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3:04In Cleveland with the Browns with a 27-24 win over the Steelers, that's their eighth straight win on Thursday night, including four over the Steelers in that stretch. Today we've got seven NFC home games for you. Rams it eagles with looking like no Devante Smith, Denver at San Francisco, Green Bay at Tampa Bay, Detroit at Carolina, Arizona at the Giants, Atlanta at New Orleans Monday night, and Miami, Minnesota, the one they've all been waiting for. Jamie, good morning. Happy St. Patrick's Day. Good morning. Yes, we are all wearing green today for whatever reason. Can I am easy being green? Yeah, I think it's just to bring out the color of my eyes. Thank you to you guys for helping me with that. Dave, what's that? What's that? Your eyes are green. I thought they were brown from all the crap you're talking. Or from the Cleveland Browds. Okay, here's what we're going to do. The Cleveland Browds, the Cleveland Browds are fun, Adam. They are. They are fun. They are mongkin it up. And we're let's rank all of the running backs and receivers from last night's game.

4:10Rest of season. Go. Jalen Warren one over Judkins. Yeah, over Judkins. Judkins is two. Boston three, Mecca four, in Sepp's, the only five. We are hesitant on Mecca. I think there's a gap between Warren and Judkins. And then there's another gap between all the receivers. And I think it makes sense to put Boston ahead of Metcalf because of just the expectation that Cleveland's going to be in a bunch of games where they're throwing. And I don't know if Pittsburgh A will be in that exact same ship or B that Meccaf will be as good. This felt like the best game we're going to get from DK Meccaf all year. Oh boy, interesting. Okay, so first of all, why would we go Warren over Judkins when Rico Doudel should be back next week? Let's start with that. We're going to have the same answer here. Go ahead, Jalen. I think Warren's the better running back. So hopefully he continues to get the work that he deserves and he's going to share.

5:13Maybe he shares more than Judkins does, but which Judkins do we see? The one that showed up last night or the one that showed up the first three games of the season, which was tough to watch. You know, so I thought he looked much better. I thought that's the guy that we were drafting and hopefully that's a sign of things to come. But you know, Jalen Warren is two game sample size now of what he's been able to accomplish. If the Steelers want to go away from that, they're pretty stupid. Agreed. And also, Judkins continues to rush and efficiently. Last night was 3.1 yards per carry. It was awesome to see him get as many targets as he got. Seven targets, six catches. Turned that into 43 yards. That obviously supplements his numbers. Can we count on that every week at him? I don't know if we can. And that's why Warren, who clearly is the better running back than Doudal at this point? It's so easy to say now. Wasn't as easy to say in August. That's one that I missed on. I feel like Judkins is going to be more reliable for touches, but still be inefficient with them. And you've got to hope that he scores. Yeah, look, I think that Warren is the better running back than Doudal.

6:16They've just never shown new coaching staff I know. Never shown any willingness to really make him a workhorse. And I feel maybe it's going to be just a few weeks in a playout, the way we're hoping. But I fear that they're going to kind of go back to having a split next week when Doudal's healthy. Even though Warren deserves to be the feature back, I don't think they're just going to go away from Doudal. Also, this could change, but I talked about the profile change for Aaron Rodgers. He's not throwing those running backs like he used to. I mean, Jaylen Warren had three catches last night. Jaylen Warren had three catches last game. Both of them without Rico Doudal, I think that could change. No, it could swing back the other way, but they're trying to throw the ball more downfield, and they're doing it somewhat successfully. But okay, yeah, Judkins, I think it's worth noting that Dan and I mentioned a couple of weeks, I think, last maybe a week ago, that we didn't really think Quinch on Judkins looked like himself. Looks like the same guy from last year. And I thought he showed some signs last week, and then Herb Street last night said it like three times.

7:17This is the best I've seen Rico Doudal look. He basically agreed. He didn't, what's that? Quinch on Judkins. He said, Quinch on Judkins. This is the best I've seen Judkins look this year. He basically agreed. He hadn't looked like the same guy, and it was nice to see some explosion, even though the rush average wasn't great. Roman Wilson has six targets in every game. Yes, and it's going to go up, or at least stay stable. We saw Pitman only get targets in the first half. Wasn't a big factor in the second half. I think Rodgers is settled on Roman Wilson as a second favorite target. So probably a name we'll talk about picking up as a bi-week replacement at Wide Receiver, probably not somebody that we're looking at as a number three receiver. Maybe in the deepest of leagues. I can fridge my looking up at the sky when we hear the flush noise. But I'm excited about Roman, because I really like this talent coming out of Michigan. I just don't want to buy in too much. Okay, and for Wilson, he doesn't play that much when Michael Pitman is healthy.

8:17He played a lot in weeks two and three. He doesn't play that much when... I guess Pitman played in week three. He played a lot in weeks one and two. Pitman left in week one. Pitman played week one, left week one, didn't play week two. He doesn't play that much, but maybe that changes. He's just basically just a slok. They are not very fond of Michael Pitman right now. No. All right, so just overall, these are not too often, that people were really buying into. They look better than we thought. Do you buy it? To what degree do you buy the Steelers and Brown's Offences, Dave? I buy the Steelers run game. I sort of buy Aaron Rogers, but it's contingent on whether or not DK Meccaff can come through. And I'm just not super excited about that. And so it's going to come down to whether Meccaff has a big game or Rogers throws 35 plus times a game and gets a lot out of those other extra receivers. It's Wilson, it's Firemuth, it's Darnow, Washington.

9:17So I don't really buy it. I'm not that excited about it. With the Browns, I think this is the best of Sean Watson's looks since he's been a Cleveland Brown. He looked confident yesterday, looked comfortable. His guys were getting open. That obviously helps. And that speaks to the Steelers defense. And they took on some injuries yesterday. Both teams did defensively. I buy into it a little bit more with Cleveland. I don't think that we're going to see, if we see regression from Deshaun Watson, I don't think he's going to river back to the dude we saw in the first three quarters of week one and the first half of week two. I think he's kind of got his sea legs back. And I think he's got his swagger back a little bit. And maybe we'll see Deshaun Watson actually evolve into a bi-week fantasy quarterback. Boston's going to be a bi-week wide receiver if not a low end number three receiver. By the way, this was the game that I was expecting Casey Konsepcion to look like every week where he would get a lot of targets. And a bunch of them were short area targets. And he was skimmed up to have space to run after the catch. And then he also had a big catch on top of it a little bit further down field.

10:19This is the Konsepcion that I was drafting. And I'm kind of excited about him. But I look at him almost the same way that I look at Roman Wilson that he's at best a bi-week replacement. And probably a PPR only wide receiver. But now we're seeing it from this offense. And so I buy into what the Browns are doing a little bit more than what the Steelers are doing. Jamie and same question you. And by the way, full on youth movement for the Browns. It used to be Jerry Judy was the main guy in Konsepcion will come in and three receiver sets now. Konsepcion, Boston, Fanon, they ran almost every route. If you look at Judkinson, Konsepcion, Fanon, Boston, these are the four guys playing the most all first or second year players. But Jamie, how much are you buying into these two offenses? And what's the most moving? I'd be selling DK Meckhaff now if anybody wants to trade for him because this was his best game. And he looked good. So you can hopefully see somebody that still wants to get the name and see the targets. And I don't think it's going to be consistent, which has been the problem for the first four games of the season.

11:22I buy Jalen Warren. I think Dave nailed the Steelers. The Browns, I think Denzel Boston's already established himself as the starter in three or three really. It's been three or four games now where he's been good. We've talked about him as a waiver ad three weeks ago. And so the fantasy managers who have been shuffling him in and out of that lineup, I think it's just going to be not a set and forget it, but almost to that point, especially once we get to buy weeks. So he's established himself as the guy. You heard the broadcast saying that with the pre-show meetings, obviously Denzel, DeShawn Watson saying that Denzel Boston's guy, I think, was Herbstreet. Somebody said, that's the guy he looks for when he's got to make a big throw. So it's playing itself out. I thought Fannon had a chance for a bigger game. He's proving to be better than I expected with Watson, because I thought that would be an issue Watson missed him on an easy play that would have been probably another 20 or 30 yards. But at least you're getting the touchdowns. So we're getting to a point where I think you could put him in the top 12 conversation without worrying about it. And if you dropped in the majority of the tie-down,

12:23you're pretty happy about that because what you've gotten from him is three quality games in a row. Whether touchdowns or just production. So I think you're just seeing what these two teams are. Juddkins is still going to hover in that 20-ish range. I can't get overexcited about what he did last night first touchdown on the season. It's the second time he's been involved in the passing game so far this year. So hopefully that's a staple of the softments. But just need to see a little bit more consistently. Like you said, Jaylen Warren, three catches. If you tell me the question, Juddkins getting three catches every week, I'll be thrilled. He big. He basically is. He's average. He's average, yes. But it hasn't been consistent. Yeah. Two of his last three has at least five catches. Yeah. I guess I agree. I hope that that continues on. I could make a case for Metcalf that he had a really tough schedule to start the year. Right. With a place around him and in like four weeks. I know. He's got a AJ Torelli. He's got Chris Schikanzales. He's got DJ Turner on him. Right. And he does have a stretch week. He does have a stretch later in the year where he has Houston. Philadelphia Cincinnati Philadelphia, Denver, Houston,

13:25four straight games. That's tough. But the rest of his schedule, I'm not really seeing it. Maybe sauce next week. Yeah, it's true. But there's a lot of games that could be good for him. All right, we got to move on here. Sunday, we're going to answer your starter sit questions. And we're going to do it super early. So join us Sunday morning 830 AM to 930 AM to get you ready for the London game. I mean, we're going to really talk about everything else. Answer all your questions. But because we have a game at 930, we'll be on from 830 to 930. And then from noon to 1. So this is at youtube.com slash fantasy football today. All times are Eastern 830 to 930 noon to 1 Eastern. We will see you Sunday morning. We've been setting records every Sunday. New FFT records in terms of viewership. So come keep setting records and we'll see you on Sunday morning. News and notes still don't know who's starting for the bears. Okay. Agent. Agent. Yeah. Why you think so? I think. You think it's going to be Beijing really?

14:26I think it's going to be Beijing. Okay. And Jaden Daniels was limited. So I obviously could be wrong. I'm just putting it out there whispering it in the universe. The Andre Swift mispractice with an e-entry. Yeah. Sucks. Yeah. So see if he gets back out there on Friday. If not, it's Menon guy's ZN. Tampa Bay's offensive coordinator Zach Robinson says he wants to get Sean Tucker and Kenneth Gamewell more involved and Buckier being limited with a glute issue. Sounds probably Jamie more like coach speak rather than something to take seriously or what? You know, we heard it what two weeks ago that they wanted to limit his touches. So I'm sure seeing him banged up and not being able to finish the game factors into that just makes sense to give I would give game a little bit more work in the passing game. I think that would help everybody. Travis H. And his on IR he will miss at least four games. The good thing for him is that it's four games then a buy. So it's five weeks without a game, you know, for Travis H. And then they're not committing to him being backed by then.

15:27It appears to be a pretty serious injury for him. Zach Charbonet practice. Now he can't play this week, but this is starting the clock for him. He's got three weeks now to be activated. So Charbonet is looming and Giddory and price mispractice as well. So we looked at that game yesterday to have chargers and Jag and Seahawks, excuse me. And what a Freudian slip that was. Why? I don't know. I don't know. I looked at LAC and I thought JAC and I just, anyway. Sure. But if Giddory and price is out, where would you put him, any Wilson in your rankings? He'd be fairly high. I think he'd be certainly in the number two running back range. But now we're talking about the rushing down sky for the Seahawks who also would get goal line carries. And we know that he's gotten goal line carries. And that's what tells us back from Giddory and price is he doesn't get the opportunity near the goal line. It's been much more of a manual Wilson there. So we might actually have a usable Seattle running back that we could be encouraged to start in a seemingly favorable matchup against the Chargers.

16:31Keaton Mitchell was limited with an ankle injury. Miami running back Jalen right, practice in full. He'll be good to go this week at Minnesota. Tony Pollard, practice in full. Tajay Spears I think was limited. Shot white. Oh, did he get a limited session in reshawed white or do you miss practice again? I think limited. Okay. I think so too. And Breeze Hall mispractice Justin Jefferson still calling him day to day, but he did not practice yesterday. Who can accrue expected to play? Ladde of a conkeys got a foot injury. And this, yeah, this is a one to definitely put on our radar with Ladde, Maconkey. I mean, they're at Seattle. So we did that one yesterday, right? Yeah. So Jamie, your thoughts on the sea hawks, the sorry, the cheese, the Chargers keep screwing that game up. The Chargers receivers, if Maconkey were out. Sure. I mean to say Bengals there, Adam. I don't know what you're talking. Oh, you think I'm going to game of the week. You okay? All right. All right. Go ahead, Jamie. I think the Chargers receivers will be one to avoid, but if you're looking for a desperation

17:35play, Trey Harris would come into the equation. He did have the best game of the Chargers receivers last week. So he'll get a bigger opportunity. It's just how much do you want to trust them with the way their offense looks right now, taking on Seattle? And David really threw me off my game. Rashad White, this practice, he did not practice yesterday. Interesting. Okay. Devante Smith expected to miss this week's game. Nico Collins, hoping, hopefully, training in the right direction. Caleb Douglas, mispractice and I, Mitchell, mispractice. Mike Evans, mispractice. Chris Godwin was able to practice. Kenyans, Cedike was limited, not expecting Dallas Goddard at this point. Good news for Carolina, the right tackle, Monroe, Freeling. Still only a concussion protocol, but he did get in a limited session. The Raiders could be without Gargx and Powers Johnson. He hasn't practiced yet this week. They're facing the Chiefs. Patriots are so banged up. Now they're right, tackle Morgan Moses, as mispractice. So has Christian Gonzalez. He has missed the first two practices of the week with a shoulder issue, as has defensive

18:38tackle Christian Barmore, as has Christian Benford of Buffalo. So key players on both sides, missing practice so far, but we know what it would mean for DJ more. Be a big deal for him if Christian Gonzalez did not play. We will take a break. And when we come back, one question for each game and how am I going to do? We've in the Bengals Jaguars game when we come back. I'm going to talk to you right now about Omaha stakes. And this is a perfect time for me to do it because just last night, I cooked four Omaha stakes for my family and they were awesome and we completely devoured them. And tonight Omaha stakes burgers and hot dogs for the family. They also have seafood and side dishes. They have so many things at Omaha stakes. If you want affordable, easy to make delicious food, Omaha stakes is honestly a no brainer. This is like having a trusted butcher and gourmet shop in your kitchen. And let me tell you about the burgers, incredible deal here. Try a burger perfection flight for just $79.99.

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22:42You can go Kyler Murray. You can potentially go Sam Darnold as far as Daniel Jones potentially as well. There's just not a lot of reason to be excited about Jalen Hertz. He's still have a good game clearly because of what he's capable of doing with his legs. But it's been it's been a tough two game stretch and now you're taking away his best receiver. Dante Vienwix becomes a definite starter and three receiver leagues, a borderline starter and two receiver leagues and that's about it. I think you should roster McCuy Lemmon just in case something happens. Just in case is a long term injury for Smith, there was one report that said it could be two to three weeks that he's out. And yeah, and then Barkley should be the focal point of the offense. Okay. I texted he last night. We share a team and I said, do you want me to drop or do you want to drop Brian Thomas Jr. from McCuy Lemmon? And he said, I would not. But if you feel it in your beard, I'm fine with it. Dave Denver's at San Francisco. How much do you like Debo Samuel if Mike Evans doesn't play? A lot. He's going to be the number one wide receiver option for the 49ers.

23:45It could mean that he ends up being number three in terms of just overall targets because Kittle will get his. And I think this is a Christian McCaffrey week just in general because of how bad the Broncos have been against the run. Plus McCaffrey can pick up a lot of the slack that Evans would leave behind as a short and intermediate target as with Debo Samuel. But I don't think Debo's role changes. I don't think he goes into a perimeter receiver like Mike Evans has done. I don't think he'll see a ton of patch or tan. And there's definitely an opportunity for Debo to have a better than average game. And last week he had a great game. I don't even know if he'll be quite as good as he was last week and he didn't even have a catch last week. That's being cheeky. Right. I think he could get five for 70 as a floor. Mass six for 70 as a floor. Yeah. I mean, Debo Samuel didn't have a target last week and Mike Evans really didn't play that much, but he did have a decent target share of the two prior weeks. Green Bay is a Tampa Bay. Jamie, can you trust any bucks players? Bucky. If you place, he'll be a number two running back. That's it.

24:46That's yeah. I mean, it's a Bucca will still be a starter in three or three leagues. You can't trust God one at this point. Going Don Tavy and Wix, 62% rostered by the way or a mecca Bucca. Don Tavy and Wix. I don't want to start either one of them. I will say about. I've got a Bucca higher. Don Tavy and Wix. Malik neighbors and Jalen Waddle combined for five and a half points against the Rams. Although let me check the Rams. Injury report, I think Justin Watts and one of their starting quarterbacks, corner backs is going to be questionable, but. But the other one is not. And if Devate Smith isn't on the field and Wix is basically determined the de facto number one receiver, where do you think Tremac Duffy is going to go? No way does he shadow Don Tavy and Wix. I think the only way he really does it is if Wix makes some big plays in the first half. And then the Rams say, okay, this is just where we need to go. I think the Rams are going to play a lot of zone anyway, because that's basically what you have to do against Philadelphia. But maybe they don't do it quite as much because Smith isn't on the field.

25:50Jalen Watson is not practicing this week. All right. Now look, I got a shadow Don Tavy and Wix, but obviously he'll be lined up on him at different times. Let's see, Detroit at Carolina, Dave, start or sit, Jameson Williams. I try and sit him. I do like him better than a mecca of Buka and Don Tavy and Wix. That's the game of the week. Yeah. Because you're kind of rude Jaguars Bengals. So I'm pivoting to the Lions and Panthers. Week four, game of the week. Hey. I like it. I'm a little surprised by it. I thought you would definitely do Bengals Jaguars as the game of the week, but this one certainly qualifies. It sounds like coaker is going to play, right? Limit him. He said that it's not up to him, and they have a buy next week. So I wonder how cautious they'll be in running him out there after he couldn't finish the last week. Gotcha. You know what? I like this call better if coaker plays. Yeah, me too. I just, I just, I'm, we'll talk about him when we get to the game, but there are things

26:52that worry me about the Carolina offense now. They've taken on some injuries and there are offensive tackles of come back down to earth. As for James and Williams, the type of coverage that Carolina over the last two years, James and Williams has not gotten a huge target per round run rate against cover three and doesn't have a huge yards per round run rate against cover three. This feels like an Amon Raus St. Brown, Jameer Gibbs, Sam Laporte, the joint. That being said, line just scoring 30 plus points every game. You want to fire a shot on Jameo because you figure he's going to come down with the ball at some point for a big play. This certainly could be the week for it, especially with Carolina's secondary ravaged by injuries. Yes, that's, that's maybe the biggest news item in terms of defensive injuries. Both of their starting cornerbacks, the Carolina Panthers are out this week. Jameo are done. They're out for four weeks. Yeah. Jameo and Don Tavianwix. Jameo. Jameo. Arizona at the Giants, Jamie, who's the best wide receiver in this game?

27:55Michael Wilson. Uh-oh. Wow. Okay. James and Williams are elite neighbors. Uh, I'd go neighbors. Okay. But Wilson ahead of both of them. David Atlanta at New Orleans, how do you feel about the Saints running backs against these falcons? I'm actually warming up to Camaro a little bit, but not enough to say that he's a must-start fantasy running back. He's just outside of my top 24. But it sounds like they're going to entrust in him to be the primary runner. And he didn't look terrible. He, he, the offensive line is part of it. They're good in New Orleans. I know they just lost their left tackle. And I know Atlanta's front is, is really good. He talked about it on our show on Thursday. I, I don't really want to start Alvin Camaro, but I would take him over to Darien Price at this point. I would take him over Tony Pollard. I would take him over Bill over Broncos running back. Wait. I'm going to give him a shot. White misses the game. Does that change your opinion? That would change, obviously. Yes. I don't know.

28:55But I feel like they'll probably just activate Echlor. And I don't know how much that would change. But maybe it would, you might be right. But Camaro seems like he's in line to get in the neighborhood of 12 to 15 touches. And that's a borderline RB2. Okay. Starter sit, Jamie Kyler Murray, our last game, Miami at Minnesota. Starter sit Kyler Murray in a great matchup. That I must start, guys, especially if Jefferson does not play, but certainly in the streaming conversation. So he's not ranked as a top 12 guy. He's actually just outside the top 15, but he's in that same mix of Jacobi Berset and Sam Darnold and I'm trying to think about this. Daniel Jones, you know, those type of guys that have great matchups and just have not really shown much yet or have the ability to, you know, disappoint you because of some previous history. Starter did not look great last week against Tampa Bay, but the dolphins have been a relative layup. He's not going to be as efficient as the last two quarterbacks have been in terms of my homes and party. I think that's obvious. Well, he run a little bit in this game.

29:56We'll see. He's just not going to have to do much because I don't think the dolphins are going to score. So don't expect a lot from him if Jefferson's on out there. Okay. Couple of comments I wanted to highlight. Adam, wait a pivot for the game of the week. Thank you, Mel. And earlier, Davey asked me if my eyes were green and Cory pointed out, I thought Adam's eyes were pink. No, that just Adam's eye. That's right. Yeah. Like back surezer. I've got different colored eyes. Spincawich go white socks, go Yankees, go baseball. Rams at Eagles. Okay. Stat of the game number one was that Malik neighbors and Jalen Waddle combined for five and a half fantasy points against the Rams. So beware. But this is amazing. Stat of the game number two, the Eagles are like, you really count the neighbors that like he left the game early and no, he didn't. The Rams game. He left for a little bit with the shoulder, the shoulder back and Jackson darker hurt. Yeah, but I mean, people started him. So you might count it. No, I count that. He played plenty as far as I recall. He heard a shoulder in the game. Who knows how healthy he was.

30:57He missed like one drive and came back. I don't know. He could get open. Obviously count it. But it's just, it's, you know, his quarterback got knocked out in the game and then he had to deal with James in that part. All right. So if you were the commissioner of a league and somebody started Malik neighbors and all that happened, would you let him replace them after the lineup? No, I'm asking Jamie. Not you. No, of course not. But I mean, like, just, just, just, you got to put it into a little bit of context why he was so bad in that game. Of course, that's not to put it in the context. It's still with the Rams. And Adam's point is the most valid of all, which is McDuffy shut him down or at least didn't let him run away very often in the game. It's kind of a res deceiving stat because McDuffy didn't shadow Waddle and he's not going to shadow Wix. But he did it times. Waddle. At times. Yeah. But that's the thing. Like, he's an outside corner and Wix is an outside receiver. Oh, he went in the slide against Waddle too. Yes, I know, but he didn't shadow him. But he's going to line up against Devon, against on Tavy and Wix. So it's whatever, whatever, whatever.

31:59It's not the typical great matchup to stream this guy who's stepping up into a bigger role. What's all I'm saying? Although without, without their number two cornerback, I think that's going to make things easier. The other stat was that the Eagles are the only team in football that doesn't have a takeaway. That's amazing. They have three sacks and three games and they haven't forced a turnover. That's really wild. One of the best defense interceptions. And one of the right. Yeah. That's why they have no takeaways. And why they said the Rams, I'm sorry. No, it's the Eagles. Oh, I thought you said the Rams. I hope that. We're going to my world. Jalen Carter playing with a hairline fracture doesn't seem to be a very good thing either. This defense is definitely underwhelming. I've dropped them in a bunch of leagues, pivoted to the Browns in a couple of leagues that did not work out well. But the Packers defense, especially, I don't love them. But going up against Jalen Daniels, you've got to take the chance on them. I would start them ahead of the Eagles. Okay. So does that mean that Stafford should have a big game here? He's now 11th for Jamie 10th for Dave and 9th for Heath.

33:01Jamie, I mean, it feels low. But is that just about how good quarterback is? That's a great position this week, yes. So you're starting Stafford if you have him. It's a good opportunity with Puka back. It's a huge part of this also. So we'll see how they sort of intertwine everybody together with what Devonte has done. How healthy is Puka? Does A tight end step up this week? It would most likely be Higby. But I mean, the Stafford has been fantastic the last two weeks. I don't know why anybody's getting away from unless you just have much better options. So like Tyler Schuck or Stafford, I start Schuck. That's a small percentage of people that are in that situation. What would you do with Bryce Young? I know what I would do. I'm just asking. I would start Stafford over him. Yeah, me too. Okay. You know, he's got a little bit of a checkered history against Vic Fanjo. But for the most part, he's been anywhere from okay to pretty good. He's never been amazing against Fanjo. And that's what I would expect. Maybe around 23 fantasy points for Stafford. Okay. And how about Higby? Who's going to be a better flex?

34:02Octavian Wicks or Tyler Higby? Is Puca playing? Yeah, Puca's playing. Is Devonta Adams playing? Yeah. I'll take Wicks because I don't think Higby will do a lot. Okay. Or asked to do a lot. All right. So is Higby in your top 15? Not anymore. No. All right. It was all contingent on Puca. Okay. On the other side of the ball, Jalen Hertz was a borderline top 12 quarterback. Jamie, where did you move him after the news of Devonta Smith being out? 16. And Dev's 17 and Heath is currently 13 on Jalen Hertz. Aaron Donald may not play. And I know that I might think, oh, that's a big deal in the run game, but it's a huge deal in the past game as well. If they don't have Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett. So that could help. But yeah, I mean, I have heard, I have heard some staff in Italy. That was a tough decision for like a day. And now it's an easy one. Right. Yep. It's a pretty easy game, though. And so, you know, you're starting Barclay, you're starting Kyron, you're starting Adams and Puca. And it's really, Dave, how do you feel about Wix and Lemon this week?

35:02I don't want to start them. I certainly don't want to start Lemon. Wix, I understand if you're a little bit hungry at wide receiver and you need a number three, he's in that mix. But we already talked about Jamo, Obuca. Those two guys for sure should be started ahead of him. We'll come across other names that I would start ahead of Wix too. I'm worried about how the coverage changes for him. And while he's looked great in tandem with Jalen Hertz, I just, I worry about, I'm about how effective he'll be, even if there is a target bump, it's a role that might be a little bit too big for him with coverage that might be too strong for him. It's a big difference in the rankings. I mean, Jamie's got Wix in the 20s, Dave in the 30s. So it's 28th for Jamie, 38th for Dave, 25th for Heath. All right. Different opinions. He's a definite starter in three or three of these. And I would start him over at Bucca. I picked him up in a couple of leagues. I'm starting him over. Oh gosh. I don't know if anyone cares. I think it's Devon Valle. Well, yeah, and they're being lab mcconkey.

36:05But I'd start him over Valle. I'm sure I assume you guys would too. I wouldn't. That's close. That's agreed. It's close. Let me give you some names. You tell me where you've got him compared to Wix. Keenan Allen. Wix. Alan. I have Alan. Khalif Raymond. Wix. Wix. Raymond. Raymond. Quentin Johnston. Wix by a mile. Well, that's the thing. I mean, it is Wix by a mile. I want to throw a ball in there, even if mcconkeys out. Yeah, Wix by a mile. Malik. Malik the freak Washington. Wix. Definitely. So here's one that I have to decide. Right now, I had mcconkey in there. I took him out because I feel like you might miss the game. But Wix or Camera in a half PPR league. Wix. That's a close one. I think I like Wix a little bit better. Yeah, I'm going to go with that too. I think the Rams are going to score. I think he goes going to have to throw and you'll get enough from Wix. It's Wix surprisingly Wix. Shout out Chicago. Also, you said something about being hungry and starting Wix.

37:07That's the pun you need to make for Lemon. Lemon should be added. I mean, I'd rather see Lemon come out and do something. Yeah. Same. That in appealing game because of what he's able to do over the middle of the field. It's just a matter of whether or not Hertz can find him consistently there. It's been very sour so far. Yeah. Right, right, right. And so I'm hoping that I'm hoping that Hertz doesn't get yellow about this whole thing. All right. Listen, you're beating around the bush here. Starter citrus. All right. Rams DS. We're going to citrus lemon. I'd rather start Wix. Rams DST is a star. Let's read some questions here. Blake Korum. Romo Dunze or Keenan Allen have PPR. Allen. I agree. Darren Waller or Don Tavian Wix? Waller. I might pivot to Wix if Coke or plays, but it's going to be really close because I do expect Waller to have a shot at a touchdown. I don't know if Wix has it.

38:08Wix or Downs? Downs. Downs, Downs. Blake Korum. Woody Barks or Malik Washington PPR. Return Yards Count. Washington. Agreed. Kyron Williams or Basil Tutten? Kyron. But it's Kyron. Looks. Hertz or Marriota CJ Stroud, Daniel Jones, four point. Marriota. I like Marriota better as well. Assuming, of course, that JD5 doesn't play. Sequan Barclay, Chase Brown or Matthew Golden PPR. How are you sitting any of these guys? I have to start Chase Brown. I believe I have Chase Brown the highest. Will I read this one, Dave? I would like to read this one. First, I want to confirm that I've Chase Brown the highest and I do. Give me life or give me lemon. Okay. Hey, next game, Denver at San Francisco. I was wired last Sunday, dude. Yeah, yeah, it's great. I was on one. Yeah, I love it. I hope you can bring that energy at 8.30 in the morning.

39:10No chance. You're lucky I'm here at 8.30 in the morning. Denver at San Francisco. Bonyx is a sit. Bonyx or Jalen Hertz? Hertz. Still Hertz. But one surprise me, and Nick says a good game. I mean, the 49ers defense did not look great last week. And they're not getting any help on their defensive line right now. So we'll see. How would you rank Dobbins with the Seahawks guys, the Patriots guys? Poorly. Better than the Seahawks guys worse than the Patriots or worse than Remundre. He's behind Remundre. He's behind Price. I'm not I'm not enjoying JK. He's behind Harvey. He's rather. I mean, he left one game with an injury, but he doesn't even have, I think he has less than 13 point. Now, he's like 13 points, something points in three games. Yeah, RJ Harvey could catch some balls. He's got 8.1 and 10.7 PPR fantasy points in two games.

40:1110 catches for RJ Harvey on the year. So the tough call is Jalen Waddle. Jamie, how do you feel about Jalen Waddle this week? Number two receiver. Low end number two receiver. So depending on like Christian Gonzalez situation, I started him over more. Gonzalez is it out then I'd start more. I started more wicks clearly. Start him over neighbors. Macauke. It's just been fresh. I'm sorry. Macauke, you're Jalen Waddle. I don't want to start Macauke against the C-Ox. If he's less than 100%. I don't want to start maybe it was 100%. What if he was 110%? No, still a lot of. It's just they're not connecting right now. It's annoying. So you like that he got seven targets last week. It just, I think, take into account that who knows if he's playing through something or when he got hurt with the, that he was in a walking boot. So until he starts to show something consistently, he's going to be in that borderline two three range, I think most weeks. But I'll take him against this defense.

41:12I think back to week two, okay, not as tough of a matchup for Jalen Waddle. No disrespect to Travis Hunter or anybody else in that Jacksonville defense. I didn't think that they had anybody that could really limit Waddle. I didn't think that they would bracket Waddle. I did think their pass rush could get to Bone X and yet Waddle went out and he had a sensational game. I don't think the 49ers pass rush is going to get to Bone X that much. And I don't think they've got a secondary. I don't think they're willing to commit to guys to Jalen Waddle on every play. So I actually have Waddle as a top 20 wide receiver this week. Number two guy, but top 20 and I think he does have a chance to have another blow up spot. The problem with this team is going to be the problem every week for the most part, which is there's going to be so many guys involved. This was the fear coming into the season. So last week, Corlan Sutton had their best game from a receiving standpoint. Pat Bryan continues to be a factor yet. The one game with Evan Ingram. It's just what they do. And so can he exceed the seven target limit?

42:12I think that's going to be the issue for him on a week to be based. Well, he's had at least seven targets, two straight weeks. That's very cool. I don't think anybody else on the, I'm looking as I say this on the Broncos has even had through. I got changed the number to five, five plus targets in back to back games. That hasn't happened yet. Sutton had five four. Seven and seven last week and he's not doing anything with his targets. I feel comfortable with Waddle being kind of a notch ahead of everybody else and done for his off-hunts. Oh, he, for sure. But it's just, it's been the track record for Bonix, Sean Payton for the last two years. It's been like one guy getting slightly more on a week to week basis. But I'm having flashbacks to March and April. They didn't have a guy like Waddle. And that's the difference. Is that in previous iterations of this offer? Sure. I'm having for the first part of the season has not been great either. That's true. Bad good bad. Hopefully this is a good. Okay. Start Brock Purdy. Are you gonna downgrade Purdy if Evans is out?

43:13Yeah, but you're not ranked right now as if Evans is not playing so far. Right. So downgrade. Let's define that because normally I think Brock Purdy, I won't speak for Jamie and Heath, but like top three fantasy quarterback must start type guy. He's not even top five because Evans is out and because the past rush for Denver, I think it's still very good. And I have questions about how healthy Trent Williams is and how effective he'll be. So yes, I downgraded Brock Purdy, but I'm still gonna start him over pretty much everybody. I think if you've got Purdy and Shuck, you've got a tough call to make. And I think the case can be made for Shuck to have better stats than Purdy this week. Let's not act like Denver isn't good against quarterbacks. He's passionate about home, he's had a good game because he had a rushing touchdown. Trevor Lawrence was horrible. Six point two fantasy points. And Matthew Stafford was good. He threw 55 passes and scored 25 fantasy points. But Denver's typically better at home. This is a road game for them. And Purdy is in the freaking zone right now. If he doesn't have Evans though, and you did, like I said, you said Jamie, you did rank

44:17it as if that's the case. Jamie has Purdy fourth. Dave has him eighth and Heath has Purdy second. He is playing absolutely incredible football. I get it. Christian McCaffrey is a start. Mike Evans, I'm assuming, would be a start if he played. But as of now, we're not expecting that. So Debo Samuel, Jamie, how come Debo Samuel is not like a top 20 guy. He's 35th for you and 27th for Dave and 30th for Heath. Because it's Debo Samuel. And I don't like Dave gave the floor. I would take the under on six for 70. I just don't think that's like his best game so far was what, six for 35 in week one. He got the 48, 48, whatever. So I was still not 70. Yeah. He's still going to face tough coverage. I don't know if he'll beat Riley Moss, but I don't know how much he'll consistently beat Riley Moss. So they're still going to have coverage that's tough for him to deal with. And the thing about the 49ers, which is going to be interesting. And this is where you got to be creative. You know, it does walkins or cowing or any of the other guys.

45:18Now they elevated Brandon Cooks. Like there's going to be other players in his office that step up. And that's just the nature of Kyle Shanahan and how good this scheme is. So I just don't think it's all Debo Samuel because Mike Evans is not there. Right. They could also employ use check. They've got other tight ends that they could use. People that were not even remotely considering for fantasy, but could help party still have a good game. Even if Debo doesn't have a good game. Yeah. I think Debo will have a good game. I think he's a good match up here. He's a great starter in three or three relics. That's a great way to put it. He's not top 24 for me, Adam. Braylon Allen or Debo Samuel. Braylon Allen. Pretty sure I've Debo higher. Got a question. And I start wix over Debo. Jamie says wix over Debo. David does not agree. No. Debo over Braylon Allen too. Debo or Harvey? Debo. Debo. Debo. Debo. Let me read some chat questions. George Kittle is a start. Dobbins or Camera? Camera. Yep. I agree. I'll get more passive. Yep.

46:19What are your mojolms? Mojolms. I think I have pretty high. There's a question about two quarterbacks whose last name ends in X. Nix or Pennix? Nix. Bo. Dobbins or Woody Marks? What's the format? P-R-P-P-R. Woodrow Marks. Traded Kittle and Montgomery for craft and neighbors. Which side do you like better? Kittle and Montgomery are craft and neighbors. I think I like the Kittle and Montgomery side better. Craft and neighbors. Waddle or Valle? Waddle. Waddle. Debo or Pickens? Pickens. Georgie Porgy. That's not close. Blueberry or chocolate chip muffin? Chocolate chip. Look at me. Look how fat I am. I think I'm going to say blueberry in the morning chocolate chip at night. Um, borough. Bear's weird. Borough or Purdy? Purdy? Borough. And finally, Purdy or Stafford?

47:19Purdy. Braak. That's not weird. That makes perfect sense, Dave. You make no sense. The answer to the question is obviously yes. You're going to take one of each. You know, I have not had a problem with it. That's what I do once every Thursday here in the office. I haven't had a muffin in years. Really? They are arguably the most unhealthy thing on planet Earth. Look at the back of a muffin. It is, you couldn't believe how much fat and sugar it is. Unbelievable. And it's so sad because they're just, they're the best. I miss muffins. Okay, we'll be back after this with five more games on Fantasy Football today. If you haven't done so already, you have to check out What Not. What Not is the largest live shopping marketplace in the United States. You can see the sellers showcase their products and purchase what you want. It's so cool. They have so many things to buy. I just went on What Not a few minutes ago. And within five minutes, what did I see for sale? Bugs, appers, hacks, golf balls, super Nintendo games, vacuums, shoes.

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50:23Green Bay at Tampa Bay. Okay, Bon Jovi fans, here comes your, you give love a bad name, stats of the game. Here are some bad stats about Jordan love. Jordan love does not have a rushing yard yet. Jordan love is averaging a career low 6.8 yards per attempt. Jordan love has the second worst completion percentage in the NFL ahead of only Jamest Winston. Jordan love has the second worst off target rate in the NFL ahead of only Malik Willis. And he's got the worst offensive line arguably in football. Uh, and by the way, he's nearly 60% of his past attempts are under 2.5 seconds, which is the second highest rate in the NFL. See bad offensive line. Uh, so like I, I think, you know, the production we got last week from love was good enough 22.5 points, but it was on 58, 53 pass attempts. Jamie starter sit Jordan love at Tampa Bay. Start but low in starter. His track record is, is very consistent when he's been over 30 pass attempts. And so two of three games over 30 pass attempts, two of three games over 20 fantasy points.

51:23So I think that will continue. They cannot run the ball and they cannot protect anything. So the only concern I have is, and you see it based on the total, if Tampa Bay doesn't score is it's just a low scoring field goalfest, and we don't get the type of production we need from Jordan love. But this offense clearly is a passing offense at this point. I don't even know if Josh Jacobs changes that because how bad the offensive line is when he does, if he does eventually return. So I just look at it this way like, golems playing great, Watson's playing great, cracks is going to bounce back this week. Uh, Jordan love is worth starting as as a number one quarterback. You know, Jamie, I just a little peek behind the curtain here. Actually, no, I don't think I can share that part of it. But I was going to send you a tweet, but I got lazy. Did you see what Christian Watson said? No, it's a homecoming for him. Oh, he's excited about like playing in front of his friends and whatever. So I know you love that stuff. I don't think anybody's benching him. No, no matter where he's playing. He wants to have a big game. So he and Golden, he and Golden both what top what receivers?

52:25I mean, Watson's the top 10 receiver and goals at top 20 guy. Yep. Yeah, baby. Let's do it. Golden or Waddle Golden. I believe I have Waddle higher. All right, but you're still starting gold. Go live through my teeth. Golden once about that. Started to get away from a guy averaging 10 targets for him. Yeah. Yeah, Tucker craft has only a 14% target share. So far this year is this going to be the weekday for Tucker craft? Would you start Darren Waller over him? I don't think I would. I think I think it's close between those two. I know that craft is let people down. I do have Waller right to head. So maybe I would, but that's if Coker doesn't play. So that's how I'll wiggle my way out of that one. But craft low target volume is a little bit frustrating. But the offensive lines of mass. Tampa struggles against the past. Maybe this is a week where he can get some targets in the red zone and come close and score and not come close to scoring. So low end star kind of a borderline start. So low end targets for the season.

53:27Yes, but first game without Jay and Reed, granted through 50 times. But I think we're going to get close to 40 attempts for him again. Eight targets last week. So I think we're looking at seven plus on a week to week basis for craft. Oh, that's that's a lot of targets. That would be great. And they can't run the ball. I know that's the 119 targets more than that. That's a lot. But it's hopeful now. This buck's defense, Gassicki had 78 yards in a touchdown. He was wide open in the end zone for which it had been a second one. Blake Whiteheart caught a touchdown. Fanon had five for 54 on six targets. Looks like a good matchup right now for tight ends. It's early though. And the case, the case for craft also includes the fact that his playing time is normalized. So I don't think we can look at his numbers and say, well, the reason why he's not doing well is because he's barely on the field. No, he's on the field a lot. And so you're it's a hope. It's not backed by, you know, hard and fast data. That he's going to go out there and have a big game. But the steam can't run. They're trying to fix the offensive line. It's at best work in progress.

54:28One of the easy ways to get around that is throwing short to craft. It's just a matter of, well, you can throw short to craft or you can throw a little bit further down field of Watson or Golden. If you were Jordan Love, what would you do? Well, you would try to do that. But like I said, he's getting the ball out faster than any other quarterback other than Joe Burrow, I think this year. And yet the targets aren't as high as you'd think they'd be for Tucker craft. Yeah, it's true. He's got such a great arm that he can get the ball out quickly and still throw the ball down field. It's kind of crazy. On the Tampa Bay side, Bucky Irving is a top 20 guy, 15th for Jamie, 19th for Dave, 14th for Heath. And that's pretty much all we want to start. Abukas about 35th or so in the rankings. Yeah. You know, Jamie real quick on on Abuka, the waiver wire running backs on the dolphins, Saints and Jets. How many of them would you start over Abuka this weekend? Just for a little. About a half people are like just for a little. All right. And yeah, and then the Packers DST anybody want to start the Packers DST? Yeah, looks like.

55:29Do I want to not really? I don't know how you feel about it, Jamie. I thought this was a tough week for DST. So it wasn't a great streaming week for the one. You know, this was this was a week for chalk, you know, and it didn't work out with the Steelers. Well, I guess they did they got to watch in a couple of times and intercept them. This was one of the best streaming DSTs. I mean, we have no idea what Jalen Dano is going to look like. And he could be amazing and we look ridiculous or he could be terrible. And that's what undrafted free agent quarterbacks are for reason. Yeah. I watched this preseason one of his preseason games. Okay. Yeah. I think there's going to be some turnovers. He's got a strong army. He's got some talent. He'll based on the one looking go guy. Yeah, he'll try to make some big plays, but he'll make some mistakes based on the 20 drop backs. I saw against I think it was Jaguars. All right. And I watched them all, but what you saw is the exact same thing of what he is.

56:30Yeah. Muffins are for the week says, a screw. I don't agree with that. We're wrong. It's the muffins of the week. Yeah. Bucky or Monty? Bucky. Bucky. Love or Herbert? Well, I've heard. What did you say? Jordan. Oh, you said Jordan. If Swift sits Menongai or Irving. Menongai. Agreed. Neighbors or Golden? Golden. Uh, Golden. Michael Wilson or Golden? Golden. By the way, we've just previewed the entire Giants. Giants Cardinals game with those two questions. Kraft or Juan Johnson? We didn't talk about the right one. I know. I agree. Juan. Okay. Pick three if Jalen Coker plays. Golden, McClaurin, Nico, Coker. Not Coker. Uh, it's at Coker. Kraft or likely? Kraft is a. Kraft or Sadeek? Sadeek.

57:31Kraft. Bucky or Javante in that brutal matchup? Bucky and a Javante. And likely, Vale, Abuca or Braylon Allen? Not Abuca. Tighten up. Tighten up. Tighten up. I'm free. I go likely. Okay. Green Bay, sorry, Detroit is what I meant at Carolina. It's that of the game. The Lions have allowed three touchdown passes in each of their first three games. They actually do get a decent amount of pressure, though. They have been 9th or 10th in pressure rate each of the last two weeks. They had five sacks against the Jets in week three. And we saw that unravel Bryce Young last week, Dave. So what are your concerns if you have any about Bryce Young this week? We were so excited about how the Panthers offensive line looked after week one. Wow. Those backup tackles look great. And by week three, those offensive tackles started to struggle. And the other big issue is that Damian Lewis, their left guard,

58:32is going to miss some time. And he missed some time last week, two against Cleveland. And I think that that hurt Bryce Young quite a bit. And when he's pressured, his efficiency just knows dives. It's been that way ever since he's been in the league. And I would imagine that the Lions are going to take note of that. And they're going to come after Bryce Young. Obviously, they're going to do it especially through the A gaps where that left guard spot is. And they're going to take them down there. And that makes me especially nervous if Coker doesn't play because Coker can be a good receiver frame to turn to on short throws, quick throws. And I don't know if McMillan is that guy. And if this is the case where there's no Coker and McMillan, two great games with a lot of targets. And then when they really could have used them, and maybe it was just the Browns trying to take them away without Coker on the field, he only had five targets last week. And that's about McMillan, not to the point where I'm going to sit him, but lower than expected as a number two receiver and not necessarily a number one receiver. I know the Lion Secondary is ugly right now.

59:33I think the past rush has its way with the Panther's offensive line. It's why I can't put Bryce Young back in my top 12. You've got him 15th, Jamie has him 10th. And I will give you the big news now. Jaden Daniels, according to Ben Stad, standick. Jaden Daniels will not play this week. And Marcus Mario is going to start for the commanders. So my next question. All right. Marcus Mario or Bryce Young? Bryce. I believe I have Mario to hire. You have one spot higher. I finally got one right. Leave it yourself. Okay, Jamie you're more optimistic you have Bryce Young 10th. And I think you're just fired up for this passing game in this matchup. Yeah, I think we're going to find out that this Cleveland defense is actually pretty good. This Detroit defense is not. So they may have some things planned for this Panther's defensive line. Executing it is a lot different. So Bryce struggled last week and still through two to 91 yards. Yeah. He's pretty solid quarterback right now with the way that he's performing and losing Coker sucks. But now you get the bonus of playing any tight ends against this defense.

1:00:36And that's where Waller comes in. And if you are stuck very deep leagues, look at Bryce Tremaine. Bryce Tremaine stepped up last week with both Coker and Xavier Lee getting up being there. And that could be the short area target that they lean on from just an option for for a Bryce Young. But I think just looking at it from the what is expected to happen here. The Lions are going to score and the Panthers are going to have to keep up. Will they keep up? I don't know. They did so in from a fantasy perspective in week one against the Bears defense. And this defense is pretty atrocious. So I think Darren Waller's got a huge opportunity here. He is probably the only if you still want to put you on Johnson's conversation, but only free agent tight ends. So even as good as Cedeque was last week, why was Cedeque great? Well, there was players missing in playing Detroit. And this is Darren Waller. Player is missing in playing Detroit. So it's whether it happens or not, it's the wide open layup. Does LeBron come and erase it? You know, like you did to Iguodala. We'll find out. This is that perfect spot for a player to have a huge game.

1:01:41And hopefully Darren Waller delivers. So Waller, this is a somewhat easy game with a lot of starts. Right? You should start golf. Where do you guys have golf? I'm going to see real quick. Golf is a fifth for Jamie, ninth for Dave, fifth for Heath. You're going to, I think I'm probably going to start. I picked up Wix, but I think I'm going to still start to mere Gibbs over him. But we'll see. You're going to start St. Brown. You're St. LaPorta. You know, we can have do some LaPorta ores. But the Waller Coker thing is really interesting here. So right now, Waller is ninth for both of you. And where would he be if Jalen Coker is plays? And the pro, you know, one of the problems is Sunday night. So we may not know on Sunday. But let's say we do know if Jalen Coker is in Dave, what are you doing with Darren Waller? I think he would at best be 12th for me. And I would start likely ahead of him. I would start to Deika ahead of him in that case. I'd be worried about the target volume being there for Waller and the event that Coker plays. I wouldn't move. Yeah, I mean, I get your conviction. It is a great matchup. But again, he got all of his targets, all eight of them last week

1:02:44without Coker. And two. And two touchdowns a week before with Coker. So I'm not excited about a guy who has three catches for 33 yards and two touchdowns on the top. I would agree with you, except against this team. They've given up two touchdowns per game, two tight ends. And so five of those guys, so it's not just been the same guy. It's six different guys and five of them, 13 and a half PPR points or more. So it's been a second tight end. So Jeremy Rucker last week and week one, it was no offense. And week two, the floor was eight and a half for Dawson Knox. So it's just looking at this opportunity. So could there be somebody else that does it? Sure. Absolutely. Tommy Trumble. They're abysmal. Absolutely abysmal at defending this position right now. So, and that's the question you have to ask yourself with Waller is, okay, I can pencil them in for a touchdown. Can you go beyond that? And it's just so much easier to believe in it if Coker doesn't play. Or if Coker, if we hear that Coker plays,

1:03:46but it's going to be a real limited snap count, something like that. I'd be a little surprised if Coker ends up playing. Yeah. All right. Fair enough. And Darren Waller is going to be a star. Darren Waller will stand Laporta. Laporta. Laporta. Okay. And yeah, James and Darren Waller or James and Williams? I go all the way. I might go JMO. James and Williams or Braille and Allen. Allen. I believe I have, they're really close for me. Let's stop the whole show. I've got JMO a little bit ahead of Braille and Allen. Where are you going to rank Coker if he plays? 25, 26th. Yeah. I think he'd be behind Burden for me and I have Burden at 27. You don't want to miss that? We also, unless there's guarantee, we also have to, you know,

1:04:46be somewhat conscientious of our readers and listeners and viewers, which we always do when we have these night games of ranking them a little bit lower in case they don't play. Yeah. Someone asked about the weather in this game. I don't think this is a game to worry about. However, there are four games that have some weather concerns according to Kevin Roth. Cardinals Giants, Titans Ravens, Packers Box, Rams Eagles. Nothing too, too bad right now, but something to keep an eye on. Chuba Hubbard is a must start and let's get some questions here. Bryce Young or Joe Burrow? Joe Burrow. Younger Shuck. Shuck. Tyler Shuck is my fourth ranked quarterback this week. Gough or Hertz? Gough. Hey, you stud muffins. Jamo Ramondra or Khalif Raymond, PPP. Thanks for noticing. I'll take Raymond. Raymond is safer. I didn't mention this one thing about James and Williams watching the game last week. He made a catch.

1:05:46The first pass of the game was to James and Williams. When he made the catch, the broadcaster said, they want to get this guy more involved. I believe they do. It's just, it's been hard. The Jets did everything they could to take away the deep ball last week and it was a problem for him. It worked great. Great job by the Jets. We're going to say this every week until it happens. There's going to be a blow up game for James and it might happen this week. The setup is perfect because of the corner's missing for the Panthers. Just take that into account. And Bryce or Murray. Bryce. Bryce are darnled. Bryce. Bryce. Half PPR, Braille and Allen, Jalen Coker or Luther Burton. I think I'm probably going to have burdened the highest of the three. Bird. Jamo or Mokonky. You'll know that. I'd probably still go Mokonky over Jamo. Okay. And let's move on to our next game.

1:06:46What do we got? I think we have three left here. We have, I'm sorry to make everybody wait an hour for Arizona at the Giants. It's that of the game. The Cardinals have allowed seven touchdown passes on only 53 combined pass attempts in their last two games. The Drew Lock and Brock Purti. This is a really good matchup for everyone, I think. I don't know that there's a strong units run defense or pass defense in this game. So it's exciting, but it's hard to trust the Giants offense, Dave, for sure. The Cardinals are two and a half point favorites in New York. Who are the tough calls in this game, Dave? I think Malik neighbors is the toughest call of all because we want to believe in him. When you watch him play, there are, you don't see it on every single play, but there are definitely flashes of the old Malik neighbors running around out there. But he is stuck right now. This offense with James Winston as the quarterback is not going to be efficient at all.

1:07:46And James really, I talked about it with Scott Turner on Wednesday. He, Scott thought they had more to do with the weather than it did. James's skills. But I can't help myself. What I believe what I see and I see James Winston taking a little bit longer in his throwing motion, taking a little bit longer to read coverage and then his pastures aren't as fast as they used to be. That's a one and a half game sample size or one in seven eighths game sample size, whatever. If there was an opponent where James would have time to throw, have time to make the reads and still place the ball where it needs to be, this is it. Because Arizona's secondary isn't very good. Their past rush isn't very good. So there are going to be chances here for Malik neighbors to make some big plays. Here's another wrench to throw in. I don't know if John Harball wants to throw the ball all over the place, but he might have to let his quarterback do it. Because I think Arizona would put up points whether it's by running the ball or by throwing the ball against this giant's defense. So I can't be hyper encouraged about Malik neighbors and go out and say, yeah, he's a top 20 receiver.

1:08:49Don't worry about what you saw. He's a number three receiver. And a lot of it is based on the hope that James Winston can find him and throw him in place the ball where he can make a play after the catch. I couldn't like Jeremiah Lovemore. I think he's going to have an amazing week. You have to see your number one running back. No, but I feel like I would take him over. Some of the guys, I think I'd start him over Chase Brown. I'd start him over Aaron Jones. You guys both have him one spot ahead of Jones. Start him over Kyron Williams. Javon De Williams. You guys would also do that. I'd start him over Barkley. Dave would do that. Jamie has Barkley one spot ahead. We'd both, we'd start him over Gentie. I'm sure I could be wrong about that. The good thing is start, you know, all the guys that we've said. But start. I think he's our favorite. He and McBride are two favorite players in this game. Yeah. Which, you know, that's not saying anything from McBride. You expect that. But we're, we're buying into Love after last week.

1:09:49His playing time went up. His workload went up. He looks great. And I think Arizona leans in him. Just as this matchup is exciting for James, it's exciting for Jeremiah Love too, because the giant's defense, you said it. It's just not very good. Exciting for Michael Wilson, although I think the Dante Banks should be back for the Giants, one of their starting corners. He's missed the last two games. Michael Wilson is 19 for Jamie, 25th for Dave, 24th for Heath. Malik neighbors is in the similar range, although Heath has Malik neighbors, 40th. But you guys both like Wilson ahead of neighbors. Do you like Cam Skatibu or neighbors, Jamie? Skatibu. How do you feel about Skatibu this week? Mids here number two running back. You know, I like the fact that he was involved in the passing game last week. So hopefully that continues. I would not shock me if he scores in this game. Like Dave said, you know, Harboh wants to be conservative and lean into making this a low scoring game. And we'll see if the weather impacts that as well. I kind of don't really. It's hard to judge neighbors because, again, losing, losing Dart in the Rams game

1:10:50against the Rams, a pissed off Rams team coming off that loss that they just had. And then neighbors did get hurt. However much time he missed, you know, you want to argue if that was enough or not to, you know, say that he was 100%. He clearly was bothered by something. And then you have the game in the terrible weather against the Titans. And so, look, James is not the, this isn't the best version of James. You know, he's what, 32 now, 33. He's going to struggle. He's been a backup quarterback for many years for a reason now at this point. There's going to be opportunities for Mike neighbors because of James that are going to help neighbors, especially in a game against this secondary, which thinks. And so, I think neighbors has a chance here. My hope is that the car no come out and score early in that the giant chasing points. And then we get, you know, sort of that track meet game. So hopefully the weather holds up and we get to see it. Okay. So, I think that's where the Cato Boe or Bucky Irving. Irving. They're close. I believe I have Schedubu higher. Michael Wilson or Bucky Irving.

1:11:52Wilson. Michael Wilson or Bucky Irving? I think I've got Bucky a little higher. All right. And then likely it's 9th or 10th for you guys. He's 6th for, for Keith. Look, it's a, it's a prove it week for the Giants. Keep saying it. Prove it week for the Giants' passing game. There's horrible weather again and we can make another excuse for them, but they just have to show something because they've been pathetic. And it's just one of those where you sometimes you watch those offenses and you're like, this offense is god awful. And that's what they've been the last two weeks. The best news I've seen for this offense came scataboop, played 77% of the snaps last week and he was the primary third down back with Devon Singletary inactive. That is awesome. A question from the chat, where is Jacoby Perset in the rankings, Jamie? 13th. Wow. Way too low. I've got him 12. That's well. Bryce, younger Jacoby Perset. Bryce, I've got Perset higher. That's going to flip if the weather's really bad in New Jersey on Sunday.

1:12:55Mario, per set. Perset, but same for... Perset. All right. Chat questions likely or Odunze, Blake Corum or Keenan Allen, half PPR. I go likely. I think I'm Michael Keenan Allen. Likely or Sadeek. Likely. And again, we gotta keep an eye on the weather. Could change how we feel about likely. Michael Wilson or Matthew Golden. Golden. Uh, maybe. Stanway? Golden. Maybe. Neighbors, burden or Addison if Jefferson is out. Birdon. I believe I have Addison the highest. And then neighbors are burden. Bird. Bird and one spot ahead of neighbors. Mike Wilson or Parker Washington. Washington. Would you trade neighbors for Montgomery in PPR? No chance. No. Likely or Loveland. Do you like or do you love?

1:13:56Uh, likely. Next game. Oh, uh, no DST's here. Next game. Yes, please. Atlanta's at the Saints Monday night. The only thing that would make me nervous about Tyler Schuck is that the Falcons are number one in pressure rate with the second lowest blitz rate in the NFL. It is one of the most shocking things so far in football. Um, that this team that had missing both of their edge rushers is number one in pressure rate. However, all three weeks, the Saints have played. The team they have played has done worse in pressure rate than what they've done for the season. In other words, they face Detroit. Detroit is eighth overall in pressure rate. They were 20th when they face the Saints. Baltimore is 18th in pressure rate. They were 24th when they face the Saints. The Raiders are third in pressure rate. They were 16th when they face the Saints. Uh, and Schuck gets rid of the ball pretty quickly. But I thought that was a cool stat. Saints are protecting him, I guess. They have a great offensive line.

1:14:56I was worried about how they'd hold up last week because Calvin Banks is out for a while. That's their left tackle. And it was almost unnoticeable. Yeah. Like they were still a really good offensive line. And you said it, Schuck is getting the ball out materially quickly. It's his average time to throw is 2.72 seconds. Some of that includes him running out of the pocket, holding the ball while looking down field and then making a throw. He does that a decent amount of the time. He's also halfway decent at avoiding the past rush too. He's just off to an excellent start. His past catchers are off to an excellent start. He's got an awesome play collar. And the low key secret is the offensive line, which we weren't sure about coming into the year. And now here they are playing great with a second string left tackle. All right. So we'll see if the past rush can get to him here. But unbelievably, you guys all have Tyler Schuck in the top four this week. So start Tyler Schuck. We're going to sit tile pits. Let's see. This has actually been a good matchup so far for Titans.

1:15:58But most of that is Brock Bauer's having a huge game last week. But then Andrews both had 48 and 49 yards. We would love that from pits, but try to get away from him. Start London, start B. John. Pettics played well last week, but there's so many good quarterbacks. And we're going to sit Michael Pettics Jr. The Falcons are one of the easier teams right now to talk about for fantasy. So when it comes to the Saints, we're starting Olave. Juan Johnson, do you like him or Isaiah likely better? John. John. He's eighth right now. His target share has been pretty damn low. 13.5%, 12.5% last week, 20% which is fine. But they're throwing the ball at ton. I guess that's my one concern of this house of cards could fall down if they just don't throw the ball. If they get a run, game going? Well, or whatever happens. But you're right. They don't have much of a run game. Yeah, so it's Valle and it's Camera and Kendrick Miller. How would you rank those three, Dave? Valle Camera Miller. You just did. Jamie. I think.

1:17:00I would love to see some chat questions about Camera. Camera Hampton. Hampton. Hampton. Valle, Valle, or Hampton? Hampton. Double checking. In full PPR, I've got, they are back to back. I've got Hampton a spot ahead of Valle. I don't know how much I like that. All right. Seeing some Camera questions come in right now. So why don't you ask them? How about this one? Kyle Pitz or just leave the tight end spot? Michael Pentix or Herbert? Pentix. I'll take Herbert. Chris Godwin or Camera? Camera. Stefan Diggs, Devon Valle or Don Tevian Wicks. Great question. I would go Valle. So I right now have Diggs the highest of the three, but it looks like we're going to get Chigel Conquil back. And it makes me wonder if that hurts Diggs a little bit. So I think I might end up going Valle.

1:18:02I need to. DJ Moore, Jawan Johnson, Jalen Wright. I'm saying Jalen Wright. Same. Alvin Camera, Rashad White, who did not practice again today, and I'm thinking is probably not going to play. More Minanga. Camera Minanga. If Swift is out, you're starting Minanga. If Swift is in, you're starting Camera. Yep. And then, I'm going to play Hazel Tutin. Tutin. Tutin. Kendra Miller, Camera, Keaton Mitchell or Tony Pollard, rank them. Camera Pollard, Mitchell Miller. That's how I have it. And Camera Hampton or RJ Hartz, RVB, R.V. Hampton. Jamie, give me real quick your expectations for Camera and Kendra Miller. I think they're going to split probably 60, 40 in favor of Camera. My guess is that we'll see C.J. Donaldson also factoring into some degree, but I hope it's not much. Camera will catch probably three to five passes.

1:19:03Most of that will come on first and second down. Probably looking at 60 totally yards with the chance to score. I believe he's played either one or zero third down snaps Camera has this year. Yeah. That's because Donaldson has that role. Donaldson is basically the quint Allen. Yeah. It's a great way to put it. Yeah. Miami's administered our last game here. Which dolphins would you consider starting Jamie? Malik Washington in three or three leagues and desperation, desperation, desperation, running back situation, Jalen Ride over O'Rally Garden. I would start Malik Willis if you're in a tight spot in the 2QB league. That's about it. That's about it. Malik Washington or Devon Valey. Valey. Valey. Jalen Ride as of yesterday was 51% rostered. We don't like him this week. I get it. But the best guess is that he is going to be the lead running back for the Miami dolphins.

1:20:04So you could do worse. Dave talked about it on beat the waiver wire with Jalen Ride. Right. Which start Jalen Ride or Keaton Mitchell this week? Mitchell if he's healthy. I believe I have Mitchell higher. I want to give you a chance to make it to the Miami confirm. Okay. Tyler Murray is 19th for Jamie 18th for Dave 23rd for Heath. This is a great matchup. However, only, you know, I say that, but only one quarterback's actually done well against the dolphins and it was perty. Cousins in the homes were right around 20 fantasy points. You don't have to throw on them. Only one quarterback is more than 24 pass attempts against the dolphins so far. Aaron Jones or Chewbahubberd? Chewbahubberd I like both. I feel the exact same way. Aaron Jones or Malika neighbors? Jones. Aaron Jones or DJ Moore if Gonzalez plays. Jones. Jones either way either way. Jones either way. I mean, you look at the three running backs that they faced so far and granted, Jones is not in this caliber of player yet or maybe never again.

1:21:07Never again. Gentie huge game over 21 PPR points. McCaffrey huge game over 21 PPR points. Ken Walker huge game over 21 PPR points. They are the worst run defense in fantasy points allowed. Now again, three elite players or borderline elite players, we've backed our gentian. But Jones is coming off such a great game. I hope, I hope, I hope it's not just a Jefferson thing, but finally got involved in the passing and finally involved their running backs in the past game. Maybe that's just a color thing. So weeks one and two, Jones had no catches, Mason had no catches in week one. So five catches last week, let's keep that going. That'd be fun. And I will say for the dolphins though, they faced Gentie McCaffrey and Walker and they're only allowing 3.9 yards per carry to running backs, which is great. But they do give. How much of that is the starter? Do you want to find out? A lot. I mean, McCaffrey was 10 carries for 23 yards. Then Walker was 18 carries for 70 yards.

1:22:07Gentie was 23 carries for 102 yards, which is fine. So they've done a decent job, but still they give up a ton of points and a lot of carries. Yeah, they sold out to stop McCaffrey. Well, it didn't work. Well, it worked to stop him. It didn't work the win the game. Jordan Addison is super interesting. He had nine targets last week where Kyler Murray only through 29 passes. You're going to probably sit him if Jefferson plays, but if Jefferson's out, which is the way you guys are ranking it, 28th for Jamie, 22nd for Dave, 37th for Heath. But man, I have a tough time leaving him out of my line up, Dave, Jordan Addison. We saw that Murray and Addison were practicing together during the off season and I think some of that work paid off last week. And it obviously helps that Justin Jefferson didn't play for much of the game last week. And that's really what matters the most here. And so if Jefferson ends up playing, I think you're going to move Addison down. A lot closer to where Heath has him ranked, which is a low end number three wide receiver. But if there is no Jefferson, then Adam, we're looking at a guy who's got a chance to really

1:23:09rip up this dolphins past defense nicely. So they have yet to allow two receivers to get the old isn't PBR points. So it's just something to keep in mind. Yeah. That's why you'd move Addison way down if Jefferson plays. They haven't been bad because only one receiver has more than five targets against the dolphins. It was where she riced last week and sit TJ Hawkinson, I guess, but yeah. He might end up being the number two target getter. I know. Because there's no Josh Alvar, there's no Justin Jefferson. Right. That might be four targets. I think we're done. Minnesota's DST is number one for everyone. Number one. Aaron Jones or Chase Brown? I have Brown higher. Still Brown, but it wouldn't surprise me if Jones is better. Tyler Murray or Mario? Mario. Marcus Mario. Ty. Chris Bell breakout game. I would be surprised. Fourth quarter. It's 23 nothing Minnesota and the Vikings call off the dogs when they don't blitz then

1:24:10maybe Tyler. Tyler Douglas might play to just keep it on. Tyler may or he has been practicing. Tyler, but I want to genome. Geno. Eugene Smith. Would you trade Jefferson for Kyron Williams? No. I would prefer not to, but again, we're looking at what the running back position is. You're going to have to overpay. That's too much of an overpay. Stop the madness. Muffins or Cinebun? Muffins. Muffins. Tyler or Dack? Come on. Dack. Yeah. All right. Thank you, everybody. Oh, last one. Murray or Cousins? I'd go Murray. I've got Murray higher, but I bet I can make the case for Cousins to be better. I tell you, I will not live in a land that Rob's made of the right to marry their Cousins. All right. We'll talk to you. No, Dave. No. I thought the show ended like that. I think that's lemon of Troy.

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