
122. Eternal Optimism & Applying Psychology to Life with Kurt Malkoff, PhD
Get every episode summarized
Each time Innerspace: Deep, Meaningful Conversations with Brett Kaufman publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
About this episode
Today’s guest on the Gravity podcast gives us another fascinating look into the complex human mind and how it works. Kurt Malkoff was born in Youngstown, Ohio, to two restaurateur parents that he says gave him everything but limits. He has a BA, MA, and PhD from Ohio State University, is a clinical psychologist, and the founder of Matrix Psychological Services here in Columbus, one of the oldest, independently-owned psychological practices in the country..
We discuss how he went from being an uninspired student to a passionate special education teacher early in his life, a move that directly led to his long career as a practicing psychologist and successful entrepreneur.
He explains how understanding even the basics of psychology can help people build and manage teams, thoughtfully comments on the state of social unrest we’ve landed in as a culture, and emphasizes the importance of work-life balance, especially as one gets further into their career.
Kurt’s the kind of person, as he explains, to print a line of good-natured smacktalk on the back of his Pelotonia jersey. Communicating with such warmth and authenticity, he’s a tangible source of real optimism – a quality I can’t ignore in the interview and one I know you’ll pick up on, too.
What we cover:
- Kurt’s loving childhood and restaurateur parents
- Leaning into special education
- Back to graduate school for psychology
- Understanding human behavior
- Melding psychology and entrepreneurship
- Iterating yourself throughout life
- Building efficient teams using psychological studies
- Landing an ideal work-life balance
- Kurt’s POV on the current social landscape
To learn more about intentional living, and for the complete show notes, visit: brett-kaufman.com
Resources:
Gravity is produced and published by Crate Media.
Get every episode summarized
Each time Innerspace: Deep, Meaningful Conversations with Brett Kaufman publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
Hosts & guests
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes
More from Innerspace: Deep, Meaningful Conversations with Brett Kaufman

Alec Shankman: Start a New Line
Innerspace: Deep, Meaningful Conversations with Brett Kaufman

When You Finally Listen to Yourself | Five Innerspace Conversations
Innerspace: Deep, Meaningful Conversations with Brett Kaufman

ASK ME ANYTHING, PART TWO | Brett Kaufman
Innerspace: Deep, Meaningful Conversations with Brett Kaufman

ASK ME ANYTHING, PART ONE | Brett Kaufman
Innerspace: Deep, Meaningful Conversations with Brett Kaufman