BREAKING: Phoenix Suns Sign Center Duop Reath After Mark Williams Injury

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2:01of center center forward. Wop Reath. Lots of talk about with him, but first and foremost, he answers that void left by the injury sustained by Mark Williams. We found out last week that Mark Williams underwent surgery to repair a torn labor man is left shoulder. We talked about come on mile watch being the answer on Friday and then on Monday, we talked about options that the Suns could look toward to fill that void. We didn't even mention Duop Reath and then we find out today a report from Shaham Sharani about an hour ago that the Suns are signing Duop Reath to a deal. That's all we know. It's a deal. We don't know what kind of deal we know if it's a camp deal. We know if it's a veteran's minimum deal. We don't know what the corresponding moves are, but we're going to talk about all of that, but first we'll start with what we know. Stephen, when you think about Duop Reath and everything that he's done in his first three seasons on an NBA roster, what comes to mind first as far as strengths go? Yes, far as strength. Well, even before the strengths, I go to the Suns having been subtly flirting with the idea of the wild now on the roster for some time. And it's like, you know, teams keep tabs on players might not

3:05always be the perfect timing. It might not happen with the first instance of connection, but somewhere down the line, maybe something shakes in their favor. Maybe it's an unfortunate situation like an injury to a critical piece that they have to fill a void for in some capacity. And that's what opens up the opportunity to push it across the finish line. But that's what comes in mind first. And I think the fact that he is someone they can just naturally just shoot the basketball for the Suns in the front court. As shown to do that as well as any other skill that he brings. I think honestly, it's something different than anything the Suns have had in their front court in particular, and especially from someone as of the center size. And a decade for Devon Booger, maybe a little bit longer than that. Like it's been a long time since he's at a viable three point shooting big. And that's something fun. Should he actually get minutes in the mainstream capacity? And I think that's important to talk about because he's talking about what you think about when you hear him first, but also it's important for those of you who aren't as familiar with Dua Rie, who is Dua Rie? Well, he is going into his

4:06fourth year in the NBA this past season. He averaged 2.9 points and 1.2 boards per game for the Portland Trailblazers, but shot 41.8% from three years is third year in the NBA all spent with the Trailblazers organization spent time in the G league and with the big Trailblazers. His averages have gone down each year. We talked about him being a center. I said center forward. He's listed at 6.9, 245 pounds. So I feel like when you watch him play, he plays a little bit bigger than he actually looks or that he's actually listed as. And the three point shooting is something that does pop off career. 35.7% three point shooter. We talk about that very, very, very crowded center rotation in Portland with all the guys they had. He fell out of his way with them and ended up not there anymore. Obviously leading him here. But before that, this guy is a guy who grinded it to get everywhere. The blue collar is very evident in every step of his journey. Born in South Sudan, moved to Australia, has represented Australia and international competition at the Olympics,

5:07won a bronze with Australia and Tokyo in the 2020 games were played in 2021. But a guy who started at Juco, he played two years of junior cars basketball, went to LSU, played there for two seasons, put up solid numbers for the Tigers. And then played overseas for several years before finally finding the right NBA situation. That sounds kind of familiar to other guys that we've heard on the Phoenix Suns who it took to some time. They grinded, they played with that chip on their shoulder that blue collar nature of his game. I think that will fit in very well as far as him being a fit for the hard working nature of guys on this team. Yeah, 100% and I think that's something that when you have that not just that something that's in common, but it's a common adversity that everyone's worked through. It's different for you in terms of the what you're bringing to the team dynamic of it all. So even for someone who may not factor into the main rotation, at least not in a substantial manner at least,

6:10there's going to be a certain level of gratitude that you enter the room with every day that you approach every day with that you approach the objectives bestowed upon you with every day. And those are the type of pillars to again a culture that they're working to establish here in Phoenix that it precedes you before you actually walk in. So if you're if you're someone that there's mutual interest in terms of attraction between all existing parties, you know what time it is when you step into that opportunity, you stamp it with your signature on paper. And it is to say Dwaap is going to be someone that works hard now. He does have some parts of his game that are going to leave something to be desired. Not the most tenacious rebounder. It's not the best defender, especially if you're talking about defending in space or defending to the levels that we've seen. Come on and also be tasked with in terms of picking role, being at the level, switching, hedging, blitzing all those things. Those are not truly his strong suits. But I think that that workers mentality more than

7:14anything for that last kind of roster, despite if you will, to fill a void in place of Mark Williams and something that they probably valued as much as anything tangible, skill wise that they could potentially add. If you can just add to the ecosystem, that's enough of a boost on the margins for them to find ways to navigate things that were they desire to. And Darryl say that's okay. I know you mentioned some of the weaknesses that he has. And obviously if he did not have those weaknesses, he wouldn't be a free agent at this stage of the offseason. So I think it's okay to acknowledge that he is not a perfect player by any means. But for this guy who is brought into potentially round out your center rotation, a guy who you want to maybe just give you quality minutes, maybe somewhere between seven and 11 quality minutes in that center rotation with Kamala watch with Ose Gidaro. As you mentioned, the strengths that he does have, giving you a different look, giving you some perimeter shooting, somebody who Kamala watch can maybe learn the ends and outs of being a stretch big in the NBA, not the entirety of it. But some bits and pieces of that because you know, I want to go back a couple

8:17of years and it's important. I think I mentioned it the journey that he got here. He's not your typical fourth year NBA player. While I read this 30 years old. So he's not necessarily the youngest guy, but he had a stellar rookie season with the Portland Treble just team in 2324 that wasn't very good. The average 9.1 points per game, 3.7 boards per game, but he also started in 20 games for Portland that year. And as a starter, he averaged just a shade under 14 points, a shade under six boards and actually a shade under two assists per game. And his best year this past, this best game this past season was against Oklahoma City. When OK, he was eight and no, it hadn't lost a game yet. Portland beat them 121 19. I think they came back to 20 down in that game. But do I come off the bench and went four or five from three, but also dished out to assist. So you think about dribble handoff stuff. He's very cerebral player. Oftentimes you see these guys who play internationally, guys who play for programs like the Australian national team. They have a certain level of feel for the game that they pick up during that time. He also played overseas for some time, played in Australia. I think he played in Serbia as

9:18well. So he's been all over and learned the different ways that the game has been played. So when you talk about that gratitude, you talk about the grit, the spot minutes that he can give you should be very quality spot and minutes because of the specific things that he does very well. And the physical profile that comes with those skills. And I think there's some, there's some bits of overlap that you like to see between him and come on, Malauash in the sense of you can put them, you can place them in your office beyond the three point line and whether they're catching and shooting or they're catching it and moving it to the next action. You can viably expect for those guys to provide in that type of role. And that's something that keeps the defense accountable to a certain extent. Now, obviously, you have to make the shots to ultimately force their hand and not rotate an off of you. But I think just being able to have a center that you can space above the break and do so with the level of respect that'll come from a defense at least in a marginal capacity. And something that helps you kind of build your offense out a little bit more uniquely than big is in a

10:21darker spot, big is in the mid post, big is at the elbow. Otherwise, it's just kind of there in the way a little bit. I think that's something that changes things up for them. He's a change of pace. Even to what come on brings and obviously to what also brings and that's something that again, if he is getting in the game, that's some some areas that he can kind of ask some dynamic nature to absolutely. And that's the thing. I think it's important to think about that as well. We've seen the question a couple of times. Sam and asked Don just asked the same thing as well. We appreciate everybody who was here hanging out with us on this Wednesday night, popping in on short notice for an emergency pod about the news that the sons have added to our breath ahead of training camp. And that's the question. What kind of deal it is? And Shams didn't give us many details about what kind of deal it is. We're not sure what kind of deal it is. But there are a couple of different things because we saw the niches did this. They signed a couple of guys to exhibit nine deals for that final rock spot because they have a final roster spot. The sons do not. There are 15 guys on standard contracts

11:23and three guys on two eight contracts. Now, believe you can carry up to 22, if not 20, going in a training camp and it's important to remember, Jamari Bueye, Heywood Highsmith are both on partially guaranteed deal. I think Bueye, I mean, I think highsmith's deal is now non guaranteed based on everything that's going on right now when they restructure the deal after they wager in the summer and brought him back. So my eyes go directly to them first. You know, I think it's going to be a prove it type situation. I don't think and I don't know if anybody has to be let go to facilitate this move. And that's the case. Then it's going to be a show and prove opportunity. This could be much to do about nothing and they decide that they want to stick with what they have right now. But if nothing else, it's a great flyer to take to see if you want to value what he brings to the table more than what they potentially bring to the table. Yeah, for sure. And I think I just the the roster building in mind for me, I just look at things like, okay, what's the one position of depth of great depth that the sons have probably seven seven players deep at the

12:29guard position. I hate to say it because we obviously have enjoyed Jamari Bueye's ascent with the Phoenix sons and the impact that he's provided. We talked about the things that we can assume he does behind closed doors at practice and getting guys prepared for whatever matchups at the guard position. They're going up against in terms of being on like a scout team if you will and things like that. But when you look at Devon, Jaylin, Luke, Colin, like, there's a lot of pieces in that guard group to where it's like where the minute is going to come from. And if you have to part with something while keeping the depth that you do have at other positions so that you can insulate a spot that lost a major minute earning piece in terms of the starting group with the centers. I hate to say it, but it feels like it. This one has Jamari written all over it. But we love to be wrong. And if they could find a way to keep them all, then you do that for the sake of continuity.

13:31But it feels like one of those dire situations where it's like, yeah, we signed you under constraints knowing that if something popped off, and we had to make a move like this that we're not getting the DPE for designated players exception for we have to we have our hand kind of forced on the roster just to make sure that we're keeping our ducks in the row in case of other potential injuries and things like that. This feels like the kind of uneasy part of the business there. 100% this the rough part of the business for sure. And Jamari, B.A. made a way. I made a spot and carved a lane for himself in this league based on the injuries happening to the sons of guard depth. Last year's reason that they have so many guards on this roster, because they've dealt with so much to that guard rotation last year to where he was playing meaningful minutes about 10 days into being with the team on a two way contract. And you mentioned a lot of guards and one that you didn't mention. I think made me raise my eyebrows about Jamari, B.A. in the first place is Pat Spencer. And when they brought Pat Spencer in on a two way deal,

14:31the guy who's played very, very meaningful minutes for gold state warriors team who had a lot to play for last year. They didn't reach what they were trying to get. But believe me, if this guy didn't add to winning basketball, Steph Curry, Dremond Green, Jimmy Butler would have been like, get him out of the room. We don't want like our horror food. We don't trust him. We don't need. But he passed the test with those guys, ultimate competitors. So I think his role is not going to be that of a typical two way player. He and Jamari B.A. are not the same player by any means. But if it were to be Jamari B.A. His addition, the addition of Pat Spencer, because I think there's a bigger picture and play with him, that is the one that gives me not peace because it would be tough to see Jamari go. But that would be the answer there. Now, there's the other way of thinking though, there's Hayward Hotsman. There's a look at the wing, Rangy, 3 and D, potential small ball five death. Because we talked about that. We power ranked who's best suited to do that. We've talked about Ryan Dunn and his ability. And he's like the guy who con is under the

15:35radar in these all season conversations. What if he just makes a big leap? Rashir Fleming is a leap that we're anticipating. They brought in these guys who will play the three in the four and maybe small ball five. Co-oped is a guy who could be called upon and is a part of the long term future. But what if he's ahead of schedule? I do think that's why the show improve element and aspect of everything we see at training camp will give them the decision makers and the idea of what they have and who they're more comfortable with parting ways with to facilitate this edition. Yeah, 100% nothing that's that's an important dynamics of bringing into it because it says that the question about he would have to tell as well makes a difficult thing to talk about. For sure. For sure. And that's something you do have to keep in mind. Question for you though. So just think kind of assessing okay, where they are right now. What we're looking at in terms of who might or might not be on the roster come training camp in a few weeks. If you were a decision maker, which route would you go? And then I'll play off of that too because I have I'm kind of split right now between who am I choosing between

16:39Jim Marry and Heywood. Because there's some unknowns on both sides as far as if a guard pops here or if a wing pops there and that shifts the math for you a little bit. So I'm going to be honest with you. I go back to the Pat Spencer thing. I kind of feel like there was a succession plan in place that maybe that he gets on a standard contract because that's kind of a guy you want to in the trenches with you when you're playing meaningful basketball in late March and April and you don't want to limit him to just 50 games. And I can't really foresee him playing that much in 10 p because he's also 30 years old. So I kind of felt like there was not a play or a play or a plan to get your Mario out of here, but it kind of feels like they've taken that to account already. So with that in mind and the questions about Heywood's health and also the belief in your young guys who could in theory be better versions of him, but they have not yet, which is why you keep Heywood around. Yeah. That is kind of the way that I see this playing out in the deals that correspond with

17:41this. So it would be Heywood gone to facilitate this to give yourself more depth at the four or five position, five position. And then Jamaria would think that when they need to make a decision about Pat and his 50 game mark, if we get to that 30 40 mark for him and there isn't a deal that freeze up a roster spot with some of the players who may be fall out of their way with the team, then I think it goes that way, but I think it gives you the flexibility to both things if you go that route. Yeah, that's that's kind of where I was looking at things. Not necessarily thinking about the pat dynamic in it all, but just because I can have to buy the way they could get traded for both of these guys. He's safe for sure. That's also very true. And this needless to say, based off of things we heard literally last season, even while Ryan's minutes were in flux, other franchises value are Ryan done as shown on film and what his potential suggests that he can be as well. So that might be something that they have like a spade in their back pocket, if

18:43you will, if they ever want to press that button. But I lean towards and that's why I brought up the guard depth portion of it because there's a little more matter of fact with at least their top four guards and comparison to the wing group where you talk about miles, you talk about dealing. Duh, duh, duh. You know, there's a little bit, there's a little bit less content, not confidence, but there's a little less for sure type of dynamic to what your wings are going to bring aside from those who there's a little bit of variance on the health side with Heywood. There's some highs and lows and it's kind of a roller coaster at times where Ryan done in terms of streamlining his game to what we know his potential suggests that he can be. And everyone else that goes underneath those guys, just at least a little bit of question marks to things. So I err on the side of wanting to keep your wings around as much as you can and seeing what you have there. And that unfortunately puts it back to the Jamari part of the conversation where

19:43I could see them pardon with him. And it does come down to that point, I could just look at the exact same thing that I said and say it the opposite way where it's like, it is Jamari now you bring Dwapin and then when you want to elevate Pat, because I feel like I don't want to talk like I know anything. This is just me kind of making an educated guess best based on who Pat Spencer is, based on who the sons want to be and based on who he could be for the sons. There's got to be a plan in place for him to eventually be on a standard contract because he was just on one last year. And why would you agree to be on two-way contract that there wasn't a bigger picture in play? And I think that they want to have more than just training camp, but maybe a quarter is worth of a season's assessment of what they have on this team. And that's where the whole idea of Heywood's contract just being kind of guaranteed as it goes that holds a lot of weight because if his knees not responding like he wants it to where they want it to, which I hope it does, man. I hope so because

20:44injuries suck and when guys bodies aren't doing what they want them to be able to do what they've done for so long, it's so frustrating because there's out of your control in a lot of ways. And I want to see first for Heywood, the person in play, but then for the sons, what that would mean for them because then you go back to the conversation of there's got to be an odd man out. You can't play everybody. So whoever it is that you cannot play or who falls out of their way or holds the most value that you can net a second back for whoever it is might it be Ryan done, whatever the case may be, that was kind of like the odd man out, but he could be the guys I was saying everybody slipped on this off season that has a big year and it's like, oh man, he's pushing somebody else down. So it's a good problem to have and that there going to be a lot of positional battles. And now with this guys are fighting for roster spots. It heightens the sense of urgency a lot. There's rewarding and then there's remarkably rewarding with Chase Sapphire

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22:45training videos before I hit the gym. So no Wi-Fi doesn't turn leg day into loading day. Plus I get ad free videos, background play and so much more. YouTube Premium is like YouTube got some extra gains. Try YouTube Premium for two months free at youtube.com slash premium. Trial eligibility varies terms apply cancel anytime. It does it does and I think that's that's something to think about when you're factoring in what their next move might potentially be. Not necessarily the next thing I'm speaking on isn't necessarily directly aligned with that train of thought but it is another domino and me just thinking through layer by layer. What does this mean to what it is they have at this present moment. So you go back to our conversation that we had earlier this week as well as at the till end of last week after we got the unfortunate Mark Williams news that came through the news waves. And talk about solutions and we talked about all of the internal solutions that are on the chessboard for Jordan, Brian Gregory and the sons and we got to CJ Huntley

23:49at a certain point and people were asking me if I felt like he was ready for potentially carving out main rotation minutes or at least eating up some minutes in case of files or injury or you know something like that on the big league suns roster and I've just flat out said because we weren't able to see him play on the summer league stage can't firmly say yes or no on that front. I can base it off of what I saw most recently with them which is a handful of 20 and 10 games going down the home stretch of the G Lee schedule where he was the starting big and he was doing a lot of the things that's not insignificant. Oh not at all right not at all. It's something for him to build off of that confidence the game was slowing down for him for sure but for the sons themselves the day think that that was enough to see about it. I think this news that we got on the WAP today in particular maybe suggested they don't want to over-task what CJ built up to to end last season remember lost this

24:50lost this two way then got or lost his contract initially had to go and get it back in a different capacity and ultimately was able to do that and then still finish the season strong like those things matter but I do think they feel like they he's in a spot where they maybe want him to get more of those reps on that level continue to build the confidence we're also having built this body up closer to NBA level guy that they need them to be and then seeing about it maybe after a second full season on a G Lee stay. That's really important to note when you mentioned that when we were having the conversation about CJ Huntly he's still around because they see something in him and they believe in him because if they did not this is a business is not about sparing anybody's feelings he'd be gone and there's something that has clicked with him you mentioned those games and I said it's not insignificant putting up 20 and 10 in a level of basketball but specifically professional basketball is something to build on but it's understandable that you would want to add somebody and WAP Breathe who has played about 150 games in the NBA has had

25:53some very high highs I talked about his numbers as a starter as a rookie with the trouble is albeit a bad trouble is his team he still had moments going four or five from deep against OKC and a comeback victory when they hadn't lost the game yet this season is not insignificant so when I sit here and we talk about the news and there are more people filing in we appreciate you hanging out with us CBC to troll back on patrol Kevaux is in the chat what's up Ace what's up my life in the pH X sunshine all you guys actually hanging out with us as well Ceaseless surfer here with us on a Wednesday evening appreciate you all hanging out with us we have a poll if you have not voted already let us know your thoughts about this signing it feels like the feedback is overwhelmingly positive and with that now Mark Williams we know out until at least mid February so you have a center rotation just pure centers guys who are going to play a majority center come on my watch also you G'daro and potentially

26:55Dwaakreathe should he make this final roster and then you have that group of guys who can play small ball five miles bridges maybe Dylan Brooks still depending on where he is and how much he wants to do that you have the young guys like Rishia Fleming you also have Hey what high Smith who is a big question mark for a number of reasons after everything that's happened over the last what five days when we first got the news has your confidence level gone up gone down moved anything how much does this move the needle this news in this development today yeah it was a 6.5 I think I gave it out of 10 yeah I'm still I'm still there okay that's really shifted much I have done back into some man man film looking at things maybe a little bit more closely just with the news of Mark and mine I have a film session not on that over the next handful of days but no I'm about not sexy pick up it to keep one like I took a

27:59cue signing that's that's a that's a that's a way to put it that's for sure I'm not I'm not I haven't shifted anywhere y'all still sitting at that that six and a half definitely room to prove things for sure and there's some natural weaknesses that are going to be baked into that group as well but I do think you could be a lot worse off than having someone that you have starting proof of concept with as recent as last season and literally in the play-in and play off stage with also as well as a big that you're building your confidence up with and internally investing into the extent that you are with um with come on my lower so I'm still sitting at that 6.5 how about you I think I said I was like like I think I said I was right there it made like 6.2 yeah because and I say that and and I and I and I say it like kind of ingest but I also say it seriously in that it doesn't move the needle that much I think it's something that raises your floor a little bit that's like man you don't

29:02feel like it's them or nothing you have a guy who's played meaningful minutes in the NBA who can come in just to be a little bit more insurance you have a guy who can come in and maybe find some success in a different NBA system it's important to remember that he's only played and only suited up for the Portland Trailblazers in actual games so and and Espo points it out gotta give Brian Gregory credit for what he's been able to do with guys on the back of the roster the creativity that's been needed with marginal signings given the team's limitations financially and then the injury constraints that they've had to work around time and time and time and time again and if history has taught us anything with some of these guys who have been added in the margins they've been really big pickups like we were really high on Haywood Highsmith largely because we're basketball sickles but when I think of guys like that also because like I try to play that a little bit so like I appreciate a guy like that and also shout out to D2 guys making a name for themselves at the highest level of basketball but we saw the peak of that and

30:07that was what you envision when that signing came in during all star you said a bigger version Jordan Goodwin he was that against the Celtics and unfortunately it was injury that kept him from being that more we saw Jamari Buele figured out we've seen all these different guys who have been added we saw Jordan Goodwin be the last guy to make the roster and now be a player we cannot envision this team without a culture tone setter for the second unit and for the team as a whole so you never know and I'm not sitting here saying that Dua Breath is the next person to be that but I'm also not saying that he won't be because we've seen in time and time again that there's a chance that that could happen just because this front office this scouting department knows how to just recognize those traits within guys that they can get the most out of and I'm at the very least excited to see if they can get it out of him yeah 100 percent I think guys in the in the music industry rappers in particular as a there's an adage no bars off so you don't waste the line to

31:10fill out your 16 or your 32 or your hook or whatever it is you working towards you don't waste those in a basketball sense you're not going to waste the roster spots you're not going to mess around waste money correct the margin is not to get there giving these people real money this is not monopoly money right right this is like if you just if you say you want to be aligned yourself with teams like or franchise is like Oklahoma City that's what they're not doing they're not going to be wasting roster spots everything they're doing is going to be pointed and directed and it's going to be a domino piece one try one piece trying to fall into the next and keeping up the infrastructure of everything that it is they're working towards with their ecosystem I think this is something that the sons it feels like the decisions they've made even on the most margin of margins like a bouillet made season or the while brief less than a week after losing your starting center there's intense behind these things and I think that kind of razor sharp approach it

32:13feels akin to what we've seen teams like or franchise is like the Celtics obviously the thunder and to different degrees the San Antonio Spurs and the more recent capacity you say you want to be one of those teams you don't have to tell us much we'll see it in the habits and decisions that you're making on a day-to-day basis and feels like the sons to esposal's point are aligning themselves with that with each and every opportunity that passes and that's one of the things one of the final things that final points that I'll make we're using the word insurance policy death and detrol said is he good enough for the sons to survive without Mark Williams flat out no it's not but that's not a lot of wreath is not that good but that's not what he's being brought in to do you're banking on man-man being good enough to be like oh man this is what we expected you to be in your head of schedule because you were thrust in this position to where you had to do more oh see good or your thrust in this position where you had to do more you bring a do-op wreath in a situation where it's like paying man-man picked up two thousand first two fifty one a game

33:15play and we don't want to overload oh so or man these guys are you know we need to space the floor we need some shooting from beyond the arc he's a very different looking that he knows how to do it he makes some audacious three from beyond the arc sometimes really good from the corner at least during that okay see game and he had one where he was just feeling it and he had a hand just facing like I got you here boom take that so I think that that's more of the the yeah and and you could be a guy who stands in the way of guys taking on too much because we've talked about it so much in the NBA now where unless you have a a superstar and the hope is that come on Mala watch one day becomes that but you're not expecting to be that in year two you just play the center position by committee and by committee it's you might have one guy who's a lot there one guy's a stretch center one guy who can be a connector see what I'm going with this so you can just get 48 solid minutes of center play and maybe thirty seven knows minutes come from guys who are more traditional centers

34:19maybe you get 11 minutes small ball and it varies it fluctuates because what the Denver game and Houston game might require is a little bit different from when you play again Charlotte or Boston or I should say more teams in the rest of Congress but seems like they go stay like when you teams that you're going to see are going to require different things based on the way their roster is made up and it's good to be able to have different looks at that super position and with Mark going down I think that as unfortunate as that is because flat out unless come on my watch makes that leave this team is not as good without Mark Williams but they can find ways to be good in a different way and also can find ways to have more variance at the center position because with Mark man that also there wasn't as much variance yeah 100% I think that's very important when you're looking at why bringing in the weapons that are bringing in any of the other center names or options out there in free agency that we spoke through why this one made a little bit more sense than a

35:23I want to be disrespectful so I want to go that route but some of the older gentlemen that we spoke to maybe guys that play a somewhat similar brand of basketball to do I breathe being able to space the floor but in terms of the tread on the tires of their career it's a lot thinner than someone like Duwap who is maybe a little bit older but has only been in the NBA for four years so I think it hits a little different when you bring in a guy like that and I'm not I mean there's only but so much you're expecting from your last guy on the roster now if you're a smart son's fan which all of our sons fans are they're black well Stephen guess who they brought in on the last roster spot last year Jordan going how what did that turn out that is a very much once in a once in a while anomaly type of instance that you get a goody a good guy and goody at your last spot on your roster so I don't think he's gonna have the same type of expectations or tasks that Jordan Goodwin was given early in the

36:23season so very different context that he's been brought in but I do think of the pieces that we're talking about there were options even though we didn't mention him he's probably one that would have been at the top of that no for sure and you never know lightning cast struck twice before in the same place so we'll see and I can go back to the identification the process the fact that they added him particularly for a reason so we'll see how that plays out we appreciate all of you hanging out with us and maybe get that vote in in the poll before it closes let us know your thoughts about the what we sign and do you think it was nothing at all something or everything for the sons and their pursuit of improving upon last season in the absence of starting center mark Williams make sure to leave a like and subscribe to the channel if you have not already follow us at pH and X underscore sons we got more to come about everything film session on the way soon we might have some more on do our reasons for people who are very very qualified to speak on him so keep

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