1208: TM Europe win the '26 Solheim Cup

0:00I'm gonna get the right club right. Be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about it? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different. With the novel and Thomas and Headen, welcome in to No Laying Up Podcasts. Sully here. In the dumps, I got the blues going on. There was an official blue tsunami today, T.C. It was a very Hosella afternoon. It was a blue tidal wave. It was a blue from the start and it continued all the way through.

1:04It was that four match stretch in the middle there. We'll get into it. We're going to break it all down. Cody is here running the ones and twos. Hello to Cody. Hello. Happy to be here. And I am actually happy. We're predicted this. Sully, come on. We can't be down in the dumps. 15, 13. Called it as you heard last night here. I think you're unanimous. Yeah. 15, 13. That was not the prediction I had going into the week. But I think we just kind of saw it last night. It did not feel like, you know, wasn't a dead cat bounce at the end of yesterday. It just didn't feel like it was going to be sustainable all through singles. We are going to go through Sunday at the Soulheim Cup. We're going to look back on the week that was right hand out of some grades. Some interesting press conference quotes. Yeah. We're going to visit some of that. We'll do some second guessing. Like we do every time on these Sunday recaps after team events and tying official bow on the 2026 Soulheim Cup. We did not get to watch much of Shane Lowry's 11 shot win. I'm good. It's coming across my desk at the Irish open.

2:04But we will chat briefly about that. P solo second. P solo second. That's got TC very excited. I know the live bankruptcy filing was out this week. Not been a big focus for us. But we are going to go through some items that Sean Zock wrote about earlier this week as well. So that's our run a show for tonight. Tonight's show is brought to you by title list. The number one ball and golf and the number one ball at the Soulheim Cup among the majority of competitors who teed up a title list in the Netherlands this week. We're probably one players. Lynn Grant and Allison Lee, the only two players to go a perfect four and oh, you hear tour players say it all the time. It's so important to be playing the right golf ball model for your game. Title says several ways to get yourself dialed in from the online golf ball selector tool. Virtual one on one consultations with certified title is golf ball fitters all the way to in person golf ball fittings. I'd like a soft golf ball. I like a ball that doesn't spend too much and I like a ball that flies lower. It is very easy for me to get fit right into the pro v one. Hey, hey, you're probably one player as well. Big time. We do have a lot of us.

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4:05I thought she was class all week. And you know, had off to to Angela Stanford as well. I thought she was she ran a clean program this week and had some some challenges, some obstacles to deal with. And it was like I really enjoyed this week because it was truly about the golf. There wasn't a bunch of other extraneous bullshit going on. It was like, no, like this is high level golf. The women competed well and. Like the setup was awesome. The course was awesome. Fans were awesome. There was no controversy. It was. It was just a good clean week of golf. That's that's like what we've been asking for for the last five years out of this event. I mean, I would ask for a little bit of controversy to spice up tonight. Yeah, we had the angel stuff early in the week. We got a little bit of the green speed stuff. I guess a little bit. We tried to drum up something. I don't look out into me in the press conference. I turn it into the detective. That's the most press conference questions. I've ever asked, but I can kind of tell you know, there was some things that Angela wanted to get off her chest a little bit. I tried to help her a lot of the way we'll get into into some of that as well.

5:06I thought Carlota, say, gonda had maybe the most interesting press conference quote. She was asked by Brent, I was getting ready to ask this Brent Lee Romine asked what happened yesterday evening. What was one moment that was the most motivation for you coming out today? And then what is the feeling to be able to get revenge like you did? She smiled and said, I was really happy to see that I was playing against Cup Show. She's a fighter. I'm a fighter. And I told her, look, great playing. I mean, even yesterday what she did on 17 and 18, but today I knew she had no chance. I was like, I want to kill you. Just, just, I love that was the highlight of the day to me was that quote from Carlota, say, gonda. Carlota, she's, she's got that edge, man. You know, she's, she doesn't say a whole lot. She doesn't move quickly, but she was with decisive action. Yeah. So yeah, we, we will break down, you know, kind of go, we're going to match by match here and do a tiny bit of second guessing. But as, as I think we'll kind of get to, it was, we just, it just never felt like the US had the horses.

6:11It felt like they were pretty fortunate to be eight eight as of last night. Just didn't love how the draw shook out. I will, you know, do some second. We did some first guessing. I think we could say last night of sending Megan Kang out first, sending Angel Yen out third. Megan Kang drew Charlie Hall first, Angel Yen drew Lynn Grant. I think there's a case to be made from a strategy perspective of if you get even a half point out of one of those two matches, that's a win. You're predicting maybe again, if I'm putting myself in angel Stanford shoes, you're predicting that Europe is going to go strong in both of those spots. And trying to find a place where I hate to say this way, but Angel Yen can kind of be a sacrificial lamb. She was completely uncompetitive this week. That's not the worst draw. I mean, she got drummed by Lynn Grant who did not even play well today. And then Megan Kang in that opening match, it was a gamble. It was a gamble and it was a, she was a captain's pick. That's a different, different spot than Angel Yen. Angel was kind of saddled with Angel Yen this week. It was a captain's pick for Megan, Megan Kang, her question, her putter was extremely questionable coming in.

7:14A lot of player with people close to that team that's all they were talking about was how she was not hitting the whole one four foot puts. And it was very bad. It was extremely bad. She had a straight eight foot putt. I believe on the seventh hole today that missed by two cups. And I said to you guys, if I had a single putt that missed by that much, I would switch to the broomstick. If I hit one putt like that. And for that to be a captain's pick and to send out first, it was a big gamble. And it did not work Charlie Hall beat her three and two. And that was the first point of the board for team year. Yeah, Megan Bogey, the first hole got down early didn't, didn't lead at all today. I think her only birdie was the eighth hole if I remember right. And everybody was birding everybody as a dribble par four. And it could not have been a much easier hole. So she literally made made zero puts all day. And took it to 16, lost three and two. Like Charlie didn't play lights out, but she did what she had to do. She got up early and then she just played smart golf. She birdied both the both the par five is on the back.

8:14And that was that. We will go through these these matches in order of how they finished Angel Yin was in Lynn Grant Grant won this one four and three. This was only going to go one way. I think we laughed at what the odds were on this match last night. I just could not have pictured the world. I think Angel shot five over. And he was going to throw all of his all of his crypto holding this match. And we did not I know it's it's hot in the streets. There were no bets placed outside of any jurisdictions that were not allowed to do so. So ignore all of that. Everything he's saying that did not happen. But yeah, this was I mean, Grant, she, Lynn Grant made a mess of the 10th hole. Angel had to make a par putt from off the green on a par five to tie that hole or to win that hole. And after Lynn Grant made one of our few only mistakes she made all day just to go to up but grant one at easily four and three. Um every time Angel got any momentum going I mean, stepped up after winning 10 stepped up and hit a tree. There's not she any trees out in that golf course. Hit a tree up scrub pine or three.

9:16Um left of the green. It was it was tough and she had a tough time on 11 this week. That was the one where she she wiped it into the water that I didn't see that there was water on that hole. Yeah. So it was a good first glance. So so if you weren't following this leading up to the soulheim cup angel had a back injury missed a significant portion of the year came back rather quickly also had I believe in illness. That contributed her losing somewhere in the realm of 35 pounds and she made one start prior to the soulheim cup shot I think 81 76. So I think that was a good one. And I think that was a good one. Stanford in a difficult situation of figuring out if she needed to you know was angel going to be on the team before she made the captains picks. Well she made the captains picks Lily a voodoo ended up coming over who was somehow and I believe worse form than angel was in she was here as the alternate. And ultimately I look I think we you know we talked about this for like the the final month leading up to this that this was a potential problem and that problem played out. So in the four ball match but there just was nowhere to hide angel today and you know you if whoever is playing in that match flips that one in Lindgren was quite beatable the way the match shook out the US would have retained the cup so it's got a burn even more than to know that I mean I guess my question is like why you know I know angel would say hey I I earned the right to play and I'd like to but if you're not informed and you're not fit to play it doesn't seem like it's just.

10:43I just wonder why she wanted to play so so badly felt a little bit. Darius a selfish I I really like angel I and I think she could have been played a role for this team without having to hit the shots. I think she could have come over had a ton of fun be the team mascot I mean she literally dressed up as evil can evil on Saturday and dance around on the tea. I think she could have done that and they could have found somebody in better competitive form to take that spot so I don't want to put you know we'll have plenty of blame to kind of pass around on the US side and we're always going to look for a scapegoat. I don't want to put all on angel who like was in a great mood all week tried her damn hardest was like very seriously into it and I'm feeling for in this moment and I know you know something you can make a case for you get in a competitive situation. You know your body is just going to react to it your health is going to bounce back your back feels better all that and that just didn't didn't play out but it was hard to see this coming and these were two very evenly matched teams coming in even like everybody kind of knew a head of margins or thing here.

11:44Yeah so. Unfortunate there match to so the match in between this when Allison Lee went out second she drew Esther Hinslet from the European side Esther had Allison on the speed bag earlier got all the way back. So four up at one point but she kind of fell part a little bit on the back nine and Allison got hot as we've seen the Americans do on this back nine. He then set that one the 16th hole to get it back to all square then steps up birdie 17 and this was already look the way the board was shaking out behind her it was already looking like I do not see a path to victory without Allison come back and winning this match and she did it. It was a stay of execution for the US ultimately but or no her first soul home cup as a mom we talked about this last time she was eight nine weeks pregnant during the 2024 soul home couple was able to say anything publicly about that had to sit out morning sessions because of morning sickness. It was back first I had correcting the record as it has been pointed out she's the first American mom to play in the soul home cup since 2010 apologies to all the British and European mothers out there yes that was a yeah my hand up and stay for me on that one to step up and go for no she mentioned she had a two and five record in the soul home cup prior to this it was I just did not I'm not sure she saw career in a song like this coming back she mentioned she jokes I think on.

13:09She jokes I think on Friday or Saturday with Tom Abbott that she was a coworker of Tom Abbott says like earlier this year she did come to the booth earlier this year and what's going on now and is is dominating the soul home cup it was just awesome to see Allison birdie six of her last 10. I mean you know four down after 11 3. It's crazy what a like what a crazy come back is impressive Cody look like you almost had something there no you guys covered it. In the fourth match so that made a 10 9 Europe the fourth match was Nelly quarter versus Mimi Rhodes Nelly played fantastic she shot about minus seven she was three up through nine kind of this one was never end out she ended up winning this one four into it made it 10 to 10 but again there was a lot of stuff going on down the board that made it clear that this was not tied at this point. I was made out of Nelly not playing the afternoon yesterday not feeling well I think that decision.

14:10It was ultimately ended up working great for angel Stanford they went three and one in the afternoon yesterday got a lot of points out of it and Nelly came back in the four spot and won her match decisively today hard to hard to argue that would not be where things went wrong for the US. Mimi played well like she didn't play poorly Nelly just one I was I was take I was a little bit surprised with captain Stanford's press conference she was asked about the way that the draw shook out and she put a lot of emphasis on getting the players that played a lot rest rest heading into Sunday. I was just sending them out later in the draw and I was a little bit surprised to hear that it's like a 11 10 45 minute. It felt a little bit maybe overemphasizing an hour wake up difference between you know 11 10 versus 12 10 maybe or 12 12 10 versus one o'clock. Do they all not all arrived together also the first Friday and Saturday they arrived single team bus all at the same time today there was two waves so the early I think the first 25 whatever shook out to be 30 minutes came in an earlier bus plus those who wanted to do

15:29a video warm up things like that here and then there was a later bus to can I use this moment to just shout out like Cody McBride has answers to almost every question on the LP J tour his depth and knowledge of everything going on the LP J tour. You know, well, something will come up and he's like, oh yeah, this so and so is dating so and so and oh, that's that's it. Like he just has. He's got all the strikes to. Oh, you know, you know, all the balls and strikes within like the level of detail of which the inner workings all kinds of off the record stuff like you got that that man has got you all right. So I just want to shout out your massive efforts this week as well. And then this is where it starts getting weird after that one like it's two it's two to basically it's 10 10 there and then all hell it kind of breaks loose. Yeah, and this was this was it just never looked good in this section of the boards yet it's the they put the first third of the board match five is Alison Corpuzin and a Kurtz Madsen. But it ends up being Andrea Leah and the Nostalgia Nado who settled their match next that was the fifth point Nado one that one three and two that brought Europe up to an 11 10 lead she won the eighth and 10th.

16:39All is to get to that two up lead she was just extremely solid all throughout Andrea did not have the best soul hum cup and then the dough ends up making a great birdie from the back bunker to close it out have a pretty great moment on the most the loud one of the louder holes you can close out of match the 16th and put a key key point on the board will do some grades and everything later but Nostalgia Nado goes three and one in her first soul hum cup. I see stuff ending on 15 and 16 on either side because that's where all the juice was on the golf course. Yeah, 17 to you're looking at match five last night and I have to again I would not have seen a path to victory that would have included Alison Corpuz losing to Nana Kurtz Madsen with how Kurtz Madsen looked on Friday going to and sitting all day Saturday Alison is kind of who you're one of one of your horses you're riding a lot and it was not her best golf today. Nana Kurtz Madsen made a great birdie on 12 to go to up drain to bomb 11 14 to go three up got a little close there near the end and and madsen ended up winning that one two and one but that was the the 6.6 match that was 12 10 Europe at this point it's like.

17:50Alright you kind of got it will you should I've the tweets I was writing out like six things in a row have to happen in this way in the US can't lose grounded in the of them and it just that's never a fun to be sending like 3 p.m. When there's a lot of matches still in the golf course this was one where I thought when when Alison like you know Alison got down early she was two down early she lost the first hole got up back to one she was she was one down like she she birdied seven birdie eight birdie nine birdie 10 like she was like alright like this is this is this thing's close and then. Manage just played well she played really good golf she birdied 12 and then birdie 14 and like that was I mean she was three up by that point and. I think just got away from her before it could really like it was just I think like Alison didn't lose that match I think Nana wanted props to her for she was probably the biggest biggest question mark coming into Sunday for the European side yeah yeah I think we we spend a fair amount of lead up time and time this week kind of questioning a little bit of of the depth of team Europe and that was a massive question mark heading into today and that ends up being like the decide like if angel would have step up day and then.

19:02What has to up day and the Antikurts Madsen does not then us celebrating tonight and Europe is not and you needed needed someone who had a tough start to the soul I'm cut to to bounce back and perform and I mean they got point and we'll get to this as well but. They got wins out of I mean two players sat all day yesterday for Europe Julia Lopez Ramirez sat all day as well do I have it who. Julia Julia or or or another way that's right I would make it sure I had that fact right I forgot that I could also pronounce it wrong she wins her match against Yolimi know which was match seven Yolimi was absolutely incredible in both her four ball matches but just did not have her stuff I believe she was around plus two Vermeer has only shot about even it was not the best match out there but all you got to do is beat your opponent you always got some some putting issues I think that have been. Well documented and Mr short put on for to take a lead it was kind of a pillow fight but she ends up winning that one three and two gets her great moment there on 16 as well and all the sudden it's 13 10 Europe and it's really really really not looking good and you've got these two rookies and a really you got the question mark and Kurt's madson and then you've got Nastasia.

20:13Nastasia. Julia and Ladi all in a row the three rookies right in a row against well and Mimi yeah but oh yeah and then but right against like the meat of the order in Alison Andrea Yolimi Austin Kim and it was not count on getting no points out of that group like that hurts well that's the thing is that I mean you we could sit here and dice it up and I know both captains both teams are going to do it but the fact that they decided to send out their four rookies back to back to back to back to back. And like have the faith to put them in the in the heart of this order they didn't try to hide any of them I think it's been awful lot to the face that that and had in her team and she mentioned the post round it's like. You know I think over time us being here for three days now we got to know this golf course we got to know how firm these greens are usually pretty firm you have to get the ball high here and she used her captains picks. To find people so high like that fit this golf course it wasn't really about form or history playing team events or anything else like that that's what it was and I think that came through when she needed it most.

21:28Just for the record they she had rookies in four of five so when we mean then then Christmas is not a rookie then the doe Ramirez and world where the. We're in order there but yeah there was it was it was loud there on on 16 for hulia and it was the the fiesta broke out just like it does. When you grab a high noon to keyless celtzer pack or a vodka celtzer pack or a vodka iced tea pack no matter the occasion high noon has something for you and if you're looking for your next pack check out the high noon to keyless celtzer fiesta pack. Find an eight pack you can find a 12 pack all are made with real to key let real juice perfect for any fiesta no matter where you plan to throw it you could find the high noon to keyless celtzer fiesta pack nearest you at high noon spirits. Dot com high noon suns up. So looking bleak on the the US's side at this point and lotty wode had a massive lead over Austin Kim in match eight.

22:28Absolutely hammer she had her four up at one point but Austin Kim started making a run there's about a five there's that five minutes stretch that there always is at every single session where like everything goes the teams direction that that's behind and you start to convince yourself something might happen. Austin getting it back to one down birdie 12 13 and 14 it was it was awesome but wode bounce back birdie 16 to get back to that two up and guarantee at least a half she goes on to to have the 17th hole which is the point that that guaranteed the clinch because at this point Carlitos Segonda was dormi in her match or how do you say it was had cup show dormi or was dormi whatever she was dormi. She's the leader is dormi they had the half point guaranteed there that meant lotty wode's point was the clincher for Europe no birdies on the front nine for Austin Kim in the route to getting four down but did did the gave it late charge had the hand to the ear that was right there on 14 she rolled in I mean really good good approach and then great putt just buried it right in the center and then yeah gave gave the big you know hand of the ear.

23:37And Megan Kang was standing right behind that green as were few of the other US players and yeah that was like oh okay okay okay and then because we just seen some miraculous stuff happen Saturday and that having a little fresher in your head was like this could happen this momentum could happen the US has done well on the back nine. It didn't last very long but there was that moment that it looked like things we did get that moment. We will always have that. So that had decided the soul home cup what was still out there match nine Lauren cog line against the on a McGuire can I just go ahead real quick that decided the soul home cup right but that only got team your loties point got team Europe to 14 points they needed 14 and a half points right but Carlotta was dormi so it's guaranteed a half correct but I I my thing is that all the team was out there with lotty like fully knowing that's where it's at. But like Carlotta was battling just beating it beating it beating it down and like by the time we got done she had all the fans and everything that's great like ampere theater that we're in right now like hardly any of her teammates it was all with a lot range yeah.

24:48You know how she could have gotten there her you could have had the moment to win she could have. Comment a little faster. She had to put on 15. She had to put on 15 to win to clinch it as well and then also seems like Europe cares about this stuff way more than anyone else does who gets the clenching point but you're going to throw some shade at the year at the year. Yeah. I get a little bit. I mean, they just cares they want there's a team effort. I thought it was all about the team all of a sudden. Yeah. One time Europe is not about the team when it's about claiming you've got the clenching point. LC again, we're going to go through everyone's record but LC continued to just absolutely stun. She beats the owner McGuire two and one which doesn't capture how like not close that match was she played great. Leona was you know very she had the she was getting up and down like she did not hit a well. I think she was 50 yards behind Lauren on the first hole and it kind of kept up the whole day. But you ever credit for sticking in it like she that should have been probably a five and four match if if she doesn't make some

25:52putts. Yeah. As as mentioned the highly anticipated match between Jennifer Cup Show and Carlota, Segonda. I mean, Segonda just Segonda just came out absolutely firing. Cup Show did not look good early on. I think Segonda birdied what she birdied two. She birdied three. She birdied four five and five. She birdied four holes in a row to go four up through five and then it was night. And then birdied seven. And if you if you I'm going to I'm going to read the quotes again because they were absolute highlight. You know, she said I was really happy to see that I was playing in Cup Show. She's a fighter. I'm a fighter and I told her look great playing. I mean, even yesterday, which she did on the it was amazing on 17 and 18. But today I knew she had no chance. I was like, I want to kill you. Like that seems like one of those quotes is going to be in the big block letters in the team room. Like the next goal. We're both teams. Do you have anything you'd like to say to Carlota? I respect your game. I've always respected your game.

26:54I respect everything you bring to this event. I respect your career. I hate the way you go about it. I think it is borderline on sportsmen like to play as slow as you do. But I have a ton of respect for you. And it's even more when you're going to come in and say something like that. Like I think if I was to give a critique of how the competitive side of this event shakes out, it's a little friendly, like a little too friendly, like a little bit of, I don't want to say it this way, but I don't know how other way to phrase it. Like I like to see, like feel more disappointment from the US side. I like to feel more consequence. And it feels like Carlota is like one of the few people out of the 24 that plays in it that treats it. Like essentially life or death in terms of their golf career. And I respect the shit out of that. And like is the only one that says things in the press conference that are not like what you were supposed to say. Boy, I'm going to kill you. I got that was what you have no chance I'm going to kill you. I have a lot of respect for that. Is there something that this is fair? Yeah. No, that's totally fair.

27:55Is there something that the Spaniards teach with regard to putting your hand or like your grip up against your glove? Because like Sergio used to do that. Like the just that whole, you know, re-gripping. Yeah. I don't know like that. Carlota might be the new Sevy. She's got the spirit of sevy pushing the rules a little bit. The great woman, Carlota. I think that gamesmanship. Well, I think that's all part of it, right? I think the slow play thing is, you know, it would be one thing if it was just like specific to the soulheim cup, but that's just how Carlota plays golf. So you're like, oh, okay, it's not really that games. It's not even malicious. That's how she is. And you know, to her defense, he's talked about like, I know I need to get faster. Does that mean that she's actually getting faster? No, like, but she knows like she'll do it when people start finding her, stroking her. And that's something that the LPJ tours trying to take on. But for this event, I think it's something with the Spaniards and we joke about it all the time.

28:56Like she grew up watching Sevy. She knows exactly what it is. She's a she grew up watching, you know, Sergio and Jose Maria and like all these guys go out there and just like, this is their moment. And it means so much. And now you see who the like being being trained and brought into that same thing and you it's it's incredible to watch. Can you imagine if Sergio said, I want to kill him. No, I couldn't imagine what the press would do. Probably, I mean, when she said that today, like she got around the applause from the media center. Yeah, I think it's one of those things. I saw it. Everybody here plays on. They're all playing on the same tour. They all travel together. They're all friends. Like the rivalry is is kind of stoked one time every two years. Even the international crown, you can't. You'll never have moments like this. And I wish there was more. But I think in order to do that, you'd have to figure out, you know, make a stronger ladies European tour with individual events and have an opportunity

30:01for more people that aren't, you know, L.E.T. players that aren't also L.P.G.A. players getting onto these teams, qualifying onto these teams. But I don't know. Well, it's like that whatever I'm describing, Carlotta's got it. Yeah, in terms of like the fire for it. And like I let's like I love beating the Americans. How old is Carlotta now? And I think I think Mel has it too. I think Mel is it. Yeah, Mel Reed, who's assisted captain, but like kind of embodies that spirit as well. So Carlotta's 36. Turned another soul. I'm in anything. I think she's got at least one more. Suzanne had it. I mean, yeah, yeah, Suzanne invented it. Yeah, but still have it. And maybe a little too much on that side. But yeah, I hated that draw for Cup Show. I think she probably hated it too. As soon as she saw that like, oh, shit, I didn't Vamos after that. And I, I was waiting for Carlotta to give to hit back with with a Vamos or she played it very even keel today.

31:02She did not get old. And assassin truly, and I'll say this is that I the way that yesterday ended was a dream scenario for the United States team. I don't think you can have your moment. You can celebrate your moment. Maybe we probably didn't need the social media aspect of celebrating that moment yesterday, because that was Bolton aboard material for them today. Sure. And that was the first thing that, you know, the European team talked about. We were like, yeah, and guess what? We won the Cup. And now we get our two cases of beer. We weren't celebrating on Saturday night, because that's why we were all excited. No, the job wasn't done yet. Now we can go do it with our shit. Mel did say to like the team bus. That's a sacred space for us. We don't have any social media, which also like, yeah. So like the caddies and stuff we're drinking yesterday afternoon, I've had totally bought board. If you ask me, like that's part of the fun of the environment. They brought the cases. I don't think like the players, there wasn't anything celebrating last night.

32:03Like they won the Cup. I think I don't think that matters. I think it's the perception. I agree. I agree. But I think I don't, you know, there was some, some things floating out there. Like they should have celebrated last night. I think they were celebrating the momentum. Sure. I think that's totally fine. I don't think it's like the beers on the bus was a bad idea. I think it did, like porch, you know, you know, portraying that and putting that out socially, which might go, you know, it might be an LPGA thing. Hey, it's probably didn't help, but I don't think it was a overall deciding factor. But so that made it 15 11. Sagandas point. It was all over by then. Lindy Duncan, her match against Maya Stark. Lindy won that one. Three and one. Props. Lindy. Props of Lindy. And like, look, you can brush that off as that match didn't matter. That's Wikipedia match. Like no, she had the red on the board for the majority of the day when they needed it. That was a match I was particularly worried about from the US side. She won that one. Three and one. She was very impressive throughout. I mean, she got she was four up through 10, like at a time like US just needed to be like,

33:03all right, there's one match. I do not have to worry about. She shot around minus five today. And I think, you know, it was a it was a questionable captain's pick. She goes two and one. I think puts those puts those questions to rest. And you know, we'll look, yeah, we'll get into some grades here as well. Final match. Rose Zhang against Celine Pudier. I'm so excited. We're standing on 16, bear way. So just we saw almost none of this match on TV. It's all tied. They tied every single hole in the front. And until Celine birdie, they're Eagle 10 rose tied it back with a birdie on 11. And they stayed relatively neutral. I don't have it right in front of me. They were exactly. Yeah, they were tied through 15 and then yeah, and then so we're so we're coding our standard on on 16, fairway. Carlota just just won her match. Celebrations going on. And Celine looks over at Mel. It was Mel, right? Cody, no, it was a headwall headwall looks over at headwall.

34:04And she's like, do I have to keep playing? Like, I just like, no, she goes over. I have to finish. Yeah, she said, I don't want to. Like, this is I don't want to do more shots. We already won. Why do I finish? And like, yeah, you have to finish. Play through the whistle. You got to, by the way, V mile rose is like tenacious and trying to get really caught on my Wikipedia. Yeah, she's like an Eagle that all. It's like, OK, Eagle, the next one par and then birdie 18 to, you know, or, yeah, burnish finish to up. It was. It was nuts. I don't know what Celine is. I know we're going to get to grades. That's where you start out. I think grades wise. It just is not good. And this is the second or third cup that we've seen for Celine, where it's just a bad performance all around. Last two European soulheim cups. She's 0 and 7. She was 0 and 3 in Spain. She did go two and two in Virginia in 2024. But yeah, 223 in Spain, she was 0 and 3 and then she was 0 and 4 this week. And she's not exactly like a bundle of energy. You're easy to pair with others. So we don't know.

35:05Yeah. I want to give somebody the benefit of the doubt, right? Like, oh, we don't know what they're like in the team room. We don't know how it is, you know, with the other players. But I'll say this when she's playing with a partner and when she's playing alone, it looks like she's having a miserable time zero. Zero, which is harboring you not scoring any points. At least be an energy person. But where's Leona? Like doesn't look like she's having fun, but she looks like she wants to kill somebody. And that's delightful. So that's it. 15 to 13 Europe. They win the soulheim cup back. They win yet another spin since 2015 since the US has won a single session, which is, which is very, very, very tough. So you mentioned just some interesting kind of quotes from the pressors afterwards on the US sides. They went first, mentioned Stanford just saying she wanted to get some of her top players. Some rest did give us the line that you just insert. I think it comes with a US cap and see when you start a presser, you just have to say

36:07Europe made more pups. They played great. Check the bingo. I think the stats would probably support that. She made an implication in one of her quotes that, you know, let me see if I can get this exactly right. About about the greens being different than what they were expecting or saying something. She didn't want to say it. She didn't want to go right up to it. She said, I don't think we played bad. I think we just didn't make enough pups. If you listen to everything I've said, Europe always put better. I don't know why I still don't know why. I mean, I have a good idea, but I'm not going to say it right now. Apparently I didn't get to know the superintendent as well as I should have. I think they played really well and you have to compliment them and we gave it our best shot. I was not going to let that one go. I said, reading between the lines, what you just said, where greens feeds different than what your team was expecting coming into this week. And she said, yes, for sure, even when we showed up in July here, they were faster. And I don't think it had anything to do with the rain either. Now, saying that it's my responsibility to get the team ready.

37:07This is the one thing I'm kicking myself is that I just didn't keep pushing. You know, we've got to figure out how to hit our pups a little harder, which is really difficult to change the way you put. So I'm a little frustrated with myself that I didn't drive that point home. But I mean, that's there's nothing we could do about that. And the team knew that I mean, nobody complained about it at all. It's me saying this right now that I wish I would have maybe hammered it home more. Like they're going to be slow. They're going to be slow. They're going to be slow, but we don't play on greens this slow usually. So yeah, it's funny because right before that, she was talking about how important it was to hit the ball high and how Lynxie was out here and how firm it was out here. And then yeah, the slowness. I could understand that more if it was super soft, but they weren't soft. They were just a little slower. And it's, you know, I know it was a, it's mids, you know, and then, and then, uh, Captain Norris was asked the same question. By your splitting young journalist, as well. So let me see if I can get the exact quote here as well.

38:09You know, I asked, I said, you know, Captain Samper was in here earlier and mentioned that she thought the green speeds were slower than what they were expecting coming into the event. I asked if that was a strategy element. If they had a say in those green speeds, she asked, who said that? I said, well, Angela did. So okay, we're in Europe and in September. I know we know how the weather can be. I know how hard, how hard Neil and the core staff. I've never seen a golf club in Europe in the, in the world have such a large staff as he has. Even having feminine members of it, we worked really hard. I always said going into this week, we would try to showcase women's golf. I'm not sure I believe a lot in setting it up a way to fit Europe because these girls play the same golf courses weekend and week out competing. So going in, we came here in July, as we know, it was a very hot and dry summer. So the course played a little different then. And then we almost, we were just trying to make sure that the greens didn't get too firm at that time because there were some holes in the wind that it was hard to hold. So if anything, it was just trying to manage the firmness. But then obviously it's been raining a lot in the past couple of weeks. Then this week, we saw a lot of rain. So if anything, they were probably just playing a little bit softer than what we had thought coming here.

39:10That's obviously the weather we can't control that. It's such an amazing course, such an amazing venue. I was really cool to see the way we started, started on the normal third. She goes into the routing blah, blah, blah from there. So I think there was a way of Angela saying this that would have sound whining. And I did not think she was. Oh, she took ownership. She took ownership of like the greens were what they were. She could have landed on them. Not nothing provided cards during the scouting trip, which she talked about on our podcast. You made a joke about that. I totally hear exactly what Angela was saying. I think Anna gave a pretty fair answer there as well of the greens were a little bit slower, but that Europe had the team of Europe had nothing to do with that. But it was a theme talking to the caddies, talking to the players. They just struggled with the pace of the greens. I don't have a lot of sympathy for that of several days into the competition did not have figured that out and to have had practice rounds to have even here for a week figured out there was a lot of puts that they had to make that they did not get to the hole. And there was no, there's no excuse for that.

40:13Like you had you. Yeah, it is different, but like that's what everybody was playing on. It's also no. I don't think Angela is applying foul play, but just to be clear, like there was no gamesmanship with any of that. It's also fine fescue to pretty different surface than what they play a weekend week out on the LPGA tour. Yeah. So, um, you know, she, other comments, you kind of, you know, kind of made the point to Angel, you know, kind of didn't throw Angel under the bus. Apparently, Roman asked her about, you know, what, you know, what the situation coming at the angel and mentioned that she had gotten the half point. Didn't mention that it was all you leave me know that was responsible for that half point. But, um, also had interesting mention that they didn't, something that she felt hurt them. They didn't have strokes gained data access during the week. They had an in Spain. They had the resources to be able to track how players were playing on a shot by shot basis in Spain and didn't have it this week. And that was something that she wished her stats team would have had access to. So, um, yeah, she was very complimentary of Justin Ray and his efforts and

41:16everything. And I think the fact that it was eight eight going into, correct. Going into the final day, it says, says it all. It's like at some points on the players, right? Yeah. I did dig on that one too. She said we were missing some pieces. Uh, like that. And, uh, in the week of Spain, I was hoping she'd give us some, give us some strategy things, but she said, I told him, she told Justin Ray this because I know he's working with Jim in the rider cup. Uh, I told him exactly what he needed to do for Jim. He thinks it matters. Things, those things matter. Justin was a huge help. He got us the point. Uh, she kind of smiled when I was like any, any particular, I asked any particular reason you didn't have that resource. And she said, yeah, we just didn't. So that's why I couldn't be honest with you. Solid throwing his former employer under the bus. I did not throw my former employer under the bus. But can I say something? I, this is a second time we've said in a lot of a couple shows about what think we're lucky that the team got to aid eight yesterday. The American team is according to rankings, stroke days, stroke gains data, everything.

42:17They are a much stronger team than the European team. They outrank this European team across the board at every level. There are strokes gained data is better than the European team at every level. There's no reason why this is the result that we have. There's no reason why we should be happy that we got to a tie after each day. Something is wrong here. We are missing something dogs. I don't have the, the, the data right in front of me, but I remember, when I went through it earlier, I remember going through it on the US side and just being like, oh, I think we talked about this on the preview. I was like, I don't know if the second best player is here, guys. I don't know how much is that being weighed by Nelly being far and away the best player. Well, we said Lawrence. Yeah, we said Lawrence because you get down like I got down to like the bottom of the roster and they have like 95th ranked stroke player on the team. We have no midfield anymore. Yeah, it's, it, it gets weak pretty quickly. And the odds going into this week were dead even on US versus Europe. So I get that that would say on paper, like the US team is slightly better.

43:20And Europe has a home field advantage that's offsetting it from a, from a bookmaking perspective. But it felt evenly matched. It just felt like, I don't know, just in fact, the US had enough people step up again. They're like, you know what I mean? Like I felt lucky to get to eight, eight based on how they played is how, is how I felt. It didn't feel like from the beginning of the week to that point. I guess I don't know. I get that's kind of why I predicted Europe to win today. It's just like it just felt like that was the best they could have been through two, two, three, two days. And it just felt like Europe was going to outlast. It felt like a, it's like a transition here for the US side, right? Like the first one without Lexi, you've got likely asterisk tally, Yarra Merro. You know, likely a few other young ladies coming up. I think the European side, you're going to have a, Jenny Bay, who should have been here. Yeah, you're going to have a couple more Spaniards probably on the team next time between Carolina, Shakara and, you know, so I think there's going to be a lot of new blood in the next,

44:22in the at Valhalla and then especially, you know, in 28. Aaron was at 30 when we're, wherever we are back here in Europe. But like it's going to look radically different versus I think it's been mostly the same, the same core for the last eight, ten years. And that's where, you know, Megan Kang pick was like, it's based solely on her soul, I'm record definitely not on her play coming in. And part of the deal was just like there was not that player beaten down the door that was like very clearly way better than her that should take the spot. I think they were kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel with some of the, some of the picks and Lindy stepped up and you're, you're hoping Megan steps up and wins that match today and you look like a genius. And it just, it just did not happen that way. But I, I, I, this is, I did not feel going into this one. That the US was like a decidedly more talented team. I think the US also probably has to be kicking itself. I think you'd want four captains picks, not three. Europe had had four.

45:23And I think that's, you know, it was the last, we always say that. Oh, yeah, you want more, you want more, I mean, I think you should have six. If you have six, let's see who, who ended up points right? If you have, Angel was, oh gosh, Angel was second in points. Yes. Holy crap. Yeah. That's a probably still picking Allison, but just having more flexibility. Yeah. Allison was last to qualify. We'll do like a look back on this and what they can change for the process. Because I agree, like looking at Angel, they're, they're, the way that the point system currently works for Team USA is kind of finicky. You get a ton of points way early on too. It's like the waiting needs to change for a little bit more, more recency. But this is the first time in the reason why I bring it up and this is going to open it to a bigger conversation that we can have later. But like, this is not the match. I love the Solheim Cup. I love this. This is not what is, this is not what we have anymore.

46:26This is not, this competition is not reflective of the best players in the women's game anymore. We have to, we must tours, sponsors, people who care about this, must find a way to have a match with the rest of the world. Not the international crown. I know it's not going to be a PGA tour, co-sanctioned president's kept thing. That's not going to happen. It's not in the cards. We have to figure this out because we're going to end up with, yes, this, this was competitive, right? This is a competitive cup. But like, when you're not playing against the, like, the best players in the world anymore, what is the excitement? You know, it loses a little bit of the, of the lustre. I think it's, you just need the other thing too. Like, I think it's, you could make the same argument with the European team and some of these better cups as well. I'm not even saying it by the way. I'm not even saying that's, that's like team USA versus international.

47:26Yeah. I'm saying like, let's get the rest of the world versus let's make this, let's make this count for something. And if you want to make it like a more of a revenue generator, well, the ladies European tour won the Soulheim Cup. So they get the opportunity to compete against the international team and they get half of that proceeds. And if you remember this, this was brought up, it's up to years ago. Yeah, Nelly was called on the hot mic being like, I don't, I don't really want to go get my ass kicked by the agent. After you guys won the Soul of the Cup. That's great for her. But I mean, I, I mean, I think it, there's an easy through line of the Ryder Cup comparison. Obviously, what this event was, was modeled after US versus Europe. It just makes it easier to pick up. I kind of, it's, to me, it doesn't matter to me that it's not the best players in the world. I think there is a competition with a lot of equity in the bank thing. People have memories of and I like watching these two teams go at it. And well, why can't I have, why can't I bring up that idea and being like, yeah, we can have both. Totally. Can't we dream and have both and not have it be a negative to the Soulheim Cup?

48:27Not with the case that I'm going to make later on, which is by the Soulheim Cup every year. Well, we can't, I mean, that's, that's the stinky part about it is that like, we're always told, well, you can't have that because you already have this thing over here. I'm like, well, why can't we have both? It seems that like, we have new events popping up all over the, all over the place. Sure, we can figure out something. I mean, they have, again, they have the international crown there. It's just not serving as purpose. No. Yeah. I guess I just don't know what the hook is, even if it's like all the West versus all the East. The East is still like, well, then, then why do you put Australia, West versus East, they're technically East, right? Yeah. It's, yeah, I mean, I think just generally speaking, the, the LETs in an interesting position over the next couple of years as well, like the, the PIF funds a lot, like bankrolls, a lot of their, their finances, who knows what's happening with that. Moving forward with both the international series and the Saudi, the Saudi ladies, all that stuff.

49:30I know there were rumors or, you know, or like legitimate conversations being had three, four years ago with, with regard to LPGA and ladies European tour merging that didn't get across the finish line for a variety of reasons. But, yeah, like, yeah, like I think, I think we could see globally the, the ladies game evolved and, and it changed a lot over the next half decade. Yeah. I think it's just, it's, it's hard to lead like this event. We've been to a lot of women's golf events. Like, there's no environment like this. Like, it's just, it's so cream of the crop. And that's where, again, my case was going to be, women's golf careers are shorter in general than men's golf careers. And there's not the event you're describing in the off years, like the reason, a reason, like the rider cups, I'm a big play the rider cup every year guy. A big reason for that is it's too big of an event. Like, there's just too much around it. Like, the planning and organizations is difficult. And this, this event is big, but it does not feel too big to do every year. And I think it would be, it's a great opportunity to keep the storylines,

50:35keep the through lines, keep the rivalry, keep the momentum, keep the memories fresh. Like, I just like, they, they went. And I feel strongly about this on the women's side because they did it back to back in 23 and 24. And I just remember all like everything just that much sharper. Like, I just, if felt, fresh, it felt like I could not wait, you know, to get to that event. And it, it just, it, you know, the moment I'm dies back down and then coming back up, like, I, it felt like I had to get caught back up to get back into soul, I'm cup mode this year. I don't even know where the next one's going to be on this side of the pond. And that's, that's kind of crazy, right? And four years. And, and four years, it was so far, so far away, whereas if you had it announced for 2028 and that, and they were here today and could figure out best practices and say, Hey, we love this. We didn't like this. This was like, you know, just keep that momentum going. Like you said, the other one I would do. And I'd make the same case honestly as the rider cup. But I think that the soul hand cup can do more to differentiate itself from like the rider cup format. And I would say,

51:36especially for European ones, an opportunity to grow the product, grow the interest in this half of, I don't know, half of the audience of this event is in the US, I would say, I would do what the president's cup does. You take day one, the Friday and you separate it into two days. You play four sums on Thursday or four ball on Friday and you play it in the afternoon here. So people like a lot of the great four sums matches, all the four sums matches happen in the middle of the night in the US. And it's almost unwatchable for, for US people, breaking it to two days, extra ticket gate revenue for the tournament day. There's so many practice round days. And I know it shrinks the gala and all the opening ceremonies and all that. I'm fine with that for an extra tournament day. Yeah. It's really going to play it every two years. And it's only three days. I just think that's too much jammed into a tight period of time. There's strategy that comes with how you, how you, you know, rest your players, how you, how you start them. But I, I think the, the LPGA and Lazio Pintour could be a leader in changing that part of it. I think that has been successful in the president's cup front. And I would, I know as something that wants to see

52:39this event and women's golf grow in the US, more opportunities to view it. Actually on television would be a pretty important one. I will give them credit this year for this was the most cohesive set of broadcast windows. Like it was on golf channel the whole way and they went whole way, wired a wire and they kicked Irish open over to CNBC. So praise progress on that front. Yes, I, there's still ways to go. I understand. I saw we were filming early in the week, but I saw Jess quarter like asking where the opening ceremonies, you know, announcing of, you know, the first matches, I think that was all streaming. You know, so there, there are ways that you can still elevate it with the bumper coverage, but overall you're getting the golf when the golf is on. Which I think is a great thing. I will say we watch zero coverage. So there's not going to be a hamster damn section. I haven't heard really anything. I don't know if you guys have. We heard a lot from our friends in the UK who got a heavy dose of Morgan Pressle and the U,

53:44and mainly the US broadcast team and they're like, oh, okay, we get it. Like this is why you guys have been fighting over on your side. So because you know, similar thing like when they, when the Australians get our feet or whatever, like, oh, okay, we get the commercial little of this stuff now, right? So it's funny. When we get everybody else's feet, we're like, oh my goodness, this is amazing. Like I love it. It sounds so different. It's cool. I did watch a lot on TV today, just in the media center and there were some interruptions, but I got to watch a non. I didn't get up like going to Bathroom, like three hours. Like I got back to just take a rest from the rain and I was like, guys, I'm saying in here, like this is awesome just to watch all the moving around from there. But if I'll say to both of you guys this week, you just been absolutely stunting in your greens. You guys have brought the absolute heat when it comes to the greens. That is from our friends at Holderness and Born. The fall collection is here. They got new arrivals, new colors inspired by the landscape, the color of the coastline of Northern California. What you guys have put on this week has been has had an influence on me. I went straight to our store to order pretty much

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55:53that only NBC could pull off. Just playing through, play through. Sully jumped on these because, of course, we got the new bird action going on. Drew, I don't know if you can see that or not, but I know that'll get you excited. That looks great. That's what we do with 90 minutes show and we have three adverts in the whole thing. Yeah, so feel free to compare that into our friends at NBC. You guys ready to do some grades? Yes. We don't have to link your... No inflation either. We've had, there's a word, the word for delicious in Dutch is lecker. They're super lecker. In Sully called way too many things as we super lecker. I got a great list of super lecker. Super lecker inflation. There's been super lecker strobe waffles, cast angles. What else was super lecker? The La Perla, the pizza place. You guys got to check that out. You're ever in Amsterdam, the Opaltarth, that's locker room at Binkle 43. Those waggy sliders. Yeah, I'm going to come... After our video comes out for me, I'll give you guys... I get a lot of emails about the Amsterdam tips. I'll give you a full guide. I got Chad Coleman as there today. I think you sent me a text that

56:54said, how the fuck did you ever leave this place with the day I sent them on there? We'll get that together. Yes, I saw a call a lot of things super lecker. There was some inflation, but I was very excited to be back in the Netherlands. Sully and Boudier, oh, four and oh, what is her grade? Feeling... Yeah, she failed the class. I think that's an F. And an F across the board. It's pretty simple one. Carlota Saganda, one, one and one. That record does not match the feelings around the golf course. Carlota is one of two heartbeats of the European team and Carlota gets an A. I don't care about the draw. I don't care about the loss. She is this event. You took so much energy out of Cup Show. Like Cup Show, there was no way she could have won that any match today after what Carlota... She won yesterday, but at what cost? You cannot replace a Carlota Saganda, just like you cannot replace a Gary Bertier.

57:57Exactly right. So you're giving her? I'm giving her an A minus. I will go A minus as well. Some of the golf away from the big moments was like less than perfect. So I to prevent the grade inflation, I'm not going to go full A on there, but did what she had to do. Yeah, well, I agree that one one and one is selling her a little bit short. There's a little bit of fair amount of that as we go through these. But Lin Grant goes four and oh, her and Allison Lee both did their 9th and 10th players to go four, oh and oh, or at least four, oh and oh, in the Soulheim Cup. It's a course courtesy of Randy Robles, the last sports bureau. Randy gets an A this week too. Randy gets an A as always. Lin Grant gets A plus. A plus. She went oh and four two years ago. So to come back and go four and oh and battle it out. Single's notwithstanding. Battle out against some of their best players and do it in the form and fashion that she did it. Maya and her set up best, like they just had fun.

58:57And it was it shown through. They were true. They were they were the two leaders of this team this week from a from a emotional and energy standpoint. I think Carlota was like the steady heartbeat and they were the they were the adrenaline and the joy. I will go A for Lin. What else would she need she need to go five and a plus. Longer player in the team play and Lin was not great today. Just drew a great great draw with Angel. And I think a lot if if I put her matched or golf today up against a lot of players on the US side she very well could have lost. That's all preventing from an A plus. That is that is picking from that. It was not a plus golf. It was a golf because it's a very it's a very a self-friendly great Cody. Yeah, it's an A for me. I'd love it. I loved every minute of it. I love Lin in this environment. Her and Maya have such a great thing going together. She's the competitor. The number one thing they hate is losing. I love seeing it. But man, it feels like every time we have a soul-hime cup and we're talking about Lin Grant,

1:00:01it feels like we're you know in the States we have these national conventions for you know, politicians. And I get real fired up about this speech and hope and change and everything. Like Lin, you got to come through a little bit on me, man. Like you got to do something in your normal week to week LPGA tour career because we want this Lin all the time. This is what we thought we were signing up for. It's got to do something. It's crazy. She's 61st in the world. She's made less than half of her cuts this year on the LPGA tour. Only two top 10s. It's it's truly mading. But an example of like just the team stuff that makes it super fun, right? Of a truly gel in multiple different formats and just clearly had a ton of fun and stepped up when they needed to. So Esther Henselet went to N1. She won both of her matches in team and then lost a singles match after being four up at one point today. What's your grade for Esther?

1:01:01Esther's a tricky one. What do you think, Cody? She's going to be. I think she's getting a B for me as well. Yeah, Sally was not in some of the pace of play stuff. I saw some of that first first one. That incident. It was not habitual bad bad intentions like Carlotta. No, I don't think that's it. Esther's awesome. Yeah, Esther is like really, really good. The issue is Esther makes like buckets of birdies and all of a sudden she like makes a turn and get to the 10th hole and she's like, oh my goodness, I forgot how to putt. She runs out of gas. She just watched this like, oh my man, this car crash is coming and it happens to an individual stroke play events. It definitely happened to her today. The reason why, you know, I thought about giving her like a B minus, but I'm refusing to give minus or pluses everything's just going to be straight across the board today. She's getting a solid B. How do you get to be four up and lose one down? You know, and I understand major props to Allison Lee for playing fucking awesome, but you got to find something. I think the fact that you've given her a B that speaks to her,

1:02:06her, her body of work this week overall. She got some, some nice draws overall. And it was heavily up early because Allison was, was especially struggling. It wasn't like she played incredible. So I'll go B as well. Thank you. Very, very nice Soulheim Cup did her, did her job went two and one. Charlie whole, I want you to lead this off because one three and one. I am going to give Charlie a B minus for this week. Okay. She record looks worse than it is. And we're going to get to Lottie and I'm going to I'm going to fight very hard on that one. She played five matches. When five matches got done in lead match, she was not the stronger player between her and Lottie and a lot of the team golf. And I didn't get to see Saturday morning portions, which I know didn't go well, but her and Lottie drew mathematically like the worst possible spots they could have drawn. Their four balls were excellent. I think they shot eight and nine under in those and lost both of those matches. And I know the record looks ugly. Got it done out of lead

1:03:08match today. Going all five and happening to play playing good golf and happening to get the top players on the US side is not her fault. She did a lot of what she could do. So that B minus might even be light, but that is it. We'll look back at one three and one and think she had a bad Soulheim Cup. When we checked the Wikipedia in two years, and I want I want on the record that I do not think she had a bad Soulheim Cup at all. I thought her partner was even stronger. I co-sign everything you said. I do wish they would have broken her and Lottie up just because I do want to see Lottie. Yes. I want to see Lottie how she meshed this well with someone else. Very difficult. Charlie, they're going to continue to have difficulties pairing Charlie with someone. I think that they're grooming, grooming Lottie to be that person. And I agree with you guys. It made so many birdies and it's hard because you don't really know who you're going to go up against. But you know, I think there's other

1:04:09intangible things that Charlie, you want her to bring to this competition that she's never is going to. She's not going to be the leader of this team. She's going to be there. She's going to be present, but like she's not going to be the raw raw motivational one. You know, she's you're expecting her to come here and do her job and get her points. Yeah. That's like a class participation part that you know, it's great if you do that, but you're not getting points and you're great for that. I think for that, I'll give her a C. She's the second highest ranked player in this field. I kind of expect more, but again, you can't control the draw all the time. Yeah. Nana Kurtz-Madson, we can move a little faster through some of these Nana Kurtz-Madson 1 and 2, but got it done in her singles match today after resting all day Saturday. C plus. I'll go C. C. Yeah. Big massive point, upsetting Alison Corpus. It was bad early, but was with Celine as well. So I think that one that one works. Julia Lopez Ramirez, 1-0 and 1. She passed the class. She did what she was asked

1:05:13to have won her singles match again. It wasn't necessarily pretty match. I will say I'll give her a B. Yeah. I'll go right along with you. B. I'm not even grading her. She passes. She goes along the next whole time. She gets a P. Okay. Uh, Leonna McGuire, 2 and 2. Leonna is so tough to grade because she's like she's greater than the sum of her parts. She's, she's a, she's a really useful tool in the toolbox for the European team. She certainly has limitations as far. Like I think the weather certainly both helped her with regard to, she's definitely a mother, but also heard her with regard to like it was softer out there and you're not the rollout. She kind of relies upon the ground game a lot. I would give Leonna a B. She's, she's just, she's rock solid and does what she needs to do. And I think she's, she's such a great player to, she's such a good tool in the whole box for those four sums matches. I'm giving her a C.

1:06:17Just didn't really fear her this week. I kind of got to go with my gut when I saw her against LC. I'm like, I think LC's winning that one. Yeah. She paired up with Esther and, and to beat Andrea Lee and Lundy Duncan who weren't very good in Friday. For sums, she beat Jennifer Cupchow and Rose Zhang in Saturday morning. For sums those were the two wins she had in four ball. She lost pretty badly with Nostasia yesterday afternoon against Rose Zhang and Austin Kim. Just 2 and 2 got got did what she needed to do, but it was not like the I fear you Leonna version of the other. That's fair. That's fair. No, but I'm pretty confident in saying that I'm with you, Salia C. That this is going to be heard last Sohine Cup as a player. With the talent that we see coming up, it is more and more evident that she is the, the best player in the world from where she has to play golf from. Yeah. And that is it's such a disadvantage compared to her peers now.

1:07:21It will be a big ass disadvantage at Valhalla for sure. Yeah. It's, you know, there's a little much to ever come. There's glimmers of like, oh shit, that's Leonna. No one else is going to pull that off. And then all of a sudden, you're like, it's when you expect it to be like every other moment. You're like, oh, like that's you can't like she's hitting like six. I would say, Leonna, Leonna is like a, she's like a bottom of rotation picture right now that you know what you're going to get out of her when you, when you toss after every five days and you're going to get cheap like the bullpen's not going to get worn down. You're going to get five or six call it out. You want to talk about a role player? I say this is the last little time Cup as a player because there will be come a time when Leonna, not very far away, probably when Leonna will be a captain and will be the most motivating and inspirational captain in a very, very long time. Like I can see it now and it's crazy is that I walked with Lisa a lot, her twin sister this week and like seeing them and how they kind of banner back and forth

1:08:25and get things going and they they chirp their sisters like I, you know, I think of my twins when I look at them because there's little things that they do to get under their skin and like, oh man, I see like her sister being like, no, like come on, man, like what are you doing? Go out there and do this like go and bringing that to a team room where they can control it like, man, I can't wait, I can't wait for that. One other thing just going back to some of the captaincy stuff. Another thing that came up a lot in the press conference tonight from the European side was transparency. They said that word for I think three or four of them must have mentioned that word and I thought it was really interesting of like it hints at something, you know, maybe from last go around or from Spain with with Patterson where I like I think they would all tell you like that. I don't think she was the most transparent captain. So it seemed like that was a big priority for this team was, hey, let's let's feel like we have more buy in and feel like you have more trust than us as players. Estacea Nado, three and one as a rookie.

1:09:27A I think that gets an A. She gets an A. Yeah, blue. She's got way better than I thought she was going to play. Yeah. Yeah, it's truly phenomenal. It's like one of the better captains picks. That's in recent memory. She did all, you know, did get some on the favorable draw side, I think, but you can't you can't nitpick. I mean, Andrea Lee and Austin Kimmer, like they're they're very good players. Andrea had a tough time. Yeah. I will get there. But you can't overly critique three and one as a rookie. Winsor singles match today. Even just playing four times as a runner. Yeah, it's a lot. I think she drew it. Yeah, she played basically the same group of issue of people for the majority of the week, but got the job done and got it done. The only mistake loss was to Rose and Austin Kim on Saturday afternoon, but excellent debut. So high for her. Did you give a great Cody? Sorry, if I

1:10:27didn't know. But I heard in the Sasha. Yes, I did. I agreed. Mimi Rhodes, two and two B plus I'll go B for it. She teed it up four times. I think those those you're great in fighting because your boyfriend's a listener. She's not a listener. She's firm. She doesn't listen to podcasts, but no, I think, um, obviously she lost to Nelly today, but that's a big that's a big ask. Going out there, I think she she actually played Nelly pretty pretty tough overall. All right, just again, four times going out four times and just having that doing doing such a competent job the first day that they send you back out the second day. Twice is that's that's huge. That's where this energy levels are all excited. I actually joined you with B plus them that that very strong case that you know, she had a very important impact on the Solankov and a very, very, very tough draw on singles were Nelly with 700 Maya Stark, three and one loses singles match to Lindy Duncan, but had a great run with with Lin

1:11:33Grant. I will start it. I will give Maya Stark an A minus the same boat A minus she was A plus through the first three days, losing this one that today bumped her down a little bit, but was was the better player that between her and Lin Grant, I think, and that's brown, we're brown, we're half the grade them. Cody, agreed. A, you know, I ride from my at every turn though I understand that. What the one thing we mentioned it today, she needs, what Nelly went out and did, Maya needs to go out and do. Like, you got to go take these people down in singles and I think Maya would probably say like, she wanted it really bad, but like by the end of the round, she's like, I'm fucking tired, man, is this week over yet? Yeah. Lottie, wode, one, three and one. I'll give Lottie a, I mean, she's a rookie, we're kind of, I would give her a B. Again, she played, she played a role in playing with Charlie. She teed it up

1:12:38four or sorry, five times, which is remarkable. She won her singles match. She, the clinching point. And just generally speaking, it seems like she's, like, this is the worst soul I'm cup, I think we'll see from Lottie, ever and she acquitted herself well. I'm going to give her a B plus. I thought she was excellent. I know the foursome's matches didn't go great. I just, one, three and one record is the one that ran a little, I ran my little analysis like, you know, I'm going to her performance was the one that stuck out the most in terms of what she contributed specifically to four ball that, what she went up against in four ball, just truly being about as unlucky as you can get. I had no problem with them going as much, going out as much as they did. You can't do much about who you get paired up against. She got it, went out, got it done in singles. She's a player to be feared. She's an excellent, excellent, excellent player. I thought she had a great, played great golf. I know the foursome's did not go great. That is what she's getting ding for, but I will ride for this one

1:13:41as a, another similar to Charlie of like, her record did, her play did not get reflected in her record. And I'm glad you got that point on the board in the Clunching moment because she had a good soul I'm cup. She gets to be, I agree with everything that you guys said. She isn't a very tough position. Thankful to have this rookie soul I'm cup behind her because at no point dime is she treated or have the expectations of a rookie. People expect her to be such a seasoned vet everywhere she turns up thinking that she has already been there and done that just based off for record in the very short professional career so far that no, but I mean Rose, you know, famously made that spain team after being a professional golfer for like two and a half, three months. She was, Rose was afforded the availability to truly be a rookie and make rookie mistakes. Laughty does not have that. And I think she did everything that was asked for her. Thank you. I like this comp. I'm gonna work with me here because it's not Apple's to Apple's to Apple's to Apple. But like,

1:14:44Rose is, or I'm sorry, Laughty like in this one is like the shortstop that like is going to give you a ton of war. Like the the stat line isn't going to get in the war, but you got to find somebody to hold down that position. Like it's going to go five matches and took some really tough matchups and like it's going to wear it on the chin and like look the batting hitting stats don't look great, but like you can look at some of the rookie stats. Like you can look at Nostasia and you can look at some of these rookies we talked about. They got to go play first base. They don't have to worry about defense and yeah, they're going to mash a little bit and they're like you're just sub-tweeting Randy right now. A little bit, but like you've got to find something to play that role to go those five and to face those matchups and hold hold their own as well as they did in the points didn't work out great, but like that could have gone very differently. Yeah, I think and that's kind of the comp I'd make there. Yeah, it's like the receiver that's got to go up against the guess they're getting shattered by the best corner in the league. Yes, everybody else is getting open because you know because they're bracketing him. That's that's wonderful. So let's be quicker on the US side. What about you want to do? They're captain now or wait for the captain's are coming after.

1:15:48At the end. Okay, so. Yeah, Alison Corpus one and three. Give her a C-. I think C- is good. I think one decent session is reflected in the record needed needed that singles match today. Like that was one that the US just could not afford to lose in any way and it did not did not work out for him. She was pressing. I mean, I'll give her that. She was. It's just when you don't have control over your golf ball. Yeah, and or your putter this you press and you get in trouble that you got caught with her hand in the cookie jar and it's a C-. Lauren Cogland three one and one big fat stick in A. I would give her an A. I think like she's quickly becoming one of the best rider cup player of her generation. So I'm sorry, so long cup player of her generation and I cannot wait till the day that she's a captain. I think she'll be awesome at that too. Like she's just she looks she she does everything subjectively and objectively in these in these in these events to

1:16:51just like it's what the event is all about. She embodies the spirit of it, I think. I I could not have ever predicted this level of success for her in this event as of several years ago and I couldn't have how nervous I used to get watching her like try to make eight footers to like make cuts in majors like several years ago versus the confidence and the levity that she plays with in this event in particular. When everything gets amplified a ton she looks like she's having the most fun of anyone. She's smiling. She's talking to us in between holes like and she's just feeding people's brains in and just is doing it with such a it's not an arrogance. It's just this confidence that it's just awesome to watch so proud of you Lauren. A big stick in it. You know, if you'd gone undefeated it would have been A plus did have the one and she played great in the match they lost nothing she could do about the four ball aspect of that but A for Lauren Cogler. Yes. Congratulations. Lenny Duncan two and one B plus for me. One of the singles messed that they desperately needed. You know, it wasn't wasn't great in the early early go of it but two and one is a captain's

1:17:53pick controversy captain's pick. I'd say she she did the job. I'll give you that. Yeah. I'll give her a B. I'll give her a B. Yeah, B. I didn't say LC. Oh, also in it. Yeah. Lenny I think very good showing more than likely first and only soul-hump cup. You did did very well. Got on the resume too. Let's let's do it. Megan Kang wanted to I'm giving her a D. I'm giving her a D plus. She gave it all. She tried. She tried. She guys I get like what do we can now participation awards. She had some good moments and four ball in the afternoon on Friday that led to a victory. This doesn't fail. She did not fail completely but she didn't do anything beyond that. She was a captain's pick for a reason to show up and do a specific job. The issue is when your game no longer fits that person who accomplish those

1:18:55things in the past. There's something wrong. It doesn't mean anything negative about her. She she should she should be a part of every single team. I just don't know until she gets starts playing better golf. She's not a player. She can come come be an assistant captain. Come be a support whatever it's just it just didn't happen. Yeah, the putters just bad. You're giving her an F. Yeah, she gets enough. Yeah, putters extremely bad. Man, we were warned and it's worse than the the movie we're warned. Austin Kim one and three. Yeah, D. Yeah, I don't have a lot. I didn't watch or play a lot of golf in person but was not somebody that could be relied on for the US team. Brought some energy. I was really stoked about Austin Kim after watching her on Friday and it just didn't at times it felt like the moment was not too big for her. She was just a little unprepared

1:19:57and that just takes experience and she's the hell of a player. I hope she's she'll be back on more teams and she'll learn from this and and be on the swing. Yeah. So Nelly Corda two one and one. B minus. I'll give her a B. She was her she was she was sick evidently. She I think you're right. B is fair. I'm I'm great. It's unfair to grade her against like top Nelly. Just her overall performance is probably around a B. Yeah, this next one's going to be tough. Yeah, for sure. She gets to be again, you expect an awful lot from her but we know like when you're very good at individual golf that doesn't add all equate to any sort of team dimadded and I think they do a really good job of providing everything that she needs in order to perform her best and sometimes it it just works out and sometimes it doesn't but that's what it is. I think she she did.

1:21:00She did what she needed to do. Jennifer Cup Show one and three. God, I don't know how to do this one. I don't either. It she gets to see. I was gonna say C minus for me. Yeah, I mean you can't you can never take away what happened yesterday afternoon but that that's it. I'm gonna give you a passing. We're not you know you're not getting a D and like we're around on probation. It came to office hours. You did some work again. Like it's she's stunk for the most part. That's kind of what it is. She's a mountain tent. Yeah, it that's what made the the conclusion of Saturday so surprising was just she didn't play well at all and it kind of came out of nowhere but it's just hard when the US team has two two women that were putting hands to ears and doing taunts they went two and six combined. I just was overall did not help them. Easy one here. No, she failed the class. I give her a D because she failed the class. You don't pass with a D. Allison Lee 40 and O A plus a stinking

1:22:06plus. Congratulations to Allison. A treat to watch was just extremely extremely reliable. Back up against the wall today. Four down. You know has her kid here with her and just a lot, lot going on as this the 10th player ever to go 40 and I'll install him cup a stinking plus. She passed with or she she graduated with honors. Yes. Cody, I agree with everything. You mentioned thing from Tom talking about her working on the broadcast team in Vegas this year. I talked to her at the end of last year and was kind of like what are you doing? She's like I honestly I don't know. I'm worried about my game. This isn't really going good. I'm worried about you know keeping a card. Am I going to have to go back? You know there was a time where she completely lost LPGA tour status. It was playing full time on the OET tour. You know and then got a win there and then that springboarded her into a little bit higher events and then finally came back around. She was seriously worried about it

1:23:06and that the trial in Vegas was legitimately to be like I'm retiring from playing. I want to be a full time mom and let's try this broadcasting and she was really good at it. But I think what it also reminded her of is like you know I'm like really good at golf still and I really have a fun time doing it. Let's figure out how I can manage this whole thing and just seeing her out here with her like she's a very active mom. She's not just dropping you know him off and leaving or whatever he's in the thick of it. It's awesome to see. Yeah and I mean gosh the broomstick has been awesome for her and her swing just looks absolutely excellent. Look like she knows exactly where the ball is going and I hope it lasts because it looked as sustainable and good as it possibly could. Andrea Lee one in three. Dee I love Andrea. Extremely nice person. I think it was a Dee. I think it was she was costly. She's so much better than her results. Yeah. That's been the last year and a half. Yeah. It's frustrating. Yeah. Agree. Yeah. You'll leave me know one one and one. Give her a

1:24:14this is so hard. Like a B. She got like 110 out of 100 on the first two tests. Yeah. But she was like the most important match out today. It really that one really really stung today. Oh a B plus for me because it was it was absolutely epic for the first two days and MVP of the entire like US team. I know she only played two matches but like nobody played better golf than she did for the first two days and like the reason why Laughty and Charlie's records looked the way they did was because of of the Elimis performance. So it's hard to knock her that hard on today. I'm just very surprised what we saw today based on how the first two days went. So I think B plus and might be a little friendly because that singles loss is definitely going to sting. But Cody. Yeah. I agree with everything. Come. Angel Yen 0 1 and 1. Angel didn't get a grade. She got she got expelled. Yeah. Angel is it's a force like getting an F. I was going to say just incomplete. She did not. She did not

1:25:14you know. She didn't complete the course. Exactly. She didn't feel pat you know turn in all of her paperwork, everything like that. Hey, I think it I don't know. I have a problem with incomplete because like part of what I'm grading here is detrimental is that you you had an opportunity to give up your spot and give your team a better chance to win and that that goes into the equation. That is your type of expelled or so it's an underpermanent record. You're asking something of somebody that no no one would ever do that. No one would ever ever do that. To be an automatic qualifier for something and to be outside of to be cleared through doctors through physical therapy through everything that says yes, you can go. You're asking somebody to say no and turn down something that that that she dreams of doing because of that. That's such a massive sacrifice. I think it's unreasonable to hold that and say that's what she should do. Now. She got to do better

1:26:17in this. That's kind of what I'm saying though. Like it wasn't like what is doing better. She's held me and cleared. Why is there an alternate here? Like that that's the part that like all right, this is bad enough that we have if the if the play is that bad, she's not going to go. Like if we are bringing an alternate here, there are massive question marks that you're putting a captain in a really difficult spot of how to use you. Like I don't think it is unreasonable. Significant period of time off have no quality starts leading up into it and not entertain the idea that yes, I qualified based on a different golfer qualified for this than the one that's right in front of me right now. This is her fourth soul. It's not like she's some rookie that this is a fleeting. This is her fourth soul. I'm company and she's 20 and she's only 27 and it is intra. It's you're right. I wonder if the decision obviously it's it. Somebody told her you have to play a tournament before sohan. That's why she played FM. Can't just come back for only sohan or sit it out and come back. I can't I don't even know what

1:27:23the next event is in two weeks, but probably Arkansas or some. It's is a very whatever the plan was and I'm sure we'll never hear what that those conversations were actually with her of what the agreement was, but I don't know. So you you know these teams a lot better than I do. Have you ever heard of the names in the envelope being exposed and warming up and like taking part in reps? Like you're in training camp. I think this happened. I don't remember where. I think this happened on the men's your men's side and there there's more to there's off record stuff as well as to what went down here that like we're not privy to share that also is going into this this grade of like not good. It's not good. It was not good and I think Angel I handled it all with class and I think it just would have been a lot cleaner if they were able to to bring someone else. So maybe maybe it would be a little bit different if they were to got brought any of the two who I

1:28:29really think were closest points or captains picks. They brought Lily Wu who like one likely would not have played better. No and that's like that's what part of the problem is for sure in this you know that so when you're looking at the cards that you're dealt and trying to figure out what it is you okay you want to take Angel or are you trying to win this thing or are you trying to give everybody participation trophies? For sure. Yeah yeah yeah it's it's better some better I need to do some better sourcing of what I've heard about that situation before I report that I know it's not fun to be the guy nobody likes to get it knows something doesn't say anything but you have to be responsible in these situations and I don't feel good enough to like report on how that's all you let it rip man come on let it we'll come back to that like put let me put a pin in that do a little bit more digging to get some sources to verify what I heard there but what I heard there it doesn't look good on Angel side and that goes into to the grade and the decision to play in this so final great final up Rose Zhang two and two oh my former two and B minus and C plus B minus right here

1:29:36didn't draw the hardest matchups didn't wasn't an alpha did win her singles match after sleep basically quit on it and sleep was I need Rose was someone I wanted to see up front today like that's one that I'm like I want to see her in the first six yeah it just doesn't seem she's not giving off the vibe that she's like in killer mode at the moment you know yeah so I'm gonna start this by saying first I'm sorry to to team Zhang for saying this but I think the the excuses of where Rose was at in life have to have to stop at some point yeah correct Rose has done with college Rose has had multiple months now of back playing full-time professional golf we were got very excited when Rose finally qualified for this team that she supposed to be like a captain of you know one of our leading point getters when she finally got

1:30:40enough points to do it she kind of laid some eggs on events leading up to this and then she comes here and it's like you know it's one of those things I understand that Rose is the like silent assassin she doesn't like to show a ton of emotions but she's gonna have to start doing that doing something more showing up being more prepared more fiery getting people into it because she is a she's the motivator which is why I struggle a little bit with like pairing her up with Cupcho yeah right yeah maybe we're unfairly blaming her they're not they're not like bringing out the best yes either yeah yeah I think it maybe you start is it it's probably two kinds to just say all right well let's start 2027 with a fresh slate for Rose now college is completely in the rear view you're gonna be healthy hopefully with kind of some things have been lingering and like we'll go from there but yeah we've come down a little bit from 12 major prediction you'll have

1:31:41the injuries are like a real thing like yeah you know she didn't you know she didn't play Canada because specifically for that yeah and she knew that she had like she was gonna be a captain spec she stole that ahead of time she didn't have to um the guardians are having a heck of a lot of fly in front of us it's still leaving the grounds here but captain grades and a Nordquist give her an a get her on the get her on the team for Val yeah I got nothing didn't nit pick I don't think she was like an amazing inspiring captain from one of gathered I give her a give her a B plus like she want a home soleheim cut by two points like kind of held surf I'd say did did the job well done I didn't blow me away it wasn't like that's the blueprint for captain scene necessarily we're working off like 0.1% of the information but that's kind of from where I'm sitting where where what I see from from her yeah yeah that's that's all fair Cody yeah great for Anna hey I think she did a great job she's not the raw raw type but I'll say this is that I think she is

1:32:45one who has a best understanding of her strengths and her weaknesses she found vice captains that she has all the trust in the world and can fill in those gaps that she knows that she does not Mel Reed being the motivator the let's go out and mess them up Caroline headwall who is like the the drive and the termination of look at me and is also like you know a sweetheart to everyone and then and then damn who like took her home event and was like trying to get them to understand that the gravity and how big of a deal this is and they all know they come from a bunch of different countries and they dream of like this opportunity of being able to host it and they they lived through that with her um I think she did an an awesome job and I hope after she thinks about it that she does it again because I think it would be really cool to see her captain in the states because yes

1:33:47she's European but she's lived in the states for a long time very successful college player and based out Arizona I think it would be cool um to give her another shot amen Angela Stanford I was actually impressed with Angela this week I was too I came in thinking all right this is going to be you know between the captain's picks and just not getting a lot on the front end and and um I think she was dealt a tough hand and handled it with grace and and did everything she possibly could to get this team over the line yeah I give her I give her a B I thought it was that's fair I don't have a lot of critiquing of actual moves she made I would say get get a stats guys you're as your right hand man to help with a bunch of stuff she had one of the best that you could ever imagine with Justin Ray manage difficult situations like you said I think this is the part where we tear apart captain's he's usually and I really don't have a ton to say it does feel like it was a captain of a different generation yeah versus Anna is very much a bridge between this

1:34:50generation and the next so I'll say well yeah I'm going to say a B as well um she speaks so well she had a plan she stuck to her plan she had stats Jay Ray there it sounds like I think a little bit of that at least is comes down to a funding thing um because you know Justin's going to provide everything that he possibly can uh but you got to have the the the bodies and the manpower in able to do that um I was was more impressed because herve a player as a player shoot as a bulldog and was like very kind of stuck inner ways and this is the way it's going to be and and didn't let a lot of people tell her you know anything different and as a captain cheap appeared very open and welcoming to suggestions from everything and and this this solheim cup could have very easily gone the other way and I'm going to say the exact same thing that I said about Anna is that I would love

1:35:52to see her come back again there is a difference in age but I think there's easy ways to bridge that and it appeared that from the players like there's little things but I think they all bought into it you know and where we're going is that we're going to have we have a lot of us captain candidates coming up and they're all of that you know older generation now of of high 30s to into their 40s and that's led really by Morgan and then Paula yeah probably Paula and I would say haven't heard anything but yeah but it'll it'll be very interesting because I think you know for Morgan's full-time job I know she she was excused from it to be a vice captain but I think this would take a lot more time of her traveling and playing or not playing but talking and spending a lot more time with the players and not just up in the broadcast booth I don't know if if that's where

1:36:53she wants to be right now so I don't know but Paula super impressed she was awesome this week great hat too big text I just you know we've done several shows here this week we had a Friday show did a Saturday show and we we've we've spoken a lot just want to revisit and re-hashford I know a lot of people listen to the Sunday show that Bernardo's was an awesome venue awesome venue the crowds were incredible the energy was incredible even with the we showed up this morning it was raining we're kind of like ah this is going to be tough I would this could have been a great moment for the LPGA ladies your P and Torren soulheim cup a great close Sunday everybody was here today the crowds were amazing even on this Sunday in the rain it was so rainy it was tough it was very tough and it was just a dream venue I hope this place gets another soulheim cup honestly on soon or rather than later because haven't been to many of these but and I meant to ask a question to some of the players to some where this ranks I know they're kind of give political answers on that but this is up there and band-aid I spoke about it in the presser as well of just how cool it was to

1:37:55bring an event here and how you know great the golf federations doing here and they nailed it set up everything like it was I've listened to you guys on the podcast last couple times talk about this not being the greatest experience doing it first every single thing that they got wrong in Spain and at RTJ both the LET and the LPGA was there was this was a pretty much a flaw this week it was incredible and then boss has been great where we stayed yes lively you know we're getting it's almost 10 o'clock now I don't know what we're gonna do for dinner but we've been able to find dinner post 10 p.m. each last two nights we're gonna be in trouble I think tonight this was going a little long I think the yeah the like the the course was presented beautifully now Richardson the superintendent and his staff awesome work it's fast-skilled Kyle Phillips like shout to him like this place is is tailor-made for a match play competition again we've talked about it every night they talked about it in post-traumat and pressers the decision to change the routing to fit a match play tournament and the natural amputeaters that Kyle Phillips figured out

1:39:00how to route out here are so damn cool and if you're looking for like what major championship venues and try to create that that feeling that we never get at women's events because everything is too big of a scale and then you put grand scans out and they're usually too small and honestly they don't get filled it was full out here you actually had it was it was two to three deep at points and it felt major it was awesome to actually see it and there were just points of energy like that 12 14 15 here on 16 right pop the first tee die on the first first tee die is awesome great die I'll say this die Stewart die Stewart has more energy than anyone else that I've met in golf I don't know how many jobs she has but bouncing up and down getting everybody fired up using the DJ everybody on the first tee every single morning doing you know players announcements and then closing ceremonies it's it's a lot and I don't know how she keeps her voice as fresh as she does

1:40:05but she crushed it how was the bomb me sandwich that was good explored a couple more food trucks food trucks of course all this stuff it's because you know I think they learned again their lesson in Spain IMG they've just they've crushed it at every single level Michelle and Izzy are media contacts they've done everything that we possibly could do to include being able to do shows here on site which like most people we know we're probably like the last people on site right now and they're waiting for us it's just really cool and it feels great to to be rewarded because we just want to showcase these awesome events and the awesome players I think the I'll also give a shout out to the club for hosting the junior soulheim cup I was talking to a couple people about that this week in like this is the first time they've had it on site at the event and I think that's a big thing and I would encourage that to happen at Valhalla and where they have like that's a you've

1:41:05got Astros Talley here probably the next five soulheim cups this is such a good experience for them and I think like of course doesn't get that much play this week like it's it's match play and there's only you know at max 12 12 groups out there and it's the first pro golf event I've been to in a while where I'm like damn I want to come play this course yeah the Heather the the the tight surrounds all of it is just it's it's really really tastefully done yeah so I do I never do this this is usually back back of the scenes you know we have 13 minutes to finish this show I'm trying else we are going to lose internet yes okay we are going to go quickly listen we did not get to watch the hours open Shane Lowry one by 11 shots props to him pee finish second looking a lot of freaking people out there at Dune Bag you give a great review having seen Dune Bag a second time through recently yeah didn't get to watch any of it only clip I saw was Shane hooking one

1:42:06and saying that somebody deserved to be hit he was getting very roasted for that one deservedly it sound like I don't know what the context was of that one but strike 18 on my guy Shane five more than 63 65 63 on the weekend that's strong great see wait second time he's winning his national open to Ali keep your politics out of my sports for sure first yeah pee pee and walko finish second Rasmus near guard Peters and fourth it's kind of a big big week for the Danes overall Jacob Skull of Olison was was seventh Johnny Rambo the any concerns there Johnny Rambo finished T23 with Joel don't call me Elvis Gerbach David Law David Mickaloozy thanks of that nature yeah it's all going great for my guy for my guy Rambo he finished one behind former former clique burned Vsberger all right we're ready to move on from that one I tease that we were

1:43:06going to talk about live bankruptcy let me let give us a give us a little time to dive into that one that could be a future one I think we're gonna have plenty of time to catch up on a lot of live stuff I will shout out Sean's not kind of a piece of just nine takeaways from it some some some fun little details that that came with that Phil's Phil's got an equity stake and live was one of the things learned and yeah just some some some nice details and small nuggets in there quick one for everyone before we go everyone in Chicago keep Wednesday September 23rd open myself Tc and DJ we're going to be doing a free live event with high noon ahead of the president's cup I'm gonna be hanging out gonna talk some golf I'll do a little Q&A I'll give some stuff away as we warm up for the weekend Emma Dina we're gonna be announcing the venue in our newsletter this week and on social media stay tuned on those channels for for all of the details there so look forward to that one greatly so we've got a great great pod coming out this week with Mike cocking my chat with Mike cocking we talked about the renovation restoration renovation transformation I guess of

1:44:06Madonna head of the president's cup as well we'll have a ton of president's cup content as well that week but you can look forward to that episode on Tuesday yeah and then yeah lastly I want to just may a culpa on my end of sorts I got this one wrong I was went back and listened to it I was I put forth some inaccurate information about Bally Bunyan and the way I delivered it was it wasn't meant to be malicious but I think it came off as such and and totally owned that I talked to both John Bamberry the the superintendent of Bally Bunyan and John Agost and the GM both of whom are extremely well regarded in the industry and I think you know just coming from a place of hey I appreciate them being so gracious with me and hoping to a pod with them in the future too so more to come there but but yeah just yeah didn't expect to kind of ruffle feathers with that and yeah totally totally on me so again appreciate everybody at Bally Bunyan for the time this week

1:45:09well said T.C. do you know that very much is a T.C. way right there do you know who I appreciate this week well I going on this week I appreciate Sully man I've been hearing about Sully spent three years in Amsterdam guys you know I lived in Europe for three years you set up the perfect trip you're the perfect host the perfect tour guide even though it's been years past everything that you ever said and how excited and joyce you got about it due to lived up to every single mark and I know it's hard when you're making recommendations and like you're like man am I like if I excited was it really that cool no dude it's like really cool it's a really cool spot and thanks for showing us a little slice even though it's changed a little bit but where your old stomping grounds were and I can't wait to put the video together because it's going to bang I have an easy part I've got to experience it just made suggestions T.C. did a lot more of the planning but thank you thank you for for saying that but it it's a special and we're not in Amsterdam but Amsterdam is obviously a very special place to me but I was just so stoked to come

1:46:12back to the Netherlands and just you know it's not the biggest golf country but it's not in coming golf country I think they they love they have a lot of great golf offerings which you will see in the videos when we get there as well and this was just I don't know man this was this was a very very peak week for me I don't want to say I have to think on it maybe like my favorite week of the year but it's pretty darn close with the golf we got to play getting to go around Amsterdam and getting to witness this event and and yeah it's time to go home tomorrow unfortunately but I had a lot of a lot of fun coming back here and covering the event and I would I would call it the most underrated golf destination I've I've been to ever um just that combinations of culture and things to do in a amazing city and also drive between 25 and 50 minutes to like a bunch of world-class golf course that is not especially prevalent prevalent in a good proximity in continental Europe like UK Ireland you know all that is it's a different

1:47:15category in terms of proximity and volume but like the Netherlands has an incredible offer or triples probably the nearest comp and that's a different style it's more resorting very cold and and kind of classic design and it's resority but it's beautiful but like this is this is a great place and and yeah gosh I can't wait for people to see we played three rounds I like I come back and play another like you can come back and play another four or five rounds and play totally different courses come back and play I know and Hilvers or I know of in Cantermer Nordwikes being redone right now uh play this place I mean and and you know and still and still have justice good of a trip but DePon will stick with me for a really really long time if it's that is that's a pretty magical golf course and you played awful if I might say so that that that means that's a high cup and it was rainy and it was and man I was like I did not want that round to end. Okay okay okay thank you uh yeah Soulheim Cup guys another Soulheim Cup down uh these things are go like if you get a chance to go to one um I I don't want to miss one of these in the next

1:48:22deck like they're it's just it's like it's among my favorite events of the year. Yeah so I'm through Vaughalla I'll say this a lot of the LBJ tour folks here saw this we saw the visit Louisville people here uh they were making solid bourbons and and provided pizza and things like that. Trying to try and do it. Trying to win. Engraged you over early uh but come to Vaughalla make it I guarantee you uh it's it will be one of the most fun team events of Pure Golf that that you'll see so we will be there in all likelihood uh and uh yeah we'll be back yeah not live next weekend but live the following week for Presidents Cup we get to do this all all over again so thank you so much for everyone for tuning in the people that are here live on NFL Sunday greatly appreciate that those that watch our Friday and Saturday shows uh as well thank you to our friends at title list high noon and holderness and born time to go on some airplanes go home T.C. has got a little traveling to do with his wife who made the trip over which is awesome and uh we have we're getting our internet cut here very soon but it's time to find some dinner somehow and then Bosch at 11 p.m. and let's hope we get lucky but

1:49:25thanks for tuning in see you back here next week cheers crack on