The Ceiling And Floor For Every NBA Team In The West | TD3 Clips

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1:00is in the culture of that team and all three outcomes. So, B-Souls, who is the first team up today? First team. Talk about them a lot today. The Lakers. Hmm. Floor. If things go poorly and they really miss LeBron, Walker Kessel got for red misses games and it's Caval Noony starting. What's the worst case scenario for this team? Playing team. I don't know if they'll be better than for you playing team. I think if Walker Hesler gets, has a serious injury. Or if it's something where it's not, if he plays like 40 games, he plays half the year, right? I think they definitely can be a playoff. I mean, we can't assume that for every team. We can't just say what the best players get. I'm just saying for him just because he has had injury concerns in the past. And he's coming off a year where he did miss the whole year because of injury. And so for them specifically, they can be down there. I think no matter what, you will have probably the most potent and hard to defend back court between Luca and Austin Reeves already.

2:02And that's going to be so hard to stop. I think maybe if Walker Kessel ends up either being missing games here in their order, just not necessarily living up to potential. Worst case scenario still just like looking at the math in terms of what makes a basketball team good. Big athlete defender got buckets all over the place between Luca and Austin Reeves. And a lot of filler guys in between your floor to me is you're a six seed. I think even you can be the Phoenix sons last year. That's even even healthy. There's a world where they could be a play in team. No, I don't think so. Even even healthy. If all if all the guys even healthy, if all the guys in between are are misses. Could you are you're asking for for Quinn Grimes to go back to a version of of of himself that he was. You're asking for for Cavaloon to step in as a as a as a in a backup role. You're asking for his I air williams to come in and do certain things. I think that there are about three to four players on this team that you are asking to not change who they are, but provide something that hasn't necessarily been there 100% of the time.

3:06I mean, okay. So yeah, if all the players are good, they can be really bad. I don't think any was split. That's actually the cards though. I think floaking. If you want to say seven seeded to Florida, I think that's fine. That it probably because of injuries and lack of big men depth specifically, but I do think seven seeded to Florida is that's fair to say. Sealing. I mean, they could win a chip this year. You think what you think when I think you think the ranges. You think it's the grand Canyon is this bitch. Yes, I see. He is the fourth type sheet. This brother's not sure. Yes, he sees everything bro. Everything is possible. He's the doctor straight. He's all the more by every day. Fuck it. Sealing would have shipped my guess. No, I don't think so. I think they can go. I think with Luca and Reeves and I'm not as scared of Reeves and the playoffs this year as I have been in years past. I do think that Luca always has a fantastic time playing against OKC. We will see how San Antonio progresses throughout the year, especially with their guard

4:07dynamic. But outside of those two, everybody else in the West is very gettable. And I think that the Lakers can be there. And if all the players do click and we do get just another not even like massive leap, but just step forward from from Kessler, a back court scoring 60 and one of the better room protectors in the league. I think can take you a very, very long way. OK, I guess Sealing is champion. So there you go. I don't know man. Sealing is final. Sealing is final appearance. What does that say that? What did they win or lose? Sure. We can allow it to be optimistic. I think you can make the conference finals. That's like the absolute ceiling from my mind because there's too many variables between the filler guys like we mentioned that have to prove something that they haven't done in a minute. You're right when it comes to that. But finals. I really love. There's a team somewhere in there. OK. What's realistic? Third seed. The four three to five seeds. One of the teams in the second tier. I would say, yeah, I would say three seed is very realistic and second round exit.

5:13OK, respectable third seed second round exit to one of the real contenders. That's why realist. That's a good season. That's a good year one. Actually, we've been this team around who could do it. We've had three year ones already. Your respectable team that someone says don't let them get hot and then you see one of the teams that are real contenders and they're bludgeoning you. Yeah. OK, next team. Houston Rockets. Lower. I don't really see them being a play in team. I think regular season they're going to be way too competent to fall that low. With Fred and Steven Adams back, we know what their nucleus of this team can do with Kevin Durant there. I think their floor is like the sixth seed. I feel like their floor is a little bit higher on it. Sure. I think it's like the fifth seed. It's a little bit higher. Fifth seed. You won like 52 games last year without Fred and Steven Adams. So their floor if it's the games? Yeah. We win 51. Yeah. 53. I think they're exactly who we think they are. I think they're solid mid 50 low to mid 50 win team. Go to 50 wins. Yeah. I think honestly realistic.

6:14The only reason why I can see like the ceiling any higher is if a star or shingoon has like some drastic changes in figure. So 51. 51 to 55. I think they are who we think they are. They're a very good playoff team that won't compete with the top two teams. I don't think. But they're also not going to fall down to close the play in range. Also the stars they healthy to. That is true. That's Kevin Durant who's old as fuck but like around him they stay very healthy. Katie out of super healthy year too. All right. So floor 15 wins ceiling 52 realistic 51. Yes. Precisely. Real. Welcome to the four seed Houston Rock. They will be a good team this year. Yep. No doubt about it. Clam. Next. Dallas Mavericks going down to the middle tier. Now this is like true variance right here. Floor. Welcome back to the top five picks. Actually no because the new lottery odds floor you're one of those mid teams that get the good new lottery odds and you're picking number four in this year's draft. I don't even know if they have their pick out right. I don't forgot swapped. Yeah. Floor you're giving another team the hornets as it is.

7:17I don't remember. I can't. It probably would be the hornets. There's so many. Every every pick goes through like three teams at this fact. Yeah. The floor as you're giving some other team that has your pick swap a top four pick in this draft. They could just suck again. That's super possible. But there's still rebuilding. See just suck. I think if that happens in my mind the expectations I have for Cooper fight going to next year dramatically disappoints. Yeah. Actually though. This is Florida. I think I don't think still I don't think that's their floor. You think there's no might there's no chance they still suck. No. Okay. Then what's the floor? I think they see. It's a. It's a. It's a different. I'm trying to find the word. But it's not. Respectable play in team. I think I think they make the playing playing regardless. Of course the floor is playing to you. Yeah. I would say floor is ten. That feels ambitious. I just a lot of teams were going to say that about well there in ambitious team but the flesh I'm saying as a floor. I don't think they're guaranteed to be the playing. I think I like the odds that it happens.

8:18But to me the floor is lower because things could go maybe Cooper flags not ready to be a top 15 player. Maybe Kyrie Irving is 35 years old. The Derrick Lobby's never going to be healthy again. And Marijohnson's a rookie and Zachary should I still suck. Maybe all this happens. One of those things are like crazy. That is a definition of what a floor is. Yeah. So that was getting that can be the 13th super easy like that's in a deep conference. There's no guarantee it's a great team. I don't know. Like everything you're saying doesn't align with Cooper flagging. We're hitting on the list. Ready. If he's the same Cooper flag that we saw for the last two months of the year he's a fucking all star. You know, and that guy alongside someone else who can do a couple of German moves and shoot 40% from three. Kyrie we're not asking you to be like the same Kyrie at all. He be our version of Fred Van Vley and be simply a threat and read defenses. Yes, he can. But this team isn't just built out where they're like one Kyrie being a threat away from being good. Like there's still more swing factors that they go their way. This isn't a well built roster yet. For sure. I think it's long as Gafford is there and lively can so signs of being alive here and there.

9:19And what's the name Max Chrissy also he's good to you. You can start if you rich say sucks. That's cool. That doesn't really matter because you give up nothing for him. They think they yeah, they will make the plane. Yeah, I think they're playing guaranteed. There you go. The Giles prediction. Floren is playing team. Then ceiling. Can they get to the top six? No, they can't be. So they're ceiling is playing teams. I think they'd be seven. I don't think they're playing the game. It's seven. Yeah. No, I think that they will be a seven to ten team. Most likely probably ten like like nine or ten. Okay. If everything goes right, they'll be like the sun from last year. Exactly. They can be seven easy. What was the difference in seven and ten lashering games? The one with the second three game difference. Right. The floor 42 the ceiling 44. Now it's more than that. It's more than three games. Well, then do you think the realistic does this healing you think there's a 17? Realistic. Yeah, I think they're easy. They're trying to do.

10:19The barges were operating on here kill him. He's wager than man. All right. So you got eight seats for the Dallas Mavericks. Your destiny's written. All right. Next. Memphis Grizzlies. No, 15 seed is the floor. Yeah. Yeah. I guess the floor of Cam Boosler looks like a rookie and isn't ready to be a creator and Zachy D unfortunately is still very injury prone. You could once again just be a terrible team. That's fair. And if someone like Tyzerones I'll rate to take the load of being the number one point guard on a consistent basis, I can see that happening. My bad. 14 seed. Kings. Oh, the Kings exist. You're right. 14 seed is the floor. The Kings exist. You're right. That's an important thing to really clarify there. True. I don't want to disrespect the city of Memphis. LeBron James did it enough. I think we got to be make sure we're working to take care of last week. He did. Sealing. Eight. I think they could be a if Cam Boosler is ready to be like playing like not star production because he's a rookie. Whatever that looks like for a rookie and Edie's healthy being a really, really good 15 and 10. Tyzerones here. Tyzerones here.

11:20Tyzerones here. I think they could be the eight seed. So your cow does well. You're too leap. Your guy. See that happening. That's your guy. Eight. Die. I think I said if they are the sons of this year, I can see that as a ceiling outcome. Realistic. Probably the 11 seed. The first team out. Yeah. I don't think that they're going to be competing for a playoff spot for Rufuru, but they will. But if they are the first team to miss out, I'm not shocked. Yeah. Yeah. They will be extremely spunky. Yeah. Yeah. I think we do our predictions up with them then because I wanted to exist, but they're 11. That will be shocked at all. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Next. Lost Andrews Clippers fresh off the investigation. Brandon Ingram has a torn Achilles partially just partially. The floor is 15. The floor is this is an uttered fucking disaster. Ruée and Brooklyn as can't grab any rebounds. Derr is going is alone. Very small, very injury prone. Brandon Ingram exists somewhere in the ether. King Wagrid takes too much time to get going. He's a rookie.

12:21Maybe a terrible team, but could they be worse than the Kings though? Yes. Yes. Worst case scenario. I don't think they will be. They're coaching is too good, but like one Garland injury and they're worse than everybody. Okay. And Garland does get hurt. That is true. Yeah. I'm saying 15 is the floor. I'm investing absolutely zero stock. Realistic. I don't see that being a play in team honestly. I really don't see the ceiling there. If anything great. Is a is 11 playing so? Nope. Yeah. I think they were listening to ceilings like 11 seed. I think I agree. Which is quite pessimistic for a team that has an ulcer player, but yeah, they don't have much going on, bro. I really don't see the vision whatsoever. I don't know who their best defender is. I don't know who their best rebounder is. I don't know who's going to do a lot of big massive for this team. Y'all, it's not a them, but he's coming off of injury. So I think the answer to all your questions was Brooke Lopez and that's like a really way. Oh my god. Oh my god. See, that's what I didn't want to say. It's a terrible answer. Realistic. Fucking 13. Yeah, right in the middle. Low key 14. I guess I'd have in the Kings. Yeah, you put 14 on us.

13:23Damn. How pessimistic. What are you going to do? Someone's got to suck. We can put everybody to play in. All right. Next. Oklahoma City Thunder. Floor. You're backed up. You're backed up being on pace for a dynasty. Oh, I said floor. Sealing. I know. He's showing. Sealing. I know. He's showing. Sealing. Oh my god. Get it back. Well, I'm not. Sealing. You're back on pace and being a dynasty. You're back on pace to being the spurs. Winning championships multiple years. Being back in the finals over and over again. That's clearly in the cards of the ceiling. Yep. I agree. So 68 games is the ceiling. J.W. Health. You know, it's a junction year. Yeah. And not just champs. I think the framing of like a dynasty is back in the cards that we had that blip for one year. We're back to being in the long aided stretch of being the top team. I think it's the ceiling. Okay. So back to dynasty talks. Floor. What's the worst case scenario? Floor is a three-star. I think it's a three-star. I think it's a three-star. I think it's a three-star. I think it's a three-star. Floor is a three-seed and first on exit. And they get first rounded.

14:23It's just a three-seed for sure. I can see them being like three-seed. Maybe she's been healthy this entire time never seen anything like worth missing 20 games. That's like the only thing that I could see happening. I think the floor is two-seed. Who's passing them up? Besides the spurs. If the lakers have just like a last year. Bro. And I can see it happen. I'm just saying in the in the regular. We've seen this team even even though they won the title two years ago and were 24 and no last year. They they have injuries all the time. Like they they really really do battle with that. And the players still. I think though you have a lot of they've done a lot of shuffling of their of like the back end of their roster. And what if this is the year where at the start of the year those dead pieces don't come you know 100% ready to lock in. I can see a world where they still are very good and they know we're trying to play at this point in time. Not not to say that we're going to like take it easy but the lakers have a very good year.

15:26You can get to to the three-seed and all of a sudden you find yourself in the dog fight in the first round. I I can see that being the floor. I mean I'm optimistic about the lakers. I think there's almost no chance the lakers win 60 games. And I think for the OKC Thunder their floor is clearly like 61 unless shake. It's a cataclysmic injury which while that wild effect of that in. There's they don't lose games like that in the regular season because they lost Aaron Wiggins in Isaiah Joe and Lou Dort. Well stop the presses. I'm saying man. I think there's no chance they win less than 60 games in the regular season unless it's crazy injuries obviously. Same for everybody. They're just a regular season wins machine. They can definitely win less than 60. I'm sure it's almost 56. That would be crazy to me they win 56 games. I mean OK one it is a big difference. That would be crazy to me. But also and maybe they're exempt from it because that's at the top of the league but the whole league is different. You're not going to have as many games against just complete where the other team is completely mailing it in.

16:29True you will have you will have about five five to six more games that are actual NBA games. And I mean we see stuff happen all the time so I can't see them getting to 56 so the 60 is not that's not what I'm based in them off of obviously at this point. Their championship robust every single year. Yeah. She missed a lot of games last year. Jada was hurt for a majority of the year. Age of Metro always hurt 64 wins last year. 56 to me would be completely shocking. OK so what you want to put second two seed. Yeah I look here. I don't think any team has a chance of passing besides the Thunder. Besides the first blaze on two seed. Realistic. No I think they could drop. But realistic is probably 65 wins in a conference championship appearance. Yeah I would say one seed. Let's see what happens with them versus players who knows. Yeah. And like I mean realistic probably loses this person because they've shown no reason for us to pick them for real. Well I mean injuries in the seven seed. I mean injuries in the seven game series so like obviously I can make the case but for most people I think realistic would be losing to this person again.

17:30That's fair to say right now they're all. Yeah I mean I'm not going to be that person but you know some. Yeah. Yeah. Man that's a serious. A serious cinema. Man. Man that picture would be crying. Grabbing his. Yeah. So like this. Yeah that's massive. Yeah. He had a claw on his head. He thought it was free eats. That's crazy everybody besides Nick's fans did. What a crazy fucking run that was. Nobody was picking the Dicks. What an amazing run. Next. With Cricket Wireless you can count on reliable nationwide 5G because Cricket Wireless is on the 18T network which means you can start listening to that new album that just dropped at home while running errands and at the gym without any hiccups. Find plans with unlimited data for every lifestyle and price point. Switch to Cricket today. Granger knows if you're a procurement manager at an industrial manufacturing facility you're balancing inventory and budget while sourcing critical supplies across the operation.

18:33Too much inventory? Cost climb. Too little? Production slows. Granger's $2 billion in on-hand inventory helps you get what you need when you need it so you can help keep budgets balanced and lines moving. Call 1-800-GRanger. Click ranger.com or just stop by. Granger. For the once. Who get it done? New Orleans Pelicans. Oh, okay. 15. Four. I don't think they're bad. I don't think they're bad. I don't think they were more competent. I don't think the floor is that low. I do think they need to have a reminder the Kings exist. They can go banned from bail. That's a tough accusation. Roll the ball out. They can't. The Kings can. They can. I'm not going to have this argument. You for more than 15 more seconds. You know what you just said. They can. But they were in love last year and they're going to be better this year. Don't bring it up. No, they are not. Why would they be worse than last year? Oh my god. They're not going to be better than in love. Why would they be worse?

19:33Why are they going to be better? Because Joe Dumar said they were. Is everybody talking about it? The Zon Tamber is fully healthy. You two are coming in healthy again. Are you two really young guys? Are you two really young guys? Put it in a bathroom here. It's a deep basin. I'm going to have another good year. Fearful. They have a new head coach here who's going to place a better defensive infrastructure. Like they're not going to be as bad. They're going to be bad. We're not as bad. Hey man. 15s are going to be fine. I think that's the floor. I think things can get very late early for them. I'll say the floor is 13 to me. Yeah. 13s for you. I think they can get pretty low. And honestly, 13 to 15 is a very different. So what you say. Floor is what, back to number one, pick talks. Yeah. Oh, we can just put it that way. These teams are all going to be there. Yeah, they're going to be in there regardless. Let me see. I'm trying to see. I'm just trying to see what the difference is. The difference between those four wins, Lesher. Yeah. They can be four games worth. Which four wins isn't about? Let me look at that. That's nothing. Four wins is a decent amount. So we could basketball. Yeah, but they're all at least these are tanking. Like you need to try to catch them. These can't because the teams are tanking better.

20:34Yeah. It's hard to be the 15s. Like, low key is very hard to be the 15s. I'm saying, I don't think that that gap. I think four games is very attainable, especially when you know that the teams at the bottom are the teams in 14 and 15, the ones who did try very hard to be there when they're trying to be a little bit closer up. I think a lock can get caught in the shuffle. And the Pelicans can be 15. Okay. So Florida, let's just say worst team in the conference. Trash. Trash. Sure. There you go. Sealing. Playing. Is there stealing? Man, they have no ceiling. Oh my god. They're crushing. They have a house. There's no reason. I don't have to take away. What's the ceiling? There's nothing there. Tell us what you're seeing. There is nothing. Like. Yes. We'll see what's the realistic. No roof. I don't know relocation. Relocation is the real. It's the outcome. As you guys have team snatched from you by force. I mean, put them in Seattle. That's funny.

21:34There you go. Mexico City. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. There you go. Mexico City. That's tough. Minnesota Timberwolves. Lemmello and Scary Site. What's the ceiling? Sealing? Conference Final. It's appearance. Game 7. I never fight. I'm losing the shape. The conference finals again. I'll say seven games. Conference Final. They're not taking the Thunder to seven. You push in by. You have to take step forward. You push this thing as much as possible. Losing a shape again in the conference finals. That's their ceiling. Specifically, Western Conference Final's lose to Shay. Because that's anti-Awards Destiny in life. It's to be the Clyde Drexler to shave my clothes. What if they beat him in the second round? Down the nose. That's the blade. That's the blade. That's the blade. That's the blade. That's the blade. We talked about a month ago. That's his Destiny. It's to be the little brother in the shadow. They never get to beat him. That's his Destiny. He's not playing fair. Neither was Clyde.

22:34That was Dunkin' Real Good. Oh man. Clyde was Dunkin' Real Good. He was playing very fair. Has Ant reached Clyde's peak shit? No. No. Clyde couldn't go left. What do you think? What's the floor? Where's he scenario? Where's he scenario? Where's he scenario? Yeah, 60 first round exit? Yeah, you don't have a lot of variance to him, do they? Fifth, 60, something like that. Well, should we like... Lemme look, I've heard a lot. He's up and down. He's a different type of playstyle. Like, what if it does not mesh super well? Is that possible? James Hume is where Nose will join the Meanga like just being a mouse. It's tough. Should we assume it? There's guys just meshed together? Is there World War Desk? I think I'm very happy assuming it meshed as well. I think it will too. But for examining the floor in the... So how many... There's a hundred world. How many of them don't mesh? I don't know. Cuz I think... 20? I'm thinking like seven. I think seven. I think seven. I think seven. I think those two specific... Whether the rest of the team comes together, that's a different story.

23:36I feel like... I should learn by now that it's never that easy to seems. I'd never that easy to seem. I think the two of them though, at least offensively will mesh very well. But there's no at least, like, it's a whole team thing. Like the realities of doing that, like... I feel there's surely more than seven out of a hundred that doesn't work. I think it might not be them who... Those two specifically who end up being a fifth or sixth seed, but it's the depth around those guys and the Caminga coming up by the right. They're gonna be treacherous twins. Yeah, I think they're gonna be fine and keep them before we're gone. This is the other things in the back end that will... I agree. ...paint this game. You got a boy who, you know, takes too much food. Like, he's gonna be a problem, right? He might be fine. He might be an issue. You have no bench depth. It's Rudy is Rudy gonna be able to hold down the... What is Tarrishan and Junior gonna look like? You know exactly what he's gonna look like. I'm asking that question. You know exactly what it looked like. The same thing he said was like, what's your problem? At this point, we're gonna have to be in the middle of the season. And Tarrishan and Junior is gonna... Like, we're gonna have to watch him play. I'm gonna be like, oh, I'm genuinely surprised.

24:38Thank you for showing me that. Because I did not know that you could do this. That's why I'm at with Tarrishan and Junior. Yeah, fair. So... So, what's the... Sixth seed. Yeah, fifth, sixth seed. So I'm like that. I think they'd be playing. No, probably not. Zero chance. Zero chance. Yeah. There is a chance. Obviously, but right now, no. Realistic, just... Saccharine exit again? Yeah. Continue to get belted by those thunder. By the thunder only. She's owning them. All right, next. Phoenix Suns. Sealing. Seventh seed last year. How did they build on that? What's the best case scenario? I'm at eighth seed last year. No. There were eighth seed last year? Yeah, eighth seed still. Yep, that's your ceiling. As you do the same thing. You hope to achieve the same high as you found last year. You may know realistic roster improvements at all. You decided to bring in miles bridges. Yeah, and... That roster... Destruction. Stinks and also you lost some mark on them too. Eight seed is like the absolute seed.

25:39And a lot of sunset spend will be happy as fuck with that too. Yeah, floor. They're gonna try really hard. So actually, everybody tries hard now with a lot of yards. Lowkey, the floor is like 12. It could fall out. Yeah. I'll say 13. I don't know. I think their team like stay would be 30. But whatever. Eight. Eight. Yeah. Realistic. Realistic. Realistic. Realistic. We speak in there probably like a nine seed. Bottom of the plan. Yeah, like bottom of the plan. Actually, they might not make it. I say realistic. He's probably a little... Do you think no one's gonna make it? No. Who's gonna make it? And what the fuck? Say, yeah, you suck. I'm like, we suck. I'm suck. I'm a very clear... I have a very clear tier of what I think is going to make the playing. The season is starting to come into focus for me. And I think I have my teams that have things that are going to come into my team. He just wants to get rid of the players. Yeah, exactly. I've said it before. Yeah. But like, we're not in the situation. Realistic. One of the worst teams in the play in 9 or 10, whatever it falls, is the one game difference.

26:42I just know the maps are going to be in it. That's it. Never been more confident than anything ever. But in your two Black maps, 20 year olds were Black. Hell, he had to the moon. Alright, next one. Golden State Warriors. Can they be a top 16, ceiling? If you think Bully was here already, maybe I could convince myself. He's not combusted January. The ceiling's like 7 or 8. They disgust me. Me. Alright, ceiling, 7, floor 9, realistic, 8. We just know what they're going to be. Same shit, bro. Last year. For last year, 10. Yeah, that's the floor. Alright, 10 is the floor still 10. How many games of career play last year? Like 40? Not a lot. I think floors should be, might be like 12, bro. They might get the number one overall pick. Honestly. I think we're going to get some more roll pick right next year. Okay, floor, new lottery odds, you get the number one overall pick. Yeah, number one overall pick, floor. We do believe that the lottery odds are rigged.

27:43That's not a bad thing to give, carried the number one pick on his last one. Like, I think that's okay. Yeah, school. I mean, he can't do much with it because he's young. Yeah. But who knows? Realistic. What are you going to? Probably Nancy. Yeah, we can go on. Nancy, bye. Yeah. You think we're better than the maps? Realistically. 10. Also, yeah, I think the maps are like, they're 10. That's it. They have way more depth than these guys. So I'll tell you what, Dom is on the, on the, um, maft, wait. Yeah, he's on the maps. He's on the maps. Low key realistic, I think he's just still 10. I think it'll be the same as last year. 10. Why? This TV is just who they are. Well, actually, is it helpful to Jimmy Boller comes back at the end instead of being there at the beginning? Come back at the end. Oh, fuck. Yeah, they're going to need Jimmy badly. Get the number one overall pick. Okay. All right. Next. Dan Verne-Nuggets. Championship roster deteriorating year by year.

28:44No more pain Watson. What's the ceiling? The ceiling is three seed at the best case scenario. Three seed and playoff waxing. And in the days of them being the best playoff teams are far behind us. We haven't seen Yogeek's go band to band with one of the best teams in the NBA in several years. But it's just been two years. Yeah. The last time was three years ago. The last time he had his fighting chance. Yeah. Two years, that's a couple. But it's been three since he did it. Three is few. More four more is like several. It's very important. Are several of you synonymous? I mean, you have relatively like they mean relatively the same thing, but this kind of... Not this context. Okay. I'm glad you clarified. Three seed specifically and playoff waxing. They're not going to be a team that can beat the top two guys. This is not happening. What's the floor? A six seed and playoff waxing. You will get destroyed by the spurs or the thunder. You pick what's around it is for a second.

29:45You're thoroughly done with them, man. I mean, they're six seed. Are they beating the lakers in the first round? Maybe just to get the early wax in the first round. I don't care who they beat the first round. They beat the rockets? Maybe. No. That playoff waxing can be by anybody's hand. But they will get destroyed in the playoffs. Five, four. Which one? Four one. Four one? Yeah. Oh, if they play the top two teams, yeah. Realistic. I'm thinking four seed. Fifth seed and playoff waxing. Okay. Waxing will be in play-board regardless. Yeah. Somebody's getting waxed. Somebody's going to put on t-shirt. And it's probably to Mulberry industry. So the waxing to you being a first round exit or just being waxed in the second round? You're going to win your playoffs series. You lose feeling terrible. Whatever round it is, you get thoughts. I don't know where it goes. Which round? You're getting destroyed. Four one. Okay. You're telling me dealer's choice. Get waxed. The camera waxed. All right. Next. You touch ass.

30:46Might be a decent range of outcomes here. All right. If Kester was here, I would have gotten cute, maybe said six seed. Or top six seed. Yeah. Wherever you want to put it on. But no Kester, I'm not quite as optimistic about that. I don't know how the whole center rotation is going to really work out like fully because now you don't even have a solid backup work in system backup. I'm going to say your ceiling is like 8-7 seed. I'm going to say 8-7 because the defense is going to be in flux to me. And I don't know. It's going to be hard to like manage minutes between Ace Bailey, Darren Peterson, Jairn Jackson, Jr. It's a lot going on. I think it's going to be a minute to figure it out. Fair range. Last year, they were the 15th seed. Now they won't tank quite as egregiously. They jump in it. Floor. 13th? And they know the methods. They're going to be mid, bro. You're right. They're really good at tanking. They do know the methods. They know the method. They know the method. The bottom four is the teams that are in the relegation zone. Bottom three. So on three. They need to conference. Okay. I thought it was four teams total in the league.

31:47I don't remember. I got to reread the rules. I think it's two. I think it's the bottom four teams in the league are in relegation zone. So they won't be there. So floor. 13th seed. They want to allow themselves to be one of the two worst in the conference. It'll be impossible to do that. Yeah. They're definitely good enough to be a smooth 11 or 12. Realistic. I know it's the bottom three teams in the league. Okay. So it's not four. We're going to floor 13th seed. Realistic. Smooth. 12 or 11 I think. There's a lot of good teams out there. Say 11th seed. I think I'll pick the maps and Grizzlies to stock over them more. Actually, maybe not Grizzlies. That's doing too much. Yeah. Maps for sure, I would. They do have two all stars. And Kionte George is ascending. Dan Peterson, top pick. Maybe 11 seed is fair. You can rock me with them. They can get to nine. They really can't. They can be better in the maps. They can be better in the warriors. They can be better than the Grizzlies, the suns. I think realistic. I think realistic. Dude, there's so many like good teams in the west. I think they're in the west. And all those teams are getable. That's fine. All those teams are just be better than Loki. The ceiling might be seven.

32:47Yeah. Like they can be better than all those teams that won't be that shocked. Okay, I wouldn't either. This is a ceiling play. Again, this is the prediction. Sealing. That's super pop. Those teams suck at it said. There's no way they can get to set. I think. Okay. Okay. Come on. This is not a fucking certain about everything. We'll realistic 11. You can rock with that. Probably. Yeah, if they are still a year away from contending in a, in a playing context, it just takes a little bit more time. You need one more role player piece. Mind you, I think we've said. Dude, there's 13 teams we're talking about. We put them on the top of the left. What's the kind of? That's the state of it. It's good. It's six, it's six really good teams and like six more there. Just whatever, but they're also close to the same. What kind of whatever that it looks like in your conference. Yeah. All those teams are food. Honestly, we just named. Thanks. Sacramento Kings. 18. 15 cross the board, man.

33:47All three no more words. Yep. You will be the 15 seed. Yep. So when we do our predictions in two weeks, I've not seen but I get cute from a 14. Bro, I'm straight. Are you feeling cute? Oh, you do it. Really? It's not going to be a promise. You're it. I promise. I promise. No, I promise. I can tell you're feeling cute and you're going to do it. I think they're going to trade some. He's saying I promise. You can't see his hand. This thing is across. I'm not going to lie to you. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The spurs. Well, floor. I mean, ceiling is clearly when the championship. Yep. Of course. And the webby air, the ceiling, the webby air begins and you want to resound the championship with a little pushback. Like ceiling is we did just dominate the league in the second year of contention and nobody can fuck with us. Yeah. What's the floor look like? Two seed. Two seed. What do I have in the playoffs? Two seed. Lewis is the thunder. They can fall to the three seed. I think that they can get that they can get.

34:48I think they're going to be farming wins, bro. These two teams are head and shoulders. I think there's like, again, firing injury, which is going to say for anybody, there's to me if they're healthy, ish, literally no chance to fall at the top two. Yeah. I think there's two teams that will win 60 games and two, then 13 other teams that have no chance of winning 60. You're going into year three, Stefan Castle, who knows how good Dylan Harbor is going to be in year two. Darren Fox is going to be healthy again. When B just keeps on getting better and better, you got your good old vets and Harrison Barnes and Tobias Harris is there now too. They're a better team than us here. They got better, like to me pretty clearly. And we don't feel that much better about any of these other motherfuckers around them. They're floors two. Floors two. Two seed. I do. I think like those two are in stone. They're head and shoulders better than everyone else. Except for O.K.C obviously. I can see the three seed. I can see anybody falling to three. I don't think that it's going to just be. I think you can in theory. But what team do you think the past? Are we not doing theory? No, I mean, it's easy to say that. But like if you actually thought like which team could actually pass them, I don't think you actually feel the chance of playing the past.

35:49I do think that there's a chance that the Lakers can get to the two seed. That one of these two teams dropping that the Lakers have a very successful regular season and get up there to one of the top seeds. I think they're the only one that I feel like over or I feel the strongest about them. And then the only other team that I feel potentially could do that just because of the range of variance that they have is Minnesota. But I don't I wouldn't bank on it in any sense. But I think that their range of outcomes, if everything just goes perfectly, I think those two teams could potentially get up there. I think those teams are way too flawed for me to get there. Yeah, like there's a lot of ways something happened. So like that could happen as if like a meteor strike specifically San Antonio. That is true. There's a bioweapon attack on San Antonio. We're talking about theory. See, and I just I just don't think that we need bio warfare for first of all to three. I'm certain we do. And that's what we did.

36:50That's what we never. I don't think it's a world a world ending event if they get to three. I do think we need nuclear follow-up to happen. So realistic. Do you think they make the finals? The bombs drop. Yeah, really. I think the key price of the button. No realistic. Do they win the finals at realistic realistic back to conference finals. Robo ball that we'll see who wins. Seven game series for Western conference finals realistic. I don't know what to call it. Yeah, I think they're belt whoever is in the finals for these. I think they won the finals realistic. But I just I'm not sure you're going to learn from the mistakes. That's crazy. I do it again. Well, he's going to say it through the lake. Me. I learned over. No, no, no. They're expecting too high form the medium outcome. I'd say. But yeah, I think realistic is Western conference finals game seven. We'll see who wins this time. Yeah. Do you have any confidence in who to call? No, right now. I know.

37:50I'll see if you better about the thunder. Me too, but it's like so so little margin that I'm like, I don't know. Like, I'm going to pick them, I guess, but it doesn't really mean much to me. It just like, I have to see one of these two guards and a day Mitchell or case on wild. It's maybe it's going to be a day Mitchell, like take a serious, serious leap as a shooter. Which ages are there, I guess, but more so it's like casing because he's going to eat up a lot of those. I don't really care about anybody making a leap in thunder. I know who they are. To me, it's just like maybe this person take a big step. Yeah. And I don't know how to account for that. You can't account for your three stuff on or your two harperies. The harper reason is the only thing that I'm kind of caught up on because I do think that he's going to be better. And I think that he's obviously going to be an improved player, but also the shooting does have to come around. And you know, like there are a number of things to his game that the way that we're talking about, Dylan Harper and the the highest that he's going to reach, he still does have to prove that he can do those things in year two.

38:50That's the only reason why I think I'm holding off on like all the spurs number one seed they're going to walk that I need to see that a little bit. It's just tough when it's a two game gap last year where my that's around around the air like I could go either way. So easily that I truly have no confidence either way. Yeah. Okay. He's the last team. Portland Trailblazers. Man, I don't have any stock in this team. They can be so they could be a playing team. Yeah, I think the The floor question to me is the ceiling with this goofy-esque guard group here with jaw, Dame Scoot, Drew, Shade and like all these motherfuckers playing the same spots. I don't really have any faith in the ceiling that matters. So to me, the ceiling is what they were last year seven seed. Yeah, okay. Fair. That's perfectly right. Seven seed floor, playing realistic. Well, floor, I think the floor, we need a lot of teams that can be the plan. They could fall out. I don't think they can. I think they can bottom out. I think their defense will be too good. I think clinging coming into what year three as well or four. I think we're going to see another not seismic leap or whatever, but I think as he should be

39:53head until like one of the five best room protectors in the game. But what if he's no castler? What if what if what if Dame coming off this Achilles is looking rough? What if Jaa just isn't who like he just can't reach that level. And both of them are quite likely potential again. But he's just playing well, but he's also old like there's a lot of things that can fall out from the guard position. You're already missing shading sharp. If two money can mark Mrs. Any time the perimeter defense is fucked. That's a lot of burden on it. It can get bad. I think 14 is kind of in the cards. 14 deep. Nah, I think they're just two. I'll just say the floor is miss the table as a team. I'll just raise that way. Floor is miss the playing and you're going to be competitive. You can just you can just miss it by a gamer too. It's super possible. I do have to push back on that. Two stable of a team is actually the worst thing that you can say about this team. Nah, what stable meaning like they're not the kings. That's what it means to me in the worst. I don't think that's far from me the kings. You're like, I don't know what they are.

40:54But like if they have a year from hell, I don't think that's massively shocking. Mind you. Coach got arrested by the fans last year. We're talking about stability. Last year was so crazy. How was that like? We'll talk about stability. We're talking about stability. There's a lot of things on their on their team that can go wrong. So let's just say Floor missed the playing. What's realistic? Probably the, probably the 9C. I think they fall down a little bit. I think there could be some other teams that jump up ahead. All right, realistic. Make the play. There we go. Yeah. There's going to be like 10 teams in the play. I know. No, I know, bro. It's all going to be like separated by like two or three games each and every fucking seed. We can. It's really not like red ass. It's really not great. Yeah. That's the ceiling of Floor for every team in this conference. Hi, I'm Angie Hicks, co founder of Angie. One thing I've learned is that you buy a house, but you make it a home. For decades, Angie's helped millions of homeowners hire skilled pros for the projects that matter. Angie, the one you trust, define the ones you trust, find a pro for your project at Angie.com.

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