Why Starting From Scratch Might Be the Best Thing That Ever Happens to You, with Rob Draper

Lettering artist, designer and University of Worcester fellow Rob Draper joins Katy Cowan to close out the season with a warm, philosophical conversation about starting over and the art of creating something from nothing.

Rob opens up about the redundancy that upended his life at 40, the period when he cleared out a warehouse waiting for work that never came, and the decision that changed everything: to try anything, turn down nothing, and trust that action creates action. From teaching art in a men's prison to drawing on Starbucks cups and learning sign writing from a canal-barge painter, he shares how saying yes to the unexpected slowly built a career – and how COVID later pushed him back towards being the artist he'd always wanted to be.

Together they get honest about the "messy middle" of a creative life: redundancy, divorce, losing the house and starting again on a camp bed at his sister's, and what happens when the trappings of success you can no longer afford force you to rethink what success even means. Rob makes the case for baby steps over big leaps, for keeping a creative "toolbox" of skills you might not need yet, and for kicking enough balls at goal that, eventually, one goes in.

With reflections on authenticity in the age of AI, why craft will always find an audience, and the quiet contentment of enjoying the path rather than chasing the destination, it's a generous, funny and reassuring listen for anyone facing uncertainty – and proof that going right back to square one might just be the best thing that ever happens to you.