
Zelensky’s Press Secretary Returns From Exile With a Message for the Tyrant
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" the main discussion revolves around the return of Zelensky’s press secretary from exile and the pressing issues surrounding the ongoing conflict in Ukraine. The press secretary details the repercussions faced after an earlier interview with the show, including censorship and sanctions imposed by the Ukrainian government. The press secretary highlights the severe consequences of the war, mentioning the high number of casualties among Ukrainian soldiers and civilians, estimating around 30,000 deaths or injuries per month. They argue that the current war policy is suicidal, leading to the degradation of society, economy, and democracy in Ukraine. The press secretary also discusses the corruption and inhumane practices within the forced mobilization process in Ukraine, where bribery is rampant, and conscription offices engage in torture and beatings. They emphasize the widespread opposition to both the war and Zelensky’s government, suggesting that many Ukrainians desire peace and are willing to leave the country to escape the ongoing turmoil. Additionally, the press secretary questions the motives behind European leaders' willingness to join the war, suggesting that financial gains from defense budgets and media manipulation play a significant role. They call for a more realistic path towards peace to restore Ukraine’s economy and democracy, stressing the urgent need to stop the war to preserve the nation.
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So thank you for coming back and I just want to say I'm sorry I knew there would be repercussions for your first interview that you did earlier this year with us and apparently they were there were can you tell us what happened after that interview aired? Well yes actually thank you for giving me the platform first time and now because right now Ukrainians are facing huge censorship everywhere thanks to all of them on the landscape and our interview from me was a trouble I know that after our interview the landscape ordered to have some kind of so-called linguistic expertise and this is a corrupt practice that exists in the government of Ukraine that helps them prove something that they want to prove to execute their political persecution so this linguistic expertise is still ongoing however I'm already under sanctions if this linguistic expertise is finished I'm going to
phase the treason charges that in Ukraine under martial law can be from 15 years of prison to live sentence so this is absolutely crazy but let me explain why I am under sanctions I was invited to have a speech in the European Parliament by the alternative for Germany and the one of the most actually popular party in Germany and this was supposed to be a speech about the necessity of peace for Ukraine we announced this speech I think approximately September 10th and on September the Lansky introduced imposed sanctions on me so what happened next was that when I write to the European Parliament on September 16th when my speech needed to take place I was buried from entering the European Parliament and we were told they didn't know the reason but that personally Roberto Mitzola who is the head of the European Parliament banned me from entering they
also tried to ban the video transmission and they did not allow to translate my speech into German and French thanks to FD we managed somehow technically to have video transmission and I even answered the questions however this shows a very huge problem because I had a lot of questions from Western journalists why Ukrainians don't speak about the necessity of peace one journalist even told me that he had a feeling that no one in Ukraine except of ULM and L wanted peace but I see this growing tendency and I'm sitting here absolutely sure that majority of Ukrainians want peace as soon as possible because I get enormous support from everywhere but nobody sees that and I thought that it was the problem you know Ukrainians didn't have enough people to talk enough context enough you know experience or skills to reach the bigger platforms but it happened that
there is just a censorship a huge censorship nobody wants to listen to Ukrainians who call for peace and this is them to be frank this is so hard to break in and so disappointing because Ukraine today is looking at European Union and the plays and the plays of democracy or freedom of speech but in fact it is very far from the reality um yeah so I'm under sanctions what it means it means that I cannot make any financial operations in Ukraine no buying selling properties cars nothing my financial accounts are banned my business accounts are cancelled banned I cannot have any bank accounts today but there is another thing that the Lensky introduced in the sanctions my three accounts in social media it is Facebook Instagram and X and he requested that these accounts are banned from Ukrainian audience from the people who live
in Ukraine and if it's possible I would really love to to appeal to address today to the people who work in matter company and in X not asking only for myself but asking for all Ukrainians who are on systematic basis are banned from talking to the Ukrainians in Ukraine this happens all the time I know the bloggers who repeatedly restart their pages because they call for peace and then the Ministry of Culture of Ukraine requests to ban their accounts from from Ukrainians and if it's possible I just would like to underline that for Ukrainians today social media is the only way actually to to talk about peace and if if these accounts are banned my accounts and accounts of other Ukrainians then then it actually disrupts any kind of communication because Ukrainians today discuss what are the possibilities of peace how we see it what are the issues for post for Ukraine what
we can accept this is the real matter and I really would ask you know to to to be attentive to this because this is our way to show the world to show journalists to show politicians that there is this necessity to have peace it's such a remarkable story um I remember our interview very well in in it you spoke as a Ukrainian as a Ukrainian nationalist to someone who loves Ukraine as someone who is very critical of Russia and Vladimir Putin you spoke directly to Putin in the interview and not in a friendly way you said please stop and so nothing you said uh nothing I've seen you say is pro-Russian or anti-Ukraine you're simply against watching your entire population male population get killed and so I don't understand how is that treason uh yeah so this is a very corrupt practicing Ukraine that actually allows the the politicians to persecute this loyal people
and Zelensky uh doesn't want anyone to talk about peace because um you know gd events once wrote uh in a remarkable essay in the New York Times where he said that the math in Ukraine does not adapt and over two years have passed through that since that's say and the math in Ukraine still doesn't add up will lose people every day will lose territories every day just uh for you the latest information that we got um the prime minister of Poland said that uh our his Ukrainian colleagues told him that Ukraine loses killed and wounded 27 thousand of soldiers monthly in the frontline uh add to this only verified UN numbers of killed and wounded civilians and it is around three thousand so we get around 30 thousand of Ukrainians soldiers and civilians dead or wounded every month right it's a terrible number and um if you think about the number of population in 35 years of independence Ukraine has lost over half of its population right so uh to
be frank the war's attrition with Russia is nothing but suicidal policy suicidal war so I never justified what Putin has done and I call this the crimes against humanity and I will rate or rate this cruelty is unimaginable but it doesn't mean that what Zelensky is doing is good for Ukraine yes because his policies are also suicidal absolutely suicidal so uh we counted the population in Ukraine and right now maximum we have four million of men of of of conscription age in Russia there are uh 38 42 million of men so 10 times more I mean this is absolutely suicidal to continue this war and let me say you that many people who support Ukraine they think that if Ukraine continues this war we will stay independent and preserve our sovereignty but this is very much vice versa because we are following now Afghanistan path and if this war continues we have many more
chances to become a vassal state and actually to have enormous degradation of society economy and everything then if we try to find realistic path towards peace today and then try to restore our economy our democracy have elections you know try to return our people and maybe later with time if we have good diplomats at the table maybe you know just maybe we will be able to return the territories but right now we're choosing between the territories and people and we are losing both but most importantly we'll lose our people so this was what I told in the hurricane parliament and um after that um Roberto Mitzola sent her chief of staff to the FD he tried to apologize uh to the organizer from ifd Hansen Uhoff and said that uh they were um told that I'm gonna spread russian propaganda i'm a Ukrainian patriot uh i'm uh having a lot of support from
Ukrainians from every region today uh writing you know messaging comments everything people wanted these to be out and um another point of this before this speech was banned uh I tried actually to reach the chief of staff of Roberto Mitzola i wanted to talk to him i was eager to show him this speech but they didn't want to listen to anything they just banned it based on getting information from Ukraine some Ukrainians uh were writing that this is personally Valorim Zalansky who asked to baritama to sell uh to ban me from the speech and now i'm facing a lot of attacks on social media my accounts are being attacked a lot of bots are there uh you know they're even trying to ban my telegram channel so i guess that there is a huge attention from the office of the president all he's you know talking heads we're talking about talking heads they are attacking me but there is this fight at least there is this fight and i need to tell you that our interview really opened uh a lot of
things for Ukrainians i got a lot of thanks a lot of bloggers started talking more about what's the they see around about the necessity to stop the war i got a lot of thanks they said thank you you live for your interview to target curl some you opened our eyes so i'm sitting here understanding that you are one of a few platforms where Ukrainians can scream about the necessity of of peace just to preserve ourselves our self-assonation as a country as independent state lots of people are using peptides to get in shape not all peptides are the same if you take them do you really know what you're ingesting probably not joy and blokes makes it very simple you start with an easy online health assessment then if necessary your license clinician will order comprehensive lab work to understand exactly what prescription is best for you not everybody just for you it's a complete review to ensure the best results your peptide protocol is built specifically around you so there's no guesswork there's not a one-size-fits-all plan it's totally
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invited a Ukrainian girl 10 year old girl who lost her uh lean put you to russian shelling she's a dancer and she continues dancing and uh also a wonderland showed this girl and made pair in her and with this girl she justified the necessity to continue the war in Ukraine it caused a lot of outrage because I look at this girl and this is the difference of perspective I look at her and I I back to stop this war that Ukrainian children don't lose their limbs eyes you know my parents are doctors at front line regions and the stories that they tell about children you know that they got in the hospital they are terrified like you know wound in the head were a lost uh a hand or for instance a 23 days old girl that was killed due to russian shelling and again I'm not minimizing russian guilt the thing is that if we want to preserve Ukraine Ukrainian nation we need
to think about realistic ways of how to stop this war but what I see the landscape is doing he keeps changing the conditions for the peace and he also introduces so maximally unachievable ways for the peace that I don't believe that he wants to get it at all that's there have been calls uh from some in the neo conservative foreign policy community here in the united states and in europe to start drafting women because so many Ukrainian men have been killed draft Ukrainian women and send them into the meat grinder is that a popular idea in Ukraine do you think uh it's not popular idea to fight at all neither for men nor for women of course a lot of hatred a lot of outrage and to be frank a lot of desire to leave the country yes um I will just remind you that our after our interview I cannot return to Ukraine because there is a huge attention to that question how about uh I believe that if if they move with further mobilization of
women and lowering the conscription age there could be really a revolution and um Ukrainians are at the verge let me just describe a few facts about how the forced mobilization is happening so um by uh onwoodsman data only two three percent of men have been forcefully conscripted to the front line actually get to the fight all others pay bribes we count it and the conservative only count of the bribes that exist in the sector of forced mobilization to avoid front line can reach up to five billion dollars annually this is enormous corruption and this is so enormous corruption that we understand that it is covered from the top it cannot just exist and then we build a low level another thing that was discovered our after our interview was um that actually in conscription offices throughout torture beating some men die uh in this is so inhuman uh actually
on the streets of Ukraine today uh women defend men um there is fighting sometimes sometimes men need to use their weapons against the state that tries to drag them to the front line or demand bribes and there is a huge opposition towards both the war and the lensky's government it is so terrible so many men they even do not get out of their house for weeks months and some men sit in their houses for years just to to you know not to be grabbed on the street not to be beaten not to be tortured and not to be sent to the front line i can't imagine this is my country this is so painful i can't imagine how anyone could say this is russian propaganda this is everywhere every Ukrainian is standing against it and i'm here to beg you to understand that only finishing this war and preserve Ukraine as a nation in the state we we um have been told in the west that democracy
Ukraine is fighting tyranny Russia but there are no elections for president in Ukraine how how do you think if zalensky were to allow an election if he were to stand for election let voters decide whether to keep him in office would he win that election you know i will tell you that inside that today was out but i knew this earlier in july or june zalensky was thinking about conducting elections but he actually didn't want to have free elections he wanted to have the manufactured so he invited the former commander in chief and his chief of staff will enjoy some kind of rating today in Ukraine and uh ask them not to run for presidency but to support him as the only candidate of of the potential of lies and at least one of them refused uh and under any circumstances it doesn't matter how corrupt the elections in Ukraine today are zalensky doesn't have chances to win them so he understood that he will lose elections and now we
hear the public statements that we cannot just conduct the elections we have a lot of people out of the country then the next reason we have soldiers who cannot vote in front line then the next reason we have a lot of shalings so we cannot organize elections so he will be coming up with any kind of reason to explain to the public why elections are not possible but i will remind to your audience that up for today he's standing power for seven and a half years and for him finishing this war is a suicidal policy because this is a political suicide he's not going to stay in power this war gives him money gives him power and gives him um gives him red carpets and the fame that he enjoys why doesn't the United States which is making this war possible through the targeting information it gives the Ukrainian military from our intelligence agencies why doesn't the Trump administration force zalensky to leave he's not an elected leader he's eliminated civil liberties freedoms in Ukraine why not just tell him to leave and have an election
yeah russia had wartime elections you can have wartime elections it happens all the time why don't they do that i can't answer for president Trump um but uh maybe he doesn't want to meddle in their politics off another country you know um the problem is that since the last time we talked um president zalensky um uh changed the strategy and uh he convinced the western partners to have escalation and this escalation has more sense situation in Ukraine enormously so for us for for Ukrainians it was really very weird to read the american news for the first half of summer where american media outlets were saying that Ukraine is winning the war because we never have been even close to winning the war we were suffering and uh in july we had the record of civilian deaths and wounded people since uh made 2022 uh actually what happened russia started destroying our
warehouses we have over 90 percent of warehouses destroyed with all the everyday needs that you know Ukrainians as ordinary people use including food including you know clotheys including gadgets and and and many other things we have um destroyed gas stations we have for enormous ruins in interview infrastructure etc etc so what are Ukrainians i expecting is actually our humanitarian catastrophic winter and many are leaving today so the west should expect more refugees and to be for anguish is very inhuman to not accept them because i don't know how people will be surviving without heat without light without food you know in the country under shally without a credit ruling where people can be grabbed on the streets and sent to the front most people don't like thinking about life insurance it's one of those topics you tend to kind of put off but if you're married you've got kids you've got people who depend on you you probably should think about what would happen if you weren't around and that's what we've partnered with
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would really encourage my western media colleagues journalist to investigate deeper what's happening there behind you know media publicity with all this drones production right but just for your audience to explain how the distribution of age for your crane works so for instance if we are promised 45 billion of year per year like so to for instance 30 billion of this money goes to drone production or weapons production and majority of this money doesn't go to Ukraine it goes to the countries who actually distribute the money so like Ryan Nitel for instance or french producers so these weapons producers really enjoy enormous amounts of money and to be frank as a pure person i was following this enormous PR happening in media and i think that if we follow the money we can explain a lot of things happening like for instance just before native summit in unkaray in july there were all these messages that Ukraine was winning the war and then
mark root and now it's 140 billion euro of aid and in a week we didn't get any more messages about Ukraine winning and in two weeks we started getting messages that Ukraine is losing Ukraine doesn't have interceptors we have any humanitarian catastrophic approaching etc etc etc then at the end of summer we started reading a lot of news about starting off world were three about Russia trying to attack native countries though a lot of native officials were saying that they don't see any kind of preparation for this and again i don't want anyhow to flatter Russia or to justify what it is doing but it is very strange to hear that the country that cannot cope with Ukraine that is not in NATO not in EU and doesn't have even its own economy would want to attack native countries so then we understood that at the same time when there are these media headlines media headlines there is a discussion of the next seven year budget from 2028 to 2034 and of course the defense budget
they are very tasty so perhaps european union just wants to preserve those defense budgets and to preserve them they need to justify in the media and today people why their defense budgets are so huge so they say about the world was three you know they escalate the rhetoric and just afraid where it will lead all of us because when i see the taste of european towards the war i don't believe that europeans want to fight and actually the rating of mr meris for instance recordly low 10% and and getting lower and lower tells about that and then we have the party that promotes peace and they grade the record of popularity because people don't want war people want their leaders to talk to russia people want their leaders to guarantee that there will be no war and as a Ukrainian i will tell you that many westernists wouldn't read people they look at this war as holywood movie and it is not it is a disaster it is a degradation of
morality of a humanity it is death it is the worst thing that could happen to you i'll remind you the story how one american professor advised an american student to go to the front line in your crane the guy went there he was shocked from the reality he pledged to get him out and the professor just sent everyone who was makes history in their own place what is that i mean how many professors they in america actually you know try to send your students to the war don't do that help us stop the war um yeah well how many professors in the united states are serving on the front lines of the crane war how many neo conservative think tank employees are doing that is is a lensky volunteering to go fight his own war of course not none of the people pushing this war are putting their own lives at risk they're destroying an entire population for money popularity power but none of them are willing to die for it other people die for it if i may add when zalensky was not the president he
was invited to join the front line in done bars for four times and he did not do that he declined he avoided conscription and now he is grabbing man on the street and sending them forcefully to the front line is zalensky himself avoided conscription for times yes this is public information in your crane so he's very far from Churchill that he is compared to there is not a story um you know i come from mainstream media i respect my colleagues who work there but i had this very strange experience when i wanted to publish an article about peace and i sent it to a very famous american media and they declined of course without any explanation i didn't have any attack on the lensky there you may still read it online you know there was nothing political there was just a gallop poll that was saying that majority of ukrainians wanted peace and there were argumentation why we needed to have i the ceasefire peace because we were we were just declining degrading as a nation so i was declined to publish that peace and in some time i saw how the same media
published a London professor who actually was just to find this war because he was saying how Russia is suffering without mentioning how Ukraine was suffering how much we were losing you know how many people were losing so i just googled if this professor has ever been to Russia or to Ukraine and i was shocked to know that no he has never been to any of these countries he just gets his information from uh social media and that's how he has you know some kind of imagination in his head or what's going on and he produces this to your people and so your people believe that this war is any kind of justification what i understood after the lensky convinced western partners to have escalation of this war is that in the west many more people want Russia burned than Ukraine to be saved right and this is a terrible realization to be framed because my country is dying in front of you and you keep applauding one man on the red carpet who sells you i'm sorry to say total nonsense
total bullshit so i'm here to bat from ukrainian please don't contribute to escalation of this war please do everything to stop it because we will disappear from the map owning a home has always been the core of the american dream is the asset that families work their lives to build place of stability security and actual wealth but too many homeowners right now are stuck sweeping credit cards to cover groceries paying a survival tax of 20% interest or more so we're against debt we always say that but you can't buy a house without debt right now almost anybody has to take out a loan so the question is who you're going to get a loan from why are you handing your money to big banks when you keep it for your family our friends that american financing have a better way they're helping homeowners tap into their hard earned equity they're supporting americans looking to fulfill the american dream of owning a home american financing saves its customers an average of eight hundred bucks a month that's nearly ten thousand dollars a year it's not just a loan it's a total financial reset and so
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we buy gold actual gold not abstract gold but gold you can hold gold has always been a store of value in a safe haven investment for all of history and more than that is turned out to be a great investment it's outperform the s and p five hundred over the last twenty five years since nine eleven that's pretty interesting so we believe in gold for real and the most important thing when you buy gold is getting a fair price but it's impossible to do that it's not easy to buy gold except at some crazy markup from some company that advertises on cable news and that's wrong so we found a battalion metals simple goal provide Americans with an honest and easy way to buy physical gold explore your options secure your savings in gold at battalion medals dot com slash battalion offers safe storage discrete shipping and legitimately expert help with precious metals IRAs visit battalion medals dot com slash Tucker today well and as far as I understand under
Zelensky the Ukrainian legislative body made it legal for foreigners to buy Ukrainian farmland is now legal and Zelensky has announced that Ukraine will be importing foreigners because they don't have enough manpower to run an economy and so it's possible in ten years there will be no Ukraine it's land will be owned by foreigners and it's population will be foreign so nation gone so even if we don't you know mention these facts there are there is the math it just doesn't work like if we have around a little bit more than twenty million of people staying in the country down from fifty two million in 1991 around twelve million of these people are pensioners and people with disabilities if you count down children then you know we almost do not have any workforce and people obviously are living we lose from six hundred to eight hundred
thousand of people only officially only officially last year we had three times more deaths than birth this year in the first half of this year we had four times more deaths than birth the demography is just catastrophic and I'm absolutely sure that every American who is a patriot to his own country if he or she would be in this condition and see your own country in this condition you would never agree to this you would never agree to this you would be also calling for peace to preserve American nation this is very petrol what to call for peace it's not Russian propaganda peace cannot be per Russian I want this to be heard peace cannot be per Russian do you believe that Zelensky and his family have gotten richer during this war so let's just stick to facts right there is a company which is called fire point and if you just
google you will find that key of independence it's a Ukrainian media plant figured out that there is a Voldemort's landscape is a long-term partner business partner staying behind this company and after our interview there were wiretaps that were published unfortunately only in Ukraine and on these wiretaps produced by anti-corruption bodies there were dialects between the minister of defense appointed by Rolensky and then the partner of president Zelensky talking about billions of years that were going to a fire point you create today's droning in corruption corruption scandals about millions millions tens of millions of dollars are sounding every day and there are businesses that are created just for money laundering like for instance call centers businesses or gambling businesses where hundreds of millions of dollars can be money laundered
monthly so I don't know if Zelensky is banishing or you know he pretends not to know or he does not know what is worse than that right but I guess you know we will need to learn a lot about his bank accounts post war and I need to remind to Americans that almost every person near Zelensky is accused in corruption for instance his chief of staff under Yermak formative of staff is accused in ten a million of dollars money laundering but this money he was building full luxury mentions in Kiev region this mentions belong to three people who are very close to Zelensky family and the last mentioned belongs to a person named Vova Vova is diminishing form of followed and in the country there is a big question who is Vova who was building a luxury mention in Kiev region and obviously for majority of the people the answer is it's voldemr Zelensky's cottage
the other thing which is very disgusting what we've learned is that he was building those mentions before the war then when the light scale invasion started he stopped and they restored building the house in March 2022 so while Ukrainians were just sitting under Russian missiles and dying and not knowing what to do next losing their houses losing their hope running away as Zelensky and his friends restarted building luxury mentions in the Kiev region for me personally it's all the lot about a person well I mean it's it's beyond belief to do something like that during a war in which your entire nation is being destroyed suggests he doesn't care about the nation do you think that Zelensky does care about Ukraine and if he does why is he continuing this I still like he stands only for his own personal interests recently I was talking to one person has known him
for tens of years he is very close and the guy said that he recognizes that Zelensky's reserves himself sacrificing thousands of lives of Ukrainians that's why the hatred towards Zelensky so huge in the country people don't accept what he is doing they don't accept the escalation and that is why it's so important that the voices from Ukraine sound in the platforms like yours or like European Parliament and so this is you know this is really heartbreaking that we are bent that nobody hears Ukrainians want peace and this is the majority up to now the latest Gallup poll said that 66 percent of Ukrainians want peace as soon as possible every next piece deal for Ukraine is worse and worse because we'll lose more territories it's more difficult to get more territories back and we'll lose more people and we're not gonna you know return those people our economies in anomously bad
shape because European Union gives us loan after loan we have our debt external debt already equal to 100 and 10 percent of GDP and here is another bad mess Russia has not even borough for this war so like how are we expected military victory from the country that doesn't have enough people doesn't have economy that is losing democracy that is a cage and against you know Russia who has resources who still continues trade with the EU and and and who has so much more to win this war of attrition of course and you know we had we had a singer very famous singer in Ukraine just done given the interview and she said that Ukraine looks for her like a concentration can and so many people supported her she got enormous support but after that she also got some
call from political circles and she needed just to apologize and say that she did not mean that so everything that is being said against policies in Ukraine or critical to Vladimir Zelensky is announced to be a Russian propaganda the the same way as it's my speech was in the European Parliament and we're just banned to to have this freedom of expression freedom of speech criticize disagree anything anything that Ukrainian good Ukrainian patriot can do is just die for his own country that's that's what the Lensky suggests us to do how do you think Zelensky thinks this will end i don't think that he is thinking about ending this war because in the same months he understood that elections are not possible mr. Yermak will still advising to Vladimir Zelensky and meeting him at home i said that it's bad just to continue the
war for the next two years because Zelensky and Yermak and his government are sure that they have got allocated eight military aid for the next two years it is a disastrous type of thinking because unfortunately they are very bad at math again because even in august and september there is this call that Ukraine lacks of 27 billion of dollars for this year so he wants to take the money from the next year you know and this is what he has done from the previous year so Ukraine just doesn't produce any added value our metallurgy experts had been warmed out our agriculture is bombed out and severely restricted from the European Union Union quotas and many other you know for many other reasons and these are metallurgy and agriculture were our two major experts issues so today which is don't produce any added value any innovation any science except
of military drones there is the huge militarization of society radicalization of society and what I see is not the Ukraine that I was proud of it's just Ukraine that is degrading every day so yeah my point is that anything you know anything that can be done today to stop this war and to restore you know everything politics you know elections the country demography economy democracy it needs to be done today and there is no bad condition for the peace then now because the landscape promises you better conditions and but it will never happen there is no better conditions for peace than now my last question is if it's clear that Ukraine can't win because the numbers don't add up as you said and that's been obvious since the very first day why is Zelensky accelerating the attacks
on Russian targets within Russia Russian energy infrastructure refineries civilians what is his thinking why would he do that but this is how he gets money right he sends the fire point Russia burns he gets money for videos and photos of burning Russia people are unprotected 93% of our shelters cannot defend anyone we don't have closed skies the only thing that authorities today tell people on the frontline regions leave they don't offer any kind of financial aid they don't offer any shelter in any houses nothing what they offer is leave Ukrainians are surviving by themselves the money that western people are sending that western taxes they don't help Ukrainians today that's the point what they help is to produce more weapons fire point is the magic wand that Zelensky is advertising but there are some other companies
and so this is just business and this is the business on the blood and this is also and disgusting that's why I'm here at Tucker and thank you for giving me this platform it's one of the worst the worst stories I've ever heard and you are a brave woman for telling it and you have the first hand knowledge so I'm grateful and I hope that many people see this and I and I I wish you safety so thank you thank you very much thank you Tucker good luck to you too thank you
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