Yours Truly Johnny Dollar: The Caylin Matter, Episodes One and Two (EP4072)

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2:22all of the podcasts we do over at greatdetectives.net. Well now, it is time for this week's episode of your truly Johnny Dollar, the original Airdates, January 2nd and January 3rd, 1956. It's the Caitlin Manor episodes one and two. Step 2. Collector Welcome Bonus. Come to Papa Welcome Bonus. Step 3. Play hundreds of casino-style games for free. That's a lot of games all for free. Step 4. Unleash your excitement. Tempukasino has been delivering thrills for over a decade. So claim your free welcome bonus now and live the tumble life. Visit tempukasino.com. No purchase necessary VGW group void for prohibited by law 21 plus terms and conditions apply. From Hollywood, it's time now for Johnny Dollar. Walt Allbright Johnny, Trinity Mutual Ltd. Oh, hi, and Walt, how's your health?

3:24Terrible since you asked. I got asthma, Johnny. Again? I thought we agreed. I know. I get suspicious. I get asthma. Happens every time. Call me, will you? What's the case, Walt? My name is Eddie Kaylen. C-A-Y-L-I-N-O-N Los Angeles, died yesterday. $5,000 policy, double indemnity. What did he die of? Mysterious circumstances. Well, that's usually a fatal disease, all right? That's it, Johnny. That's all I know, Mysterious circumstances. The body was identified by the widow. I see. Our salesman out there can probably help you. He issued the policy only six weeks ago at the request of the widow. Six weeks, one premium paid check signed by the widow. They tell me something. What the beneficiary happened to be? Right, the widow. All this asthma is killing me, Johnny. You got to do something about it. All right, Walt. Just call me, doctor.

4:27Tonight and every weekday night, Bob Bailey in the transcribed adventures of the man with the action-packed expense account. America's fabulous freelance insurance investigator. It was truly Johnny Dollar. Expense accounts submitted by Special Investigator Johnny Dollar to the Home Office Trinity Mutual Insurance Company Limited Hartford, Connecticut. The following is accounting of expenditures during my investigation at the Kaylen matter. Item 1, $198.20, airline fare and incidentals, Hartford, Los Angeles. I hadn't arranged for anybody to meet me when I arrived at L.A., so I picked up my bags and headed for the taxi stand. Mr. Dollar, please wait a second. It was a small man nervous and fluttery with a shiny pink nose and a face like a little white rabbit.

5:28I was watching you out in the rain, but somehow you must have slipped mine. You are Mr. Dollar, aren't you? Yes, I'm Johnny Dollar, but I don't think I... Welch. Presley Welch. I'm the... Oh, yes, you're the district salesman here for Trinity Mutual. That's right. Oh, how are you, Mr. Welch? I'm out of breath at the moment from running you understand. You see, I'm troubled occasionally by asthma. You too. Do you have asthma, Mr. Dollar? No, it's a friend of wine and Hartford. Oh, in a... Oh, well, you don't say. Yes, in fact, I came out here just to cure it for him. Howty? Oh, this is the worst place you could have come. Oh, you see, the smog here is so... Oh, no, I do believe you're Josh. I guess I haven't there. Come on, let's head to my expensive house with a cup of coffee. Oh, you really think we should? Oh, why not? Let's be daring. All right, let's. I always say it for the company, California. If Presley Welch sold insurance the way he answered questions, it was amazing that he hadn't starved a dead years ago.

6:31He skidded around the field, flip-flopped overhead, and buzzed the tower all verbally. Of course, and for 15 minutes, he didn't touch a wheel to the ground. But when he did finally land, he came in with a swoop. I do hope you'd accept my apologies, Mr. Dollar, for causing all this trouble because the whole thing is my fault, of course. Oh, I don't see how, unless you murdered Eddie Kaelin. I may... Oh, why? I scarcely knew him. Ha, ha, ha. A perfect dialogue. Oh, no, no, no. You misunderstand. Well, I'm just Josh. What I meant was, I wrote the policy. And I knew better, right when I did it. Oh, what do you mean? Well, Mr. Kaelin was quite fissitious about the whole procedure. When I tried to point out the retirement security factors in our multiple endowment plan, he actually laughed. He don't, sir. Yes, he said all the security he'd asked for was two aces up in one for the kicker. Ha, ha, ha. Well, what about Mrs. Kaelin? What was her at it? Well, she was quite serious about it. Wasn't she the one who actually applied for the policy? Well, not technically.

7:31The beneficiary can't, you know, it's against the rule. Yeah, I know, but didn't she? Well, she was the one. Yes, that called me and asked me to come out and talk to her husband. And he finally signed the application. But he seemed to regard it as a joke. He only did it as a favor to her, something of that sort. And now it's turned out to be a $10,000 favor. What kind of a woman is she, Mr. Welch? Well, she's quiet, well-mannered. Quite charming, I thought. And as confess, I felt a good use, sympathy for her. In view of her husband's incessant flippances. So real happy for her. Oh, positively frivolous, Mr. Dowyer. And I should have been warned by his attitude. You know, insurance is a serious business. Oh, sure. But Eddie Kaelin didn't laugh himself today. Oh, no, Mario, he died in the fire when he's on a bill cover. Oh, laughter. Oh, I see what you mean. If they tell me, how well did you get to know the Kaelin's, Mr. Welch? Oh, hardly at all. I saw Mr. Kaelin twice, once at his apartment, the evening I sold in the policy.

8:32And then two weeks later, my office, when he came into sign the paper. And Mrs. Kaelin? Only once, that evening at their apartment. She phoned me earlier in the week. And you haven't seen her since her husband's death, huh? No, no. I phoned to express my sympathy, but that she wasn't available. She hasn't filed a claim yet. No, but I knew she would. So I took it on myself to notify Hartford. I just can't help feeling guilty about this, you know. Yes, sir, you mentioned. Yeah, I've not that I really am, of course. But, yeah, well, you understand, it's him. Oh, sure, I understand. Well, I'll keep in touch. Watch out for comedians, Mr. Welch. Watch out for whom? Oh, comedians, watch out for whom. Expense account, item three, $6.35. Taxi fare to the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. And a second taxi to the West Los Angeles Precinct Police Station. The case wasn't being handled by any of the usual departments, Bureau of Homicide, Missing Persons, and so on.

9:33The man in charge was Detective Sergeant Jose Renosa unattached, working out at the Central District on special assignment. Fill up chair, Mr. Dollar. When I talk with him in his office, Renosa told me the reason for it. Yeah, it's a funny deal, Mr. Dollar. The facts in the case could point a lot of different ways. But the way it stands right now, they just don't add up in any direction. At least not quite. You mind filling me in on some of those facts, Sergeant? Yeah, I'd be glad to. Last Thursday morning at 4.20 a.m., we got a call relay through the fire department to investigate a burned automobile out on the palace vertus headlight, up in the hills above the harbor. The car was lying in the bottom of a ravine below the road and it was a total loss. Apparently, the gas tank had burst and flooded the whole interior. Oh, what do you mean, apparently? Well, a poultry may have been deliberately soaked with gas. The arson squad isn't sure. I see. It's where this case doesn't quite fit in any niche, Mr. Dollar. It might be homicide, might be arson missing personally in accident. We're not sure yet. Anyway, there was a body in the driver's seat burned to a cinder, unrecognizable.

10:35But we did recover a few personal facts. And if signatory and keychain wristwatch with a strap burned off, a wallet badly scorched. I noticed the keychain has a metal tag with the address, stamped on it. Yeah, that and a part of the driver's license with the only leads. Eddie Kalin, Argus Terrace, apartments up on sunny way drive above the strip. So we went up there and we ran into a second surprise. What do you mean? A body home. We attained access, found the place in a mess. There apparently been a fight, a chair, and a couple of lamps were broken, and then we're blood stains in the living room. What about Mrs. Kalin? Located here at the next afternoon, she'd been spending a few days at Friends Cabin Up at Arrow as the friend confirmed. She was there alone at her own car. Well, she might have come back to town that night, but we got nothing to prove it. Or disproven. Right. Just another one of those maybes. So this case is a collection of maybes. Yeah, see what you mean. Tell me, Sergeant, just who was Eddie Kalin?

11:35Eddie Kalin, male Caucasian, height 511, weight 175, a complexion olive, hair, medium, brown eyes, gray, age 34, birthplace. Oh, what was he? What did he do? He called himself a promoter. Done a lot of things. Small-time agent for a while, handled few singers and dancers, Voidville and night clubs. Been a bookie often on, but mainly it was a gambler. Oh, and there's another maybe for you. Ah, sir. According to rumor, that he was in an all-day poker game. It broke up only a few hours before we found the car. The game was supposedly run by a big-time gambler named Toppo leanly. And the word has it that Eddie cleaned up, something over $60,000. And there was no money found on the body? Nope. Have you talked to this, uh, Toppo? Sternly. We had him in here for four hours this morning. He never heard of Eddie Kalin. Wouldn't know a poker deck if he saw one. Spends all his spare time raising petunias and driving his dear old mother to church. Like that. He's like that. So there's another one for you.

12:35Maybe Toppo didn't like the idea of losing 60 grand decided to get it back. Or maybe the widow wanted the insurance, or it could be that somebody else took a crack at him. Man, it's possible, of course, that Eddie mailed a $60,000 to a blonde and he'll walk in just and ran off the road by accident. Man, it's possible. But I don't think so. I don't think it was an accident. And I'm always getting cases like this. It's a kind of they always put me on. Officially, it's because I'm a college man, a majored in criminology. But actually, it's because I'm a Latin Mexican ancestry. And they know I get certain feelings about a case, hunches. And how do you feel about this one? Is hokey, real hokey. And it's murder, not an accident. But beyond that, again, sobbing. Why don't you poke into it a little, see what you can find? Then maybe we can talk it out some more over a bottle of musketele. Yeah, good idea. Where can I find Mrs. Kaelin? Well, the widow, well, that's a good starting point. She's out at their apartment.

13:35There's the address. OK, thanks. Oh, just one of the things, Sergeant Reno said, when you gained access to the apartment, I assumed the door was locked. Yeah, it took a little effort. What kind of a lock? Automatic nightlatch? You spring cylinder? No, it was an old fashioned warden boat. Had to be locked with a key. What are you getting at, Mr. Dollar? Or hunching my own, Sergeant. Let's save it for the musketele. See you later. Oh! Expense account item four, $2. Taxi to the Kaelin apartment in West Hollywood. It was shorting after dusk by now, and the lights were coming on all over the city. It was a cool, clear night, Los Angeles at its best. As we swung off the sunset strip and started climbing up into the hills, I looked back across the basin toward the dark mass of the Pellas Verde's headland that bounded the far side of the great carpet of lights. Three nights ago, a man had died over there in the darkness. And in a few minutes now, I'd be talking to his widow,

14:37or at least to the woman who claimed to be his widow. Keep the change. The Argus Terrace apartments, like most of them in that section, sprawled up the hillside above the street. Sixorate apartments on as many different levels, all opening onto a central patio filled with walks, steps, and banks of tropical plantings. The Kaelin's apartment was at the top, and I was still 50 feet from it when the door opened and the man came out and hurried toward me. I stepped back against the shrubbery and waited for him. Good evening, Mr. Welch. Oh, oh, man. Oh, it's you. Your second visit to Mrs. Kaelin? Second? Oh, yes, yes it is. I imagine you've been notified, too. Notified? Oh, yes. I got a wife in the home office in Hartford this evening. That's why I'm here.

15:38Well, Mrs. Kaelin has filed under the double indemnity clause of the policy, a claim for $10,000. She has. She hopes it can be paid immediately, and without any trouble. Well, I don't like to dash a lady's hopes, Mr. Welch, but I've got news for the widow. News? The claim won't be paid immediately, and before this is over, there's going to be a lot of trouble. In fact, Mr. Welch, if my hunch is right, this claim is not going to be paid at all. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Special investigator, the insurance company sent out. That's right. Mind if I come in. Alright, Mr. Dahler. Thanks.

16:39And through here your company didn't waste any time, did they? Sending you out here, I mean. No, no more than you did in filing your claim. I have a right to it. But that he gone now, I need the money. I see. Zeta. Thanks. How many keys are there to that door? Keys. What do you mean? How many keys do you have just one of course Eddie had one why but difference does it make just About enough difference to hang somebody cigarette Mrs. Cannon From special investigator Johnny dollar location Los Angeles to the home office Trinity Mutual Insurance Company Limited Hartford Connecticut Assignment the Kalen matter expense account continued That's quite a dramatic statement Mr. Dollar you prepared to name that somebody who may get hanged not at the moment

17:40Could it be that you don't have a name? That's possible of course, but you're just fishing so to speak bluffing Now, why would I do that with you? I don't know frankly, but you must have come here for some reason Yes, I wanted to ask you a few questions And you'd be smart to answer them under the circumstances what circumstances the only one I know anything about is the tragic one of losing my husband only three days ago You have my sympathy Mrs. Caylon. Sergeant Manosa question me for hours. There's nothing more to answer Will you go now please? All right, if you say so You're unwillingness to cooperate will undoubtedly prejudice your claim for the insurance That's all you care about isn't it finding some excuse for not paying off the power now wait a minute, Mrs. Caylon I'm not crooked and neither is the company if a claim is legitimate. They pay it always I'm sick of being under suspicion of being a cure I'm not accusing you of anything all I'm after is some information and if you refuse to give it Good night, Mrs. Caylon No wait

18:42Wait, Mr. Dollar yes, don't go come back, please I'm sorry Then under such a strain on edge forgive me. That's all right forget it. I didn't mean what I said, but I've answered so many questions And to go through all over again will seem so pointless. Yes, I understand But I've found that people say things to me sometimes that they forget to say to the police There are more relaxed I guess don't feel they're on the spot so much. That's true But I thought it was just me. Oh, you're not alone I remember something like that after I talked to Sergeant Renosa He wanted to know where Eddie hung out mostly bars and so on I only think of two what are the names of the bars, Mrs. Caylon? by the uh the Eloines on Beverly Boulevard and the brass monkey end on the strip What differences it make Eddie wasn't killed in the bar No, but he probably met people there talked to them

19:44You see it's a matter now of trying to reconstruct his life step by step right up to the moment he died You'd be surprised how much bartenders see in here and remember I suppose they do All right, Mr. Dollar I'll be glad to answer any questions you want to ask good one thing though I wasn't expecting visitors of course, and I wonder if I could have just five minutes to change and freshen up a little Oh, that's unnecessary. I won't be here long, but I'd feel better really Do you mind? No, of course not go ahead. I'll be right back Call yourself a drink Johnny I had the drink and waited and got ready to brace myself Haven't through this before A tight plan number two a common garden variety when you can't beat him join him And when the joiner is a lovely woman

20:46The maneuver usually starts with some paraphrase of slip into something more comfortable Why don't you have a drink and a sudden switch to first names And it always ends up with you and I against the world and Couldn't you forget just one little mistake The little mistake being something like arsenic and a husband's coffee And old familiar pattern and a first resort just as often as a last He was gone 20 minutes not five, but it was time well spent Carefully casual touch with a hair make a skillfully softened perfume And one of those frothy nylon jobs designed for that special evening in You'll go call charge Like another drinks, Johnny That thanks. I still have some. I think I could use one. Would you mind. Sure. What do you have Skyton Soda, please? Skyton Soda, please

21:48Thanks for being so patient I feel better now more comfortable, huh? Something like that easy on the soda. Right There you are Mrs. Killin Would you do something else for me? Oh, I'd be happy to But I don't know your first name Two Shay All right, what are your questions? How do you think it happened? I don't know Not some anime because Eddie didn't have any just friends Too many friends who are some of them There's only one who really fits the definition who who's really lasted his name is Pete Steinmer Where can I find him? You can't. Or at least the police haven't been able to. Nobody's seen him since that night He's had nightclubs off and on and in between he makes books. What about those other friends the ones who don't last? Drift in, drift out, depending mostly on whether Eddie had any money at the moment

22:52Of course there were women Oh Show girls mostly dances, strippers, so on. No any of them Hardly ever hear any of their names always made a point not to otherwise I'd have killed him long ago Did you kill a Mrs. Killin? No, did you love it? That's a good question I think I'll have to pass it though. I don't really know. I feel all hollow smashed up inside over what happened And yet there were times I'd have killed him myself if I'd had a gun But there were other times too when it was a crazy sweet you wanted to die Because you knew it'd never be like that again Yeah, that's what it was with Eddie Mad mixed up Like watching a ten ring circus from the front seat in a roller coaster

23:54That's why I women flocked around him That's why they always ran from him later. You didn't run Could I have another drink? Oh sure Were you trying to run when you went up to her ahead by yourself? Maybe we had a fight I ran out and told him I wasn't coming back And only three days later over the radio I heard where he'd been found dead And There you go I guess he called it shock I still can't really believe it even though I know it's true Well, and I guess you shouldn't know I understand you're the one who identified the body I identified a wallet Burnt black The wristwatch ring All of them things I bought for him They told me there wasn't anything that could be called a body Yeah, well, I'm sorry Mrs. Kellen. I know this is painful It's all right Like I said, I can't believe it

24:56Not really Do you have any other reason for not believing Eddie is really dead? I mean besides just a feeling No No, of course not. What do you mean? What do you mean? Well, I was just a question. That's all forget it But I let's get back for a moment to another question You said you were sure it wasn't some personal enemy who killed your husband Then what do you think? Well the same as the police I guess They said Eddie won a lot of money that night from some gambler named Toppo Linley You don't know this Toppo Linley, huh? No, but I suppose that's why Eddie was killed. The money wasn't found So I guess it was robbery Did you know about the money? Not all happened while I was up at Arrowhead Anyway Eddie ever had any money. I'd be the last one to know about it He always spent his money where it would show Wait, get something for it last Bells, whistles, balloons going up Not at home

25:57Never I'm sorry Forget I said that. I hate women who sit around drooling with self-pity Like you said I didn't run I guess maybe I did love him Mr. Dollar Is there anything else you can do? No, no, I guess not. At least not tonight You look a little beat Yes, I'm afraid I am You'd go around trying to keep up a front But it's been rough Yeah, I imagine well That business of a while ago Fixing myself up a little This robe I just had to do it There are times when a woman has to feel like a woman In order to feel anything Even saying I guess you wouldn't understand though And I'm afraid I gave the wrong impression No, I think I do understand

26:58No And I also think I owe you an apology For what? For walking in here with a preconceived opinion For being rude Being wrong I'm sorry Forgiven Forgiven Forgotten And Come back again, please Regardless I might On one condition Yes Your first name What do you mind? It's Lila Thanks Lila Good night Good night I caught a flash of movement from the corner of my eye And world around just in time to see somebody slip off the corner The terrace and the edge into the shadows of the shrubbery I stepped off the porch and moved toward the dark edge of banana and scrub balm I was watching for a sudden attack but nothing happened Then I heard a slight sound on the next terrace level up the slope For rustle of bushes and accidental scrape of a shoe and a cement walk And I slipped along the walk I stopped at the head of the steps and listened Nothing The only way out of the patio to reach the street was to come pass me

28:01I started searching But even though I was on guard when the attack came and caught me off balance All I could see was a dark shape and a glint of metal and an upright fist I grabbed the arm and twisted and drove one left and it was stomach and again He rode his knees and raised his right hand and again I saw the glint of metal I jumped on and grabbed his hand, twisted it back And at the same time I swung my foot and kicked him out of jaw Johnny Johnny are you all right? Yeah I'm all right Carl Sergeant Raynosa, would you Lila? It was out cold I turned him over on his back and struck a match to get a look at him He was a big man, stocky, bullnack blonde-haired I slid my hand inside his coat and fished out his wallet and opened it His name was Topo Linley

29:07Now here's our star to tell you about tomorrow's intriguing episode of this week's story Tomorrow we meet a latin doll from Santa Monica An air-heat-ite bartender and a turpsecorean ecticiest And they're all in the cast Join us, won't you? Yours truly? Johnny Dollar Your is truly Johnny Dollar starring Bob Bailey is transcribed in Hollywood Written by Les Pratchfield It is produced and directed by Jack John Stone Be sure to join us tomorrow night same time and station For the next exciting episode of your is truly Johnny Dollar Roy Rowan's Beacon

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32:40It's actually I think somewhere north probably closer to 22, 23 after this year And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on Awesome So how does someone do in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law That's pound 529 from your cell phone We are always open our call centers always waiting to take your call 24-7365 Wow, Dan Morgan From Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm Thanks for coming by the show Thanks for having me Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you Welcome back Well, this is an episode that shows the sort of two-edged sword of Johnny's experience He kind of knows patterns and is able to recognize them But sometimes can jump to conclusions that things apply universally And I think that that's behind the change of tone with Mrs. Kaylon

33:44I don't think he's ruled her out as a suspect at this point in the investigation But for now, he's giving her the benefit of the doubt These first two episodes are a lot about gathering information and setting the stage But with just enough action to keep it interesting Including the very sudden encounter with Toppo Linley Who wrap up episode two I think that also kind of serves to set the stage for bringing Linley more into the story Particularly as he may have a major role to play Although I will say I don't remember precisely how this one turns out yet So I'll be eager to see where this goes from here Well now we turn to listen our comments and feedback And we start on YouTube where Ron Sarat, regarding the Amy Bradshaw manner I've always wanted to order the inflatable animals

34:44But I guess the offer has expired Also I've always wondered if the offer was real or a giant scam This is a good question In terms of whether it's a scam, I would lean towards it being real At least in terms of them shipping out some product Running nationwide ads on CBS radio Even with the decline in advertising rates I would require a lot of capital And probably more than a eye-by-night organization would possess Whether folks got something that was really worth it I don't know, particularly at that rate What you may have bought may have been a bit disappointing Now I did do some research online to see if I could find any use sets or Unopen set and I could not

35:47But I think that from the description It sounds less like something that a toy collector would seek out And more like something that would go to the good will without a second thought Plus the inflatable element would also make it likely for parts of the set to get damaged So if there are any toy collectors and the audience who had it or somehow encountered it I'd like to know but I've not found one myself And I do wonder what the quality of it was Then we have a comment from Gino Who writes the description area is a good place to put all of the show deals I'll listen to a lot of old-time radio and most of the good channels take the time to edit out All of the outdated commercials Especially the Rexall and cigarette commercials that we have heard a thousand times before I will admit I've never heard the huge animals commercial and found it funny

36:49But you get the idea I like to like, share and subscribe to channels that take the time to make the experience better Also you will admit that some of the Johnny Dollar outros are really long They run out of material and you get two or three minutes of theme songs Just suggestions respectfully jam Well thank you so much appreciate the suggestion Now I have looked at some old-time radio programs on YouTube And to be honest I've not heard many that actually go ahead And edit out commercials Maybe I don't get to the best YouTube channels But most seem to just kind of post them verbatim And I mostly do live in commercials There are some that I cut But most I end up leaving in because I find them interesting

37:49And a lot of listeners say they do a good job of capturing the era And the feeling of what that was like Now with these multi-part Johnny Dollar episodes There are some choices if you're going to do more than run a single part at a time And we do cut some parts of the program file Mostly it comes down to music It's involves cutting the opening scene from middle episodes And cutting from the closing music Or episodes that are a final episode in a podcast So we only hear the closing music on episodes two and five Now I have heard other websites I don't know of podcasts but other people who have Combined episodes have cut even more

38:51And my personal opinion, personal feeling, no judgment on them Certainly I can understand the philosophy of the approach But to me it kind of seems choppy And again it's a decision And some might prefer that because it's a bit quicker When it comes to the closing theme While it can go on for a while I'm not inclined to cut it Because that was part of the original listening experience And I'm fine with cutting from the middle episode So we can get into next episode I mean there's no reason to listen to two minutes of theme music Between episodes one and two But when you get to the end I don't see a reason for rush I think certainly with modern day programming The amount of time for credits has been shortened

39:52And I think that on network television it was to add more ad space They didn't do it so they could add plot They did it so they could keep kind of approximately the same amount of plot But sell more advertising And then it kind of got into a bunch of the streaming services As like hey hey come on let's go ahead Bench the next episode Bench Bench Bench But to me with older programs it's just not something I go for In fact I get a little annoyed I know it's probably not rationally annoyed When I'm watching the Rockford files And I get an offer from the streaming service To end the credits and skip to the next episode of the Rockford files And skip the opening credits You do not skip the opening credits of the Rockford files as far as I'm concerned And that'd be like skipping the opening of the A-teams So that's kind of my feeling on that I do care about listener experience

40:55But if listeners would rather not listen to so much music at the end They can do several things They can stop if they don't want to hear the commentary Or they can hit the skip 15 button on their player To go ahead to the point where I get into the commentary Or they can speed it up and have the music go by quickly As well as getting a few seconds of me talking like Alvin from Alvin and the Chipmunks But if I were to cut the theme music short It would kind of leave people with no choice But to be rushed through the theme music I don't find that enjoyable as a listener And I wouldn't go with that option But you raise some interesting points And kind of glad to explain why we edit things the way we do here And then we have a comment from Eric over on Facebook And Eric writes regarding the Broderick matter I think hands down the best Jonny dollar story

41:57Maybe it was based on two other episodes But the way the writer slash adapter combined them with magic Broderick's fear of being left is what caused her to leave everyone The check-riding was part of her just giving up and deciding She must be a bad person because she did such bad things So she was going to do that However, she's generally a good person and she didn't have it in her Her inability to live with herself is what drove her over the edge It was very well done I think that's kind of a muddled explanation But I think I got my point across, I would agree This serial oddly is the one where I decided to drop out of Jonny dollar on the last run In hindsight, it's all that I chose such a great episode to do so on Looking forward to what comes next Thanks so much Eric and I'm glad you're going on And I relate because I have had times in my life Where I've done things and I've come back, you know, months or years later And it's not that I don't think I did what I did

43:01And I remember doing it but I'm like, okay, why? This doesn't make any sense to me at the present And I've talked about how we change over time And I guess that's part of it Finally, we have a voicemail Let's go ahead and take a listen to this from Jonathan Hi, Adam, just found this phone number on the 2014 episode of Jonny dollar Just wanted to tell you doing a great job of everything This is Jonathan from Las Vegas and keep up the good work Thanks so much, Jonathan And I believe that I've received a few really interesting emails for Jonathan in Las Vegas Not 100% certain it's the same Jonathan because they're probably more than one But if so, great to put a voice to the emails And I don't mention that as much

44:02But yeah, you can call leave a voicemail 208-991-478-3 That's 208-991-Great-D-GR8-D Now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day And I want to go ahead and thank Mr. Achilles Patreon supporter since July of 2020 Currently supporting the program at the Shamest level of $4 or more per month And that will actually do it for today If you are enjoying this podcast, please follow us with your favorite podcast software And be sure to write and review the podcast Wherever you download it from We'll be back on Friday with the conclusion of the Kaelin matter But join us back here tomorrow for dangerous assignment wear The works I nose around and inquiring about Alice Chambers Finally, I learned that her rooming house is just around the corner I turn the corner

45:02Then I spot a crowd in front of the doorway with a couple of cops pushing them back On the edge of the crowd stands a tall, skinny gent Waring a long black beard and a long white touga Excuse me, I'd like to get by Oh my friend, you disappoint me, huh? As I watched you approach, I thought here is a man of character Surely he will not stoop to this Yep, here you are yielding to the same more peculiarity Which is the common denominator of the ignoramuses Which our class and materialistic culture Spuse forth upon our sidewalks in ever-increasing multitudes Look, save the lecture professor I do not remember making your acquaintance yet You seem familiar with the title which my earnest but unfortunately to few students Have bestowed upon me Just psychic, I guess What's going on anyway A merely another unfortunate instance of man's inhumanity to man Where do you skip the double talk? Hey, does Alice Chambers live in this rooming house? A very profound question, my friend What's so profound about it?

46:03A question which has occupied the minds of philosophers and theologians for centuries With her, doth the soul take flight from the body Soul, body? Hey wait a minute, what are you talking about? This Alice Chambers, what about her? It would appear that at some time during the course of the night she was murdered I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime And do send your comments to box13 at greatdetectives.net Follow us on Twitter at radiodetectives And check us out on Instagram Instagram.com slash greatdetectives From Boise, Idaho, this is your host, Adam Graham, signing off It's tax season and by now we're all a bit tired of numbers But here's an important one you need to hear $16 billion dollars That's how much money and refunds the IRS flanked for possible identity fraud But it's not all grim news Lifelock monitors millions of data points per second And alerts you to threats you could easily miss on your own If your identity is stolen, they'll fix it, guaranteed

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