A Numbers Game | October 6, 2026 | Hour 1

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1:02Now, one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with Gill Alexander on Vison. Good Tuesday morning to you. This is a numbers game at Vison. These sports betting network, Vison.com Game plus I heart radio YouTube TV series, section channel 189. Gill Alexander. This man right here is Kelly Bill. Hey, Gill, how are we doing this morning? I'm doing very well. Beautiful Tuesday morning. We're here after a jam packed night of sports Monday night football baseball going on. And there's a I want to say there's a lot to unpack, but as you and I were texting last night, it was a bit of a dud when it came to these games. Overall, man, if there was no betting, yeah, that was that was a dud of a night. And from a betting standpoint, a complete dud for me, a saints that was disgusting. Good on Dr. Bob. And glad you brought everybody brought up a follow the doctor Bob. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up yesterday. Final score ends up being 45 24 Atlanta. Falcons never, never in doubt the right side. I guess we were as we like to say, not even close.

2:03Saints, pretty embarrassing performance, I would say. Lot of Tyler Schuck, 30 for 48, 286, one touchdown, no picks, no turnovers from him. Saints can't get anything on the ground. Atlanta continues to pile up massive numbers rushing. 18 for 148 for B. John, most of that in the first half for two touchdowns. Brian Robinson, Jr. Then 14 carries 62 yards, three touchdowns, total of 205 rushing yards or the Atlanta Falcons. They cover all numbers. The overgo hits, cash all those tickets. If you bet either side or total, we don't have to go through this whole game. Let's just go through the first half in the first drive. That's it. The competitive portion of this sounds good. Atlanta first drive three plays 80 yards, B. John in from 59. That's pretty good on the third play untouched seven nothing Falcons. Less than 90 seconds in. Next time they get the ball, they were set up their own 49 after a Zachariah branch 25 yard punt return, but couldn't do anything with it.

3:03New Orleans said no problem from their own 18. Actually, they're on 11 after a loss in a fall start. Second, 12 on 11, shook to Johnson for 23. They get to a Carlson 52 yard try wide left. Yeah. Yeah. And as you have talked about many times and we've talked about on this show, it is the, yeah, I know you don't love it as much. I'm okay with the try the long field goal. If you miss, man, you immediately set up your opponent. Well, people were upset that the Falcons didn't actually go for a field goal in the first drive that they went that they were going to add. They lined up for a fourth downplay. I totally forgot about that play. I'm not going to say it was mad about it, but it feels like it feels like in today's NFL, Gil, you kind of need to have a kicker that can stretch the field. You know what I mean? This is like not being able to keep up with the Steph Curry warriors. Like at some point the game is changing. You need to have a weapon like that. Uh, New Orleans next time they had the ball first play first, their own 20 Kendra Miller ball ripped out by CJ Henderson recovered by CJ Henderson. Joe Buck insists it's not a fumble.

4:03What was that? I almost texted you immediately where I was like, okay, this is once again the, uh, what do we call the review, the quick review, replay assist, replay assist. I clearly saw the ball get stripped before any body part, any part of the leg hit the ground. That's a fumble clear recovery and Joe Bucks going nuts about it the other way. It's very confused. Atlanta set up at the New Orleans 22 help by a defensive hold. They get to fourth and fourth. The New Orleans eight bailed out with a hold on McKinstree. Again, astute the field goal. Yeah. That was a little weird at that time. Worked out next play, B John in from four, 14 to nothing. Late stage of the first quarter. This was also guilt. This was the, uh, I didn't realize it flipping back and forth between baseball and football. Like Kyle Pits not playing like for most of the first half. That was odd. Very odd decision making there to play. That's all water under the bridge. But 14 to seven after the Saints have themselves drive. Shocked to a lobby for 44. The big play two plays later Camara in from three, 14 to seven.

5:03Opening seconds of the second quarter, but Atlanta, no problem. 10 play 65 yards. Took 558 off the clock. Seven rushes three passes on the drive. Brian Robinson in from four. His first of three scores. Schins great Brian Robinson. 21 to seven Atlanta. And then the next time they had the ball from their own 14 first play. Penix to London for 37 help set up folks. So go 24 seven Falcons at the half. And the only other thing you really need to know is that the first drive of the second half. Or excuse me, the, uh, yeah, the first drive of the second half Saints from their own 33 took half the third quarter. Settled for a Carlson 27 yard field goal. They cut it to 24 to the clock when you're down a lot. You know, and that was kind of it at that point. It was just that that point you, the TV was on in the background. It just kept trading touchdowns 31 10 31 17. Uh, 38 17 45 17 garbage touchdown 45 24. There's your final.

6:03You learn more about the Falcons or more about the Saints. That is a great question. I want to say the Falcons and that this is a, a, a, another week in a row, two weeks in a row. Now we're re are seeing this team with their quarterback as planned. And everything kind of moving in the right direction now. Um, but yeah, we'll see. I, as Saints. Saints negatives, man, for sure. There's some of that coming. I think you learned a little bit about both teams. I'm not going to say you learned a lot about either one. I think it's a little bit about both. So Optistats has done a great job of contextualizing most of these NFL games this year. This one, they might have gone a little too far on. Uh, but the Falcons are the only team in NFL history to have a two game span with 80 plus points. 800 plus total yards. Eight plus rushing touchdowns. That's the cap. That's the one that made it. That's pretty tough to do. This is the tweet creator. That one. Eight plus rushing touchdowns. No more than one turnover. No more than one sack left. So there you go. Um, Falcons look good, man. Yeah. Do we have the current NFC South numbers by the way?

7:04You know what? I do have them pulled up right in front of me because this is, it is completely flipped on its head. Right. Panthers are your favorite right now. Plus 160. As it should be. Falcons by great. Falcons plus 194. Saints plus 260 in the mighty Buccaneers all the way down to 11 to one. Though Aaron Schatz did put out a little DVO tweet this morning. For those Bucks fans out there who are looking for some silver lining in this. Oh, and four stars. Yeah. That's surprised. He has the, the Texans and the Buccaneers as his third and fourth. I'm laughing before I could say it because some people were listening. I like, uh, here we go. The DVO A context. The historical DVO A context. The Texans and the Bucks this year's. Oh and four Texans and Bucks are the third and fourth best. Oh and four teams since he's been tracking DVO A since the late 70. So, you know, for what it's worth. There you go. You're good Oh and four teams. I mean, I'm not, so I was not surprised at all to see the Houston Texans on this list. I was surprised to see the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and like just barely behind where the Texans are at by DVO A.

8:10He also included in that in that tweet. Apropos. I'm not sure what that the 2004 bills ended up as the best DVO A team to ever miss the playoffs. They wouldn't have made even with seven teams. They were the eight seed that year. Anyway, just some context. He's a week four numbers will come out. We'll have Aaron shots on the show next week. Uh, still to come on the show. A lot of baseball Joe. Sheen will join us. Uh, a little later on this hour. Talk Major League baseball with us. Mark Bort should a little later. Major League baseball. Drew Dinsick with his normal spot. Of course, Jake Han on hockey. Maybe I shouldn't say of course, but Jake Han on hockey. And what is, of course, our survivor segment of the week narrowing down the survivor choices for week number five in the national football league. And our power rankings are back on a Tuesday. It took me a while yesterday, actually. Oh, and you know what else we're going to do a little later. We're going to check on survivor sweat. Yeah, man. Look at a few of those entries. Yeah. Well, let's see where first of all before we look at a few of those entries. Let's see where hours rank. Because they actually power rank all of the remaining and 16 survivor entries went out with the Saints yesterday.

9:12That's right. But they were there. So there's just shy of 6000 entries left in survivor. And they go ahead at survivor sweat and rank all of them. We'll find out where we rank. Do that. We'll check out where some of the where they have that. They got really cool part of the website where it is just the power rankings for each entry. So as we'll see where we are. So even if the ones are at the top. In other words, even if you're not selling yours or offering to sell a portion of your entry on survivor sweat, you're still ranked in the in the massive pool of 5,972 entries that remain. By the way, actually retail value of each entry that remains. 4,189 dollars and five cents. You have quadrupled the value. I would have guessed that would have bumped up a little more. Okay. That's it. Because we only 320 entries got knocked out this week. Yeah. So that's that. We'll talk more baseball coming up with Joe Sheen and bar portrait. But see the Yankees last night at all. When you so when this Falcon Saints game was sort of piddling away into the ether. Like okay, Falcons are blowing them out.

10:14Congratulations to all the Falcons. Great call, Dr. Bob. Did you watch any of the Yankees? Oh, yeah, yeah. I watched more of the beginning of the game though. We had the first five bet that didn't work out too well. No, it did not. This was this was shades of two years ago. If you remember game five of the world series, the Yankees against the Dodgers Yankees were up five to nothing. I remember this because this was during my mom's Shiva. So we're all watching this game. Dodgers played it five runs. Remember in the in the fifth. I think they credited the Yankees with two errors in that frame. Really, it was three because remember it started with judge just dropping that ball in the outfield. But then they just stayed just through the ball around the in field. They booted to play all they booted one also. Anyway, Dodgers went on to win that game win the world series. Last night had those kinds of vibes first inning in this ballgame last night. Yeah, DDS first, you know, bottom of the first first batter. And it's booted. Ryan McMahon boots it a third base first first play of the game.

11:15First first that bat for the for the box. Two batters later runner two batters later runners at first and second. Looks like a tailor made double play. Maybe tailor made isn't exaggeration, but looks like it. And I don't even know if they're going to get the runner first. I shouldn't say that. Oh, I hard disagree here. I don't know why maybe they should. I don't know what jazz Shazam was thinking he was going to turn that. But but jazz chism on the turn just to just you can't allow the runner to score. Right. He just whips it to first. Josh Allen, Yolo off balance tries to turn this double play. When even if he was perfectly set would not have gotten the runner at first. Every Yankees fan screaming out their TV jazz. Yeah. Yeah. And then he got what yeah runner a runner who's round about to round third. And of course the ball is just sailing. Yeah. Yeah. Score is one and nothing one to nothing. Raise. Um, and then they had the next batter catcher interference. Now Schlittler was able to get out of that with only the one run of damage. In fact, Ben Rice tied up the game at one piece. But the bottom of the fifth is where it all went. Wrong for us.

12:15Schlittler gets tagged up another error in the middle of that allowed the final two runs to score. Um, that was a bad throw by Lumbard to first took our see off the bag. We should mention there was almost a fourth error in the first inning. If you remember the second out, jazz almost took Lumbard off of second base. One try and one try and for the put out there. Anyway, raise going to win it. Raise have a two to nothing leading the best of five. There are minus seven 50 series favorite now. We'll get to the White Sox Guardians of the rest of it next. Double header and baseball numbers game. Every game day you show up for your team. Now it's your time. We go. We go. We go. We go. We go. We go. Ask your prescriber about we gov some magnified injection 2.4 milligrams a G.O.P. One call 1 8 3 3 4 we gov or visit we gov.com to view the medication guide and to learn more about we gov.

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14:20guess not easy? moment. Jesse Welch on Twitter, shout out Dr. Bob on the Falcons. Appreciate you passing that along, Gilly. Hey, you're welcome, man. And, uh, you know, Bob couldn't make the show last week. So good that we hung out with Bob, Joe and I, Joe P. Did I on Saturday. So we got that. He went back to that Falcons well a few times that day. We keep coming up. He's like, ah, the Falcons. They're my favorite pick of the week. Man, good on him. Good on him. Good on call that. Uh, Vand Kino. I do a group of millions and survivor entry with a bunch of work buddies. We finished on the leaderboard T four of the first quarter booby. So we have decided to keep picking that, uh, the way we have been, but enter the inverse for the contest would have been second in the first quarter, 17 and three. Okay. So this is this, this has come up with Todd Wischneve also in the first quarter of millions. So I don't know what Vand Kino's first week was. Did he say no, he didn't, but Todd had a one in four of the first week in millions. And the question becomes, and we talked with Michael Manna, Sanna, who ended up winning the first annual, uh, circuit booby prize full

15:24year, $100,000. We talked about his strategy. I think his was after the first few weeks, he decided to just go for the booby. And Todd decided after the first week to do it. And now he's asking is like, did I make the right decision? And I think he probably did not because I think after one week, it's probably too soon. Yeah. Right. Because just what Vand Kino was talking about, he said he would have been, he would have been second in the first quarter. Had he just kept playing it the right way? He would have been 17 and three. Remember the thing with leaning into the booby is there are not as many payouts along the way because quarterlies on, you know, trying to actually win the millions go. I think five deep, if I'm not mistaken, I was just going to think you're right and the booby is just one. I think it's one. Yeah. I think there's only one quarterly booby prize. I believe either way, it's, it's much more for going for it. So you do in the decision-making of going for the season long, $100,000 booby prize being last in all of it in that decision

16:29to, hey, if I'm good enough to be bad at this, I could be just as good to be good at this. That's the, I was correct on it. Five and one, five and one, five spots for each quarterly millions prize, only one quarterly prize if you go in the other direction. So that is, that is what you sacrifice in that. And at the end of the year, I believe there's only top two for booby first and second, right? So even that, right? And whereas the real millions spends out for many, many spots. So you're really making, you really, you have to consider that when, when making the full decision to lean into the booby prize on circummillions, judo Connor, right handed picture at truest park on the road at night, he says back to the well with the braves, at least on the first five money lines tonight, only minus 120 baseball double header, nationally game threes with all the, the four division series as it turned out, Kelly, three of the four went two and oh, only one split the first two games. And that's the braves and the Dodgers, it's Yamamoto and sale, which interestingly, well, not interestingly, it has to do with geography.

17:33But if they had to pick more key matchups, maybe they always put the Dodger second, but that's the first game today, Yamamoto and sale back at truest rubber match, not rubber match, but the game three to try to break the one to one tie in that series. And then it is later on, it's the grooves and the Padres where the Padres are trying to stave off elimination with Nick Pavello on the hill. You'll see the series price, the adjusted series price on the braves Dodgers, the only one one series going Dodgers are still favorite minus 150 despite the fact that sale is on the hill for the braves today. But remember Yamamoto, of course, the hero of last year's postseason. Yeah, numbers for the game today coin flip, basically Dodgers and later minus 110, here at circa 10 cent straddle, just a minus 105 both sides, six and a half year total for that game. And then later on tonight, Padres minus 132 brewers plus 122 seven and a half total. Can I just do an a adjusted series price on the Padres at seven to one down two to nothing?

18:36No, no, no, I've got my Dodgers series one remaining. I will just be rooting that to the finish line. Chance copper pot. You could you could take Gil out of Washington DC, but you can't take the Washington football fanboy out of Gil anything that can be related to the taco holders. Gilly's going to pepper that into the ANG recap. We're all here for it. Let your burgundy and gold flag fly. Oh, because I said Brian Robinson skins great. I want to say I almost did it for him. I was thinking about it too. Oh, I do have a I do have a baseball not retraction amendment to make. Okay. Okay. Amendment on something Kelly's been better. How did you pronounce that word? Amendment. Amendment. Amendment. Yes. How about amendment? That's what I said. Amendment. Is this feels like amendment? Oh, amendment. It feels like you added a syllable in the middle. Amendment. Amendment. Okay. Good to you. Go ahead. All sports should be played inside. Yeah. We got a big roost bigger though. What the heck is going on in baseball? Bad. Parles and I immediately started sending texts after that because I'm not moving away from all

19:36sports should be played inside. Okay. We know this happens at Tampa, right? There's the there's the you know interior ring and then there's the outer ring. But if it happens in back to backer, I should say yes. Executive. Executive days of vaguely baseball. It feels like two two and three days. You you are feeling like are we playing all these games in high school? Jim. What are we doing? Exactly. Good. God. What was it? Uh, was it a league of their own? Remember a league of their own where they're trying out like the new girl. They're literally in a high school gym. She's just hitting it off the back of the wall. He's got no idea what I'm talking about. League of the wrong. You've seen that movie, right? No, I never saw it from beginning. Never did. No. Jared still you sir have an incredible memory. He's talking about the Yankees five to nothing lead over the Dodgers and the fifth inning back in in game five of the 2024 World Series. I think most people remember that. I mean that that game specifically is emblazoned in people's mind just because of that frame. Jason H 11, another postseason of Yankees baseball judge hurt bats go quiet and lack of defense led by chas. And he he oh, I see me did. He didn't call him

20:40jazz chisem. He started with chas and you can guess the rest of it. And then slide bright. The NFL truly means not for long less than two weeks ago. We were all upset. We'd have to watch the Falcons in three straight prime time games. Now the Falcons Ravens game on Sunday night football is easily a marquee matchup. Well, hold on for a second on that because we have some Lamar Jackson news. Um, and this sort of hovers over this ballgame. Do we have the tweet? In rapopore. Yes, sir. A year ago. There you go. Lamar Jackson dealing with the spray ankle that gives him only an outside chance outside chance to play Sunday against the Falcons. So we're to say Jackson could end up missing multiple games based on how rehab goes. But the injury is not considered long term or surgical. Now remember that happened late in this first half in the Ravens win this past weekend. Ravens were we're busy rolling in that ballgame. But, um, and I think that was a that was the Tyler loop 64 yard field goal drive where Chris Lewis the play by play announcer went, uh, loop dog from 64. I just want to bring that up

21:43everything. Like give me the loop every time. But a couple a couple plays before that Lamar got got sort of tackled funny and apparently the ankle tweaked right there. It was bizarre because we never really saw it. Right. It was it was half time. The news came down and kind of fun. Like comes in the game. Yeah. Huntley's going to start the third quarter and even the broadcasters like, well, we didn't really see an obvious spot. So I didn't really know exactly how to take that coming out of that game. But it's Lamar. It's an ankle of I think you think it makes sense. You're going to be careful with it. Look ahead number on this Atlanta Baltimore game was six reopened Baltimore three and a half. It is now out to Atlanta. A two and a half three point favorite based off of some of that news here this morning. Wow. You know, and Atlanta kick you guess last night and Atlanta destroyed. That's right. And my guess at Atlanta with Lamar was minus four. So swing away at Atlanta now a home favorite against Baltimore with that news of an outside chance quote unquote for Lamar to be able to play not only this week, but they say it could be a multiple

22:48week thing. Before we go on to Joshi and I don't want to I don't want to give the the white socks short shrift yesterday. White socks. White socks take a two to nothing lead over the guardians in that best of five. The difference in that that best of five is they're going home for games three and four to close out the guardians and wouldn't it be just like the guardians to scratch during the regular season and then just bid a quick goodbye in the playoffs. We've done our duty. We've ruined your season. Gil. Now we're going to just crap out four to three white socks win it. But though the guardians had this lead. They actually played a two runs on an error early took a two to nothing lead. That got cut to two to one. And then it was the top of the six yesterday where the white socks plated three took the lead four to two held it by the way great pitching from Sean Burke yesterday for the white socks. He was the real it was the real star for the chis socks. But bought excuse me. Yeah. Bottom a th. One man on Joe Adele steps to the plate. Glenn Taylor now in for

23:55the white socks in relief first pitch Adele goes top of the wall like like just the highest part of the ballpark which has the highest wall. I should say that part of the ballpark. It says the highest wall. How many feet below the top of that wall would you say it was it got way up there. It looked like a two run game tying shot instead it just misses. He ends up with a triple but next batter he gets stranded. And that would be it because Gun Taylor were not only retired the next batter but also one two three and the ninth and that was Katie Bar the door. White socks win that. So white socks raise both up to nothing in the American League Division series. Obviously the brewers up to to nothing and that one only the braves Dodgers one to one. Can you imagine if it's a white socks raise American League championship series. I'm rooting for the socks. What if you have a white socks raise braves brewers championship series. Enjoy the ratings. America coming back.

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26:01I can remember things from 1984 last night's a bit of a bit of an issue sometimes. Johnny Ringo on Twitter now the big question today is how does gilly get his fanboy into mention Barry bonds. Oh that's easy Barry bonds played for none of the teams currently alive. Thanks for asking. T shell doll. LOL amendment cool whip cool whip that's what I said cool whip. Hoops by hoops. What a recall by Kelly on a league of their own and then there's Marla Hooch what a hitter. Thank you there we go. That was the line. That there's Marla Hooch. What a hitter. Jason McKinney Cleveland Guardians are the tie are the will hill Titans for Gil. Yeah they are. Chriss Heath got to bring the bankroll to some brick and borders for the three day weekend speaking of when's the last time you visited Cal Niva talk about a place packed with drifters somebody vagrants there as a throwback to last week's drifters conversation. I got more of these to read but Joe sheen is kind enough to join us this morning because of baseball being in full swing and we want to maximize our Joe time Joe sheen now joins courtesy of the progressive guest line you can follow on Twitter at Joe underscore sheen Joe sheen.com the author of the Joe sheen newsletter Joe good morning. Good

27:03morning fellas. How's it going? You go very well. Kind of just start where I ended up last segment, which was if you if I'm giving major league baseballs you know headquarters truth serum and I say okay raise white socks. Let's go brewers braves in the other one. How do they feel about that? For those for those not watching. Joe made a motion of death. Let's just put it there. Yeah. Yeah it's tough and I mean MLB is going to get their money no matter what but they want their television partners to be happy and look it's just a matter of math the larger the the teams that from the larger markets simply draw more eyeballs. So if your Turner if your Fox you want the largest markets in there and raise white socks. So Chicago's actually going to be a great story Chicago's the third largest market but the race being in there either the brewers or the podra is in there is already not helping them all that much. They they really want the Yankees to the finish to come back they really want the Dodgers to finish this off. Guys like us are going to watch no matter what.

28:04Yeah but the truth is casual fans are going to come in the more large markets are in there and the more stars that are in there. Yeah my buddy Tommy who I use as a sort of reflection of all this he he will not be interested. It's not the Yankees and or the Dodgers. All right let's talk about today's games. It is game three. The only series that's not enough at one a piece. It's Yama Motov versus sale at truest park and Atlanta. That's the first of the two today. What do you think in here? Yeah I'm not that confident in Chris sale. He wasn't able to come back on his regular rest because in part maybe because of the relief outing on Thursday but it just seems to me that Chris sale if you look at his history the second worst month of September. He's got a really bad postseason track record. Some years he hasn't been able to finish the year. Two years ago he had back issues that prevented him from even pitching in the wildcard round. So I look at this as in basically an even money it was 108 last night with Yama Motov. The Dodgers were 16 games better than the Braves by third order record this year. There are a lot better baseball team. So I'm getting basically even money with one of the best pitchers in the game with the much better team. So give me the Dodgers.

29:08Guys I'm not sure the series even goes back to Los Angeles. Wow okay so you say the Dodgers closed them out while in Atlanta. So you're taking the Dodgers you're taking sale under 17 and a half outs. That would have been here. Yeah same reason guys. It just doesn't really have you just ever been that great that durable that great endurance. Now I did pitch well in the first game of the wildcard series. But again I'm looking at all this path to get him to starting today unable to ring the bell on Sunday throwing that relief outing. I think even if he's effective he's not going to go very deep into this game. So I thought 17 and a half was a pretty good number you can get under that. If he finishes six innings I'd be really surprised. All right Padres Brewers tonight we're at we're at San Diego now and the Brewers obviously famously leading this two games to none. It's Dustin May going up against Nick Paveta. Padres fighting for their lives their playoff lives here. You know you you recall baseball history far better than even I and I'm just curious do you remember I mean I'm sure there has been but in modern history do you remember two more gut

30:11wrenching losses in a row like those two. I go to the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series when they gave up the walkoff homers to I believe it was Tino Martinez and Derek Jeter in the middle of that series now they went on to win the World Series but to be on you and Kim gave up both home runs those were that was the first thing I really thought of people started saying oh you know these heartbreaking losses in a row that 2001 Diamondbacks team so maybe that's good news for the Padres. Yeah maybe although how are you playing this tonight? Yeah I like to see some runs I mean these are teams that you know pretty good offensive teams they've got there in the Brewers case number three starter going tonight with Dustin May probably isn't going to stay in the game long they're carrying three left handed long relievers in Kyle Harrison, uh change Rohan and Robert Gasser so I think May is going to be very short for this game and then you got Nick Paveta who you know he missed most of the season has been effective since coming off the IEL but these are the weaker starters in this series I like some runs early give me the over four and the fact that

31:14Caesars lists these as integers instead of halves really helps here because the three and a half the juicers too high the four and a half I don't want to bet the five I can bet exactly the four at Caesars at minus 104 and if it pushes it pushes but give me the over four in the first five things. Okay over four first five innings Brewers Padres back to that Diamondback series for a second because I just had a Mandela effect thing happened to me with a 30 for 30 doc a couple weeks ago it was the one about Vlade Devots and Drossen Petrovich I remembered it as as Vlade Devatch and Tony Kukoach turns out Kukoach was just a teammate of the both of those and I was like so sure about it right I was like oh that's not how I remember it all the that world series which is one of the great world series of all time did Brocious tie the game with the Homer before Geter won it was that how that went down because why do I remember Brocious it was 25 years ago man okay that's because my memory of it is like it was it was Brocious did something and then maybe Geter it when it turned

32:17November first tied up the front camera we'll have to go back and look yeah there's a guy Mark Simon who used to be with ESPN now is at baseball and throw solutions he actually knows the last out of every single world series going back to 1903 we got to get him on here on days that you Mark Simon's one of the smartest baseball guys I know so well we'll get him on it you can you can talk about Barry bonds and Scott Brocious okay okay I appreciate it I can I can name every world series champion my lifetime though but I can't do that for any other sport so baseball has and Steve Fesec always says it's because baseball fits nicely into a year whereas the other sports always have 2005 2006 2006 2007 so your brain remembers it better interesting okay to be it is anyway Guardians White Sox you believe the Guardians are not dead I wanted to pick to look at the two the three two O series and try to figure out are any of these teams live it's tough because the Podgers are down two O to the best team in baseball the Razor down or the Yankees are down two O to

33:20the best team in the American League that doesn't really leave a lot of options but I look at this Guardians team yes they're the team that's going on the road to Chicago and that's going to be a great environment Wednesday guys first playoff game there in five years coming off the 121 loss season a couple of years ago but if I had to pick one of these three winning teams teams up two O to not hold on it would be the White Sox will Venables done a really good job of forcing innings to the best pictures on what's a very thin pitching staff the Guardians haven't hit it all they have two runs three runs so far one of them on the adult triple the other basically on a ground ball that was thrown away but I just I look at these three series and like if there's one team that's going to lose three in a row it's probably the White Sox so I seen them as high as the Guardians highest plus five 75 is probably worth some pocket money I think I think most people would agree with that between the between the Brewers White Sox and Rays that the the White Sox would be the most likely to a Gacket of the three if one of them did the only series we haven't touched on and I this is more sports talk radio than anything but if you could address the Yankees

34:21fans specifically and just say to them do they have any hope at all in this if not what's the what's the primary failure beyond beyond a judge injury. The judge injury I mean this is a team that from the time judge got hurt until the end of the year was a bottom 10 offense and we've seen that play out in the first two games obviously last night's defensive follies were a big contributor to why they lost Ryan McBane with the error in the first jazz schism you look at later in the game they credit well George Lombard either made an error allowed a hit or a game of the field is choice it was literally changed twice during the game there was a catchers interference in there they played a terrible baseball game but it's not going to matter if you only scored two runs they have two runs and two games and that's just that's the failure I mean we can talk about how bad they played last night they did but it's the offense and it's the offense that is why the guardians are on the brink of elimination you know even the Padres obviously was two tough losses but they've only scored five runs in two games so for all of these teams it's the offense and we said a week ago guys it was going

35:25to be a low scoring postseason 3.7 runs per game and a 627 OPS so far you nailed that man that's for sure you got to you got to score to win I'm told um last thing team with more magic raise or brewers the brewers I think you'll be the you can say if he passed a little while ago I think that's kind of part of their story um so yeah I think okay there's your answer hockey with Jake Hunt next if you like YouTube you'll love YouTube Premium hi I'm Sean Evans from Hot Ones and I want to tell you about YouTube Premium it has offline downloads so you can watch without Wi-Fi background play so you can lock your phone and it still plays baby oh and it is completely ad free yes I said it ad free try YouTube Premium for two months free at youtube.com slash premium trial eligibility varies terms apply cancel anytime

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37:36that's huge that games up to seven at some places now uh bedma governor brewers raise world series first off i never understood why anyone outside of the owners care about tv rating second at least it would reduce the need for a protracted lockout yeah that would buttress the owners case right owners who want a salary cap um so yankies and dodgers are tanking enjoy baseball while you can that's what's happening no carcin the degenerate gambling uh dog uh lol no longer a marquee matchup i did say it meant not for long meaning uh the Lamar jaxon injury knocking the uh falcons Baltimore game for marquee matchup status and uh Matthew Mayberry yes Scott brochures hit the Homer to tie it so again again the long-term memory was correct which is in the one game tino tied it up Derek jeter won it as the as the calendar turned to november remember they called him mr november at that moment because remember it was a delayed world series and delayed season

38:40because of nine eleven in two thousand one so they played later and then it was Scott brochures who won the game the following game game five for the games so my long-term memory is correct again i called grantey of glintaylor last night though it's funny how the brain works um and michael a fun gill you're absolutely right to be offended by the broadcaster who calls the field go by Tyler loop man or whatever he says this guy resert reges the pinnacle of his career by doing an NFL game and minimizes the accomplishment he has a male bimbo wow wow talking about Chris Lewis right there i'll call him a male bimbo tell you he's not a male bimbo jay con joins us now from Toronto Canada north of the border talking hl with us where they are a one week or so shy of Canadian Thanksgiving Jake good join us now courtesy progressive guest like you follow him on twitter jay hon four what's happening Jake that that's right girl and maybe your best transition yet you've had some great ones when i join you that might have been your best transition of the mall and i'm doing great any any october i'm always doing great guys last night sitting on the couch i've got

39:44Monday football on one screen i've got playoff baseball on another screen i've got hockey on another screen so how can i be in a bad mood in october uh give us if you would give us if you would your pa out of edger of etchkin announces yesterday this is it for him this is his final season so unlikely to get to not i mean almost almost impossible for him to get to a thousand unless something ridiculous happened now terms of goal scored but he of course uh has the record for the most goal scored ever he will set it at a point that is unlikely to get broken in our lifetime by anybody at least anybody we can foresee at this point put his career in in nhl history context for us if you would well he is the greatest goal scorer of all time now obviously it's tough to compare eras guys and you look at it and you go okay well you know greetski was playing in a different era where goals were a lot easier to come by at times and obviously he was he's the best player of all time and has blown away every other record but when it just comes to pure goal scoring

40:44uh power play goal scoring as well alice of etchkin is the king obviously we saw pass greetski with that record i look i wouldn't put him people are going to have the mount rush more conversation all these sorts of things he wouldn't be in that debate for me guys that would be a you know greetski gory how sinny krosby would certainly be in that debate and still playing at a very high level for the Pittsburgh penguins so he wouldn't be any sort of mount rush more conversation for for me guys but what he's meant to watch in capitals hockey what he's meant to rush and hockey as well and just watching a play just fun right yes fun scoring goals he has fun playing the game so i'm going to miss him but i i like that he's got this out there early so we can kind of have the oviswan song each and every spot he goes to everybody will have the chance to buy their tickets to the last capitals game here the last capitals game there there's ovifants all over the place so i'm glad i i'm glad he did this early so we don't have to debate all year is he going to come back for another year and look the capitals look like a really solid team this year there's there's nothing putting it past maybe them going on a deep playoff run potentially in ovis last year that would be awesome of course uh ovechkin you know apologies to brady and

41:47hope be in the rest of that team but uh ovechkin got him their cup man first time in four in the 44 years of that franchise they got themselves their Stanley Cup and as i said at the time and i'll say to this day if you gave every washington capitals fan truth serum after that they'd be like we're cool we got our cup it's good it's good now uh about today wild at the sabers you have a play in this one on the side i do like the minnesota wild on the money line in this game basically priced around to pick them right now guys i'm just a little down on the buffalo sabers this year now i've only got a couple looks at each of these teams so far so we're working off a small sample size but sort of going off more of my preseason thoughts on these teams and the buffalo sabers had an excellent season last year one of the great stories in the national hockey league making the playoffs for the first time in over a decade and the building was rocking i didn't necessarily love their offseason i still think they're going to be a competitive team they could make the playoffs again but i just think minnesota is a cut above you know maybe some question marks down the middle of the ice in minnesota but they've looked really really good through a couple of games so far so i like the price here i

42:49just think the better team i know they're on the road uh doesn't concern me too much i think minnesota continues to roll and makes it a three and i'll start to the new nhl season all right matriol canadiens are hosting the hurry canes tonight as our old friend a name mcneil used to call them uh yacob dob is in goal for the canadiens you have a prop play still awaiting on a number for this as they're usually pretty slow to release the goal tender props we got to get confirmation once the goalie starts but i i can almost guarantee dob ish will get this game for the mcneil canadiens and this is a rematch guys of the eastern conference final for last year that the carolina hercane's absolutely dominated a muncherel one game one and then the canes won the next four in completely dominant fashion uh so look you could make a case if you want for muncherel here a little bit of a revenge angle on home ice at the bell center i wouldn't mind that play but i'm going to look to dob ish and the safe prop it's almost an auto play any goal tenor that plays the carolina hercane's guys they did it with the flyers over the weekend uh you could play whatever the number is over saves because the canes just love to fire the puck you could play them up to thirty plus saves in some spots if you

43:53could find a good number i think you could get some good value on that and logon stan coven specifically on the caneside over two and a half shots around plus one fifty maybe you could get it up the plus one sixty right now i think a real good value for a guy that's on the ice a lot and loves to fire the puck okay so let's let's say that again dob is over saves whatever that number comes out to sort of an auto play against the canes right now but stan coven over sogs the over shots on goal love it for the hurricanes in uh opposition all right i was still putting sog on the broadcast Jake like i was that tnt was that a turner thing that was going sog at the top yeah big friend most of the broadcast do have a little sod counter up there now the funny thing is with how uh you know frugal they are with shots on goal now and the shot counting has changed over the last couple of years i think a lot of it does have to do with the all the money being bet on on the sogs you'll see you'll see that thing go up okay we got three or four sogs and then all of a sudden two of them disappear kelly so keep an eye on that if you're ever watching a game

44:54it's that you can't rely too much on the saw counter but it is nice to have it up there is if fair to say Jake you were higher on those prop bets like two years ago i remember us talking about this kind of changing a year like last year so okay net not as much value in those in i was i was kind of out on them for a while i've sort of come back in now you have to choose your spots a little bit could because we are finally getting some better odds again i think at one point they were taking the sogs away but we weren't getting great odds now at the very least the odds have become a little bit better and to me more beddouble i where i can take the risk i look i know they might take a shot away from me and that's going to be frustrating but i'm getting at least decent prices to bet some of these overs uh blues are taking on the black hawks in chicago tonight i feel like i'm on to you on this jague you are just doing this to pander to kelly right your next one this this one is specifically for my good pal kelly bidlin jimmy snuggler rude over two and a half shots on goal jimmy snuggler rude i know kelly's favorite hockey player um look you can almost look at him for an anytime goal here as well i believe about about plus two twenty for an anytime goal here i

45:56like him to score a lot this season this is a good matchup to against an o and three black hogs team that does not look good through their first few games granted they have had some very tough matchups i think st. Louis is the better team i don't love the price on the money line on the road maybe this is a bit of a step up game for chicago they're going to want to get a win on the board but i like snuggler rude to fire plus money for three shots on goal and you could take a look at that anytime goal as well all right vagus goldenites off to a two and one start they are at the cracking tonight prime time action bat brown with screen crack and right crack uh you have a prop in this one as well yeah yeah both these teams look pretty good here in the early part of the season guys sia battles more surprisingly so we expect vagus to be good they made the cup final last year i think they're going to be right there in the thick of it again this season but on the sia outside of the ledger they've had two separate six school games now they're both against the calivary flames so i don't think they're going to go for six against vagus tonight but bobby mcman the guy they paid in the off season they traded for last year he has been firing a ton former tronno maple leaf i've watched a lot of him here in tronno he'll shoot it from anywhere and you're still

46:58getting some real good value on his shot props in the early part of the season all right every host every guest every sport including jakes hockey plays will be at vc.com slash picks for for subscribers got the wild on the side and he's got those four props we'll repeat them later on the show as well thank you jake always love talking to you guys talk to you next week drew to the next