The Lost Fundamental: One Simple Move - Better Golf Forever with Tony Manzoni (RIP)

0:00Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing. Another checkered flag for the books. Time to celebrate with Chamba. Jump in at chambacasino.com. Let's Chamba. No purchase necessary, BTW Group. Boy, we're prohibited by mom. CtNc, 21 plus sponsored by Chamba Casino. Warning, the following Zippercruder radio spot you are about to hear is going to be filled with F words. When you're hiring, we at Zippercruder know you can feel frustrated for Lauren even. Like your efforts are futile. And you can spend a fortune trying to find fabulous people, only to get flooded with candidates who are just fine. F**k. Fortunately, Zippercruder figured out how to fix all that. And right now, you can try Zippercruder for free. At zippercruder.com slash zip. With Zippercruder, you can forget your frustrations, because we find the right people for your roles fast, which is our absolute favorite F word. In fact, four out of five employers who post on Zippercruder get a quality candidate within the first day. Fantastic. So whether you need to hire four, 40, or 400 people,

1:03get ready to meet first rate talent. Just go to zippercruder.com slash zip to try Zippercruder for free. Don't forget that zippercruder.com slash zip. Finally, that zippercruder.com slash zip. Hi, this is Fred Green of Golf Smarter with our spring back into golf season with the late Tony Manzoni. This episode was the third time Tony returned to our show. We're bringing back every conversation we had with Tony in order before he passed away in 2018. To learn more about Tony and our tax deductible fund created in his memory to benefit the first T of Coachella Valley, please go to golfsmarter.com. There you'll find as much as we could find about Tony online and links to his book, The Lost Fundamental, One Simple Move Better Golf Forever. It's available on Amazon and paperback and the Kindle format. His DVD of the same name can now also be seen online through our private channel. To gain access, please write to me directly via email

2:04golfsmarterpodcast at gmail.com or click on the hayfred button at golfsmarter.com. Enjoy. Golf Smarter number 291 published on July 26, 2011. One Simple Move Better Golf Forever with Tony Manzoni. This is Golf Smarter. Sharing tips and insights from golfers and golf professionals to help lower your score. It's worked for your host, Fred Green. Welcome back to the Golf Smarter podcast, Tony. Hey Fred, how are you? I am so glad to hear your voice once again. We had such a great time when we came down to Palm Desert and spent that morning with you. Thank you so much. My buddy Neil and I came down to Palm Desert and played some golf. But before we even started our golf, we got a chance about an hour, hour and a half to give Neil a lesson. A Neil had never had, he's been playing golf most of his life. He's never had a lesson.

3:06This is the first time that he'd ever had a lesson. And I was able to capture it on video with two different cameras running at the same time. So I'm very excited to announce that not only is this podcast now available, but a video of Neil's lesson given by Tony Manzoni, the very first lesson on video by Tony Manzoni has been posted to YouTube and the Golf Smarter TV channel. I'm so excited. Thank you. That was great fun. I'll tell you that and Neil responded. I wish I could get everyone to do it that quickly. It really was terrific. Yeah, and it was funny because all during the round of golf that we had that day in 35 mile an hour wins. He was so focused on what he had learned from you that morning and even after around it, that he didn't say, just don't write down my score. I don't want to know about score. I said, good for you, because you're working on something. And then after the round of golf, we went back to the driving range and he worked even harder on it and one more thing. He had never gone to the driving range after a round of golf.

4:08Is there a lot of value for players? Because we always see the guys on the tour. They go to the driving range after a round of golf. Is that a good thing for us to do? Oh, sure, because you have a real clear memory of what just transpired on the golf course and some of the things that didn't work out. And that's where you work a lot. I mean, Ben Hogan was one of the first pros to do that. When he got through with a round of golf and shot an incredible score, in most cases, it's filled out their practicing because he had a tour and that he didn't like or so far. So it's very beneficial for people to do that at any level. Fabulous. Well, let's talk about congratulations. Your book is now available. And we have it on our website at golfsmarter.com and our golfersmart, we're going to feature it in the golfersmart and it's going to be highly visible. It's called the Lost Fundamental. One simple move, better golf forever. And that really is your theory, huh? It's if you understand the move, you can adjust it yourself

5:10and it's going to change your game. Well, it's very simple. And when you purchase the book, and I hope you will, for a number of reasons, I think you'll be amazed at the brevity of the book. And I did that intentionally. I've only had one negative comment of all the people I've sent this book to, and I've sent it to a lot. One fellow that thought it was more of a pamphlet. And it really is. And when I was writing the book, it was becoming a great American novel. And Paul Servantes, who was very helpful in the writing of his book, helped me reduce my thoughts to make them simple. And I can tell you that I've had more people write me and say, thank you for making this thing so simple. Because most golf books, you start falling asleep because they give it to such a detail. And I really believe that if you do certain things in the golf swing, there's a domino effect that happens. And we don't have to deal with those pieces.

6:11The cause of the effect is everything. So if I can set you up to the golf ball properly, and you finish in a position relative to the ball properly, a lot of things are going to occur. And that's what I find is happening. Well, and it's not just that the book is brief, but the descriptions are fairly brief. I mean, you can go through two pages and get two or three descriptions of what you are trying to explain, which, again, I think is incredibly helpful. Well, that was my intention is to say it again. And then say it again. Because really, there's just a few core moves that you have to learn. And gosh, it's like a marathon. And you could see with after Neil, I mean, he had some tremendous shots. And no size, then, with great trajectory, after just a few minutes of do this, do that. And he got right into it. Well, he did. And when he made a shot, when we were playing together, he knew what he did right and what he did wrong

7:13after each shot. It was really fascinating because I've seen people who had taken lessons and were working on so many things at once, but it just seemed so simple to him, so clear that with every shot that he took, he got it. And he knew that he had to adjust. Yeah, as I told him, you can either be a disconnector and rotate the arms or you can be connected and rotate the body. And actually, when you pull the arms down in the down swing and detach them from the body, that's when thin, that shots occur because it holds you behind the ball. So you can play the game of golf and not blame your swing so much as just one action that you're doing, that you need to not do. And that would be to stay connected and not drop the arm. We all played golf for those of us that have played golf for a long time. We were taught to do that, pull the arm down, hold down on the ball, hit down on the ball, all those faces. And what it does is it just gets one part working

8:14that's the arms and hands where the body just stalls out. So we're losing all the power of the core. And I wish I had just discovered this a little bit earlier in my life than now, but it's improved my game dramatically. I'm getting the most so much farther than I have in say 30 years. And I find that with all my students. That's really unbelievable that you're getting more distance. Neil definitely was getting more distance. Although, I don't know why, but I was still out driving in that day. And he goes, well, how come you're out driving me? I said, because I'm older than you. It's like, wait a minute, that's not right. So let's go over this. Also, let me just say the other part about the book that I found so much fun. First of all, there's photographs. So you have a really clear description of exactly what you're talking about. But then at the end, you have stories of people that you've come across and people you've met and dedicated the book to. So really, the book flies right by. It's really, really helpful.

9:16And that's one of the things that I think that people should be checking this book out. It's a worthwhile, it's not an investment, but it's definitely worth coming to golfsmarter.com and checking out the Lost Fundamental by Tony Manzoni. It's a really helpful book. There have been a lot of golfsmarter listeners who've been in touch with you, haven't they? Oh, absolutely. I had a tremendous amount that I talked with via email or that have come down physically and taken a golf lesson from me. We had a golf school called the Single Pivot Golf School. We could five schools and they were really, really well received. But I continually get a mail from folks that have heard about me on golfsmarter. I had no idea that you had such an audience. It's incredible. Well, it's an active group and they're passionate about their golf and that's why I think that they reached out to you because you're pretty clear on what you're talking about and it's not too convoluted.

10:18There's not a lot going on at once. I hope so because that's my intention. I was like a lot of instructors for years just kind of pontificating all this golf dogma and you can see the people's eyes just glaze over and no one was going to say, no one is going to tell you, gee, I don't know what you mean. They're just going to let it go with their head and then you'll never see them again. So I realized early on in my golf teaching that there had to be a better way than this. And then luckily for me, I started looking at Ben Hogan and reading everything I could about the math and that's how I formed in this method because it really is born out of that period of time. I'll tell you, it's interesting because when I'm directing a video shoot or when I'm doing the shoot when I'm the camera person or I have multiple cameras going, anything like that and that's pretty much what my career has been is a recording engineer, both video and audio. It's very hard for me to concentrate on the content

11:20while I'm doing it. So when I'm recording somebody else, I'll miss a lot of what the conversation is because I'm watching the dials and knobs and everything to make sure that the production value is right. I can't believe that as far as I know, I only took away from Neal's lesson. I took away two major points that when we play golf that weekend, we played two rounds after that on one day right after the next. How much straighter the ball was, the ball flight was for me. I generally have a slight fade to the ball. I was hitting the ball much straighter because of two things that I picked up from the lesson. One is on my backswing as much as I try to keep my lower body quiet, I still have a tendency to have my left knee bend in pointing across my body. But when God from you was keeping the left knee pointed straight,

12:21straight ahead, and that's quick. That was huge for me. You know, it stabilizes the stance and it allows you not to put weight on the right side which we really don't want to do. We want to stay on the front side a weight-wise effect. When we set to the ball, we brace left and then as we coil the body, it displaces the weight backwards via the right shoulder right here. We actually put more weight against the brace and steepen the brace of the right leg. That makes the right leg really light. Now you have to do from that point there because you're at impact already. From there you just rotate your upper body, the legs stay because they're underneath you. They stay right with you. And it's just so much simpler to get to the left side, totally to the left side where your chest is really left with a target. When you're moving side to side, it's really hard to get to that point for anybody, really. Unbelievable.

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15:44That's right, free at zippercruder.com slash zip. That zippercruder.com slash zip. Zippercruder.com slash zip. Now, you talked about Hogan shooting into the fifties. You actually have shot in, you were telling me this one story. I'm still trying to get the full grasp of this, what's your lowest round? A 61, and it was on a funny day because the day before the club announced to me that they wanted to put up some kind of a biography of myself and my past in the paper. And they were hiring me as they had professional. This is going to be my first job as a head professional. I had a big party the night before and a lot of paths on the back and the next morning, the manager told me, well, wait a minute, now we spoke a little too soon. We have to talk to one more applicant. And as it turned out, they chose the applicant. Why did you shoot a 60? No, you just had more experience.

16:45But not only did I get the job, but they announced to me that he was bringing his own staff and so I was going to be out of a job of 30 days. So a couple of, yeah, I know. It's really, I can remember it. A couple of members just come up, let's go out, let's go play. So we played the golf course and it was kind of a blur to me. When I put it on in the last hole, I said, you know, you just broke my Ontario's record, you shut 61. Well, first of all, we mentioned in the same category with Ken of Interior, you know, I should have been fallen to my knees and thanked God, but just like all golfers, the first thing that's eaked out of my P-brain was, she and I didn't burn you a par of five, which I had, you know, you know, I had to make a lot of money. That was my next question. You really were alive. I was sad to find it. Right, is that really true that you were, you'd like that, oh, there was one hole I should have had. I should have what it could have, right? Yeah, we all do that. I say that to my golf team all the time, you know, no matter what we do out there, we always come back with, I could have done this, you know. Sometimes we're not really thankful for the blessings

17:47we give what it comes to call. Did you really not realize how you were shooting during the round? I had no idea. In fact, to this day, I have very little memory of it. I was in such a funk about not only getting losing my job or anything, but the night before, you know, I had all these close friends patting me on the back, telling me great job and all these things. Now I had to go back and tell them, hey, I'm not working on it all the day anymore. This is gonna be the shortest job career of all time. You know, I mean, now I look back at it and I laugh about it, but then it was pretty serious stuff. Wait, now I gotta get the time frame correct here. You had the big party and the next day you went out and shot a 61? Well, yeah, the next day, I couldn't wait to get to the course. I had all these ideas I was gonna do. You know, we just had a show, the previous process, everything. I mean, almost took the pain off the walls, but I had an idea, all the things I was gonna do and then I was put on hold until the afternoon.

18:47This is don't worry. We've got one more applicant, no big deal. And of course, when the manager came in about one o'clock on the afternoon, his face was white because I knew, he couldn't even look at me and when he announced to me that now I was good and I have jobs. So the celebration was not about shooting 61. The celebration was because you had, you had gotten your first head pro job. That's correct. That's correct. And you went out and shot a 61 after all that celebrating and it was a competitive round. No, it was just around a couple of members just felt so bad for me. This is come on pro, let's go out and play because they heard what had happened. A lot of people at the club had said great job. We're really happy to have you as our new pro, but the management company which owned the golf course had made the decision to hire the fellow that had more experience and I understood that, but it still, it looked like that cake on the groin and I can tell you that. So when I went out to play, that was on my mind. What am I gonna say? How am I gonna get a job all these things?

19:49So I was kind of playing from my subconscious, which is what we really need to do, obviously. And as a turn on, I shot a great score. I think that I'm pretty sure that record is still in place. At the Almeden Country Club, is that what it is? So you don't remember the round. I mean, you can't tell me, do you know how many parts that you had in that round? Or how many? No, I wouldn't. I all I know is I was aware that I had not a party to par five. That's the only thing I was aware about, but you know, I may obviously made a lot of birdies, but I should have one. Yeah. I don't believe I made any bogeys. I think I hold out from the fairly ones for a two on a par four. So you had one eagle, you think you had one eagle, right? Yeah, the rest of it was birdies, I think. And really, I'd love to be able to say, well, I had 10 birdies, but I don't remember it because it wasn't in my mind or in my heart while I was doing this.

20:53I was just thinking of how embarrassed I felt and how I was going to tell all my friends. Well, I spoke too soon. And I really hadn't spoke too soon. I was told you'd have to job, okay? But, you know, it was just an awkward position to be in. And then of course, now I'm out of a job of 30 days. I'm a young guy and he said, be able to go out and have fun time and play golf and do that. And now I'm panicking, do you know, I don't have a job. So it was just an extreme set of circumstances that created this Marvel's Round of Golf. I can't say that I was practicing really hard before an event. I went in this, although I played all this, you know, as an assistant pro, I played all this all the time. So, and that was my home course. But 61 to 61, I don't care if you're playing measure golf. So there's gotta be a lesson in there somehow, somewhere about not paying attention to your score.

21:54Oh, there's no two ways of bonnet. I mean, I'm sure the listening audience will be nodding their head. Sometimes you don't feel real good. Or maybe you've been all a little late and had a few too many cocktails and the next day you go out and shoot a great round. And I think it's because we're not so conscious of what we're doing or trying to do anything. We just go ahead and swing in and let, and getting out of the way of ourselves. And I think the turning pros have a way to do that where they let the subconscious take over. Anytime you do anything consciously, I think you get a little bit awkward. And so when we're learning how to play golf, we've got to do the learning of the driving range. And then we've got to trust the fact that we know what we're doing and go out of the golf course and just get target oriented and let it go. And that's easier said than done. That's the question. Yeah, I have a friend, John Leeland, who writes a blog called joy of golfing.com. Not breaking 80 with joy and learning. He's never had the ability. He's never broken 80 in any of his rounds.

22:56And just recently he had the round, the front nine of his life. And he got, he took a peek at a scorecard and started figuring out what he needed to do. Just to say consistent with this and how he could do it. I think he shot a 38 or a 39 on the front. So he's like, this is it. This is the round I'm gonna do it. And of course, he shot an 83, which is probably one of his better rounds ever, but still, once he started figuring out what he needed to get, the pressure was on and just no way it's gonna happen. Sure, well, there's so much written by so many and this psychologist, these people that feel they haven't be happy when you go, there was one brother, I can't recall his name, but this is a guru who's told him that have a smile on his face no matter what happened. Well, near the end of the round, he looked like a lunatic. I mean, this big grin that didn't relate to anything as he did play pretty well. But the next week when he tried it, it didn't work at all.

23:57And you know, those kinds of cliched things never work. It's not that. And there's not that kind of a button because, again, that's a conscious thought to do something. It's just a feeling, it's like putting, you know, I tell my students, if you don't feel like you're gonna make the button, you can have the pure stroke of the world, that's not a little bit. And if you feel like you're gonna make the button, you're not so consumed, we'll take it back straight or do this or do that. You just roll the ball like you did when you were a kid and didn't understand the button. You just had a stick and a ball and you hit the ball. There's a lot to that. But it's so hard, once you get some information, it's so hard to digest it and not keep regurgitating it mentally. And that's what we all do. And that's kind of why I like what I, but the method I've gone because it's pretty simple stuff. It's not a lot of how to do things. And that's, I think that's the hard part about this game is letting go of trusting.

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27:04get ready to meet first rate talent. Just go to zippercruder.com slash zip to try Zippercruder for free. Don't forget that zippercruder.com slash zip. Finally, that zippercruder.com slash zip. So the last couple of minutes we have available and actually there's more than a couple of minutes, but I want to really dig into your theory and loss fundamental here. And why it works versus what all the other instructors are pounding on us on TV and in print and our videos and everything else, you seem to think that this is the kind of fundamental that once you understand it, you can correct yourself and you don't need to work with a pro all the time. Our end of Zippercruder's form we're playing off of one axis and we're connecting the arms to the body and rotating around that axis. That's primarily what we're doing. Instead of shifting the weight to the right leg and then back to the left leg, which is, you know,

28:04it has been preached in the last few years but many, many years ago, it wasn't preached. Because if you look at Jack Nicholas, if you look at Arnold Palmer, if you look at Ben Holden, those are all great players and they did not move to the right. Now they made fault they were, but they were all rotating. They're all in that barrel, okay? So if we eliminate that compensational move that we have to make from the right side back to the left, okay? And if we brace up against impact and merely coil from that point, if the left arm stays connected to the body and we uncoil, the club's got to come back to the starting position, time and time and time again, opposed to throwing a club off of your body with your arms and because the head of the club is heavier than the handle, the club head is going to rotate. So the club's going to be either open or closed most of the time and therein lies the big problem. So you take that and then that transitional move of shifting away from all of us, all on the right side to all of us, all on the left side, my gosh,

29:05that's just too much to do in the middle of second. And that's why most people, they look ill. If we have a driving range at the college and you watch most people, they're on the right side when they hit the ball. They're just hanging back as most people do and someone will say, shift your weight, well, that's the problem. They shifted their weight to the right side and that is why they can't get off. You know, unless you're nearly over somebody like that, a young guy that has total control of their body, you're gonna be hanging back and so you never hit it with your core. You never get the power that's within you. That's the thing that happens immediately when I start teaching people, they hit the ball higher and farther and with no side spin. And they look at me like, why isn't someone told me this? Well, it's been out there for a long time. It just hasn't been articulated in a simple form. I also found myself after Neil's lesson that I was in a much more balanced position at finish than especially with my driver because usually for some reason,

30:06why would we do this? When I have my driver in my hand, I swing harder. Not faster, I swing harder. And after the swing, I am off balance and falling away from the ceiling. When the arms go first, when the arms go first, the body goes back. That's why in one era, your head moved away from the target on the down swing and you ended up in the seat position. But with the rotary swing, everything's moving through the ball. I mean, with an antifissure, I'm saying it was one of the greatest ball strikers I think of all time. Everyone says she looked like she was looking at the target when she hit the ball. That's exactly what she was rotating towards the target. So she wasn't working underneath, she was working the level through the ball. I mean, you could tremendous power this way. And on top of it, you could accuracy because the left arm's not rotating. It's pressing against the chest, the chest turns open, the club head hits the ball. The feeling is a lot like how a hockey player hits the puck with a stick. It's that same rotational motion.

31:06And that's how hockey player is most of them are pretty good golfers. Hmm. The other thing that Neil was very impressed with, well, I think it was almost an epiphany, is the point that you were making to him about the fact that hitting the ball, making contact with the ball is not the end of the swing. No, absolutely, that's the middle of the swing. The ball is a point of reference to a line the club to, but it cannot be a target. If you're focusing on the back of the ball, hitting the back of the ball, you're gonna decelerate the club. We all decelerate to some form. Everyone does, the best player in the world. But you're literally decelerate. You're gonna shift the thing down. And your body's gonna stop. What we wanna do is we wanna rotate past the golf ball and the last thing that hits that golf ball is that club hit. So you're moving through it as you hit it. Now you hit it, now you hit it with your core and you're gonna get, you're, you get totally on the left side. You know, in my concept, you're 60, 40 to start, 70, 30 at the top. But you still gotta get to 90, 9 plus.

32:07You still gotta get against that left side prior to hitting the golf ball. Not after hitting the golf ball, prior to hitting it. So by getting closer to that number, that 90 number by because you're in the 70s, you get against that left side and through it quicker. The center of gravity of the body of every human being is a couple inches below the navel. The closer that center of gravity is to the pivot leg, which is the left leg, the faster you pivot. It's just, that's just, that's science. That's not me, okay? So Ben Hogan's great players, whether they felt it or what, but they knew when they were against that left side earlier, they could hit the ball quicker, faster and straighter. And that's what this is about. It's, it's just, it's almost path. And it, it, it's simplicity. It helps people that aren't, don't have great by hand coordination. Hit this golf ball and put some compression against it. And that's what, that's what, that's what this is all about.

33:07You can also hear it once you've made contact with the ball and you've hit it properly. You can definitely hit the ball. You can hit the ball. You know, I hit, you know, I hit and dip it ball. Yeah. When you put the club behind the ball, as I said to you in nail, if I were to bring the club right straight back to this, in motion, I would hit the dip and then I hit the ball. So you, we've got a, we've got to move a little forward so that we can hit the ball on the dial. So I can then dip it. So there, there's a forwardness and the motion on the dial. So if you stayed behind the ball, like we've all been told, you're going to hit behind the ball. Because that's, that's where the bottle of the swing is. So you've got to move that bottom a little forward. No matter if you shift to the right or the left, you've got to end up against the left when you hit it. So this, I think a lot, a lot of the great left side players realize that if I stayed, if they stayed against the left and coiled their body and then uncoiled it, they can make contact more consistently. And I think that's what I, I see and what I hear what I'm giving to us. I can hear a ball do it.

34:10And, and also I need to get this clarified because it was a point that you're making when you were speaking with Neil about having your, for a right-handed golfer, your right shoulder pointing down the line towards your target when you're finished with your swing. And yet I've heard so many people talking about having your belt buckle pointing at the target. Well, we're on a line doing our core through an impact. And you could watch anybody into it, especially the ladies, because they're more flexible than men. But everybody's chest is left at the target. And, and, and you, you want to turn as far left at the target with your chest as long as you left arm is connected, it'll be coming behind that movement. You want to turn as far left as you can. And just like in the back seat, when you coil one way, you get your back to the target. When we go through the ball, we want to get our chest left at the target with the right shoulder pointing at the target. And it doesn't hurt the back to do this, because that's how we're built. It's when you drop those shoulders down, OK?

35:12And you, and the left shoulder goes up. And the right shoulder goes down. It's different than at address. Now you're going to be tweaking your back. I don't believe in tilting the shoulders at all. It's also, and it's also because I think you hit your back. And not only that, but the width of your swing, it's narrower, and the wider the path, the farther the hit. So we were rotating a little bit more level than the arms that follow the body around. And you end up around the body instead of in front of the body. When I first looked and tried golf, it was finished real high with the hips, not anymore. And you don't see anybody finishing high with the hips, or most not very many if they do it all. And we should also establish some credibility here beyond your 61 and all the work that you've done. You're the coach of the College of the Desert Golf Team. And you were telling me about the dynasty that you have with that program. What is it?

36:13The program is won the regionals. How many years in a row now? 23 years straight. And remember, this is a two-year school. So we've got a new golf team every two years. So we're doing something pretty good now. And you've been with the program for 18 years? I've been teaching the golf team for 18 years. It's been with the College 25. For my 18 years, I've won three-state championships, 18 college championships, and numerous regional championships. And it's not just me, obviously. We have great weather here, great golf courses. I guess some good players. But I think that I'm good at mentoring. I'm good at making what feels helpful with themselves on the golf course. And that leads us right back to want to wrap this up and let people know once again. Go to golfsmarter.com and please purchase Tony's book for a number of reasons. One, it's going to improve your golf game. Number one, it's going to improve your game.

37:13Also, this is self-published by Tony. He's doing this on his own. That's why we don't have it on Amazon. That's why it's not unaudible. But it is right through Tony himself. The book is $20 and is $4.95 for shipping within the United States. Outside the United States, it's going to be a little more for shipping. But it is so simple, so clean and so helpful, so clear, so concise. It's called the Lost Fundamental. One simple move, Better Golf Forever, by Tony Manzoni with Paul Servantes. Tony, as always, I really enjoy having you come on to Golfsmarter. Thank you so much for sharing all your information with us. Well, I thank you to your program. It's just fantastic. And what a wonderful thing to be able to download crazy people like myself and other people and get some golf information. And have some fun with one of those parts. Well, you know, these crazy people we flock together. That's right now. Take care of yourself.

38:21I hope your winter was tolerable and that everyone in your circle is safe and well. And now that most of us have adjusted our clocks so that we have additional light every day, we have more time available to practice and play. My favorite time of the year is I've never been a huge fan of early morning golf. Actually, I'm not a big fan of early mornings anymore either. As you're now enjoying our annual spring into golf season with Tony Manzoni, I am so excited to let you know that I'll be back in mid-April with an update as to what my off season has been like and some big announcements about golf smarter for 2026 and beyond. I truly appreciate your continued support and patience this winter. It thrills me to no end that you're still enjoying our Mulligan's episodes. Even though most of what we're sharing is at least 10 years old. Two more reasons why I love evergreen golf podcasts. You can hear them again and they're still relevant. As always, please feel free to reach out to me

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