not helpful.

25:36It could be anybody. That doesn't tell us what to look for. That makes us paranoid. It makes us have clouded judgment. So a better way is to say, it could be somebody. It could be somebody on this plane or not, but I'm going to keep my eyes open and I'm going to look for signs of distress. I'm going to look for signs of mental illness. We do fly with people who are mentally ill. I've been at an airport several times where I've seen people absolutely have like manic breakdowns. So this woman that has so crazy and nobody, nobody at the time is doing anything about it. So I just went and got a police officer and I was like, you got to get rid of this lady. She's freaking nuts.

26:38No, not to be mean, but she was nuts. She was yelling at people, berating people, talking to herself, pumping her arms in the air like she was punching somebody, just going on and on and on about God knows what. And she was supposed to be on my flight. Like, there's no way. There's no way I'm flying with that woman. So I went and got police and I was like, you got to take care of her. And I can't believe none of the employees said anything. Like she was making a big scene. So anyway, look for these kinds of signs. Listen to what people are saying. Pay attention. Because it could and it does save lives. So yeah, there are multiple, multiple flights where people were quick on their feet. They were heroic. They acted immediately.

27:39And it's not just airplanes. We're not just talking about planes here. Now, remember the story. I don't remember the details. Usually when I do a story, I get foggy on the details, but it was that gunman who walked into the school. And the, what was it? The superintendent. I tackled him immediately. Just drove this dude into the ground and saved. He got shot in the arm in the process or leg or something, but he saved many, many lives that day. He recognized the threat and he had planned. They said he was like very, very trained for this. And he said he lived and breathed training, training for these kinds of incidents. And it's interesting, right? None of us ever think that this would happen to us.

28:40None of us gets on an airplane or walks to school or drops our kids off at school. I dropped my kids off at school this morning and I wasn't thinking, well, there could be a school shooting today. I wasn't thinking that. Not even on my radar. Not that I don't have an awareness that it could happen. But that's what I mean. There's a difference between being paranoid and being trained. We talked to our kids about it. Our school does a magnificent job of doing trainings. They train the students for active shooters among other other incidents. They do drills. I know there are some people who absolutely hate that. They're like, oh, that's traumatizing to the kids. I'm like, you know, it's more traumatizing to the kids. Not being aware, not being trained. And then something actually does happen. That's more traumatic.

29:42I'd much rather have the trauma, quote, I'm using my famous air quotes here. My kids have never been traumatized by these trainings. They do a really, really good job. I'm definitely an advocate for these kinds of trainings. But what I would like to see, what I would like to advocate for are trainings that when you get on an airplane, instead of them holding up the little brochure things that they hold up and they're like, okay, ladies and gentlemen, please look up here. Pay attention. Not one person is looking up. Let's be honest, not one person is paying attention. Not one. And it's very scripted and they go over like very basic, like, floatation devices are here

30:43or there under the seat or up above you. If you're sitting by and emergency exit, be ready to help people evacuate, you know, those sorts of things. If an oxygen mask drops, you know, they talk about those things, but what they don't talk about. And I'd like this to change is if you suspect something, if you think that even anything is off, here's how you report it. Here's who you tell. Here's where your call button is or shout or make a big scene. Tell all the passengers around you and have one of them call somebody, right? They don't train you how to do those things and I really wish they would. I wish they would train the passengers and maybe one day they will. You know, there are enough of these incidents that I would think it'd be worth their time. It doesn't take long. It takes them how long to go through their little brochure.

31:44A minute, minute and a half. What if, what if they added about what if there's a hijacker? What if one of the pilots comes out and starts being erratic? Do you remember that just reminded me? Do you remember that one pilot who had an absolute meltdown over her dress? They ended up, I think the police came and put her off the flight. Yeah, here we go. That was a United Airlines flight. United Airlines pilot was removed from a flight in February 2017. After boarding a civilian in civilian clothes and going on an emotional intercom rant about her personal life and politics, I remember seeing the video. I watched a video. It was like a train wreck. You couldn't not watch it. That was February 11, 2017, United Airlines flight 455 from Austin, Texas to San Francisco. The captain boarded the aircraft wearing street clothes instead of her pilot uniform.

32:50And immediately started in on the passengers asking them to vote on whether she should fly as she was or change her uniform. And people were like stunned. They just sat there in silence like what in the world is happening right now. Other than she lost it. Over the PA system, the cabin PA system she discussed her recent divorce made comments about political figures and spoke erratically causing visible distress and concern among passengers. Roughly, a dozen or more passengers chose to deplane after feeling unsafe while others live tweeted the bizarre event. The United Airlines replaced the captain with a new pilot. And I think she ended up being arrested. And then it had a mental evaluation. I hope to God she lost her license and never got it back.

33:51I mean, it was really bizarre. But that's my point. When you see something, you gotta say something. And if it's the captain of your airplane, especially if it's the captain of the airplane. You know, if it's a passenger, there's not a whole lot they can do. I mean, theoretically. But if your pilot has lost their marbles, and that's why, you know, I kind of want to tie this in a little bit to the Lindsey Clancy case. That's why I do finally want to do a show on that because the lone juror finally spoke up and man was it powerful. It was so good. I mean, absolutely incredible. Anyway, Lindsey Clancy, you know, I did talk a little bit about this. How we, not we, how a whole bunch of women, like held her up as a hero.

34:51This woman who murdered her three innocent children in cold blood. And admitted to it, she never denied it. And people were wearing pink and support and they just loved her and they were like virtually fainting whenever she would drive by. I mean, really, really bizarre. There are still Lindsey Clancy Wacos, her post and all kinds of crazy stuff online. And I'm like, can you imagine like, a Lindsey Clancy pilot coming on to a plane and people were like, oh, we support you, you know, wearing pink, we support you. She literally just murdered three innocent children and now she's flying her airplane and you're like, oh, we love you. We love you, Lindsey. What in the world, do you realize how bizarre and sick this is? Right now, I'm not denying that Lindsey Clancy has a lot of mental stuff going on.

35:52I think she's mentally not well. You know, clearly, but to hold her up as some kind of hero and wonderful mother who just had a bad day, man, that's messed up. Absolutely. Like they don't, they want her to get off. You have jurors going around on a, on a media tour, talking about how like, well, you know, at first, you know, we were thinking guilty because she definitely did it. She definitely murdered her children. But then we went into talk about the bigger cause of mental illness. That's not your job as a juror. So it got really bizarre really quickly, but you know, we need to have an awareness of these kinds of crazy people. And I mean, no offense to people by using that term, but this is crazy.

36:55Trying to hijack a plane is stabbing your, your co-pilot. That's crazy. All right, we're coming up on a break here. All of our shows do go to podcasts the next day after the broadcasts turn on talk radio. You can hear them on your favorite podcast app. Be sure to subscribe, rate the show, share it, and visit the store at AmericaOutloud.News. Use the code out loud for 20% off. Sit tight. We'll be right back. The structure of tap water gets messed up. Yes, we have to purify water, but what are we doing to fix the water structure so the body can actually absorb it? That is why we created our lab certified structured water devices. These devices restore water molecules back to their natural structure, just like a mountain stream, making them highly absorbable. It's not how much you drink. It's how much you absorb that counts. Better hydration, better energy all day. Get one for your home or on the go at chemicalfreebody.com for it slash out loud for an exclusive discount. Get it out loud. In a world of rising prices, you can still grow abundance.

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39:00That was on Wednesday, fly to buy, pilot, stabbed his fellow pilot, attempted to crash the plane, kill a bunch of innocent people, and that was on a Boeing 737 MAX. One of the passengers stepped into action immediately and it had to be immediately. They had no time. Somehow he was able to break into the cockpit. Now, that'll be under investigation too. I'm positive of that. We don't know how he got in. There was a flight attendant so maybe there was some kind of an emergency code or whatever. There are emergency codes that flight attendants can enter in to get into the cockpit if need to be. So that's very possible that that's what happened. But Prime Minister Netanyahu met at the airport with the man identified as Yanev.

40:03He's the passenger who broke into the cockpit. And the times of Israel reported on the conversation between the pair. Including how Yanev recounted how he broke into the cockpit, subdued the alleged attacker before helping to stabilize the nose diving aircraft. This was all in a matter of seconds. As a plane is literally going down to be able to have that much composure. Man, what a hero. No wonder Prime Minister Netanyahu gave him a big hug. He said, when I went in, I saw the terrorists on the controls between the two seats. There were no pilots in the seats. I grabbed the terrorists. I love that he's using that term. Bravo, bravo, bravo. This is not some woke dude. He knows exactly what he's dealing with.

41:04He knew exactly the second that he broke into the cockpit, even before he broke into the cockpit. He knew exactly what he was dealing with. This is fantastic. And I want to do a little bit of a contrast here in a second, but listen to his language. Here again, here's what he said, when I went in, I saw the terrorists on the controls between the two seats. There were no pilots in the seats. I grabbed the terrorists, put them in a hold, and first of all pulled him outside. All right, then he said the attacker was trying to destroy the plane's controls when he entered the cockpit. He wasn't just pushing forward on the yoke. He was actively trying to destroy the controls so that nobody could possibly take control of the plane. He said, I jumped back in there, grabbed the controls, started pulling on the controls.

42:11The plane started leveling out for a little more, and then the pilot told me he was taking over from there. And of course, he was badly injured, and then the other pilots came up and took over. How incredible. How incredible. Man, is this just awesome. What a cool dude. I want to give him a high five and a hug. He literally staved the lives of potentially a couple of hundred people. I didn't see any count for how many people were on the plane. But anyway, here, New York Times defends altercation wording as Dubai flight backlash grows. Good old New York Times go figure. Here's what they wrote. Breaking news. A plane flying from Dubai to Israel was diverted after an altercation between the pilot and co-pilot.

43:13Israeli official said, that's not what Israeli officials said. That's what the New York Times said. Listen to the, I mean, it's so crazy. The passenger correctly called, he didn't call him a pilot or co-pilot. He called him a terrorist. Correctfully. You see, he identified it correctly. This is part of the problem with like, wokeism. They don't like that word, terrorist. And they're like, oh, co-pilot had an altercation. It wasn't an altercation. He stabbed the living crap out of him and was beating on the controls with his fist to try to destroy the controls so that nobody could possibly land that airplane. The New York Times drew fierce backlash for describing the suspected attack aboard Dubai to Tel Aviv flight as an altercation between pilots.

44:17Then hit back as activists and partisans. A community no detached to its ex-post challenged the wording, saying the co-pilot stabbed the captain and attempted to take over the aircraft before passengers subdued him. Unlike activists and partisans, we don't publish speculation or unverified information the Times wrote in response. Saying it reports facts as they're confirmed. This sounds like, uh, sounds like satire. We only publish facts as they come in. Unlike activists and partisans, how is that being an activist and a partisan? Everybody knows the co-pilot stabbed the living crap out of the captain. He tried to fly the airplane into the ground and was beating on the control board, all the

45:22controls. Lips of TikTok accused the newspaper of being in, quote, full-damage control mode and called its explanation pathetic. Mr. James Woods accused left-leaning media of describing a terrorist hijacking attempt as an incident in the cockpit. Conservative commentator Benny Johnson said, you don't hate the media enough. Israeli officials said the co-pilot stabbed the pilot and tried to crash the aircraft. That's pretty plain. That's pretty black and white. I mean, we don't know why. I mean, I could see the New York Times saying, yeah, we don't know why. That would be honest. None of us know why at this point.

46:22Nobody knows the motive. But to say, oh, there was an altercation in the cockpit. No, you had a terrorist who happened to be behind the controls. Can you imagine on September 11th, airplane flies into the World Trade Center after an altercation between a passenger and the pilots in the cockpit. A second plane hits the World Trade Center after an altercation between passengers and pilots. A third, you get the picture. Can you imagine? I mean, you got to call it what it is. So the co-pilot and Omani National is under arrest.

47:24Kind of hope he gets flogged. Now, other countries don't really play around like we do. We release terrorists back into the streets. Now, the other countries, they don't tolerate this kind of crap. So the injured pilot aboard the fly-to-by flight clicked the release to open the cockpit door while lying bloodied on the floor. Oh, that's how they got in. See? Facts matter. Facts matter. You clicked the release to open the cockpit door while lying bloodied on the floor during the midair emergency, a spokesperson for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Reuters, the action allowed others to gain access to the cockpit as the aircraft rapidly lost altitude. The spokesperson told the outlet that the wounded pilot was covered with blood and laying on the floor.

48:26The passengers and crew member entered the cockpit and subdued the co-pilot according to Israeli officials. A second set of pilots who were aboard the aircraft and scheduled to replace the original flight crew took control and ultimately landed the plane safely in Tabuk, Saudi Arabia. Man, what a blessing. What an absolute miracle. The fact that they had exactly two pilots who not only knew the aircraft, but were actually going to be the takeover pilots for that same aircraft. That's awesome. That's incredible. That's a God thing. You know, so things like this, stories like this give me hope. It just always gives me hope. Some people take an opposite approach and say, oh my goodness, there's so much evil in the world.

49:28I'm never going to fly again. I look at this and I'm like, man, there's so much good in the world. There are so many good people. I talk about stories in America because it's just we are America out loud. The majority of the stories have to do with what's happening on American soil or that affects Americans. But I'm telling you all around the world, you'll never convince me otherwise that they're good people everywhere, everywhere. And this is a case in point. You have heroes on the fly to buy flight. Absolute heroes, brave heroes. They put themselves in harm's way. It's an enemy. You know, it's really ironic. It's so, so ironic. My sermon on Sunday is from Jesus', it's the text in John chapter 15.

50:39Where he says, I'm the vine, you're the branches. But the part that I'm really focusing on is where Jesus says greater love has no one than this, that someone laid down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command you. Greater love has no one than this. Someone laid down his life for his friends. I mean, if this isn't a real living, breathing story of that scripture fulfilled, played out, lived out, I don't know what it is. I mean, this man knew how to love his fellow passengers. And I think, you know, some people might want to argue, oh, well, that's, that's your self-preservation. He just didn't want to die.

51:43I don't think. I mean, maybe that's a case that he didn't want to die. I get that. I empathize with him. I'm right there with him. I wouldn't want to die. That wouldn't be the reason that I stormed a cockpit. I'm not going to be like, oh, man, I'm not going down with this plane. You know, and so this is a really, really cool case of somebody willing to lay his life down. He stepped into harm's way, knowing. I mean, when that cockpit door opened, and this plane is going down, it is. It is nose-diving. And he sees the blood and the mess. And he hear the struggle. And he hear probably the screaming from agony. And this guy stepped right into the middle of that.

52:49The first thing he did, the very first thing he did, is grab this terrorist. I imagine probably I'm just going to guess, at least in my mind, this is how it played out and it's awesome. Grabbed him by the neck in the hair and violently ripped that terrorist out of the cockpit. You know, meanwhile, if we were in Massachusetts, you'd have all the women in pink lined up, and it is celebrate the copilot. You know, like, I have to think about how stupid this is. That people are celebrating a woman, like, I get, what did we like? Well, let's have a conversation about mental health. I'm all for that. But in the meantime, look at what we're dealing with.

53:51I mean, this, this guy needs to face, he must face consequences. Absolutely. 100%. He's a maniac. He's evil. And we're not going to celebrate this man. So anyway, the passenger, he's a hero. He's like, I'm going to, I went in there. I saw the terrorist. I saw the blood. I saw he was trying to destroy the controls. First thing I did, I grabbed him. I pulled him out, I yanked him out of the cockpit. And then I went in and he didn't stop there. Now, keep in mind, this airplane is literally diving 15,000 feet in 30 seconds and he runs back in there and it pulls up on the controls.

54:53And he did it in a way where he was able to stabilize the airplane. That's incredible. For somebody who presumably has no experience, that's incredible. Absolutely 100%. I'm an all of this story. But you see, that's what the hidden lightness is about. These stories don't get the attention that they deserve and that they need. Yeah, the New York Times. Oh, you know, plain lands safely after an altercation between the pilots. What? That's how you're reporting this. Crazy. So anyway, you know, these stories definitely deserve attention. They need to be in the spotlight. It shows to this brave passenger and any other passenger who helped out to the staff on the airplane, to the other pilots who landed the plane, to the pilot who was stabbed and

55:53still kept his composure and was able to open the door and give instructions. Man, oh, man, oh, man, everybody in this story is a hero except the terrorist, of course. Crazy hero. And we need more stories like this. That's why we share them on the hidden lightness. So be prepared. You never know what life is going to throw you. Literally. Life is going to throw all kinds of things your way. Be prepared. Be ready. And you don't have to be a hero, but just do something. All right. You can find more out about my show and get all the latest podcasts if you go to the many navigation bar at America out loud.News under our show's worst schedule. You'll be in the know. There is a hidden lightness to shine the side of all of us. But when so much darkness envelopes the world, remember that it doesn't take much light to expose that darkness and to ultimately inspire other people. Join me in being a light.