The Epstein Documents: FBI Interview Memo Describes Massage Allegation During Trump Call (3/11/26)

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1:00What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Leading up to the election of 2024, all we heard from multiple people within the Trump administration was how they were going to release the Jeffrey Epstein files on day number one of them taking office. And it's not like it was just some off-hand remark. It was said multiple times by multiple people while on the campaign trail they campaigned on it and not only that, but Trump himself said that he was going to release the files multiple times. Then they get into power and they start their whole entire song and dance with the binders and how they're working to get all of this stuff ready for release. Then comes July and we get the memo. And according to that memo, all of a sudden there's nothing left to see here. There is nobody left to investigate. Oh, and by the way, Jeffrey Epstein was just a sick pervert who was acting on his own.

2:02And at the time, people were very confused, right? Like why the hell would Donald Trump who says that he's going to release all this stuff while on the campaign trail, walk all of it back now and be so adamant that he's not going to release it. And if that wasn't bad enough, Donald Trump became hostile to anybody who wanted transparency. So of course, people had questions. What's Donald Trump so worried about? Why doesn't Donald Trump want to release these files? Well, I think we know now. And look, I'm not going to sit here and tell you there's some smoking gun that points to Donald Trump taking part in the abuse. I have no idea. And I think that's the biggest problem that we have no idea after all these years what happened. But one thing that we know for sure is that this kind of stuff that we're going to talk about in this episode is very embarrassing. And certainly a reason for Donald Trump to try and keep these files buried forever. They're embarrassing as hell.

3:02But I think that the worst political decision that maybe I've ever seen domestically occurred with the Epstein files. And instead of getting out ahead of it, instead of, you know, having a press conference or whatever, bringing the survivors in, having them part of it, he just keeps doubling down, saying that it's nothing more than a hoax, and that there's nothing left to investigate. So obviously that's going to drive people to dig deeper, especially with all the evidence that's out there. So today, we have an article from Deli Mel and the headline, Jeffrey Epstein, ordered 16-year-old victim to undress and give him a massage while he was on speaker phone with Trump, newly released files claim. And so look, right off the bat, that's not illegal, at least from Donald Trump's perspective. He's on the phone, no big deal. But when you look at the overhaul story and you look at all the different times that Donald Trump has caught up in this and how embarrassing all of this is,

4:05it doesn't take a genius to figure out why Donald Trump is throwing such a fit about these documents coming out. And I don't blame him, right? I'd be embarrassed too. But at the end of the day you did what you did, you hung out with who you hung out with and you just need to own it. But instead all these people want to lie, they want to run away from this and they want to act like nobody's ever going to call them out. But I think that we've reached a point where that's over and done with. And no matter how many distractions are thrown in front of us, people are going to continue to demand answers and people are going to continue to demand justice. Now the question is, will we get it? That's the real question. This article was authored by Daniel Bates. Jeffrey Epstein ordered a 16 year old girl to give him a massage while he was on the phone with Donald Trump. Moments before sexually assaulting her, an FBI memo newly released by the Justice Department Claims.

5:09In an interview with investigators, the teenage alleged victim said Epstein urged her to hurry, saying, let's go. Let's go before climbing onto a massage table as she got undressed. Sounds about right. That tracks what everything we know about scumbag Epstein and what he did to people. Epstein was speaking to Trump on speaker phone at the time, according to her account. And again, look, that doesn't make Trump guilty. But it does blow up all of his claims, right? Of, oh, I really didn't know Jeffrey, we weren't that good of friends. I mean, come on between the mounds of horseshit that we were served up during the Clinton deposition to the mounds of horseshit that Donald Trump served us. It's almost too much to deal with. Listen, all of you are lying, okay? All of you, you were all close to Epstein, you were all real friendly with him. And you all had an idea what bro was up to. And I think one of the most frustrating things is that we all know that. But there's no actionable intelligence to act upon.

6:12And that's not because there's a lack of evidence. It's because there's a lack of an investigation. That's the big problem here. And of course, Trump is doing his part to make sure that continues. It's unclear from the interview when the call ended or how she knew it was Trump. The memo describing the interview is among 50,000 Epstein related files released by the Department of Justice last week. Part of the wider disclosure of records tied to the disgrace pedophile who hanged himself while awaiting trial in 2019. Oh, did he Daniel Bates? You've been covering this case long enough to know better? Yeah, he hanged himself. Okay, cool, I guess. I guess we're not reading the same documents. I guess you think Tova Noel and Michael Thomas are on the up and up. And I guess you think that all these coincidences just happen to happen to the same person all at the same time.

7:13Okay. The same tranche of documents also includes a separate allegation from an older alleged victim who claimed that she gave Trump a foot massage on Epstein's plane. The newly released files also describe another woman who claimed she was between 13 and 15 when she bit Trump's penis as he allegedly tried to sexually assault her. And that's the one we covered previously. The woman from South Carolina who says that she was abused by Trump. White House denies all of these claims and denies the latest allegations in a statement to the Daily Mail. Well, of course, what do you think they're gonna say? Yeah, that definitely happened. Donald Trump got his weeny bit, punched him girl in the face after he was assaulting her. That's all true. I mean, of course they're not gonna say anything about it and deny all of it. And honestly, I always find it pretty funny when you have these news outlets. Ask the White House or, you know, the royal family or whatever

8:13for a comment during a situation like this as if, as if they're gonna say anything besides the Candace statements that they release through their, you know, spokespeople or whatever. One thing I can tell you for sure, Donald Trump has taken his own advice and he's moved on. He wants nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. White House press secretary Carolyn Levitt said these baseless accusations from decades ago are backed by zero evidence or facts. The baselessness of them is corroborated by the fact that Joe Biden's Department of Justice had these documents and did nothing with them because they know the truth. President Trump did nothing wrong. Well, okay, let's have a full-on investigation. So that means that Caroline Levitt and the Trump administration will 100% be on board with a special counsel or some kind of tribunal is that what they're saying? Because there's nothing here, right? And folks, don't get it twisted.

9:15I'm not just talking about looking into what the Trump administration did. I'm talking about everybody going all the way back to the first Clinton administration and anybody who was involved in this, hold them accountable. I don't care if it's Donald Trump. I don't care if it's Bill Clinton. I don't care if it's the Pope. I don't care if Jesus himself is involved. Whoever's involved held accountable and the way to do that at this point is to go after the systematic abuse that occurred because if we expose that, we're gonna expose everything. And I can tell you right now, without a shadow of a doubt, there is plenty of evidence of this cover up. And I think we've laid out our case pretty well over the last seven years. He has been totally exonerated by the release of the Epstein files while many prominent Democrats have not. Okay, where are the investigations, Caroline Levitt? If people are guilty, why is there no investigation into them?

10:16According to the FBI interview, the 16-year-old told investigators, she was a junior in high school in 2004 when she met a girl who recruited her to visit Epstein at his New York townhouse. Her first two visits were uneventful, but her third took a dark turn, she said. The victim recalled walking down a hallway and to the right was a massage room and a bathroom, the document reads, the victim remembered a bathroom with dark marble and bright lighting with a toilet in its own section. Epstein came into the room and he was like, let's go, let's go. Epstein got on the massage table and was on the speaker phone and called with Donald Trump. The victim started getting undressed and they started massaging them, the victim started massaging Epstein's feet and pointed to his back. The memo does not clarify how long Trump, who has strongly denied any wrongdoing with Epstein, was reportedly on the phone with Epstein, or if he was aware of what was going on and with whom,

11:19and that's the thing. This is scarless, right? It's salacious, but it's not actionable. The memo continues, Epstein grabbed her hand and escalated to the point where Epstein pulled her on top of them. Afterwards, Epstein gave redacted $300 to give to redacted. Epstein gave money to redacted in front of redacted, redacted, received $300 and redacted, received $300. According to the memo, the girl told the FBI, she went to Epstein's house multiple times until she was 19 and later recruited other girls for him. In her views with the second woman, state she was 29 when she began working for Epstein as a masseuse around 1993. She told the authority she traveled with them for six years, including going to his private island in the Caribbean, the document states, and massages his girlfriends as well as Trump. The document states that she massaged Trump's feet on the plane from Palm Beach to New York.

12:21So with that allegation, the woman is 29 years old, not underage, and according to this report, massaged Donald Trump's feet on the airplane. Not criminal, but embarrassing as fuck. And when you have a narcissist like Donald Trump, there is no length they will not go to try and keep themselves from being embarrassed. Flight logs from Epstein's plane, dubbed the Lolita Express, shows that Trump, as well as his son, Eric, flew on a flight dated August 13th, 1995 from Palm Beach to Titorboro in New Jersey. Epstein and his madam, you mean co-conspirator, general all-around Scuzzbag? Bipedal Serpent, that's what you mean, right? Glaine Maxwell were on board. It's unclear if this is the flight the second woman was referring to. The latest claim come as the DOJ released previously with held documents containing allegations that Donald Trump

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14:23and plenty more. So if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices, and meetings with your colleagues and at dinner parties, listen to Big Technology podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Grown-ups, try to see what I see. You see a rain cloud. I see an elephant in the sky. You see a motorcycle. I see a superhero on his way to save the day. Even if you can't tell he's a superhero like I can, you can see he's a person. So be patient and give him space. Keep your eyes out for motorcyclists. A message from the Virginia DMV. And the way to get rid of those claims and to throw water on them is to just release the files. But they refuse to do it. And not only that, but the way they're going about it. So brazenly, with no respect for Congress and certainly no respect for you and the survivors, they might as well not exist to the Trump DOJ.

15:29The Department of Justice did not publish them in its initial release of more than 3 million Epstein files earlier this year, but one document hinted at their existence. The woman who was allegedly interviewed on four occasions between August and October of 2019, but only a summary of one of the interviews was included in the Department of Justice publicly released tranche. The department is to review whether the Epstein files are withheld improperly after Democrats accused Attorney General Pound Bondi of suppressing allegations against the president. But Department of Justice officials have insisted the files were initially withheld merely because they were mistakenly categorized as duplicates. Have you noticed that all the mistakes bounced their way? Everything always ends up going towards the government? Oh, the cameras were broke. It was just an inconvenience and negligence on our part, and we had old equipment. And it just happened to break that one day. Oh, the guards fell asleep.

16:29That never happens, but, you know, that night, they happened to fall asleep. And now, of course, it's, oh, well, we forgot, or we messed up, and this was just a mistake. Sure it was. The three FBI interview report show the woman said she came forward after recognizing Epstein from a photo sent to her by a friend. She claimed that Epstein began abusing her from the age of 13 and arranged encounters with other men, including on occasion, when she was taken to New York or New Jersey to meet Trump. According to the interview summaries, which are known as FBI 302 reports, the woman alleged that Trump attempted to force her to perform oral sex on him during the meeting. She told the FBI that from the get-go, Trump didn't like that I was a boy girl, which the agent notes interpreted as meaning she was a tomboy. The summaries revealed the woman alleged that Trump got her alone in a room before telling her, let me teach you how little girls are supposed to be.

17:32She claimed that Trump then unzipped his trousers and pushed her head down. She was so disgusted that she bit the shit out of it. The notes add that Trump then allegedly lashed out and struck her saying, get this little bitch the hell out of here. The woman said that she and those close to her received threatening calls over the years, demanding that she keep quiet about the incident and that she believed these calls were related to Jeffrey Epstein. Now look, I know the Department of Justice wants to tell you that this is all just a mistake that these files weren't released, but how come all the mistakes always end up being related to Donald Trump? I mean, one or two times, okay, I get it, there's mistakes, there's a lot of documents, but every time you turn around, one of these files that's being pulled down has to do with something that's embarrassing to Donald Trump and it's all these little things that are circumstantial that add up to this being a cover up. And I think that the more they dig in and double down, the worse the optics become.

18:33And I'm not really in the prediction business, but my prediction is that as soon as this war winds down, the Epstein story is gonna flare back up because Donald Trump and his base might have moved on, but I can assure you that we haven't. All right, everybody, that's gonna do it for this one. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. Moro casino, American social casino. Welcome to Moro casino where the excitement never ends. With thousands of the hottest free to play social casino games, fastest payouts, and the best promotions in the industry, no tricks or gimmicks, owned and operated in the USA. Moro casino was a free to play social casino. No purchase necessary, 21 plus to play. Void with prohibited. Sign up today for a generous welcome bonus. Moro casino, American social casino. Download the Moro casino app today. Hi, this is Alex Cantrowitz. I'm the host of Big Technology podcast, a long time reporter and an on-air contributor to CNBC.

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