#688 - Candace Owens

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1:0115% off online with my code weekend at huule.com slash weekend. That's h-u-e-l.com slash weekend. Thank you to Hule for partnering and supporting our show. She's an investigator, a media personality and a seeker of truth. Her namesake show on YouTube is immensely popular. She's here. She's pregnant with her fifth child. She's my friend. Grateful for our time with today's guest, Miss Candace Owen. Yeah, I think so. I mean, I don't want to hear that. But you can't say no. You can't say the other thing. Well, I can't. Yeah, you couldn't be like, no, you don't look good. I feel like, wow, feel I was aggressive. Well, you can't also be like,

2:05yeah, you look good. Like it's like when someone is pregnant, it's a weird time to associate with them sometimes because it feels like, yeah, how do they look, you know? What's going on? And what do you say that's supportive? But what do you also like? Because you also have to shut down any sort of like, you know, you can't be flirtatious. Not that I'd be flirtatious because I know I don't mean like that. But it's like any energy that's like, would you normally have that energy towards someone that was pregnant? No, I don't think so. I think I don't know what I'm talking about. Let's have her check your makeup. Just you look okay for you. So you know, the first thing you said to me when you walked to the door for dinner, I don't know how a couple months ago, but you were like, I forgot you were pregnant. You weirdo. Yeah, that's your pregnancy greeting. There we go. It works. It actually does kind of work. That's a good one. Well, I remember actually this is true. I walked into your kitchen. This is like maybe like a couple weeks ago. And there was some lady from behind who was like making something

3:06on the counter or something. And I was like, oh, dang, they got a little thickie in here. They got a little lady from Atlanta working over here. And then I didn't, I forgot you were pregnant. You turn around. It was me. No, I didn't. You say that. I'm a little. No, I didn't say it out loud. No, I don't mean your head. Yeah. So now you said it out loud. But I meant like they got a little shoddy working in here. Or they had a woman that was just a little more Rubinesque. Yeah, that's a good word. You know, Rubinesque. That's what I meant. They had a woman that's a little more Rubinesque. And I was like, oh, dang, they got a little mommy working in here. Little mommy. And then there we are. And I was right. And I'm here because I feel like this is going to be good luck. And then I'll have the baby because last time I did your podcast, I feel like the baby came right after. I did you and I did Tim Dylan and then the baby came. So now I think it's like a ritual. I'm going to do you. If then I'm going to do Tim Dylan and then the baby will come. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, look, yeah. I hope we're good luck somehow. I think if the baby hears us talking, it's like I got to get out there and help this lady. You know, things are things have

4:09gone downhill. Oh, my God. I can't when thoughts have the fifth. I know, dude. It's crazy. I've been in a permanent state of pregnancy. I don't think people respect that enough. Like I'm basically a queen ant. You do not act like someone who's pregnant. I'll say that. That's what I think that's part of it to me anyway. You may act like that around other folks, but I think I never get this kind of like, you know, like you're like crawling across the floor, like barely getting to know what that's the problem. I'm going to start doing that because I feel like people will have to be nicer to me. If I start pretending, I'm in a state, you know, yeah. People are people are so mean on the internet. I feel like if I'm just, of course, there's a lot of what I'm talking about. I feel like if I find that's all I'm not good at asking people questions. People always like, dude, you as a, it's a lovely place theater that I feel like I'm like, how are you doing with me? I'm so pregnant right now. But I feel like if I lean into the pregnancy and I pretend to be more miserable and like, I can't do it, then people will have to be nice. So I'm going to try that for these next three weeks.

5:11Oh, a little bit more pathetic. Oh, yeah. Because you don't do pathetic well. I know. You don't do it. You're just still going and cruising. You forget that you're pregnant. Where some people kind of lead with the pregnancy, you know. But yes, people are root. Yeah, people are like, oh, that's not even a baby. That's a data center. Some people have said that she's got, yeah, like, wait, I haven't seen this part of the internet. Now you have to tell me. No, I saw somebody. It's like, dude, she's not even pregnant. She's just building a data center. They're building a data center in her womb. It's just like crazy. What? Yeah. I actually feel like I go down every rabbit hole. But I have not gone down the rabbit hole where there are data centers in your womb. It's new stuff. Candace are doing new stuff. Look, that's when we start to be out of touch. That's when you're like, oh, I can't even. I can't follow this. I'm out of touch. And there are some conspiracies. I have to say, and I love conspiracies like every rabbit hole. You know, I'm down there. But there are some where I'm just like, how did you get here? And that would probably be one where I'm like, what do you mean? I'm carrying a data center in my womb. Yeah, it's just a router for the

6:15government or people are like, she's just, yeah, she's just, she's like transporting data for rush. Like people will say all kinds of stuff. What website are you on? She's a data mule or whatever. These aren't even kids. It's just like, you know, it's so crazy. I don't think I've ever seen that one. I've seen people who say that I'm not pregnant and they're not my kids and stuff like that. Oh, really? I think that happens. I never post them. Everyone's doing the thing where they post their kids and their kids are turned into a product and then they're taking these impossible family pictures. They're impossible. When you have a certain amount of kids, you can't get like the nice, perfect family shot. And I think because I don't give them enough of the personal life, it kind of makes them a bit fantastical. So they sort of write the myth, the mythology. Yeah. Of the kids, they don't really know what they look like. They don't know anything about my kids. So do you do that on purpose? Yeah. For sure. I mean, everybody, I'm not judging people's style or whatever, but I personally just feel like that's a big decision to make for your kid. It's actually, Skyler was showing me. Was it you showing me the clip yesterday of like

7:20somebody? It was obviously a comedic sketch, but it was just like a kid walking around the mall with his parents and random strangers are like, happy fourth birthday and like saying their name and know all these random facts. Like, hope you did good at the soccer game and the four year olds like looking up at them, like, how do you know this information? And that's kind of my mentality where that's just it's strangers knowing a lot about your children and being able to recognize them and know them. I feel like that's a lot for us that we just it's not I think it's something that we want to do. It was probably not healthy. Yeah, but I didn't see that bit. Can you do you have it? Trevindy, you see that? Yeah, it's actually really interesting. And I was like, I couldn't articulate how I felt about it, but when I saw the clip, I was like, this is exactly how I feel about kids on the internet. Oh yeah, that's it. That was fast. Hi, Eva. Do you know about that, Mom? What would she know in prom? Happy birthday, Eva. Is already. Look like a ball with your friends.

8:26Oh, I see your back plane football. Thursday's, Eva. I hope your dad picks you up on time for once. That's great. Right. And you share their life online. You risk sharing their personal data with the world. That is pretty true. That's kind of how I feel about it. Yeah. It's just kind of a lot of information and kids don't understand. And my kids don't even understand what I do. Yeah. And just now, Georgie started to ask questions when people come up to me and ask for a picture. And he's like, how do you know that person? And I just say, oh, this is a friend from school or whatever, don't really address it because I don't need to right now at his age. But yeah, I kind of want to protect that for a little bit. And we don't know how it's going to end, especially when you see people whose kids are a part of the product. You know what I'm saying? And they get to the age and they're part of the product. I'm sure in their minds, they're like, well, we're making a living off of this. So it's good for our kids. We're making money. But I also do think about how is it

9:26shaping their minds? Do they become more attention seeking? Are they already thinking, do I have likes? How many people like this? Am I reading the comments? So I don't think we know the effects of how kids that are being raised on the internet. We I was saying we pioneered it. Like we did not have the internet. So we were lucky. Our parents had a beaper. And then we went off and in your dad was using usually. And that was it. My actually, my dad was just working at the hospital. But you know, yeah, different strokes for different folks. Yeah, to get into the get in for a shift. Yeah, I mean different, yeah, different things. But for sure. Yeah, I can't even fathom like and how things are going to affect us. It's like, man, it's it's really scary to think of how some of these things are going to affect us. Yeah. We don't know. Yeah. And I feel like the kids that have the most access to it, just looking at the Hollywood demonstration. I mean, those kids are not they're not looking their best. They don't look tip top on their kids. They're just going through a lot

10:29right now. And you feel bad. I mean, you feel really bad for them because they grew up with a lot of attention. So I don't think it's good to replicate it and get kids on the internet. But I mean, it does almost starts to seem like a disease in a way. Like I think for some of those people, like even if you look at Britney Spears, she's out here, like she's out there spinning with those knives and shit in kind of her fireplace all the time. What are we going to do? And everybody just like, oh, love your first album. Like what are you talking about this? Ladies, not doing good. No, Britney Spears, I feel so bad for because obviously I grew up with Britney Spears. You had to pick a side. Yeah, look at this. Yeah. But this gets normal starting in her up to Candace. But this starts to get normal. Oh, yeah. She just who normalized that? She's just going to julienne something in a few minutes. And so she just getting ready. She's obviously got a new job as a sous chef or whatever. And the dogs are begging for help. There's one video where somebody decodes the dogs as shapes are making them trying to make letters spelling out help in the background. Oh, I feel so bad for her because she is an example of what like she probably never needed to go

11:31into the conservatorship. And then she never really came out of it because they were forced drugging her. But they were, you can't come back from lithium. Like they, yeah, they burned, they burned her brain. Like it's like melted her brain with lithium. It's crazy what they did to her. And honestly, people should be in prison. They should absolutely be in prison. And I feel like it's a part of the broader story that a lot of artists were trying to tell like from Michael Jackson to Kanye to Britney Spears, like some Justin Bieber even was talking, you know, what's actually manifesting in Hollywood. And some of these people did not survive it. I mean, Michael Jackson didn't survive it. I don't think Britney Spears is ever going to be the Britney Spears that we grew up with, which is super sad because she thinks she was a sweet girl and she they just used her. I mean, the industries, we're now learning how disgusting Hollywood is. But I think Justin Bieber made it out and think Kanye made it out gratefully. But yeah, I think she went through a lot of dark stuff. And even that though, I wouldn't even let my kids be in a commercial. Now that I'm an adult, like obviously when I was young, I'm like, this is so cool. Like these are all these teeny-bopper

12:36stars and then sink and backstreet boys or whatever it was. But now that we're adults, I just can't imagine giving my children to like the Mickey Mouse Club and letting them, it's weird. In retrospect, it's weird. So you wonder who were the adults that were in charge because I was the same age as these people. It was normal. You guys were adults. Let's let's look up this lithium thing really quick. Let me see. She testified that she was immediately placed on lithium in her June 2021 address to a law of stainless court. Brittany Spears stated she was immediately placed on lithium, a potent medication typically for bipolar disorder, severe depression. She described the side effects as making her feel drunk and numb, stating that it impaired her ability to converse or stand up for herself. That's kind of weird. She was on it for years. So you should, if you look into some of the scientific studies on what lithium does to your brain over that amount of time. That's why I say it's not something that you can just bounce back from. I would pray that she could, but that's

13:36definitely what's going on. She was drugged against her will. That's so scary. The concept of being drugged against your will. And then for a judge to say this can just keep happening permanently for how many years was she in the conservatorship? And everyone's like, it's for the best. And when you actually reflect on what she was going through, she probably just needed to take a break. I don't know, go to a secluded island where there's no paparazzi, take some rest. She was basically begging people to leave her alone. I know nobody would. Under her legal conservatorship for 13 years and nine months. God. 13 years of your life where you have to. But who was in charge of that? Well, was it a hodgepodge of people apparently? I think it was that woman who needs to be looked into for sure who was working with Britney Spears's father. Taylor is the name I'm thinking of because there's a lot about that woman. She's another Calvary Chapel. Lou Taylor. Lou Taylor. Lou Taylor. Yeah, I haven't gotten too deep into the Lou Taylor

14:38conspiracies, but there's definitely something there. And it's interesting because you know who I spoke to. This is one of the craziest stories that came together, but basically Russell Brand. Introduced me via text to Courtney Love a few years ago. And she sent me all of this stuff. She was just like a ton of messages, ton of messages. And at the time of what didn't know what she was speaking about that like I because I didn't grow up in Hollywood. And she was basically explaining to me that there was sort of a mafia that when they want your publishing rights, they'll go after you. They'd never want people to like have their own publishing rights. So that's what Michael Jackson was fighting Sony. He wanted it. And he was winning by the way. He was he owned the Beatles catalog. So then what they do is they send out like mafia press hits against you. It's kind of like when I'm going through right now, but it's just kind of failing. It's really a different time. But they essentially will then try to present you as a drug addict or they may they'll follow you and have hop like paparazzi everywhere you go. And so maybe you're just doing this. And they're like fios like in a crisis. Yeah, it's pink. I would ever. Yeah, he's on a bender like. You've been going

15:42down on strangers or whatever. Right. Exactly. Exactly. And so imagine every single day, every you can't walk out of this room. And there's just people that are waiting there. And then these people basically have a mental breakdown. You're crazy. You're crazy. It's yeah, they keep calling you crazy, calling you crazy. So you think it's that whole thing is a design thing. Well, when she said it and she was talking about she was like, you got to look into the Mormon mafia. She's like, Lutella and she said a bunch of stuff allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, I'm recapping a conversation. So the conversation itself is not allegedly. And she was like, but this is a publishing rights mafia. And they, you know, she I could see it's ownership. She was talking to me about Kurt Cobain and like, it's all about ownership. She's like, you are not allowed to own anything. So with anyone who started to examine these cases independently of Michael Jackson, Kanye West, I haven't looked too much in the Britney Spears, but I should because you know me, I got to go down every rabbit hole. Just in being like, oh, yeah, you're the chocolate rabbit. Yeah, I got chocolate rabbit. I got to go down every rabbit hole. I mean, you've got to take you. Yeah, I will eventually. You've used to run for its money. Yeah, for real. You're probably America's most popular

16:43chocolate. I'm genuinely down every single rabbit hole. I can't stop. Like when people give me a tip and I'm like, I'm chasing, chasing, but yeah, Britney Spears and then Justin Bieber, even recently where they were really hounding and trying to make us think he was having a mental break. What was he trying to do? Just get out of his contracts. Yeah. He just wanted to go back to being the kid on YouTube with his, and that's what he's doing now. And it's so cool that he's just, all I need is my guitar and my voice. I don't, he sold his whole catalog. He just wanted out. Wow. So it's cool. Yeah. That is, that is an interesting rabbit hole because it is, I think people don't realize sometimes. And I believe that it is this mafia in Hollywood. It's like the publicist, it's all this like this kind of teeter totter where they're just like one is like, you do this and then we'll do the, and then it's all the system, right? It's all this, it's like a huge piece of racketeering going on. It is. And it's also book publishing rights and podcasts now. It's obviously a new space or whatever, but they're constantly worried about who's going to actually own this catalog when you're gone because once they own it, they also can delete it, they can edit it.

17:46There's so many things that they can do with your music. Well, music being used to influence things too. Like that's another thing. It's just like, okay, when then we have these influential tools to be able to kind of put them into the masses in certain ways at certain times. Always, yeah, because Brittany, I mean, it's just like, I mean, they turned her into a damn Donna Tello out there, the frickin ninja turtle. I mean, she's out here every other week. She has a different weapon. She's spinning around. It's like, it's sad. It is. It's so sad when you, if you go back and watch her, she's like a damn slap chop over there. No, it's crazy. Yeah, they turn her into a damn smag blend or whatever. You know what? And the whole thing was like, we had to do this to protect her. We had to put in a conservatorship because she was spending her money. It's her money. Genuinely, if you make $10 million, yeah. And you want to irresponsibly spend it all, that's actually kind of your right. You don't need to put somebody in a conservatorship to have a right to go broke. Is anybody put in a conservatorship when they lose all their money in Vegas? Or if you get, yeah, that's your money. You haven't it. You have a right to lose it. It's like what are you talking about? Judges size. You're not responsible enough. Same thing with

18:48Wendy Williams. I don't know what's going on with that. But she's been somebody took her, it's her bank. It was kind of scary. I was like, we need to go back to a cash society because could you imagine your bank calling and being like, your money is mine because that's what happened to Wendy Williams. Well, that's what happened to Kanye too, wasn't it? Didn't his bank freeze? He got debanked. He got debanked. How do you even get that? They send you a letter and they're like, sorry, we don't like your views. That made me go local. I did like I saw what happened. It was wild. Like, how are you sending letters just like, hey, Theo, I saw episode 279 and we're debanking you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, hey, the banks have got too much power. Yeah, man, you lost your ATM privileges for this week. That's how it'll be for this past weekend. Yeah, yeah, for this past weekend, you're too caught. So I started seeing that. I was like, okay, so we pulled out of the big banks and sort of my local, go on local for everything is better. I 10 of 10 would recommend everyone goes local for their food for their banking, knowing who these people are as a human beings.

19:49I think really matters. And we, who was it that got debanked and it kind of sent a chill up our spine? And we were like, let's just leave them before they leave us because I'm not considered to be uncontroversial. So if we're heading in that direction, that's just China, though, credit score system. I feel like that's where we're treading. If you debank someone based on an opinion or a belief, that's effectively a credit score system. So like, like, all this social credit score. Yeah, that's like that black mirror episode. That was, do you remember that one? That was so good. Black mirror freaked me out. Really? I think it's why I'm so paranoid about a lot of this stuff, even what we're talking about with kids on technology because I watched every episode of Black mirror. And black people, you got pissed about it too, remember? They're like, oh, a mirror is fine, but it's a black mirror. And shit's all fucked up. I didn't even remember that talking. There was a lot of people online like that. Oh, everything fine with a regular mirror, but people pull up with a black mirror and now shit's going bad. I think they just meant the screens are black. I know. I know. That's hilarious. I'm sure that,

20:51because I feel like that kind of came out when there was a lot of that going on. People were looking to be offended, but that was a, that episode was scary. Oh, that's, and she had to like, be nice to somebody in the nis and then her, her score was down and then that's how she felt about herself. That's the scariest part is when the score goes down. Yeah. Black mirror becomes reality with China's social scoring. What's the episode called? Can you get me that? Nose dive, it's called. Yes. Black mirror Wikipedia. That was so good. Are we far from that though? I think we're, where I think we are literally in it and we just don't know. We are obviously in it. That's what I think. 1000%. That's when you see these like mobs descend and that's what cancel cultures all about. That's actually trying to develop a social credit score. You can't perform in this arena because you said this. You can't do this. You can't do that. You can't partake in society because we disagree with you. Then it gets even scarier because at least she had minor offenses in the episode. If I remember correctly, it could be anything who you were hanging out with. But now it's even scarier

21:52because you can get canceled for doing the right thing. They can dip your credit score for doing social credit score for doing the right thing. Speaking up about something, if somebody speaks up and that's not right. And then suddenly you can't play this stadium. We just saw last week. So think about that where it's basically saying you have to be a bad person to partake in society. And I think that's what we've been going through for the last three years. I mean, at least I have. I don't know if that's a personal story. And we get into some of it. It's tricky. So you have to think, well, one is like, I've even mentioned this to you before. It's like, you have to start to find new ways to put your money in certain places. That's the only thing to affect change. It's like, where do you put your money? Because it's like, we have to find almost new systems of of everything, right? You have to find like a whole new way, like a whole new place to put your money. Because as long as they like kind of these larger bodies, these bigger enemies, black rock, these bigger things own everything, you just and we keep having to pay them for everything.

22:57You know, it's almost like you have to create this new capitalism or go back to like a smaller structure or something, you know, I don't know. Like when you're just trading with your neighbors. Yeah. Yeah. I should have brought you over some lettuce today or some tomatoes. Yeah. We could just trade it. Oh, yeah. I could trade you. Yeah. I have to think I have some fresh, I think I have some fresh basil or something like, you know, something that a woman gave me when she left me or whatever. But I do have, yeah, I think I have some basil. I could trade you for that status center. I just, I'm very noisy. Can I just prod a woman left you some basil? Just like a little wish thing that worked out a little plant pot with a little basil in it. A little thing like that like a breakup basil. Yeah. Break up basil. That's fantastic. Do that's a great idea. That's fantastic. I love this girl. Actually, I think I met this girl. Break up basil. Did I meet her? Oh, no, you didn't. That was just a friend. Okay. Yeah, that came to the uh, yeah, that's okay. Where we go to the farmers market and she was looking for a, she was looking for something.

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27:13the world is always operated under dark systems right. It always has right yeah yeah. And so that's yeah, I mean, I love senior kids. Your kids are freaking hilarious. They love you. They are I love you. You walk the door. They just light up. They just dude, I freaking light up. Yeah, you have to have kids because you're just meant to be a dad. They are. They're so funny. They're very funny. They're very entertaining. They're smart. They're very confident. Our kids so they'll just kind of go right up to you and speak to you. Oh, that's a good point. And I think that is partially because we abstain from the technology and you just need to go actually communicate and speak. Oh, yeah, obviously I'm not one that's ever had a loss for words. So I'm over communicative with them about everything, but they are very funny. They're very funny. Yeah, they just adore you. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I'll tell other people like, oh, yeah, can it's like, dude, she is the best kids. And like, dude, why are you talking about this lady's kids, bro, chill. And like, they're my friends. Okay. In your defense, they are your friends. They absolutely love you. So

28:15it is. You play with that. I mean, that's why I was like, you have to be a dad because you're just, they're fun. The vibes are just there. You're just meant to be a dad. You gotta have a lot of kids. I know. You'd be great with boys too. Because I have so many boys and the energy of boys is just on another level. I got to get a batch going. Yeah. Something's going to happen. I can feel it. It's in them. I can feel it in the air. I get people that hit me up the whole time on Instagram. I'm like, trying to slide into your DMs. Really? Yeah. It's crazy. Well shoot the slides. No, there's a lot of people that are trying to date you all over the internet. Like they girls love you. What the heck? Where are they? There's a lot of them. I get like text messages, I get Instagram stuff. They are just all about you right now. You're, you're in your prime. You gotta go out there. I gotta get out. Yeah. You gotta find your seat. You gotta get out there. Shit. I was going to take a nap later. I'm not. You're getting on my bike. I'm a freaking bike around 10. A little bit out. It's got a new eight speed. Yeah. It was supposed to be a 10 speed, but it's from China that they were so it's like, fuck, you lose two speeds in the mail or whatever. It's just like that's where you know these Trump tariffs or whatever. It's like, you don't even get

29:18all 10 speed. We can't get anything in this economy right now. Yeah. Your kids are funny though, dude. Yeah. I'm all I'm like, what are one of my buddy's sales? Like, oh, yeah, she's got the best kids. And they're like, oh, to do they ever play like pin the tail on whoever killed Charlie Kerr. They're naturally exploring things. Investigative. Yeah. Yeah. They're just walking around with like, um, little magnifying glass. You know, let me see your fingerprints. It's what it it is interesting to see which qualities the kids get. You just never know what you're going to get. I don't know. It's just that's the interesting thing about kids is the same two humans can just create different kids. You just it would expect it's just going to be you're dropping the same kid over and over, but they're just all so different. That's what's fascinating. When do you start to notice like what the difference is right away in the womb? Really? This one coming crazy. No, he's out of control. Oh my god. He's out of control. Yeah. Yeah. Is it and what you notice in something? Is it because like you're like, have you been having like a special saucer? Like are you doing certain condiments

30:21or something that could be flaring them up? No, he just they are who they are in the womb. And I've been right about all their personalities. Louise, we could not get a picture of she was sleeping throughout the whole thing. She you know, she kind of runs the place. She's tricky. She knows what's going on. And then her brothers are all different. Maxi was the chillest in in the womb. And he's pretty gentle kind of in a weird way. He's like sweet. Yeah. You know, he's so sweet. And he's like, he's my sweet kid. He was sweet in the womb. And you'll be excited if you're going to like throw him on the couch. But he also wants to do it very softly and like kind of like and make sure it's going to be in a comfortable manner. Exactly. That's exactly. Maxi. It's pretty cool. Lesson Georgie. And they all want to be like Georgie. Georgie is just the natural leader of the kids. And he loves rules. I mean, every single one of my appointments and the ultrasound, they'd be like, look up. He'd be like, I have this person really loves this look. I really loves a rule. Oh, and he could hear him in ultrasound. No, but it felt like it because he was just, because they're trying to get certain shots during an ultrasound. So they want to check like

31:22their spine, heart, whatever it is. And sometimes you just can't get a picture. Like Louise, forget it. She just was not here for it. She never let them do anything. She's in her own world. But Georgie was just like on the money. He hit every single mark in terms of here's the range. He is perfect, perfect, perfect for height, length, width, whatever. And that's how he is. Georgie is just the, it's all about the rules. You tell him a rule. It will be followed. You got to be careful. If you tell him a rule, because then if you catch yourself outside of the bounds of the rules, the rules come back. They rules come back. I mean, rules aren't even rules. He'll tell me his dad's gone for two days and he'll just be like, you know, dad doesn't like when that lamps on. I'm a grown woman. I turn this lamp on when your dad's not here. Dad, dad doesn't like this. So he says, I always say he's, he's Georgia's mini. It's really sweet. Oh, it's cute. That's what's fun. So you got to, you got to get yourself a litter. I can find you a girl. What's your type? I feel like I know your type. I can get a frick, I think I can get a w it just been like a little bit tricky. Because now you have exposure.

32:23I don't know. I don't try to date like fancy girls really like, you know, like, what's my type on me thing? I don't know. I mean, a woman for sure and good woman. I would clarify that. Kind eyes has to be able to be a good mom. That's going to be that's pretty paramount. Okay, when you say kind eyes, give me an example of someone who has not kind eyes. Hmm. Well, we both know what it was. It wasn't setting that up. I mean, we both know she who must not be named. She who must not be named. Oh, she's a Halloween costume of a woman. Yeah. So funny because I wasn't going in that direction. As soon as I came out, she was named. That's so crazy. Yeah. The fact that the whole world knows what we're talking about.

33:25I think we cannot be named. We'll be for everybody's fuck. Everything's insane, dude. The world has gone insane. And it's a perfect time for Halloween. It is. It is. Because if we're already living it, people are like, what do you mean it's Halloween is fucking Halloween every day. Every day. Every single day you're going what is going on? I just want some director to yell cut. I know. I hope we are living in a matrix. And the director can just yell cut. Yeah. And then they just give you an all-sutts down. You know, like your wife's like, all right, I gotta get I'm out. Yeah. She's like, gotta be home in 10 minutes. Yeah. Where's your home? Pete would all shut down like Truman's like it just. Yeah. That'd be kind of nice. I'd be okay with it. If they were just kidding. The whole last year we were just running this experiment. You know, we're just evil billionaires. We were running experiment. Everything's chill because the other alternative is terrifying. Because this is all real. And you know what it is. We're just kind of getting to a point now where we know they're lying. You know what I'm saying? And they're still doing it.

34:26So we just go where is this going to go? We know you're full of it. We know you're lying. You can't gas light to this extreme. And the whole world is aware of it. And And not have something happen. Yes. But what is it going to be at some inflection point? Well, Netanyahu is up there yesterday. He's talking about Hassan Piker. You know, he's talking about people in the internet. You're on the internet. It's all become. Dude, you just come into genocide in broad daylight. And now you're at the White House lecturing us about what's right and what's wrong and what laws need to be passed. This is wild. This is a wild update right now. It's a wild update. Wild update. And they're like, Macklemore, get out of the stadium. BB, come to the White House. Yeah, come to the White House. This is like more door 1712, the update or something. Like it's a great like this update. Crazy update. It is. Maybe that's what it is. It's just like a iOS update right now. I think you're right. And there's some bugs that need to be fixed. Yeah, Netanyahu is running around his own starlink.

35:27This is the starlink. The bed, the children, dead. I have, he can't even smile. That's a scariest thing about that. But the way he lies and I don't, he can't be human. I don't think he's a human. I don't think he is either. If he is a human, I think that's the saddest thing about him. Is that human people are like, how could something like this happen? One of us be like this. But then he so he must not be. He must be some aberration. Or maybe because I never looked into it. But I could believe automatically the reptile thing. Because I just like that must be reptile. Like that's just because the snake of some description. Yeah. That I don't know is wearing a costume. Because there's no way you can be this person. But what's scarier than him? Because we can just accept he's evil and insane and deranged. And has never been told to know in his life. But then it's the people that we kind of thought were human. Who then just rally around him. People that we worked with. Our colleagues maybe podcast we listened to. And we just maybe in the back of our mind were like, okay, obviously if push comes a shove.

36:27This person is by our disagreements. If the whole genocide happens or a Holocaust happens, this person's obviously going to be on the good side. And then you're going, oh no, wait, what's happening? Now I have to realize that there's all these other people who are trying to convince me this is okay. And then you go, how long have these people been walking amongst us? Yeah. These are like the white walkers in Game of Thrones. Like there was something we didn't even know. Yes. Maybe transformed. They're just like now they're all like marching. And it's a terrible season for now. Because if you game of Thrones, it didn't know what to do. They hit the inflection point. Yeah, they really just just be stuck. Like oh, shit, we kind of started this. Don't even have to end it. It's a terrible ending. Yeah, dude. But it is at this point where it's like now the white walkers are walking and they just been walking for a while. Like when do we stop walking? Like what do we even do? Seven seasons of us walking. I know. We know it's bad and it's dreadful, but they didn't really know how to end it. So I think that's what you have. That's what's going on here. It's just like I think they don't know how this plays out. Yeah, I don't know how it plays out. Unless they put everybody under like in like severe control very fast,

37:30I think that's probably what they would be thinking. I would bet. You know, if you start to let everybody know what's going on. Like with the data centers, you mean? Yeah, either the cameras or whatever. But you have to be able to control everybody really quick, you know? Then because once people, you know. COVID was the test for that, I think. Oh, yeah. And we failed it. I didn't. I didn't either, but we did as a group. Yeah, as a, as a, as humanity, as a group. I did not fail. I didn't. I got a group project though. Was it a group project or was an individual project? We should talk about that. That's a good question. That's important to reflect upon was COVID a group project? Yes. And we did fail the assignment. You're right. As a group, we did. But I was the person in the group that got it was like guys, right? Carrying the group. Right. Instantly. Yeah. So I was crazy. That was going to get grandma killed. Yeah. Grandma's gone. But die. Like, you're like my, and meanwhile, they're have to like, we have to visit their grandmother like, they have to visit in a field from like 200 yards away. They're like using a megaphone and shit.

38:30They're like, we love you. And she's like, my legs are rich. And whatever. They can't even fucking hear each other. It's terrible. She's getting bit up by chiggers and stuff in a field because she's like, that's whether they have to have her or whatever. And they let grandma die alone. I mean, the whole thing was crazy. Zero infuene rolls. People were on zoom. My buddy clicked over. Zoom funerals. Shout out to anybody who was on a zoom funeral. Well, like, can we just have a moment of silence for five of the people that went to a zoom funeral? Because that is just. No, I can't believe I forgot about this. I attended a zoom wedding. Did you? Yes. It was my sister's wedding. I forgot. It's such a trauma has just been unlocked. I'm about to start crying. I forgot about this. It's crazy. Yes. My sister. She had to have a zoom wedding. It's crazy. Wow. Yeah. Because they just said she couldn't, you know, that was it. And so they wanted to get married. They already had plans to get married. So they just had some recording.

39:31We just all hopped on zoom. That's not right. No, it's horrible, dude. Well, dude, I went to a zoom funeral. And it was a black funeral, too, dude. And it was like everybody started beefing because everyone to play their own music at their own house for the funeral or whatever. Like so some people were playing like, you know, like boys to men like can we go back? And some people were playing like, would you torg in with, you know, like so it was just people had to. And so like people started like music beefing at this. It was like an urban zoom funeral. Oh my gosh. And then the guys up there need to even have to be forgotten to speak. We're on a shake. Like what is even, it's like Graham was going home and we can't even fucking. This is terrible. I forgot. I forgot we all lived through this. We all have a lot trauma from COVID. We got a doctor Fauci is going to prison. I mean, this is crazy. Now that we're all here and realizing what we've got. And he's not. He's coming out with a new pasta sauce. Somebody said, if you want a pasta sauce, of course, and you look that up. Is it Fauci with the sauce for real? Can somebody tell me is it Fauci with the sauce?

40:32Yeah, I think he is a new pasta sauce. I plead the fifth. Is it called I plead the fifth? It's called co vodka. It's a new Italian. It's a co vodka sauce. No, it's. It's not. If you like COVID, you'll love co vodka. Yeah, this is it. And it has a booster and it has also a booster in it. Booster, that's that they were discussing that. They're like people are vaccine hesitant. So we're just going to start putting in the vegetables and it'll naturally just like we're just going to give it to you and let us. Yeah. I also don't like and I haven't looked into it. But you know, I'm a vibe person. That whole, they entire announcement that Trump made about. We're going to get beef from Argentine. I was like, nope. Yeah. Nope. Stamp the beef with Argentine. I'm not buying it. Because that's something like. Something like immediate beef from some place that were the, the like rulings of how they can process and stuff are probably different. Probably safer even though. No, buy from American farmers. It's the one thing that people can do. Is it a little more expensive? Yes, it is. And I get that that's hard.

41:33But you know, you and I always talk offline about like, what are the little changes that we can encourage people to make? And that's a huge one. Like getting to know who your farmers are and doing whatever you can to support them and trying to avoid. But definitively, I can tell you whatever is going on with that Argentine beef. Some's not right. Oh, that's. I think they're going to give us more parasites or something. Something is not right with that beef. There, I think they could have been launching some, something new into the community. Because that Tina beef be hit and cut. I mean, I'm the Tina beef is going to have parasites. That's my assumption. That's not the beef got. It's going to have parasites. I because I think we're waking up too fast. And they got to just get parasites in our stomach as fast as possible. I know. Or something. It's going to be a long Halloween. He's random. Such a random announcement. I guess what I'm doing. We got 3,000, 100,000 tons of Argentine beef. And it's going to be cheaper. Yes, going to be cheaper. I'm happy to spend a little more money on my beef. Actually, I want American beef. Yeah, I'll just fast. Yeah.

42:33And I'm saying, I'll do something. But yeah, when you think, when you kind of step outside and look at it, you're like, yes, something's wrong here. This isn't like what's wrong here? It's woke up on a random Tuesday and just decided Argentine beef was, nah, okay. And so such a reverse in everything that he was doing during the first term. Yeah, what do you think happened there? What do you think really happened? Do you think that he was a, like, well, there was always a ledge that he had, like, he's had like a pass that was definitely splotchy, right? Splot. But that's every American really. Absolutely. It was splotchy. That's every American. Right. And there was something even almost relatable about that. Right. And then, he was going to be, there was going to be a possibility there, right? Like, so this is, yeah, this is a guy who was on a TV show. Like, he's at least in this realm, in this rich realm, right? He's always been looked at as kind of a loser in that realm, maybe, by those people. Unless it's financially based. He's always kind of, it's him. He's always been kind of made fun of as an adult. Do you think so? Yeah, I mean, I think we all just thought he was going to, like, yeah, what do we think?

43:38New collar, you know, he spoke like a regular person. And I think we thought that he was going to sort of enact common sense policies. Definitely was going to be anti-war. Yeah. And then 2.0 just hit different. I think what happened was the Epstein files. Really? Yeah, I mean, he took 300 million from Miriam Adelstead. At least now we know how much it costs to buy a presidency. We're all fired of that. If we've got 300 million sitting in the bank, we can just buy a presidency. Yeah. And beyond that, I think the Epstein files are problematic. I mean, when Pam Bondi said that if they release all the files, she said something along the lines if they were release all the files, it would crush the global economy. I mean, that's a pretty strong statement. And I want to make sure I get that right. So you can look that up. Pam Bondi says that if we prosecute everyone in the Epstein files, the whole system will collapse. Fuck. And by the way, that's, I feel like that's kind of what we want. So that seems aspirational, but you have to wonder what's in there.

44:40And I think we don't really need to wonder. We know what's in there. So it's just global trafficking elites, everyone, blackmailed, every politician, blackmailed all over the world. The kid stuff is a component of it. Weapons, trafficking, everything. It's so crazy. That's what's in the Epstein files. It's like this Pandora's box. And the Truman Show people, the White Walkers, as well, like who they're just MK-Oltring and are just in these positions. I mean, that was kind of the wildest part of the Brigitte lawsuit. Was I said one fly away comment of Brigitte, McCrom was born at the beginning of a date that MK-Oltra became a program. And they mentioned it like 12 times in a lawsuit. This is a weird sensitivity. Why are you so sensitive about someone mentioning MK-Oltra? And I do think that a lot of these people are hypnotized. And they're traumatized from their youth. And they are literal white walkers among us. And then they're kind of put into these positions of power,

45:42not based on the meritocracy, like just like you've gone through their program or whatever, the Epstein program, so to speak. And yeah, they... Do you think they go through the program without even knowing it? And then they realize, oh, this is where I am? I think they're, no, I think they're farming children legit, like trafficking children, sending them to certain schools. I hope they're farming them locally. That's all I hope. Yeah, at least I hope it's just not from Argentina. Yeah, I hope it's not. But no, I... Yeah, it's... But that's what's going on. And so that's what we were looking at in some of the series that we were doing was how many times I refer to as the might as touch, that somebody just like pulled through the ranks, that's not actually an impressive person. And yet they were told that there were some genius and you start looking into their past and nothing makes sense. And they're actually kind of dumb. There's a lot of those people. And then they're put at the head of a company or at the head of a country. Yeah. Like, like, manual Macron gets a little dicey, start looking into his past. So manual Macron, that's the president of France. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

46:42And you guys are in a law, are you guys currently in a lawsuit still? Yes. Yes. Is it something you have to keep dealing with? Yeah, you have to keep dealing with it because that's one of the strategies of how the state tries to take you out. It's just a bankrupt, you for asking questions. And with this was unusual though, because I think this is the first time in world history that a sitting president of a country has sued any media person in another country. I mean, it's just weird. I mean, it'd be very strange if like Vladimir Putin sued you. Right. Just be weird. Yeah. No, I don't care what it is that you say about Vladimir Putin. Like, he's not going to, it would just be weird. It'd be weird. You know, you'd be able to think that like, oh, yeah, he's coming to Nashville. We just got a court date with the Obama. Again, we're getting to this inflection point. We're like, hey, man, is this real like the sitting president of France is suing Candice? Yeah, it's kind of weird. It's kind of weird. It's kind of like getting to be like lost at the end of loss or they were just fucking like, you know, running out of ideas. Yes. Like at the end of loss, they just did too many things like the black smoke and the like,

47:45I never saw it, but I know what you mean when the like the writer's room is just the running out of ideas. You just got to shut the show down. I think, and I think lost might have been the original kind of, it was our first kind of TV COVID I think because it was like how much of people willing to go on such a journey. It's lost like a seven year journey that most of America was on. Okay, I was not on that journey. And ended basically crazy. It didn't end. Okay. So it's like, we were with you. We were on this journey and now it's getting weird. So they start to do that and then it's like it, then they make it a little bit more in real life with like something like COVID, you know? I think they've done it in the in the mental health sector too. I think SSRIs were a big thing of depression that coming out. And then like 20 years after that, I think that bipolar disorder was something that was started to be really, really diagnosed all the time. And now it's something I hear like everybody had like, I hear so many cases of it. Can you look that up? When was bipolar disorder? I mean, Frankenstein was like the first sort of doctor Frankenstein or wherever.

48:46But when was like current bipolar disorder? When did that start popping? When did it start popping? I mean, Halloween just going to be it's going to be a good one. Well, people dress up like you for Halloween. For the first century. First century CE. Yeah, but that's just I think like men dressing up like women and stuff. Yeah, because I think the last time that you were on here, we talked about that they that about that lawsuit. Yeah, but just think about how weird that we're talking about a lawsuit with the sitting president of frug. It's just yeah, this is bonkers. They have to they have to end. It's got to be we got to end the series now, right? Because we're getting the the ideas are getting too crazy. How do we go beyond that? Is there a way that lawsuit will end? Like do you guys see an end to it? Just imagine being in the court and you're just going up. Sorry, what is the case? I'm looking at. I don't even know the sitting president of France. Like you're the sitting president of France. You're supposed to like now we can't take a lot of these people seriously. That's also what the problem is with something like this. Is I feel like there was this.

49:48I want to I don't say like a like we almost like respected certain things. Like we thought it was real for sure. This illusion of power at least and the illusion matters. Like we have to it has to feel untouchable. You know has to feel like it could be real. It's untouchable and it's aspirational. And then when you have like the sitting president of France suing podcastes and different nations, you're like, okay, you're not a serious person. Like you're not a serious person. Like you're like the rest of us. Soppist pretense is coming out of the Ellie's a palace. Just forget it. You're just like a regular homeboy. You know, and that's I'm really upset about that. Like we were now we have to realize that everyone's an idiot. Everyone's emotional. And they're all they also happen to be liars. And so for them, they're like how dare you expose me. I have the state behind me. So now I can sue you. And it's like even if you get beyond the lawsuit, like how does this work? Like you're the sitting president of France. Even if you won the lawsuit, what's going to am I going to be shut up here? You're going to take money from my bank account here. Like what's right? Doing talk about realizing that it's

50:48like the entire system is globalized. What are you talking about? And then you have Trump cheering it on. The lawsuit? Yeah. You have Trump cheering it on saying that you hope Prajit trihumps in court. I mean, who knows who controls his Twitter feed or whatever. But have you communicated with Trump about it at all? Well, he told me to stop talking about Prajit called me in February of 2025. I don't even know that. Yeah, because I was doing a whole series on potential massage ties and all the stuff. And I got a phone call from him asking me to just stop talking about Prajit and Sergio Gore. And I'm going, where what is going on? I was a White House care about what I'm talking about in a podcast. And they wanted the conversation to stop. But I think now in retrospect, which I've been talking about the podcast now, I think it all actually relates to the Epstein files. Because the Epstein story is a French story. Galeen Maxwell, this is a French family. And we were getting into like the House of Maxwell and her father, Robert Maxwell, being the central piece. It's deep. And then you realize that his partner was John Luc Brunel.

51:49It was the modeling agencies. It was all French. And so I didn't put two and two together really until after Charlie's passing. The French modeling agent and founder of Karyn models and MC2 model management backed by Epstein, which was financially backed by Epstein was one of Epstein's closest associates. Yeah. So I think we didn't realize what tree we were barking up when we started the series looking into Epstein. And I didn't realize that these pieces could obviously come together if you're talking about a world of trafficking. And I think the modeling companies were a front for trafficking a bunch of people from Eastern Europe. That seems to be the picture. Epstein also was involved in weapons. And so it gives you an ability to do that. And so a lot of these, I look at the fashion industry now different because you expect to see young women. They're like, oh, he's this model from Estonia. And she's 14, but look how beautiful she is. And now I'm going, this was kind of all happening right in our face

52:52as as you start to look through the Epstein files. And he was like picking who was going to win pageants. Epstein won the lottery twice. Talk about us just realizing that's fake. Did he really? Look that up. I want to fact check that. But I'm pretty sure he won the Powerball twice or maybe it was the Powerball twice. Did Jeff ever seen win the lottery? The studies show no official state or national lottery organization. He has recorded a winner by the name connected to a major verified jackpot. Okay. So is that was that actually misinformation? So let me see. Oh, wait, go to Tucker say, for some reason, I feel like I read that somewhere because I you can't trust AI either. I mean, who knows if power ball maybe was power ball. So that's different from lottery or jackpot. I don't know the difference from all these things. But in Oklahoma, maybe it was just one once. But it's just like a bit weird. And so you take a look at that and you're going, what's happening? Are we just laundering money? Is it about children? Because here's the thing in the end, what is it all about? Is it about sex? Is it about money?

53:52It's just about power? Because now like all of it. I mean, the women red sparrow, like I think that they are probably running the most red sparrow. Not that pizza place, is it? Is there a pizza place called red sparrow? Yeah, I think so. Look that up. Oh my god. No, I've eaten. No, I've dined in there. No, there's no red sparrow. What? I've dined in there. That's crazy that there's a pizza. Is that in Nashville? What the fuck, man? Is that in Nashville? Oh shit. It's an Australian. What were you doing in Australia eating pizza? I was hungry. I don't get hungry. Just because I'm traveling. People got to eat in Australia too. I'm banned from Australia. So I can't go. You are. Dude, me and Kanye, I think are like the only people that ever banned from Australia. Okay, hold on. We got a bag of a couple things up here. Okay, first let's get it. And yeah, and I'm not sure if this was, yeah, this may or may not have been the place that I went to. But yeah, thank god. Yeah, anyway, I didn't know. No, nothing bad happened at this pizza place. I was just, I wasn't even referencing a pizza place.

54:55I was saying red sparrow, like the movie. Okay, I haven't seen that. Yeah, I thought you meant red sparrow pizza. They're going to hit with so many reviews. What's going on at red sparrow in Australia? Yeah, bro, sorry, bro. You guys are chill. We're very sorry. Allegedly, allegedly, just a couple of allegedly. Yeah, allegedly. Allegedly. Good day, right? No, respirer, all the movies. Like all of these spy women. Fucking Halloween. That have like been put through the MK Ultra programs since they were kids. And then they're just sent to Mary. Because if you think about that, more broadly speaking of what Courtney Love was saying about the publishing rights, well, power in general. You like, you got to have a way to access power. So you get all these women who are like completely hypnotized to marry these men. Because what's always going to be, you know, biblically speaking, what's going to be the easiest way no matter how much power a man has. If you want to control them, send a cute girl, you know what I'm saying. And so a cute girl looking for sugar or whatever. Yeah, so they like our, this was I think based on like, it was real like they were training. So this is a, this is a book by this guy. The story is based on the best selling red sparrow novel

55:56by former CIA officer Jason Matthews. These are draws on historical Cold War sex be an ash tactics. Yeah. I mean, there's still the shit. It's just Mary a dude. They can just right now, you like you look, you're building a little empire. So they could just send you a wind up doll. And then you love her. And then you just leave everything to her. You know, that's scary. And she's just, she's just like a data center of a woman. She's not your woman. I remember woman. Wow. I think a lot of people are thinking about that right now too. Like, I don't know if I would want something. Who the bleep did I marry? Right. That's the show. Who the bleep did I marry? Yeah. That's scary. That stuff scares me. The idea of not knowing who you marry or what they're capable of, even in real world scenarios, like there was that case that just happened, Caleb Flynn or whatever. I didn't see that. It's just, I don't know what's going on with people. He was having an affair. Of course he was. It's a man Christian pastor, or was at least involved a worship leader. At least he was having an affair with an adult. Was it with an adult? It was. Like, he then wanted out of the relationship.

56:58And like rather than just filing for divorce, he kills her. His wife. And you just go, okay. Oh, yeah. Also former American idol singer. Hmm. It's a dark world. Guys, there's so many other options here, you know? And it is. It's a dark, dark world. But that even, even in the retrospect. You used to home invasion. Yeah. And in the retrospect, what's crazy is her sister, like the victim sister, was comforting him. She's like, I had no idea that he was capable of this. That is so scary. Yeah. And for something so dumb, like you just wanted, you had a fling with a girl. Like that's crazy to me. Just leave the marriage if that's what it comes to. So you wonder what's going on in this person's head? Do you don't know who you marry? That is the, the draw of that where people I think are wondering like, oh, yeah. Some people say why are women attracted to true crime? It's actually because you learn things about people. Do you think that's true? Absolutely. It's a psychology. It's the different mindset of hunters and gatherers.

58:00Like women are different creatures. We socialize more. We speak more from a time that, when speak more words than men from a time that we start speaking, we speak faster. And you have to develop those certain traits over time. It's evolutionary. So women socializing, they communicate and they learn information because they have to be the ones that keep the kids safe and all of you know. So then you're talking to each other like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's crazy. I didn't even think about the possibility that the housekeeper could do this or whatever as you're watching some show. I didn't think about the possibility that a best friend could do this. Then suddenly you're watching somebody else's story and you're thinking, let me make sure that this is taken care of in my household and my kid is not being exposed to this. But yeah, I could see some of that. I could certainly see some of that. I think sometimes when I think I always thought that women watch those shows because they secretly, like, this might sound crazy, but they secretly respect these murderers. What? Because at least it's a guy making a commitment, right? Like say what you want about it. That guy is, that is commitment.

59:01Men and women will never understand each other. That is what I've just learned right now. Men and women were just men are from Mars and women are from Venus. No, women watch it because there's like, it's a draw of like, how could something have gone so wrong? Like, where could it's a safety thing? I don't see. I see a lot of women like, oh, at least that guy's willing to commit to her. Yeah, you killed it. No, that's not the conversation. Like, said he would come over and he did come over. No. Yes, he killed her, but at least he showed up. That is not the conversation that's going on. I always love thinking of what it's like that meme of what guys think is going on in the girls head and what girls think guys are thinking and it's just, we're just from different planets. Yeah. We are. It's fine. We're from different planets. That's what I've realized. Having boys and girls is just, there's no comparison here. Yeah. Completely different. Whatever what's going on in our minds. Guys think we're crazy. That's what they think we're thinking. And then we look at guys and we're like, you're crazy. How are you guys so chill about this? Yeah. And certain regards and it's just hunters. Yeah, we're all just fish passing in the night or whatever it's called. I think it's the ships.

1:00:02Ships passing in the night. Yeah, if fish are passing in the night too, if I wouldn't even notice because there's so much water. But yeah, dude, I'm telling you, it's frickin' Halloween. And to be clear, fish do pass in the night as well. There's nothing wrong with that expression. We can say fish passing in the night. It's fish pass. Yeah. They pass each other. Fish passing in the night. Her, I bet he is thinking of another woman, him. Why do we throw our bait towards the middle of the lake when we fish from the bank, but throw our bait towards the bank when we fish from about. That's a good question. This is Girl vs. Guy. He just. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. If you've thought about trying therapy with our long term partner, BetterHelp, insurance options may now be available nationwide with an average copay for eligible members of just $23 per session. World mental health day is October 10th, but stress doesn't care. It's not going to take that day off. You got to take an active approach sometimes.

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1:02:07he plays soccer or whatever. He got a tit on his back. Or they can't just drop that casually. You can't just say a kid got a tit on his back. They're remodeling it. We have what's soccer. I think it gave him more spacing when they were lobbying for a head or near the net or whatever. But what I'm saying is this kind of, it's all turned into hallow. It's like at the inflection point where it's just weird. It's Halloween, man. Everything's Halloween. But what do you think contributed the most to it? Because I do think that the majority of people, I mean, think through this because I want to make sure I'm not going to regret the statement. But I do think that the majority of people are normal. And I think we see the extremes a lot, right? And so that's one of the things like because my life is very like real. And we don't kind of, I guess, play Hollywood or DC games and we have our front. Nobody knows who our friends are. Like you're kind of our only friend that's famous, so to speak.

1:03:08And we are keep our kids off of the internet. I just feel like my life is very real. And so I know real people. And so I'm wondering if we are also responding to the extremes because we then open our phones and we see like BB Net and Yahoo saying this or someone making a strange, like, I don't know, just doing something insane. And that's what the media is going to cover because they can't cover people being normal. Yeah. So I think the majority of people are normal but the people who have power are eccentric pedophiles. Right. And so they have to keep escalating because they're angry at the normal people are now going, oh, I think you guys are a bunch of pedophiles. And so then they have to be more extreme in their insanity and trying to gaslight us and make us think that we're the crazy people. Like, I don't know. I think about that sometimes. Like what's contributing to it? And they want basically they want to make us think that they're the majority, but they're actually not the majority. The majority of people don't want to put a tit on their back to balance them at soccer.

1:04:11Right. Some people, short. Yeah, some people do. But pedophiles are trying to get that because they want to, it needs to be a new marketing surgery, needs a new thing. That's the problem with Hollywood. Like the illusion of a majority because they had so many fans, but they're not, they're not the majority. And now it's changing. So they got to, they got to turn up the furnace. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you guys are going to be the tit backs or whatever. And you guys are going to be, oh, who's your son play photo? The tin box. Not a terrible name for a team. Yeah. Great. But it's just you're right. It's getting fucking weird. It's turning into Halloween. Do you think that you've influenced a lot of Halloween costumes? Is there any, see if there's any? Oh, is there any Candace Owens Halloween costumes out there? They're probably scared because they're going to be like it's instantly black face. Yeah, I will say this when you have, when you have an artist or when you have like a personality or someone from the world that you like that is black or even dark, dark Native American. I've never been offended by that. I think it's crazy when they're like canceling four year olds and they want to dress up as Moana because they love Moana. Yeah. And then they dress up as Moana and your parents canceled.

1:05:12I was like, come on, man. Yeah. What do you mean? She loves Moana. She can't even spell racist. I know. That's why my kids. It's great because they're mixed. Yeah, give either one. They either want. Oh, that's a slide in Besinterela. No way. Oh, shorty bay. No way. Oh, no, that's a tweet. No, they're making fun of this, this, this, this week's thing where they found a video of me. Okay, it wasn't even, it's literally from my college project. Oh, with the lesbian stuff you mean? Yeah. But that's not, no, let's be supposing for my college projects, but this is just someone just doing a, who is that? Now, what period of your life was this, Candace? That's what I wanted. I wanted to be a police officer. It's actually a very funny long, long video. So this is a real photo? No, it's a real photo. I was playing the police officer for my sophomore year college. I was a journalism major. So you had to like, you know, this is back when you had the video camera on like the early editing in 2008 or whatever. And so your final project was always to pick a topic and then you had to like create a video and submit it. So somebody hacked my, and then you put up on YouTube and I guess I didn't private or

1:06:12unlisted or whatever. So for some reason back in June, June, 2025, somebody hacked my YouTube account from college which only had this video because you have to just send the link to your professor or whatever. Sorry. Is that good? Yeah. I guess somebody hacked my YouTube account last year from, so it's a two decade old video. It's still hilarious. People should actually go watch it. And it was just, we were covering the Adderaw epidemic on college campuses. And we were obviously being, it was, it was sad tires. We were leaning into like getting arrested for this person was a drug dealer who was selling Adderaw. Um, so it's just a video from school. But is that why, because there was something I saw last week was like about lesbianism or something like that. They went from, you ever practice lesbianism? I'm careful. It is. The form of which crop, the gender practice less being. No, of course it was totally fake. It was there, it was their latest like Candice drop. And it was so insane because we were like, what is going on? How are you taking this innocent college video?

1:07:13And so they're like, we hacked this. And then we found that she had a Twitter account. And I'm like, yeah, like what's, what is wrong with any of this? And then of course, if you put it all into cloud, they're like, and then they just pretended that this account, like we can't show you how, but this connects to all of these crazy lesbian accounts from 2008. And like, dude, 2008 is too early. And they made a mistake. Were you been a lesbian? Could you have been a lesbian at that time? No, if I was lesbian at that time, you just go to the bar. I'm going to college campus. Like, you know, you go to a frat party. You don't make like 2008 wasn't a time where people were born. I'm making hang your tongue out of you. You're nothing run down the street. I'm like, this is, I think they just got the, like what are we talking about? People want to make accounts. We Facebook just started. Like, you know, there's people weren't doing this kind of stuff. The world wasn't that weird in 2008. So, but anyways, what was really funny though was they only messed up on one point. So they then like, of course, tried to fight all these accounts. I didn't have, we didn't have a person's face. And it got debunked pretty quickly. But the thing that they forgot, you want to know what saved me? I had a trashy tattoo and a belly ring. And they forgot to put it on there.

1:08:15And I was like, see mom, I disobeyed you. I told you. Dunkin' on my mom, two decades later. I'm like, see, I told you this tattoo would pay off. Wow. Yeah, because they, they forgot the tattoo and the belly ring and the belly rings. Because you know, millennials, and I always talked about it on my podcast on, on at the Daily Wire. She's like, you know, this was the regret because tattoo removal is very, very painful. But they just forgot it in the in the Candace series. And then so the whole thing got clearly done. I was like, guys, it's just different. People weren't, it's just weird. I would say you never, you see, you never did it. No, of course. No, do you know what they were accusing me of? They were, it was like, they weren't even casual. It was so Epstein-coded. They were like this website. She's had six, like six profiles on adult friendfinder trying to find group, like group sex. Group activities. Yeah, like I'm like, people weren't doing that. We had blackberries, man. It was a simple, it was a simple time. We had to, first of all, we had blackberries. And also any woman with a blackberry. BBM. T-mobile was like this sidekick.

1:09:16The sidekick, that was the land of sidekick. That was a lesbian item. I never had a sidekick. Maybe it was a lesbian item. God, be like, I don't know. My mom had a sidekick. Did she? She did. But we're so, wait, was there a photo that's not, so none of the things that they were saying were sexual pictures, right? No, no, no, they, then they tried to like, like, there was no sense. It was totally schizophrenic. But it was lesbian, Candace, and see what it is. Yeah, so they tried to put up this photo. I was holding it in the half of the WNBA. So we can't do that, dude. Yeah, so then they tried, that photo in the corner. And then they, let me see it. They didn't know I didn't have a, they didn't know that I had a belly ring and a, a tattoo. So then they tried to go back and be like, whoa, Candace, is that you? And they ate me, unfortunately. Who is that? So then they found the photos after of my tattoo. And I was like, y'all are, you guys already fumbled the ball. You can only do the fake, you can only try the fake porn thing. And once I was like, you missed the trashy tattoo and you missed the belly ring. And then they found the photo, actual photos of being college. And I had a trashy tattoo. Oh, dude, when you're in college, dude, every, who is, I couldn't name 75 people.

1:10:17Also men when I was in college, I weren't lesbian. First of all. But yeah, I mean, everybody, dude, what was it, Burnett's bro, you hang your tongue out the frickin, just out of a moving car window and something will run across. It was literally disgusting. It's just a different. But I mean, I kind of benefited from just, I was always just very honest with my audience about like, I talked about the tattoo regret, belly rings, the like, Christina Aguilera phases, drinking in college. And I think that you get this like, that's one of the things that I think I benefited from is just, I've never pretended to be this perfect person, you know? Like, I mean, I, I mean, I, you know, it's all normal life. Yeah, it's like you're gonna have a normal life, right? But like then, like going to like the sex route and like trying to pretend that people are prosting on your, it's just, because I don't support Israel, like it's just like, we're getting a little crazy, you know what I mean? Like there's something about that that I was like, it feels, I don't know, like not, what just feels cheap. I mean, I feel, but it's like it goes back and you're trying to edit my character. It's like, I've already told you the flaws. Like you don't need to, you know, and like to try to sexualize things is crazy to me.

1:11:18But. Well, I think we're in a different time where you can't use those types of things as much anymore, right? Say you were somebody that had, that had even dated a woman, who cares? And say you were somebody that was having, going through a tough time and was, and was like, involved in like some sort of sexual thing. So what? Like people are human people, right? Yeah. What somebody then also said is the new thing now, like I, we're also just lucky that the internet wasn't what it is now. But someone was even saying that now what they do is they get these like, you know, they'll be these like data leaks and they'll be able to find like an old password of yours. And so then they'll go, this great thing didn't happen to me. And they'll, but they'll like access dormant accounts and then they'll create profile, like they'll create a digital profile for you. And you've never even been on this website. So now it's getting very sophisticated and people just need to be careful on the internet. Like and maybe that goes back to my point earlier about me just not wanting to put my kids out there because if you're putting your kids out there on the internet and your public, how do you know they're not already creating fake identities for your kids?

1:12:18You know what I'm saying? Like pretending your kid has a TikTok or whatever it is, just using a dormant account and creating a whole profile. Like there are entire profiles of me, profiles of people, you know, good fan profiles, but then there could also be profiles that are not fan profiles. I hate you. I saw one. There was one of you. I think it was somebody who'd send it was like dark farmer women or whatever. Bring that one up. No, do not. Is it was it? It's not illegal or anything. It was just like, it was like kind of a farmer's only dating thing or whatever. Oh, farmer. Oh, it was darker. It was darker farmer women or tan farmer women and you were like the most tan on the hair. Yeah, it was just a conservative female dating side or something. What? I'm a cow on darker farmer woman. I don't think it's a bad look. No, that's so bad. It's like, pull it up. You make it sound very negative. No. It's a good place for people to meet people, especially in Murphy's birth. There is no way. Are you kidding? I'm not kidding. I know I saw this. Or you know, you go through, you just like, you scroll and you see stuff, you know. No, then she has to actually find. See or dark. Yeah. Or like the Hog any farmer or something like that.

1:13:20I don't know what that terminology was. Sorry. Wait, so is it like a website dedicated to black farmers literally? No, it's a, it's like it's sort of like a urban farmer dating side, I think. Or it's not urban like city or urban like black people. I mean, whatever you wanted to be. I don't know. I've never heard of this. Okay. I think it's black people. I don't know. Why are you on these websites? I'm not on them all the time. God. I'm just trying to do my best. Yeah. This side is not bad. It gets, I gotta get it. I gotta get a family. You gotta get a family soon. I didn't even know about this. And this is how you get one. Sometimes you gotta go, you gotta search or you gotta shop around. There you go. You learn something new every day. An urban farmer's like, are they using my photo? That's for real. No, it was somebody I think it could have been something that was fictional. Who knows what's real anymore? Oh, oh, oh, yeah. I don't know about that. Yeah, I was like, I thought you were saying like you were on the website and there was a profile for me. No, I saw a profile, but I don't think that it was, it wasn't a sexual thing. Black female farmers, former dating. I didn't know if this was a thing.

1:14:21Single farmers dating, okay? I love this. Let me see. Because we need more black women and look at this white woman sneaking in, even the third woman. This is crazy. I didn't even know there's so many websites. Like, oh, there you go down there. Let me see a woman of a different breed right there. I'm that special lady. Pull up. What are you doing on this website? Huh, I'm just looking to see what's online. That's so crazy. Wait, she's not black. I'm saying, somebody's girl would be trying to late. That seems like a bot. Some of these dating sites are so bots. And who is that lady? I'm a professional high fashion model. That's how it starts right there. There you go. Right there. That is hilarious. And that's your Epstein bot right there. It's dark canvas. And I'm talking about the women. We're easy. It's dark out there. I think we all just got it. It's some of us too much online sometimes. It is. And I was even, because we were just talking about it now. Like the millennials, we kind of carved it all out. And even the earlier dating sites, it was so much more innocent than people were on

1:15:23like e-harmony. They were like commercials for it. And then I was telling my producer, Ashley, I was like, even when Tinder got started, my friends that were on Tinder, they, it was, people would go on dates and it was normal. And then everything became so sexual. I feel like in like 2012, things kind of went down the drain. And maybe a little later, it was like 2015. I don't know, there was like an innocence to the internet in the beginning. And then it got very dark and sexual and weird. And Tinder got taken over. And then it was like Netflix and chill. And then people kind of migrated and went to Bumble, was they were trying to get out of that filth. And now it's just like, I can't imagine trying to date at all. Like it's just really, especially online. Like they just don't know. Like everything is so scary now. Well, yeah, in the beginning, it was kind of like casual. I used to be a lot more innocent. And Google used to be real, by the way. The results that we got back, there were so many different options. And then I feel like we stepped into like a totally different era where everything now is like fake, fake and gay.

1:16:24Like I always say, it's just fake and gay. You're like, okay, what's real? Are these like, there, we just got bots everywhere. It's trying to tell you what to think. Google is no longer giving you every answer. It's like telling you what the answer needs to be as soon as you answer. You can't even trust the first answer on Google. You actually should just dismiss the first answer on Google. And then you have to like, use to have all of these options. And I try to explain to people, I'm like, the internet is now fake. It's just everything about it is a veneer. Right, it started to almost digest its own self in a weird way. But they got, they got smart and we're like, no, we need to tell them what to think and not show them what other people are thinking. Wow. The dead internet theory, that is 100%. I believe, I believe that. The dead internet theory is an online concept which suggests that the internet is now mostly controlled by automated bots and AI generated content instead of real people. I agree. X definitively. I mean, X is just a bot form. I knew it was gross. It's so gross. Dude, X, what did Elon do? What happened? Because it is the sickest place. You don't even go on anymore. I don't even know anybody who goes. It's just like kind of a trashy spot where people are trying to sell meme coins.

1:17:26Let's just be honest. Twitter was better when Jack Dorsey ran it. Wow. We got it just dropped. We got to drop that right now. But do you think that something happened where then like the people, maybe Elon bought it and then they just, like haters bought so many bots. Like do you think it's bots or do you think it's bots? They're obviously fake profiles. I mean, I remember at the like inflection point when they were really trying to get Trump to go to war and Trump was like, I have 100% support in their poll. Like a ridiculous poll that's so obviously not true. But I remember Michael Knowles, he tweeted something and he like ran a poll of like, do you support the Iranian war? And it was like 100% of people supported it. It's awful. That come on Twitter and that you can see sometimes where they launch all these bots and the trends are completely controlled now. So like you will never see a bad trend about a Zionist. And then no matter what people who are anti Zionist do, they like try to clean it up and like go after people. So they're controlling the trends, the bots. And I don't know why he allowed that to happen because he kind of came in like, I'm

1:18:29going to rescue X, but you know, maybe it wasn't a good business deal. And so he's just, you know, cuts some deals on the side. But everyone knows that it's bots. But I will say this because I don't think it's a bad thing because people are aware of it. So I think now we're kind of becoming like antibiotic resistant. I mean, like they're trying to send a number of orders like, okay, this is obviously a nonsense. Nobody actually believes this. Nobody believes these charts. Nobody. Yeah. Right. So it's a good thing that we now realize that the internet is dead. Like a dead internet theory is real. And yeah. But now what happens from here, because here's the thing, say if there's these higher, like dark powers and they control everything, once people start to look up and just not be stuck in the confusion anymore, right? To realize that, oh, everything's being controlled. It's all kind of so much of things are a myth. You have to immediately control all of them or they'll get out of the cage.

1:19:29You know what I'm saying? Then that's where we're at right now. Right. That feels like, yeah, I don't think you know what to do. They're like pouring more of it on and it looks even more ridiculous. Yes, bizarre. It's like, yeah, we know people don't think this. What are you talking about? We know these are bots. What are you saying? That's what I'm saying. The average person doesn't think like this. So I don't think they ever thought through this plausibility that there would be this awakening this quickly because it did kind of happen quickly. We went the last few years have been, I feel like everything's gone faster. Everything's gone faster. The evil is gone faster. The hope is gone faster. I think more people are kind of like hopefully, hopefully heading towards faith and trying to find that maybe this is the time where it's just another time in history where you realize that maybe this is something that brings a lot of people back to faith, you know? But even faith is getting exposed. Like the faith grift, so to speak, has been exposed in some areas for sure. I think over the last three years as well where you got these like pastors who are like whipped jeans and trying to relate and now we're like, wait a second, you're totally just

1:20:31a government. You're like calves for Christ. You'll see those guys doing like a workout or whatever. Like these calves are for Christ. You know what I'm saying? Christ. What pocket of the internet are you in? I've never seen calves for Christ. I've never seen black farmers. Like where are you right now? What are you? What are you having for Christ? I'm on my own. I'm on my own. I'm on my own. I'm on my own. That's for Christ. I've never heard of this. But I'm just saying Jesus, he might have been able to hold himself up on the cross if you had these calves. No way. There's a lot of dark stuff out there. I just got to like jump into your entire algorithm right now. You're seeing things that I'm just not seeing on the internet. But yes to your point, I was talking more about like the mega church sort of cool pastor that like relates to you and all that stuff. Well yeah, I think everything can get corrupt, right? It's like, but he goes very scary. He actually started corrupt like some of these mega churches because when I, yeah, I mean, the kind of money they're bringing in, I'll tell you where I was my moment where I said, okay, this is something's going on here. All right. I don't know if we're drug trafficking. What's going on here with these mega churches?

1:21:32Who's funding them? Was when Joel Austin Plummer went to go fix a toilet at his mega church and he like accidentally hit a wall and found $300,000 cash. You're lying. I'm behind a toilet. Let me see. And then Joel Austin comes out and he's like, oh, there it is. Like. Oh, there it is. We didn't really, 300. That's, you know, you hate, I hate when that happens. Why accidentally lose 300 K behind a toilet. And I'm like, are we all accepting this answer for like 300 K cash found in like, I think something else is going on here. I don't know. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. If these walls could talk, they say, hey, I need to get to a bank. Look at this. This is real. The plumber was Justin Cully. A plumber named Justin Cully found roughly 500 envelopes containing cash, checks and money orders hidden in a wall behind a loose toilet at Joel Austin's Lakewood church in Houston on November 10th, 2021.

1:22:33The old loose toilet trick. Yeah. Yeah. Let me come over there. You heard you got that loose toilet. There's a lot of dissolution there. The church stated that the original stolen amounts had been covered by insurance and that the recovered funds were inventory. So you're telling me it was stolen and then someone just put it in a behind a toilet. What would be the purpose of that? Sounds like laundering. It sounds a little bit like maybe we need to be investigating that a little further. Houston, please confirm that the serial numbers and dates on the recovered checks linked to the stash to an unsolved March 2014 burglary were 600,000, about 200,000 in cash and 400,000 checks. The burglary, the story of the trying tells right now was reported stolen from the church safe. So you stole it and instead of just walking out with it, you decided to put it in a toilet. I don't think that happened. I think there might have been something going on inside of the church and then you filed for insurance and you got money. And then of course on Sunday when they find it and it's a whole scandal, it's just like, oh, praise God. Praise God. You know, praise to say to Anthony and there it is.

1:23:38There it is. There it is. I'm going to be accepting there. My money has come along. They're over there filing off their fingerprints. Yeah. I'm like, guys, come on. I've been around. You don't just find 300 K behind a toilet. Different times. But yeah, I was like, okay, these mega churches are getting real mega, you know? Well, it's all, everything is like, that's the thing about it's like, I don't know. It's a, everything's a tough balance to take care of yourself and not to get to and not to get caught up, corrupted. Yeah. It's a Halloween, man. It's turning into Halloween. Yeah. Yeah. What are some good Halloween costumes? I wonder. What are you going to be for Halloween? Probably Brigitte's Weiner, probably. Brigitte would be a great costume. Brigitte would be great costume. Would people be McCroen's Weiner? Halloween has anybody ever been mad? Is that a crazy thing to say? I don't think anybody don't think so.

1:24:40I think they'd be throwing jail. They don't have free speech in France. In France? Yeah. We're headed that direction. They don't have free speech in France. That's why the journalists that like covered the story had to like move out of France. Not. Yeah, for eight years Xavier Poussage work on the story. The cover was just coming after him. Have you ever spoken on? Xavier Poussage, yeah. He's the whole basis of the podcast I did was his work. So he's the one who he's the real hero of the story. I mean, he was, you can't, that's like old school journalism to commit yourself to one story for eight years and people aren't used to it because we live in such an ADHD society. That's been like me of the Charlie Kirk case. I just haven't let it go. Yeah. And it's, it's how journalism used to be. You don't just cover something for five seconds and then just dismiss it because you can't, if it's actually a case or something that big, you have to read the document, you got to follow what's going on. You have to know the characters are a lot of characters. Yeah. So I want to ask you about it really quick. Let me see this says, France has freedom of speech, but it is not absolute and comes with

1:25:42specific legal limits. So you don't have freedom of speech? Freedom. French people trying to be tricky. So you don't have it. We have freedom of speech, but it's comes. Polevoo freedom. Exactly. You like take that statue of liberty. I never been. Man, I honestly, brah and no disrespect to the French brah, but I've never really been a big fan of the French brah. You know, I will say and just find with me, huh? People. People in Paris are not like the people on the rest of France. It's like a difference. It's kind of like judging all of America based on New Yorkers. That's fair. Or more like L.A. People. I don't know. My favorite place in the world is in France. So it's called ANSI. Can you look it up? ANSI. What are you doing? I thought these places. I was corrosion. I had a lady at the time and we was corrosion through there. Is this the basil lady? Netflix and chillin' no different girl. No. My old girlfriend. ANSI, yeah. Can you see just the downtown? Campanée. It's just a small place.

1:26:42Wow. Beautiful. It's a little town over there. Yeah. Get your little chocolate. You must have really liked her. It's like being in that show chocolate. You remember that movie? Yeah. What happened? Oh, I don't know what happened. I think I was a... It was you. I was cheating probably. It was you. It was you. It was you. Just being just a weanerhead. That reporter was amazing. That what? That reporter in France and... Was he? Yeah. Did you ever have him on your show? He. Yeah. So I actually went out and interviewed him in London because I just couldn't even comprehend the idea of dedicating yourself for eight years to one story. Do you know what I'm saying? and then having to move your entire family, there's no upside for your family. Like he's... So they made his family move because you were... No, he was getting chased by the government. They were doing things and they went after every single journalist that tried to cover the story. Which is named Picard or whatever? Xavier Pousard. Xavier Pousard. Pousard, yeah. And he just did the most amazing work and had to wait years even when he was filing for things that he rightfully was supposed to get.

1:27:44I mean, it's like me right now trying to file FLA requests. And the government just keeps telling us, nope, doesn't matter. Don't have to answer. Don't, you know, and so he for eight years he fought them on this Brigitte story and the book, Becoming Brigitte, which I based the podcast series on is amazing. It's absolutely amazing. So... So this is the guy who's... And what are his major beliefs? Major beliefs in regard to... In regard to all of his research, the whole goal of the research is what? Is it just to... And he's never been sued by the way by Brigitte. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. He's never been sued by Brigitte for defamation. It says, if you're supposed to publish articles and subsequently a book, titled Becoming Brigitte, that amplified debunked online... See? Debunked online hoaxes, it's just not true. That's why you can never trust the AI overview because it's just the government. So you're saying that what the AI overview here is saying is not true? Yeah, it's never been debunked. So never been debunked ever. And the regrets says really quick. That amplified debunked online hoaxes claiming Brigitte was born biologically male, these false narratives subsequently gained international traction

1:28:45after being shared by various commentators and media figures. Looking at you, Candace Owens. But what really happened? For him, they never sued him, but they came after his business as, you know, it's a squeeze. Like I was talking about one of the mechanisms is they'll try to bankrupt you, kind of terrify you. They went after other journalists on the case and sued them for defamation. Never on the point that Brigitte was born, Jean Michel Trogneau. My lawsuit is not about whether or not Brigitte Macron is a man. They always... And that's what they do is they try to win these cases on a technicality. Like she's suing me, like I said, for mentioning MK Ultra, for saying that she stole her brother's idea because she didn't steal it or whatever. So and say, accusing somebody of theft is accusing somebody of being a criminal. And that's basically what they did. And then they tell the press, and so the press runs Candace Owens, being sued for defamation for calling Brigitte a man, read the case. I'm not being sued for calling Brigitte a man. But people, we never go read the case. Nobody reads the case. And that's the problem with the press. And then what happens is you then go on to AI and it scrapes.

1:29:49And so it's Candace Owens is being sued for saying Brigitte a man. I'm not being sued for saying Brigitte a man. Fuck. She's never sued anyone for saying that she was born a man. And... Do people think that she was born a man? A lot of lawsuits are like that now. It's just for PR reasons to say that you're suing over something that you're not suing of the entire... Because she's got a small frame. I don't even know if she could hold a wiener up on if you had one on her. Pull her up. Brigitte's old now. You know, Brigitte's like 80 something now. Pull her body up a little bit or not her body. Don't do it like that. But just pull her up as a tall person. Do not pull up Brigitte's body. I'm going to strongly say, project. Do not do that right now. Yeah, get that gander right there. But everybody couldn't hold a strong frank at all. I'll tell you that straight up. The case is absolutely fascinating. The real wiener right here is that dude next to her. Who is that fricking? One of the most protected people ever, Brigitte. Like is she really? Is she really is the question? Do you know how it is really she?

1:30:51Or is really he? If he's he or not to he, that is the question. If these vaginal walls could talk, you know what I was saying? It's like they wouldn't say work because they're not here. The little crazy story, but Brigitte. I'm not taking back anything that I've said. That's for sure. We can all be wieners. Exactly. It's just that the Brigitte story is crazy and see a little wiener. I'd fucking keep that bitch on me, bro. If I was a woman, I wouldn't mind having a little wiener probably. Like if you if you were what you couldn't, if you were a woman, right. But if you had one, I keep that thing on me. Keep that drake on me. Yeah, you would pull it out every now and then. Yeah, I sense like, hey, I'm a set. Something your hand guess what it is or whatever. Dude, do you think this is a new game I like to play with people is? Do you think you don't want to play that game? Okay, so let's follow up there. It's could you draw your wiener from not even looking at it? Just guessing what it looks like.

1:31:52I think it would be an awesome contest to have you had people. And you had like a hundred people. They draw their wiener. They don't show their wiener or anything that is draw their wiener. Whoever gets closest wins almost maybe $2,000. This is the thing where I say women and men will never be able to understand each other. Why? Because I don't I don't think that that's a thought that's ever crossed the mind of a woman thinking about what men could think about. Oh, yeah, a little Lena contest. A little art because I think we don't think it's like it's hot dogs. Yeah, we know competition. Oh, I see. By Aishi consuming as many rich women. They want that wagoo Frank or whatever. That's it. So this that competition. I'll talk about the Lord's Lincoln log. I'm talking about that body wiener. Anyway, let's move on. Sorry. You have done a lot of research probably maybe more than anybody on the Charlie Kirk case. I have. Right. And I'm sorry about the loss of your friend. Thank you.

1:32:52I've seen this just some just you being able to share some emotional moments over the past year talking about him and some of you guys's relationship. What is the one thing about the case that you just can't get over, right? Like what's one thing about the case that keeps you up at night that has you believing like there's something else going on here. So if we're talking about just the facts of the case, though thing that everything fell apart instantly was when they said that his neck stopped the 30-odd six bullet. That's so it's so crazy that we shouldn't be required to have to argue it. It's so it's from 150 feet away. It's it's just nutty. Yeah, I think that's most I think that to me that was most people's like this is a red flag. Some things not right. Yeah. And then I would say on the broader aspects of the case, the personality surrounding it is the lack of transparency from the organization that's not run by his wife.

1:33:54Like that's kind of people are learning things about what he was going through in his last days from me, Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson, and it's just seems that the organization has done a complete 180 from what he was going through. And so that would be the most alarming, I guess social aspects of the case is what's happening. Obviously last week the UVU finally released the independent review. So that's Utah Valley University. Yeah. So for a year they outsourced the Lake Forest Group to go through the see what went wrong that day. And so we have been told from his wife from people that all of these things happen because UVU did this Brian Harpull went on Sean Ryan and said the rooftops weren't covered because of the chief of police. And here's the text message. And then what it exposed was that they were they were lying about everything. And so that that's the reason why they've just been attacking me all week is because the UVU review independent review came out and everyone should read it.

1:34:56Like I always say, don't ever take my word for stuff like I'm telling you what is in it, but you should also go independently look at it because it's it's shocking of, you know, they were the ones turning point USA demanded that he be outside and the university said, we don't recommend this. You shouldn't, you know, this is not a good place. Is that true? Yeah, that's 100% true. Why did they want him to be outside? Very claimed that it was because Charlie loved the amphitheater set up. And I don't doubt he liked amphitheater set up, but I think when we now learned that the night before he was worried he was going to be killed. Like and if you, you was saying we you should not do this. And they're forcing it before they even knew what the event was going to be their main thing was it has to be outside in the amphitheater. I don't think Charlie was right or die amphitheater. I've done UVU with him. We didn't do it in the amphitheater. Hold that up. Can you find something specific about that, Trevin? You could find it in the, yeah, the UVU independent review. And you could just search it courtyard is what they call it and throughout the courtyard.

1:35:58And so when you realize that the insistence was coming from turning point USA and they tried to play it the opposite, then they dedicate two pages to just debunking everything Brian Harpall said on the Sean Ryan episode. And most clearly you report does. But it's and this report is not there. It's an independent outside group that sits in Chicago, Illinois. So do you believe that this report is a is reliable or not reliable? They everyone participated from the feds, the local police, UVU. The only people that didn't participate was turning point USA. So they had to go off of turning points public statements and like they went off of Brian Harpolls into a charm Ryan and Brian Harpoll is the security. One of the 13 security members that were there that day. That's right. I saw one Sean Ryan and he's talking about. And so he kind of got out in front of it and said all of these things like we he said the opposite. He said that they told us the event has to be here. Then we find out and they put in text messages, emails and talked like they there's it's not like they're just saying trust us bro.

1:36:58Got it. It took a year. The outdoor location insisted upon by TPSA for their event created significant protective operation considerations. The speaking area was located in an open access campus environment surrounded by buildings elevated space pedestrian routes and multiple vantage points. UVU UVU personnel recognize and responded to some of these concerns including the hall of flags outdoor pedestrian walkway above the speaking location. However, the planning process did not include a documented line of sight assessment. So they had emails and then we learned that it was turning point headquarters that requested this event to happen, which was a major question that we had. Who requested this event so like late in the day couple of weeks before when that's not how these events typically come together and it turned out it was turning point headquarters not even the student the student chapter didn't say hey can we have Charlie they were like. You're getting Charlie and so call the school and see if that and you know so the the so turning point approach the school about him being there. Yeah, they wanted the school typically because you know used to work for them the students request they'd say what speakers they want to have for sure.

1:37:59And so then they they're working making a request headquarters like I want Candace I want Charlie I want whoever's on the roster and they try to make it happen for them because obviously we can't do every school and they it's kind of like a reward system how to know how well did your chatter perform this time uniquely. Headquarters reached out to the student chapter and they put the guys email in there because he's like my field director just reached out to me they're being vague but they want the courtyard is it available. Got it so that's a big problem but wouldn't Charlie have had something to do with that like saying this is what I want like was he part of T.P. At the turning point headquarters. I can just tell you my experience working there is like they the students give all the requests there's a meeting about what events you want to do sure if Charlie would say like I really want to do like the big ones the big three like Berkeley Stanford and UCLA we did those because you know they're going to be like really fun events. This but those can they cannot come together this quickly is the point because they have you're fighting with the administration they don't want you there as a conservative on campus they want to make sure things are safe they make all of these specifications they can only be this many people.

1:39:05And so we gluten free so people are wondering also why there was no ambulance on standby while it turns out this there this report reveals that the president was like headquarters basically filled out the form they told them there's only going to be 600 people. And they ticked no on needing an ambulance so every single security measure that seems like a crazy thing to put yeah that seems crazy to put that why would you say would you say yes and the ambulance in general what if there's seven people around if I'm even swimming with two my friends all have somebody around us if it's an option yeah right if it's an option and I was saying that I had never done an event where there wasn't an ambulance on standby. And and I worked with them for years so all of these things and if they had been forthcoming if they had been not gaslighting us for a year they had been like we reviewed our product of turning point USA came out and was like we made so many mistakes you know we actually were the ones who told them not to have an ambulance instead they were like on a high mighty horse like high on her own supply UVU did this the police chief and it turns out the police chief of UVU is the hero of this he kept being he was the one that said oh we're going to need more people there's actually one your show no he hasn't spoken to anybody but they they try they basically tried to blame this guy for a year and he was the only person that seemed concerned about

1:40:23Charlie safety they never he tried to meet up with them on the day of the event they never did a walk through for the September 10 TPS event the director of emergency management and safety assigned to UVU emergency medical services personnel both were EMT technicians trained to provide pre hospital emergency medical care before patients reach a hospital. EMT's may deliver non invasive life saving interventions and help stabilize patients to emergencies. Yeah elsewhere where they talk about the forms and they checked off no it is important to note that the EMT's could not transport patients including Charlie Kirk to the hospital no ambulance was staged on site for the September 10. Yeah, but it tells you elsewhere why there was no ambulance and it was basically like once you book the event then there's a form that they send you and the person who was the student chapter head didn't get it done. He did but they said no so it's like you why would why are you telling the public like your some victim. Of what you view did when you guys were the authors of it and they also control ticketing so you view.

1:41:24When they say oh it was under staffed they never when the police officer on September 3 asked them how people are coming they never told them numbers. They knew how many they were the only they were head cores was in control but you said you view was in charge of ticketing no they weren't are they weren't turning point USA. They requested to being they did not want to use the university's ticketing system. I mean it's a damning report you I mean you have to read it's crazy and it really shows you how manipulative they've been over the last year and their communications to the media saying that they want answers not part why would they not give me one reason they would not participate in this. Like in the beginning it lists everyone that participated from the feds to the local police to the EMS I mean these people are giving their text messages their emails allowing them to investigate for an entire year what went wrong there's no reason in my mind that they would not participate in this unless they knew that their hands weren't clean. And I saw one person trying to say well it's because there's a pending suit this is not about Tyler Robinson this is about the lead up to the event and what safety measures were taken and what went wrong and why ambulance was not on standby this is nothing to do with them going into the for right.

1:42:28And going into the forensics of Charlie Kirk being shot or what happens. TPSA preferred to hold the event in the fountain courtyard and use its own ticketing system rather than you university system. And they blame them for not having enough security. Those decisions place the event in an area that was more difficult to control and limited UVU's availability to obtain reliable real time information regarding anticipated attendance and crowd size. UVU should have retained decision making authority over key security related issues including venue selection ticketing access control and other conditions necessary to support campus safety. It's unfortunate to the mostly for this university because this is probably university is just trying to you know just trying to grow itself and you know keep it together. So place it obviously a lot of people come to that they wanted to hear a speaker and be a part of something. Yeah and they were told there's going to be 600 people turning point never updated the numbers and then there's 3000 they wouldn't give them access to the tickets and the police officer was asked to. On September 3rd and Dan flood said he didn't know how many people were going to go be there and that turning point headquarters controlled it.

1:43:30Who's another good source outside of yourself to talk to discuss to like go through a lot of this stuff with you think. I you mean like just independent investigators or people I feel like the only sources are people that are investigating this independently because it feels like we've just been. The Department of War has been protecting this narrative and lying to everybody and the journalists have been so dishonest and everything. But I really love the work of appreciate the work of Baron Coleman and he's done fantastic work looking into different areas of the case there are so many YouTubers that have just done fantastic work. I mean from being on the ground pulling the warrants seeing what happened that day and it's crazy that we would expect for Charlie's wife who is at the home of this massive organization that she would dedicate an entire department to doing this right and nothing. One to accept the narrative 10 days later was back in the office and everyone needs to move on in fact explicitly there their team members which I haven't shown the.

1:44:34So TPSA doesn't have their own private investigation going on except the narrative fully. Do you think Tyler Robinson did it I do not believe Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk do I believe that he was a part of some broader thing that was going on that day. Was he around the campus yes could he potentially be guilty of you know the charge of hiding clothes which people said that he was at the area Queen doing that absolutely concealing evidence and things of that nature. Absolutely do not he's not the person on the rooftop the nobody shot Charlie from the rooftop of low Z is where I'm at. And so I look into alternative theories of whether or not Charlie was hit closer by whether or not it was on him. And something explosive went off that makes more sense to me based on the injuries that Charlie has and the impossibility and how quickly they tried to hide the footage behind Charlie's head which would have shown the public that the bull didn't go through. Well so bizarre that immediately they went and took those cameras took the cards out of those cameras yeah and specifically the one behind a set and that's why because I I believe they were going to tell the public that the bullet went through because they were going to go through your six narrative.

1:45:44And then along came Candace and I'm the one that revealed that it didn't and that's why they have been have so much animosity toward me because it from that point on they couldn't control the narrative because you were asking people to believe the impossible you're like pigs fly that's it. And they can't prove that so I to them represent the complete unraveling of the narrative that would have been fine and people would have believed that the bullet went through and now they have to say that bullets do weird things and that next do weird things and. Right are people are saying yeah bullets do crazy stuff they'll stop by their girls house on the way to their wherever they're going you're like what the fuck like what is even. What are you talking about like is this is a 30 out six run for the yards like it's not going to it's an into a neck of all places like if you maybe you could get there if he got shot in the sternum or like you know a neck. Come on man. I want I want to read this theory this is the one that to me that stood out the most the exploding microphone theory is an unfounded conspiracy claim suggesting that conservative activist Charlie Kirk was killed by an explosive device attached to his microphone rather than by a gun shot.

1:46:49If you looked at whether what there's more evidence of is that something was on Charlie and hit him and he was hunched over and hit him right in the neck and it actually created a shallow wound. But it hit his artery obviously exploded we then presented the evidence which was never supposed to be seen of what the car looked like and you see just what looks like black shards all over and so that's. So you say that yeah can you get me this travel. Okay thank you so much it should be just a simple like it's a road RODE exploding microphone theory but again going back to our point about Google like you this shouldn't be hard it's a pretty big theory that's out there but there's like this is not true this did not happen that is the reason why they put that AI overview because that's the state's narrative. Do you think that that this could be the reason not Charlie Kirk specifically but just overall right that that's why AI is so important so fast right now because they are not going to be. Because they need to be able to have a complete control over the information it's a deleting of all old information anything it's not written a book anything it's not entered into AI's won't even be able to be usable or searchable anymore so imagine they're kind of doing what was done like in Cuba like.

1:47:56Delete a file right once it's out it's gone forever so they're kind of like and then that kind of locks you in to this whole new space of information and once you start to believe which you're only able to search for then that's where you'll be stuck forever like once they can delete the past yeah and all you have is this fictional narrative of like of this current or semi past we're going to be like that's what they did never ending present that's what they did in Cuba they got rid of all the books in the 40s that's what they're doing in Gaza yeah they're getting. Yeah they're getting that's what we're doing in the Middle East is destroying ancient ancient. This is getting rid of history they want a world where they can control and we're going to live in ever present that's yeah that's dystopian but that's where that's what they want but I think it's now being stopped because people are aware of it and having the conversation of what's going on right now why don't I recognize Google like it used to just be able to Google that and then the first thing that would have popped up would have been John braze video describing the theory because that's the thing people have watched the most and people this is a big theory so that should be if algorithms are fair at the top right that they give you the AI model which scrapes the mainstream media which is controlled by the state apparatus and they give you this is a debunk brazee mcrowvis is a debunk yeah I know we know exactly everything's debunked and so you're just getting the department of wars narrative

1:49:15and so you have to know how to research and this is why they they're trying to get a handle on podcasting because it's disrupted the state media and you know the I guess you could say the monopoly the state media had on ideas and it's because what they're saying doesn't make sense I mean how many times and in part by the way the reason why we got here was because they overplayed their hand during COVID so we don't trust the mainstream media yeah. You don't get to do that twice you don't get to now then do COVID and then try to Charlie like Charlie Kirk us to like you don't go COVID to Charlie and then be like start repeating the social distancing save lives you know save wear a mask save lives like 30 out six can do strange things and it's like 30 hours not working this time. Yeah some of the bullets will do back flips now it's like these new like kind of like Jamaican bullets and they'll back flip on the way to the destination yeah. Yeah. Like what it's a fucking bullet. They're like no it's a new Jamaican bullet mine. It's fucking it'll gamble on the way through the destination.

1:50:17And then also comments actually try to rob it and stuff is like people generally don't do nothing and then do murder and jump off of building. First off jumping off of a building. Yeah. It takes some guts. Just try what it takes to jump like the first time just go without looking down seeing if you can. Oh yeah. If I even get on the third step of my steps do I get a little bit nervous. Pull it up see how far that jump was but leave this up. I want to read this road a this road theory real quick. Do you have that road mic theory? It alleges that the wireless microphone transmitter on his shirt often identified online is a road wireless pro contained a small explosive or shape charge rather than Kirk being killed by a rifle shot. And to be clear I'm not saying road did this someone tampered with their mic and wasn't there wasn't there a connection to Tennessee because they had allegedly. Yeah. So I have never covered that because there was this sort of mysterious explosion of an AES plant which did manufacture. The like accurate energetic systems was the name of it the online theory of this Tennessee manufacturer connection.

1:51:22It says that if Charlie Kirk's apparent road wireless pro unit had been weaponized the explosive component could have originated from AES because AES makes specialized energetic products. AES is acute energetic systems which is based in Bucks Norton Humphries County Tennessee. The more elaborate version specifically claim AES had a contract involving miniaturized anti personnel. And they did they there was there was a contract that was shown to make a small explosive. And so people have covered that and then this it just explode the whole thing you know what was October 10th. Right and then that whole facility where some people alleged that the microphone that was that are the rigged mic make the rigged microphone. The rig microphone was it then points to a deadly AES facility explosion. So this place one month after Charlie Kirk was killed this whole place blew up as supposed evidence of a cover up or destruction of records. Yes. And everyone died. I think there was only two people that survived that were in that particular I mean there was multiple.

1:52:26I never covered this because I always wait until their piece of information where somebody who I don't know maybe a family member of somebody who worked there but they definitely they contracted with the army. And so it definitely was weird. It was weird the timing of it was weird. But a lot of people have looked into this and said what's going on here. And again when everyone around the situation is just accepting the narrative immediately 10 days after with no questions and wanting to move on. That's not that obviously the public is going to sniff that out and go this is not normal. We have questions. So how do you not have questions? Right. Yeah that's a thing. Yeah that's a thing. Like nobody to ask our questions anymore. They're just like that's it. It's really sad. He's gone forever. We're going to do this big memorial and we're going to be really happy and we're going to be dressed up. We're going to celebrate and then we're going to move on and his wife has the company if you ask any more questions. You should be in prison. You should be locked up. You should be sued for defamation. That's not going to sit well with the public. Yeah.

1:53:26And so they've kind of they sort of come undone because people are still asking questions. Yeah and this is right here on September 23rd AES received a 120 million dollar firm fixed price contract from army contracting command. Rock Island for the procurement of TNT. Some people are saying that some of this order could have had that some of that funding would have been part of that funding could have been connected there somehow. What is I mean it's Halloween. I'm MacRone's Ween. Oh I'm the ghost of Charlie Cook. I uh what is oh here's the guy jumping off his building. I just feel like if you're not like the first time you just kind of would have some you'd be a little more concerned you know like am I going to make this jump sort of a thing. Never been to this campus before you know what I mean that's a pretty big jump. It's pretty big.

1:54:26Was he an athletic guy though? No. No. Huh. Then guy Fisher. And we was he allegedly a homosexual fellow or not. Yes. Hmm. A lot of Gadoos can jump pretty far now. I've different. I meet. I did. Yes. I just say yes to that. Times are different. You got a damn bro you got a damn. Yes. You have a f**k. Yeah I know Gadoos jumped damn six feet. Hmm. You ever realize that you spent your entire morning thinking about lunch? It's 9 a.m. and somehow I'm already in negotiations with myself about how much spend $20 on a sandwich at noon. And then I eat it or you eat it or who somebody eats it and then an hour later you just stay in the kitchen worrying about what you'll do for dinner. That's one reason why I've been into Hule. The black edition powder is a complete meal you have instead of food not a shake on top of food.

1:55:27The powder starts at less than $3 per meal has 40 grams of protein and mixes with water or milk in about 30 seconds. I like Hule's shakes because they're clean and it's quick. Sometimes it may I just want to make sure I have everything I need to keep going the way I want to keep going in a healthy manner. So with Hule basically lunch went from a daily logistical problem to a thing I can solve in about 30 seconds. Make healthy eating simple. New customers get an exclusive offer of 15% off online with my code weekend at Hule.com slash weekend. That's h-u-e-l.com slash weekend. Thank you to Hule for partnering and supporting our show. What is the strongest piece of evidence that supports that Tyler Robinson did this so that everything isn't- The state's strongest piece of evidence is the text, the alleged text messages between him and his lover. And I find that not to be compelling because his lover's testimony was pre-recorded in a way that they would never allow.

1:56:30You know, it to play out like it's only because there was this basically hearsay clause that they could just use hearsay. They could not ask him any questions back. You know, the defense couldn't like question him at all. And so he just recorded his testimony and said these are the messages where he fully confessed to the crime. That seems suspect to me. I don't care if you're a drug dealer selling like a gram of pot. You're not going to fully text a full confession. I did it. Here's when why how it was totally crazy that you would try to get away with it but then also Texas full confession and then lands that to his lover is. Or his boyfriend was is granted immunity for this testimony. So it means he can say whatever he wants and he can't be liable by the courts. Why does he need- why does he need use immunity? Yeah, why would you- why does that matter? But why could it matter? Look at it from the other side. It could matter because he could need immunity because maybe they would what think that- No, the story is he just did this randomly. Lands had no idea. So if he was implicated in some way of like I gave him the nope.

1:57:30It lands as he slept with the whole thing. Slept with the whole thing had no idea he was going to do it. Dude, if I know this, I have some gay family members and pretty semi gay or whatever. And they- I know this. If my- if one guy is out there shooting somebody or something, the other guy is going to be up and milling around having a Celsius. No, he says he's slept with everything. He's clutching his chest or whatever. He really found out and he got these messages. He was just, why did you do it so stage? It's like every single answer. It feels so fake. Yeah. And that was also the problem. It's like it's like he said one thing like, hey, need to see you. Let's meet up and then he tells a story that like when they met up, he told him what he didn't person. And it's like people don't believe this. Like who texts every layer of a confession. Here's where I did it. Here's how I did it. I was wearing- if it just feels very- Because what I was wearing is what a gay dude would text to his buddy though. Yeah. Like I was wearing this or whatever. I think he did say in the messages that he changed or whatever. Like never shooting somebody again in this. Yeah. I changed outfits. It's like exactly with the page of like, hey, we gotta have to- these are all the holes.

1:58:31Can you just put this in the message sort of a thing? Zoom in on, let me see. Yeah, give us your motive. You know, it's like every single piece of it is right there. Give us your motive. Some hate just can't be negotiated. Shouldn't be long until I can come home. But I gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you. You want the one who did it, right? You weren't the one who did it, right? I am. I'm sorry. Oh, that's very sense and sensibility, isn't it? Like I loved him as he loved me or whatever, you know. That's very William Bront, tell you whatever that guy's name is. Why run? If you're just gonna text a whole confession, why run? Right. Why run? What are you running from? Why are you a dairy queen? I think you were gonna get caught writing an entire novel describing where you were, how you did it, what you were wearing, how you changed the clothes. I'll never shoot someone again in a javinci jacket or whatever. It's great. And even down to the outfit, like he's discussing it. And so when people saw the messages, these sandals do not go with murder.

1:59:32I'll tell you that for right. I'm waiting just around the corner trying to grab my rifle. Is that what he says? No, they grabbed some crazy old dude. I'm interrogated and someone's similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from the drop point shortly after. But most of that side of town got locked down. He's not writing all this. The drop point. I mean, could just comment. The drop point to most gateds is a place to buy a little bag, maybe in some popper so you and your buddy can get wicked or whatever. Sounds like a cop is writing them. It's like, okay, what do we need now? Motive. What do we need? Drop point. Oh, what do we need? Like, you see it all coverage. The public cannot ask any questions. Why'd you do it? Who? When? Where? Why? How? Yeah. And then he just writes it. It writes it all. And so these messages didn't write a story as real. This is there. This is the state's strongest piece of evidence that he did it. And then his buddy, first of all, I'll say this is boyfriend doesn't really give a fuck. Like, he's over here writing. That's the other thing. I just told you that I killed someone and that would be right. Right. His buddy's like, who else knows or whatever? Stay safe, he says. I wouldn't even answer because I wouldn't want to be implicated first of all.

2:00:32First of all, I'm not answering. You're right. Yeah. Even if my best friend, taxman, has murdered somebody, I would be like. Phone off. Yeah. Didn't receive it. I'd be like, oh, fuck, hold on a second. I got another call or something like that. Yeah. I would do something. I would be like, I'm going back. Yeah. Cause I'm just like not texting that. I would do this one. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And that is it. Maybe two of those. There's no way I'm texting back. Common Sense to me says, I don't know what this but I'm going to find another friend talking about it. Text me, this is crazy. Like, I'm not. I'm not being like, stay safe. Or I love you more zis and muam muam muam muam. Muam muam muam. Okay. That is. What are we talking about? Muam muam muam. What? Muam muam muam. Drop what you're doing. Look under the keyboard and they said he hand wrote a confession but then he burned it for somebody burned it. Drop what you were doing. Look under my keyboard or whatever. Yeah. And that's could be a UFO message too. And that's a full letter that he allegedly wrote and said I did this. But then he burned it but then also then wrote it in a text.

2:01:32So why write the letter? The whole thing just doesn't make any sense. Right. Why did you have Lance on the boyfriend? Lance is protected by the feds immediately. Has viral protection. So the witness protection. But does it you can't find him do you think? You know. I mean, people know where he is. They know that he's in Texas but he's just, he's, I think he's the person who was much more involved in this. Oh, you think so. You think Lance got to Tyler early and somehow even was able to help him get in a position to be set up to where he is. Yes. So he's access to all this stuff. They're roommates. So you could get his stuff, drop it wherever. Is there a picture of Lance anywhere? Yeah. Dude, that's crazy. Can it. What if that's it? I do. That's my sense is that Lance is and I think generally he's much more involved. I think he's blackmailed who's, you know, troubled kid. He's kind of the personality you're looking for. Like troubled kid and like into the furry community, which is like you create an avatar of yourself. So there's some. I don't know. Really is. You know, you should have personality. Quate. Definitely got in a lot of trouble.

2:02:32It was passed around from his family members, volatile, you know, was addicted to drugs. It was into weird internet stuff. Like he's, if I'm CSI, this is the person, the profile of individual that we'd be looking for. And, you know, there's a whole and toe blackmail system. So if you're on doing weird stuff on the internet and yes, that's Lance. I mean, what is even fucking going on? And what is he wearing that car? It's like a, that's a furry thing. Oh, they just said these have been on airplanes a lot. This is unbelievable, dude. What is, can we get any other pictures? And do we even know his last name? That's him in the court hearing, like the pre-recorded testimony, which the defense was a lot to ask many questions because it was a preliminary hearing. So it looks like a show. It feels like a show. What are the side effects of, oh, the Lance twigs. So that's him too. And now he's out. Now he's on survivor. No, what? Yeah, I think I just had all the picture of him.

2:03:36Which survive, which team was he on? Shooters twink or whatever. Was he team shooters twink? What has even fucking happened? He's weird. It's all weird. It's all weird. So it's Halloween. So it's all just the tech, Candace, for not accepting, you know, ruining the narrative, I guess is what it's supposed to be. I ruined the narrative. So by like, by sharing, like bringing this narrative to light, right, that like people think that something else happened, I do believe that people think something else happened, right? Because it seems so. Usually if there's a shooter of somebody that's a big thing, the court case is a huge thing where you're seeing all of it and you're like, they're like trying to get like information from the guy and everything. And it doesn't, none of that's even happening. It's almost like it's just disappeared completely. Well, it's the actual hearing has to now has to start. So they had the preliminary hearing, which basically is just probative. And they say, well, we have enough evidence to move it forward. And so now the trial of Tyler Robinson will begin.

2:04:36And so you'll be able to go to the trial. I'm not going there. I'm not. There's no chance I'm going to Utah. I will follow it. I will watch it live. I will do what I do. Take notes like I do with the preliminary hearing. You put nice in there. I think there's some weird stuff happening in Utah. Oh, yeah, dude. I'll tell you there is because I took an electric bike. My brother lives there and I e-biked about two miles from his house and saw some stuff. But what's like the two minute version of like, what do you think happened to Charlie Kurt? I think Charlie was taken out by the deep state. And it was because of his shifting views on Israel. You do? Yeah. That's my opinion. And do you think his like turning point USA people knew that? I think it's hard given everything that we now know a year on. It's the way, like again, they're lack of engagement and also blame lies like Brian Harpole told it's hard for me to imagine a scenario where no one in that organization knew or peripheral to the organization knew.

2:05:36It's hard for me to imagine that. You'd have to have an insider kind of. I think so. Because otherwise why not be instantly forthcoming? I mean, they get I'm speaking to common to common sense here. It's yeah, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide. So when people, if you said can is what were you doing on September 10th? Here's my whole phone. I was I was sitting at the table with the team. We were working on the show. Savannah came downstairs and told us that Charlie had been shot. And then we stopped every, you know, so I can't imagine a scenario where they try to go well because the hearings, you know, the hearing is going on. That's why and people can't be forthcoming. What would the truth? How could that impact the hearing negatively? Either this person did it or we didn't. So if you have can as someone's his text messages from that day at that time. And I say, well, I'm not giving them to you because it could, you know, potentially put the case at risk. That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. How could it put it at risk? It's going to introduce a fact. That means that Tyler Robinson's innocent.

2:06:36So for me, everything that he was going through, the way they even lied about that, the Israel shift. And I just feel like people only lie when they have something to hide. I do not think everybody around him has their hands clean. And I think again, that's largely I've been vindicated on that opinion with just the UVU independent review. Like Brian Harpel, what's up, man? Why did he lie? Do you think if he lied? I don't know. Why is he suing me? He's he suing you? Yeah. And he's saying that you fabric that just that there. I mean, there's a bunch of claims, but among it, he stated that I said that I found his interview with Sean Ryan to be unconvincing in any lied. Well, now you have a whole independent review that says you lied. You have the UVU police chief that says you lied that you misrepresented the text message that you weren't even involved in the text message that you presented. So you, what are we supposed to think?

2:07:37He got confused. What do I hear? If he did that, why would he do that? I wonder why would you go on Sean Ryan? One of the biggest podcasts in the world and and think that you're not eventually going to get exposed for misrepresenting things. Did Sean think that he lied? He seemed like it or did Sean think he seemed like a believable guy. I think Sean just thought this is a big case that he wants to talk about it. And he just sat there and let him talk. And I'm glad he did. I'm glad he did because it seems wild. If you didn't want to say why even go say anything? I don't know. You know, I'm saying like if you don't believe what you're saying, but maybe you've used reporters wrong. Do you think it could be? I think there's some. No, I don't think that report could be wrong because they again, it was an investigation. So they described in the beginning what they did. How many hours went into this sitting down interviewing, reviewing the messages? Who was the outside group that did it? And we got to get you. We got to get you out of here soon. Lake Forest Group. Illinois. Lake Forest Group law firm Brownstein, Hyatt Farber and Shrek.

2:08:41Oh, donkey. Conducted by a consortium of independent experts, including the Lake Forest Group. And then that law firm as well. Who owns Lake Forest Group? I wonder just curious to see who they are. I think it's like Bane Capital actually or something. Bane. Totally positive though. I mean, everything fucking Bane Capital is doing the job. It's all this crazy thing. Michael Verden. Verden. You never know. I mean, it's, it's all interesting. Oh, 21 years is a US secret special service agent. What if he'd be an interesting guest to talk about that stuff with? Hmm. So it's yeah. And so like again, why wouldn't they participate in this review? These are the questions that people have. Why wouldn't turning point USA? Yeah. Yeah. You've nothing to hide. It should be like, look, and I would have instantly gotten in front of it and been here some things that we did wrong. There's a level of arrogance at the organization too that I think is making people sick. Do you think that they're happy that you're always out of like, that's a crazy question to say?

2:09:41What do you? Do they look happy at the memorial? Yeah. It's kind of crazy. Some of these are fair. Some of what they've done has been kind of crazy, you would say. Absolutely. I mean, they look happy in some of these instances. Yeah. They seem mad now because I feel like the public has turned on them, but like right after the assassination, they were very bizarrely happy. But do they still have a huge following? I was confused. Like, how big is the following that it's like, no, it's collapsed. Oh, it has because people are curious what's going on. It seems a lot. People know when something's not authentic. And I think they are blaming me for that. And it's like, no, guys, we asked you really basic questions. The whole world was on your side myself included. No one could have imagined a scenario where this organization would collapse within a year. And it's because of their own arrogance. And now they think that they, you know, we're friends with cash betel. We're friends with harming Dylan and the president. And that should be enough. You know, we got, we're with the president now.

2:10:42It's obviously not enough. You need to be forthcoming with information. You need to be, um, how about exercising some humility saying what you did wrong off the bat would have gone a long way. And they're not even speaking about it at all. They don't care. They're just like, we've got power. We are the state now. That's the vibe, right? From TPSA. Mm hmm. It's a call my friend Vance. If you have a, you know, if you have a question and then JD Vance, you mean shame on you guys for not believing air because emotions like we're just kind of getting like the wagging finger all the time as opposed to answers that makes sense. Well, you met up with the right after it happened, didn't you? Not right after, but about four months later. Sorry. And that's when I changed my perspective, like my perspective on talking about or going after just because she was then doing the public rounds and she was telling lies, like she initially said, or you can say she didn't know, but she said, I have his phone and he was not worried the night before. And now that story has been debunked and she hasn't come out to clarify or apologize.

2:11:45Exercise humility. Yeah, you know, actually, canis was right that the night before he was, text some people concerns. That's the arrogance that I think makes people sick is that you send out all of these bots and people to attack me and to attack my family, you know, to create narrative after narrative about George and Candace because you don't want to tell the truth. And then the truth comes out and your response to it is to attack us again for being right. That's that's that's not going to it's not voting well for them, but they're not trying anything different. So do you are they suing you or no? No, trying to point it was not yet. I mean, are you in lawsuits against other people? No, I don't. I just tell the truth. I'm not suing anybody. You know, law fair is not like thinking I'm going to crush you. I'm going to bankrupt you. Tell the truth. The truth is enough, man. Just Candace said this. Okay, actually, here's reality. That should that should be enough. But when you don't have an answer to the truth, that's the route you go. I'll bankrupt you. I'll destroy you. I have lawyers and high places.

2:12:47I have the president on my side. I can get him to tweet that you're the most vile person of the year. That's the mentality. It's capital. Yes, it's like it's kind of just a dark side of somebody having so much capital. Like it just keeps you and you keep making you go to court things. Yeah. What what do you think? So like with Charlie Kyrgyz specifically, there's so much information around it. You've done so much research. Is it does any of it? Is there any way that the research helps affect anything in the actual case? Or do you think this is just for public knowledge kind of? I think for sure. Some of the things that we brought forward that call into question, the timeline. Was he in language? But like will his defense attorneys use any of this stuff? Like now they have to start looking at all that stuff. So that before it was too early for them to use it because this is the prosecution. Oh, got it. And they're basically saying to the court systems, we have enough probative evidence that this case should move forward. And you can do that with just hearsay. Now you're moving to the trial.

2:13:48So their initial job of the defense is to just get as many charges dropped. And you're basically just saying to the court at that time, the state should drop this because of existing laws on the books. You know, they didn't fulfill this. Didn't fulfill that. They did this wrongly, whatever. They're not making an argument. They're not actually defending Tyler Robinson yet. Now that the state said, no, there's enough evidence to at least move it forward. Now they have to go out do the research and issue a defense of Tyler Robinson. And I would strongly suspect that a lot of the things that we have presented and discovered will be used or come out naturally, of course, and in the course of things. They will that's their job. I mean, if they're if you're a good defense attorney, your job isn't to just like follow people's ideas. I mean, I don't know if they're going to explore alternative theories, but they're definitely going to have to get into the timeline where he actually was. If there were other people that were involved, other people that could have been did is this Tyler Robinson on camera or is this somebody else, right?

2:14:49So we'll see a lot of that. So weird place existence. Real quick, where you go, Peter Teal speaking in town, you know this. Did you hear about this? Yes. He's been doing some weird stuff. Yeah. What about the anti-crash? Did you think about because there's part of me was like, let me go see what this is. Just even see what's going on. But then I was like, I don't know if I even want to be around that energy. Part of me also was like, let me see if he would podcast. Just just talk, like say, hey, everybody thinks you're like the scariest or like, or I don't know, it's like, do you, if you think somebody is like, devious, do you talk to them to ask them what's going on? Like, what is your school of thought? I feel like, yeah, I think you should just ask him if he's the anti-Christ. Peter Teal draws hundreds downtown for anti-Christ. He's been, he's been on this for years, just so you know, hundreds of going across the world. Oh, I didn't know that. Yes, he's obsessed with the anti-Christ.

2:15:49A big part of why I'm doing this series is because I believe it is dangerous to focus on just one risk. There's one existential risk that nobody seems to want to discuss, which I would like to add to the list if we're going to enumerate existential risks. And that is the risk of a, of a total Terry and one world government. But why are you saying your part, helping us talk about the risks? If it seems like some of the stuff he's allegedly attached to would be the one, would be the stuff leading us towards that. That's the point. There's a conflict of interest here. And that would be a great reason why you should interview him and ask him. And even them Teals host, a Masonic lodge opened the evening by distancing itself from the content of its talks. It's like, it's just a lot happening. I saw it and I was going what on earth? Again, we're at that inflection point. We just are just what's going to get. It's too much. Well, look what it says here. Hunt described Nashville, Davis Hunt, a conservative act as a Vex and Blogger. Described Nashville as one of the last remaining regions in the Western world with authentic, authentic Christian beliefs where it still thrives.

2:16:51When's that baby? When's that baby popping? Hopefully today you're lying. I don't know. The baby, you don't get to have the baby doesn't tell you. Shot it cook, man. You got to get short. You get shorty to cook fast, getting one of those red light therapy things. What do you think that'll make the baby come out? Yeah, are you kidding? No, to have you had a baby using red light therapy. No, but imagine that thing. You do that thing is going to have nice skin for 2000. Do you use it? I don't use it. I'm thinking about getting one. OK, I don't have one. I've never done the red light thing. I know that's like taking off, but you are already you guys are big. Are you talking about like, wait, which red light are you talking about when people just put on their face? Or you don't have a full thing? They have a whole bed. They have they do have the face. I never done the bed one. I thought that you were talking about the bed one seems kind of cool. I mean, or yeah, or even just one of them. A lot of people are just like putting it. There's even leggings now that allegedly have it. There's like all kind of bullshit. I mean, look at this lady. What pocket of the internet leggings red light therapy. Those red light leggings or whatever? Never heard of it. It's supposed to keep your knees from sagging or whatever. I'm like, who the fuck's knees are sagging and who gives a shit? Yeah.

2:17:52Just sit down. Yeah. If you bend your leg, your knee doesn't sag. But yeah, people are just bonkers. But yeah, I just didn't know. Are y'all using any sort like those, well, George massage your stomach at night? Are you guys doing anything to try to get the baby? Like, is there any like kind of like, whenever they're ready? You know, it's something you can really, it's like, it's ready or it's not. It's like putting a chicken in the oven to either cook or it's not. Yeah. Do you get cooked? Do you feel cold? I feel like I have an oven that runs a little cold. Some, some women always have like, it's like 36 weeks. I'm like, man, your oven runs hot. So lucky. Mine's like a little bit like right on time or like a little cold. And I'm just not okay with that right now. So I'm hoping that I'm doing whatever. What I'm doing is I'm doing your podcast. And then I'm going to go do to Dylan's pod. The podcast and I'll be expecting results. Tim Dylan is the bad. There's nobody like it right. There's nobody more entertaining than him right now. So funny. He's just so funny. He gets away with it. Yeah, he's just exceptional.

2:18:52Mm-hmm. He really is. And he does it. He just, he kind of does it all perfectly. Will this be your last baby? You don't know. I don't know. I'm Catholic. I say it's the last baby, but you know, I don't know. You know, Catholics Catholics are crazy. And if you're cute, that's what's weird. Yeah. Right. I feel like if you just had some kids that were like not adorable and funny, then you'd be like, okay, let's just. Yes, not what's in it for me. Yeah. I agree. Any any unique experiences while you've been pregnant? You got weird dreams. You get pregnancy dreams and they are on point. Like you get like visions when you're pregnant. I like that. Yeah, women will tell you my, like if my sister's pregnant, she says she had a dream about something. I'm like, uh-oh. It hopefully it's a good one. Bad one. You definitely dream a lot more. And that's because there's obviously some association between dreaming and hormones and whatever, but that that is interesting. You start to like, I'm at the point now where I can almost see the future, you know, get some weird dreams. I had a weird dream last night.

2:19:54I don't know what it was. It'll come to me. It was a very strange dream. Can you smell anything? I used to know this lady because when she was pregnant, she could smell copper. She smelled copper real strong. A lot of women have like super strength. No, unfortunately for me, that doesn't never happens, but you will get a whiff of something and be super nauseous. That's for sure. But, uh, yeah, you sleep fully. Do you have to sleep when you're stomach? No, it's exactly what you shouldn't do. That's exactly what you shouldn't do. It's exact opposite of what you get to know. You get because you can you sleep on a ball? No. Can you sleep on a basketball, Theo? No, I don't know, but I don't know what you guys are doing. No, I'm saying I'm trying to think of what gets it to come out. I think about how you would look if you slept like you. You're just like a bo-sue ball of a person. You're about, I'll tell you that thing. It'll be out in a half hour. It'll be out. I'll tell you that for free. It'll be out exactly. Is there any smell of something like can you smell a certain thing that would help? Like I'm just wondering if there's like some old wives. How's he looked at some of that probably of what?

2:20:54Of like how to get that? Oh, you can induce labor with cast oil. Oh, you can? Yeah, I did it for Louise. No. No, I evicted her. She was sleeping the whole time. She wasn't there for one appointment. Oh, yeah. And she was, it was Tennessee, July. She was overdue by a week. I said, good bye, girl. Bye. No, I walked outside one day and it was like the heat was violent. You know how it gets down here. And what do you just rub it on your belly? No, you just take it. So I took, um, I took more than they even, they suggested one table spoon. I think I did a fourth of a cup. Yeah. She flew out. It was my best birth. Oh, I'm fantastic. I told my doctor I was doing it. I was like, as he knows, I'm like crunchy in those ways. And so I don't like, don't do it. Come take our medicine, our patotan. We'll do it. Like no, best birth, one push out, slip and slide, cast a oil. Oh, um, girl, I love that. Yeah. She was out. So she just got evicted. I tell her, I'm like, I promise with her, I would still be pregnant today. That's how she gets down. So she was only going to get evicted. Uh, happy early Halloween.

2:21:55Thank you. And if anybody does do a Candice costume, please tag us so we can look it up faster. Oh, yeah. That's a good idea. I know what you're going to do. I feel like I'm so boring, but yeah, I mean, I would be pregnant. That's a good point. I think that's the pregnant be pregnant. Be black. Yeah. Do a darkish wig or see if you could get a hold of some darker. Span. Go on to farmers. Um, black dark and dark and farmer. Darky. I think it was dark and farming. Or as Mahogany soil goddesses, I think was another one. I got to look it up. Um, yeah. Um, thanks for hanging out Candice. I appreciate you. You are so welcome and give a hug to George for me. And I'll see you all soon. See you soon.

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