Thermos Man Returns: Florida's "Cooler" Criminal Is Back on the Street

0:00Whether you're solving murders during breakfast, cracking cold cases on your commute, or playing amateur detective at bedtime, Amazon Music's got millions of podcast episodes waiting. Just download the Amazon Music app and start listening to your favorite true crime podcasts, AdFree, included with Prime. Look at him, eating whatever he wants, never gaining a pound. While I'm stuck with the boring special and can't lose an ounce. As you're lunch, man. Amazing. Yours so good. Oh, I'm so happy for you. Cool, buddy. Weight loss isn't fair, but mochi health is the affordable GLP one-source that can fix your frustration with food. So same time next week? No! Definitely. And your friends, learn more at joinmochi.com. Mochi members have access to licensed physicians and nutritionists, results may vary. Good day, crime-talking Fish and Nottos. It is Friday, and yes, it's not casual Friday. I'm just getting ready to hit the road. First on the docket. A terror attack in a Virginia rotsy classroom and a Michigan synagogue all on the same day.

1:04Far from mother of the year, a California woman faces murder charges in the death of two infants. And a Georgia mom also accused of suffocating two infants' sons by pinching their nose. That's right. The Arizona Sheriff Issues an urgent public warning about the Nancy Guthrie abductor saying, yeah, they could strike again. We've got this day in legal history. Our quote of the day. And our dumb criminal. That's right. Thurma's man is finally released from jail after smuggling the insulated bottle where the son doesn't shine. Let's talk about it. Good day, crime-talking Fish and Nottos. My name is Scott Reich, and this is Crime Talk. Thanks for joining us. You know the drill. Subscribe if you haven't. Like if you do. Leave me a comment below and make sure you hit that little bell for notifications. And yes, you can check us out on any of your favorite podcasting apps.

2:05Now, you may say, Scott, what are you doing? Is this casual Friday or something? Oh my god. No. Came in to get a couple of things done. Going on, going on a trip, doing something I haven't done in years, going to try not to embarrass myself. All right. For those of you who don't know, my son, he was very good golfer. Played high school, came in second, two years in a row, to a kid that just happened to win the US Open a couple of years ago. Yeah, that guy. Everybody says he's a nice kid. I used to hate the kid. I wish him well now. But my son always came in second to him. Anyway, it is what it is. So I'm going to go play golf this weekend, having an invitation to play golf, having to play golf in almost probably a year and a half. So I got to get out there and swing the clubs a little bit. But I'm also going to a state that I haven't been to since my daughter graduated from college. I swear I would never go back once I got out of that state. But yes, I'm going to California because

3:06regardless of how the state has been ruined, they can't ruin the weather yet. I'm sure if there's a way, they'll figure it out. But they still can't ruin the weather. So if you're in Palm Springs this weekend, you know, see me about, come say hi. All right. Next thing I want to talk about, yes, a tire. It is casual tire today because I had no court. Okay. Yesterday I was in court and I'm telling you, this is, it is my pet peeve, ladies and gentlemen, an attorney in court that has been practicing, I don't know, close to 35 years, 40 years. I don't know. Wearing tennis shoes. Had on a sport coat, was taking his tie off on his way out. Wearing tennis shoes. Now, I don't care. I mean, unless you just had bunion surgery on your feet, there's no reason for an attorney to wear running shoes to court. None, zip, zilch, nada. And unless there's a medical reason, no. All right.

4:07So I want to make attorneys dress well again. You don't have to wear suit every day, like I do Monday through Friday, but at least try to look like a professional. You know what I'm saying? Particularly when you go to court. If you can't distinguish the attorneys from the defendants, you know, as an attorney, you're probably not doing a good job. And if you're a defendant and your attorney looks like he's a defendant, well, you're probably going to prison too. Okay. So just some to think about their attorneys, that's what I'm telling you. Please start dressing professionally. All right. These casual shoes, I mean, and this attorney had on running shoes, okay. Like he's going to run a marathon or something. We're not tying. But even those comfortable shoes that, you know, the white bottoms, but they're supposed to look like dress shoes. No, those should be banned. That is a crime against humanity. They should never, ever be worn with a suit. Okay. Glad I got that off my chest, because that's been bugging me.

5:08All right. Before we get to the docket, let me also let you know to go to crimetalksearch.com. Sign up for that background subscription service today. When you do, you can do as many background searches on anyone here in the United States. That report is literally prepared while you wait. It's email to you and you can get updates and you're going to get every type of more information you can possibly imagine about the person that you're searching for. All right. You're going to get phone numbers, email addresses, social media presence. You're going to find out if they have criminal history married, divorced, leans, judgments, bankruptcies, criminal history, and yes, are they on a sex offender registry? All those things that you want to know about somebody that maybe they're not going to volunteer to you, ladies and gentlemen. So go to crimetalksearch.com and sign up today. All right. Let's go ahead and get to the docket for Friday, March 13th, 2026, and quick update. We didn't mention it in the intro, but the Corey Richens trial out there in Park City, Utah. The defense rested. Didn't call witness.

6:10Didn't nothing. Now, don't panic. I guess if you're rooting for Corey Richens, but I can tell you as defense attorney, I've actually one more cases when we don't present any case and just basically say the government has failed to meet their burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. So obviously the prosecution called many, many witnesses over the several weeks to try and show that Corey Richens was guilty of killing her husband and for the reasons of extramarital affair, financial interests, all those types of things where she was going to profit from his death due to financial constraints. There's a jury-charging conference this afternoon. 130 that are going to start to do jury instructions. It should be pretty straightforward. Probably won't take long. It should be televised. We'll bring it to you. And then on Monday morning at 8.30, closing arguments are to begin. So that's going to be a good one. We're going to promote it. All the heck out of it. We're going to make sure everybody watches it

7:12and I will try to do my best to maybe join in with that as well. Question is the prosecution proved the case or are there enough holes in the prosecution's case for the jury to say not guilty? All right, let's go ahead and get to the docket. First on the docket, a terrorist attack strikes a Virginia ROTC classroom. And then we had a Michigan synagogue attack as well all the same day. But the one I really like about, not that I like any sort of terrorist attack, but I like that the people in the classrooms the ROTC students unalive the terrorist. And they didn't have a gun. I think it was a pocket knife that they used. But either way, that shows you, ladies and gentlemen, that America is still in good hands. I used to get a little discouraged. And then when my son went to the Air Force Academy, I would go down there and say, man, these are some of the brightest kids in the entire country. They could have gone anywhere, but they chose to serve their country. And it restores your faith in the youth of America. All right.

8:13So in a stark demonstration that United States remains under direct threat from extremists to separate terrorist incidents unfolded yesterday, claiming one life, injuring others and exposing vulnerabilities in campus and community securities. Now, police have explicitly linked both attacks to radical Islamist motivations with the perpetrators histories and actions underscoring a pattern of jihadist violence, targeting American institutions and the Jewish community. So at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, reserve officer training core instructor Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw, a decorated United States Army veteran and dedicated educator was shot and killed inside a classroom during an assault classified by the FBI as an act of terrorism. Now, the shooter, a guy by the name of Mohammed Baylor Jallo, J-A-L-L-O-H, Jallo, a former Army National Guard member with a documented record of supporting

9:15the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria entered the constant hall shortly before 11 a.m. local time and open fire. Now, Jallo reportedly shouted Ali Akbar during the attack before being overpowered and killed by students who intervened to prevent further casualties. I love it. Anyway, Lieutenant Colonel Shaw, a Virginia native who enlisted in 2003 and earned a commission in 2007 after graduating from Old Dominion University had returned to his alma mater as a professor of military science to mentor the next generation of Army officers. Now, the Virginia governor, Abigail Spanberger, described him as a devoted Ratsi instructor who didn't just lead a life of service to our country, he taught and led others to follow that path. Two additional individuals were hospitalized following the shooting. One remains in critical condition. Now, federal investigators revealed

10:15that Jallo had been convicted in 2017. Wait for it. For attempting to provide material support to ISIS, court records show that he sought to purchase an AK-47 and expressed intent to carry out an attack similar to the 2009 Fort Hood Massacre. He was sentenced to 11 years in prison, but he was released in 2024. Now, the FBI director confirmed the terrorism designation and praised the student's rapid response stating that their bravery prevent. Whether you're into unsolved mysteries, solved mysteries, or creating your own mysteries, Amazon Music's got millions of podcast episodes waiting. Just download the Amazon Music app and start listening to your favorite podcasts, Add Free, included with Prime. Hey, guys, have you heard of Goldbelly? It's this amazing site where they ship the most iconic, famous foods from restaurants across the country. Anywhere nationwide, I've never found a more perfect gift than food.

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12:18Thank goodness. Remarkably, none of the approximately 140 students and staff inside the synagogue sustained any injuries. Now, the Department of Homeland Security identified Ghazili and confirmed the attack as a targeted act of violence against the Jewish community. The Oakland County Sheriff, Michael Bouchard, noted that authorities had been on heightened alert since the onset of the US-Israeli Iran conflict during which Ghazali's family members were reportedly killed in Israel's air strike, targeting Hezbollah and Lebanon. The FBI described this incident as a deliberate anti-Semitic terrorism consistent with Islamist extremist ideology that frequently manifests its attacks on Jewish institutions. Now, both perpetrators exemplify the persistent danger posed by radicalized individuals who have either previously pledged allegiance to designated terrorist organizations such as ISIS or who act in alignment with Islamist grievances

13:21fueled by overseas conflict, involving jihadist groups like Hezbollah. Now, the coordinated timing of these assaults won on a military training facility and the other on a house of worship. Obviously, signals in escalating campaign against American values, institutions, and our allies. Be careful out there. Be careful, my friends. Anyway, federal authorities, including the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, continues to investigate these connections and broader networks in the immediate aftermath officials have urged vigilance while commending these swift actions of students, security personnel, and first responders who limited the loss of life. Just goes to show your ladies and gentlemen. These guys did it without a gun. I love these students, man. They're just cadets, rotsy cadets, but they're still technically in the military. They should get some sort of metal. I love the FBI director basically saying, yeah, they unalived him.

14:22They attacked him and unalived him. I love that. Anyway, these incidents serve as the sober reminder that these extremists remain an active and lethal threat here in the United States. Now, as the investigation proceeds, obviously law enforcement says they're going to ensure accountability and safeguard the nation from further attacks. Now, I guess the good thing is, is, you know, both these guys are dead, so we don't have to have a trial when we like a who done it, right? And frankly, the question then becomes, if somebody is engaging in a terrorist attack, why should it be in the civilian courts, you know, send them off to Cuba, have a military tribunal. That's really what they're doing, is acting as a combatants in my humble opinion. So be safe, my friends, be safe. All right, next on the docket, far from mother of the year awards. We got two stories about two moms that, well, yeah, they should never be called mother again. So first, out in California,

15:24a 30-year-old California woman already accused of fatally injuring her newborn son at a homeless encampment, now stands charged with a second infant homicide from more than a decade earlier. Now, Marisol Flores faces two counts of murder and two counts of assault on a child causing death, following the Ventura County District Attorney's Office, filing of additional charges on March 10th. Now, the new accusations concern, the November 2015 death of her 25-day-year-old infant, prosecutor state that investigators reopened that case while probing the more recent incident and uncovered fresh evidence leaking floors to the earlier tragedy. Tragedy is like when a boulder rolls off a mountain. You know, you don't expect it as a tragedy. When you kill a small child, that's not a tragedy. Yes, I mean, I guess it is technically a tragedy, but that's murder, ladies and gentlemen, let's call it what it is. Okay, tragedies are things that you don't expect to happen. When somebody has murdered a small child,

16:26a 25-day-year-old child, that's just murder. The latest allegations stemmed from events on February 8th at a homeless encampment along West Vineyard Avenue in Oxnard. And according to court records, Flores gave birth at the site after which witness is observed her no longer appearing pregnant and without an infant present. News to say, emergency personnel later discovered the newborn's body at the location, exhibiting clear signs of blunt force trauma. And despite recestation efforts, the child was pronounced dead at the scene. The amended complaint includes special circumstances, notably the commission of multiple murders, which could result in the sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole, and additional aggravating factors cited by the prosecutors include the vulnerability of the victim and the alleged use of a deadly weapon. Now, Flores was immediately arrested following the February discovery, and on February 27th, her defense counsel raised questions regarding her competency

17:27to stand trial, prompting a temporary suspension of the proceedings. A court-appointed psychologist is now conducting a formal evaluation with a competency hearing schedule for March 26th in Ventura County Superior Court. If deemed competent and ultimately convicted on all counts, Flores could face the maximum penalty of life without parole. Obviously, the case is still under investigation, but just a sad tragedy, I guess tragedy. No, murder, murder, ladies and gentlemen. Next, how about a Georgia woman, a Georgia mother accused of suffocating two infant sons by pinching their nostrils? That's right. A 21-year-old Georgia woman faces murder charges in the desks of her two young sons, whom authorities alleged she killed more than three years apart by deliberately holding their nostrils closed to block their breathing. Please meet, never gonna be mother of the year award, Dakota Nicole Taylor of Rennes, Georgia,

18:29and she's been charged with malice murder, felony murder, and first degree, cruelty to children in connection with the 2021 death of her seven-month-old son, Micah Allen Taylor, and the 2025 death of her eight-month-old son, Caleb Taylor. Now, Micah died back in September of 2021, while Taylor resided at a group home for teenage mothers. After bathing the infant, she placed him in a swing where others' presence later discovered him slumped over and pale. The cause of death was initially ruled undetermined, the case drew scrutiny only after the second incident. And then on January 8th in 2025, Caleb was found unresponsive at a residence in Matthews in Jefferson County. He was transported to a hospital, but could not be revived, and investigators determined that Taylor had obstructed the child's airway, causing his death during the commission of felony child cruelty.

19:30And the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office immediately requested assistance from the Georgia Bureau investigation, which ultimately linked the two cases. Now court records alleged that Taylor used the same method, pinching or holding the infant's nostril shut in both deaths. And she was arrested on November 20th of 2025, while already in custody at the McDuffy County jail on-related charges stemming from the original Decalb County investigation into Micah's death. She has since been held without bond at the Jefferson County jail. Then on March 10th, a Jefferson County Superior Court judge granted Taylor a $150,000 cash bond combined with a $300,000 property bond in the case involving Caleb. Family member stated she is unlikely to have the resources to post that bond. Bond was previously denied during a February 20th, 26 hearing in Decalb is it relates to the death of Micah. Now Taylor is scheduled to appear in the Decalb County Court on April 7th.

20:33It remains unclear whether she has entered a plea at this time, more than likely to suffer a preliminary hearing. Anyway, the allegation is prompted to coordinate effort by local police and the Georgia Bureau investigation to thoroughly examine both incidents and the case is ongoing. Really, it's managed to get pregnant, not once, but twice. And both our kids just happened to die. What do we say, ladies and gentlemen? There's no coincidences in the criminal defense world, so to speak. Yeah. Yeah. You know, child was born, if you didn't want it, I'm sure there'd be lots of people that would be more than happy to adopt a child if there's someone that just obviously loves children or maybe they couldn't have children themselves. Absolutely unbelievable. Somebody could do that. Next in the docket, the Arizona Sheriff issues an urgent public warning. Saying the Nancy Guthrie's abductor could absolutely strike again. So the Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos has issued a sobering alert to residents

21:34stating that the whether you're solving murders during breakfast, cracking cold cases on your commute or playing amateur detective at bedtime. Amazon Music's got millions of podcast episodes waiting. Just download the Amazon Music app and start listening to your favorite true crime podcasts, Add Free, included with Prime. A mochi moment from Sadie, who writes, I'm not crying, you're crying. This is what I said during my first appointment with my physician at Mochi, because I didn't have to convince him I needed a GLP one. He understood, and I felt supported, not judged. I came for the weight loss and stayed for the empathy. Thanks, Sadie. I'm Myra Amit, founder of Mochi Health. To find your mochi moment is at joinmochi.com. Sadie is a mochi member compensated for her story. The person responsible for the February 1st disappearance of Nancy Guthrie may pose a community danger to the community. Now, in an interview conducted on March 12th and broadcast on NBC's Today Show, the following morning,

22:38Sheriff Nanos emphasized that police cannot guarantee these suspects actions were limited to a single target. That's right. Criminal minds are criminal minds. He told the correspondent, he added, don't think for a minute because it happened to a Guthrie family, you're safe. Investigators believe that Nancy Guthrie, mother of today, show co-host Savannah Guthrie, was deliberately selected, yet they remain uncertain whether the motor was entirely personal. We believe we know why he did this, and we believe that it was targeted, but we're not 100% sure of that, Nanos explained. So I'd be silly to tell people, don't worry about it, you're not his target. You could be. Anyway, the sheriff comments mark the latest development in the case now entering its seventh week, and no suspects have been publicly identified and the Pima County Sheriff's Department is working with the FBI to figure out what the heck happened to Nancy Guthrie and try to determine if she's still alive.

23:39Forensic evidence covered from the victim's residence includes a mixed DNA profile that investigators hope will yield a breakthrough, and sheriff Nanos expressed cautious optimism that this material combined with other leads will eventually identify the perpetrator. Now, earlier in the investigation, authorities released surveillance footage showing a masked individual estimated to be a male of average building approximately five foot nine inches to five 10 tampering with a doorbell camera and Nancy Guthrie's home. At least three individuals have been questioned and released, none are considered suspects, and members of the Guthrie family have been formally cleared. Obviously, a lot of attention because of, you know, Nancy Guthrie being reported missing because her daughter and the FBI is offered a $100,000 reward for information leading to her safe return, and the Guthrie family has also pledged an additional $1 million. Now, sheriff Nanos previously indicated back in February

24:41in a previous interview that the abduction appeared deliberate, noting that the perpetrators had complicated the inquiry, but that his team remained determined. He has not elaborated further on potential motives or alternative series. Anyway, residents in the Tucson area are being urged to remain vigilant and report any relevant information to law enforcement, and hopefully we can get this solved. I mean, we're in the seventh week for God's sakes. Maybe it'll come in the eighth. Next, this day in legal history, March 13th, 1862. President Abraham Lincoln signed into law legislation known as an additional article of war. The major explicitly prohibited officers in the Union Army and Navy from returning escaped enslaved individuals to their claimed owners, the statute effectively suspended enforcement of the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 within the military context and represented one of the earliest federal legislative actions

25:43to undermine the institution of slavery during the Civil War, obviously advancing the unions evolving policy towards emancipation. How about March 13th, 1925? The Tennessee Senate passed the Butler Act, which prohibited public school teachers from instructing students in any theory that denied the biblical account of divine creation, or asserted that humans had descended from lower animals. Although the governor signed the bill into law eight days later, its passage directly precipitated the landmark Scopes Monkey Trial later that year. The statute and the ensuing trial became a defining national debate over the intersection of science, religion, academic freedom, and public education. On March 13th, 1963, Ernesto Miranda, sound familiar? He was arrested in Phoenix, Arizona on charges of kidnapping and rape. His subsequent interrogation and conviction

26:43conducted without informing him of his constitutional rights led to the landmark United States Supreme Court case, Miranda v. Arizona, which was decided in 1966. The courts ruling established the requirement, the law enforcement must advise suspects of their rights to remain silent and to an attorney prior to custodial interrogation. Incustity being interrogated on the issue at hand. Not officer safety reasons for protective searches and things like that on the side of the road where they just came and arrested you for a warrant. They have to be interrogating you about the reason why you're in custody. Anyway, this decision fundamentally transformed American criminal procedure and remains the cornerstone of the fifth and sixth amendment protections for all defendants. So why not have a quote from Miranda v. Arizona from Chief Justice Earl Warren who stated the constitutional requirements for advising the suspects prior to interrogation?

27:45He said, quote, he must be warned prior to any questioning that he has a right to remain silent, that anything he says can be used against him in a court of law, that he has the right to the presence of an attorney and that if he cannot afford an attorney, one would be appointed for him prior to any questioning if he so desires. End quote, that precise language from the majority opinion establish the procedural safeguards known as Miranda warnings, which protects people's fifth and the sixth amendment rights against self-incrimination. Now listen, everybody knows that he should keep quiet when they're being questioned, but most can't do it. They just can't do it, ladies and gentlemen. They just gotta find out what's going on and they usually talk themselves into a conviction. And as I have said this before many times, I've even said it a couple of times this week in my own practice, it's always the defendants own words that get them in the end. Keep your mouth shut, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, the Supreme Court actually warned you.

28:46They give you a warning, hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, sanomore, sanomore, right? But people still say, no, I'm still gonna talk with you. Even if you're 100% innocent, keep your mouth shut, ladies and gentlemen. And finally, our dumb criminal of the day. Pthermis-man, yeah, we brought you to the story previously. He's been released from custody after smuggling an insulated bottle where the sun doesn't shine. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ladies and gentlemen. Florida man who turned his body into the world's most uncomfortable travel mug has officially walked free after a plea deal that ended his five-month stint behind bars and behind everything else. Please meet Walter Frymeyer. He's 52 and he pled no contest Friday to possessing a methamphetamine pipe and threatening

29:48a share of deputy. Now prosecutors dropped the main felony drug charge in exchange for Frymeyer being sentenced to 180 days. Having already spent roughly five months in custody since his October arrest, he was released from the Polk County jail on March 6. But the saga began, ladies and gentlemen, when deputies responded to reports of a naked man in Winter Haven Park, bathroom there. When officers arrived, Frymeyer was fully clothed in casually carrying what he described as a, quote, gray lunchbox. What was inside his methamphetamine? What they didn't realize at the same time was that Mr. Frymeyer was also traveling with a much larger, fully insulated companion during booking at the Polk County jail. A full body scanner revealed something far more surprising than the usual contraband. Before it, an entire standard-sized thermos lodged where the sun doesn't shine.

30:48Ladies and gentlemen, think about that. Police later confirmed the 52-year-old had, in fact, inserted the stainless steel container via the exit ramp the day before his arrest. Doctors at a local hospital removed the unexpected piece of drinkware without incident. Thank God. Markably, stashing household items in unconventional body cavities isn't actually illegal. So no additional charges were filed for his creative, if deeply uncomfortable storage solution that he brought about. Anyway, Frymeyer is no stranger to the system. Quart Records show that he has a lengthy rap sheet that includes multiple prior trips to the County jail, as well as some state facilities where he reportedly passed the time by spitting on correctional officers and re-decorating with broken sprinkler heads. Nice guy. With his latest sentence now complete, thermos man is back on the streets, hopefully keeping

31:50all future containers strictly on the outside from now on. Look at that, ladies and gentlemen, that x-ray, oh my gosh, unbelievable. You can't make this stuff up. Why? Couldn't even imagine. Couldn't even imagine. All right, ladies and gentlemen, that's all we have for you today. I will see you when I return from my little golf adventure. I will keep you updated. Have a wonderful weekend. We'll see you Monday and remember the Constitution matters.