This Trump Debate Got Uncomfortable FAST | DSH #2140

0:00If you're not smart enough to spend $12 on a condom or spend $30 on an art afternoon appeal, whatever, you shouldn't be having sex if you're not going to be smart enough to protect yourself. You knew that you voted for a guy that is a habitual liar. You knew that Austin with Donald Trump. It's one of two things. Either he is a pedophile enabler or he is a pedophile himself. I'm not going to make it clear. I'll claim for either one of those. He did leak information to the FBI on Epstein in 2006. He kicked them out of, he's well known and well documented. He kicked them out of Mar-a-Lago the second that he made a pass that awaited his 16-year-old daughter. This thing's a document and I'm not going to say Trump is a pedophile enabler. All right guys, Freedomfest Day 2. We got Brian Shapiro and Austin here today. They both debated Jake Langester the other guy. I'll back home. That was, I'm reminded and I understood why some people call black conservatives coons because I can't say that. But yeah. I can't. I can. Does he call you that? Well no, he's what he called me was a chimp. Yeah.

1:00He called me an ape. Uh, he cheesed whatever that means. But I've had multiple debates with Austin. I know he's a nice guy and we've had cordial debates and so this will be a nice switch. But I will say this like you, I'm sorry you had to deal with Jake the way you did is certainly being an African-American. It's even worse for you. He did a hell Hitler thing to me and I'm Jewish and here's the thing, Jake's Jewish as well. Now you might disagree with me on this, but I will say this. Jake happens to be a staunch Donald Trump supporter. So were you? Um, you're not going to find commonless supporters or Democrats that are going to treat you in my opinion the way Jake treated you yesterday. Now I'm sure there are Democrats out there that are racist. I'm not saying that's not the case, but it seems to me Austin that most of the people like Jake, we could be talking about the proud was we could be talking about the oath keepers. We could be talking about literally either fake or real Nazis, whatever you want to call Jake. Those always seem to be people that support Donald Trump. And unfortunately, because I think you're smart guy and I think for the most part you're

2:04fair, even though we disagree on stuff, these people are coming from the right and their mag is supporters. Jake Lang is a huge Trump supporter. So I'm wondering how that makes you feel because you're a Trump supporter as well. This is your side, even though you're very different than him. Well, this is why, you know, I have been labeled and I accepted the label as a Christian populist because it's not inherently Republican or democratic. And when I look at the, what I look at what Trump has been doing with the economy, when I look at the fact that this man went on television and I said this on Jubilee, actually recently, he said that he loves inflation. He said he loves inflation. He said he doesn't, he doesn't care about the American standard of living. That's that those are indefensible positions. Yeah, you got that though. Austin, I get that. But what I'm saying is there you will always have moronic radicals. I'm not a conservative because I'm more conservative than I am a Trump supporter. I will say this and Dennis Bytolz and I said this kind of yesterday, the mega movement is nearing its deathbed because of how Trump has turned his back on Republican principles. Trump has become a chronic capitalist and true conservatives would have to call that out.

3:07And I, there are, there comes a point where certain positions are simply indefensible. And yes, you're right. I will, I will see that there are radical, non-sensical assholes on the right more so than they're on the left. But at the same time, that's not going to make me any less conservative because my brain of conservatism is different than I just stand. I'm not saying you are like that, obviously. And Jake is a despicable human being. And listen, as I told Jake to, to, to be fair, to his face. I get doesn't want him either. I just, you know, he, Trump doesn't want him at the White House or Marlago. Right. He wants to be buried at Marlago. Listen, he's a cultist and we probably shouldn't spend too much time on Jakeling, but I did want to start by saying, you know, I thought you did the best you could under the circumstances. He's a, he's a despicable human being. He's awful. He's also a Trump cultist, right? You could, I wouldn't characterize you as that. You know, we'll get into the economy and all that other stuff. Right. But I will say this, I've never met Jake. I never really wanted to. A lot of my conservative friends and I do have plenty of friends on the right. Some high profile people said you shouldn't even do the debate. I did learn one thing about Jake.

4:07He really believes this stuff. Yeah. He is not somebody who just puts on a show. He actually believes the stuff. He says, which I think is really, it's not only dangerous, but it's scary that he actually believes it. It is. And I mean, I think that, you know, that type of, I did a video on this this morning. Yeah. That type of people that call themselves that kind of conservative people that say that that that's that American needs to be a white Christian nation. One, that's, that's not even what the book itself says. Sure. And that it's my job to call things like that out. Yeah. And I've said this plenty of times. The minute that a political ideology or supporters of a political ideology come into conflict with what I answer to above all else, which is Christ Jesus in the cross. I'll call this shit out and leave any political part. Of course. I think that's all right. The radical right or the radical. I appreciate that. And I know we're going to get into violence and Sean's got some topics first to talk about. Right. So I wanted to switch topics because I know we were just talking about Jake Lane. We'll get into the violence stuff in a little bit because I do want to talk to you about that too. I had an opportunity to talk to Nick Shirley yesterday.

5:09Now I met Nick Shirley at Amphest. Him and his stupid mom. And I knew Nick Shirley was a very ignorant person and people say, well, come on, Brian. He's young. Listen, there's plenty of bright wingers that are in the early 20s that are smart. There's plenty of left wingers on friends with Adam Mochler, Dean and Parker. So just because you're 22, 23 years old and you're a young man. I don't know, but you're not that young. But like just because you're young doesn't mean you can't put sense together. That's right. So, yeah. So I already debated Nick, but I saw him here because all he does is blame Democrats for frog. And I know the United States, as you know, and we were just talking about this, Austin, he pardoned 70 people that committed billions of dollars in fraud. Not only has Nick never investigated that, never even brought it up. Never spoke about it. This is the most corrupt president in American history. So I asked Nick that yesterday and I was respectful. And he goes, oh, oh, fraud is bad. Oh, fraud is bad. And then he says to me, but you have a problem with people becoming rich. I said, no, that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about fraud. And he's like, well, if you go fraud is bad.

6:10And then at the end of this video, it's so telling. He goes, well, what do you want me to do? I'm not a cop. Has he ever given that explanation about the fraud in Minnesota? Has he ever given that explanation of the fraud in California? No, because he goes after people that look like you. Okay. Now, I think fraud is bad, whether you're black, white, orange, fraud is bad, right? But he only seems to go after brown people. I saw him, I saw him, I find that very telling. And he had no answer. You just saw that video. He looked like a deer in headless. And I'll say this, there's a huge difference and not even come to Nick's defense here but there's a huge, there is a difference between Somalis and black Americans. See, they can trace their lineage back to their nation of origin. We can't. So there's a huge distinction there. And the problem is you can't call yourself a true conservative and not adhere to principles across the board. I don't think that Trump is the most corrupt president in American history. I think he certainly has engaged in multiple acts of corruption. I think the entire, what he actually exposed, and I talked about this with Dean Withers, what he exposed in full detail is how corrupt the American political system has always been.

7:11And I think that that's something that we have to have a conversation around. So when you look at, for example, you look at the billions of dollars in fraud that Nick Shuller does cover, right? That's that it needed to happen. The fact, the reason he doesn't want to investigate the seven, the 70 people that Trump pardoned that are billionaires is probably because some of those billionaires might be lining Nick Shulle's pockets. He's, they are. And you make a good point there, but I will push back a little bit. He hasn't found billions of dollars in fraud. He found very similar fraud that the Biden administration had already been investigating. They had already put 80 people away in jail. They're, they had been investigating the same fraud that Nick Shulle was talking about. Now, there's a few people that were exposed. They're okay, fine. But I think knocking on a few learning center doors, I think is a joke. He's funded clearly by people on the right, as you just mentioned. And I think the whole thing is an absolute joke. He's not going after any white collar fraud. And you know, you go to the Epstein files. I don't, it's funny. I don't see any people that look like you that are named in the Epstein files.

8:11So a bunch of white rich people and, and, and the white rich criminals are the ones that are committing the fraud for the most part. And, and, and then Nick Shulle's security detail. And by the way, I was very respectful. I didn't call names. I wasn't trying to disturb anything. I was just Alan asking him a challenging question. And I was respectful to him. And then after that, I left. I said, okay, I got what I wanted. I left. And security started falling in the hallway here. And I turned around and I said, if you're going to continue to follow me, we're going to record you. Because I want you to tell me why you're following me right now. I'm not threatened anybody. Then the guy walks away. Of course. And I, you know, that, that is one of those situations where that's just, that's bullshit. There's no other way. There's no other way to round down. I refuse to make an excuse for it. And this is where the rights will say, oh, Austin secretly a radical leftist. No, I just know bullshit when I see it. And I call it out. What we need in the right. And this is why this is one of the reasons that the political right, the radical rights is so fractured and the Republican party is so fractured. The Republican party became a coalition back in, I would say, really started. You started to see the fractures and these, the, the, the, the, the, the tea party Republicans

9:14and all that around after Barack Obama was elected. There is no, the one thing I'll give the left is this. There is a, there's a unification on the left. There's a unity that doesn't exist on the right. And that's because honestly, there's infighting between pro-America, pro-foreign nations, pro, pro-nationalism. And that type of, that type of nonsense to me only serves to further divide this country. And if it's not fixed, then what, then what, no, I know, I know we're probably going to lose in 26 in the midterms. I think that's fair opinion. I know, I know. And if, if, if there is not a serious, serious shift, because whether we like an Trump is still the president, he could change course tomorrow. If there's not a serious shift in, in his domestic policy dominating his administration's agenda. And the, the presidency will be lost by Republicans in 28 and possibly 32. So I completely agree with you. Yeah. And I know that Sean wanted us to, Sean, if you want to jump in here and talk a little bit. I think the next topic is going to be political violence, right?

10:15Yeah, the touch of the song. I wanted to get that Nick Shirley and the Nazi stuff out of the way with the, with Jay Clank. I think we did. Which side do you think is more violent at the moment when it comes to going off? Oh, he's right. Um. When it comes to political violence, which side do you guys think is more violent at the moment? So I'm going to give you my, my, just basic opinion on all this. So I don't like to do this. I don't like to blame one side or the other. I think political violence happens on both sides. Obviously. Uh, there's another thing we talked about yesterday, with Zeeb. Yeah. I mean, I think it happens on both sides. I don't think I know. Right. Whether it's 60 40 or 55 45. I don't care. What I do know is that there are crazy people that do crazy things. Tyler Robinson. I don't, you know, crazy person murdered Charlie Kirk horrible. We can talk about January 6th and all those lunatics, some of them violent criminals who did some horrible things. We can talk about the, the mega Republican who went into a Texas, I'll pass a Walmart to kill a bunch of brown people. Yeah. And we can also talk about people on the left that have done some horrible things.

11:17Um, it happens on both sides. But here's what we might disagree. I believe Donald Trump is making it worse. I believe Donald Stunk stokes the frame of political violence. He once said it a rally. I'd like to rough that guy up. If you rough them up, I'll pay your legal bills. We've never had a politician or a president in American history. That's ever spoken like that. He's told the oath keepers and the prod boys to stand back and stand by. Um, so I'm not blaming all political violence on Donald Trump. But what I am simply saying is he is more divisive. And I think he's made it worse. And then you have Charlie Kirk, who's allegedly was one of his best friends. Two days later, he's asked Mr. President, how are you holding up? Oh, I'm doing fine. And then he starts talking about his ballroom. So I mean, just look, what I don't like is when one person commits a violent act, like in this case, Tyler Robinson, horrible. And then everybody on the right says the left wants to kill us. Well, I think that that, you know, that has to go with, you know, that, that,

12:18you're right. That I would argue Trump has sort of fanned the flames of violence. He's made a little bit more acceptable. But at the same time, he was repetitively called a Nazi by Jasmine Crockett, Alexander, or Casio Cortez by a, by a lot of people on the left. And so just as much as the violent acts are a problem, I think that even the creation of environments of violent language, you know, and I, but now do I believe in violent language? I'm not necessarily. I'm a very a pro free speech guy. But to repeatedly call someone a fascist to blatantly compare Donald Trump to Hitler when there's absolutely no comparison that could be made between those two. You don't think so? No, because Hitler took, but well, first of all, Hitler took the guns away from the Germans. He burned down his own rice tag belling. You should tell that to JD Vance. Well, who called them, who called them the next American eight-hawthitler? Yeah, but he was vice president. Right. But JD Bayes and then we can't end his statement. And yet because he wants to be vice president. Well, right. But who called, who called Kamala fascist on the camp, Andrew? Trump did. Okay. So you would, like Kamala Harris, he also called a communist, which is more of an accurate description of the, of her, the, her policy, ladies, how's it? On both sides. Okay. I understand what you're saying.

13:19I, I, I haven't called Donald Trump Nazi or eight-hawthitler, but I, but I have said some of his verbiage and some of Stephen Miller's verbiage is similar to the Nazi days. I haven't called them Nazis. I don't use the term fascist. I just not a word that I really like to use. But I believe he's a wannabe dictator. I believe Trump is in any kisses. The ass of Kim Jong-un, Vladimir Putin. You know, I think he's a wannabe dictator. Now if we're talking about, again, political violence, all bad. We need to call it out. But you know, I remember when Paul Pelosi Austin, if you remember, was, it's lesbian. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and by the way, I'm not a Pelosi fan. Okay. But the, her husband was bludgeoned with a hammer. Yeah. Right. Almost died. And then as you say, his son dressed up like him for Halloween. Well, it's not just that though. Ted Cruz and Matt Gates, when he was in office, made conspiracy theories that it was some sort of gay relationship and he let him in. They were making jokes about it. Donald Trump's son had a Halloween outfit with underwear and all this others and a hammer.

14:19Now if somebody on the left did something like that, these debates only get bigger when you support the channel. And we've got some of the wildest matchups coming next. Subscribe now. Tell us in the comments who you want to see debate next. I would call it out. But here's a fundamental difference in my opinion. And you tell me if you disagree between Republicans and Democrats today. Mitch McConnell, we don't even know right now if he's dead or not. Okay. But back when he was freezing up, do you remember that Austin? It was like, there years ago, you remember when you had those freezups? Yeah. The first person to call him was Joe Biden to ask him how he was doing. No. To ask him about his health, AOC, people on the left. You know, we wish him well. We hope he gets better. If he's got an issue, we hope he gets help. I find that Trump is not capable of doing something like that. You know, Joe Biden at least had the decency to do that. And I think it's a fundamental difference today between Democrats and Republicans. Well, I mean, I don't disagree to the Trump is one of the most brash individuals that we've ever held. The office of the presidency. But I would also say once again, when we look at, you look at the,

15:20the culture of rhetoric that surrounded him, there is no way, I wouldn't make the claim on either side that one is more inherent. One side is more inherently violent than the other. I'm with you there. I don't, I'm not engaging in comparing who's done more morally evil, a reprehensible accent. But the idea, this is where a lot of people have to understand why Trump was elected in the first place. He was elected because he was not a politician. And he spoke to the beliefs and he spoke the ideas that were on the hearts of men could be one of the reasons. I think there are a lot of other reasons too. Well, I mean, it was that in the fact that he ran on a populist platform. He was going to drain the swamp and expose, you know, apparently exposed political corruption, which he still hasn't done. He made a lot of false promises. Well, right. I mean, again, this is where I, you know, they'll call me a radical, a secret leftist. But when you promise the American people that you're going to release the Epstein files and throw people in jail and the arrest are going to come, that was why I voted for him. Can I add a few other things? It's been so. Okay. And you, uh, 2016. And I appreciate you saying that, by the way, said he was going to hire a special prosecutor to go after Hillary Clinton. I knew a lot of Republicans voted for that. He said he was going to build a wall and Mexico was going to pay for it.

16:22How did that work out? He said he was going to this go around. He said he was going to lower prices on day one. Inflation now 4.2% was 3% right when Joe Biden left office. He said he was going to end the war in any way. I love inflation. Yeah. Well, that was stupid. I just can't. He said he was going to end the war Austin in 24 hours. Yeah. He's got in the war. And he said it should be a peace. Fred wasn't going to certainly knew what the Iran was going to. He said that Iran was going to the sea. Spire was going to be great. He's we've had more sea spires in this conflict. Right. And any other war in my lifetime. And then these are positions that as an honest conservative, I just can't defer. I mean, there's so much. There is so much tap dancing, Brian, that I would have to do the defending administration. I said, all right. I'm going to ask you a question now, though, because I agree with just about everything you're saying. If the election was held tomorrow, and if you knew, today, if you knew back then, what you knew today, would you still vote for Donald Trump? I, you know, I was asked that on Jubilee. And I gave an answer that shook, shook the internet, said, what I would have done is something completely radical and illegal because I'm too young to be present. I would have wrote my own name in the ballot.

17:23So you wouldn't have voted for Trump, though? No, that's the most important thing. No, I wouldn't have voted for Kamala. No, wouldn't have. But you wouldn't have voted for Trump. No, I wouldn't have. Well, that's better than some of the answers I get. Can I ask you though if you don't mind? So why wouldn't you vote for Kamala? Kamala Harris promoted abortion and single motherhood to black women on a college campus. All right. She was held high and she's very anti-god while claiming to be a Christian. And she, she politically, she politicized her race. She used to claim that she was Native American back in O's from O7 to 2012. And then she managed to became black. I can't stand that. But why didn't her father year as much when Donald Trump politicized Barack Obama's race and then said he wasn't born in this country? Why does I hope I actually don't disagree with him about Obama? I questioned his birth certificate. I don't, I, there are, there's evidence suggesting that Barack Obama's actual name was very so a terrible and even Judge Joe Brown, who's a good friend of mine, did an investigative. Well, Joe, Joe Brown's, I'm sorry, I appreciate the fact that Joe Brown's Joe Brown's your friend, but he's also a misogynist. Well, there are some views that I will have that you call me a misogynist, I'm sure. But when you look at, when we look at the Barack Obama's linearist, Barack

18:25Obama, first of all, Barack Obama did not have a genuine black American experience. He didn't. And he Barack Obama did nothing. I'm going to be honest, Barack Obama did nothing of substance with the black community at nothing. He put every single, and this is what the left does. The left puts every single class or subclass of people above black American, let's get, we support them more stonestly than in the old focus on common, because Barack Obama can't run anymore. And going back to Kamala Harris, what, what plan did, what, what, what did Kamala Harris did offer anything differently? She did. What did she do? She was on do morning America and they said she gave a bad answer. But if you look at her policy, she did and I can give you some of them right now. She also, what, what she's the same woman that said, I'm not going to do anything specifically for black people. No, when black people are the one race in this country that have stonestly supported the Democratic Party since the 1960s and the Democrats have done, there has been no specifically targeted reparative policy that the Democrats offered to black Americans. What is Donald Trump done to help black Americans? Barack Obama with the, with this black colleges, like to give you a lot of different. I'm Donald Trump gave HBCUs an additional $1.2 million. Right. But he, Donald Trump always so, not all of them has started that.

19:28Oh, and Trump continued it, which is a good thing. Obviously you just said, Barack Obama can't write anymore. So that means at least Trump, what did Trump at least did that? Oh, that's right. That's right. That policy starting it and continuing, right? Trump could have cut it off. I mean, he should have. He's cut off a lot of other things for bloody people. We could have done it. But he didn't cut that off. So when I'm saying again, I'm not looking to, the thing about it is, Trump never offered a plan to specifically for black Americans. I can tell right there. It's different when Biden says we will make reparations the chief target of our administration on day one. That's what Biden said and Kamala was his vice president. When he gets in, what does he do? He creates a transgender day of visibility. And A.A. is doing out of that. What I'm saying is you're putting subclasses of people over black Americans and found they have black Americans. When you have a gay pride month or you have a trans day, I don't immediately say, oh, well, he's putting down black people. It's another dirt but people that have been disarmenated again. He's putting black people at the bottom of your political agenda, disagree, accept, disagree. I disagree. It's time to get their votes. I disagree. And I'm going to give you a few things that Donald Trump, who you voted for, has taken away from black people. We can start off with healthcare.

20:28And if you want to talk about policy, he's had 10 years to come up with a healthcare plan. What is Donald Trump's healthcare plan? It affects black people, it affects white people, it affects everybody. Trump said in his first administration, he had a plan in two weeks. He had a plan in a month. If you have a problem... He said, he said, he said, I have constant of a plan. He said, he said, that's his statement. He still hasn't presented it. Thank you. I'm not going to lie. I'll let you... As far as abortion goes, I don't think you're a one issue voter, but I don't think it makes you less of a religious person if you are okay with getting women the right to choose. We obviously disagree on abortion. Here's the difference, I think, between me and you on this issue. I don't want to tell other people what to do. I don't want to tell women what to do with the body. So here's the thing about it, right? When you... So, under outside of rape or incest, there is no excuse for not using protection if you don't want to have children. I make that obvious. I agree. There is no... When you engage sex is a fully consensual activity. Again, outside of one time. It's not that hard. Again, outside of what I named,

21:28when two grown adults in degree to half sex, you should be smart enough, that women have... Women today are being smart. None of that, Brian. I'm a father, okay? There's no reason I have one son. I understand. Women today, hey, everybody's like you. Well, you should be. It costs $286,000 to get a kid to age 18 in this country. The average black person in this country only earns... The average black one earns $43,000 a year. Average black man barely earns $52,000. So if you're saying, and understanding this, you should not... You literally create life more difficult when you don't pursue your children. So if you should, what I'm saying, I'm gonna say this and be done. If you're not smart enough to spend $12 on a condom or spend $30 on an afternoon appeal, whatever, you shouldn't be having sex if you're not gonna be smart enough for protection. That cuts the abortion argument down right there. Okay, so Austin, we're gonna agree to disagree on this, and I'm never gonna convince you otherwise. The difference is I'm never gonna tell you how many kids you should or shouldn't have that you're a personal life. I will also say that you can be a 16 or 17 year old kid and make a mistake, and I'm not gonna tell that... You're gonna tell me teaching you to use condom.

22:28Well, there's parents that should teach their kids a lot of things. We don't live in a perfect society, but everybody shouldn't have it. But here's what I will say, and this is my biggest argument to people that are Republicans that are, and I don't like to call it pro-life. I like to call it anti-abortion. Here's why. Republicans will make the argument all the time about the preservation of life and that unborn baby for lack of a better term. But then once that baby is born, this is not just Donald Trump. This is the history of the Republican Party. They take away food stamps. They take away welfare. They take away maternity leave. They basically take away every government program that can help that single mother raise that child. So I don't like it with respect when people want to preach to me about pro-life agenda and anti-abortion when they have no problem with basically every Republican voting against government and pro-grab, that could help that mother raise that child. It'd be a different kind of Republican. Those are not programs that I would vote against. You personally, I'm talking about people in DC. Of course, yeah, yeah. But see, that's one of the inherent hypocrisies of America. You agree with me though. I agree with you that there should be social cuts, but at the same time, I would also, this is the caveat to that,

23:30I would also not promote or push single motherhood. I would actually re-institivize marriage. I would re-institivize, if I'm not mistaken in Russia right now, if the married women in Russia have, I think they get $10,000 or something from the Russian government every child they have within the confines of a marriage. In America, the breakdown of the nuclear family has done more harm to this country than any political party or political policy. Because the thing is, when especially in black America, as the case study for this, you go back and you read Daniel Pregnick-Money and his report on the black family. Even while we were poor, while we were at the poorest we'd ever been in this country, the married poverty rate for black couples never rose above 10% of the 60s ever. So, meaning while we were combating racist race or segregation, we were combating discrimination, trying to still earn our equal rights in this nation. While as long as we were married at state together, our children never grew up in poverty above the rate of 10% and we produced healthier, more financially stable kids in the long run. So, and we live in a culture today, Brian, that I do have to agree with this,

24:31that sex sells, that's a problem. Sure. It's one of the most dominant industries, but we don't prepare people for the responsibility that comes, definitely lay down and have unprotected sex. It definitely sells. Ashtonal Trump, he paid Stormy Daniels 130 grand. But anyway, well, you know, click on it, but it's taken on the woman's vagina as well. I like to find that. You know, Austin, but here's the thing, right? Okay, so we agree on that and maybe I'd be a little bit more able to come on your side when it comes to this issue. If Republicans, policymakers would come up with policies to help say to mothers, I want to say to children, I want to say to this Brian, you are talking to possibly God willing, the future performer of the Republican Party. Trump, and I'm going to be bold enough to make this a, but Donald Trump made the, he recrafted the Republican Party in his image in 2016. Somebody else, and you can't change the Republican Party as a whole. And what I'm telling you is, Trump didn't like it. Well, when I'm not, not when it comes to this issue, he didn't, Republicans vote against policies to help single mothers raise children. While you're talking about marriage and I think that's all real in a perfect world, that ain't happening. There are a lot. And by the way, we didn't even touch on this. There are hundreds of thousands of kids right now

25:32that are waiting to be adopted. That's with abortion being legal in about half the country. If you take abortion away and the entire country abortion being illegal, you're going to have millions of kids that are going to be waiting to be adopted. I disagree. Because at the end of the day, if abortion is stripped away, that should teach you what I'm going to call sexual responsibility. And to quote one of my friends from Clubhouse, proper Gucci management. At the end of the day, as a man, I decide, and this is the thing, men decide actually who gets pregnant in sexual intercourse. If you don't, if a man doesn't plan to stay inside of a woman, there is no baby there. But you agree with me. Well, look at this starts. If you just, there is a condom, a packet condoms cost what? $10, $12? If you're having consensual sex again, outside of rape or incest, because that's the only thing I will give full exemptions for for for a period. Well, that's good. There are a lot of Republicans that don't agree with you and I call them nut jobs. They're insane. They're insane. At the end of the day, if we're to, I'm only speaking of two individuals that agree to do something. Most of the time before you have sex with a woman, you've at least quartered her, you've taken her out on dates. If you've got money to do all that, but you don't have to do the sex.

26:33So that's insane. Okay, I understand. I wouldn't say it's insane, but here's the problem. And then it's just to be right, you're gonna have a lot of young people out there and even middle-aged people that are going to be irresponsible. They're going to make mistakes. And in some cases, and in many cases, those people can't afford to have a child. Then you should take sex. Okay, well, I agree. There's a lot of things that people shouldn't be doing, but Austin, they're going to do it anyway. And that's the people, human beings are not perfect. So with that being said, when human beings are not perfect, I believe it's a personal decision between the woman, the man, families, doctors, and I don't want the government to get involved in that. But you have a hundred, the problem is brand, you have a hundred percent control. When the confines of what we're talking about, you have 100% control over whether or not you lay down with somebody. We have to go back to that because the first principle is, when you're agreeing to sleep with someone, you are also agreeing to be very important. There are really important mistakes. There is no mistake. There are people that could be drunk. There are people that could be on drugs. There are people that might not be thinking

27:33about the future. Talking about, sometimes, 15, 16 year old girls. First of all, they're not even at 16. Six girls shouldn't be having sex. You keep saying shouldn't, and I agree with you. But at the same time, there's things that a lot of people shouldn't do in society that they do them anyway. People are not perfect. You're a religious man. And you know, when you feel make mistakes, and you know what happens when you make a mistake, you have to learn from it. That's why I would tell you. You voted for a guy that hasn't, his entire life. I did, and you know what's so funny? I hold myself accountable for that decision. I just told you that if I knew what now, what I knew, if I knew them, what I know now, I wrote my own name and confused. I'm so confused by that Austin, because you're a smart guy. And I see what Donald Trump did in his first administration. I'll even talk about January 6th. As you know, Donald Trump did not win the 2020 election, because there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud. That was probably all right. Correct. The one who's six years, nobody's been able to prove anything. January 6th doesn't happen if Donald Trump doesn't lie about the election. And I felt like that was their election of duty. He sat there on his ass for almost four hours

28:34and did nothing. They begged him to put out a video. This is a guy who is the only president in American history that is yet to concede losing an election. He doesn't believe in the right day. You know as long as I do, he'll never concede it. Of course you want. Don't you think that's never wrong? And you want, you voted for that guy to be the president? I did, you know why? At the time, I audition. At the time, at the time, when he left office, inflation was lower, it was the lowest it had been in my lifetime. Mind you guys, I'm only 30 years old. Be compared that in mind. The US economy was still performing well in the midst of COVID, better than in mind. And the fact of the matter is, I paid less in taxes. Wait, Donald Trump. Joe Biden at the end of his administration, we had the best economy. I think there were a few other countries that were right there with us than any other country in the world. He put inflation down to 3%. We want to talk about, no, no, no. When Joe Biden lucked, it was 3%. No, I think, I was, I was, so here's the facts. When Joe Biden left office, inflation was 3%. It's now 4.2%. When Joe Biden left office,

29:35the unemployment numbers were lower than they are now. When Joe Biden left office, the GDP numbers were much better than they are now. 4% when Joe Biden was present. 3% when he left office. Right now it's 4.2%. By the way, 3% inflation rate, when at one point is administration because of COVID, it was up to nine. I think that's a hell of a damn good accomplishment. And I'm not saying Joe Biden's perfect. I thought he was a decent president. But if we're going to talk about the numbers or we're going to talk about policy, basically every other country in the world was jealous of where our economy was and their recovery from COVID and where we were when we all started to bring. We also have to bear in mind that that goes, also you have to include. And the left doesn't like talking about this. Biden kept in 10 of Donald Trump's tariffs for his entire administration. He got a parable to what he's done in this administration. No, no, no. What I'm saying is that there were certain policies that Trump implemented that were maintained by the invite administration throughout his entire time. There's plenty of things that Donald Trump did and he got rid of on day one and signing executive orders that were horrible, that job, I didn't apply to it. I don't disagree with that. I'm just saying that we have to, again, hold those two things and conjoins. That's fine. But I'm just giving you the numbers of where Joe Biden

30:35was at the end of his administration. Grant it. And I think that would be an argument to say, geez, maybe I should vote Democrat this time around. No, because because it goes, it's deeper than financial. You've cared about fiscal responsibility. Right? Oh, that's impressive. That left us in a surplus. You're going to say Clinton left us in a budget. You'll get it. But the problem with that, Brian, is this a budget surplus and the national deficit still being what around what was it? It's a national, it's a national deficit. He's on down this set, which is, which is what I would love from, got us $8.2 trillion dollars in deficit. What was the deficit? What was the deficit when Clinton left office? I know he was a budget surplus. Trump got us $8.2 trillion in debt in his first administration. He's the air about $8. He's the air. That's a problem. But this is where, this is the part that the left always loses me on. When we start talking about the deficit, no Republican or Democratic president besides John Kennedy has actually everyone's attempted to attack the deficit in and of itself. Okay, but here's what I retort. I haven't retort to that. Sure. I'm not saying Democrats are perfect. I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying.

31:36However, ask Nikki Haley about this because she's setting on a debate stage when she ran for president. If we're going to compare Republicans and Democrats, there's one party that's done a better job, not a great job, but they've done a better job when it comes to the deficit. And that's the Democrats. And Nikki Haley said that on a presidential debate stage. And guess what? If you look at the stats, Republicans get us more in debt every single time they're running this country. The Democrats. That is largely due to the fact that the Republican administrations are typically involved in war. But the Democrats, which is bad, but you know, but you know, so also has to declare one of the longest war between RIMBOS and REC. That rule was, but that war was declared by whom, a Democratic and Republican Congress. This is where I get into the conversation about power protecting itself, right? And the fact that I don't know, the fact is Republicans and Democrats on either side of the aisle collude when it is time to go to war. There has not been a truly Democratic president as I completely anti-sword. There has not been a, and I'll talk about a recent memory. There's not been a Republican president that has been truly anti-war. The American economy's largest contributing factor to one of its largest contributing factors

32:37has always been maintenance of war. Okay, so let me remind you just like as you said a lot, Austin, the last ill-advised war that we got into besides this one, which I think we're gonna get into next, was the war in Iraq. We were told by the Bush administration that Saddam Hussein had weapons and a mass destruction, which was an outright lie. Part of that was because of the Israeli government. They gave us faulty intelligence as well, because it benefited Israel. Now, that one I didn't, yes, but now there are Democrats that voted for the war as well. And this was very soon after 9-11. Right. Joe Biden was one of the people that did not vote for the war. There are Democrats out there that did not vote for it. It was a travesty. We agree. We're still paying off that war. Thousands of American troops died. Hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians died. But George W. Bush was the president of the United States. Now, at least he kept the lie going and it was one lie. He said it was weapons and mass destruction. At least he went through Congress and got a vote. The guy who you voted for didn't even do that. First, he said it was about regime change.

33:38We have a more radical regime now in Iran than before. The ayatollah son, more younger and capable, I talked to a lot of Republicans yesterday, and they agree with me. This is a more radical. One day Donald Trump calls this regime smarter and less radical. The next day calls them a bunch of scumbags. Then we were told he would be a part of the new regime change. He wasn't. Then we were told, well, you know what? This is really, you know, in essence, this is about getting the nuclear codes. This is about nuclear capabilities. And now one day he's talking about, well, we got him already. We were told 10 months ago we obliterated them. Tulsi Gabbard under oath says 11 months ago. We have no reason to believe based our own intelligence that they're furthering your nuclear capabilities. It was all bullshit. Now we're in a war where the economy is suffering. You I don't have to talk to you about gas prices. The Trump, the ceasefires over again, they're bombing each other again. The straight-of-hormus is open one day. It's closed the next day. It was open and everything was fine. Now they're tolling people. This war is a part of my French, a fucking disaster.

34:39It's a disaster. And it's because Donald Trump gave in. Benjamin Netanyahu tried to get Barack Obama to bomb Iran and go to war with Iran. He tried to get Joe Biden to go to war with Iran. They did not give. They did not give. I understand we had the Afghanistan war for decades. I get that. But the last president to get us into an ill-advised war was a Republican by the name of George W. Bush. And now it's Donald Trump. Oh, yeah, Donald Trump also said he would be a peace president and he wouldn't start any new wars. This war is a disaster. It's a disaster. And why is it when, if you want to talk about the Republican Party, they want to take away healthcare, they want to conserve, that doge, and all this other bullshit. But yet, they have no problem printing money, $2 billion a day for a war. No problem. That's totally fine. But let's take that grandmother off of her healthcare. Let's take needy people off of food stamps. What is a joke? What is needed in the Republican Party is a radical revolution of values. I mean, I get it. You're not saying anything that I'm going to argue against or counteract because I'm very anti-the-erron war. Very anti-the-erron war. But this is where I'm actually glad that Trump is now

35:42ineligible to run again for the office. Because almost no. It's going to happen. Well, what's going to happen is, Mariah, and I think that people can, we can, we'll see how well this ages. Yeah. The Republican Party is going to drift more to the middle. The left is going to drift more. I'm telling you, if they want to have a chance to win, the Republican Party, both parties are going to drip slightly, ever more so slightly to the center. So I agree with that. I think that's what we need, though, as a country. Well, that's where we're going to agree. The problem is, I have been sick of war mongering since I was a child. I've been sick of this crap. You're not, I refuse to defend any of the actions you just mentioned by the Trump, the Trump, the Trump, what he said he was going to be a peace president. And anyway, first term we had, we had no new, we had no new, definitely, you believed in me. You believed in me, huh? In the second term, I would off the evidence, right? First term, we had no new wars. So you didn't think he was going to do this? No, I didn't think he was going to do this. Now, I will also say, and I've said this plenty, if I watch the government slaughter 50,000 of its own citizens, I absolutely would have done something to the leadership. I would have done something. I think that's all that's necessary for the triumph of evil is for good and made to stand by and do nothing. In the US, having the military capability

36:42that we do to be anywhere in the world within 24 hours, if I watch a government kill 50,000 of its own people, I would go in and kill that leaders up. What about us? This goes into different territory now when we're talking about the government, but it's somewhat same issue. But I think we agree on Iran, and we agree on war as a whole, you and I. So I don't think there's much to debate there, but you did talk about the government killing its own citizens. And I think that brings me to another topic, if that's okay, which is ice, immigration and ice. How about the- How about the- How about the- How about the- There's a travesty where you had this middle-aged man who was just driving to work and he was shot and killed, doesn't have any criminal offenses. All of a sudden there's nobody- Camera footage. This is by an ice agent. Yes, I didn't see- I haven't seen this. It's becoming national news now, and there's nobody-camera footage. And this poor man's family is talking about him. And I used to say, wow, he was trying to run us over. There's no evidence of that either. Houston, Louis. Yeah, and so- Yes, and Arujo. Yeah, it's looking up, Austin. It's a horrible story. So, you know, I don't want to bring Jake Lang back into this,

37:42but just in general, after the Renée Good shooting and Alex Prede, their domestic terrorists, Steven Miller called Alex Prede an assassin. Now, he did retract that two days later, and I understand that Christy Noem is gone now. The leader of the DHS is an idiot by the name of Mark Wayne Mullen, who's only life experience is taking over his father's plumbing company. You have a bunch of ice agents across the country, as you know, that some of them only have 47 hours of training. I was debating Dean Kane on this the other day, and a part of him agreed with me on this, and you won't find somebody more pro-Trump than Dean Kane. There are people out there that don't have the proper training. I think we both could agree, because I think I've gotten to know you, and I'm sure the Renée Good and the Alex Prede shootings were hard for you to watch. They were hard for me to watch. I was just discussing. Yeah, exactly, because you're a human being and you're a decent person. There are a lot of people out there that say they deserved it. And those people should, those people should, somebody should slap the taste out of the mouth. I mean, when you look at the footage and you look at the evidence, yeah, I like to pretty was not armed. He was, oh, he was armed, but he was not a threat brandish. He never brandishes weapon.

38:44I said this one, and she will be as well, but bro, he's in time. Now, each of those ice officers need to be at minimum find at best loser jobs, and the damn pinch is in the show. Jonathan Ross is a millionaire now. He's gotten, go fund me money from people on the right. He's now back working as an ice agent. There wasn't a full investigation. My understanding, there isn't full investigation, Austin, and the Alex Prede thing. Yeah. My understanding. But Renée Good, you're supposed to investigate blood splatter. They were supposed to out on top. With wet and cash Patel, canceled, put a halt to the investigation. Now it's opted. Now with Renée Good, what I did see, I saw the, there were two camera angles that made the news, and there was one I saw, which was the iPhone camera footage of her vehicle making actual contact with the officers. Little contact. There was some. That one I haven't, I'll be honest, I wouldn't need to continue to look into that, and I'll have to follow up with the following. I could talk to you about that though, and ask you some questions, because I've studied that. So, Renée, so Jonathan Ross has a cell phone in one hand, and a gun in the other. Can you name me one law enforcement agency that would say that's what you're supposed to do, and that's proper protocol? I, do you have a body cam?

39:45I don't know that you would ever need. You can't, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're not supposed to do that. Where are you, when, when Renée Good's last words were, I'm not mad at you, bro. That was the moment where any good trained person in law enforcement say, okay, let's have a conversation. Now here's what we're gonna need, need, do, do, do, man. We're gonna need to get out of the car. Yeah, law enforcement is supposed to be great and comfortable for us. So the back of the car, which you're not supposed to do, then walks to the front of the car and stops. By the way, he wasn't injured. People can lie all they want to. I'm not saying you said that. He never fell down even. He still kept the cell phone in his hand and gun in the other. And then he leaves the scene of the crime, which again, you're not supposed to do. He wasn't injured. There's no evidence that he was injured. There were people saying, oh, he had internal bleeding. Oh, really, where's the evidence of that? The next day, there's pictures of him moving his stuff in his home. So he wasn't injured. It's all bullshit. And after the shooting, what's the first thing that he says? Fucking bitch is what he calls her. Calls her a fucking bitch. And then he walks over to her body. We have learned that her part was still pumping for eight minutes.

40:46He doesn't check her pulse. He doesn't try any life-saving techniques. He casually walks back to his car, make sure he puts his mask up because he doesn't want people recognizing him and he drives away. There were so many proto calls that were broken there, but here's the thing I'll land my plane here, Austin. If there was an independent investigation, which there should have been, and if that independent investigation found that Jonathan Ross didn't break any laws, then I would have to live with that. Kyle Rittenhouse had the opportunity to defend himself in a court of law. I don't call him a murder. I call him a moron. He should have never been there, which he admits to. He's an idiot, but I don't call him a murderer because he had his day in court. He had the opportunity to defend himself, a jury found in Occulte. Jonathan Ross, there was never a full investigation into him. He's back on the streets and he's now a millionaire. I have a serious problem with that. That's insane. Giving the information you just gave me, that's something I'm going to look into and probably cover now myself because that is fucking ridiculous. I mean, that's just in fucking defense. I don't, yeah, what I don't do is I don't just watch one video and make assumptions. Right. I watched about three or four videos. I thought the New York Times did a great job

41:47in breaking down the video frame by frame. I do not believe she was intentionally trying to harm the officer because before she moves forward, you see the wheel turning. If you're trying to hurt an officer, why would you turn the wheel? And so I've only seen, like I said, I've saw three angles, and the one that I'm talking about was, in fact, what we just discussed, the iPhone camera footage from the officer. So if that's something that I now would look into, even more myself, because that's the thing. And he shoots her from the side after the first shot. When the car is already trying to get away, he continues to fire bullets through the window into her face. And I'm like, and the Alex bread thing to me is just as bad. You could even argue even worse in that here's an unarmed man whose last words were, are you okay, man? He's trying to help a woman who was just pushed to the ground. Okay, now listen, what I have done, what Renee Good did, and in the middle of the street with the car, no, what I have done with Alex Prede have done with a gun on me, being anywhere near ice, no, but that doesn't mean you're serving to be killed. And I'm as pro gun as you've been. But it doesn't mean you deserve to be killed. And Alex Prede was kicked in beaten for a few seconds there.

42:50He was pushed to the ground. He never brandished his weapon, and they took his weapon from him. And then five to 10 seconds later, they shot him in the back. And to me, that's murder, which is murder. That is murder because I mean, in self-defense law in any state, and even my home state of Georgia, when someone turns it back from you, you're right. So then it's like, why can't I have more conversations like this with Republicans? Why are there so few Republicans like you that are willing to admit this stuff? Well, why? Because there is money in rhetorical retardation. That's what I was saying. There's money in that. I mean, there's money, there's money in ignoring facts. I mean, and this is, I'm not going to, I will say that this exists on the left and the right, but it's more prevalent in the right now today because the right is in, because the right is in office. Because I guarantee you the next administration, if we get a Democrat, and if the left starts defending nonsense, we'll see, they'll be like, oh, it's a problem. There is this sensationalization of bullshit and certain people get paid to shut up.

43:51And they have selective attention spans. And we're talking about reverses. Right, it's so unfortunate. It's so fucking cut and dry. I refuse to be one of those people. And if, you know, the thing is, the reason that many of people on the right will say I'm not a true Republican is because I refuse to cap dance for the Republican. Well, you're not a cultist. That's the way I would describe that. And that's, that's, you know, there's a lot of cultists out there. So I saw people here at Freedom Fest. And yesterday you have Adam Corolla on stage with Nick Shirley. And they're talking about how Dr. Fauci should be arrested and thrown in jail. And he got a bunch of people clapping. And I'm like, what a bunch of fucking idiots in this crowd here. I'm sorry, fucking idiots. Well, it was funny. I've been reading those files. I do think it's interesting, Brian. I have to say, I think it's hilariously interesting that Fauci gets a blanket pardon from the Biden administration, whereas Tulsi Gabbard releases three, and the thing was about 10,000 plus pages. Yeah. And that apparently Fauci was aware of the gain of gain of function research that was going on during COVID.

44:52But the question is, is that a crime? Technically speaking, I would say it's, I don't know that it's a crime, but it's a minimum worthy of a sort of a fucking investment. These people think, these people think that Dr. Fauci intentionally created this virus, okay? And the people, I think he intentionally created it, but I think if you, what I would only say this, it appears based on what Tulsi Gabbard the way Dabbard framed it. Is it Fauci had knowledge of a potential leak of this from the lab? I don't know if it's true. I'm still reading the files. That's what I'm going to tell you now. It is true. He should have, that explains why he got a blanket pardon and he should be processed. Well, I don't speak for Joe Biden, but who also partens his son, but I will say you had it with Niagara Republicans for years that we're saying they were going to go after Dr. Fauci, they were going to go after Hunter Biden. So look, I thought it was obviously millions of people died in this country. It was horrible. There are still COVID deniers all over the place that still don't think the virus was real. They think there are chips and vaccines. It's all a bunch of nonsense. But Dr. Fauci's worked for four different administrations.

45:53He's been infectious disease actor. It doesn't mean he's perfect, right? A lot of mistakes were made. Right. But that was a very unfortunate time for this country. I hope we never have to deal with that again. I give Donald Trump an F. He turned his COVID press conferences into campaign rallies talking about injecting yourself at disinfectant. He was many. He's also rare, Brian. So if you believe that. Oh, he was come on. Trump is radical as he is. He was not telling Americans to inject themselves with fucking. So let me ask you a question. My hearing a COVID press conference where 5,000 people are dying a day. Even if that was true, by the way, he didn't smile. There was nobody in that room that smiled. Even Donald Trump. He was saying was we need what he was saying to be fair. He was saying we need to look at the technology that did a lie, Saul, see if you could have a human DNA application. That's a statement that you can make in private. But he said he was just joking, which meant he knew he f**ked up. And let me ask you a question. Do you think it's appropriate if that is true? Which by the way, I am not willing to concede that. Well, let's just say for arguments say he was just making a joke about injecting yourself with disinfectant. You think at a time when we're losing three to five thousand people a day, it's appropriate for the president of the United States when we're talking about medical stuff and people dying to make a joke?

46:57You can argue about whether or not he was politically appropriate all day long. No, no, no, no, no, no, it's just appropriate. No, we'll say, we'll say, we'll say no, but again, he was also, Trump has a unique way of trying to lighten the mood even the midst of a crisis. I, I, I, whether we've been at the timing there, whether we agree with him or not, right? That's a matter of personal preference on that one. So I need that timing. I don't think so. I gave him credit for Operation Warp Speed, but he's the only living president that got the vaccine privately. He wasn't a part of that video because he knew a lot of his supporters were so anti-vaccine. He and Melania Trump got vaccinated. For the most part, the vaccines were pretty safe. Obviously, every vaccine has its disadvantage. And here it's risk. Yeah, of course, of course. But I just look at where the country is at right now. I didn't get the vaccine by the people. I did not get some of the diabetic and you know, two thirds of the country have comorbidities. But you know, I look at where this country is at right now, Austin. And I mean, maybe we could talk a little bit about that, but we talked a little bit about the economy. We talked about the war in Iran. And I say to myself, in this year and a half, it's been a little bit more than that, right?

47:58Yeah. What has he done well for the American people? Nothing. Inflation, we said this to start the show. Inflation is through the roof right now. And Trump doesn't care about it. The American dollar is losing his purchasing power. He doesn't care about it. This is the propagation of the war machine and I don't like it. You know, I'm waiting on, like I said, he's still in office. We have three years left of him just about. Yeah. Uh, he could turn around on any moment. I hold out hope for him. I don't know whether or not there's going to happen. We got to, we got to wait and see what's going to happen. We, I can't predict the future. But right now, Trump gets an F for me on, on his handling of the United Interesting. Last time I talked to you, you would not have said that. Well, no, because at the time he hadn't done all the crepes, knowing right at the time. The warning, the Austin, I tried to warn you. You get, you did in Colorado. I'll never forget. What it's, it's, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, I pride honesty and truth telling over anything else. So I think that's really important. If you're, if you're fucking up on the promises you made, and then I have to give you some pushback on that, though, you pride yourself on truthfulness and telling the truth. You knew that you voted for a guy that is a virtual liar.

49:00You knew that, Austin. Well, all politicians lie to somebody. Oh, come on, man. You're telling me that you can tell and find name me and other politician that lies at the level that Donald Trump does every day. Last week, he just said, Iran is begging for a deal and they're smart people. Yesterday, he calls them a bunch of scumbags. I mean, every day is some different with this guy. So you, well, whether we like it or not, when we start investigating all politicians, you're going to find that they've lied somewhere. I'm not denying what you're saying. All I'm saying is Trump lies more than any president we've ever had. I would disagree. I think, I think his, and really his lies get called out just faster because this is, he's the most, they're easily provable lies that he talks about every day. Well, you know, you're laughing because you know, I'm right. That's fucking hilarious. I can't, that's fucking hilarious. He, I think it's just because he talks more than the average politician on the internet. That's more bullshit than any other politician. That's what he does. That's, that's really what we're talking about here. I think, I think that the president of the United States has told quite a few,

50:00quite a, he's had quite a few egregious statements. Fear that he's made. I think that it's, it's, there comes a point where I wish someone would take his keyboard away from him on, on social. I think he said this too. If he wasn't on Twitter last go around when he lost a Biden and he's just stayed off a Twitter and he stopped attacking people, he probably would have been reelected in 2020, I think. Possibly. But I've never seen any politician with thinner skin than Donald Trump. He literally has nicknames for everybody that he disagrees with. It's so weird. He's got wacky, he wants to be loved by everybody. Well, there's, there's a touch of, and I think this is true of all politicians to some degree. There's a touch of narcissism and all of them to, to some degree, which is a natural, which is a natural thing, but he's a little, he's a little different. He's a little different. He wakes up in the morning. He puts on eight layers of orange makeup and his girl who can't prove that Ryan, you have got proof of five hair transplants. Oh, fake tan. He looks like a clown. They wouldn't even hire him at circus service. I don't think this is Terry's fake. I've said, I've said, I've stood 15 free for him at the White House.

51:03I think his tan is here. Well, I use this term and I'm not going to use it to call you this because I do not think you're a cultist, but I believe that there are still a large portion of people who voted for him. Maybe at least half. And I call them Trump mushroom goblers. Oh my god. And the reason why I do is because they wear the knee pads 24-7. Unlike you, they're unwilling to call him out for anything he does. Anything he says wearing the knee pads 24-7 is a gregious work. It is funny. It is. But the people that I really struggle to talk to and I talk to a lot of them on whether it be Pierce Morgan or other networks is that they can't call out Donald Trump for anything. Those are getting paid. And I agree with, right, correct. They're getting paid. Let's be honest. They're getting paid. Well, if you case out of them, some of them are, the names are getting paid. But I'm talking about regular citizens. They're not a cult. Oh, yeah. It's a cult, man. Yeah. You're right. The people that I debate like the Jack Bissolibix of the world and the Benny Johnson's of the Pierce Morgan's, they're getting paid. I agree with you. Yeah. But the problem is there are people that are so brainwashed that watch Fox News all day

52:06is that they buy into it and they can't criticize Trump for anything. Everything's Joe Biden's fault. But this is why, you know, we might agree on this, man. I really wish that we could abolish political parties in this country. And I would be very proud of that because this whole faction bullshit serves to divide because what we're literally, the idea, they order that I get them like picking the lesser of two evils. It's still not a good system. Austin, you might be surprised to hear this. I don't disagree with you. I've been saying this for a long time. You know what I think it is? And I think we're going to agree on this. It's kind of like your team and the other team, like a football game. And the problem is the two worst words in this country, in my opinion, are Republican and Democrat because too many people make decisions based on what's good for their party, rather than what's good for the country. Yeah. And so I completely agree with you. I also think it shouldn't be an electoral college. I think everything should be popular vote. I got into a debate with Tim Pull about this last week. Now we would disagree there, I think. I think one vote in Maine should be just as important as a vote in California or Las Vegas or anywhere else. No, I agree with you there.

53:06That makes sense in theory. But the problem is is that what I think that would do and the founders kind of had this same thought process, the most popular states would just dominate the fucking elections. Now to hell with going to make it. No, what does it matter what state you're in? You could be a Republican. You could be a Democrat. One vote should count just as much as another. Well, because then you get into political ideology because right now what we call the left, like let's vote more of the country I would argue in states like California's large sectors of Georgia now. He more outlier Texas. They lean more heavily to the left and that sort of disenfranch, that has the potential to disenfranchise the voting representation for the smaller states, Maine. To me, that uh, New Hampshire. To me, to me, to me, to what I like about this is that if you're living in Maine or New Hampshire and you're living in California, your vote counts just as much as that other vote. I don't want it to be this state means more than that state. You know why? Because people are going to be campaigning in certain states and they're going to ignore other states. Oh, I'm not going to win there. I'm not going to campaign there. Now I guess you can make the argument the other way as well. That's what I'm saying. But but it can go both ways. That's a point I think. I think the electoral college as it is is fine because it forces candidates and it generates

54:10the ability for Republicans an opportunity to win. I know Donald Trump on the popular vote last go around, but name me a Republican president that would have won if not for the electoral college would not have won. You couldn't find one in the last 40 years. Reagan. Right, right, right. Exactly. You couldn't find one in the last 40 years. So it benefits Republicans. It does not benefit Democrats popular vote. By the way, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote when she lost. When she lost, she tried to claim Russia stole the election. Well, I'm not I wouldn't go as far. It literally said that on she called him an illegitimate president as I call him illegitimate president. And she did say, you know, one day if you run for president, you could have the election stolen from you. Russia didn't flat out say the election was rigged and stolen from me. She didn't make that statement, but I will say he is a legitimate president. You know, when I thought he was illegitimate, when he attacked John McCain for being a POW and he said he didn't respect him because he was a POW, that should have been disqualifying and he should have been an illegitimate president then. Yeah, but that's where you get into the freedom of speech clause. Like the president still was sent as an he still has a right to say what he wants. He has a right.

55:11Well, you can't obviously threaten people. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater. No, but but he didn't he didn't threaten John McCain. He said he didn't like that. I don't like that statement to be to be a politician and to be an elected official. And if you're running for office, I personally believe when you attack somebody's service as being a POW and by the way, John McCain didn't want to leave his soldiers behind. He I tortured for four years. He was to make a. Well, I don't agree with the statement from me, by the way. I was never saying I'm just giving you my opinion where if you make a statement like that, it should be disqualifying. No, because it cuts it cuts at the fundamental, the purpose of the first amendment, you should have it freedom. The freedom of speech, uh, amendment is not about the speech you like. It's literally to protect the speech we don't like. And I'm very I'm a very pro speech speech guy. Rokhan and I talked about this even on on. There always should be consequences for your words you use. Now, when you talk about free speech Austin, that pertains to the government. The government can't get involved. The government can't get arrest you. For example, if Jake Lang is on a public sidewalk in Las Vegas,

56:14and he has a sign that says I hate N word people, which is by the way, disgusting, but and he probably would do that. Freedom of speech, meaning the government can't get involved in arrest you. However, that doesn't mean there are still not consequences for your words. We could be talking about your job. You represent whatever company you're working for. We could be talking about a number of different other issues that lie into it. As you know, freedom of speech pertains to government. I have this argument debate with people about social media. Elon Musk could have the office platform tomorrow because he doesn't like what my face looks like. But I think that's wrong because I think the section to 30 of the Q and Minotaur cases agreement should not be the internet needs to be treated like a public square. But it's a good telephone and it should be. That's why I'm pro the revising of section. If you have priceless businesses on the internet, how do you do that? Here's how phone companies can't censor our conversations just because they don't like what we're saying. The internet any any platform any social media platform with a million plus users should be treated like the public sector. To your point about freedom not being free from consequences, allow people to say what they actually believe let people's jobs see that they're actually a racist bigot.

57:17Let the bosses deal with them after the fact. But to censor anybody based on purely speech. Oh, we just say so. What are you talking about? Social media? Social media specifically. To your to your point. Social media platform that has more than a million plus active monthly users should not get section 230 protections to be treated like a publisher. Okay. But that's not that that's that's that's that that would apply to restaurants. It would apply to. It was when everyone. Yeah. Okay. But when you own a business, the business reserves the right not to provide service. Example, if I walk into a restaurant wearing a Joe Biden hat and the owner of the restaurant says a Trump supporter, he can look me and say, I'm not providing you service because I don't believe you're with your political belief. I mean, like they used to do black people back in the 60s. They didn't want to give a service just because the color of us skin and it's wrong. And what do we do? We've we pass the law. This is this you cannot do. You can't discriminate against race or religion, but that's not what we're talking about now. We're talking about a ideology. Okay, but are we going to act like Brian? You can't tell me that religion and policy religion doesn't influence people's political beliefs. Religion shouldn't politics is literally downstream of religion.

58:18Yeah, because everyone in this world operates off of a real opposition. You don't want to give a private business to authority to not provide service to somebody. Not purely based on their political views. No. Okay, so they could just lie and make something up them. What do you mean? What about your shirt? If they don't like the shirt that you're in. Anything anything that does not anything that is of that is non-violent, you shouldn't have to be able to what about if somebody wants a gay couple wants a cake to be made? I remember that example. No, that interferes with religion. Okay, but the Supreme Court disagreed with you. They ruled that and I think Supreme Court's wrong there. 100%. The fact that the matter is and this is the quality share consistent. What the Supreme Court's fucking wrong? At the end of the day, this is why this is another reason I'm out of no bomb a fan. When Barack Obama and the Democratic establishment who pushed for the repealing of the defensive marriage act, the reason that they did that was because they wanted to slowly strip away what it meant to have America be as close to an actual Christian nation as possible. I don't believe the marriage is between a man and a man and a man and I never will. I don't believe marriage is between a woman and a woman and I never will. It literally, you had to change the definition of marriage to include something that was never the original intent in the Christian format.

59:21So that's what the Supreme Court did. I think it's a very slippery slope that you're going to, though. And I'll give you another example. No, I'm not a married man. Let's just say I was for a moment and some guy walks into my restaurant and I know that he's slept with my wife. I own the restaurant. I don't want to serve that guy. I don't want that guy in my place of business. I don't want his money. I don't want him there because it emotionally, it troubles me, right? So I go up to him and I say, hey, listen, I'm not going to provide you service. You know the reason why. Have a nice day. I don't want to take that right away from me. A private citizen. Yeah, I'm sure allowing a private, a private incident between two individuals to have. So if it was a impone, the business, I should have that right to make that choice as these business right to serve the public. And you have a duty to serve the public. And that's where you get into when your business practices, interferes with what we call interest state commerce, which is something I had to bring up the chat. O'Jex and I'll miss very short, by the way, that is a problem. That was the chief argument that was used by William Henry Harrison to get the early civil rights legislation passed. There are certain things that when you open, when you own an operating business,

1:00:22you have a duty to serve everyone, not discriminate against. Then I always say, I'm saying they're never going to pass that. The Supreme Court's never going to rule in that way. It's I'm just telling you, I don't know. Give me 15, I told you, if I run for prison 15 years, I'll try. I think I don't think that's ever going to happen. I get section 230 revised people. I might do it. I don't know. So if somebody walks into this, um, freedom festival, yeah, wearing a bunch of Nazi symbolism, you don't think they should be kicked out. No, you know why? Because nobody's going to deal with them. Who showed me anybody, you're going to get attention. Anybody sure, uh, I'm not mostly getting attention every day, Brian. Show me anybody in this building that you actually think would entertain or even want to sit on an innocent, a Nazi, I mean, not the problem. Maybe another example. Let's just assume from your family. Have a business? No. Okay. Let's assume your family or your parents own a mom and pop restaurant. Sure. Let's assume that Jake laying walks in because your parents, the N word, you think your parents would want to serve that person? Well, but see that we can classify as hate speech. There's, there's limits. You could put confined limits on it. So my slope is a slippery. It stops at a certain point.

1:01:22We call these on the N word. I don't have to serve you now. You now you now you have insulted me. Now you've done something sleeping with my wife is insulting. Is insulting. Yeah, but he slept it with your wife. I don't made it very. You see what I'm saying? There I see where you're trying to do it. There are certain. By the way, of course I agree. I wouldn't want your parents to serve me there. I would tell him to get the fuck out of my restaurant. It's okay. But if somebody walks in there with the Naziism stuff and and Nazi flags and all that, I would also say get the fuck out because that's hate that would say. Hate speech is different than you and I have been having a different terms of opinion about what marriage is. Hate speech is something completely different than you and I thinking Republican should all or Republican's a Democrat. What if I think that and I'm not necessarily saying this, but if somebody wears a mega hat, I think they're a hateful person. That's my ideology. I think like that. I'm not saying I necessarily do. Isn't it my right as a private citizen owning a private business to kick that person out of that's the way I believe is the sort of the public? That's my belief system. Yeah, but you can't prove one. You can't prove that belief system just because you think that me that wearing a mega hat someone could be offended the fact that I wear

1:02:22a mega hat. Somebody can call you the N word and he's ignorant and he doesn't understand how hurtful the word is. Right. And maybe in his personal life, maybe he treats black people okay. Right. I mean, I'm just I'm playing devil's advocate here. That's all somebody could do something horrible and call you the N word and not understand because they're so stupid how hurtful that word is. I mean, all I'm simply saying is every situation, you could always go deep into it and I could be a very slippery slope. We'd have a lot of lawsuits every day. We'd have thousands and thousands of lawsuits and I think I'd be heptate and chaos. I would I would love to see every lawsuit litigated. Who gives a shit? This is America. I mean, we love it a so happy environment anyway. If you got the money, lawyer, fair enough. Sean, what do we got next? We can end off with a should government policy be built off Christian values? Oh, you got 15 minutes left. Interesting. Oh, that's a great cause. Yeah, that's what I said. I'll have Austin start. Um, should ask the question again. Should government policy be built on Christian values? Absolutely. 100%. It because what if we look at if we look at Christianity at its core, take what Jesus himself said,

1:03:24do what to others as you with them doing the you. He's the founder of the Christian religion. Why why shouldn't we build laws based off that principle? Well, I think we have a saying in this country that I think everybody should abide by and I also understand that you're a religious person and I'm not. But we have a saying in this country, the separation between church and state. I don't think policy should be made based on religion. Now, I also believe that you have the right to your faith. Um, and you saw me where we're separation of church and state is in the constitution. I didn't say it was in the constitution or the declaration. I didn't I didn't say or any law that we have. I didn't we trust is on our money by the way, right? I didn't say that. Uh, right. There is no real separation. Talking to somebody that I said there was a saying. Right. I didn't say it was in the constitution. Right. Or actually practiced. I'm not a religious person. Right. I would also not consider myself an atheist. I don't go to synagogue. I don't go to church. I did when I was younger. I hated it. I don't like it. I don't like religion. But I do believe that there is a higher power. At least it's a faith. But the difference between me and a lot of religious people is this. I don't know whether heaven or hell exists.

1:04:26I don't know for sure whether God exists. It is a faith. And I respect other people's faith. The difference is I don't tell other people how they should think. If you believe in the tooth fairy, you can believe in the tooth fairy. If you believe in God or, uh, you know, anything, um, you have the right to do that. We have freedom of religion in this country. Right. I just don't live my life based on that. I hope that there's life after that. But you live your life according to presuppositions, right? We all do. I live my life based on the way my family raised me. All right. That is my, that is based around presuppositions. All, all human beings operate according to presuppositions. My presupposition is that is, is operating within the confines of whatever is in most and accord is with objective reality. What is the most objectively true about my religion is Jesus did live Jesus did die. He is the most well-attested historical figure from his time period in human history. His teachings alone have informed Western society specifically and the globe that Republican party was not abide by. I didn't actually anything about the Republican party. I'm just, I'm leaving them alone.

1:05:27It's because now you're drawing that, that is now already hairy. Because what I'm saying is that the founder of my religion actually physically lived. He actually physically died to this day. His body has never been recovered. And he gave us a simple principle through which to live, which is due unto others that which you should do want to have. I understand what you're saying. So, so that and that philosophy is what led to the abolishment of slavery in the West. It led to the greatest fight for equal rights and the most successful fight for equal rights in this country via the civil rights movement. And his example if followed to the tea would produce better results than what we're seeing now from either the Republicans or the Democrats. I agree that his example probably would and that was to my point. I'm not a religious person, but if you're going to talk about Jesus' teachings about helping the poor, helping people that are in need, the Republican party has a history of not doing that. And if you're going to talk about free handouts and abuse, sure we can get into that conversation. And while Jesus was also against very lazy people, he I mean, there's literally a whole pair of right about what happens if you're lazy and you're poor. But with Austin, let's talk about this.

1:06:27And this goes into, you know, healthcare. 49% of people that are working right now can't afford health care. 37% of people that are working right now are not even offered health care. These are not, I'm not saying there aren't lazy people out there. But the people that I'm talking about right now are not lazy people. I don't want to live in a country and this would, I think, go to Jesus' teachings, where people have to work three or four jobs to get by. If you're working full time in any industry, you should have the right and you should be able to afford health care. No matter what that health care plan is. I agree. So I guess that goes to what we were just talking about. And in the big and beautiful bill up to 20 million people are losing their health care. I think that's a big, beautiful bill was a big piece of shit. But, but, well, that's refreshing to hear. But it can't, but again, because the largest tax cuts went to the top one percent. You had thousands of losing Medicare. Right. You had, you agree that that's against Jesus' teachings. The top taxes for the top one percent. You agree with that? Well, Jesus doesn't make any universal indictment against being wealthy or be. He would not be okay with that. I'm not going to mind. I'm not going to make that claim.

1:07:28I don't believe, I don't believe Jesus would. Jesus never meant no because Abraham was a very rich man. Solomon was a very wealthy man. Noah was a wealthy man on his day. So I'm not Jesus never made a single indictment against what he did. No, what no, it doesn't hurt the poor to be rich. What hurts the poor is the poor is the poor's of wealth. It hurts the poor to give the biggest tax breaks to the top one percent, which was a hundred billion dollars. Well, the confines of the big beautiful bill. Yeah, yeah. And I'm specifically saying, Jesus of Nazareth never made a single indictment against being wealthy. That wasn't in the big and beautiful bill. He literally, one of the first things he did was implement the top one percent giving the biggest tax breaks in America. And I think this is why Trump is not in my brand. I don't like Trump's brand of republicanism with that because let's be clear to your point about help on the poor to your point about health care, people forget that Richard Nixon's administration was this close to passing a universal basic income plan. It would have acted as a negative income tax. It passed in the house. It failed in the Senate. Why? Because it didn't get enough democratic support ironically. And that's a Republican giving universal basic income, which is hilarious, by the way. And I would I'm pro that. We get back to that sort of republicanism.

1:08:28That's actually much more questions. So my question to you is, what if we don't? What if JD Vance runs for president of the United States? He'll probably lose. And I agree with you. But what if he doesn't? What if Maga continues? Then I'll tell the country to wait till 2035 when I'm old enough to run for president. And I and fulfill my dream. Will you vote for JD Vance? It depends. What about a guy like a John Ossoff who was a moderate Democrat? He always not pro is wrong. Why? He's not Christian. He's Jewish. What are you talking about? Of course he's not Christian. I'm not going to vote a non-Christian into office. Even if it means it's a guy like a Donald Trump. I would vote for myself before I vote for if they don't. Donald Trump a true Christian. He don't Trump is not a Christian. No. So why did you vote? So you're just telling me you're capable of not voting for a true Christian. You voted for Donald Trump. Why wouldn't you vote for John Ossoff? Because Donald Trump is the only president that established a white at the time. And he did this in his last most recent administration. He established a faith office. He in an interfaith office specifically focused on targeting on going after people

1:09:28that targeted Christians in their posts and online. He specifically spoke out against the slaughter of 3,000 Christians in Nigeria. And he actually sent aid to those Christians that were being slaughtered. That's why he's targeted people that look like you. How? How? How is he? We just talked about the big and beautiful bill. There are a lot of African Americans in this country that are living in poverty. They don't have health care. They don't have food stamps. That's an indirect, he indirectly, no. He didn't, I won't say he targeted anyone. What he did, he was targeted, he was funded on his life. He targeted when the thousands of discrimination lawsuits in New York City, where they, he had to pay them. He paid them off because he didn't want black people living in his, he know he once also said that he didn't want black people counting his money and Atlantic City wanted Jews counting his money. This is a guy who's, it was been a racist his whole life. His father was arrested at a clan rally. That's not true. That's not true. That was the bond. That was the bond. Yeah, that was the bond. Yeah, that was that was that was that you can check that. Yeah, friend Trump was never arrested at the clan rally. That's not true. You can check that. It was a protest where there was white, white, a white wing extremist. He actually was. Well, arrested May 31st, 1927.

1:10:30Was it because he was a clan member or he didn't say it was a clan member. Was that a clan rally? I think we needs New York. Yes. And what he, what does it say? He was arrested. Refusing to disperse. Why do you think he was there? Why do you think Fred Trump was that got land rally? Oh, so they didn't drop the trial. He was okay. So why do you, I didn't say what I was asking for the, I said it was accurate. He was arrested at a clan rally. I didn't say he was a clan member. People get arrested and they have the charges. Okay, that's a misnomer. Okay, he was arrested though at a clan rally. The family has a history of being racist. Did Fred Trump also help, if I'm not mistaken, didn't Fred Trump also help Jews ever being persecuted if I'm not mistaken? Well, I was talking about racism. I wasn't talking about Jews, but they were racist people. But Donald Trump has a history. And the history is very ugly. And it's ugly towards me. Well, he also gave a homeless, well, he let a homeless woman stay in Trump's tower for like four or five months. So he helped Jennifer Hudson, when she was flint broke. He gave thousands of dollars with the loans to stomach judge Joe Brown, who's my adopted grandfather's friend, to help start the business. They happen to be my color or darker.

1:11:32So I'm not going to make the claim Trump's a racist. I can't do that because no racist is going to do what he did for so many black people. Or my friend, Michaela Montgomery, that he gave a job to, by the way. So I can't, so my opinion on that is this as follows. If we're talking about it, and I'm going to give you an example, why I disagree. We can talk about somebody like, I don't know, Jeffrey Dahmer. And we could, we could hypothetically say, well, at one point Jeffrey Dahmer worked at a soup kitchen. He wasn't such a bad guy. I can only go by your actions and the things you do. And I'm sure there are things in Donald Trump's life where he does some nice things to help people. I don't black, by the way. Okay, but that doesn't take away the horrible things that he's done, the horrible things that he said, the way he's treated black people when it came to his buildings in New York City, the things he said that are on the record. So I'm not going to sit here and say, well, he did a couple good things for Jennifer Hudson and some other people. So he can't be racist. It's kind of like the white guy who says, I know black people, I have a black person, that's my friend. So I can't be a racist. I'm just not going to play that. Yeah, but he's a repeated instances of him doing things that are extremely helpful to him. He's a person that I actually know and personally, he's a repeated instances of things that he's done

1:12:33that are horrible to people that look like you. Human beings are not perfect. But while history's being read, it's also still being written. So while he may have done some things that could have been seen as racist, he also did things that were not. So I can't make the claim that Donald Trump is a not, isn't it? Well, I think Trump is good with him. Is he treat women with respect? Is he good with women? You're a religious man. Not with all women. I know. Is any one woman he hasn't cheated on? One ex-wife. I have the, we know you're going to bring up the stormy, and that was, was her name something? I could bring up every woman he's ever been with that he's cheated on. That was the point. And that's why I was trying to bring it up. Bragg's about grabbing women by the pussy. This is a guy who literally, yes, he did have sex with stormy Daniels and then he paid her off 130 grand. His own ex-wife in court documents in a deposition claimed that he raped her. And then what did he do? He paid her off. This is a guy, his entire life who has mistreated women. He's named, and I know we're going to agree on this. The Epstein foul stuff, the cover up from top to bottom, who was, he was once best friends with Jeffrey Epstein. Look at the Maxwell treatment, the Gislaan Maxwell treatment,

1:13:35being in a club met facility. He calls people like you and me stupid for even bringing up Jeffrey Epstein. It's either one of two things. Let's just be honest here with Donald Trump. It's one of two things. Either he is a pedophile enabler or he is a pedophile himself. I'm not going to make a claim for either one of those because we're not going to ignore the fact that he did, he did, he did, he did, not rat on, but he did leak information to the FBI on Epstein in 2006. He kicked them out of, he's well known and well documented. He kicked them out of Mar-a-Lago the second that he made a pass at a waitress to 16 year old daughter. All of those things are documented. I'm not going to say Trump is a pedophile enabler. He tore Marjorie Taylor Green that he didn't want to release the rest of the Epstein fouls because he didn't want to hurt some of his friends. Okay. Howard Lutnik was on Epstein Island. He lied about it. Many of Donald Trump's friends. So as I say again, it is either he is protecting pedophiles or he is one himself. There are credible allegations in the Epstein fouls. What I mean by credible, a very underage young girl where the FBI interviewed and she claimed that Donald Trump sexually abused her.

1:14:36So why are you, why are the, that's true? Because I have to read that deal as a file. That's true. Yeah, I'm still reading them myself right now as we speak. But why have we not brought in vestidates? I will answer that for you. To this day and it's a good question. To this day, there are only two people that have been held to account in the entire Epstein fouls. A numerous children that were molested. It's Jeffrey Epstein and Jisling Maxwell. Why? Because like Donald Trump, there are a lot of people in the Epstein fouls that look like me that don't look like you that are extremely wealthy white people that are very powerful people and they have been protected because of their power. I personally believe Donald Trump is one of those people and or he knows many of his friends that are in there as well. Do you know howard Latinica guy in his administration? Just a couple months ago, said he was never on Epstein Island and then they released the files. So what would, what would it take? My question always goes back to this. Yeah, what would it take to get the president of the United States? Because I'll probably say it. I've said if he's guilty, I've said if he's guilty, throw his airs out like this. Here's why every single Democrat in DC several months ago, every one of them voted to release all the files.

1:15:38They've said time and time again, we don't care if there are Democrats and Republicans in there, we're taking a stand, release the files. There are many Republicans that are Donald Trump cucks for lack of a better term that are not willing to vote that way because they would rather protect Donald Trump because Donald Trump wants them to vote a certain way. And if they're doing that, they're spider arts. They are. And each of them are spineless. Listen, I've been very consistent on the Epstein files. I don't care whether you're left or right. I survive by the way. I don't know that we get disagreement there. If Trump is guilty, and I'll say that again, if Trump is guilty of doing anything with children, throw his ass in, and any Republican, any, what I believe is if a Democrat wins in 2028, we release everything. There are still three million files that Donald Trump and his administration refused to release. Now, there was a recent court case, I think, too, where somebody, I think it was a journalist took the US to court. Tell us a clown. He's an absolute clown. You want alcoholic, farmer drug addicted clown. That's that we still never got the missing minute either from the Epstein for why it's interesting. Why do you think that is?

1:16:39Because it's a cover of the government's cover. I only die under one administration. Was he, was it Trump? What was it Biden? I don't remember. It was it was it 2019 that he died or 2020? It was not under, you can let that up and I'm 100%. It was on under Joe Biden. Also, just like Maxwell, one was she prosecuted under Trump under Joe Biden. Oh, she was under Joe Biden. So Joe Biden under Joe Biden, Maxwell was prosecuted under Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein allegedly committed suicide. I find all this stuff very interesting and now all of a sudden Donald Trump is calling us stupid for talking about it. Notice how uncomfortable he gets when you ask him about Epstein. It gets very uncomfortable, doesn't he? Yeah, he does close this off. That's his hooker tail. That is a, let's make some closing statement. Okay, I'll say this in closing. Also, I think you're a good guy. I think you're honest. And while we don't agree on everything, I would never vote it for Trump. I say that I give you credit for admitting the obvious. There are too many people in this country that have voted the way you voted,

1:17:39that are not willing to admit what you admit. It's better for the country. Now, one could argue, Ryan, what are you doing good for the country? You call people a bunch of Trump mushroom goblers and you yell at people for a living. Oh yeah, but I also criticize the left. I think Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tileb are despicable human beings. I think Chuck Schumer needs to go. There are Democrats. Obviously, Swalwell is a scumbag. I'm glad the Democrats did the right thing. And I had criticism for Joe Biden. He didn't have common enough time to campaign. I think it's very important, no matter who you were. And I'm a registered independent, but I lean to the left on social issues. It's important to be able to criticize both parties. And I'm glad that since last time we talked, I think you've changed a little bit. And I think that's refreshing to see. I think we need more people like you that are willing to call out the obvious, which you're willing to do. And I think we're better in America because of that. And I would be more inclined as an American to one day vote for somebody like you knowing that even though we disagree on some issues,

1:18:39that number one, you're not a bad guy. Number two, you're a family man. And number three, you're willing to work with people that disagree with you. Those are three very important things. And those three things Donald Trump does not have. He's not capable of having those things. He's a terrible family man. He's not willing to work on the other side. He's never willing to admit he was wrong, which you are. Those are really important characteristics that we need from leaders, especially the president of the United States. And there's so much rhetoric on both sides right now. There's so much divide on both sides right now. We are racially divided now. I think that we weren't in a while. And it makes me very, very sad. So I'm glad that we were able to have this conversation. I'm glad you're going to be a part of our debate event tonight. I think that's going to be a lot of fun. And yeah, I've enjoyed the conversation. And it's refreshing because unfortunately, not just the debates that I do on Sean Show, but even on my own show, they don't always go this way. So I'm glad that we're able to come do some agreements and be able to call out the obvious. I think most people can't do that.

1:19:39So I appreciate that. I would say the same, Ron. I think, you know, this is why I don't mind calling myself more so a Christian populist now, even than a conservative because at the end of the day, there's too many radical writing up jobs out there. And there are left-leaning lunatics that just don't want to acknowledge, like you just said, calling out the obvious. You can't have an honest conversation if we can't call it the obvious face. We can disagree on ideology all day long. But at the end of the day, the facts have to be paramount to our feelings. And so in order for us to have a successful country, this whole crossing the aisle thing has to become commonplace. So I really think that all the country for the next 20, 30, 50 years should all re-register the independence. The Republicans and the Democrats on either side should earn the votes of the American people. But the party line ideology that exists now is only going to further an already existing divide. And so if people like us don't have these conversations and if we don't continue to push the limits, right? No fun intended. We're going to have fucking problems like that. You know, we have to go off the script, shame was put there, of the bullshit. And that's why people are not going to like us all the time.

1:20:39But as long as we get to the truth, everything else doesn't fucking matter. Agreed, Lou. Thanks for your question. I'm a very good answer. Very good. All right. If you're enjoying this debate, do me a quick favor. Hit the subscribe button. We're bringing in some of the most controversial voices on the internet and putting them face to face with people who completely disagree with them. It's not easy. So your subscription helps us pull this off. Comment below who you want to see debate next as well.