TJG: RHONY S16 E3!

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3:09Anyways, it's sad because by the time this comes out, someone will have been eliminated, and I'm not okay with that. Do you think it's going to be a male or a female male? I agree. Could be Caramo. No, there's no way. He's got a huge fan base and every single week, they are going to have him on the ground. We'd be rolling around. Oh, she said that. That's like going to be his signature look is rolling. Yes. Okay. I'm being furious. I hate this. Also, she announced the gender of her third. Three boys. She's a boy, mommy. She is a boy, mommy. Wow. Mary's picturing herself with three boys right now. Oh my god. She is scared. The shop is close. Girl, the shop is close. It would be a major mistake. Major. Happy accident. Of course. Of course. Okay. Well, then who's your prediction?

4:10Maybe the banana guy. No, yes. Such a following. You're the only one who hates him. And I sent you a video about his veneers so you can't talk shit anymore. Did I talk shit about the veneers? Yes. You said they bothered you. Oh, I'm sorry that your teeth got knocked out because of sports. I am. That's horrible. It's going to be very competitive. Well, obviously go into great detail tomorrow after we watch. So you're going, Jackson, I'm going, Garemo. I think it'll definitely be a man. I want to take that back. Okay. Talk to you on us. She's got to have a good night. Hopefully she has a good night. Same with Giata. She has to do well too. Oh, you know what? I could see Giata also going home. Yeah, it might be a female tonight. I guess we'll find out. The good thing about the future is it becomes the present. And then it turns into the past. So we'll discuss all of that on our dance with the stars recap tomorrow. Okay. Let's go over the Rony taglines.

5:11Would you like to be Daisy? Or I would love to. In my line of work, I charge extra for two faces. Loved it. I think that is amazing. I'm kind of obsessed with Daisy. She is going to get herself in a lot of trouble, but I find her fascinating. Love her great addition. Okay, Mary, please give us Jessel. It's not my fault. You can't tell an accent from an attitude. Did you see like my accent there? I didn't see it. Sorry. Did you hear it? I didn't hear it. Is there going to be like one more time and I'll pay attention more? It's not my fault. You can't tell my accent from my attitude. I heard it and saw it. That was good. That was good. Okay, I think this one's my favorite, Haley. When they go low, I get high. So, so good. I just, I really regret saying the 54 comment.

6:12And it's really upsetting, you guys. I judged myself the most this week. And you still couldn't even vote for me on that. What the hell? I think it's because people also agreed with you. And so, if they have to judge you, they also have to judge themselves. I see it's hard. Also, Aaron was pretty annoying last week. Agreed. Also, I think Haley looked younger this week. Do you agree with that? I think you're overcompensating. Let's just move on to side. Manhattan gave me the address, but Brooklyn gave me the attitude. So, here's a problem I have with this. We already have another tagline that says attitude. We can't have two attitude taglines. So, when size came up, I was like, I just heard a version of this with Jessel. And that's not size fault because if size had gone first, then when Jessel had popped up, I would have said the same thing. I think that was a mistake to have both of them have attitude in their taglines. Separately, they're good taglines. But when you put them in the same cast, to me, it doesn't go.

7:13I understand. Lacking creativity there. Yeah, speaking of lacking creativity, let's go with Erica's. Erica Jane the second. Friendships come and go. Tacos, they're forever. Does she have a taco business? Also, tacos aren't forever because you eat them. And they're gone. And then they're digested. And then they're out of your body after. So, I don't think that they are also forever. I also don't think it makes sense when we don't understand the taglines after episode one. We have never seen her eat a taco. We've never seen her talk about a taco. Or three episodes Mary. She's making pizza this episode. Not even a taco. It doesn't make sense. We need to make sure when this tagline becomes clear to us. If it is over halfway through the season, that's just insane. Are we going to talk about it? We sure will. Okay. Erin. It's very Kyle Coden. In New York, secrets are currency and honey, I am rich. But you tell everyone secrets. Not a corduroy jicessel.

8:13You mean Google. Sure. But also she tells everyone secrets. She's like, but a good secret keeper. Well, okay. Carol. Carol. I may be a boomer, but I still got a great ass. And the problem with Carol is we have to live in the past. Because if you guys remember on that trip to St. Bart's, Carol went in the water and they said, that's why George Clooney said, Carol's got a great ass. I like that they're bringing back some old meshing with the new. And then I kept on thinking about Carol this week. Because it feels like she had to do this for the money, right? Carol's storyline is being a gents love story and driving a Jeep. That Jeep is a friend of. It is. It's a red Jeep from 1990s, maybe. Yeah. Mine was a 99 Jeep that I had that looked exactly like that. My baby blue one. Oh, I missed it. Like the Jeep Carol is a relic.

9:14I do think she shouldn't have said that she was a boomer. You really got to hope that people remember these things. Luckily for her, I do remember the great ass comment. Yes. It's lived on just like the summers. Yeah. Yeah, but she should be dead now because it's been more than five summers. Or every summer is just terrible. And it could be because we're continually talking about love story. And I've got to be honest, I don't need to hear any more about it. I actually find it quite fascinating. That really did swoop everyone this summer. I didn't even finish it. It just feel like Carol was brought on because of that love story connection. It's pulling someone from the past. And I'm like, what else is going on with Carol though? Everything is just going to be about the fact that her family passed away in a really tragic way. In the 90s and we have to keep talking about it, it feels like tragedy pouring in a way. I know people are not into Carol. I'm finding it interesting. I love her little jab at the beginning. She's like, my gas was $112.

10:15She's trying to obviously hope get Trump there. Oh, I need to connect that. Of course. She's so political. It feels like she needs the show and that she needs an income. But yet she's very laid back and isn't going to get in the drama. But she will call out the bad behavior. Like with Jussel, obviously, she's like, that was so rude. It was insensitive. It was thoughtless. What does she think? It's a cartoon. I'll be curious how she approaches Jussel in the show. Yeah, I guess I'm just saying I think there's more to Carol than love story. And I would like to see that. Carol was the cool girl. She was like, not like other girls. Adam would sit by. And she'd be in the basket. I would love to see Carol date. I would love to see more of her life outside of the Jeep. I just think that there's so much more that Carol could give to us. And I think we're really focused on trying to capitalize off of love story. When it's like, she obviously doesn't want to talk about it. No, she has to.

11:16As she's driving in her Jeep, she points to the top of a taxi cab. Like love story literally can't get away from it. And even her talking about how she was at her friend's apartment that was across the street from Carolins. And she was like, I see these girls taking pictures. She's like, and I snap and then I'm like, what am I doing? It just feels like not fair in a way that she's continually having to chat about this. It is pretty wild. I find it fascinating. I'd also like to hear her talk about the Margarita lady. Do you think Bethany like had her sign an NDA or something? No. I mean, Jason definitely has something type of gag order. Carol doesn't seem like the person that would sign an NDA. She'd be like, do you literally not know who my family is? I'm not doing that shit. I think she just doesn't want to talk about it. Carol was talking about Carolyn because Daisy asked, oh, do you think she would like hang out with us and like like us? And she's like, no, she'd find you guys all pretty annoying. And Daisy's like, me included. Yeah, basically. But she said, Carolyn was more one-on-one. Carol is one-on-one as well. She was attached to Heather.

12:17She was attached to Bethany. She moved on to Tinsley. Carol loves to be the sidekick of. You're totally right. So is she being Daisy's sidekick here? Who's she going to be the sidekick of? I think she's trying to figure that out. And I feel like it almost might be Erin. Okay. Well, yeah, one we see that Epstein thing. Oh, yeah. I just think the way that she's been talking about Erin and the press is like, she's so surprised that people think Erin is the villain. And it's like, I guess maybe you haven't seen it episode yet? Maybe. Maybe. Wait, let's talk about Daisy. She's like, yeah, I mean, God, what was just so doing? She was totally making me feel bad about flirting with the tutor and telling that story. I'm just like in a moomoo dress. The story I found it flattering that this person in their 20s was giving me attention because sometimes things get really bad with Eugene. Sometimes I'm super attracted to him. And sometimes I don't want to even look at him. And when we get to that point, he looks on Craig Listen. I look on Raya. And I was like, what?

13:19What? Not only is it not Bumble or a free dating app, she's literally paying for Raya. It's not cheap. You have to pay for Raya? Yes. Oh, how much is it? See, the thing is, I couldn't tell you because I'm not an accountant and I'm bad with money. But it's definitely something that I get charged for. Like $9.99 a month? $2.99. I was grandfathered in a long time ago. And then when I was in a relationship and I deleted it when I went back on Raya, I feel like I got the same price, but I can't remember what it was. But I feel like it's like $20 a month now for people. It is. It is. However, we don't know how long Daisy's been on it. She could be on it for the entire relationship. Didn't Martha get her on? She was recommended by Martha Stewart. Carol's like, you have to tell your husband about the tutor. She's like, oh, yeah. Daisy looks really pretty in this scene. I was like, what cut gene is that?

14:20Because she was wearing it look like ankle boots, but they were tucked in enough to her gene that it was maybe a tighter boot cut. And then she's wearing a red sweater with a green jacket, which is giving me Christmas vibes. But also she just looks so cute. And didn't have a ton of makeup on. Really natural. Her hair was kind of wavy and everywhere. This is a great look and scene for Daisy. She is effortlessly beautiful. I think she is so gorgeous. She has like a 90s look in some way to me. Like a Carol and Bassette summer. Me. She also reminds me. And I don't know why. And I don't even know if this is a good equivalent. But Jessica Simpson's assistant, who I also think was named Daisy that is married to the actor in scrubs. Her name is Casey Cobb. And his name is Donald Faeson. Daisy Casey Singh. It's very similar. Do you think they kind of look alike? No. No. Okay, cool. What is going to happen with Eugene and Daisy?

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23:30Jizzle lost me because she was the one that pointed out the popcorn ceilings. Daisy wasn't the person that pointed it out. And I just can't imagine going into someone's home and critiquing it. That's what you do behind people's back, okay? You call Erica when you leave and say, could you believe that apartment? I also came to understand this week that Daisy, they don't have a lot of money. I think she's a hustler. I think Eugene is hustling as well. I think they stayed in this apartment way longer than they should have. But I understand why they don't want to leave because they're probably paying like less than $2,000 a month for a more than two bedroom place. And they're like, we can live an amazing lifestyle. And I'm sorry, people that live in cities, you're not in your apartment that much. That's why you live in a city you're out and about. You were in the parks or taking the subway or restaurants, you're going to friends houses like the city is your backyard. So I understand why she's doing this. I think they have a lot of money, Mary. I think

24:33they don't put it into housing because they don't care because of those reasons you said. But she's marked the Stewart's personal makeup. But they get paid a shit ton. Okay, when I was doing a hair and doing a private client, you were getting paid a lot. You were traveling a lot. Eugene has private clients. I feel like Daisy was trying to insinuate. Maybe he was cheating. He comes home and showers right away. And then he's emailing on his phone. I felt like she was trying to insinuate like who are these private clients till 9 p.m. as Jizzle said in a confessional. But there are people though that are like, Hey, I'm working all day. Can you come cut my hair at 9 p.m. I had clients that I would have to do later at night because they couldn't come into the salon and they'd want me to come over to their place. And who am I? And they've been doing hair and makeup way longer. I think she's just trying to set up. If something were to come out, I just want you to see him lonely. Well, someone in our DMs last week. I pointed out Daisy's kind of like the lush of the group. And then, you know, how Eugene Collins, like, did you turn off the lights? Did you shut the

25:33door? And they were connecting those two things because she drinks that she forgets to do things. Which I thought was like kind of interesting. I don't know. Okay. But also, Courtney, we know Martha is a cheap person and she's a cheater. She went to jail for it for God's sakes. I don't think Daisy is making that much money. Okay. Yeah. I definitely do. I think that they stay at a rent control department because property in New York is super expensive. Look at Erica James, $3 million condo that they have in New York. Their house is beautiful. It's $3 million. I think a lot of people in New York do not buy because if you have something good, keep it forever. Popcorn ceilings. Okay, fine. Whatever. But I'm like, Jessal, you're renting. I know. This tough one is coming from another renter also. Daisy's comment, Jessal, our ren is what you pay Dr. Belkin to laser your beard off once a month. I was like, oh my God. Like such a good confessional moment. I loved it. I would

26:38love to know where Eugene works. I'm sure I could Google that really easily. Is it his own salon? So does he make money there and his payment of rent goes into paying the salon? There's so many different avenues. And I think New York is just such a different place that you're so right. People don't hang out in their houses. It's totally a different vibe. And so it's not crazy to me that they would say in a rent control department for 21 years. Wait, I'm looking him up. Eugene trained with the Vidal Sassoon. Sassoon. Oh, Eden. In LA, now he can be found at the Oscar Blandy salon at the Plaza Hotel. That's a very, very good salon while you're there. Why don't you look up the plaza and see what a haircut goes for. Eugene charges $330 for a haircut. How did you find that out? I googled it. Oh, I went to go book an appointment. So he is probably a senior stylist there. Probably has two or three assistants. They're probably

27:40doing the blow dry. He comes in for the cut. They're doing the wash. They're doing it all. They're making good money there. I don't think that they are onker Jane status. But I think that they're doing well enough that they're like, why would we go buy something when we have less than $2,000 to pay in rent? And we can do all these things. We're not even home half the time. To be honest, the apartment does not bother me. I understand how people stay in those situations for a really long time because of the Frank control. I'm obsessed with Daisy personally. I think her and Eugene are together in real time. Will they make it to season two? We don't know. I hope so. So then here, they also bring up Aaron. And I thought that Daisy was going to be team Aaron, but she seems to be just team Daisy. Yeah, a little bit of a flip flop maybe. I just think she's just not choosing a team because Jocelyn's talking about after the brunch, like what was going on? There's a lot of inside jokes. It was a terrible segue from Jocelyn. She's like, oh, we just have an inside joke speaking of inside jokes. Well, she has been rehearsing lines. She is rehearsing and some land and

28:43some do not because when she rehearses the line and then is pushed back on it, she can't give much further than that. She said, no, no, the script is there. That's not how it went when I did it from the mirror this morning. When Povit played you earlier, he didn't go that direction. So Jocelyn is like, Aaron is like Mariah Carey obsessed, okay? She cannot stop talking about me. Which is true. Well, I also feel like Aaron, for some reason, the show has been centered around her. I think they thought she was going to be the main Apple girl. And that's not how it's happened. But I think Aaron's like, how do people like Jessel? I think she is genuinely confused. She's like, she is so rude to people unless she thinks she can get something out of you. She treated my doctor like shit until she found out Martha Stewart used him. How do people like her? How do the fans like her? It's very meta. I wish they could also say, I can't believe the bravo audience likes you

29:46because I know the real you. We need to secret lives of Mormon wives this where we break the fourth wall and you can just be like, you should not be a fan favorite. I don't get it. I don't get it. I didn't love Jessel bringing up the Google stuff about all the payment. Don't point the finger that way because something will be dug up about you at some point. And as soon as you start digging the hole yourself, you're going to keep digging. And I don't know that it's worth it. Not that I think Jessel has anything to hide, but as soon as you make an enemy, like a real enemy of somebody, they're going to go and do whatever they want. We've had unsubstantiated rumors on these shows for years. Yeah. But then when they mentioned the house, I did think, was it an insurance thing? When she said that out loud, I'm like, oh my god, you're going to get in so much trouble. This is bad. And absolutely, there's no way that damage is horrible, horrible. I mean, keep

30:52sicks that they'll never get back. It's also, I think, even harder because perhaps you had a fire or something, everything is just gone. But I think it's even stranger because they can see the pieces, but they can't keep it. It's just awful situation. Not hurricane Katrina status. But yeah, I think if they were going to do something for insurance, they might have moved some boxes. Definitely. They did not. This is not a Wendy Ocepho situation here. It did cross my mind, though. And then they said it and I said, oh, god, thank god, I'm not the only one thinking bad things over here. Oh, geez. Okay, let's rewind back to Jessel and Haley at Pickleball. Haley downplaying her skills of being a D1 tennis player really made me laugh. Do you have any skills in tennis or like, where's your pickleball? I played some tennis and then she starts going down the line of how good at tennis she is. I'm like, Haley, it's good to know she's been having doobies for a majority of her life. Right. She has a mug shot. She got taken off the squad

31:59and that was that. She had those eyebrows that we all had. The sperm brows were so popular. And the fact that they're coming back again, I'm like, please girls, don't do it. Don't pluck them away. My friend has because there's a photo in my parents house of my senior pictures from high school. Of course. And it is a full sperm brow. I'm talking like the beginning is thick like how my current eyebrows are. And then it is just a skinny, skinny, skinny, like my friend literally has that. She actually made it for one year for my birthday. She put that photo on cupcakes for everybody to have, but she has that saved in her phone. Also, when we got this flashback because I too had the sperm brow. I was like, right, maybe I could post my sperm brow. I know. And I would like me again. I'm so worried, Courtney. Listen, Mary, it's okay. I think she takes it on the chin.

32:59We're never going to get to interview her. She is like a pierr-arm-aven. She knows what she's doing because of what she's gone through. And I really have empathy for her. And this John Gosling situation essentially changed her entire life. And this is why she ended up with her husband Ruben who she's known forever. She wanted that safety net. She goes deeper into the John situation where she talks about her dad did Kate's tummy tuck, then helped recover Kate. They became good family friends. Then they're going through the divorce. John can't stay at hotel. She ends up staying with her. Then they're on a yacht together because also Haley is rich. She comes from a lot of money. I love that. The popper ought to get these photos and she becomes the cheater, the adulterer, the bad guy. And it really changed the trajectory of her life. And it's sad. And I actually

34:00believe her story. Do you believe the story? 100%. That was the time of Perez Hilton. You literally would go by like the national inquirer. You had all the weekly tab with we had like magazines. I didn't realize who she was until somebody said that. I'm like, oh, that's right. And realizing how young she was to she's like, yeah, they would just go up to people at bars at IU and get 100 bucks to tell a story about me. It was salacious. She's 22 years old. It's really crazy at the end of the day. They're good friends. They posted a photo of like John his current wife and Haley. Like it's all water under the bridge. They're friends. No big deal. But it truly was insanity in a way because John and Kate plus eight would we'd never seen anything like that before. I think after that, then it was like, octo mom and all of these different family dynamics. And knowing all that is really sad. And I can totally see why she would fall with Rubin who she felt like provided her a sense of safety when all she was looking for was like, away out. I would love to meet Rubin. I hope that we at one point can meet him because I don't think we will. We are not

35:05going to meet him. I'd love to hear more about the PR background. Maybe her and hub house. I mean, get hub house on Rooney. If it doesn't happen, there's the PR mavens there. When she said I became a publicist because when I didn't have anybody, I wanted somebody. I want to be able to write the blueprint, the template for if this happens for other people. And I really do like Haley. Do you also know she's the person that's trolled Claudia Oshry from the toast? Have you ever seen those DMs? Oh, yes. Do you know what they're talking about? Yes. People were commenting on our Instagram has Claudia seen this. Yes, from the toast. And I do remember her. She kind of fat-chained her, right? In the DM. Something like that. Yeah. So she's got layers. No, I think she is so fascinating. I don't think we're ever going to see Rubin. And I actually wonder if this Pietta tear is just for filming. And she only has it for literally three months. But it is such a crazy story because when this did came out, the John Gosling story,

36:09the early 2000s were so wild, the paparazzi's were chasing people. Britney Spears. All over Britney Spears. Paris, Hilton, Nicole, Richie. This is pre-instagram where you could put up your own narratives. And even Duremberg Kate was on Dancing with the Stars. And that was when she started becoming the villain. I think now Kate is the villain and a lot of people's eyes and special forces is coming out, which is going to have the sun that she excommunicated from the family. And I am curious to hear his story. I'm going to watch special forces via TikTok this season. Of course, of course you will. Who was her partner? Her partner was Tony Dove, Olaunny, a season 10 of Dancing with the Stars. But in this photo, he kind of looks like Yon. Oh, okay. Yon and Kate. Special forces isn't going to give you the vibe that you want because when we had Cody Brown and you had the story of they're going to bring you in to break you, she's not going to get broken. He didn't get broken. So should we take one more break and come back?

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40:38middle name is literally twist manipulator. And I'm like, so we don't know the meaning of literally. And as someone who uses literally figuratively all the time, I was like, well, I'd love to see the birth certificate on that one because I don't think it's true. Also, we are fighting about this guy, Dr. Belkin, who Jizzle goes to see him again and he does a flashback. And I feel like it didn't help Jizzle's case. He literally said, yeah, like you just weren't really interested in talking to me. I wasn't offended by it or anything. And it's like, that's exactly Aaron's point. So don't bring it up again. We see, I thought the opposite. Oh, I thought that he was like, yeah, we met, but it wasn't anything. And then you became my client. I didn't say you were a cloud chaser. Aaron is an exaggerator. She'll take a little thing like where he said, yeah, she wasn't interested in talking to me. And I'm also like, wait a talk shit on your client, buddy. Now that she goes to you, I feel like he was trying to make up for it. Do I think he said, oh, she's a cloud chaser? I don't know. He could probably be a little gossipy. But I think that Aaron took like where he was like, yeah, she just didn't want to talk to me and Aaron's like, see, I told you she's a cloud

41:41chaser and he laughed about it. The conversation happened where she's, he's my real friend. And he's just your dermatologist. I just will never forget when Aaron had that Val Renewal and she invited like a million people and it was sponsored. And it's like, yeah, because she hangs out with she's hot friends and she was too Mary, okay? Stop it. I can't believe this is what we're fighting about because I also would love Jussel just to say, you know what I am trying to social climb because if she said that, what could Aaron say at that point? But I think Jussel in her mind, I don't think she thinks she does, but she does. Right. Well, when she's definitely trying to stir the part, she's like, I mean, have you Googled yourself recently? I'm like, oh my god, but that moment made Jussel look bad. What are you doing? One me and Ponzi scheme. She starts Googling in the interview. She's like, well, let me just like Google our names and see what pops up. Aaron Lee she, oh no, it starts going all the bad things. And then she's like, Jussel,

42:42tank, oh, here's my vogue one. The the bath oil I can't live without. I'm like, Jussel, of course you're going to look up good things about yourself. But then it's just like so so she's like, you're a bootleg Houdini. And Aaron's like, well, Houdini's a good magician. That's why I didn't call you Houdini. I called you bootleg. Like you think you're Zendaya? You're blossom. I'm like, those are two totally separate entities. What? My embalic from blossom in the 90s and six and Joey Lord. Whoa, I rewound that three times because I was like, the blossom art. Wait, we're talking about that girl. Blossom. What are you talking about? She host Jeopardy now. Okay. Also, Jussel, you're sitting there in stirrups by the way. Those leggings stirrups that are awful. I'm sorry. Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes. Oh, I like them. I like Jussel's outfit. What do you think about her new confessional look? It's a black shirt. It's a statement chest piece. I found it distracting.

43:45I like Aaron's new confessional look. I think that looks really nice. It's like a black tube top. And then she has like a wrap around gold necklace and her hair pulled back. That to me was the first time I've actually thought she looked exactly like Jennifer Aniston. Aaron is the most beautiful person I've ever seen in person. I'm not kidding. At that brawl book on two years ago, I was like, I remember texting me about her. She was stunning. She had a glow about her just gorgeous. Would you say she's boring because she's been called a cut. She's been called a bitch. She's been called a piece of shit. She's been called a bootleg Houdini and a one-man Ponzi scheme. But she's never been called boring. Baby, you're under a third season of people calling you boring. I just don't think she knows who she is in the show. I think she's a little bit confused. And like I said, she went to the school of Lindsay Heatherbird. She did not graduate. And that's what I still see. And I think she needs to like pick her lane. Are you the villain? Are you the gossip?

44:51Are you both? I think she's confused. Then when Jussle leaves, because she's like, I've got to get out of here. This is crazy. It's 8 30 AM. And Aaron goes, I'll pay for her water. I go with free. Water is free. Come on. She didn't even get a tea bag for 80 cents. And you're not paying for it for your Arnold Palmer. I was like, this is why I can't get on this side of Aaron. And then she gets like that. And it's like, God, you could close things so well. And yet you can't. I think you're right about what she is. But nobody wants to be the villain on these shows. Of course. I think Aaron can't figure out why she is the villain because she's like, I'm not boring. I'm so cool because my husband's cool. Right. I love Abe, by the way. But okay, who do you think is going to try to buddy up more with Erica? Jessle or Aaron? Because that feels like the person to be friends with. Well, Jussle is already friends with Erica. I actually bum for Erica of episode one because remember, I was like, is she just going to be this friend of Jussle? And now we've learned so much more. We still don't know about the tacos. Fingers crossed. We'll get that one soon.

45:55Getting to know her more this week. I was like, oh, I really like her. I think her husband is the one definitely who wanted to be on the show for belt. Yes. But I also think he loves to have a little bit of like the fame of who he is. I think they're cute. Honey, they are rich. They did a pre-party in South Africa before they're wedding in Cairo. Like, oh, okay. Do you like, I grew up. Well, Fee, my father was a doctor, but we were weak. Well, this is a whole new level. I would love to know what is the prenup situation? When did she move in with him? Does she get in the allowance every month? I want to go into the details because this man is a billionaire. We have never had a billionaire on housewives. We have people living in Gatsidas half the time. Oh, God, Gina can't even win on Rony over here. We've got popcorn ceilings in this show. I think she has a ton of money on her own. I love how they met too. She was like, he was taking

46:56my class for three years. It took him three years to get her to go on a date with him. I think that's really cute. They just look like they're really fun. She's young. She's only 35. And they have to go to the surrogacy route. She's talking about why she can't carry her own babies. And it sounds like they might have found a match. I love when they're like trying to explain how it's like a tender swipe. She's fine. That's the only way you're going to relate to it. Then absolutely, yes. They seem like they have good banter together. And I like when she was like, he will literally do a day trip so that he can just come home and be with me. This sounds like a relationship of love who happens to have money. They seem very in love. And I'm rooting for them. Maybe they have a baby on the way in real time. We don't know. I will say, though, and she's talking about her apartment. And they flash to these gorgeous Florida ceiling windows and they have this white couch. And I'm like, there is no way that is a sweats lay down couch. You know what I mean? Oh, it's a couch that you can't lay down on. I mean, that's exactly what I said. But I mean, maybe you host in that room

48:01and people can sit on there, but that's not the TV couch. That's not like, I'm going to have my pizza. I'm prepping with this chef behind us when we make something inedible. That is not eating couch when you're like, oh, let's turn on Roni. That's like the parlor. Yes. Yeah, the front room. Yeah, exactly. I want more of them together. I know it's unfortunate we didn't get this in the first episode. They have a private island called Mosquito Island where celebrities stay and presidents when their terms are over. I'm like, name them. Nymam. Obama, right? I was getting Obama vibes. Yeah. And Michelle watches. How's that? She does. She does. I'm sure Martha's stayed there before. I bet Daisy's been there. Oh, I know. It's so interesting with Daisy because she's been a part of stars and has seen it from a different angle, but now she's becoming the star. And she has to call Martha because she is prepping for satyr. She's invited all the women over to

49:03her parents' house for Passover. And she has to call Martha. Can I use cornstarch instead of potato starch? Guys, didn't even know potato starch was a thing, mean either. And obviously she does any excuse to call Martha because I think Martha wants to be a part of the show. And I predict Martha and Daisy will come on watch what happens live together. I love this idea. I would love to see that together in Snoop Dogg, can Barton. Also, I would like to see Haley's mom Barton. I have to get this woman out of the FaceTime. I want in-scene in person. She clearly loves the limelight. Oh, she wants to be a star. And she wants Haley to be a star, I think too. Mom and daughter tap duo putting on a show at the senior center. The queer bird watching through? Dying. Dying. Why are birds queer? Oh, you need for queer people. She's like, Haley, you weren't a nigma wrapped in a riddle and cash. It loved her. We know.

50:04The conversation is also interesting with her mom though where she was like, I have to be the mom. I have to be concerned about her. Her mom calls her literally while she's in a confessional and just starts rambling. And Haley, multiple times, is like, so I have to go and she just keeps going. She's like, okay, so I'm gonna go. And then the mom is surprised by the fifth time she actually connects it and is like, oh, okay, call me later. Love you. Bye. I can't wait to see her in person, not in the phone. But I also want Haley to take us queer bird watching. I know. Okay, let's go into Passover. Well, let's mention the Jeep again. We've got a cone that we carry in the trunk because that's a cop thing. And I'm like, Carol, I feel like you gave your secret away now. I've never heard of this. Have you heard of this? No, this is fake. She made it up. It's just a strange thing. It was a misfer me. Yeah. So Daisy is hosting our parents house deep in Brooklyn. Thank God, all the women could get there. Oh, so worried. We'll get in the production

51:06car or Carol's trunk. I can get a ride. I wish we would have seen, because Jessel ends up being two hours late. I wish we would have seen her getting ready because I guarantee there was zero urgency the whole time in the car. I don't even want to go. I can't believe I have to go to this. I think they should have shown that side of it. The concept of time is just like not with Jessel. But I was kind of annoyed by the women here because I thought that they were being pretty rude for the fact that Daisy is hosting this. I've never been to a Passover dinner, but it seems like there's a lot of tradition that goes on. You're doing a lot of readings. And then they're giving Aaron shit for Daisy's event because Aaron's not doing a good enough hosting job and then they're interrupting her. It's like, just shot up and listen. It was really, really rude. I agree with you. Once we did a satir at my old school and it was very powerful. And then that night, I ran into

52:07three different people that I've hooked up with. When's it? Do you think those things are interconnected? Something happened. It's something. I don't know. It's like strange. Definitely a memory for you. So Aaron is passing out the different plagues that occurred and people are getting really offended by what she's handing them as if there's like a good one to get. Why would you give me flies? It's like, just go with it. You guys are trying to have a moment. She's trying to tell the story to shut up. And then Jessel interrupting and me like, so is their food. She were two hours late. What the hell? Let him tell the story. You guys are interrupting something that's supposed to be meaningful. Daisy is inviting you all into her parents' home, which is I think different than inviting him into her own home. And I was just getting so mad at this whole thing. You are all so rude, so rude. And then Aaron's like, okay, here's my moment to come at Haley. Haley, who has to wear a jacket because she didn't know how she or her shirt was because apparently mirrors don't

53:10show nip. And she brings out a thing of jam and sets it in front of her with a card that Haley has now been subscribed to jam of the month club. And Haley's like, okay, she's like, because I'm boring, right? And then she has to deliver her rehearsal line. Go ahead and say it. Listen, Haley, I'd rather be boring than break up a marriage of a man that has eight children. I don't add, give, I just added. So what do you have to say, Haley? Haley looks flabbergasted, but she's already given Aaron a C-minus for this. I'm like, a C-minus. You guys, this is Daisy's thing. The only one I feel like was being respectful was Carol and Erica Jane. Great. I like that we're getting to TBC, a TBC continued. You are happy about a TBC. I am. Okay, I'm excited to see how Haley's going to come back because I think she's calm, cool and collective. She's the PR maven. And like we said, Aaron hasn't even graduated from the school of Lindsay Hubbard. So I think Haley's easily going to be able to make Aaron

54:15feel bad in this moment. And it's so obvious that Aaron is trying to have a moment and it's not going to work. Do you think she should have approached it differently? I feel like when they sat down if she wanted to have the moment, she should have done it then. After the fact, it's like, okay, she should have just said, hey, and then once we do all the rituals and do the story, I want to make sure that you have jam to eat. So here, because I know I'm boring like jam, but I'm telling you this is a good one. And then just move on from it. It felt like she didn't know how to do a slam. That would have been better, Courtney. It was like, okay, and then you wanted to do the line. You're going to throw something in her face from 20 years ago. Also, it's not going to connect because we as viewers watch the pickleball scene in the beginning and we believe Haley's story there. At least I know how I do. So Aaron just accept the villain role at this point because you're going down the path. Right. Also, they keep setting the scene that there's going to be drama between Daisy and Sy because last week, Sy brings up the tutor for everyone, but this week,

55:18Daisy gets back the dick. Oh, you don't even come to my house with a hostess gift. Oh, you're right. To the foreshadowing. So that friendship is going to be over soon. Which that makes me sad because they weren't just scores together. They've known each other a long time. Not even strippers. I will say too. I didn't like the line when Haley got Hale because short for Hale. And she said, I was going to give you a license. She goes, well, come over to your house and give it to your kids. Like, wait, what? Guys, we got a rehearse better. No, I think that one was on the fly. I know. That's it. We need to rehearse better. Right. Right. That wasn't yes, and and I was like, no, that's a no but you guys. I have bias for Haley now. We know. You're really overcompensating now. She can do no wrong. But you've never not liked Haley. I know. We've never said we don't like Haley. I think Haley's been a great addition. A wonderful housewife. Erica, we said in the first episode, two out of three, I'm bad. I'm three for three here because

56:18I want rich completely. And I will say I liked this episode better than the second episode. One in three have been hits for me. Okay. I liked them all. They've been doing a good job so far. I will say though, it's just we got to stop trying to create moments and just let them happen naturally. Yes. The newbies for me. I guess. Yeah. I love the new girls. Love. Yeah. Exactly. And Carol's cheap. Well, beep beep. We got to go. And oldie put a goodie. All right, Kourtney. I'll see you tomorrow for Dancing with the Stars. Vote Sierra. Bye. Bye. If you're looking for something predictable and low friction over the long term, public markets may be a suitable option. But the moment you want different investment

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