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This Machine Uses Light to Heal Your Body...| Dr Richard Albright & Dr Phil Harrington | DSH #1893

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“This might be the future of healing… and it doesn’t involve drugs or surgery.” On this episode of The Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with Dr. Richard Albright and Dr. Phil Harrington to break down a new breakthrough in health optimization — the full-body laser pod. They explain how light therapy, mitochondrial energy, and AI-driven diagnostics are reshaping the future of medicine — from recovery and performance to longevity and inflammation. From athletes chasing a competitive edge to everyday people dealing with stress, fatigue, and chronic pain — this episode explores how technology is shifting healthcare from reactive treatment to proactive optimization. This is a cutting-edge Digital Social Hour episode on longevity, performance, and the future of health. Chapters: 00:00 AI + Body Scans and Diagnostics 00:16 What Is Zeta Potential & Blood Flow 00:47 Introducing the Laser Pod 01:24 Full-Body Light Therapy Explained 02:15 Why Laser Beats LED 03:16 Recovery, Energy & Performance Gains 03:52 15-Minute Full Body Treatment 05:16 Biohacking & Longevity Movement 06:18 Mitochondria, Energy & Healing 08:01 Reactive vs Proactive Healthcare 15:25 Blood Flow, Nitric Oxide & Health 18:44 Handling Skepticism in New Tech 🎯 What You’ll Learn: ⚡ How light therapy impacts your cells and energy 🧬 Why mitochondria are key to recovery and longevity 💡 The difference between laser vs LED therapy 🩸 How blood flow and zeta potential affect your health 🔥 Why inflammation is the root of many issues 🏃 How athletes use tech for faster recovery 🧠 How AI is entering the health optimization space ⏱️ Why 15-minute treatments can be effective 🔄 The shift from reactive to proactive healthcare 🎙️ APPLY OR CONNECT 👉 Interested in being a guest? Apply here: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/apply 💼 SPONSORS: Select Quote: selectquote.com/dsh Biohackers: https://luma.com/BHW-LA-2026?coupon=DSH30 Shopify: Shopify.com/dsh Wild Society Nutrition: https://www.wildsocietynutrition.com/SEAN 📩 Business Inquiries & Sponsorships [email protected] 👤 GUEST Dr. Richard Albright and Dr. Phil Harrington: https://www.instagram.com/summuslaser/ 🎧 LISTEN TO THE PODCAST 🍏 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 🎵 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 📸 Follow the Host Sean Kelly on Instagram: @seanmikekelly ⚠️ DISCLAIMER The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. The host and producers are not responsible for statements, claims, or opinions shared by guests during the show. This content is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. Listeners are encouraged to do their own research and consult qualified professionals when appropriate. While we aim to share accurate and reliable information, no guarantees are made regarding completeness or accuracy. Digital Social Hour works with participants in sponsored media and stays compliant with Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations regarding sponsored media. #ad. 🔥 Stay tuned for more conversations with creators, founders, and innovators shaping the digital world. 🔑 Keywords: Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly, laser pod, light therapy, photobiomodulation, biohacking, longevity, mitochondria, ATP production, inflammation, recovery, health optimization, wellness technology, AI health, red light therapy, blood flow, nitric oxide, zeta potential, proactive healthcare, performance recovery Visit Our Website at https://digital-social-hour.simplecast.com/   Presented by https://podgo.io/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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It also gives some AI input based on your coverage or your spine. This is what you're looking like. The cool thing about that is you can use that as your initial start before even getting in the pod. And then you can see the changes that are going on. Because the whole thing is diagnostic is great. And especially AI is very good and is going to be eventually better than us. Well, if you're under oxidative stress, if you have poor nutrition, physical stress, there's many things that cause that zeta potential to be lost and your blood does not flow as well. And what's really cool is exposure to the right frequencies, the right wavelengths of light restores as zeta potential. And that's one way that this laser pod is going to restore it all. Okay, guys, Dr. Richard Albright and Dr. Phil Harrington from Sumis Medical Laser. We've never had guests specialize in this field. So thanks for your time, gentlemen. Yeah, well, thank you for having us. We have those that don't know what Sumis is about. Could you explain what's going on? Well, you know, we've been doing this for about 22 years in class four laser therapy.

And that's more of the portable targeted area. And so we would basically treat a neck shoulder of a knee. But over the last three, three to five years, everyone kept asking us they feel so good that they wanted to do. You have something that you can do a whole body. And the technology wasn't available yet. And so we have just launched and ever came out with the first fully synchronized laser pod that's unattended. It's a class four laser that basically we're positioning it as a cellular regeneration suite. Wow, that's exactly cool. So Phil, break that down. What exactly is happening for the promised source? And understand. I know it's really awesome the way it is. And you know, seeing this start out with with laser therapy and seeing how well that works. And now they have the technology to be available to do this. So really what we're doing is the patient will lay in there in the laser pod. And it really delivers a full body photonic energy, the entire body.

So there's seven different wavelengths working at the same time. Some of those wavelengths will be fairly shallow in penetration. Some of them like 810 and 1064 will penetrate much deeper into the body. But the really important thing to always remember, we're going to say this many times, it's laser. He's true laser. This is the first laser pod, first laser bed. And that hits the mitochondria in the body. You get that systemic energy production. So really what you're doing is helping with the body's energy and natural repair processes. And you know, you see all of these LED panels and things like that. They're fine. Yeah. But that red light and with it being light emitting diodes, it just doesn't penetrate as deeply. And there's really no coordination of those treatments. So the laser pod really fills that gap. You get that full body systemic treatment for a true whole body system effect. And so there's really, there's no gaps. It's all gained. Wow. No gaps all gains. So you got a multi wavelength device that does this in a hands-free way.

It really helps the doctor to scale their practice. Yeah, that's exciting. I'm pumped to try it out actually because I use the red lights on a lot. But you're saying this gets even deeper than those? Yes. Deeper. It's non-evasive. You know, people come out, feel like I'm a less brain fog. Athletes recovery. So, you know, as, as we evolved and practiced, and then being and doing this for 22 years as a manufacturer, you know, the athletes, the high-end consumer, they don't want a treatment. They want a competitive advantage. Yeah. And so this gives them that competitive advantage. And again, it feels soothing. It's a great patient experience. And people will actually love this. Yeah. How long do you have to stay inside of it for? Average is, we got about 15 minutes. Oh, that's so quick. So you can just get in and out. So if you're an athlete, before workout, after workout, an executive in between a meeting, or if you have a one in your house,

it could be your daily ritual. Wow. Yeah, that's way quicker than I thought, actually. Right. Sometimes with the red light, you got to stay in front of it for a long time. Exactly. Yeah. No, because we're dealing, we're changing it, like Dr. Phil had said, from LED, which doesn't penetrate as deep. So now we're creating a lot more. They call jewels into the body, so you don't need as much time. Nice. What's the feedback been so far? I know it's new, but have people been using it? Yeah, we've been using it in our office. We've been testing it for, it's been about two years. We've been working on this particular project. The feedback's awesome. I mean, you, I mean, people just absolutely love it. So we're really excited. We were just here this week at a conference to show it off, and we've got several pre-orders already. Yeah, well, so it works out well. Yeah, yeah. That's not easy to do. No, I know. Yeah, because it's a high ticket price. We have to high ticket item, but we have such a great reputation in the industry that now we're just taking what we've done for many years in the handheld lasers

and now shifting it into the laser pod. Nice. Does it affect other parts of the area other than the muscle like the brain, too? Yeah, so it's, you know, again, with getting that whole body exposure, getting that full systemic effect. And, you know, there certainly is mitochondria in the tissues and the cells in the body. There's also free-floating mitochondria in the bloodstream. So what this is with the laser pod, it's about giving the cells the right light inputs to help boost that mitochondrial ATP production. And that helps to reduce oxidative stress. And it helps to encourage the bodies on repair mechanisms. So, you know, you don't have to be an overcharging elite athlete to need this repair. Everyone needs it. Everyone in daily life needs this. And you get that full body coverage. You get that systemic effect. So everything from recovery to daily energy, you just feel more balanced and more sustained. All right, so you stick with it all day long. And, you know, really the point is biology responds to energy. And, you know, what the laser pod does

is it floods the cells with those light frequencies that they need to recharge and regenerate. Yeah, the bodies are being attacked by so many different angles now. Yes, not just if you're an athlete. You know, you go E-M-F, you go Wi-Fi, microplastics, pollution, diet, stress, life. Yeah, it's a big one. Yeah, I'd be, I tried my stress. It's crazy how stressed. We're just all the time. We have six hours of that. Yeah, especially learning on hearing Las Vegas. The air is so dry. Yeah, Vegas can destroy you guys are here for a week and you kind of get a little taste of it, right? Right, yeah. And my lips are chaps, they're Arab. I've been chaps for years. Ever since I moved here. So you also talk about shifting from a reactive health care to proactive optimization, right? I think that's a big moment these days. Absolutely. And so it's, you know, longevity is systemic. And so you change the mindset of the physician to, you know, from reactive medicine to proactive,

you know, the laser pod, as laser pod as Dr. Phil was saying, it has complete cellular energy throughout the body for total body optimization. And it leaves no biological gaps. Yeah, that's an issue. It is, yeah. Yeah, because a lot of stuff does have gaps or side effects these days. Right, yeah. Or even what the treatments that we started with, like if somebody had back pain, we will be using the laser on their back. Well, but if you think about, if you're looking at it from an injury, pain management standpoint, if let's say you sprain your knee, well, that's going to affect, you know, downstream down in your leg and upstream up into your hip, you know, now with the laser pod, we can do that whole body treatment to hit everything. Wow. Yeah, I've been up and wick it back, mainly. I really want to try this. Is there any of these? Yeah. Very high-end consumer right now at the moment, but not yet, but they'll be coming in. Please zoom. Guys, want to go to B2B route mainly? Like, well, centers and doctor offices are...

B2B and then B2C for the high-end consumer, and that usually, you know, has the income and some of these guys have their own, pretty other physical therapist there. But again, like we were saying, it's very unattended. You know, it's going to hit in the button, jumping in and then in and out in 15 minutes. And which makes it, and it's very safe. The pod actually has sonar in it to measure the body, to know the size there, to deliver the exact dose for that particular person. Wow, that's crazy. And knows their skin color. What? And will monitor any temperature if it got over a certain degree. That's impressive. For the AI. That... No, that's normal. That's his normal sonar. Yeah, that's built in into all our devices. That's really incredible. I haven't heard of something like this. Yeah, you know what I mean? We're trying to make it very safe and very easy to use. Yeah, well done. We got to get one to Brian Johnson. Funny you should say that.

Well, we're... Oh, you're a talk. Wow, I had no idea that that's funny. I know he's on the hiding edge of stuff like this. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From what we understand, he's also on the... He'll be on the cover soon on one of the big famous... Realizing. Wow, shout out to him, man. Yeah, he's got a lot of people interested in health. I think he's... I think he's just started in 2023. You know what I mean? Pretty due to the space. Yeah, I know God's like Asperin. Ben Greenfield have been around for decades, but Brian really made a scene quick. Yeah, well, I mean, we're old hats. I mean, but we've been... Literally, we've been with the... the targeted lasers with... You know, we've been doing it for 22 years. Wow. And I feel like you were ahead of your time with them. Yes, because back then, they would stare at you differently. Look at Rosadilis. longevity was a cool back then. longevity wasn't cool. It wasn't the next thing, but we were targeting more for pain. And interesting enough, where it really caught on to was in the veterinarian field. Really? And the vets were using it for their animals. And are saying in our...

in our offices, animals don't lie. People do. And so, when you see an animal limping, and then you can actually, you know, treat that particular animal and he's all of a sudden, and he's running one or two treatments afterwards. Wow. It shows you what's really happening with the cellular side of the laser. That's a big sell. It's really been an advancement of the, you know, the research behind the mechanisms, you know, how this works. How does the light interact with the tissues? How deep does it go? What, what chromosomes is it hitting? What's happening inside the body? So, you know, in the past 22 years, we've had researchers around the world developing these mechanisms. Now, that helps us, as equipment manufacturers, put that into our technology. And that's, you know, one thing, summa's medical laser. We've always been a very science-based company. So, we're going to take all of that relevant science and put it into our equipment to get the best outcomes. That's exciting. Yeah, sometimes in the wellness space, that science park gets lost. Yeah, or it kind of goes backwards, or they make something and try to fit the science, too, it's so...

Yeah, there's a lot of even supplements, you know, you think you're doing the right thing, and the game look was actually in them, right? They're not really checked by a third party. So, I've been navigating that space. From the physician side, though, now you're moving from a symptom management to a system optimization, which we think is the future of medicine. Really? So, a library more on that. What do you see going on with them? Well, you know, everyone, and I think this is probably since COVID, you know, when the government would tell us that we have to have this shine to make us feel better, they forgot that we have an innate ability to heal ourselves. And so, I think it woke a lot of people up. We've been in this space for a long time, so we knew the body heals itself. Yeah. So, now more and more people are rushing in to learn more about, hey, you know, there's all these particular devices or tools or nutrition that's available that I need to get on the stick

and my body needs to perform better, because as we age, you know, it's declining cellular power, you know, and so, you know, what this pod does is to increase more energy into that area. Thus, you know, you're going to work more on a peak performance, opposed to always feeling, you know, tired. Yeah, that makes sense. I love what you said about the body healing itself, too, because I think growing up, I didn't think that way at all. Guys, if you're into optimizing your health, performance, or longevity, there's an event coming up that's actually pretty interesting. It's called Biohackers World. It brings together a bunch of researchers, founders, and health innovators, talking about things like metabolic health, gut health, stress, recovery, longevity, and AI-powered health systems. It's basically two days of conversations and technology focused on helping people perform better and stay healthier long-term.

There are over 30 talks, 35 speakers, and more than 60 companies showcase a new health tech. If that's your world, you can check it out at biohackers.world and use code DSH30 to get 30% off your ticket. It's called Biohackers World. Check it out at biohackers.world and use code DSH30 to get 30% off your ticket. Yeah, and as such a streamlined set, we as former chiropractors, that's what we're taught in chiropractic school is that the body can heal itself. Above, down inside out, the body has the ability to heal itself, and now that we are able to use technologies like this to help the body to heal itself. We're not putting any drugs in, not doing any surgery, we're using light in such a way that it stimulates healing in the body. Right. And one really cool thing, and this is a topic that I just got interested

in interested in in the last few months, is the term is called Zeta Potential of the blood. And so you have the blood flowing throughout the body, and normally red blood cells should have a little bit of negative charge so that they should repel each other. When you get down to the capillary level, so they can flow through the capillaries, carrying the oxygen and the nutrients. Well, if you're under oxidative stress, if you have poor nutrition, physical stress, there's many things that cause that Zeta Potential to be lost, and your blood does not flow as well. Wow. And what's really cool is exposure to the right frequencies, the right wavelengths of light, restores that Zeta Potential. And that's one way that this laser pod is going to restore health. That's how it really is going. So that being said, because a lot of guys have issues in bed, right, and you're saying you lack a blood flow. Right. Could this potentially help you do? Put it potentially help that too. So blood flow and other effect, and other mechanism, and again, thank goodness to the researchers that studied this technology, is you do get a release of nitric oxide.

A nitric oxide is a vasodilator. That's going to further help with the blood flow. Right. So that's another way that, yes, it can help. Yeah, there's whole nitric oxide companies. Right. You know, definitely. Because of that blood flow issue right now, a lot of people seem to be having even younger people. People in their 20s. Right. And why is that? Right. You know, that's the real question. Yeah. Yeah, food, the reading, or is it the microplastics? Like because everything, right? Yes. Yeah. There's so many things going on. Getting hit by so many things. Yeah. And now here with the laser pod, that's a way to address those things. Yeah. Wow. So you guys are like on the cutting edge of the chiropractic space. That's exciting. You seem to always be ahead of it, Aaron, in that, in that form. But not even just chiropractic, but now it's more going into the longevity space. These guys get it. You know, they're there. It's been exciting for us to be more. We've always been in it, but we haven't. Yeah. Kind of. But now we're really targeting this longevity space and ice. And these, you know,

consumers and being on a podcast like you that are preaching, you know, this type of stuff that we do. Get the information out there. Yeah. Yeah. That's in the key, right? Because just isn't really taught anywhere. Right. Correct. You can find out about it on the audience for that. It is platform with you, Sean. Yeah. Absolutely. Have you guys been going to a lot of longevity conferences and events? We probably the last year and a half, but now it's more exciting because if we were showing our portable lasers, they were like, it takes time, right? And so this is another big thing for a physician is now he can be doing his other stuff, putting someone in the pod unattended. He doesn't need additional staff, right? And so he's also, if you're coming into income, he's making additional revenue off of that without having to utilize extra people to hire good plan. And that's been a bigger thing. And so back to the longevity doctors is they're so busy doing other things.

They don't have another person to wave, you know, a laser on them. It's just a good point. So they can go in there. Same with chiropractors. There's so much manual work. This could really help. Sure. And a lot of times in chiropractic, we teach them. It's like, hey, you don't get those additional therapies that are unattended that they're working for you opposed to you having to do everything. Yeah. How are you guys dealing with the skeptics? Because this is such a new technology. Are you getting any hate or criticism? You know, it's not really new technology. You know, a laser in general has been, what would you say? Is it 50 years? It's 60? Hello. He's long that I asked. He's one of the laser demonis was invented. And you know, skepticism is healthy. That's great. We face skepticism all along our pathways. You know, I remember my early days of using these devices in my own office that people would, you know, ask me, you're crazy. You shine a lot on somebody and they feel better. And again, going back to that understanding of mechanisms and in showing them how it works. Once you can explain how it works,

then the skeptics will be, okay, I get it. Now there is still some skepticism and that's healthy. But, you know, what we find, you got decades of research in this topic of using light to have a biological effect on tissues. And what it proves is that these treatments do help with mitochondrial function and resolving inflammatory stress, all right. And those are two big things. When it comes to health, wellness, longevity, energy, and so on. And so, you know, what we're doing with this laser pod that we're introducing, you got that position, you've got the depth, you got the dosage control, you got that full body synchronization to really, really help the body. And, you know, now it's not biology and about belief, okay. Biology responds to this energy, all right. And so, that's the way we're able to get the outcomes with the laser pod. Nice. Yeah, that's cool. Where do you see this thing going in the next five to 10 years? Do you think this is going to be mainstream by then? We hope so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it starts again, the physicians

and the ones that are the earlier adopters. And then once they jump on, then I think it starts to, you know, move up in the ranking. Yeah, I mean, everyone's got stress and inflammatory stress, especially if you like. Yeah. And then, you know, things to look for in our laser pod, you know, right now we were talking about the way it's able to measure the patient and check their skin tone and things of that nature. But checking markers to the response to the treatment and using AI to analyze those results and then build custom protocols. I love the machine. That's part of our future. Yeah, I just went to the dentist. He's using AI now. So he does the scans, the cone beam scans, goes in in the AI. I love that. I think that's the future. Same old blood work, too. For sure. Yeah, we have another device, and it's called the VisBody. And it basically measures your metabolic health, measures posture. And then what we get out of that is you can see where they're at

for their metabolic health from body fat percentages, an extra cellular water, that one's cool. We have that here this weekend. Should it come to the show? Anyway, I know my posture is so bad. I want to tell you that. But then it gives, it also gives some AI input of what, based on that, based on your curvature, your spine. And this is what you're looking like. And then the cool thing about that is you can use that as your initial start before even getting in the pod. And then you can see the changes that are going on. I love that. Because the whole thing is diagnostic is great. And especially AI is very good. And it's going to be eventually better than us. Well, it might be already, but yeah, sure. For sure, it will be way better in the future. Right. Even with surgeries are saying they're going to be better. Sure, which is crazy. But I definitely want to draw that. Because I have scoliosis. I also have arthritis in my back and neck. And what is arthritis? Inflammation. Yeah. So if we remove inflammation, you know, the healing starts taking place. Yeah, I've had chronic inflammation in my back

for I think years. I know. My lifestyle is all right. On all day, you know, Richard, we found a patient. Yeah. Well, they say sitting is terrible for you, right? So what you're sitting down all day working out. I don't know, you know, and you know, having that healthy lifestyle is definitely helps. But I'm not saying you're not healthy. It's part of everything, you know, and this is a piece of the puzzle of everything that we're that that's out there. Absolutely. For people watching this, how can they learn more and check out this stuff and everything? Yeah. So our site is the laser pod.com. It, uh, we put the in front of it because it is the first, uh, yeah, klar. And then, um, sure, we're going to have some video of the pod rolling that we're going to send to you. And, and I ought to put this on the, on the screen. Beautiful. Anything else, guys? You want to close off with here? Well, I guess I'll just say that, you know, we've been at this a long time. I know, uh, uh, we're a little bit older than you,

but, uh, you know, I think that, uh, part of having this, you know, both of us using photobimodulation devices in our, in our own healthcare, as has helped to keep us healthy. And then the ones around us, all, you know, these, using these light devices. But then also, you know, this is a non-invasive treatment. It feels good, but it has all of these tremendous systemic benefits for health. So it's definitely something to look at. And it's something that is really going to be a part of that trend towards proactive healthcare as we move into the future. Absolutely. Yeah. And, you know, and we're not promising miracles. We're just actually restoring energy into the area. So the pod puts the control back in your, back in your hands. It's one system every stage of life. Well, we'll link the, uh, website below and your social media and those things are coming on, gentlemen. All right. Thank you. You look forward to trying it myself. Yes. For sure. Awesome. Check them out, guys. Link in the description. See you next time. Thanks for watching all the way to the end, guys. Please hit like and subscribe. It helps us grow the show and helps us get bigger guests.

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