BEARS VS JETS PREVIEW: Will Tyson Bagent START for Bears on Sunday? I CHGO Bears After Dark Podcast

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3:04bears are going to pick up a victory this Sunday and hopefully move themselves to three and one on the season. Patrick man, how are you today? Fresh off a hall is hall. How are you feeling? I'm terrific. I'm terrific. How are you doing? I'm depressed because I also host the C H show cup show as we see some C C C C C C C C fans in here like Chris Boucher, Hoppin in the chatman, watching in the morning from Northern Ireland. So shout out to you. We got Sarah in the chat here. Is saying slay. We got Keegan drop on the first like way to go. Appreciate you. We're going to be here for the next 60 minutes breaking down bears at Jets. Patrick, let's kick off with some news and notes just really quickly. I think one of the weird interesting storylines or maybe one of the surprising side stories of this bears quest to the season is Kyler Gordon. Chicago bears opened up a 21 day window for him to return to practice. And you've got some Ben Johnson sound from Hallis today, but catch us up with

4:05everything that you know right now about Kyler Gordon. He's clearly not playing this week. But what does this path look like for the bears to get Kyler Gordon back on the field? Yeah, I think the answer right now is that we don't know. The 21 day window means that and this was opened up two days ago, I believe. So he has rights. So now he's got 19 days to be added to the active roster or he's done for the year. So there are some there are some stakes kind of coming up here in the next couple of weeks to figure out if what if and what he can contribute down the line. Now Dennis Allen was complimentary of him yesterday and said, you know, we're a better team when you have a talent like him on the field and Ben Johnson reiterated that in another level of that today. But is he going to be back in foot with all shape? We've seen him on the practice field now the last two days.

5:08Seeing him out there on Thursday, he looks quick. He looks, you know, all these things. It's just a matter of actually getting him out there and being able to figure out if he's going to be capable and reliable for the steam down the stretch. Yeah, let's hear a little bit from Ben Johnson that Patrick talked to today at House Hall, obviously talking about the possible hopefully soon, but working towards return of Kyler Gordon. He's a phenomenal football player and we have just been in a struggle. Everybody everybody's been in struggle to get him out there. And so, you know, we let that he's out there now. I'm more than happy to talk about anybody that's out on the field. He's out there right now and, you know, we're excited about what the future could possibly hold, but it's a matter of putting in a good day's work every single day, stacking consecutive days up. And we'll take it from there, but he is a very talented player.

6:10He always has been. It's just unfortunate since we got in the building a year and a half ago, we haven't had him available very much. And so we'll work through that. And if he can help the team, he's going to help the team. Excellent response there from Ben Johnson. Using the word, obviously, struggle and, you know, trying to as evenly, even keel this possible, just trying to explain general frustration with a guy who is very talented. And when he's on the field, he truly does, he looks a little bit like Spider-Man out there. And that's part of the name and it's a well earned nickname. But Patrick, I'm, you know, in these moments right now, especially when you do a show, everyone expects you to have some kind of opinion. I want to reserve my opinion on this particular topic right now until he gets back to practice fully because I'll be honest, I'm not jumping in the snark tank on this one. Okay. Okay. I can easily be, I can easily be the snark night.

7:12I can be snark night rises right now. I can get, I can definitely jump my teeth into some optimism or maybe lack thereof about what the, where the situation is going. Well, let's see how he progresses in a week to week basis and see if we can get him back on the field. Right. I, I, I don't know if there's a concrete feeling that anyone could have or should have on the situation at this stage. Some people are saying, well, they're calling Carlos Bluff. I don't know. I mean, they are a better team when Carla Gordon is on the field. So is there an element of maybe trying to force his hand and get him out there as fast as possible? Sure, but Kyler also had to be comfortable coming back in order for the store to work out. So just a lot of moving parts to it. There's a chance that just in, in two and a half weeks, he is put on the 53 man roster and then place.

8:15And then this becomes kind of a non story once he's out there once or twice or three times and, and has a decent performance. But as you pointed out, even last year when he, when he missed, probably I would say more than 10 games of last season. And then is back in, in random different games and then out again and things like that. But he was in for the post season. And he had moments where he did not look quick enough to be out there on the post season. And he, and he got burned by Jaden Reed a couple times against the Packers. And then he had a couple different plays here and there against the Rams that, that made people kind of wonder or question like how, how healthy is he right at this moment? He also had a few different plays where it was like dang, that's, that's, that's what Kyler Gordon can do. Dennis Allen loves the Blitz from the nickel. We've seen it with Malik Muhammad through the first couple of weeks. And then Muhammad was moved outside. We saw a little bit with Cam Lewis last week before he exited with injury.

9:22Kyler Gordon is one of the better players at being able to do that out of the nickel. So you're. The idea that, oh, well, maybe they're showcasing a player for the trade deadline. I don't, I don't, I don't see that being the case, considering that he hasn't played. What, what team is going to want to acquire a contract that A, would leave some dead space for the bears and, and just isn't a very maneuverable thing. And then also with the questions of, is he actually available to you when you need him? This, to me, it's just the bears saying, we are a better team with you on the field. Let's get you back on the field. Let's see if, you know, we can stress test you in the next 21 days and actually put you out there. Yeah. Football players got to play. Let's see how this month plays out. And again, I'm going to reserve my judgment because I will not be CHGO after snark. Absolutely delicious. Bro delicious. Oh, great. Let's, let's kick this over enough, Collar Gordon stuff. So let's get to the quarterback.

10:25Let's get to the quarterback. Slide a hand if you will from Ben Johnson. We've got run outspoken in Kirichats saying, eat rep reports as it's Tyson taking first team reps. You've been at practice all week, but they are playing things very close to the vest right now. Let's just open it up. Let's keep it very simple Patrick. As it stands right now, who do you believe will be under center for the Chicago bears? This Sunday versus the jets. I'd imagine it's Tyson. And I think that we got the, the first hint at that right on Monday night when, when Ben said, agent was named the number two out of camp for a reason. And he wouldn't go as far. He certainly wasn't going to go as far as naming a starter for week four in the, in the immediate aftermath of case kingdoms, a wonderful week three. But it felt like that was kind of the hint that anyone that, that everyone kind of should have run with in just terms of, yeah, this Ben believes in Tyson. Tyson just wasn't available. And he also believes in case and case was available.

11:29But in the packing order that was laid out at the end of training camp, it went Caleb Tyson case. I did appreciate and I don't think I included this part in the clip. But he does. He did say earlier today, he said, and who knows, maybe, maybe we'll throw Miller Moss into that conversation, the fourth stringer who's, who's currently on the practice squad. So, you know, it's all a game. This is just typical NFL head coach, misdirection, I think. But I, I would, I would think that it's going to be Tyson, agent comes Sunday. That's where it seems like it's leaning, right? As we say, Rappaport says he's taking all the first team reps. Right. And makes a ton of sense. There's an added layer component to all this too that obviously Aaron Glen and Ben Johnson used to be colleagues. Aaron Glen, if I remember correctly, last year with Justin Fields' quarterback would also take a deep into the week,

12:30regarding who would be under center for his particular team. And I think that there's just a couple of small things like I think by and large, Tyson in case, I think they will mostly run the same offense except for like one really, really important point of, I'm not saying Tyson, agent is going to be running for first downs with his legs. He could be very well could. But if you're able to just have the jets thinking once or, you know, one or two different ways about what quarterbacks can be out there, the one would be obviously like with Tyson, you can run some bootleg and you can run a little stretch, right? Like poststaff. That's that's really the only difference there in my personal opinion. That's really going to separate those two quarterbacks is a couple extra plays. I think all the formations are going to be the same. You're going to see 12 personnel, 13 personnel. But if you're able to roll a couple of those roll outs and maybe a couple quick little dump offs to Colston, maybe that's something that Tyson can do that case can him just simply that's not in his repertoire. Right.

13:30And that's kind of the unbelievable part about how the Bears roster is currently constructed. And it really is a hat tip to Ben Johnson for having the belief in all three quarterbacks and saying all three of these guys, I can I can game plan for and I can run an offense through. When at the end of the day, they're all also much like they're all different quarterbacks. And I obviously in name, obviously in stature, obviously in a in a variety of ways, but they are all they all car my friendship in Mark Carmen right right. What they like they all provide a right they all provide a different skill set that that then believes the whole game plan around and believes that he can succeed with. So that that just is kind of an interesting wrinkle to it is that you're right. Tyson does provide a little bit more with his likes. Then then say case kingdom and then Caleb can provide a lot with his legs, but can also go over the top with with the arm talent as well.

14:40So there it's just it's such a good mixed bag that sometimes when you get these coaches who won't say who the starter is on a certain day, because it's between a backup or whatever. Then then you might, you know, I'm trying to I'm trying to think this through then then it doesn't really matter because they're two of the same or two of cut from the same cloth, whereas it almost works in the bear's benefit because yeah, the jets do have to prepare for two completely different people. Yeah, here here's here's the only difference though. And this is less about football. This is more about like the politic of sports and you, as you mentioned, Tyson, Bage and earning the job out of training camp and being the number two. Let's get this comment in here right now from Christian. Christian says that Tyson struggles. You could always bring in case followed up by

15:42Re-se, Re-sev saying, Bage and already got a bag and secured some wealth. So I don't feel bad for him if Keen and plays. The only thing that I was kind of working through mentally with the gymnastic of last week of this is just true. It's easier to start case. And if he struggles, you can bring in Tyson. It has more of a reverberation or a big picture issue if Tyson plays and Tyson struggles and case then has to replace him. I understand that Tyson Bage and just got the bag. I get it. But for his career for the big picture, I think if Tyson Bage starts this game, I will go out on a limb and say, even if he throws like three or four picks, he would have to, I don't know what he would have to do. The CK's Keen, I'm coming to this game, barring some kind of injury or some sort of, some sort of hit. Now Tyson is obviously recovering from my concussion. You got to be really, really careful with that.

16:44And if he gets hard again, he's going into that blue tent really quickly. So case needs to be ready. But do you understand I'm saying Patrick that like, absolutely. If you pull, if you pull, agree with that. You pull Tyson for case. That has a bigger picture issue with Tyson in his career, his place in the Bears. Frankly, his place in the NFL, then it would have case struggled and then you bring in Tyson. So the fact that they're going with Tyson right now, I get it. But obviously that also shows a lot more confidence in the kid to play well too as well. Because I just think he can't just yank him out like that. I just don't think they can do that. I don't think that that's Ben Johnson either to just pull the trigger on a quick switch like that. The only, like I'm not saying game planned for like a certain set where it's like, hey, we're going to, we're going to screw everybody up and just throw a case out there for a series. See how I really want him to identify the Mike. I want to identify the Mike really loudly. Let's get case out there. Right.

17:45We look good. We look good and then he runs off the field. Yes, quick aside, shout out in the chat. Coulan and Ty, Ty, maybe one of the biggest CACO diehards in the world met him at an event at Joe's on weed a couple of years ago. One of the best. Nice. Love to stay in touch. So shout out to the fellas. Anyway, with the, you're so spot on about the whole Tyson thing in terms of you can't pull this string now and pull it's like pulling like a ripcord. Or like, you know, right, it just once you do it, it's done kind of a thing. Like if you pull Tyson, if you were to pull Tyson for some reason on Sunday and replace him with case, then it's just a matter of like, well, that feels final kind of a thing. So I don't know. I don't see that happening anyway, but we can get into it a little bit more.

18:46Yeah, 100%. And by the way, the chat's just absolutely just crushing it so far. Great A block chat. Really good job. Put the both out there and really screw with Glenn. Vic has too hard to decide. Let them both out there at the exact same time. Let's see. Course. Right. Cause Tyson can't identify the Michael. And of course, you don't trust Ben's decision to make it. That's how we're saying it all. We're all working a joke. It was clearly a joke. He was verbally loud on the field. I he was identifying the mic to me. Christian. That's how I knew. So if he could come out and just help me, it's like subtitles with football. And then he can run off the field and then Tyson can come on. We're having some fun here. Okay. Let's take our break. Yeah. Let's take our big break. Our big delicious break here. When we come back, we are going to dive into our Jets preview. We've got X factors. We got predictions. We got how it takes. We got a little more Ben Johnson sound too as well. But let's just take two minutes and remember here on C. Show Bears after dark on Fridays. As of right now, it's only one break, baby.

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25:58All right let's go back on track. Give me this. Before we move on really quick you got some really cool sound also from Ben Johnson today talking about the team in general. How would you like to tee that up? Maybe we can use that as a jumping point off for our next little pivot point in the conversation here. Yeah so let's think. Oh this was about the I think it was Herb Howard's question in which he asked about or he started to ask about the selflessness that you find on this roster and Ben kind of touches on every single point. But it does loop into the quarterback conversation and that everybody's going to support just about everybody on this team because the end goal is winning football games and winning football games when they matter most in playoffs and even further than that. So if you want to hit play on that. It's real unique as what it is. Like this isn't the unselfishness that these guys have. I was just talking with Colt

27:01Comet about that. Sorry to interrupt you but they were just talking about that yesterday with him. He's never experienced it to this degree at this level and I don't know that I have either. These guys I mean we had multiple players last week. I think HT talked about it. Volunteering to get on special team. You got a guy like Joe Tunis. I know put me on fuel goal block. You know I know it's a darn good unit against Philly that they have multiple blocks under their belt over the last year and a half. Get me out there. Let me help out. We have guys all over Ty Riek was itching to get out on Punt Return. Booker wanting to get out there on more special time. Everybody just wants to contribute. And so same thing with you know we talked about our past catchers and how I need to do a better job getting them the ball. Not one of them has a bad look in their eye when they come into the building or you can tell their palton or in their feelings. Like that doesn't exist and as a credit to them I think it's a credit to the coaching staff and certainly winning winning helps foster that nature also because at the end of the day that's

28:02their number one objective. Ryan's brought in the right type of guys in this building. Yeah I enjoy that comment for two reasons. One, for our first conversation today it is a subtle reminder and message to Kyler Gordon. I promise I'm going to stop. You know I'll start nobody I promise. But it's also what's interesting about it is it just also kind of fortifies and continues to further that as we go back and forth between case and Tyson and trying to win football games and then honestly probably starting next week we are going to start the timeline of when is Kayla back Caleb my oh Caleb is at practice oh we saw Caleb pregame that's going to get closer starting probably next week. And it is just kind of cool to hear that is permeating throughout the room because not to say that it ever would be an issue. But it is an additive right Patrick that if Tyson Beijing is going to be under center case kingdom who considers himself a player coach goes back to that second word the latter word

29:06goes back to coach a little bit right and hopefully tries to give him the answers to the test and I want to get your reaction to that as we dive into a jet's defense that frankly is off to a good start so far this year. Right and I think it kind of goes with the sound from I'm trying to think maybe last week that Ben said something along the lines of yeah what I mean when we when we brought in case a year and a half ago then the idea was for him to serve and case accepted case came out of retirement to do so and then I still had it in him to be able to you know get ready for a game day and show him how it's done kind of a thing and go out there on one day night and just run Ben's offense exactly how Ben has envisioned these things and then when we spoke to case on Thursday I think he said that you know there is a benefit to

30:10Caleb just being able to take a step back and say and kind of go through these quarterback meetings that he wasn't necessarily running or the primary guy for because he was out where he could say hey by the way when you see this look from Rome this is kind of what he wants to do and and and case said I was learning a lot from Caleb and how he sees things so it's just you're learning a lot from that room as a whole and how they get along and what they're I don't know learning from each other and it just really is elevating everybody in there it's not just a matter of like well case is making Caleb better it's hey Caleb is making case better too so that's why I like to quote that's why I thought that it really kind of tied into that quarter quarter back conversation too well and look I don't think Ben is going to be the type of guy that's going to kind of blow that smoke in a press conference like that so when he does bring that and he does

31:13trying to divulge that that's how he's feeling you want to believe that it's sincere and it's genuine and it's more of them more of him giving credit to what he's seeing more than trying to pump up the guys around them and for bears fans wondering like what does all this mean at least you could say to yourself that this isn't a disease a me situation the old Pat Riley saying of last year when a playoff game almost beat the Rams almost go all the way maybe come back next year looking to either whatever get paid puff your chest out what's my bigger role what's my bigger place in this game it just I'm happy to hear that when you hear stuff like that it falls under the line a little bit of unfinished business and that's what I like to hear we got a $20 super chat coming in right here and this is going to set up our next topic it's coming in $20 from brawl sack my man appreciate you on a Friday night hope you have a great weekend and hope it ends with the Chicago Bears win he says here's losing a fifth a plus 1500 15 to one parlay by four manunga yards on Monday keep grinding boys bears by 47 deeply appreciate the $20 even after you

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33:25little bit and this makes a lot of sense in year two when you have a defensive minded head coach Patrick like Aaron Glenn when you sit down around the table and they say what's it going to take to get to get to the point where we're competing for the playoffs Aaron what's Aaron Glenn going to say he's going to say give me some defense give me the defense so what did they do they trade it from mink of Fitzpatrick who's going to be healthy he's going to play this week Devandre sweat defensive tackle in a trade he's off to a really good start then they got a depth guy like Joseph a sigh Mario Davis has been definitely a plus for them in the linebacker core they went out and got on Yamada David on Yamada they signed of course nation right we all know him from the Chicago Bears last year but again he hasn't played a lot can't crack the starting lineup and then David Bailey from what I can kind of read and gather two really good games one not so great game for the rookie but that dude was taking second overall so let's just start here those defensive additions how do you how do you interpret that in terms of some of the numbers that you see with this Jets defense and what they're actually really trying to do as an organization right now well it's a lot to get

34:29an interception which the defense in the Aaron Glenn defense hasn't done since week 18 of 2024 they're working at it they're working at it right so Nishon right you go out and get Nishon right and Nishon right is the definition of a ball hawker that that's what he was doing in Chicago that's what made him so valuable to that defense last year he also gave up quite a few receptions and quite a bit of yards as well but the the L Harris defense was we're going to take the ball so then New York goes out they get Nishon right and the idea is hey maybe we can bring some of that flyer our defense to just hasn't happened yet they still have not forced an interception now they're going to be facing a backup quarterback this week so those odds are probably a little bit higher than they would be otherwise but it's it's all it's it's looked a bit better for the Jets so far this year I mean they kept the Packers in check they for the most part I mean they blew it late and

35:37then with the Lions it just that's a high powered offense that they're going up against and and Jerrogoff kind of think and dunk them to death before it just kind of got out of hand so it's it's a tough look and a lot for an interception yeah I this is what's fun about this week specifically and this is honestly another reason and isn't just the backup quarterback in the Bears I struggled a little bit with game score on this because week four can kind of be strange right like if you if you love part in the interruption right they're always going to do a segment on the three and O teams like who's real who's not right and when you're sitting there sometimes at two and one and and last year you were a terrible team your fan base one and two no and I'm just saying and sometimes you're sitting there too on and you're feeling really good in the Jets case you're sitting there one and two but you are seeing progress right now like how much do you take out of

36:40the Titans game I don't know if I can take a lot out of that Titans game we're starting to learn more and hopefully maybe as we check the the expert the best used by date on the green bay packers maybe they have an expiration date on there maybe you know maybe that's turning a little sour so who is this Jets defense right now that's the question opponents yards per game so far through three games 258.3 second best opponent passing yards 171 third best opponents yards per play 4.8 fourth best in the NFL opponents third down conversion rate 32.36 fifth best in the NFL opponents rushing yards per game 87.3 I think we lost Joey there for a second unbelievable hello can you do you have me yes you you finished the graphic and then disappeared I'm just perfect anyways that was a match breakdown sign up 50% pro probably with every single game

37:45and use code CHGO when you sign up I'm having a hell of an internet day my my point is just with this graphic here it's just like is that team who is that defense they added a lot to it everything's going really good right now if you looked at again really quick the rushing yards per game at 87.3 but also if you look it up right now they're also like bottom in the NFL in terms of opponents rushing attempts so it's not like they're really stuffing the run right now it's just that teams are opting as you saw last week in the second half of the Detroit Lions they just decided to throw the ball so I think this is one of those interesting Donnie Brasco weeks you ever seen the movie Donnie Brasco of like this is a food gazing and you take one look at it or not like is the Jets defense for real or is it not and I get it we have a backup quarterback but I think we're going to learn a little something about maybe they're not as good as everyone thinks that this defense is through the first three weeks of the season right and one of the points that I tried to make in my prediction this

38:47week and I honestly was wrestling with how to word it so I don't even know if I included it was a lot of how you think this week will go depends on how you view the Lions right now and how you view the Packers I think everyone's kind of on the same page with the Titans and that's why the Jets won that game but the Packers we talked about it last week because they had already played they're not really the most impressive look in team right now and their offensive line is a disaster and they're adding guys left and right veterans who have been on the street for the first three weeks of the year just to stop the bleeding in some sort of fashion so on top of that the Lions what do you think about the Lions I mean they they looked a lot better than half but right but the Lions the Lions the Lions are the same and honestly they are a they are like a high caloric

39:51trans fat cautionary tale for the Chicago Bears as in the Detroit Lions was it two or three years ago when they got to the N.F.C. Championship game that team was ready to win that year and then their coach cried and say we may never get back all that other kinds of stuff and specifically since they lost Ben Johnson yeah there's still scoring points but it's in this like crazy like it's like eating a big Mac like it's it's giving you some version of sustenance or some sort of flavor or taste right now I just don't believe that it's really taking you anywhere can the Detroit Lions beat the Chicago Bears when they play them of course they can but over the law like the long course of a season I simply don't buy it now here's what I will buy is has the Detroit Lions offense in the second half of last week's game maybe starting to bring this Jets defense back to the middle of the pack a little bit after a really good performance performance against the Titans versus maybe a bad green Bay Packers team because last year when you look at it the Jets

40:55gave up 35 touchdowns as you mentioned zero interceptions they allowed quarterbacks now this is a fantasy football thing they allowed opposing quarterbacks to score 20 plus fantasy points against them every single week on average good lord that's dynamite and then also they allowed the most fantasy points to running backs last year 17 rushing touchdowns 11 receiving touchdowns to running backs the 16th most of wide receivers and the seventh most of Titans they allowed double digit Titans double the touchdowns the Titans last year which was tied for fourth most in the NFL so I understand that they brought in some new guys but again I don't see any of those new guys in the secondary I'm reading some dudes that are up front so I'm not really seeing like are there cornerbacks any better like can you expose them with tight end off linebacker I know it's tomorrow Davis like I see a lot of different opportunities here right I just want to make a comparison

41:56and touch on something as you know considering that you're a baseball fellow the Lions kind of remind me of the Philadelphia Phillies interest terms of where they're at right now and and their most recent success where it was very well lots of splash lots of power and then just kind of feels like it's fizzling out at this point year by year where it's like oh well I think they're still pretty good but who knows anyway back to the jets right like Minkofits Patrick what are we expecting from Minkofits Patrick in 2026 Nishon Wright had an awesome year last year in terms of taking the ball away and it's going it's going to be really it's always really tough to face a I believe he was the tallest cornerback in the NFL last year if I if I'm correct I think he's 6'4 and whatever fraction after that but tall guy like I'd like this he's that tall right yes this

42:58is yes bingo but that I think in my own head it's just kind of like a I shoot I'm trying to like think of like a bears example where the bears added a bunch of guys where you're like hey they're they're adding you know pernell McFeed they're adding well more Houston the John the John Fox the John Fox flip over of they you know they split a decent amount of money on some guys and and yes it can work I'm just asking and we're talking about here in the chat where you know Matt Naggy is rightfully saying it's not last year my guy I completely agree with you but I'm also trying to say that like this defense was atrocious last year and they spent a lot of money on some additions and Aaron Glenn is a very bright defensive mind I'm just asking is it maybe a little bit more in that middle gray area where the Chicago Bears and Penn Johnson are going to find a bunch of weak spots especially probably in the secondary

44:01with their cornerbacks and we're still going to be able to have a really productive offensive day despite these jets this jet defense coming in with some pretty good numbers in terms of the first three weeks of the season yeah I don't disagree with that I think that that's probably a smart way to look at it especially considering that I feel less confident in any prediction that I'm making right now considering the fact that I think I had the Eagles 27 Bears 13 last last week and that was completely flipped up on its head so like I think that yes I think that Ben Johnson can probably exploit any weakness in any defense at this point and then in the back of my head it rattles around that well Aaron Glenn knows Ben Johnson pretty well so who knows that you know they've spent a lot of time practicing against each other in Detroit so we'll kind of see what happens but there's there's not enough success for Aaron Glenn in New York to say that that will be the case

45:04at all yeah and that's I mean I just think that this matchup is more fascinating than I thought it was going to be I I just do and the back of quarterback thing there's an element to that for sure but I I have confidence in this Bears team I just think that it's going to be a lot harder than people think now let's go to the other side of the ball with the judges for the quickly before we start getting to our X factors and our predictions here on CHO Bears after dark by the way we've got 140 people watching the chat right now if you get the opportunity hit the like button totally free if you are new to the show welcome we got shows all the damn time here with CHO Bears it's going to start first with pregame this Sunday at about 11 o'clock in the morning bears are going to rock and roll hopefully win and they're going to have post game and then they're going to have the brick by brick after show with Lance Briggs Jerry Azuma and then obviously we're going to roll right into after dark Monday night but see his show bears every single day Monday through Thursday all that good stuff so hit the subscribe button it's free hit the like button as well the other part about this is against the grain of past statistics because yes the season is still early geno smith is off to a

46:12great start this season geno smith a guy who a guy who let me just get this right has thrown 32 interceptions the last two years has not thrown an interception yet and I'm going to tee you up with this one and this was from Eric Allen the Jets senior reporter this season and I'm kind of really drilling in on this particular matchup if you will or at least look defensively in the jets offensively Eric Allen wrote not only has smith been accurate and decisive but he's also been cold blooded in the pocket against single high coverage smith has registered the second most yards per attempt 10.3 highest completion percentage 88.9 and seventh highest explosive rate 20.4% according to next gen stats under DC Dennis Allen the bear defense has lined up in single high coverage 60.2% of opposing dropbacks the eighth highest rate in the NFL and are allowing 20.3% 3.0.0.0.0.0.0 which is 11th highest in the NFL it's early Patrick but that sounds a little bit

47:14like strength on strength in terms of how the two units are going right now Dennis Allen likes to use single high coverage and geno smith so far is executing and excelling when he sees single high coverage it's just going to be an interesting thing to see how it plays out I certainly trust Dennis Allen's track record in calling defenses over a three game span from geno smith in how he's looked this year say what you want but it just it feels like the the bear's defense with Al Harris and Dennis Allen and you know it I'm thinking back to being in the locker room on Monday night and and Dylan Fieneman and Xavier Woods which is so both pro the message from from Al Harris is just get the ball just get the ball like that's that's the name of the game and it's it's such a funny thing to be scrolling Twitter and and be you know controlling the bear the CHEO bears Twitter during a game and seeing people online saying things like well at some point

48:19they're going to have to stop relying on these turnovers because turnovers aren't sustainable you're right turnovers aren't like a sustainable statistic that you can just keep looking at and saying like well they're guaranteed to get one down here but you can be good at it right you'd be good at it yeah right it's not it's not always just luck of the draw it's not always just well we we took advantage of geno smith throwing three picks last year with with the raiders or anything like that sometimes you're just pretty darn good at being where the ball is going and that's what what it feels like the bears defense is doing like they're rallying to the ball it's a very it's a very lovysmith idea where it just any ball that was on the ground and a fender was going to pick it up and and and then that didn't happen in a certain bears packers game in which Mark Tressman was the head coach of shortly thereafter and then it came back to really bite the bears and all things like that but they like they they rally to the ball they they put several hats around

49:23it as they like to say where it's Austin Booker getting the punch out on the Eagle second drive last week on the second play of their second drive and moments like that where you just look and say this is not luck this is not you know chance that that that the bears are forcing three turnovers in what feels like every game at this point I think they're averaging two right now because they didn't have a single one against the Minnesota Vikings but that was one of the things that I pointed out in my in my prediction this week and that is that uh Dennis Allen or under under Dennis Allen the bears are oh and three when the defense does not force a single takeaway uh in in in a game and it's so it's only happened three times and they're all in three in it they they they live and die with it but it's working too yeah I mean well I think the easy part is it's early enough in the season just we could just use our eyes right like Devon Boast drops an interception right in the

50:27bread basket doesn't get it right uh Dylan Theaneman I'm gonna chuck that one up to Andy Dalton I'm gonna give that one to Andy on that one even though congratulations Ricky got your first I&C but the TJ Edwards play is a defensive play like these that that's not a tip ball that just somehow pops up in the air and then like like feather like falls into the lap of a defensive player and the fumbles that they've been causing those are defensive plays like that isn't a guy screwing up those are punch outs those are things that you do to try and affect the game and make it happen and I know that Juno Smith is seemingly off to a good start with the single high coverage but on the other side of it when we talk about turnovers when we talk about the Jets maybe being a little one-dimensional this is the biggest key for me personally from the Bears defensively is if you look at their the running game so far for the New York Jets uh rushing attempts for game 28.3 10th in the NFL so they're trying to run the ball but Rush Yards for

51:30game 92.3 27th bottom of the NFL EPA per rush minus 0.24 29th in the NFL Yards per rush 3.3 30th in the NFL and Breeze Hall is not playing on Sunday. Right I mean Braille and Ellen's a different player and I love Braille and Ellen I covered him at Wisconsin he can be a bit of a bruiser but he's not a guy that's gonna that's gonna gash you right if you're if you're gap discipline sound in the linebackers have a good game they might not have a running outfit and if that's the case then Juno has to be back there and throwing now you can really start to kind of like lean in on opportunities to fine turnovers and get the ball back to your offense. He's not Breeze Hall. I think it's the easiest way to put a no right that that's also kind of a good segue too into the Jets injury report for the week and it's extensive to to what they're trying to do offensively too and you already mentioned Breeze Hall out this week 80 Mitchell is out this week Dylan

52:31Parham is out Mason Taylor and then he's going to pl- or he's questionable the the expectation is that'll play but but Kenyon Sedeek being on the injury report is a big deal the the rookie tight end from Oregon is quite possibly their best offensive game changer I would say like like he almost gives you kind of a colston loved one guy based on that one catch that he had last week in the end zone against the Lions it just was like one of those things where it's like dang I feel like we saw this last year from colston like that that's a really impressive play um although if you really want to get into the nitty gritty do you think that they they called Kenyon Sedeek a a matchup nightmare and the reason for that is because he is 6 3 240 he's a he's a big guy you know good size to him not not the tallest tight end um

53:32you think you think Dylan Thedeman is is pretty familiar with with Kenyon Sedeek what do you think there yeah I I'm intrigued to watch that now when we say that I don't think it's going to be Dylan Thedeman lining up at the line of scrimmage right no we but we have to be very clear I'm just trying to be clear with everybody here I'm not saying that it's going to be Dylan Thedeman post-nap guarding him from the jump but if you're talking about over the top help or if you want to say yeah like on this particular look with Kenyon Sedeek I mean they got Garrett Wilson too as well he's really good so I don't know what they're going to do bracketing wise but in terms of Dylan Thedeman flying to the ball and cleaning up with Kenyon Sedeek I I like that matchup a lot and I've got to be real with you we did the show what was it a couple weeks ago and I'm going to stand firm on just the general principle of the draft process of selecting a safety in the first round and also

54:33doing that in contrast to the needs that this Bears team had but I gotta tell you man Greg Bragg's junior might be on to something Dylan Thedeman's looked great a whole lot just just one second here you go I'm sorry I'm sorry head scout Greg Bragg's junior might be on right yeah I just would also like to point out that there is one person who predicted that the Bears would take Dylan Thedeman on the Chicago Bears cumulative website post earlier this year that might have been me and also Thedeman was also the the focus of the sidebar that I wrote after my Monday night game and I kind of knew early on that would probably be my focus and then the interception really sealed it he's just one he's just one hack of a player to watch down to down the the three-play sequence and I think there was actually a video that was kind of going viral that that included it but it

55:33led up to the interception and the interception doesn't happen if he can't prevent Seikwan Barclay from getting into the end zone three plays before and then he stuffed some at the line with the help of Dio Dengbo I think a play later yeah play later then Devon Bush makes a nice you know stand-up tackle right at the goal line again um Dylan Thedeman on a play-to-play basis and I'm up in the press box we've got a great view that you know you're not going to see him on screen for every single play from the TV feed from my view it's easy to just see him and it just reminds you of the fact that I think it was Dennis Allen maybe could have been Ben who called who called Dylan an eraser and that feels like a somewhat popular term for defensive guys to be called I think Kyla Gordon's been referred to as an eraser in the past where they just erased the mistakes on on a play-to-play basis that you that to to an extent where you don't even see them like you

56:34don't you don't notice them you'll notice them uh or coaches will notice them and tape the next day but Dylan Thedeman just covers up a lot of a lot of things or an eraser covers up a lot of things Dylan Thedeman is that guy for the Bears and I think if you're looking at a matchup right now and it's you know Kenyans Sidiq who right now looks awesome for the Jets don't get me wrong feel like Dylan Thedeman could be like the perfect matchup against him so I don't know that's just one that I'm looking forward to again on on Sunday they practice against each other a ton at Oregon and and yeah man I've just been so impressed with he's just uh he's a sure tackler I just love his fundamentals when it comes to tackling and I and I can't emphasize this enough and I think the coaching staff is probably feeling this is that there has been at least a half dozen or a handful of tackles that Dylan Thedeman has made that on previous bad defenses

57:36um the opposing player would probably get two or three extra yards that completely changes down in distance it changes the game call and if you start to add that up a little bit you know Dylan Thedeman starting to kind of like erase 10 to 16 yards from a game just based on his speed and getting to the spot and being the type of tackler that he is right now and on the top of that too the dude is also making plays like those are things that everyone can see but even when he does get involved it's that little stuff that like that turns a third and two into a third and six or you know what I mean a second and one into a second and five second and six like that stuff is really important when you don't have a great defensive front I've just been incredibly impressed with him so far um ladies and gentlemen hi to kids hi to wife we are going to go to overtime here because we're gonna start we're gonna start doing x factors and predictions here uh we're gonna talk about the Chicago Bears and the Jets in week four

58:36who's gonna win and if it's gonna be the Bears how are we gonna do it I'm gonna throw it to you first uh you got a hot take prediction or do you want to do it x factor first I'm gonna give you the uh give you the choice there uh I will I'll give you my prediction first I think that's probably the best place to start uh and and mine is a tighter game than I think of what on in in this show uh but I just really kind of don't know how to feel about the Jets because I don't know how to feel about the Packers and the Lions and and that was something that I conveyed earlier and uh so I have the Bears winning this game in fact I believe uh well I won't spoil anything else but I have the Bears winning this game 25 to 24 uh and I mentioned on all csco.com that yeah the the Bears are oh and 300 Ben Johnson and Dennis Allen when the defense for uh fails to force it take away uh but I just keep coming back to the idea that's Gino Smith we've seen enough uh or we've

59:38seen him play in a football to know that at some point on Sunday it feels like he's just good for a couple two tree interception worthy balls 25 are you suggesting it's a touchdown and six field goals okay so the score is a little bit of a throwback to the score the last time that the Bears played Gino Smith if anyone caught on to that I was gonna say six six three that was the Raiders game the Raiders game last year um ideally they don't need a Josh Blackwell field goal block at the end of the game I it just feels like the Jets could hang around yeah it's probably gonna be like if I if I really sat down and and crunch the numbers kind of a thing maybe it's a little bit more separation than just one point um but it's it I wanted my score to convey the idea that I think the Jets can just kind of be around and and nag at what's

1:00:42going on uh for the Bears on Sunday no I I think this is going to be a competitive game I also have the Bears winning I also walked out a last week with maybe a interesting Ben Johnson rule to think about Ben Johnson hates the number 10 think about it Ben Johnson hates the number 10 as in team scores touchdown and they get to seven he does not like the game score or the game math of going to 10 now eventually he did do it but at first he resisted it and went for went for it on fourth down because he wanted to get game score to 14 and I also think I don't think he likes getting game score to three so I think early on when he's trying to get his hits and trying to get his shots I think he's thinking of touchdowns I'm just throwing that out there I don't think Ben Johnson likes the number 10 just saying it also kind of screws up like the two point conversions like later on

1:01:47like if you start getting into it it starts like kind of like really messing around with that a little bit I think I went what did I go with I think I went with 23 to 21 I think the Bears are going to win I believe in that case then two touchdowns three field goals but I'm with you I think this one is going to be really hard fought and I do think the Bears are a better team than the Jets but backup quarterback I think Geno has the opportunity to make enough plays to make this interesting we haven't really brought up his name a lot but Garrett Wilson does scare me because what the Bears are probably going to do is they're probably going to put Jalen Johnson on Garrett Wilson because they don't want to put the rookie Malik Muhammad on there it might not either way it might not be a great situation because Jalen Johnson so far has been getting absolutely cooked and Garrett Wilson isn't incredibly talented wide receiver so I think this is going to be a little bit closer then we want it to be so that's why I'm going there with the game score I do believe that the Bears

1:02:50are going to win they are at home I do think 23 my opinion is almost maybe on the conservative side when you put the Ben Johnson scale into it but I just want to kind of see a little bit from Tyson when we go back to the backup quarterback manifesto that we did last week right it resets the clock which was why I was kind of like starting case in this game what did we say last week four to six quarters is right about that sweet spot right your backup quarterback right and he played four really good ones so maybe he had one more really good half in him if you believe in the manifesto that mean Tyson has an opportunity to put together four good quarters but it's going to on my opinion come together in a little bit of a different way and here's some of the ones that we had already the biggest ones for me is QB manifesto from last week is the phrase whatever it takes legs wild plays wing in a prayer whatever it is I think that's right up Tyson Bage and Alan and the most important one for me personally is going to be either some kind of big play that they can

1:03:54cook up that flips the field for them offensively or it's going to come down to how efficient and sharp he is in the red zone and and because they're going to try and pound the ball they're going to try and get it in but then eventually it is going to be second down or third down Tyson's going to have to make a throw and it's going to be a really tight window and it's going to be on him to make that play my X factor in this game and what do you think about this is I need to see something from Roma Dunes I know everyone's thinking Colston Loveland it's time it's time where is Colston Loveland why don't they give him the ball he's so dynamic he dominated training camp what is going on here kind of getting frustrated with Roma Dunes a Patrick last week was a obvious example of why I am frustrated with Roma Dunes a but again when Tyson came into the game what did he do he trusted his receiver with one of those go up and get him balls and if that's something that Tyson likes to do or if that's a look that Tyson trusts in and he

1:04:57can throw it that's where Roma Dunes a comes into play I don't know if Luther Burton's going up there and winning a 50-50 ball as well as Roma Dunes a can he's got to go up there he's got to do it I think Roma Dunes is one of my huge X factors right right I mean Roma's one of those guys who I feel like is almost as a better chance at a 50-50 ball than a 100 zero ball right now and true I feel like that got lost on the shuffle on Monday night too was after that drop he also had a couple of really nice catches which just makes it almost more frustrating though just in terms of dude hang on to the ball that one in your right hands and then and then he comes down with it but he's out of bounds already so I don't know that that was kind of one of those weird moments where you shake your head what else can you do for an X factor did you have to throw it into overtime yeah well before your X actor looks for this and overtime really quick

1:06:04she'll bear it's after dark on Friday yeah please see it up what's your X factor in this game give me a player well first off let me just point out to to Matt and Aggie in the chat yes I absolutely could have caught that ball I mean these are these are myths right here this is what I was born to do anyway my X factor fourth in this game and you brought him up is Jalen Johnson Jalen Johnson I feel like we're due for a Jalen Johnson vintage moment and we kind of saw a glimpse of that in the second half on Monday night and it almost felt like a little bit of a turning point for him in the early going of the season and that was when he read the coverage I think MacKyle Eman was the one going in motion and he just he just read the play beautifully made the tackle for loss and it was a it was a critical play for the Bears defense at that point in the game because if I'm remembering correctly that might have been the first drive of the second half maybe the second drive of the second half but regardless the

1:07:06people forget the the Eagles had a chance to double up by scoring with one second or with no time left on the clock in the first half and then getting the ball to begin the second half and they would have had a they they had an opportunity to not just double up but to take the lead and then Jalen Johnson and the Bears defense forced a I think a three and out to start and then maybe a second three and out right after that and it just was all right they're coming together they're they're really tightening the tightening the screws on this one right now so it just kind of felt like hey you know something to build off of going into week four Jalen Johnson makes a nice play just kind of gets out of his own head if that was possibly an issue for him and and you know what better what better week to do that than this week when you're playing a short hand definitely often look can definitely be a confidence booster I mean that matchups kind of lining up the way that I think that there is a possibility that and another X factor if you will is the Jets run offense

1:08:13should struggle in this game and if that's the case then Jalen Johnson is going to get a lot of reps and a lot of targets because Garrett Wilson is probably going to be lining up opposite him and if he can play a good game and get some of that confidence back you know get a couple stuffs you know maybe that can start turning in the right direction a little bit we do have a $10 super check coming in from my new guy that I hugged and met at last weeks the CHJ O'Barr's tailgate hey Jalen was great meeting you last week and hang out at the CHJ O'Gang Patrick I didn't get a chance to meet you but I guess I'll see you boys come December in the sunshine state go bears I don't know if I'm making that trip I don't know if I am either what no that's where this is where me and you we we we so away in one of carms many suitcases because you know car bring go bring men out their road trips yeah it's many ensembles many choices many outfit changes we just kind of like me and you we just kind of get in

1:09:16there like two peas in a pod and we get down there and then we can see our guy Arley that would be ideal dude man thank you so much for the super chat we are so excited to be down there too as well that's gonna be an absolutely great event um CHJ O'Barr's last year went to London this year obviously going out of Miami obviously going up for green bay too as well um it's super it's super exciting anything else you got left I got left on the table anything we're not doggie bagging any ideas here we're we're eating it all at the plate here because Roma doons a is a big one for me I think I think play action is gonna be a huge one for me with Tyson and and I'll also do this this is an old school cliche one and I didn't feel this way with case but I feel this way with Tyson I feel like that the first 15 is gonna matter doesn't always matter like you know and I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm not trying to compare the players or whatever it's just different players at different trajectories in their career but Justin really needed the first 15 Mitch really needed the first

1:10:2215 to try and somehow get off to a good start that was a big component and and thing with it good okay my wife is just staring at me right now I don't know why but but with title with case I was like oh well case could either get into a rhythm put together some good drive put together some scoring stuff let's see what happens whatever I think with Tyson getting off to a good start is gonna be important am I wrong and my overselling that is that something or nothing I think it would be important for the Bears to have a shot at a blowout and I I mean obviously oh scoring early enough it is important for a blowout but I think getting off to like the right track is important for them to if you want them to put up 30 points or if you think that they can um but I also would I wouldn't necessarily put a ton of stock into the idea that um like if Tyson if Tyson throws the first interception for the Jets defense in in 20 games then you know oh ball games over now I think that the I think that the I think that there's plenty

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1:13:34a lot of times when people are like oh well they were on the same team they they're at practices that often versus that defense going back and forth they should know each other move know each other's moves like the back of their hand i think that that is decided advantage to ben johnson on this one right i do too when you talk about multiple formation when you talk about now that they've been probably twelve to sixteen months removed from each other and Ben is in this system i think Ben's going to know how to call stuff that's going to be able to probably keep Aaron Glenn on his heels more than Aaron Glenn is going to call stuff that's going to make Ben johnson scratches head that's my maybe my final one there and that's all you need to know about how i feel about how this game is going to go yeah i wish i wish i had a tidbit like last week um still kind of pat myself on the back on that one with the but talking to luke numen about case keynems cadences and those very good things like that and then it showed up

1:14:36oh it showed up didn't it oh it it absolutely did add it to the man we remember we added it to the manifesto hard count back up quarterback hard count every time and then as soon as i walked into the locker room on thursday luke numen's lockers like right inside into the left i just see him we look at each other and just kind of give each other a smile or fist bump of just like hey you call it good good good one on that yeah uh yeah that that was that was that was it that was a treat yeah super final one then we'll go out here i promise i promise i promise i promise i promise uh i know you're a reporter but i want you to speculate for me is next week the week when we start maybe talking about Caleb returning to practice or do you believe maybe the following week or maybe we get some good news later in the week next week about him returning when do we start when does Caleb start re-entering the chat maybe with where we think or maybe hope that he is injury-wise

1:15:43i i think next week's probably when we start to see his name on the inter-report maybe is limited to start yeah not saying he's playing but but his name re-enters the yeah right because for let me give you a couple of different reasons here one they didn't put him on injured reserve so when they had the chance so the idea is then while he's probably back within four games so that puts him back before if they had placed him on injured reserve following the injury he would have been out until after the felcans game i believe so that would have included next weeks game against the packers and then the the felcans game after that one but also think about it this way even if he's limited and probably not going to play or if that's how you want to look at it for for week five it's another wrinkle for Ben Johnson to then play coy and say well who knows he might play yeah the packers might play Tyson Beijing they might play Miller Moss they might play K-Skinham they might play Caleb Williams and also how unbelievable is it the fact that and Ben

1:16:49pointed this out on Monday night too in a clip that kind of went viral too where it was he brought up the whole the the storyline or talking point from the week past that had been well Ben Johnson's never had to call plays and a regular season game for a quarterback who wasn't drafted number one overall i mentioned that i mentioned that last week and not saying it in a derogatory way i'm just saying that like we get an opportunity we get a rare opportunity that a lot of other NFL teams are forced into with new NFL coach offensive guru with inextric experience or or maybe not top notch quarterback how do they do it was fun to watch and i yeah but i mean yeah i'm sorry but yeah i said that last week like i'm a part of that crowd that was like you absolutely did and and well and now look at it K-Skinham undrafted guy let's say the Tyson Beijing is does have his number called on Sunday undrafted guy like it just the the disparity is

1:17:51very funny from fair goff number one pick in i think 2016 Caleb number one pick in 2023 and then also an undrafted guy from 1938 and an undrafted guy from you know of same year's Caleb 2023 or no 2022 excuse me but just it makes for a very fun talking point and conversation all he has to do he's won a game with Caleb and golf he's won a game with case you wins a game this weekend with Tyson if he wins a game with Kyle Orton then we can officially say he can win with all types the top the bottom and in the middle because i'm not pick third-round pick third-round pick or third i can look that up i can look that up i'll i'd also be happy to share that i had a Kyle Orton jersey growing up

1:18:51hailey and then i would and then i would put a paper we'd put a paper and that was drawn in color pencil homey so it's in norton on the back real ones appreciate this while you look that up in 2009 or yes 2009 or was it wait when cutler come over nine yeah yeah i think so color came in oh nine anyways in 2008 Kyle Orton i would go down to quencher's in Lincoln Park and we would watch preseason games and Kyle Orton in 2008 absolutely shredded the postseason and not only that he also was by and large in bear standards at that time pretty damn good in 2008 like highly capable you were like man this guy's got some rim real gym miller to him and this is obviously on the grading scale of bears quarterbacks at the time

1:19:53they had an opportunity you win in Atlanta go to the playoffs he didn't play very well but whatever but when people want to give Kyle Orton a hard time there were we talked ourselves into Kyle so hard and after the flameout that was Rex at least orton was like that that medium ham sandwich that you were like dammit i'm so hungry but at least i'm at least i'm eating ham like that's all I really want was a second or third around fourth oh perfect he's the middle doesn't the middle guy all right yeah that's all that's left on the board uh quick shout out before we get out of here just please few names of people who have sent me pictures during the show of me on their television screen so shout out to Ty shout out to Cal who I mentioned earlier in the show Mike said Jack thanks for watching as well as Luke Johnson thanks for thanks for being friends and fans shout out to myself for just kicking myself out of the studio for a second and eliminating my audio

1:20:58for about twenty seven i felt bad i i didn't i i froze too because i just stopped speaking i was like oh gosh i think this is me oh i thought just next time just saying next time just start breaking out and singing right right right this is a good one orton was like eating ham we all know ham is not healthy i'm up at my desk right now i'm up at my desk right now uh which made me think i've got a handy car monica right here i actually have a second car monica right here i'm the one who keeps giving car monica's you're the one for that america wow that's not something you really want to say on air front of a microphone but hey we're at the end of the show and we look at YouTube average viewer rating we still got a hundred and eighteen in here thank you so much for joining uh we're going to get out here you guys so here's the deal thank you so much for tuning in to see chial bears after dark we got reporter Patrick norton he's going to be there on sunday providing amazing video amazing photos amazing information make sure you check out all of his writing and all

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