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ready for bold predictions. But then I quickly learned that Jay and Luke are going to be gone next week. And then Luke, by miracle, suddenly could be here. All I'm going to be today, but then I could. God dang. Now he's here. So we're doing bold predictions. We will do bold predictions with McKellen Alex next week as well. So you can hear Alex scoff at some of my thoughts. Hey, good luck. McKellen Alex coming up with some good bold predictions after we get a hand of them. A whole of them. Yep, we're taking. We're taking all. Yep. Yep. That's good. Wait till you hear these. All right. So we are doing the spice scale for for those that are listening to bold predictions for the first time. Pocket chip is the most heat. Pocket chip. If this is the, if it's truly a bold prediction, you get a pocket chip. You get pocket chip.
Then don't talk like that. And then the second is the habanero. Habanero. And then the habanero. Habanero. Habanero. What's after habanero? Habanero. Hello, Vince, if you're going after her before. Hello, Peanio. We're getting less spicy. Habanero. And hello, Peanio. Dude, it's too early. I'm giving a pronunciation guide for him. His lesson. Habanero. Habanero. The other day. The other day. And then there's the peach. The other day in church, I was trying to, I was trying to enunciate the word pronunciation guide. And I said the wrong word four straight times. Wow. I'm like, oh, I'm going to go ahead. I just literally sat down. I was like, all right, I'm done for the day, I think. No bell pepper? Oh, yeah, bell pepper. The bell pepper. The peach. Then the peach. The peach.
We just need to see the peach. The peach is, you should feel insulted. Bell pepper. Bell pepper. And the peach is. The peach. Whoa. Peach is for me. Peach. The peach. Habanero. Okay. All right. Yeah, hell with it. Oh, yeah. Habanero. Uh, obviously we're starting Thunder bowls first. Yeah, of course. Of course. Per tradition. Per tradition. Um, okay. A dimar of finishes season in top eight of minutes played on this one. Let's start it off. Hold on, hold on. Let's get it going. Okay. So let's, let's contextualize this a bit. So last year, you're looking at, I mean, I heart, AJ. Caruso chat. Well, first of all, there's five starters. So we're already starting though. If we're going total minutes last year, that would have been J will. Mm hmm. Okay. I heart was nine. That would have been J will with J. Dub injured all year.
Yeah, with that injured. Yeah. Yeah. Hang. That is bold. I would, that is, that's bold. That's straight. So that's straight up a pocket. That's a pocket. So when I was, when I was thinking about how, how would that even happen, someone does get traded in my scenario. Ooh, I heart. And that someone is I heart. Ooh, that's also bold. Where's he going? You just knocked out two pocket. What's this for? I don't know, man. I was just, I was just trying to come up with some kind of story like how, how could he end up in the top eight? Well, the only way is like someone's very injured. Mm hmm. Or someone gets traded. I didn't want to go to injury route. So I went to trade it. So I said, wow, I have one about Mara as well. Okay. Minutes per game. Because I have 17 minutes per game. Wow. He's not making top eight like that. So minutes per game last year, if he was playing 17 minutes, he'd be just between, he'd be around what McCain was playing.
Caruso. Mm hmm. A little bit less than J will. But that would, I mean, that'd be bar. To actually like think that through like number one, you're right. There has been injury or some player that doesn't play. But you would also, in my mind, you just see like two, three minutes drop from chat, two, three minutes drop from I heart. And then you kind of make it up otherwise. I just think what I've seen in these first two games from Mara, I'm like, he has blown away every expectation I had for him. Like it, it's been, I don't know, I just feel like it's just been special in a way that you can't not play him. Like I think he has to be on the court in times and times. And the lineups you can play out there with, with, I mean, whatever combination you want, like I send a text out to the group, but that's starting a line up they rolled out on, on Wednesday. Was it Wednesday? Thursday? Wednesday. And that is just, that's fun. Yeah. Alex is talking about doing that, but all passing line up. Mm hmm. You know, I don't, I can't remember exactly who was on that one, but it's just one of
those things where I think that he brings a set of skills, I think that we'll just make this team move in a way that it just, I mean, I heard it's really good at this too, but Mara's just vertical. I mean, he's just so at the rim. It's just giant. Have we seen, have we seen a summer league to preseason game like comparison that is, side by side that this, that is this like, like this, yeah, like zero to hero, like this is, this is a huge, yeah, we huge. Trayong would straight up like did we make a huge mistake and something like, like maybe even more stark than this. That's the one that like sticks out of my head to start, but I'm sure that there are other ones. Like that's why you always say like, just take summer league with the grain of salt, like don't don't over react to like good players and don't over react to guys that stink because you just don't know. Yeah.
It's just not, it's not a good, it's not a good comparison at all of what they're going to be like. No, it's not a good indication because I remember in the 21, in 2021, when I watched the Rockets play in summer league, it was like, oh my gosh, they just destroyed the draft. Jalen Green looks like a star. You know, like you just, when you react to summer league like that, you just, it's typically not a good indicator of what's going to happen. Yeah. So guys that it is a good indicator for Jada being one of them. Yeah, it's not, and it's not, it's not like a hard to speak into a microphone. Which one about summer league? You steamed up your mind. Right? I think the only way to summer league is, I think the only way summer league is an indicator in that way has always been to me like number one, obviously the rookies that just stand out for real reasons. Cooper fly or those kind of guys like the guys you already assumed really, but really it's always the one I can tell I think is this is real is the guy who shows up the set in between this rookie and sophomore year.
Yeah. And immediately is like he shouldn't be here. This is right. And they're shut down after. No, shouldn't be here. And that was dub, right? Dub like one game and everything. Okay. Now he's a real NBA player. AJ Mitchell was shut down early. Yeah. That one was surprising though. That was kind of assumed because dub was good as a rookie too. Yeah. AJ was good, but he was just so injured. It was hard to know like. Yeah, he got hurt half with his season. And then now he's sold Rod boy. Yeah, he's big. Now he's a broad shoulders. They call him Rod Rod boy. He's Rod boy now. He's, he has come into the media day. He started telling everyone call me Rod boy. I'm changing my nickname this year. It's a Rod boy. Wow. What? Rod. Excuse me. They highly probably don't be so good, dude. I would love that. That's not good. But yes, it would be concerning. Yeah, it would be absolutely highly concerning. Yeah, it's like they're gonna have to wave this guy. You can't wave Rod boy. It's happening right now.
Okay. I'll go ahead and do my marble fiction. Did we do it? Oh, we got a rate. Do we rate? Do we rate? 17 minutes for game. 17 minutes for game. I like, but like I say that in like real like real minutes. Yeah. Like not, not he plays three games and play 17 minutes again. I'm talking. He plays. I would say a total of 60 to 65 games. You're 17 minutes again. This feels like a realistic prediction. This feels like a solid prediction. It feels like a jalapeno with the seeds left in. Yeah. So a little spicy. jalapeno. No. How about how about how about Mau? How about me? jalapeno. I feel like this is a sea. jalapeno. It's a sea. It's definitely a city. That's how it's and that's where the heat. That's where the heat lives. Can you help me? Can you help me understand where the heat lies? It's in the seeds. I know. 17. It would be a lot. It doesn't sound like a lot. J will play 19.6 last year.
Kruza 18.2. McCain was 18 minutes. And then it's nobody like nobody after that. Okay. So Joe was 21. Wigs was 21. I mean, it just. I think the reason it's probably not as spicy. Is because they do have less guys. That like they're we talked about in the offseason like their depth did suffer by losing Joe. Wigs and Dork. I mean, I think some of that is being made up. I think starts us play themself into real minutes. Yeah. I don't know what that would be. You have Jair McCain for full season. Yeah. I think Jair McCain's minutes are going to go. The reason that they're spice though is because there's less of a path to that being realistic. Because you have chat, I heart. J will. J will that all play the same. And maybe even Sorber. If he is a real player and Sorber will eventually get on the court. Tomah. That's what they keep saying. They do keep saying. I feel it's not quite the same, but I do feel a little J are E about him. Sorber. Why Joe Roganick?
Because if you remember. So so Jerry is a Joe Rogan experience. Yeah, that's exactly my reflection. Yeah. Like that. So that was a feel that if I were to Ride the U very, they didn't we no looking down. saw things. Maybe our expectations were quite a bit lower. Yeah, we were in the somebody has to score the points. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Which is makes it really hard to do. Remember, Teo Malodon. I do. We thought he, I mean, there were multiple podcasts where like, well, we for sure have our backup point cards. Yeah, we're locked. Don't worry about it. Move on. Solid. Yeah. That's bad. We're foolish fools. All right. What's your Mara
one? All this Mara play was a mirage and we'll end up calling it the Mara's and the bill of the kind his second option. Oh, my Lord. Damn. It's an angry one. As if Mara did something to you. And number two, what's your problem? Why are you ziggin when we're all ziggin? Just because right now, you see, it's a very. You be everybody's sweat blanket. Just everybody feel the. Wow. It's very invoked to say that Mara's going to like do all these crazy things. But if it does the other crazy thing. Yeah. That's true. All right. It's a good take. How a narrow have a near room. I'll give you a have a narrow. I mean, I feel like it's pocket chick though. Pocket chick. A pocket chick. Why? Why? I didn't mean to. Why? Why do you do that? And they like the declining this his second year. Wow.
And it's it's pocket. It's like the pocket factory. Yeah. It's that part really set it and set it over the a. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a dog. Well, just you'd have to be he'd have to be like spending the entire year personally insulting the front office like just being a huge problem off the court to absolutely. He would have. Yeah. He would have to be a huge off the court. Yeah. In order for this to happen. I don't believe this at all. I was just I was I knew that there would be some like really good Mara ones. And I kept thinking of the Mara's. It's good. I like Mara's which is only a good nickname if he's bad. What would you say about a take that he makes? What are there three all rookie teams? Or two? What do you think about a like how would you rate a take on him making an all rookie? If he if he plays 17 minutes of game, he'll make it. Yeah. Because he'll he'll score because the thing that has like helped him score so much is that in 17 feet tall being 17 feet tall and having awesome passing teammates. Yeah.
So this but dude, I don't know. So you're right. But sometimes it also shortens because I think his footwork is elite. It's a part of it. And it's also the fact that he catches everything. Yeah. Because I mean, we've seen so many centers. Yeah. Such a bucka that just could not catch the ball. I don't know. That could not catch the ball. I mean, how many times did I throw the ball the perk in the post? Oh my god. That's such a bad example. I'm the good old man. And then he'd get so bad. It's also they're starting so I know. So long. Do you think that we show our age when we talk about those guys where it's like dude, he hasn't been on this team in 12 years. No, we're not showing our age. We're showing our legitimacy. Our reference of centers that can't catch is the guy that played here 12 years. And that's why young people should be listening to us. We're showing our depth of knowledge. Wisdom. Wisdom. Wisdom. We're seasoned. Sage wisdom. No, he is a I just want there are some things that you do where it's not this is not just like oh, that was just random
or he just fumbled his way into that like that kind of up and under move that he's hit now, dairy queen for and now I mean, how they get from Milwaukee that came over from Miami. But he hit both of them with just some spin moves at the rim. I yeah, here's the statement that I think when I look at what Mara does, we have not ever had a center that does this. His level of skill set. And I'm not saying, listen, I don't think it's going to translate immediately at that. I think there'll be gains where he looks embarrassed like I think it's going to be gains where he gets beaten certain ways for sure. But I'm like, there are just nobody has had this level of skill set like and I know the easy comp because he's Spanish is to look at Mark and Paul Gasol. Yeah, but I think that's the fair way to at least think toward it. I think his ceiling is probably Mark, which is an all NBA level. Yeah, Mark, because all was a defensive way of the year. Yeah, he won deep point. Sean Zach Low. He did order strength that. But yeah, I just because that was what was fun
about. There's a play that kept going around where, you know, a layup that they ended up kind of a not going through with turned into this like seven pass. Yeah, series that ended up with the I think was Shay ended up with like a top of the key wide open three. It was just like, but who was on there as the center like it just goes back to remembering that Sam has shifted his way of organizing this team. Everybody on this team can pass. Yeah, remember like it was a Russell in Kevin and it would stop and in the ball just stop James and here's here for three years, but like that was it. Yeah, it's it's going to be a brand of basketball this year. That thing is going to be uniquely incredible to watch. Or minor. Erick Manor coach Eric Manor. Yeah. All right. Do you have one? All right, Elman. It doesn't have to be about him. Does it? No, no, no, no, no. No. Okay. How about this? We could be past the Mara segment. Okay. Jared McCain.
Starter. Wow. Okay. So they get out of out of camp and he's and he's the guy. I mean, it's it's irresponsibly bold, I would say. Yeah, it's a Habanero to a pocket probably. I think yeah, I would call it Habanero. Habanero, you can go in there. I'm going to help, Pinho. You could talk yourself into it just because he's the best shooter on the team. And just having more shooting is helpful. You don't think he's the best shooter on the team? Oh, yeah, keep going. Okay. I'm going to keep going. I'm so excited. Oh, you go. Oh, he's got a high. I think he's got a some bold about who's going to be better. Oh, he's got something. I think yeah, I think McCain's the best shooter. And you that lineup would be good. Like a Shay McCain, Dub, Chat, Heart lineup would be really good. He'd get to shoot a whole lot. I mean, he's not going to be the focus of the defense. Yeah, I mean, I would guess that if and when they play that lineup,
it would do very well. Now, the only thing is it puts a ton of pressure on Dub to be the point of attack defender because I don't think they'll make Shay that. And then you have to hide McCain on somebody. But most teams have a guy you can hide guys on. Yeah. And so are you talking yourself out of it or toward it? I mean, it's not going to happen. But I like the idea. That's what I would say. It's a nice little tag that's a nice little habanero. You gave me jalapeno. I did. You did. I got out of it. And you didn't even give me the seed. I'll give you a seed. Hello, Pino. I think it's I think it's having a hero. I just don't I just think there's two other options, especially whenever you consider the way that AJ has looked defensively. Mm hmm. You could really you could talk yourself into him being that guy because he's going to scale up similar to how dork did with this team. And you don't have to put the pressure on Dub to be that guy.
Where like, Kason's Kason's really good, but he doesn't really scale up all that well. And and maybe he shows that he can this year, but but AJ is just clearly stronger than what K so is. This is probably going to end up being the Thunder's best starting lineup in this era. Yeah. So probably ever, probably ever. Yeah. That's a sort of like, Andrew and Alex had mentioned on Wednesday. Like what was the best passing, you know, what lineup could you put up in the past? That was like, how long until you get to Deon Waiters and Randy Foy? It's like pretty quick. So fast, pretty quick. So fast. Yeah. And so it's just you there's no these roster this, I mean, this whole iteration last three years of these rosters is just there's nothing comparable in the Thunder history. Like maybe they didn't have the top end talent that Russ and Katie did. Maybe I just disagree. That's what I said maybe because I know that it's hard like people put, but I'm like, I don't know between Dub, Chet, Jay,
like the if you include three guys, yeah, there's no contest. And then when you include four, then it's we're not even having a conversation, which would be who would be your fourth like AJ. I think AJ is the fourth best player. I see. There was never there was never a fourth guy that was that good. Never. No, no, no, no. Not even close. There was not a fourth guy as good as K so. There was never a third guy as good as the third guy here. No, but the, I mean, I would say, Chet probably is also Dub, Dub against the box. Oh, it felt so good watching him. Just he finished at the right. I don't know. It felt way easy for him, which probably also the testimony of how bad the box are going to be, but yeah, yeah, you just watched him like his finishing at the rim was just incredible. And the fact that he finished a game without pulling his hamstrings. So that was the most encouraging part. He was like skipping after, remember that, that layup that he hit when he started skipping. There was like part of me that's like, is he okay? No, he's just really happy.
It'll be probably, it'll be a quarter of the season before I start feeling like, okay, every time he does something. Yeah, you mentioned that last week. Those, those first, you know, that first handful of falls is going to be like, you know, the feeling of just like, oh, it's hard as it wasn't even the falls. It's like just he pulled it in the Western conference. What, gosh, what was that first round? Just finishing a layup. Yeah. Yeah. You wouldn't even do anything like hard. He just was going to the rims. But it's like those, those first chatfalls after I know. Yeah. It's just like, it's just like, oh, no. Hey, I do want to bring up, you know, we're saying we never had a fourth guy like that. Kevin Martin. Yeah. But the year that Kevin Martin was there, you had he was, I guess you would call him the fourth guy. Yeah, because you surgery be the third. So, so we're not with with heartening surge like, was just that we just don't think that I don't think surgery is that level. Yeah, it's exactly.
Being good was not at that level. Yeah, because yeah, it's exactly right. So surge was, surge would have been that level of kind of high quality player. But like, so I'm not trying to get a whole ahead of this. I mean, I guess I technically am like, we've never had this where I think that this year, the Thunder will have three all stars. Yeah. I think they'll have dub, dub chat, and Shay all three will make the all start. Yeah. Really? I mean, I'm predicting my bold prediction is about three all stars. Your bold prediction is that my bold prediction. Um, um, um, what's the last, what's the last team that had three? I can only think about like two teams that had that many. It was the Warriors teams that always had the three. I missed the hot, but that was like 10 years ago. Did the Boston did, I think, would have been Derek White? No, I'm saying, I'm saying Larry. I was saying Larry bird. Robert Parrish. Uh, Kevin MacKale. I was actually, I was a target. And there's a Larry bird action
figure on. Oh, you should have bought that. No. How did? So target decided, yeah, we mean this. It's just like that. They have these like sport action figures. And the one like the main one, you knew who probably knows the answer to that question, Taylor? Who's the last team that had three all stars? I think you're right. It's the Warriors is the last one. So when I remember, I said Warriors of those Hawks teams, oh, it had to have been the Warriors. You know, Boston did it. That's a couple of years. That's his last. Boston didn't. Boston did it last year, three hours. Thunder three. It kind of led to the place of we were. So one of things, uh, Kevin, my friend Kevin mentioned it was a one of these things that Kevin is that like how are we undervaluing Kevin Martin? Like that era that it had. Katie, Katie Ross, Katie Russ, surgeon, Kevin Martin. Yeah. He was good. Was he as good as AJ? With that top four talent, it's good as the top four talent today. It's not today. It's fair. It's a fair. It would not be as hot. He just was not good defensively.
And was not able to like whenever dub was out in the playoffs, AJ stepped up. Yeah, go rewatch the Lakers series. He was so good. Hey, whenever Russell's out against the rock or against the Grizzlies in the second round of that playoffs series in 20 Reggie Jackson 14 15. Yeah. Kevin Martin did not step up. He was terrible. Horrid. And then left to play at Minnesota. And that Kevin Durant, like couldn't. That was all fair. I mean, Reggie Jackson. Like the depth. The Thunder went to game seven of the conference finals without two of their best four guys. Yeah. Yeah. Because of the depth that existed past the top four guys, the Thunder, when they lost one of their top four guys. And this, I mean, it was their second best player, just like the Thunder lost their second best player. They couldn't get out of round two against a Memphis team that was fine, but they weren't like some legendary team. Yeah.
I think they lost in five. So I would give three all stars for the Thunder, a Tava Pinho. Yeah. Okay. I could see it happen. I would have to have like the real way to get to whether or not this is a, I think, Habanero or Peach is like, you'd have to go through the entire Western conference for a while. I feel like the Western conference has taken a little bit of a step back. Yeah. Compared to the Eastern conference, but I mean, you still have to know how to run. Yeah. You would have to figure out in the end like, right, this might be one of those where I sneak in because somebody gets injured, like before the El Star game. Chad has been elected as a, been selected as the replacement player. No, I think the Thunder have a chance to be that dominant of a team. And when you have teams out of this dominant, they, they routinely get three guys. How awkward would it be if, if Chet does get out there and then the coach, whoever the coach ends up being puts a Chet and Wimbee together. And then on the, Wimbee will probably be the one choosing
the teams like one of the, if that, no, they don't do that anymore today. Well, remember, they, they couldn't because they, they do world versus. That's right. Oh, it's not easy. I've got it. Yeah. So not even possible. Okay. Okay. Cool. No, we're then. Okay. I have one similar. Jada makes. I'm getting choked up already. Jada makes all NBA first team with Shay. Whoa. That's, that's Pocky. I think he establishes himself, reestablishes himself, as like what I believe is the best wing in the NBA. Oh. Okay. I think a hot chip. I think it's, we start. That's chip hot, hot chip. I think that we start to see. Pocky, we've talked about like the Michael Jordan, Scotty Pippin stuff before.
But I think we start to like really see that come to life this year because the thing is like we, the thunder haven't even gotten to their primes yet. Yeah. Like dub and chat aren't in their primes yet. They're almost there, but they're not there yet. And when you think about some of the greatest teams of all time, you think about those Chicago Bulls teams, all those guys were basically in their 30s when they were winning six rings. Yeah. Like the, I think the average age of that team was in its 30s. The average age of the warriors, whenever they were like destroying everybody was like 27. I think the thunder average age right now is like 24. Yeah. Yeah. Like they're still like on the doorstep of like what they can be and because they already won the title, we think of them as like this fully formed thing. Yeah. They're not. But I think like Jada just has like literally the entire skill set, offensively defensively, he can shoot it, he can drive,
shoot the mid range, finish at the basket. Like he's, he literally does everything. He can play all five positions. He does everything. And I just don't know that there's going to be another player like that this season that plays his same position. I think that he is going to establish himself. It's okay. It's okay. It kind of sounded like you just wanted to auto-tank. Kind of switching in the stereo. Yeah. Doing that, that like monk thing, those like druids that can sing with two different octaves. You know I'm talking about? Yes. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. You can do that. Thanks guys. So going back the last 20 seasons, there have been two, two years where there have been two players from the same team that were on first team. On B.A. Curried to ramp? Nope. Not Curried to ramp. I hold on. Now you maybe. No. Can you repeat what you said? There have been two players who have been on first team that are two players together.
Okay. Do you get it? No. Okay. Not those two. Okay. Oh. In the pet. Okay. Lakers? What Lakers? LeBron Luca? No. Oh, what Lakers? How long, how far back did you go? 20 years. 20 years. Oh. What? Yeah. Like so in 1718. Kobe Powell? No. 1718 Steph made 13. KD made first team. Wow. Okay. And then the next year in 2018, 19 Curried made first team, KD made second team. Oh, snap. And then it was neither one of them made first team in 1617. A couple of snow. Both second team. Wow. Okay. All right. I gave you a hand. It was the Lakers. Lakers. LeBron AD. Oh, coved here. Yeah. It's coved here. Yeah. Oh, coved here. And then the other one is
like when I said 20 years, that was when I stopped. And that's when it was. That's when it was. It was six. Wow. Yeah. God, was it a pit? It's not the piston. No. I don't know. It'd be really, really hard to get. So who's the MVP? Do you remember MVP 0607 or 0506? Steve Nash. Steve Nash. Oh, I'm Ari. Yep. I'm Ari and Steve. That's the last one. Wow. Before those Lakers teams. Wow. That's wild. Okay. Well, and that's a J fact. That's J fact. That's J fact. That's J fact. J Sean. Did we get J fact? J fact. J fact. Back, Lloyd. I have a double in two after. I think I was breaking. J Sean. That's a nice one, Jay. That was awesome, dude. That's an honor, by the way. I know. I feel it. All right. It's got the next one. Wait, did we rank in Indies?
Yeah. We say, I mean, two times in 20 years, I would say that is a pocket chip. That's a pocket chip. I'll say, I'll say, I'm a nearer, though, because it's I can see it. Come here. I'm coming. How about you? I'm seeing your mirror. But what are you guys think? It's like someone's just like rolling that record back. Okay. To the tune of that drum, dub averages 22, 7, 7 and 7 to the pitter of your pattern. Dub averages 22, 7 and 7. He becomes Scotty perfect. 22. The seven assists part is the is the part that makes it hard to talk. Seven boards to he's never averaged more than 5.3 boards per game. Yeah. So he has to go the average of two and both of both the dose. Yeah. That the 22 is just frankly not there's no
spice to it at all. Right. Exactly. No, no, it would be his highest scoring season. It would bear point four points. Yeah. Yeah. It's the it's so that year he had 5.3 rebounds, 5.1 assists, 20.1 assists. The advertisement, right? I know. It did basketball reference the level of pop-ups. Yeah. They're trying to make their money, man. Yeah. Anyway, so that's it. That's what your option is is he would have to get what you say seven. So two more, two more says two more rebounds and the points is a given, I think. Yeah. I mean, at that I still think that's probably a hovin year, though. I think so. And I think that's then he's first team with Shay. That's how many are I mean, if that happens, you're probably right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. How many are I'm telling you, man? Let's skip me because I don't have one off the top of my head right now. Do you want to take one in line? Yes. Here go ahead. Take number two. Okay. Here's this. Here's this. Here's this. Get a load of this one. Get a hey. Hey. Hey. Okay. Wait. I'm actually not going to
read the one. Taylor gave me. I got my own thing about this. Yeah. No. Thank you. Chat wins. Deep. Wow. How'd you come up with that? What do you think? Oh, so so are you thinking Luke? Chat just comes in like an absolute monster? Oh my god. She has. Okay. That's it. This scenario does. It has to be heard. Like, it's a bit past his season. No. Maybe like 65 games. Yeah. Yeah. She does. Yeah. Yeah. That's what that's what a nuclear missile. What goes beyond the pocket chip? The pocket chick. The pocket chick. Sorry. Clearly a person made of pocket. I first and completely confused. The reason that you would say that it's not spicy is because he was second last year. The reason that you would say it's spicy is because literally the best defensive player to ever play the game is in the NBA. Come on now.
Seven foot five. Come on now. I'm a new bowl. Do you remember Wil Chamberlain? Thank you. I remember watching. Yeah. It's just those old days. Do you remember? I'm on the bottle. I television. Do you remember Bill O'Reilly wrestle? Some people I never finished my thought on who I thought would be the best shooter on the Thunder. You're right. It is Jared McCain. But for some reason, and I was way off. Josh Dicks. I felt like for a while every time I watched him shoot, he was going in. And then I looked at his stats in the last game. He was one of six. Not him. Oh, bold, but Hicks. Then it starts with four seven in game two. Then he can shoot. Then he can really shoot. He can shoot. He is probably the one that will challenge McCain or my guy, Shagil just Alexander. My guy. He was five of five so far or something in the preseason. It helps when you don't miss. It also helps whenever you're just wide open. Yeah. The bugs had almost no help. They had like one line of people. The heart part. I was watching them and I'm watching
them. I'm watching the pelicans. I'm like, the Thunder are playing guys that will never play for them this year. Mostly. They've been in service for the other guys. These dudes are playing their rosters. They were playing the real guys. The pelicans were playing like Train Murphy was playing well into the fourth quarter. The pelicans are so sad. They're so bad. All right. Hey, that's a good one, Luke. Taylor had a hair in his beard. Groat. What? Yeah. He had a big one here. That's where they're supposed to be. No, this was not a beard hair. They go on. Yeah. All right. I have one for one, Shagil just Alexander. Lay it on us. I think it's went beyond. I think it's genuinely the more thing. I'm not even going to I always do this. I give caveats. It's not the point. Okay. Okay. Let me tell you. Let me talk. Let me talk. Okay. So, Shays highest volume three point season was the championship season. He shot 435 threes attempt 435 threes that year. He made 37.5% of them. Okay. So, 5.5.5.7 per game.
Last year dipped dramatically. He had 298 threes. It's ended last year. Yep. Dremond. I would ask that you would be looking at this because there is a high likelihood that I read this and completely made that. I think you're right. So last year he had 298 at 38.6. So, shot about a percentage on less threes per game. My bold prediction is that this year he shoots 503s total and he shoots them at a 38% clip. Wow. 503s. Yep. That. So, let me show you. Let me tell you who from last year, your 503 line of demarcation. The only one I thought made somewhat comp from this group to Shay. You have Anthony Edwards. You have Jalen Bronson. So, Jalen Bronson shot 528. Edwards shot 514. And then you got a key going maybe Jamal Murray at 563. Jamal Murray got 563. And then you have a Donovan Mitchell.
He'll shot 616. Oh, God. That's disgusting. Derek White 640. And then obviously the number one. Did you know who shot the most threes in the NBA last year? Taylor? No. It's good. Let me hear it. Lamella ball. Okay. Give me that. Give me that number. I love that. 740. Yes, dude. That's 30.6.18%. And then Luca shot 694. Dang. That's so tight. Well, Mello, let him rain. Mello and Ant on the same day. I'm so excited about that. Because I think Ant took, he took eight again. He took 10 the year before. That's my favorite part. Here's one of my the funniest thing. I think the Mello top 30. Steph Curry. Steph Curry was the 30th most 3.3th in the last year. Which sounds like it was the greatest shooter of all time. Yeah. Because he only played a total of 43 games. I'm gonna say a game is played. How many threes did he still get off total? 484. Oh, he would have shot 900 or something. He took he's consistently taken 11 a game since 2021.
So yeah, 11 is just a lot. We're asking Shay to basically play almost every game and make intake six a game. Yeah, that feels jalapeno now. You're jalapenoed it. No, you you peen youed it. You gave too much context and you peen youed it. We were at Habaneroom and you hallowed it. I don't know. I mean, that would be more than he's shot by a substantial margin. 65 more threes. Make it hold on. Change it to 600 threes. No, change it. I think it's bold enough to be somewhat realistic. It's bold enough, but I'm giving you a jalapeno. It just I think it puts into a question like whether or not that like off the ball like the way we've seen the first two games which are completely not helpful for us to actually kind of extrapolate through the season. I just think that there's a chance that he will get more opportunities for just that. And I think that's what he's worked to add to his game.
Yeah, see what Bronzing can do. I think that Spurs game just really shaped or that's first series shaped the way they wanted to play this year in a pretty different way. Did you see I saw this short little thing that his trainer told someone that after the next one, the finals like the minute, the next one, the finals, he texted his trainer and was like just live it. She was just like this is I can't believe we're not there right now. I'm so mad. It's not. Yeah, I mean, they should have been. Yeah, like with health. They're there. Yeah. All right. Yeah. What do you think about that one? Andrew? I think it is I think it's jalapeno. I'll say hey, you know what? I think I'll take more threes. I think this team is going to like tilt more toward the offensive in any ways. Yeah, there's going to be other. There's going to be more guys to defend. And if they move the ball like they have been at all, they're just going to find more threes. And they're going to have to do it with with Dorik gone with Isaiah Joe gone with Wiggins gone like they just need other guys to take threes.
Because it can't all be Jared McCain to take more threes. Like they're going to need everybody to take more threes. I think that they'll. So do have one from McCain to about three points. So it's in the same vein. So it's three point shooting last year in his 30 games. He shot 138 threes. Okay, so he's on pace for 377. He shot 39.1% on those threes. I think that this year he's going to shoot over 40% I put it at 453s. I like that. I love that last year only one player shot more than 450. That was Isaiah Joe. He's still got off that many 466. Yeah, I think so dork shot 413 last year, which is a lot of threes for Lou Gensdorf. No, wait, I'm looking at the wrong year. That's 20. I'm one of the right year here. Sorry, that's that's two years. That's championship year. That's last year. That was championship year. So let me pull that one up my my my apologies. So this is 2526. So this is last year. 3.10 per game time flies. You got. Yeah, so sorry. So Joe last year shot 428. Dork had 372. That's when Shay had 298. So that's actually kind of took a dip that year on 3.volume.
So yeah, I mean, I think. 450 be a lot. It would be a lot, especially since an upside that between him and Shay, they have 950. It also just means to play a lot is really what it means. Don't you think that's going to happen? Yeah, like what's your what's your guess on minutes played. For him. I still think there are defensive limitations that exist with with Jared and because of that, I think that he'll be in like the 20 to 22 is range, which is about what Wiggins was playing when he was playing. Yeah, it's Joe's minutes. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's I think that's the role that he will play. I'm I the biggest question mark as far as minutes played and we need to move a little quicker because we got to somewhat of a timeline here, but one of the weirdest questions for me that I'm trying to figure out if Mark is just teasing me heading into the season. Is is Ken rich actually going to play this year? Help. I mean, no, no, don't don't give me your little well. He's kind of. I'm saying like, yeah, don't know like real rotations.
I'm not. No, like real rotation minutes like he looks awesome. Yeah, he looks good. I I think it's Wigs is gone. Like is there a chance that they start relying on Ken rich to play moments of the season. I mean, he he played 855 last year, but he he started the season injured before then he's playing a thousand minutes every season. I think he'll be back to about that. But I don't think he's going to be like the eighth guy on the team or anything. I think I think it'll be pretty similar. And I think just the hope that just this year that he will be healthy. But I mean, but he'll probably play a thousand to twelve hundred minutes. I mean, they're going to be great minutes, man. I think he'll play, but like you look at still the depth of the roster is ridiculous. You know, yeah. There'll be a lot of guys that need a lot of minutes. Like cases going to play a lot.
I think they're also planning on playing starts. A J is going to play a lot. Sturts is going to have to play. You know, dub is going to take so many minutes. Yeah, you know, that he didn't last year. You know, I heart chat like all those guys are starters. Like they were going to they're going to play a lot of minutes. So there's just not a ton of minutes to go around like once you finally get to like Ken rich. Like yeah, he'll play and he can be versatile and they need a forward, but I don't know if physically too. I would say that Ken rich looks really good. Like he's he's like slim. He looks like really athletic. I think there's there. There is a case to be made that should start that can rich should be the starter and should take shots away from maybe maybe should make an all ambience. Okay, that's a chicken. That's a chicken. That's a chicken. And you have a lot of bold predictions that you have not gone. Are you trying to save these? I might say I might save some for. I've gotten we've got. I've got one. I want to do all of the A said a bold. I've got a bold prediction.
Okay. Okay. What's this? Okay. Andrew ends the season with long luxurious shoulder length. Oh, wow. Okay. Uh-huh. That's bold. I'd like that. I'd like that to be peach. I know. I'd like it to be peach. There's no chance. This flow. This flow. Everybody's talking about it. Everyone's talking about Andrew's. No. No. Um, but a matter of time that your hair has been longer than mine. Like in our entire friendship. Yeah. I would put it at like 5%. Yeah. Wow. We're living in it. That's probably we're living in rare times. Wow. We're living in rare times. Interesting. Very interesting. We're going to a friend reference dog. That's right. We go to the hair. The hairstab. The percentage of time the interest hair has been longer than Luke since they've been friends. Uh-huh. Take that. Yep.
And then you're piping smoke it. Packy chick. Packy chick. Packy chick. Okay. You got you got some all NBA ones. Yeah. I'm gonna lay on us. I want to lay one on you. Lay it on it. Kauai will get arrested this season. Uh, unfortunately, that's a peach. Uh-uh. Unfortunately, that's a peach. I uh, listen to I'm still keeping up with all the Pablo podcasts about this. Yeah. And the last one really started to set up for a legitimate much larger federal trial that might take place here. Kauai can only play in the Toronto games. He can't travel in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He has to be extradited during an NBA game. And it's still a good trade for the Raptor somehow. Yeah. Uh, it's like when I, it's why I couldn't carry. Could only play in certain games because it's like he wasn't doing COVID stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kauai is illegal. And so he can't play all the games. Uh-huh.
Uh-huh. I'm another one. Okay. The winner of the rookie rookie of the year awards. Uh-huh. Good. Uh-huh. Will be. I'm gonna see. Darius A. Cup Jr. That's bold. That's that's that's that's happening. Uh-uh. Um. I'm going to have a near him. That's happening. I like what I like about it is one I watched him in summer league and really liked it. He looked amazing. Summer league. No matter. The Kings are bad. The Kings are so bad. And he's going to have the ball a lot. He's like the ball handler on that team. Yeah. Uh-uh. I love his pick and roll. Uh-uh. I love his pick and roll game with uh-sabone. Saboni. And he was- the thing is the thing is he can shoot. Like he-he's a-he has a good pull up jump shot. I just think he's really good. I think he's going to get a bunch of assists. I think the Kings are bad. You're there. You're playing. I think that's how he wins. Taylor loves his pick and roll game with Sabon.
Sabon. Saboni. You're a lot. I love his P and R game with-well, because I was stopping myself from saying. Sabon. I was stopping myself from saying. Sabon. bonus. bonus. We know where you're going. We know. It was a- it was a reach. AJ DeBonza. I don't- I just think like the Wizards are going to end up not letting him have the ball as much as they should. And Kim's on the other side of the match. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kim Booser on the- on the- on the Gris. Hey, you're not even missing a dimara. Or a- I'm not. Caleb Wilson. Yeah. He's a guy, right? He's a guy. He is a guy. Good job. Thank you. So what do you- what's your good mind? Have a near-ho. Have a near-ho. Have a near-ho. Maybe a pocket chick. I don't think it's pocket chick. He- I think he's going to be real. The Kings are just so forgettable. I know. But that's why he's a good- I don't remember. Like four Kings. What happened to various A-Cuff? Dude, he's had a great season of the Kings. Oh, the Kings. Yeah. Are they still the NBA? Yeah. That- that's the reason why he may not be considered for much because nobody's going to care.
Because they're gonna- they're gonna be truly terrible. Yeah, they're pretty bad. And Zach Levine is still on the team. Yeah, which is Darius A-Cuff senior. That's right. Yeah. It really kind of is. He won't end up playing a lot of good with Sam. He'll get injured. Yeah, I think that he will- they will do a buyout and he'll end up on- the Lakers. Oh wow. Yeah. No. On the sheet on the heat with all the others. The heat would make sense to him. The heat would be good. I- I like did not know that Clay Thompson. I forgot Clay Thompson was on the heat. Yeah. That would be a fun game too. It's like what- like just to pick the- like for a second I'm like Demarro Rosen. I'm pretty sure he's on the nuggets. Oh wow. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. I saw another one. Who do you think- who do you think that retired that's still in the NBA? That's another fun game. Oh yeah. Like his Bruce Brown? I don't know that he made it on a roster. Wait, no. He signed with the Nix on a 10-dale. Oh. You know who I saw yesterday? Maria Hazonia's back. Yeah.
Hold on. Not Cavs. Yeah. He is. He's on the Cavs. He's on the Cavs. See? I was so happy to see that. You see, Maria Hazonia did. But I did say Maria. Maria Hazonia. I'm not- so I'm not paying for Thunder Plus. And so I'm not watching Precise Games. But I'm watching the heck. I'm watching the heck out of some highlights. And all I can think about with the Day Mara on the court and Jamie Jockez on the court is like, I think it's Jamie Jockez. Jamie Jockez. With Jamie Jockez. With Jockez. Jockez. Just can't pronounce it. That's so weird. That's the thing that can't pronounce it. Pogasol. That continues to be one of the weirdest ones of all time. It does. Like pronouncing- like Wendy saying Tomas, Sorber is like a- Tomas. Tomas. It's like, what are you doing there? Yeah. Chris Pizar. How is he pronouncing Memphis? Memphis? He wrote- he wrote- he wrote Memphis. I love that picture so much. It's a great picture. I love it. It's a great picture. Okay.
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And now we're back. Okay. Okay. Look, just we're going to rating these bold predictions. No discussion. First one comes from at leave underscore I says shirts will average more minutes than J will. Pocky. Oh, that's that's Pocky. Okay. J X. Really good. Yeah. Okay. See, M a underscore X. Mara will crack the starting line up. Pocky. Pocky. Pocky chick. Pocky chick. Yeah. Okay. Next. Oh, Jay. I'm not. I'm not there. Only because. Wow. He will start this year. Uh, 13 games because of injury. Yep. Yeah. He's the backup for I heart for sure. But cracks the starting line up. Yeah. I mean, I mean, surpasses that's pocket chick. Yeah. Okay. Next. Uh, it's like you immediately read under a hard like immediately. I know that's that's what's what almost I look at what he's doing. I'm like, I heart is an elite center for the team.
He's one of the best 10 centers in the NBA. Well, the way he plays is just perfect for the way this team was played. It's like, oh, yeah, Mara, look how great of a passer is like, do you remember I heart? He was one of the final pieces to make this team a champion. Yes. Like, no, not. I'm talking about. Okay. Next. 28 years old. Next. What? That's a pocket chick. Yeah. That's a pocket chick. My, my full prediction. Yeah. Both facts would be a great segment. Next. At Thunder sooner eight seven says AJ six man of the year 65 plus ones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Next comes from at goblor underscore DFS who says, she will average 40 this year due to not sitting for the quarters. That is pocket. I actually predict she had to play less minutes this year. Wow. Okay. It doesn't really make sense with my 500 three pointers, but I think it's in play less minutes. Okay. Next. At a out underscore one five says J double play all 82 games and be a shoe in all star.
Oh, howaping you. Howaping you bell pepper actually. I did have a bell pepper. I said in one of my bowl predictions was like 77 games played. Yeah. That would be awesome. Yeah. I think in the 70s would be great. Next from at Bollard Jack says the rookie of the year is on the Thunder roster right now. Oh, take it away. I like it. Take it away. But yeah. No. That's a. Oh, take away. Oh, it's a pocket. It's going to be deri say cup. So it's pocket. Yeah. Yeah. That's pocket. He's on the Kings. Yeah. You have to have. I mean, what you need to be the rookie of the year is possession. Yeah. All the minutes. Yeah. I think I'm going to see. I think I'm going to see. Championship last last work of the year for the King's sense. Oh, Tyres. Yeah, Tyres. Tyres. I said Tyres. Haliburton, but I'm glad I just got the tie out. Yeah. I know. I know. We would have given it to you. We would have given it to you. Next from at MM underscore bricks. I heart will make a three while running an I heart chat. Mara J will Sorber five man unit.
Yeah. Peach. Peach. That's so beach. Pocky chick. That is pocket. That's good. That's good. That's a good one. At Bullard Jack. Dub is top 10 in MVP voting. Whoa. Top 10 is not that crazy. It's not that crazy. Top 10 is not crazy. But still, Hallapen. Yeah. With scenes. It's it will be tough for anybody on the thunder to get votes. Just because she exists. But you could give him like. You could give him your fifth place vote. There's no way she gets a three P MVP, right? I mean, that would be a bold prediction. Yeah. I don't think I'm worried that. Well, it's if they won 70 games. Yeah, and he did shoot 503. They're like, do you realize you shot 503s? Yeah. They're like MVP. Yeah, gotta give it some. Yes. If you need 38% at 503s, this team would be they went 70 games. Yeah. MPP next to be the MVP from at chicken, Winick. 79 and three.
Yeah, that's that's irresponsible. It's the most irresponsible pocket chick to ever exempt. Yeah, that's like you actually you accidentally killed pocket chick. And you're going to jail for murder. This is you're trying to cover up. Yeah, you're trying to cover a pocket chick. You killed pocket chick. But you have pocket dust on your hands on your jacket. Next. Next. Are you MIFT and are you peed? MIFT MIFT and peed. I'm not MIFT and peed. I'm Jean Bede. I originally had a trial today, but we settle. I got to be. We're all being we've got this man. Look at that base. I know. It's a good base. I'm not the base. I don't know how are you all you all MIFT and peed. I'm not I'm not marked in part. I'm annoyed by the Thunder Plus thing for preseason. That is pretty miffable.
Yeah. Yeah. Like I get it. Can you just make it then free for preseason? It's preseason. I know. I'm free. Yeah. It's been. It's been. It's been. I'm in a high school. Dude, I miss that. Bring that Thunder team. I was teaching at Mississippi High School. I know they were just there. Yeah. And I sat court side and I talked to Sam Preston for the first time in the hallways. Little did you know that you two me and a jam band that we would be. That's. What is that? Sam was over and we just jam. Ryle and plays the keys. I don't know if he plays. Ryle and plays the key. Where he's got like just a silky Elvis voice. That's what that would be. That would be it. He's actually got it's a key tar. Yeah. That's Ryle and. Yeah. Okay. I'm a key tar. What a beautiful name for a girl. Key tar. Key tar. All right. 11 days. 11 days till the NBA starts back in Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City,
the San Antonio Spurs picking a Oklahoma City 45 point win. Wow. That would be great. Yeah. The 21st is either going to be the best of your life or the worst of your life. Oh, dude. It weirdly well. The ceiling will be crumbling out. Either you're going to be listening to so many podcasts that day or you're going to like try to find other interests. Yeah. I'll go back to my history. My rest of history podcast. So. I'm going to be listening to this guy. That J goes back to World War II. No, I'm listening to the French Revolution. Oh, French Revolution. Guys. They're awesome. Yeah. They're funny. They're funny. Do you learn a lot too? Yeah. There are two historians, but they're hilarious. I love to learn. I also love to learn. I have a question for you. Is read is listen to an audio book? The same thing is reading. Talk to you guys again. I'm just a giant. I'm just a giant. Don't cry.
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