Bunnings Autism W/ Chloe Maddren

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2:03I think it's pretty lunchtime. It's not David. It's Charles. Oh, he's named down there. It's a really good quote. I'm very poorly today. I'm very stupid and had everybody and everything. That's great. Anyone listen to that. Who cares? What is he? Is he the guy that said Jesus is a real? He's evolution. He's the one that said that big things will fuck big things and the thing will become bigger. Is that what he said? Yeah, pretty much. Origin of the species is what you're like. I see what you're like. I see what you're like. I'm a dry reed. All of those boys are you ever read Stephen Hawking's one? Yeah, they remember everything. I couldn't finish it. Fucking impossible. This can't think he's so good. Stephen Hawking thinks he's so fucking smart. It's like a few people think he's so good. That's what peer reviewed means I believe this is the experience of tall poppy syndrome all the way through to

3:05Reading Stephen Hawking. Yeah, where it's like I don't think a single person in Australia would get around Stephen Hawking if they met him. Dude, I know I will I'll tell you right. I will tell you right now there's a pull quote on the back of the theory of everything. Yeah. And it says one of the most easily consumable books on the subject matter. And I'm like, my fucking ass it is. That is the hardest read I've ever done. That's upsetting for the rest of the subject matter though because it probably is. He's not he's not terrible. Well, I can see you fucking you're working on string theory. You never thought about some robotic legs. Yeah. Well, and that's really what it comes down to right? How smart are you? Oh, wait, that's why you don't like him. Yeah, well, let's say at the end of the day, if you're talking all this shit but practice what you preach, you know what I mean? Build yourself some robotic legs and then we'll talk. So much of Stephen Hawking's existence is theoretical. Yeah, it's like theoretically he goes to the bathroom by himself. I just... I reckon Stephen Hawking born in this country is just on the NDIS. Like we never let him become who he was supposed to become. Oh, of course not.

4:05Right? Yeah. Isn't that crazy? It's like how they've only just recently discovered that nonverbal autistic kids can speak with not with words but like... Oh, but with like a... This should pack a pad or... The buttons that the dogs can't. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. People are just sitting there with their 40-year-old children being like, I have no idea what he wants and he's like pointing... He's throwing the button at the wall. He's like, fucking... The button that says new parents on it, he's fucking pegging about him. They only discovered this because of that talking dog bunny with the buttons on the floor. I hate, I hate that fucking dog. Why? Because that dog has reached a level of sentience that I think has been forced upon it. Oh, God. And then you become self-aware against its own will. Well, it started doing things where it started to go, why me? And they're having to be like, oh, bunny, why are you your dog? And he keeps going, why? Why me? Oh, God. Why? And I'm like, you did this. You did this to this fucking dog.

5:06I have two things on that. I think honestly, there's something to be said for maybe it's just a means to communicate and the fact that his communication skills are growing. He's able to say the things. It's much like a child when they are able to... They have a wide of vocabulary. They start to say these kinds of things. True. My second question would also be, dogs do like to have a job and his job is currently content creation. I think it's just like... Oh, my God, you're right. You're right. They're like, influence it. Exactly. Exactly. He hates this fucking life. He's not good. He's the fucking Aussie Brosquad of dogs, where it's like, he's held their against his will. It's not ethical. I agree with that. He is Aussie Osborne's kids. It's just like nothing to do, but just be here and be stupid. Yeah, pretty much. Which, you know, some of us dream for that, but it's not forever. I take it. Do we know for sure that he actually knows what he's doing? Is there evidence that when he goes water that he actually meant water? Oh, yeah.

6:06Really? That's how the buttons work. Yeah, because you can buy the dog buttons, and so you train them to be like, this button's outside. Oh, I see what you're doing. It's all the same. Right, okay. You know, we've got some at home. We tried to do it to my cat. Oh, yeah. I've never seen him look so stupid. Yeah, right. So confused. But Jacob got fluent with them very quickly. Like, he knew which one meant what by the colors. And I had to take them off him. I've never seen stuff using words. And also, now we worry that if anything would ever happen to me, he's going to get really weird with the buttons, because they're all my voice talking. Oh, yeah. I love you. I love you. Oh, dude. I love you. I love you. I love you. Oh, my God. Cornflakes. Jesus Christ. Change my kitty litter. Yeah, look, cats too dumb. But that's all right. I mean, it's not that cats are too dumb, either way. I think my cat hits his own head intentionally. Yeah, but that's part of Louise Characters. You know, like, you know, I walk around with her. I think that's the way I'm going to do it.

7:06I think I'm going to do it. Yeah, but that's part of Louise Characters. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, you know, it walks into walls and shit. They say it's orange, which, you know, you are. Yeah, well, you know, you'll be turning to be. You'll be turning to be. You'll be turning to be dumb. What are you naturally? Silver. What? I don't know why I said that. I'm sorry. Silver. I don't know why I said that. That is stupid. The crazy. It's such a clear line. Crazy question, debanico. You've been living the facade too long. I'm sure you like brown. Oh, okay. Did I ever know you without the red hair? No. No. So you just stuck with it. Yeah, it's the longest I've ever, because I did change my hair color constantly since I was like 10 or 11 and the longest one I've ever stuck with. Would you ever, would you ever die? Because I've thought about it a lot. Yeah. Would you ever die all here? Yeah, I've done it before. Really? Yeah, I do it again. Doesn't surprise me. Yeah, I died at, I jet black and I look washed out. But it was during the emo.

8:06I feel like we're going to make you look more Asian. It does make you look more Asian. Yeah. But you can't have dark hair with light roots because then when it grows out it looks like you're balding. Yeah, looks weird. Looks very straight. It's real sad. And I used to have Michelle's color like fluorescent red. Wow. Yeah, I had Michelle's color hair just after I came out of high school. So I died at black for school is because I was being cool. We were going crazy. Of course. We went to the sunshine coast. No one wanted to find me. Time to pick up. I'm done black. I just love it. We did then. And then we died my hair fluorescent red. And it was a good look actually. I quite liked it. I've thought about like going like green. Oh. Yeah. I think I'm not, I don't, I don't have control of your life. No, just talk to me. Talk to me. What the fuck were you going to say? Purple. I could, I reckon purple actually is a color of mine. I think green you will find yourself in some trouble. You people will think I'm not binary. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know what I mean. Is that the trouble? What's the trouble? What is the trouble?

9:06Yeah. I think that. Like people will think I'm in a gang. I won't be able to get on some carriages in the trine. Does that really have green hair? Yeah. People definitely think it's a little bit more extreme. And I feel like such a blokey guy of that. Do you think I'm blokey? That's very sweet. I'll take it. I think you're loud. Excuse me, come. You are. I live with actual very peaceful, monk style life. I think when you can't come over, I'm going to tell you that. Yeah, okay. That makes sense. Well, look, I think green gives a different reaction from people was purple would make, I think it would be quite endearing. Really? And it would definitely, it's definitely in your color, purple. I do need something to make me more endearing because I'm coming up against that a lot in my life. Really? Yeah. But I will say if you die, if you die your hair, I would argue that that would confuse it even more. Because when you're like, does it make me look non-binary? It's like you live in the NOS. And you die your hair purple or green. Immediately people are going to be like, which side of the king hit his hair?

10:06Yeah, yeah. It's like, dude, are you doing the punching? Are you getting the punching? Yes. You have an ironic non-binary mullet situation. Yes. See, dude, I'm a prisoner of my own fucking face. Yeah. I can't help it. Oh, we all do. Yeah, exactly. I'm finding out lately that I seem like a real bitch a lot of the time, which I think is my... Through actions or your head? No, through... I'm finding this out from people giving me feedback. Okay. One thing that I didn't realize that I was doing was apparently very regularly. I would respond to someone when they would make an offer to me like, do you want one of these things or whatever? And I would say, oh god, no. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't do that. I didn't know this. And it came up because I was buying so many big treats from one of those stalls outside of Bunnings, right? Amazing. And I go, what's your favorite? She says what it is. And I said apparently, ha ha. Oh god, no. To her offer. Well, yeah, because what I've...

11:08When I had it explained to me, I realized in my head what I'm doing is, ha! Like, what? Ha ha! Oh god! Like, oh my god, that sounds amazing. No. No, no. No, no. Oh god. So there is no tone or intonation between this thing. So you're subtext retarded. Oh, you can't. Oh, yes, I keep forgetting. Sorry, that was the doctor first trying to figure out a way for autistic where it's like, I think I'm going to call it a subtext retardation. It's a bleminal spastic. What do we have? Yeah, it's one of these. I just always thought I was pretty good at the actual social stuff, hence the like, you know, late diagnosis. And then there are a few things that Jacob's pointed out and I go, that's really bad. So when you're head, you're going, you're going, ha ha ha ha! Like, you're doing the Victorian. Like, oh please darling, I couldn't. Moment of lip, lips, lifetime of the hips. Ta ta! So funny to do that in the front of my neck. Just be like, would you like to donate extra to the children's cancer? Ha ha! Oh god no. I hope they all die.

12:09It's so bad. Jacob's so upset that he pointed it out too, because now I haven't said it since. And I'm so aware of it and I'm comparing other things to it when I say things and then people get like mad at me and like, wait, did I say that? And Jacob goes, I regret saying it. And now you're in an overthinking spiral. Yeah, yeah. Just go back to saying it, dude. I think honestly go back to saying it until someone else brings it up. I don't know if I can. It wasn't a conscious decision to stop. It's just that I'm aware of it. So I don't know. Look, we'll see. Well, again, you're the dog with the buttons, man. Like, this is what I'm saying. You become too self-aware. You have to go back to just the regular shit. Yeah, there is a level. You're so right. And I didn't really think about that when I'm making that. Too much self-awareness is bad. It really is quite upsetting. Because I had a similar blender at Bunnings a couple of weekends ago. Oh, do tell. Yeah, well, I went in there. I doubt it's similar, brother. You're like outwardly hostile. I got like a cute autistic trait. It's little thing that I do sometimes. So my autistic trait is being accidentally outwardly hostile to me.

13:10And this is a great example of that. Or like just falling into the ladders. I fall into the ladders and there. Oh, no, no, no, because they dominate my style. Oh, my God. I can be accidentally and intentionally hostile when I don't need to be. And I don't mean to be. But I was getting a Bunnings sausage. Yeah, I've been to Bunnings two weekends in a fucking row. And I'm sorry. I fucking, I'm so pissed off about. Oh, I thought that was a treat. No, no, no, no, no, we used to be. But the first week when this happened was actually the better week. We went in and they were having a sausage sale for it was like a sausage sale. So did you catch the private school? Maybe small. Private school? No, I was having the sausage auction. Private, that's the sausage auction. So I was at this peasant sausage auction. Yes. And they were raising money for dreaming of the minor 10 bull lingerie pop up.

14:10I go to bunnies for like fucking dates. Jesus Christ. Must be nice, come. My father used to take us to the buy ten. But I'm sure. Oh, there you go. It was there. They were raising money. Chloe, don't nearly enjoy it as much. No, no, no, no, I'm enjoying it. That's good. Oh, we should say we have Chloe matching on the part. Chloe matching on the part ladies and gentlemen. And I'm wearing your match, which I tailored myself very nice. And they'll tell you what I want to come back to this. We'll come back. Yes. They were raising money. The sausage says it was raising money for a cause I hadn't heard of called. It was called running for premature babies. No. Which I think overall is quite just a funny collection of words. They shouldn't run. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't know. So it doesn't run. No. Oh, sorry. Oh, I think it does a ride. Why would anyone give money to that? It doesn't fucking rhyme.

15:10You know, I do really like a iteration rhyming. I've been writing songs lately. So I'm with Alex on that. But you need that bouncy bounce. It's something we go like, oh, it's okay. What is a good rhyme for? What's the, what babies with one? It's running for premature babies. Running for premature babies. Yeah. Sausage for Bob's or something like just. Yeah. So anyway, so I'm in line right. And I'm talking to Michelle about this. I'm like, what kind of fucking stupid charity is this? What do you mean you're running for premature babies? You guys, well, it's probably, they're probably raising money by running. You're like, yeah, but that's sick of fantic. Like just, like just cut them a check. What do you mean you're running for this isn't about the babies? This is about them. And so I'm getting all worked up for no particular reason. I guess just neurodivergent things. You're an diversion thing. Shut up like you're fine. Shut the fuck up. Compared to you two, I think. Thank you. I should be in a textbook as the fine one. I'm pretty sure that we shared genetics. So that doesn't count as two people as fun. So we get it. And Michelle's like, don't mention any of this when you buy your sausages. I'm like, I'm not. I'm just like, it wouldn't have been funny if it was called running from premature babies.

16:10Like all these tiny scary little babies coming after you. Like little sand crabs. They ugly. Anyway, so do you just say they ugly? Well, they ugly. We have to chain the hospital bins down. They just, they come back alive. But at the stroke of midnight, it's fucked up. See, if you really need to pay nurses more. If you feed premature babies after 11 p.m. It's a whole thing. Oh my god. So it's running from premature babies, but trying to raise money for a huge cannon. The babies are winning the war. Join the effort by a sausage. I don't know if they watched this. Well, you'll be happy to know that after researching it, it's actually a very worthwhile cause. But I'm sort of just, I'm up. I'm on edge because I'm at budding. And I'm having a good time.

17:10And I'm like, this is ridiculous. And then we get the ticket. They go and give us the sausage, like immediately. And then we get the ticket. And then we get the ticket. And then we get the ticket. They go and give us the sausage, like immediately. They give us the sausage immediately. Some would argue early. Too quickly. And I thought this was a perfect opportunity to convey how unbranded the sausage sister was. Where they give me the sausage. Man, that was quick. That was early. Someone said premature. Nice. And I just had this woman just staring at me. And I'm like, waiting for the laugh. And they're like, okay, fine. I just took the sausages indignantly. I was like, alright, no, unless I'm good fucking time. She's just gonna fucking... Like making a doing fucking tomato. Keeping the fucking onions on fuck this. I'm just like, what are you the fuck outta here? We're a miserable bunch of women. Emptying the tomato sauce on your ass. Oh my god. Oh my god. I'm walking out. And Michelle's like, did you even make me consider that the people that are making the sausages are the ones directly affected by premature deaths?

18:13And I just went, that didn't cross my mind. Yeah, they're so sorry. I'm so sorry. And then she's like, yeah, maybe just, maybe not. I'm like, I'm just sort of an opportunity for a joke. You're so right. I'm so sorry. And I was like, I need to go back and apologize. And she was like, do not do that. Yeah. Just, we're just gonna keep going. And I'm like, same tall. But god damn it. I would want to go back. My thought was I reckon it's language barrier. I don't think he actually heard anybody. I think it's potential. I think he got me English. No, no, on them. Because it's, I've been to Bunnings and it's always the same ladies out the front. Oh, no, it's not. It changes. I've been one of those ladies before. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure, look, this is the thing. I'm sure they rotate, but I've seen the same ladies a bunch of times out the front. And there's one particular that just, they don't speak in the English. They just do sausages. That's their thing. I agree, but then this woman spoke very good English. Could be like, was it two sausages? Oh, she came back with an Australian accent. Like a Korean webster like fuck.

19:13Yeah, yeah. Oh, sorry. It appears you've pertained to sausages that Mr. Farge rocked on. Honestly, my instinct is that your first thought was correct and that they hate the premature babies. So when you made a joke that this was like a premature baby, they were like, that's our enemy. Yeah, you've never seen a fuck, they fucked. Yeah, they're fucked. How dare you make a line of it? You see in train spotting, that's our life. I've lost friends, can't. I've lost friends, can't. One's on my ceiling right now. Man, it's hard. Look, it's hard to order a sausage. Funnings. Without saying some dumb shit. Oh, yeah, thank you. The last time I was there, I gave them, I think, whatever the sausage amount was, plus we just had a $10. So we were like, you know what? Because they were like, do you want to give it to whatever charity it was? That was a Qdawa. The sausage money, that's yours. And also just keep the rest of the $10. And she went, wow, thank you, everybody, we got a $10. No, everybody say thank you.

20:13And no one looked up. No one said anything. It was just a moment of silence. And I went, that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. I'm like, please don't do that. It doesn't work outside of a sushi train. It sounds so casting. Yeah, it's all thank you for your $10. Everybody, please, let's bow to this company. What is this fucking Christ? You guys are messing up in the wrong places though. That place is that I, like Jacob and I will do dates where I guess, I guess, I guess, sure, maybe it comes back to autism, maybe whatever. But what do you want to eat for breakfast? What lovely cafe in the inner west that we have access to all of these things? And I go, I want a sausage and bread. And so we have, yeah, date. Take my bitch to Bunnings Cafe, get her a mixed triple. They're good. They're not good. They are. They are. You don't know what that is. You never had the mixed triple sandwich from the Bunnings Cafe? Oh, no, I'm not. I'm not. Oh, you are not. You are not. I'm not. You are not. I'm not. I'm sorry. You know what?

21:13I've been there for the lunch. That's the issue. I'm not quite there in the morning. And I'm the push boy. I'm like, sorry, I... I see a fucking yoga. I got to start at Bunnings. I'm like, I'm not gay. I'm looking at furniture. Outdoor patio. Dude, Bunnings stresses me out. I do feel sort of my masculinity is questioned there. I don't like it. Oh, yeah. It's just something about walking around with dudes where everyone's in the high-vast and does feel like a little bit of a psychological dick-measureing contest of who can carry the longest piece of wood. You know what I mean? And when I'm walking through with like a shelving unit sort of like s-hooks or something like that, we need those. Like I need those s-hooks or whatever. I do feel less masculine because there's dudes carrying full boards of wood. And maybe I'm just projecting. But I go, fuck, that's what I'm supposed to be doing. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. Well, look, I mean, you can fix that. If you, how much storage do you have around out the back? I mean, it's basically what you see here. Yeah, okay. You can feel the smoke. You could get wood, yeah, I guess. Every time you need to get something, just also get a super long piece of wood.

22:13Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Get a long piece of wood. Oh, and if I, just impulse buy, try getting the longest piece of wood like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't impulse buy. Can I just have five minutes of timber? Yeah. Or you can even get the long metal rods if you're sick of getting wood. They're probably cost more. Sick of getting wood. Where am I, same as mum? No, no. All right, come, hey, hey, hey. My mum's never sick of getting wood. She's a fucking top quality slot in her day. Oh, that's beautiful. I learned how to pronounce my last name, the Welsh pronunciation. Okay. Mathron. Mathron, are you two days? Yeah, two days? Yeah, nice. So, can we, can you range? She's sleeping. Fuck you. No. No, this is stupid. Can't be on best. Gross and balls get a 23 in me and find out you're not special. Mayhem Gladman had a, please. No, no, no. I'm not a real shite. It's the only thing I've got. Please welcome the onto the podcast famous Welsh guest, Chloe Mathron. Oh, hello. Oh, hello. Jesus Christ. My Welsh accent needs a word. Oh, hello.

23:13Oh, my God, it's a pedophiles ghost. Oh, geez. Oh, hello. Pretty exciting, though. I'm, I'm trying to learn, I used to know a decent amount of Oslin as a kid because my, one of my best friends mom was, and mom and brother were deaf. And I am learning just a little bit of Welsh because like, I go, oh my God, something, something in my actual heritage. You know, sure, of course. And I'm learning Italian because we're going to move to Italy. Mama Mia. So, very different languages. Yeah. One's on the hands and face. So, it's easy. You do that, Oslin? Yeah. That's on the hands of the face. Okay. So, it's Italian. Sure. That's pretty simple. That's Italian as the Oslin for the ears. Yeah. You guys make great points. That's what you tell me in it. You do not eat. I can't put you down after breakfast. A deaf person gets what's going on. How you finding Italian? Well, I learnt Spanish for a long time and it was decent for some time.

24:18So it's quite easy to go from there. But I feel like I'm losing my Spanish. Oh, yeah? I'm worried. I'm worried. Yeah. Wait, was this like a school subject Spanish? Or did you go out of your way? No, I did it in school. But it was like, I don't want to be a Sancho Manca better do that. It's like, I be international back of the world. It's just like pretty extreme and for the languages. It wasn't like crazy basic. It was like, I was alright. I was alright. I was alright. Yes, okay. And then I went like continued just trying to keep up with it outside of school. I am very, I find it such a wonderful character trait of people when they decide to go and learn a second language because if I didn't innately know one, I would never. Yeah, I just, I just know I would, I just be like, because English is already the best. English is already the best one. English is the best language. English is my father best one. Yep. There is a lot of it, you know. There is, and you know what, we've taken the best bits from fucking all of them, stuck together, everyone can understand it. It's easy to learn. It's difficult to master. But overall, you can get by cruzy. It's most romantic.

25:19It's the funniest. It's the most romantic. It's the most romantic. I think it's the most romantic. I know it's not a romantic language, but fuck you when you're fucking French. I'm with this, fuck the French. This is how I feel about it when French. I never felt French was the most romantic. You know that thing where they're like, do you know in France, you don't say I miss you, you say, I need you where I am. You do both in English. Yeah. Like you just do whatever you want. English is all a car. And we take a little bit of this. And we take a little bit of this. Yeah. English is, yes. Oh, exactly. I'm allergic to my point. I do as someone who loves to talk and over explain, love all of the options of English. But I worry that maybe that's just not my good enough knowledge of other languages, but also every time I learn any other language, they go, and that's just what that means. That means this, this, this, this, this, but it's that one phrase and I go, what sounds like we do have more. That's what I'm saying. We also, I think, infer a lot better than the other languages. Yeah. I feel like the other ones where it's like, it's so close,

26:19it's like you either ordered a coffee or you went like, no, I watch out, there's a beer. And the person, it takes you literally, but like, they said there's a beer. We're in the cafe. So like, figure it out, you know what I mean? I think English, there's a lot of, I think I get what you're saying. Like, I'll come back, you tell me if that's what you want it. Yeah. And also, we're not confined by like, just the fact there's like, this is, you can either speak as a man or a woman. Yes. But no, you just speak. That is infuriating. Not just you are a man or a woman, but all the things are men and women. It's very confusing. Hate to be non-binary in Spanish or Italian. Well, you've got to pick. Or French. Benari, or Benari, I. She's a solid dick. Where's your aunt? At a be hard. Yeah, dude, what do you mean? How do they handle bisexuality in other languages? Oh, no. They like it. Yeah. I mean, where the ones that are the weirdest about bisexual? Is that, yeah? Yeah. Especially in like Europe, what are you talking about? There's, I've got that. Although, I will find, say, I say, I say, I will say.

27:23There's the Welsh. I'll find it funny. I can't find it. I think I have a bit of a... Yeah, there's Quich. I find it funny that in Italy, it's still illegal to be gay married when they all want to fuck their moms. Is it illegal to play? Is it illegal to play? Yeah, hold on. Now join us, Drus. Hold on. No, no, no, no. We'll say no more. Put your feet down. No, no, no, no. I mean, I'm a matter of speech. Literal thinking. Why do the Italians want to fuck their moms? Chloe, imagine. Oh, that's just from my, I have Italian family. And my mom's really hot, sir. No. Well, no, do you mean the Italians want to fuck your moms specifically? Hold on. And you think that could be solved if they were allowed to get gay married? If you came, if you're looking for general sweeping statements about cultures, you came to the right place. This is the only thing. I know where I am. I know. Italians, let's what right let's what? Why do they want to fuck their moms? I think it's actually largely because of a very patriarchal society with a lot of much more old school thoughts about masculinity

28:26that maybe leads a mother to spend a significant more amount of time with her children. And prioritize the male of those children as some of you are familiar with. So you think that's it? I mean, Sam's pretty prioritized in his family, I feel like. I am, but we have no daughters. Yeah, that's just because it's funny. Yeah, I know I'm funny and I'm charming. Wait, it's like a sort of... Hold on, so I don't get any... My character doesn't... Get any, like, it doesn't even form. Why are my parents would like me? It's just because I was born a boy. Yeah, it's my... It's your boy. You fucking hate me. No, I hate you. I'm just going to what you told me before we started recording. And I don't know if that's public. Well, just culturally. Culturally, I had to fight for my position as the favorite. Yes, yes. That's what it is. I had to fight for it. And even then, I'm not the favorite. And this isn't also just on like... It was kind of given to me, but I would also say there's an ease that I carry the favorite with. I think I don't know what I'm talking about. Because it was given to me. You know what I mean? Like, I've never not been the favorite, so I don't get weird about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Medium is the head that weighs the crown. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

29:26I guess it's kind of... I'm checking my lipstick. But yeah, you guys know that's a thing. And then, while I have my... Oh, I gotta tell you something. It's fall in Jeep Country. And during the driving to fall sales event, get a great deal on four by fours that refuse to be contained, like Jeep Wrangler, confidence built into every drive with the most awarded SUV ever, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and freedom that can't be denied, with the open air freedom in Jeep Gladiator. After 85 years, it's no surprise that Jeep became America's SUV brand. Get a great deal during the Jeep driving to fall sales event. Jeep is one more awards over its lifetime than any other SUV brand, cheap in the Jeep Grill or Registered Trademarks of FCAUS LLC. If you like YouTube, you'll love YouTube Premium. Hi, I'm Sean Evans from Hot Ones, and I want to tell you about YouTube Premium. It has offline downloads, so you can watch without Wi-Fi. Background play. So you can lock your phone, and it still plays, baby. Oh, and it is completely ad-free. Yes, I said it ad-free. Try YouTube Premium for two months free at youtube.com slash premium.

30:30Trial eligibility varies, terms apply, cancel anytime. I'm just excited. Well, I have my own family that is Italian, and they are enough proof. I also have dated Italian men, and there is just, it's just a very close relationship. It happens in other cultures as well. It's a funny stereotype. It's accurate. It is a funny stereotype. You think it's like an edible thing, like trying to take over the dad's position? Not even trying to, necessarily, from the son's perspective, more so, even maybe the mother putting too much on the son because the father is. I've seen that. The way fucking is gummas and shit. I understand sopranos, okay. I'm making everything up. Sure, I don't understand. It's an overt maternalistic attitude because it's such a patriarchal system. You see that through Europe, Italian dudes want to fuck their mom's Croatian dudes want to fuck their dads. It's a cross-themed boy. It's a cross-themed boy. You're on notice, Croatian.

31:32You fucking, you checkered Serbs. Yeah, man. You're just a little better at us than soccer. You go to coastline. Yeah, what is your life? No, by the way, that should probably be Bosnia and Herzegovina's coastline. This is, I like the Baltics. Yeah, it's just trying to learn. The Balkans, brother. The Balkans. I just tried to learn about that like seven months ago. I didn't. Bulltics, something you can't really go camping naked. Bulltics. Yeah, let's go get through it. Let's go. That's fun. My dad got a ticket as I once. Oh, Jesus Christ. The same balls on it. I wouldn't put, honestly, I think they would enjoy each other thoroughly if they needed to. No, I guess that's kind of something. What you said you were learning about the Balkans? No, I tried to one evening because I was in a comment section reading, you know, as you do, the fun thing to do. And someone said something about somewhere. Yeah. And I went, that sounds mighty racist. I wonder where that comes from. So I was trying to learn more about the beef between these areas and then I was learning about the Balkan one.

32:33They turns into night snow over the roof. Melts and flowers. Yeah, but you know, I'm really sorry I haven't done much work lately because this is all I've been doing this sort of shit. Dude, we did a full breakdown. It's on the Patreon cheeky plug. A full breakdown of the history of the Balkans from the Ottoman Empire all the way through to modern history. I need to get on to that. And Alex and I got no closer to understanding why everyone was like that. It's like impossible to find out. So it's so, this is the thing. It goes, if you want to go by what everyone says happened, then you've only sort of heard half the story. Right? This is the issue is because everyone, everything that's documented, this is not me shilling for Serbia. I swear to God, it's not me shilling for Serbia. Everything that people talk about, there's always some kind that's like, oh yeah, well what about? And then they'll say a year. And then you read up about that and you're like, oh okay, so what? And it's just a rabbit hole that keeps birthing other rabbit holes. It's really fucking exhausting. It's why your show, sorry. History repeating itself.

33:34Don't have it. Thank you. It's true repeating itself with Sam's murder. It clearly has seen the show. I think it's right twice. I think that's why that show is like all anyone needs to know when they want to have like a little bit of a cry about dates of affair. Because it's all sad and exhausting. But everyone's been fighting forever and it's so annoying and boring and everyone should just shut up about fighting and then stop fighting. Nice. Let's get you with the UN, dude. Thank you. I've been saying this since I was 10. Vote me in. Yeah, and you know what's not? I kind of agree more. It's like you go and you're like, hey, I got an idea. How about you guys all just fucking figure your shit out and we all just get on with this. I fully believe in that honestly. I do believe in the hey, how about we all just chill for like six months and think about our actions? Because like I think we're angry and I think we're just doing it. You know, I think where you're in argument and it just keeps escalating. Well, I can't pull out now because then it will admit that I've I have to forfeit everything up until now. Yeah. So you keep escalating and then you end up in like, oh, maybe I didn't need to say that.

34:35Maybe I didn't need to say that. I think if we gave everyone like a six month like do over, you know what I mean? Yeah. Just like hey, here's a little do over everything from the last little bit. Everything is takes these backsees. Yes. You know, I think that's great because it is a really good tactic. It is good. Jacob's so good at that because I am so much more stubborn. Yeah. But if someone's got to someone's got to just go, hmm, necessarily or what was that or I forgot or just that moment of, I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think we've you and I have gotten pretty good at being like, I didn't mean that as it comes out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, 100%. That's the problem. The problem better at that. Just sort of letting go. And I am not I'm not sure about you Alex and Chloe. You Alex and Chloe, you can attest to this. When you are in a relationship with a woman with a woman with multiple women at the same time. When you're in a relationship with a woman, they love it when you say, I don't care. Oh, yeah. It's their favorite thing. I just go, I don't care. Honey, I don't care. Why are you getting mad at me? I don't care.

35:35No, no, no, no. You've got a time it so that what you're saying is that you don't care about whatever you were going to say. That's the thing. Yeah. I know. I'm not worried. That's still the room for trouble. I could potentially work with that. I could say. You know fucking invested in this discussion. You piece of shit. God, I'm so good at fighting. It's the worst thing. It's the worst thing. I'm like, I love, I'm a typical contrarian. I'm classic of even the diagnoses or the HD. They fight each other. They're two things. I get so passionate. And people think it's angry all the time when I'm just interested in the subject. And so everyone perceives it like like close everyone's like you know siblings. Jacob. They'll just be like, why are you trying to fight? Why are you trying to button? I'm like, I just, I thought we were having so much fun. Oh, you're doing like the dog trying to play sort of thing where it starts fighting. I'm like a boy. I'm like, one of the boys on the internet that's like, well, the devil's advocate. It's so embarrassing. It's fun to be devil's advocate.

36:36This is the thing. I think all of his men women just makes you a guy. Yeah. I think that's it. I think autism and women makes you a guy and autism and men makes you something else. Super, super. Yeah. I think it makes you one of the chosen ones. Yeah. It's powerful. It's very scary. Yeah. I'm sorry. When you can see it on the eyebrows. Yeah. Because like there is a significant portion of women that have autism that you and I both know a couple. You live with one that can just like tell me like 50 minutes of Elden Ring facts. Yeah. And I have to look at them and be like, fuck, this is this is freaky Friday, but I'm the girl on the day. Yeah, they're not stopping talking thingy is fun. It's just been like, holy fuck, who gives a fuck this much about Elden Ring? Yeah, it's good. Yeah, it's great. It's so good. So good.

37:36I love man I've learned so much about how to mod Skyrim in the last three months. It's fucking awesome. It's great. It's good. Yeah. Okay, see one of my things is music and I think it's really good for Jacob to not understand anything about music. Yeah. Because when I get going, especially when I'm in the process of making music and I get going about like music theory stuff, he glazes over and I obviously don't want to talk to somebody if they're not listening. And so I'm just like, oh, well, and he goes, I just don't get it. And I go, oh, okay, I'll talk to someone else about it. It's a really good tactic. Nice. So your problem is it's having too much in common with your loving partner. Yes, well, the thing is that it's sort of like Misha's the other thing where she knows enough, but now, because it started where she knew more than me and now I have just surpassed her by fucking light years. Oh, that's fine. And I guess it gets under my goat. And I say that with such confidence because I'll be playing something. She's going to, oh, that's the same key as drops of Jupiter.

38:37I'm like, no, it's not. She's like, get it. I'm like, no, you can play this in the kids. Like, pretty sure that's the kids. It's not. It's fucking not. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm like, fuck alone. This isn't the key of F-sharp. Awesome. For the one finger left to be hanging on the cliff, which is what key is drops of Jupiter in? No, not even what key is it in. What key am I playing? Not drops of Jupiter in right now. That's so funny. Fucking hell. No, it does. It is very, very helpful. I am incredibly aware that I'm often wrong and I'm very, very happy to be proven wrong because then I'll know what is right. is right and then I get to be right next time. And I think it's probably why I've like actively, for the most part, bar a few that you probably know some of,

39:37chosen to date people I deem as smarter than me because I need to have, like I don't think that I would seem like I was showing any respect to someone because I did that, actually did date someone dumb and I was not respectful enough when I felt really bad. But he cheated on me heaps, so it's fine. When I found out that I like had literally no respect for him and I was only dating him because I felt like I wanted to win something. I didn't feel too bad about it. But yeah, I think I felt like that before. Yeah, I saw a lot. Scary, were they hot? It depends. Because once you see how dumb they are, they're not hot anymore. Well, it's just like I, look, I am big on, I love everybody. Famously, right? I love everybody and I think a lot of the time really someone's personality is what shines through for me. You're, you're demisexual. I'm, I'm, I'm not big on Lardner honestly.

40:40I feel like that's disrespectful to Tom. Tom's a good, good man. I'm gonna cut your toes off. Oh my fucking god. Just, yeah, I don't know. I don't really want to talk about that. But I don't really want to get into it. Being sexually attracted to a colleague called Tammy. I don't know how to do that. Did you bring a tarot card, by the way? Yeah, I did. Do you want to do them? Well, okay. So how long have we been going for? How about 40? Neely dead on. Nice. A couple, because I feel like we should end on the tarot. Yeah, I would like to end on the tarot card. A couple things first. The Hamish and Andy shirt. Yes, I'm wearing a Hamish and Andy shirt. So it's a beautiful, wonderful shirt. It certainly is. Did we give you that one? Did you pay for it? You gave it to Jacob actually. Oh, we gave it to Jacob. And I don't know if you can tell, but have you taken this? Yes.

41:40No, I'm telling you. Because I'll tell you what, you wear it of the merch, of the people that bought merch. I think you wear the Hamish and Andy shirt the most. I thought so. Yeah, I think you do. And yet. Not a single shout out. OK, definitely not true. Where have you seen me wearing it in person? In person, I've seen you on the stories with the Instagram, with the Instagram. I'm pretty sure you've worn it on the pod as well on your pod. If I've worn it on my pod, I've definitely shouted it out. And I can be honest, I actually, I actually have an inkling that you actually mentioned it when I came on your podcast. Almost certainly. I'd actually think. Almost certainly. Yeah. And second to that, I thought that it was the shout out in itself. That's the point of very much, no? No, it has nothing to do with us. I was just going to bring that up in that I think. I'm really bad job at merch because no, it's a perfect job. It just requires on people like you to be like this. Where did I get that come from? And I go, I don't actually remember.

42:40It's just Hamish and it may be Google Hamish and Andy. Well, you'll be happy to know that going forward, we'll be using AI as for one last thing before it kills us all. And that is to build an e-commerce site that allows us to directly upload designs to it and people buy straight from it. Because let me tell you, we have an idea that's been cooking. Do we? What's the idea? Baby, I'm going to say it and you're going to go, oh, yeah, that's right. The greatest idea we've ever had. Chloe, picture this. Same shirt, but it's pink. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, I like this. And it's the donut king logo. And there's a sausage in a hot dog. And sorry, there's a hot dog in a donut. And that's it says donut king. It's not the same shirt at all. Just sorry. No, no, it's not. No, it's it's the same shirt, but it's too famous Australian characters. Okay, sorry. So it's a. Oh, donut king hot dog donut underneath. When you all know it here, we make the hot dogs and donuts. Fuck. It's a good shirt. Yeah, it's a good shirt. I love it. Oh, and can I ask you a pinning on another shirt?

43:43I do. Now, no one likes this bit me. Have you pictures to me? Yeah, you don't like it. Oh, go. No one likes this bit me. But it's just a shirt that just says my other shirt is pants. I hate you. Yeah. I love that. What the fuck is wrong with me and my brain? This is why I think he's my cousin. This isn't why I think it's my cousin. But this is things say you're the only person. You the only person that likes it. I'll pitch it to my dad and my brother. Well, hey, hey, hey, hey, how about you to make a fucking podcast and go to a store around that? And then see how much you like the fucking shirt. Would you would you plug that shirt if we had that shirt for much? You'd plug that shirt? I guess I'd plug that shirt. I'd plug the donut shirt. I'll plug this shirt. I didn't realize where I am most of the time. So I apologize if anyone's ever felt slided. But by anything I've ever done, I didn't mean it probably unless I did in which case. Fuck you. Okay. Wow. What if what a measured apology? That's fantastic. Thank you. That was a shout out. I'm so sorry.

44:43I love this shirt. And I do tell people in person constantly when I'm wearing it. I do it. This is the thing. And it's why neither mean or bad in the type A people. And I wish we were. Yeah. Because God damn, we've had this in probably where people have been like, what's the shirt? And we'll be like, oh, we have. And we forget to tell them that you can still buy it. Like, like, it's still, we should get links up a bit. Like, we have no hustle in us. I have, I have links. I have the link in my link tree. If you say so, why? But I'm like, just to say, I forget, with someone goes, oh, I'm not sure. I go, yeah, I treat it like it's a project that we just did. You know what I mean? I mean, that you can buy. I've seen you do that. I swear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, send me the link because I will forget. Dude, first off, I'll take a picture after this. We'll send, we'll send fucking everyone the link. I think it's, is the short story even still up? That's what I'm saying. How do you even know? Is the what? Is the story even still up? What story? The store for the shirt. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's still for what it is. Yeah, yeah. No one's bought one in a hot minute. But it's still functional. Okay. Yeah. We have no, it's something that I realized after putting up my special last Friday.

45:44Not only after I put it up and Amit Ian said you want to come and talk about it on the radio, did I go, I should, I should build a press kit and message people about the business. Yeah, I want that too. I want your special. I'm so sorry, I've been under a rock, but you have to, you have to fucking message people. You have other stuff, you've had other stuff to deal with. Yeah. Did my tiny little comedy half hour can rest. That's very kind, but. Speaking of, if we can also circle back to something we were talking about just before we started. Yes. So, and before we get into this, last week, me, should I made meatloaf because we still have meatloaf all the time as a kid. I had meatloaf all the time as a kid, but I forgot what meatloaf actually tasted like, so I made meatloaf. You had a similar experience. Me? Yeah, the breast milk thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was like, I've never had meatloaf. I've never been talking about it. You have to say it like that. It's like sorry, no, no, no, no, I didn't mean to see.

46:47It is a sad food. It is. It scares me in general. That I don't, but I like nuggets and stuff, so I feel like it could work for me, honestly. Can I level with you? There's a reason as a culture we've moved on from it. Okay. So, it's not like a divorce dad's nugget. That sounds very sexy. I would like to take a bite of a divorce dad's nugget. That's not Jesus Christ. Because I think that's what a meatloaf is. Because a chicken nugget is a woman's. You know what I mean? Chicken nugget is a kid's. No, no, women, they've co-opted it. They've co-opted the nugget. Oh, yeah, they do. Yeah, actually, me short as chicken nuggets. Yeah. Yeah, I got them in the Hunter Valley the other day. Well, chicken nuggets are the tasting. No, it was a nice restaurant. We've had one wine with chicken nuggets. Yeah. They said, did you want that with the meat? And I said, that's an entree, obviously. Thank you very much. Yeah. And they brought some. Please, I'm not 10. Chicken nuggets to start. And then she drinks the wine like this. LAUGHTER I actually had a Diet Coke. Oh, that's right. Oh, sorry.

47:48Yeah, no, I tried breast milk for the first time. Way less hot than when I used to have it. But I'm kidding. I... No, no, no. No, no, no. We knew, but we just had... We couldn't say any of that. OK, good. We got this other pizza after that. Good, good. I... I don't want to bet some things publicly. But... I've wanted to try breast milk for some time. Mm-hmm. In many different ways, I have some autoimmune stuff going on. I feel like it's... They refer to it as liquid gold. A lot. Oh, wow. So I'm thinking, I have a friend actually who can't stop breastfeeding, lucky. And I'm like, can I have... Can I... What do you like it? What do you mean she can't stop breast? As in, like, her kid just will not get off the tent? I think it's a really easy way to settle a baby. And so... Sure. If you got good flow and the baby's loving it, it's very hard to stop because it's just like they cry, give them the boob.

48:49It's like that you guys know what it's like. We all know what it's like. I get sad. I need some boob. I do understand. They help. I saw someone complaining about Sydney's twin-eats-to-its side note. Oh, I'll tell you what. I think I might be that guy. What do you in the one quarter of the population who doesn't like tits? It's not that. It's the fact that they are forced upon me everywhere. It's that. It's that. I'm trying to live a clean life, dude. I'm going to be honest with you. I have to... I have to... After everything that's being forced on us, AI compliance, fucking, the fact that I have to have a job. Sydney's twin-eats-to-its are so low on my complaint. But you feel this way about the white foxes as on the back of the bus. I love that woman. I don't know her name. Jesus fucking cross. She's so scary and hard. So scary. Dude, she's such a bitch. I want her to slap me. We've been doing... I have the same thing with Elizabeth Holmes and Erica Kirk's eyes. She's so angry. I'm like, fuck, you could really ruin my life. Yes. I appreciate that entirely. Yeah. Anyway, sorry. We're related. Yeah, yeah. It seems like you guys have a great time. No, this...

49:49Sydney's twin-eats-to-its just... I'll tell you what. It's more of an artistic integrity thing for me. Right? It's just being like, you know what? You did the female boxing movie. And then you gave up because dudes didn't go for it because that's your main audience. And I thought she was going to try to do this sort of like, hey, you can have tits and be a great actor. And now she's just really just leaned into tits. Yeah, and to me, it's more watching the death of a woman's spirit that hurts me. I think it's that I'm like, you had dreams. Yeah. Stick with them. Yeah. Don't sell out to some random gambling ad just because you have tits. Yeah. No, I don't. You mean we all could and we don't. And we could... Some money. Everyone here could do that. We could all do that. All right. You guys could... I feel like that. Every time I say, what do I do? The way Sen. You guys got things to show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't get a fucking... I'm advertising page showings with my asshole. If we put our stomachs together, it might look like one pit.

50:50It's... Look, I don't actually love being in the business of criticizing women that are... Yeah, making some more benign questionable business choices as soon as gambling comes in. I'm like, it sucks. It sucks. I still think she's a genuinely think she's a great actor. Yeah, she's... Yeah, it's all right. She is. She's brilliant. She's also hot as fuck. She's hot as hell. I do get annoyed a little bit going, God, I wish I could live without morals because that is easier. And I think right now she's just... Amy Pulla said this. Just sit down. Sit back, boys. I got this for a second. I'm reading half of... I read a quarter of a book recently. Nice. Nice, very nice. Amy Pulla. Sit down and be educated. I read an Amy Pulla book. Amy Pulla said, you got to choose what your currency is, young in life. And I think that Sydney's chosen tits. Yeah. And it's unfortunate because there is a time limit on a currency of sexuality, right?

51:51Of course. And if she is doing that consciously, then she's... It seems like she is because she's caching the fucking girl while she can. And then Hannah's maybe she comes out and she goes, actually, I was a undercover... And actually, I've got a... I was working for Massage. Yeah, maybe. I don't know who that is. My tits are recording devices. I was trying to catch the... Yeah. I was a very poor choice to break up the pedophile ring. They harvest energy through attention and they feed them back to the bombs. Chloe, is there anything you'd like to plug? Yes. Yes. Yes. Which is? Me. Like it... My... Haha. Haha. God damn it. Angela White said that, actually, when I had her on my podcast. People couldn't listen to that. Can you get us in touch? Yeah, we'd love to have Angela White. I mean, yeah. I can't. You can talk to my management who got me in touch.

52:51You know Johnny Z. Let's plug a team down. Let's plug a team up. That's true. Remember we can collab. Yeah. You just DM her as well. She's pretty receptive. I've seen. Hey. She's her... She's her receptive woman and I'm a... Debra Big fan. The friend request. That's my podcast. The friend request. Wonderful podcast. Me and Sam have both been on it. Sam, do you have anything? The couple times. Yes. Yes. Great pod. From the river to the other place, it's out now on YouTube, Sam Bowden, Comic on YouTube. If you like it, please fucking share it, leave a comment, it's going quite well. And I really enjoy it. And if you're from Queensland, fucking tell everyone. It's about Queensland politics. And I remind myself of that when I look at the view count. So, like, hold on. This is a niche topic. But I've been... I've been enjoying it and the feedback's been great. So, thank you everyone that's messaged me. And if you haven't seen it, go watch it. I'm really proud of the body of work. Hell yeah. Much love, team. See you gang. Bye. It's fall in Jeep country. And during the drive into fall sales event,

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