Who’s At the Top? – Questions For Corbett

0:00Welcome back friends. Welcome back to another edition of the Corbett Report. I'm James Corbett of Corbettreports.com Coming to you in September of 2026 with another edition of Questions for Corbett. And this time, I would like to explore a question that may be the most common question that I have ever received or will ever receive in my time as a conspiracy researcher. You all know this question in one of its many, many variations and permutations, something along the lines of, but James, who's at the top? That is to say, once we look past the veil of illusion that has been pulled over our eyes about how power operates in society and we start to learn more about the manipulation and control of events the question logically presents itself, who is controlling? Who is manipulating? Who is at the top of this pyramid of power? Well, it's a very good question. It has as I'm sure you can understand, been asked of me many, many, many times. And of course anyone who has spent any time in the conspiracy research space has spent time pondering this question asking it themselves, providing answers, listening to answers, etc.

1:09So we are going to engage in that here today on the Corbett report. Now this is not the first time I have tackled this question. In fact, you could make the argument that all of my work in one way or another is answering some version or some permutation of this question at least tangentially, but I've addressed it quite specifically and on the nose a number of times too. Perhaps most notably in a conversation that I had on the Mind Renewed podcast with the host Julian Charles back over a decade now way back in 2013. It was posted up to my website as interview 600 under the title James Corbett on the Mind Renewed. I would direct people towards that conversation if they're interested in this question because quite specifically we do get into the depths of this question and start to answer it. And I provided an answer there there in 2013 that I think still very much corresponds with the answer that I would give today in 2026.

2:10But let's find out let's try to rearticulate this and put it in different words and as an added bonus this will not just to be an addition of questions for Corbett, but questions for Corbett and Robinson and bros. Yes, I'm going to bring on some colleagues in the independent media to help answer this question because of course put 10 conspiracy researchers together and you'll get a hundred different answers to this question. So let's start drawing on the wisdom of others and other researchers who have been talking about this and we're going to start by taking a look at the work of Charlie Robinson. I'm sure you're aware of Charlie Robinson, the host of macro aggressions podcast he runs activist post.com and he is the author of such books as the octopus of global control which came out in 2017. He is also the author of the brand brand new just recently published the octopus of population control which very much centers around this question of who who is the head of this octopus who is at the top.

3:12So it was in that context that I decided to get in touch with Charlie and and put the question to him who is at the top of this Charlie Robinson. I think the answer is if you know their name, it's not them right isn't that that should be the answer. I think we have we can speculate I mean I certainly have my thoughts on it. Of course we're we're also speculating that the person at the top of the pyramid is actually a person as well. Maybe not non human. I don't know I only speculate because I have heard other speculate about that as well. I tell you in in my research if we want to keep it human centric here my studies have taken me back and I and I don't go back thousands of years. It's it's a little too far back for me but in writing my newest book I really sort of focused on the British roundtable group moving forward right. So I would call this more modern history of who who rules the world and I think it might be the remnants of the board of directors of the British East India company better known as the committee of 300.

4:25Over the years this list has evolved over time they've they've it's been a blend of royal families and once they realize they couldn't do it on their own. Industrialists of their era mixing in with the royals and something I would call regism right the if we've got fascism is the blending of the state with big business for the benefit of the state then what is it when you blend royal families with the state. Because that's what has happened through the committee of 300 as they made that calculation that it wasn't going to really work with just the royal families taking them into the next centuries but they were going to have to work with the with the peons with the people. Though the most powerful people of their era so I think that this group which is evolved over time I write about it in my book I put it on page 111 a list of modern day members of the committee of 300 I suppose if we escape from the from the the law that if you know their names it's not them I mean these are people whose names we would recognize and written about in our newspapers so.

5:46That's going to be my guess as to whose well maybe not at the very very top but. Upper management possibly I am certainly sympathetic to the idea that you've laid out here and some of the historical connection but I must admit I have my misgivings when it comes to the topic of the committee of 300 in particular because the only source that I have ever found for that information is John Coleman who I don't trust as far as I can throw in so. I do I in fact you're the list that you talk about there on page 111 or 12 did jump out to me precisely because I wonder where did you get this membership list for the committee of 300. Yeah but unfortunately John Coleman who you don't trust very very much what's your. It's talking about Bill Gates and Tony Blair and other people who are dead who were operative after John Coleman was dead so I'm assuming this list does not come from John Coleman. A list a list that has been added to I think over the years yeah exactly as they they're there according to their operating I mean you're on the list until you're in operable and then they throw you off and replace you with somebody a little bit more modern.

6:57This idea though that the British East India companies board of directors somehow existed and evolved over time is fascinating to me because this this idea of a company that's you know Amazon times a million plus lack water is is terrifying I think to people and that that group would view the world is not just a business project. But a colonization project as well and where did the British East India company and in the British Empire began and where it got very blurry and and who who really was in charge of the depopulation agenda because it looked like both of them were we're running it at some point so these these empires that have existed for several centuries are they at the top again it's hard it's it's really.

7:57It's really hard to know because if done correctly well never know you know if done if done properly the it becomes so murky that you. You're you're resigned to educated guesses and these are of course I think we're right we at some point you have to speculate unless you've got them by the unless you've got them opening the keys to the vault. But I think that based on our understanding of the way the world works and that a lot of the people whose names we recognize really are mental management in this whole endeavor it takes you into some areas where you you ask questions about bloodline families and I know for us in the in the modern west it's typical you know it's easy to be dismissive and say bloodlines with your with all of that but apparently it's it's of real importance to the royal families it means much to them so bloodline families ruling from the shadows has always been a thread that has been extremely interesting to people but

8:59but again how where do they delegate at what point do they step out of the shadows or do they. All very good questions and I don't think we do have definitive answers but as you say some speculation is necessary on on this topic but perhaps it's a question of the way that we frame the topic because I for example am framing this by asking who's at the top of the pyramid but that's one way of conceptualizing this issue that I know you do not use in your book your book is about the octopus of population control so why why frame it as an octopus what how does that help us to understand how this power structure operates. It's multifaceted of course and it allows you the opportunity to to understand it's not just about one thing you know if it were just about making money that would be the financial tentacle right but you understand that there's there's so much more to it there's there's ideological thought you know the reason that goes into this there's domestic there's the the idea that the state needs to manage the human population I tackle this in the book stating you know as I sought to find out who was behind of this that this depopulation eugenics agenda thinking that if I could only figure out who it was that maybe we could put a stop to it

10:23and what I was alarmed to discover is not just one group it's two and that's the the the part that the through me for a loop was that there's multiple factions that see eugenics and depopulation as a way to thin the herd and accomplish their own goals yet they have different goals and sometimes they work together and sometimes they don't so to try and put it together as a pyramid is in its sense. So I think that's also a bit of a misdirection because there's so many different angles that this can can go in fact in my in my books I talk about the wasp faction the white Anglo sex and Protestants and what that means that that group of of the who build society and they were the creators of of the systems the enforcers of the order in for them the population much differently they see it as we need to make sure that we take care of the structures that we built so that our multinational firms can flourish in these third world countries and we need to make sure that the populations don't get out of control because if they do we lose control of the situation here so it the in their line of thinking they see depopulation as an ends to a mean managing the animal farm for the purposes of the population

11:48and they're corporate clients whereas the second group the sabotein frankis they are guided by a much different voice they are the destroyers of culture who start wars and use debt slavery and actual slavery and they're guided by a much darker force a potentially non human force that encourages them to destroy cultures that have been built so they're both in it for the reasons of calling the population but there there reasons for doing that are vastly different and sometimes they work together and sometimes they don't that's what made it so confusing for me was because I believed at first that it was just one large group until I watched as they fought with each other over over the areas in which they don't agree but but regardless we can come to a consensus that the depopulation agenda is very real and unfortunately it might be twice as bad as we thought it was

12:56well it's a very important and interesting subject that you delve into in great detail in your book but you just threw out a term that maybe some of the audience and we'll be familiar with some people won't the sabotein frankisks who are they what are you referring to yeah this is a this is a lineage that goes back hundreds of years we would we would describe them if for those who were would it's not so simple as saying the Jews because in some cases these groups use Judaism as a shield to deflect criticism these are the satanic the Zionist the Habbad Lubavitch sect the Maxwell Wexner and the Maxwell Wexner Epstein group the black cult of black cube of Saturn child cult the Caesarian name Steelers the greater Israel projects the Roth Childs this is the group I put together in the sabotein frankis not all but but in that same lineage that is more ideologically driven and to understand their backgrounds is that there I think people probably would understand them close if they if they knew Satanism the inversion of everything right the taking of something good and making it back this was their driving force was that they were destroyers inverters and in back in old history name Steelers of very unusual tradition based on their geography

14:20were trade routs ran through their territories they would kidnap what they would invite people in show them hospitality get them to tell them their stories drug them murder them assume their identities follow you continue on to these trade routes in saying stories you would you read about these groups and the methods that they would go to the lengths they would go to and you come to understand that there's a there's an ideology driving them that is super natural in scope that they are are they are operating at the best of a non human entity that is directing their their behavior and their behavior has been reprehensible over the years and people are starting to make some connections about who this group is especially in modern times are starting to see destabilization happening in western Europe and in North America in terms of the migrant caravans and they're asking about

15:25what this has to do with anything and who's doing this and is this an accident or a coordination and through the research you find that there's a this group is behind it and the writings that they you know the the the the colorgy plan the Louis Nizere plan the theater Kaufman plan the Morgan Thal plan a little bit later clower and piv and these plans and you start to dig into the origins of the name you find a particular group is behind all of them this destabilization of the west so you start to ask why is this is this all about depopulation in some cases actually just about the the break up of homogenized cultures the intention to destabilize countries by inserting people into their culture that don't belong there that aren't from there and with the intention that these people will be put there to not integrate into society so that there will be a permanent fracture in that culture that can later be exploited and the first time you hear this you roll your eyes and say I may be you know it sounds like plausible but I don't know

16:37but plan after plan after plan you start to notice that there's a theme running and that the people behind it are all from the same group and that this is being made to happen and I think it's theoretical if you were to read about this in like the 1980s but now after several years of watching migrant caravans people understand that this is a real thing they're just trying to get their hands on who's behind it and why they're doing this and once you once you can put some names to the to the actions that you're doing is a real thing. So I think it's just starts to make a little bit more sense. Once again that is Charlie Robinson and his book is the octopus of population control it is available in print physical as well as audio and ebook forms wherever books are sold so I hope people will check that out if they're interested but even from that very overview over arching conversation I think you can tell that this is a subject that permits of a great great degree of detail and so we glossed over entire fields of study that people could spend years of their lives if not decades researching talking about such groups as the Saboteon Frankus and the

17:47Hoba Abad Luevich and the Maxwell slash Epstein group and the black Saturn cube people and and everything else that you can think of the British East India company yes certainly even the committee of 300 who as I interject there to say I don't really believe John Coleman but don't take my word for it look into John Coleman's work for yourself and decide whether or not you take his work at face value and you can as I say you could spend years of your life. Investigating each one of these rabbit holes and I'm sure each one of those explorations would be fruitful because they certainly do talk about at least some element of the way the power is being wielded over the vast swath of humanity even today so again as an interesting question because it certainly does open the door to many different fields of research that may or may not prove to be very fruitful for you in your own endeavors but let's keep the train of moving let's go on with the question of who is at the top of the pyramid of power is Derek Bros of course the host of the conscious resistance and I'm sure people know of his work by now but if not you'll want to check that out in general but specifically with regards to this question you'll want to check out the pyramid of powered dot net that is the home page for the

18:53docu series slash book that Derek Bros has spent the last half a decade or so producing on this very subject of the pyramid of power and I'm sure you're going to be able to to do that in general but specifically with regards to this question you'll want to check out the pyramid of powered dot net that is the home page for a docu series slash book that Derek Bros has spent the last half a decade or so producing on this very subject of the pyramid of power and who or what is at the top of that pyramid of power for people who haven't looked at this at all yet I would highly suggest that at the very least go to the the website and take a look and you can move through the various levels of the pyramid and click on one of them and watch that that attendant chapter or you can order the book and read through it and I guarantee you will find something of interest somewhere in this voluminous project Derek talks about many many of the different levels of power and how they are wielded over humanity by the manipulators and controllers he talks about the education system he talks about media he talks about the environment he talks about corporations and finance he talks about the false flag events and everything

20:08in between all of this sort of bread and butter conspiracy research material which then coalesces over the course of 16 chapters into the 17th and final chapter that reports to examine that question of who is at the top of this pyramid of power and that itself is divided into two parts in the docu series because it is a lengthy and very interesting exploration of the subject. So I suppose if you are only interested in the question of who's at the top I guess you can just watch chapter 17 of the docu series or just read the end of the book but I would not suggest that I think that this is a project that deserves your time and attention because a lot of research has gone into it but it's on that on that note and for that reason that I asked Derek okay you've done all this research Derek bros who is at the top of the pyramid of power. So this is a fun one to try to answer and I will say you know because I'm I'm hesitant to even answer because I don't want to spoil my own book slash series here but obviously that was the goal it was all working towards building towards trying to answer okay now we've understood that you know how big wire this works or how the media works and all these institutions in our interlace and interlock together who are what sits at the top and so to try to answer that question I interviewed you I interviewed Richard Grove David I could catheter

21:30Austin Fitz Adam Green so many others that I'm forgetting right now and many of these people have their specific pet theory I look at what I would consider to be the top three you know big dogs that typically get named and that is the Freemasons the Jesuits and of course the Jews or Zionists kind of lobby and I interviewed individuals who who hold those beliefs and sort of let them make their case and then as I said try to debunk well you know we can't really prove this document is exactly what a lot of people believe and I will say in terms of those specific groups it is interesting to me that each of those Jewish power Freemasons and Jesuits all three of those groups have been kicked out of many countries over the last couple hundred years because of the fears that they were going to take over governments and influence politics all three have secret documents that you know are alleged secret documents that people say look this is the secret plan you know whether you have the protocols of the others of Zion which I look at the series there's something called the monetis acretta of the Jesuits that you know it's like this is the Jesuit secret plan was discovered by this guy and there's a whole tale with that and then of course many stories about Freemasons secret rituals and documents and so it's interesting just sort of those parallels between those groups and then yeah and then I interviewed people like Gea Vergriffin who said that it is not an individual or one institution it is the ideology of collectivism

22:54Richard Grove he said that it is a round table round tables of course we talk about Carol Quigley and the whole round table structure he says you know he thinks it's probably all these groups that we're talking about here and in that final round table they probably all have a seat where they're sort of begrudgingly sharing power you know they might have their own conflicting interest but 99 times out of 100 they're going to agree with each other and work together in order to you know achieve their goals and and sort of strip away the freedom of the rest of the masses that they don't want to do that. I don't want to ever wake up in question and power and then of course David Ike has his theories on I did ask him about the reptilian thing and he he described it more as like a consciousness that he says can sort of occupy any and all people including he you know he does believe that there is a physical reptilian race out there but he said even them if they exist that they are possessed by this consciousness you know that he says it's this consciousness that can you know possess human beings it can possess any

23:54entity and that is really in his eyes the sort of top the pyramid and then we had other people who were kind of maybe pointing different directions but ultimately I looked at all those different groups and and of course yourself and Larkin Rose and Kerry Wedler Etienne de Boetti squared who's been on your show the four of you guys all point to the belief in authority and that's ultimately really where my my kind of conclusions lie I don't think that you know I do think that the groups I look at they all do clearly have power I got everybody can see the influence of the Zionist lobby you can look at the influence of the free mason's in the French Revolution and the American Revolution and the Mexican Revolution even and and many other countries you can see the power of the Jesuits in the Vatican and so these there there's real there's there there you know there's real power there. And I think it's important to understand that but I do think it ultimately comes down to that belief in authority and how many people sort of acquiesce and just give away their own power and so to many degrees I think all of the people I interviewed even with their conflicting answers like Catherine Austin fits she believes you know there's a breakaway civilization that may involve some sort of extraterrestrial life or extraterrestrial technology you know I went to look at all the different theories and claims I wanted to give them each their day and court and sort of dissect them.

25:14So I think there's probably truth in all of them but I do think it ultimately comes down to belief in authority and it the funny thing is I went into this fully aware that it was going to be dissatisfactory to a lot of people especially those who feel very strongly like no this one group is the one group and anybody who says anything different obviously as a shill obviously as controlled opposition etc and I've gotten plenty of that but for those who want to actually stick to what we can prove I think you will find a lot to digest and reflect on in the final conclusion. Which I actually did end up chapter 17 is split into two volumes because it was it was a bit extensive so the first volume is about 45 minutes and the final chapter is about hour and a half and I will say that the book version it is it actually is longer than the documentary series because when I was writing the final chapter dissecting all those different groups my original script turned out to be four hours long and so I was like I can't make a four hour conclusion so me and my editor trimmed it down and we were able to get it down to two and a half hours and split it up in the two volumes as I said but the book I kept the original script and so this has all of my like if you're extra nerdy and one of the you know details you didn't you're not missing anything by watching the series but if you want the extra you know nuts and bolts and everything the final conclusion of the book has all of that extra detail.

26:33Did somebody say extra nerdy sign me up yeah no excellent and as as people who do watch the docu series or read the book will know as you say you do give an airing to all of these various different theories and I think that that's an admirable job and an admirable task that you did with that obviously all of these are touch button hot issues that people get very worked up about so it is good to just look at them in a cold rational way and see what adds up and what doesn't et cetera and let me to do it but let people decide for themselves what they choose to believe but I think there is a question that underlies this question because of course the who's at the top is the most obvious question for budding young conspiracy researchers and old grisen grisled veterans alike and it's one that we've all heard millions of times and people naturally ask it of course they want to know who is at the top but let's let's say if there was a particular name a particular answer that we can give to this it's John Baldard ash and he lives at one two three anywhere street what what do you think people believe will happen as a result of answering this question correctly what what do you think is the impetus for why people are asking this question.

27:48yeah that's a that's a great you know great question asked there you know I think that so for example we just passed the 25th anniversary of 9.11 anytime you go down one of these rabbit holes you start dissecting one of these deep events eventually you're like okay well obviously we're lied to but well who was behind it right it's not just Larry Silverstein it's not just this one person maybe they benefit financially but who is the the group driving these these false flags and these type of events and I do think that there's names we can assume that we can describe to this I didn't mention one of the groups I also looked into that is often thrown out there the Venetian Black Nobility which is sort of another area that I see lots of claims made about and not a lot of evidence you know for example just it's fresh on my mind because I just saw it on social media the other day somebody post in a video guys you got it all wrong the top of the pyramid is the Venetian Black Nobility and it's not Jewish power because the Rothschilds they're actually not Jewish they're part of the orcini family and you know that's an old your European wealth family and I reached out to the person I said can you share me you know what's what your your evidence is for that and I wasn't

28:54sort of attack you know just like because I'd like to look into that because maybe I missed this when I was making the pyramid of power because I didn't see anything that actually prove that I see a lot of conspiracy message boards and other places that make claims like that but I don't see any any any deep evidence of that but I do think that there are names you can put obviously Rothschild obviously Rockefeller and I do think the European wealth families from from the past especially the houses of Venice and Rome they they still own a lot of the land in Europe and the royalty I think they do have some power still so there's people in places we can point to but I think ultimately the trap that people fall in is if we can just pinpoint that one family that one name that one group then obviously all we need to do is hang them from the highest tree and then everything will be better and unfortunately I think that's as has more and more people get frustrated I see out in the wilds of the internet more people saying that like these people you know they they're kind of calling for violent revolution which I don't personally think is the answer because as you actually say in the documentary not to spoil it for those who haven't seen it but that we can identify those people if we want and then get rid of them and then what's going to happen as we all know somebody else is going to step up to claim that seat of power to take the ring of power and so I think that that's that's one of the faults faulty ways of thinking about this as well same thing even with like so many people are starting to question the role of Zionism in question Israel and I've seen this sort of narrative that if we

30:17can just get rid of the Israeli influence over the United States for example then the you know everything will be great and we'll just go back to the good old constitution and everything will be fixed as if Israel and Zionism is the only part of the problem right if we just could remove that cut off that head of that snake then everything else will be fine and I think we both know and people who followed your work or mind for a long time know that that's not the root of our problem sure that is a big problem but it's not the root of it so I think that's what is sort of problematic about it about asking this question obviously that was my whole goal of this series and I do want to mention as well one of the reasons I was motivated to do this is because when I first started to wake up back in 2009 2010 like many of us I you know I found your work I found in full words I found a lot of different sources many of whom who I don't trust anymore and who you know I kind of matured in my thinking and found more credible sources and decided okay let me go to the primary sources of the people making these claims and you know I wanted to interrogate my own beliefs which I think is important to do and I started to find like okay a lot of the things that maybe I believed when I was first waking up there's some general truth there but the details weren't wrong and you've done a great job of debunking some of these things over the years

31:27and so part of this was just for my own sake I want to go back and rethink some of those things that I believe when I was first waking up and actually find what is the truth there what is the you know the actual things that I can rest my hands on that I can say this is what I can prove and when I want to communicate this to people I feel confident because I've went and done I went and did the research myself not just relying on some second or third hand source or whatever that nobody ever traces back to the beginning and they say well used to small and wrote this back in 1970 or whatever like I wanted to be able to prove what I can actually prove so I think I've done that and I think ultimately it does come back to that is it is important in my belief to understand these institutions these people these families but removing one family removing one nation one ideology isn't going to solve all of our problems. Exactly right so the question is what will and as you know your work always always comes back to that question of solutions and how to move forward which is one of the reasons I think people appreciate your work and of course this document this book is no exception you do end up by talking about things that people can do

32:33about the pyramid of power rather than endlessly speculating about that top level so share some of those ideas with us. Yeah you know the last I would I think it's probably five to ten minutes of the final episode I thought you know after we go we sludge through the deep research and I want to give a shout out to my editor who did an amazing job he goes by the name Cicifist Jones anybody who's watched the visuals you know of course we're both inspired by you and by Brock's work but he did some amazing job creating these 3D scenes that sort of walk you through all the dense information we're going through to make it really watchable and the last five to ten minutes after we've done that I tried to in take a moment to reflect in one of the things I say which I think is really important remember is if going down these rabbit holes and trying to understand this information makes you miserable they've already won you know if you're just miserable when your daily life and you're you just your blackpilled and everything's hopeless like well you're just going to be a little bit more than you're going to be able to do that. Well then they don't even have to do anything because they've already kind of just by existing they've already pushed you to the point of well why should I bother and that is not the point of my series or my research at all to you know get people to like hey everything is so scary and it's you know it's not trying to come like from this from a doom porn.

33:50Angle in fact that's one of the reasons I made this as well because again a lot of the documentaries I was finding particularly in game blueprint for global enslavement help wake me up but looking back like well that's pretty intense like it's a it's not making me feel very optimistic about the future and not to say we need to you know blow smoke up people if it if the truth is the truth but I do think there are things we can actually do and so yeah one of the points I make is. If you're going down these rabbit holes and you're just miserable if you're blackpilled then maybe this isn't the healthiest thing to do anyways if you already know enough like I think many people who watch your show or mine or others they come to a point where they sort of get the general picture yes there's these different forces working to enslave humanity and strip us of our liberties great but if you're just consuming the conspiratainment the infotainment and you're not actually taking care of your own self your family you know your mental health spiritual health etc. Then I know I say you're probably doing it wrong right so I mean a lot of the solutions in every episode whether it's talking about the education system establishment media all the different pieces we touch on it pretty much all comes back to the same solutions that I've been promoting and living now for the last 16 years which is what I now have recently called exit build and ultimately is inspired by aggers and you know counter economics building parallel systems which I am happy to say and James maybe you've noticed as well that there's a lot more people to

35:11talk about parallel systems these days and there used to be it seems like the concept is kind of caught on whether anybody's ever heard of Samuel Conkin or you know red new libertarian manifesto or anything like that they understand okay we're not going to get through that we're not going to fix this by voting you know voting for Tucker Carlson in 2028 isn't going to solve my problems or Thomas massier whoever else and you know storming the Capitol isn't going to get us whatever we think we might want and being blackpilled apathetic throwing your hands up and saying well it's hopeless we're screwed that's certainly doesn't feel satisfactory to me I know you've got children I'm probably going to have children soon I've got six nieces and nephews and I want them to have a better world and at least the same amount of liberty that we've had and not let let it die right you know right in front of them and to do that that means there's some difficult work in front of us and so all the solutions that I promote throughout the series again whether it's about education system hey well if you can homeschool your kids or you know collaborate with other parents and form pods and and if you can't homeschool be more involved in their lives and learn what sort of propaganda the states trying to put in their minds and things like that

36:15get out of the the big box food system if you can get out of the big bank system if you can't it all kind of comes back to that every essentially like this series is another way for me to promote freedom cells exit and build parallel systems that's ultimately the message that I'm really sending and you know throughout it and the conclusion really tries to just hammer that point home once again that's Derek bros of the conscious resistance network and if you haven't seen and or read the pyramid of power yet what are you doing I think it would be worth your time and attention it's at the pyramid of power dot net the link will be in the show notes as always of course and I hope people will take a look at it because there is a lot of very very good research in that entire series there are receipts to back up what Derek is talking about with quotes and specific references to very specific information there's a lot of good hard documented real researched evidence in there on many many of the important subjects that the corporate report talks about and that I presume people in the corporate

37:18report audience would be interested in as well of course as the fundamental overriding overarching question who is at the top but well we've heard Charlie Robinson expounding on this question we've heard Derek bros expounding on this question and their research and their answers into this but what about James Corbett this is questions for Corbett after all as I say I have addressed this con this question both directly and tangentially many many times throughout the work that I've done over the years but let's take a look at a different articulation of that that may be one of the most succinct and most powerful articulations of it that I think I have done yet and that is in fact part of the interview clip that Derek bros plays in chapter 17 of the pyramid of power and in that I articulate my answer to this question of who is at the top of the pyramid. The question who is at the top of the pyramid is the wrong question because I don't think that this is about individuals so of course there are individuals in positions of power and we could look at many ways of identifying them David Rothkoff who was the head of Kissinger and associates for many years and a very important member of the global kebal wrote back in 2007 about the super class which he identified as 6000 people who were able to enter into act transnationality.

38:42He was a nationality and be able to basically enact any agenda across national boundaries they weren't necessarily people in government they were people in corporations or finance or international positions and he thought this was a great thing. Yes there is a super class that exists that does have that kind of power but it is not the people that are really the top of the pyramid. What is at the top of the pyramid fundamentally is an ideology it is the ideology of centralization of control in the hands of a few powerful people and once we frame the question in the proper way rather than who is at the top of the pyramid what is at the top of the pyramid I think we can arrive at a better answer for how to solve this problem because if the question is who is at the top of the pyramid and we identify the individual names of the individual people who are in certain positions of power then the obvious logic of the world. The situation is well we get rid of those people so we get rid of those people and everything will be better because the top of the pyramid has been removed but in reality as I think everyone understands if you removed those particular individuals from their particular positions of power there would be a million people trying to jump into those positions as quickly as possible to take that power for themselves because they believe in centralized authority they believe in the idea that a few people should be

40:04ruling over managing stewarding over the masses so fundamentally what we're against is that idea and if we can delegitimize that idea in the minds of the people then it does not matter who is sitting in those positions of power because power will not exist will not function in a society where people do not recognize the legitimacy of that power. Once again that is a clip from the pyramid of power documentary featuring yours truly answering the question of who is at the top or perhaps more to the point what is at the top of the pyramid and I grant that what is at the top of the pyramid is a slightly less intuitive and less sexy conspiracy conspiracy attainment sort of question to be asking everyone wants to know who's at the top I think fewer are interested in the question of what is at the top of the pyramid but that is nonetheless. I think that's my articulation of it I think we are not waging wars and fighting fights and being preyed upon by individuals so much as we are ideologies and that that is an important part of what we are facing and that yes individuals need to be held accountable for their crimes absolutely but that does not address the root of the problem now perhaps you disagree without me and I'm sure there are many people out there who know James you're you're covering it up.

41:27You don't know why don't you talk about and then name your conspirator of choice you're a shell and you're a gatekeeping the fact that it's actually Joseph Q pickle wiggle and I'm going to I know expose the truth about him great awesome well first of all there is no gate and I'm not keeping it you can research absolutely anything you want and share the results of that research with anyone you want at any time and you you never need my permission to do so but you have it even if you even if you don't eat it. But having said that yes please do leave your impassioned diadribes in the comments section at corporate report dot com the only comment comment section that I read and I would be happy to take a look at it but I ask one thing of you once you leave your impassioned speech for why this particular conspirator is clearly the one at the top and. This group or this person or this this family bloodline is clearly the one controlling everything and everyone should wake up to this truth all I ask is that at the end of that diadribe you then say very specifically what people should do with that information and how that action that people should do will solve the problem if you can articulate that I would be very interested to hear it and who knows if somebody comes up with a very good articulation for here's who's actually.

42:47Control here's what you do about it and here's how it will solve the problem if there is such a formulation that makes sense and seems like it'll work I would be happy to pick that up for future solutions watch exploration but I will see we'll see what type of fruit that that exploration bears. But having said that once again I think absolutely there are individuals nameable individuals and groups that can be identified and should be identified absolutely people should be exploring and researching who is connected to who and who's doing what to whom those are valuable things to know that is in some sense one of the core parts of the reason that of the corporate report is to name names to find out what's going on to to get to the bottom of things and to understand. What is happening and who is doing what so absolutely I think that's important and yes we should be pursuing accountability and justice for evil doers and the crimes that they commit absolutely 100% I just think that we're not going to fundamentally address the core root of the problem of the pyramid of power if all we are concerned about is who or what is the top of the pyramid I think the question of the pyramid itself the hierarchy that exists in our own minds.

44:05As much as it does in the real world is something that needs to be addressed at any rate that's my articulation and I'm sticking to it so in the interest of today's exploration and the fact that I think that ultimately although this is an endlessly fascinating question the much more fascinating question is what do we do with this information I will leave you today with a short passage from near the very very end of the pyramid of power document documentary series once again featuring some words from myself. James Corbett of corporate report calm thank you for investing your time in today's exploration I'm looking forward to talking to you again in the near future. Finally I want to take a moment to acknowledge the heaviness of the topics that we've covered we've talked about false flags overthrowing of governments murder child abuse and psychological manipulation while I believe it's important that we take time to understand the true nature of our world if conducting this research makes you miserable or you feel hopeless after watching this series. Then they've already won do not allow yourself to be sucked into a pit of nihilism and believing that all hope is lost as long as we are alive as long as we are breathing there is still hope not hope in false political heroes and reformism but a true hope in the potential for an awakening humanity to shift into action awareness alone isn't enough being informed means little if it only leads to inaction and despair.

45:29And I think people are starting to recognize that there is an agenda towards centralization of power and centralization of control and that is key because once people start to at least be able to identify what is happening then it's I think quite obvious well if we want to go in the opposite direction of the way they them those are trying to take us well then we have to do the opposite of what they're doing rather than putting more and more power in fewer and fewer hands and centralized positions of control we have to move towards decentralized systems we have to bring things down. And if we're more local we have to create communities of support for ourselves so that we will be able to not just not just survive but actually really thrive whatever these people in presumed positions of power are doing I think once it is framed in that those terms for people who are starting to at least be able to identify this agenda I think the logic speaks for itself. We need to continue to educate and empower our brothers and sisters and exit from these slavery systems and expose the power where necessary we need to move beyond simply being awake and towards being activated towards actively working on the liberation of humanity whatever you do don't give up remember you are not alone the seven generations are counting on us and our ancestors are walking with us we can overcome and thrive in the face of this generational evil which is attempting to subvert the beauty and the potential of the world.

46:55Thank you for watching.