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I'm Sean Fennese. I'm Amanda Dauvin. This is the big picture conversation show about baseball. CR is here and so is Mallory Rubin, which must mean we are drafting today. The major league baseball playoffs have just begun and there is no more grueling sports watching experience when your team is grinding through the agony of the baseball postseason. Most of us won't have to worry about that this year. Nevertheless, to celebrate, we are drafting our favorite baseball movies and talking about our favorite sport on the silver screen at least for me right after this. This episode is presented by State Farm. You know the feeling, long day, good meal, you finally sit down and now you're just staring at your screen. Slasher, romcom, period drama, psychological thriller, but some decisions don't have to be that hard. State Farm is here to help.
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Favorite sport to play? I'd like to say tennis parentheses aspirational. Yeah. To watch. Yeah, probably baseball and movies for sure baseball. Interesting, Mel. Baseball across the board. Adam and I have been playing catch. Your husband, Adam. My husband, right, sorry. He's a character on that, I guess. My husband, Adam and I have, we know we got new gloves when I was training for the Kim Yards this summer and just have kept just tossing the ball around. Got some soft indoor friendly balls so we don't have to leave our home. It's been lovely. It's been great. You're going to catch in your home. We play inside while we watch sports. It's honestly really wonderful. You guys are like two 13-year-old boy roommates going up, you know, just. Yeah, yeah. For companions, definitely. And yeah, I'd like to get back out on the diamond, maybe hit the bat and cage at some point. So baseball's fun to play. I like to play football too. I like to swim. Certainly baseball is my favorite sport to watch,
though I enjoy football as well. And baseball movies, it's nothing's even close. Yeah, nothing's close. What about you? Baseball is my favorite sport, though I think watching baseball versus watching football is pretty neck and neck. I still love watching professional football as much as anything. Favorite sport to play is still probably basketball, you know, about like playing basketball too. 10 years ago, Chris and I and your husband and our friend John went on a trip to Texas and we spent an afternoon at the batting cages. That was actually a lot of that. I played guitar hero. Not this isn't I'm not trying to take away your moment here, but I still have a photo of you. I did. I did. I'm guitar hero as five seven-year-olds are like, oh my god. That did happen. That did happen. The guitar hero and our cage batting. But there was a batting cage. The arcade and we went to the batting cage and I think all four of us played baseball growing up. But we got in the cage and you know, whatever we hit them all. We didn't hit the ball. The issue was really more like how we felt afterwards. Yeah. Because of all the muscles that were required to be used while swinging a bat, which if you
don't keep up with it and I haven't played baseball since I was 19, is brutally painful. So playing is still probably basketball movies. I guess it's probably baseball, although I will say, I thought this was an amazing idea when I came up with it. And then now I'm like, there's fewer than 75 baseball movies. I mean, there's really not a lot of baseball movies, especially not a lot of truly great ones. You've got this like up or wrong of seven to ten films that are all time classics. And then after that, it's a lot of personal favorites. I wonder why that is. Any theories? I was curious because like, you know, obviously the 90s is this high watermark for the subgenre of baseball movie and it ties in, I guess, nicely, ish with Sozin McGuire and the Bible of the game and the Atlanta Braves. Yeah. Atlanta Braves stuff. Sort of a low point. Yeah. Listen, listen, I've renounced them. Uh-huh. But they moved to Cobb County. You in both of them. I don't fuck with Cobb County. But I was there in the 90s. So I was there literally at Fulton
County Stadium in the 90s. If I could have any team deleted from the historical record, it would be those teams. They went to the World Series like nine times, the only one once. I know. In 1995. Totally uncool and boring. A bunch of dorky white guy pictures. They sucked. Fuck them. Okay. That's how I feel. I feel that way to this day and they absolutely dominated my team this year. But I wonder whether or not we hold baseball movies in a certain regard because we came of age during the total, the sort of glory days. Yeah. Of baseball. Yeah. Yeah. That was, I mean, the 90s were the second golden age, right? Yeah. I mean, I think the one of the joys, if you're a baseball fan, but even if you aren't, is the baseball movies give you something to love? If you're a baseball fan, if there's something about baseball, the anguish, the baseball is like uniquely equipped to deliver into your life because if you've invested in the team 162 games a year, spray trading, maybe the playoffs and they let you down. It is a unique type of pain, very reminiscent of an actual relationship in your real life. But if they bring you joy, there's just nothing like it. There's just nothing like it. And the excuse that a baseball team gives you
every day and not only to engage with that team in the community, but the other people in your life who love it, like texting my dad, I live in LA, he lives in Baltimore. We both are watching the goes. We text about it every day. It's the best. Yeah. So the fact that baseball movies can capture those dolders, that's me and Jack. I mean, yeah. Just always waiting to get for Jack. Father and son chatting about Carson bench. I got some Pete Alonzo, of course, fondance from Jack this season. Not as much as I would have liked to at the end of the season, when he became the first player ever to lead both the American League and the National League in RBI. Any comments? RBI, that RKX stat for meatheads. Also led the American League in home runs this year. Just throwing that out there. How many wins did you guys have? We in the way. I want to go back to a fruitless 162 game season mirrors the relationships in your life. It's just piece of rally size and lows. You know, sure. You go through all of it. You go. Okay. It feels like something authentically lived about baseball fandom. That's just I think distinct. And like the movies can be so deeply religious and poetic and literary and lyrical
and they can also be hysterical. And so many of the characters in a baseball movie are going through some like reaching some extraordinary peak of achievement. And so many of them are just like, I gotta like put my jockstrap on for the fucking six month in a row. It's me now doing the watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great podcast on this network. Your team is going to the playoffs this year. They are. We're releasing this on Wednesday. So there will be no peacocking for me about this. Who knows what could happen Tuesday night? Any thought. I mean, obviously you had a tricky end of the season, but you did get in. Yeah. The Phillies almost a near historic collapse. Yeah. In September instead of October this year. Yes. And a nucleus of guys who have perhaps excuse me. I haven't been sitting living through it. You have a collection of 34 year old men. Yeah. Who were this is kind of one last hurrah. I don't even know. They all have 10 year contracts. I mean, so like yeah, I expect to this is just my theory. And of course, I'm not a Phillies fan. But I expected a dramatic fall off or the two remaining to Schwurber and Harper. Yeah.
Traitor is already there. They're going to go join. I think I think I would imagine if we're doing baseball, like I would imagine Don Mattingley is is is going to be leaving the club at the end of the season and that Alex Kora will come in and hopefully maybe we'll trade one of our our big bads to to get some some depth, some change to team up a little bit. The the Phillies season, though, I think you could reasonably say if they go all the way, would be it has kind of the makings of the story book baseball Hollywood movie, you know, like a bunch of guys you've spent a lot of time with over the years. You've kind of given up on them. And yet there might still be a little magic in there because the baseball playoffs are just about getting hot. If you get hot for six weeks, you can change a franchise's entire relationship to the team and history. And the movies are I think the best movies are really good at that. And a lot of the movies are about like kind of signing up for a season with the team, which I really enjoy. Baseball movies are about a hundred years old. Speedy, the silent comedy from 1928 features a hardcore Yankees fan as the protagonist.
And they we don't have very many of them now. And yet next year, we have not won but two studio comedies about baseball. It's time. Baseballs back. Do you think so? Straight. Yeah. There you go. Give us some sort of baseball if we get watched the actual games. I mean, it feels like there's a little bit of a return, right? That there are a lot of good young players and people have been hyped a lot. Couple years ago. I mean, things right. Games are shorter. More people are watching. I mean, maybe not born out by statistics, but they they can spin it, you know, to say that's true. I don't know. Are you watching a baseball? Is baseball back? I don't know. I mean, never went away from me. We never went away for you. I did grow up in a home where the baseball game would be on every night. That was sort of we weren't a huge TV household, but that that was allowed. And it was sort of like the the background noise, of course. And so I am used to baseball as kind of like a like a companion type entertainment and the way that I think a lot of people use like
cable news now. And we haven't had it on that different effect. Yeah, different effect for sure. Yeah, you go to Keeling Collins. You are the MSNBC mom in my life. There's my gals. The MS now supreme's alone. I don't really watch her. I watch. I did somebody's show for the brun. Who did I do? I was like, this is big for me. Well, you can't. Great. And now you can't remember. It was KC. Hi, it was a Katie. Okay. No, it was. You would remember. She. She did it with. She's like, I think she was ice score is that way. Okay. Yeah. No, listen, a quaker in the mix. We haven't had it on that much this year. I don't know. And you know what's interesting is that finally direct TV and sports spectrum, all of the local news, all of Garx in Southern California, straight and things out. So I could just pay directly for a Dodgers subscription. Yeah. Rather than paying three times to not be able to watch the Dodgers.
And then we didn't even watch that. So it's one of my favorite moments in big pick history. I'm going off the dome here, but I want to say it was the monkey man pod. Because that's on right. We're in the middle of that podcast. And I happened to have a very, very, like significant memory of this because I was stuck in a one hour seven minute attempt to leave Angel Stadium Park. He was out of baseball game. Wow. You just started talking about the mets and then you started railing against. I mean, we were like, we had a M.O.B league pass. Yeah. Plus we paid for YouTube TV. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. There was nothing that I could do to pay. And they did fix that. And then we didn't turn it on. The good news is the finances of the Dodgers are great. Everything's going to be perfectly fine. So they figured out that issue. I think that that color is a little bit of the baseball season. If not, I'll be curious to see if that infects any of the relationship to the two movies that are coming out next year. But like the Dodgers thing, I think, has put a little bit of a poll over the sport over the last few years. And this feels like we've reached maximum Dodgers frustration where it's like very
evident that there's some criminal enterprise underneath the experience. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not officially inditing the man. I have no legal power. It's just one man's opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know? Do you think that money ball killed baseball movies? You mean money ball? Oh, the movie or the philosophy? The movie. Well, first of all, like it tries its hardest in that film to create a romance out of statistical analysis in advance. Sure. I can not be romantic about baseball. But like for lack of a better phrase, it's almost like too good. And then like after that, there's like this kind of like retrenchment of like, all right. So like what would a baseball movie in a world where people know what warp and war are? What do you think? It's really interesting. I hadn't thought about that. I think there's probably something to that. I think there's also just something to the state of the world and the cynical headspace that we all share. We're like, I don't know, a lot of baseball movies and I say this with like love and from a position of gratitude for this,
but they're incredibly corny and incredibly saccharine and they require you to give yourself over to that feeling, right? They're often about some sort of connection to yourself, to your community, to your family, to of somebody across time, right? To your sense of capacity and achievement. And like I don't know, there have been good baseball movies since moneyball. Like everybody wants some was delightful, but that's not necessarily the most widely seen baseball movie. No, it norm is an intended to be, right? But the way that people would point to the movies from the late 80s and early 90s in particular and say those were some of the defining films to your point from earlier Chris, like of our childhood or of that moment in time, that doesn't feel true. Yeah, there are two post moneyball and baseball movies that I hold very dearly. Neither about the fable, fairytale Cleveland team that goes to the world series. They're not even really about the majors. They're neither, but not about the majors. And if I'm
guessing the two correctly, one is about, one is like a game, but it's really about everything that happens in and around the world of the game. That's EFIS. And then everybody wants some is about dudes rocking, you know, adjacent to a baseball team. Did the way that we, I was going to say we like I watch a lot of sports, but the way that watching sports change, change the way that we relate to any of these movies. I mean, it does feel like there's so much extracurricular sports watching. I'm thinking about fantasy leagues and all of the other content that that's so much of being a fan is outside of the game. And most of the movies before moneyball are like about there is a climactic game and a professional in the sports league. I think it's an insightful question. I'm not sure that it infects the enjoyment of baseball movies so much as just the market forces of them not being appealing to audiences. The reason why it felt like the 90s was this boom time for me specifically is because there's a period between
1992 and 1996 where they're making a ton of baseball movies for kids. And those movies, I saw every single one of them in movie theaters and they're all quite unusual. And at the time, at the time, at least they were very charming. And that was that generation of baseball fans really fell in love with the stars of the sport and thus fell in love with the sport and thus fell in love with all the surrounding material around it. Moneyball, the book and what it did to the sport itself may also have infected downstream our ability to enjoy and even just narrativeize the sport on screen. Plus, it obviously has fallen pretty clearly into third or maybe even fourth place in terms of big American sports. Yeah. And there's like a kind of counterintuitive aspect to that. We're on the one hand, the fact that maybe baseball is a little bit less central in the public consciousness and to the shared experience makes it for the studios or filmmakers less like, oh, this is a sure thing. This is going to be a winner to make a movie about baseball just because of the question of like, despite my prior baseball's back statement, do people care about baseball? Are they going to get excited?
But I think the flip side of that too is like, I knew it earlier, there haven't been that many baseball movies, but 70 some is that's that's not nothing. Whereas like, now obviously F1 is just top gun and cars, but that's tapping into a new boom of American fandom, like a fledgling group of people who are saying, I'm interested in this for the first time. I watch Drive to Survive. I want to, oh, I've been thinking about his F1 for me. Maybe I'll check out this movie, you know, wrestling movies, boxing movies. Like, they're just like a, we're not just making baseball basketball football, but they sell. There's a huge component to this too, which is that it's really hard to look like you're credibly playing baseball at a high level. Like, just to look like your old player. Yeah, and there have been a few stars who have gone back to the well a few times because they are so credible. We, you know, I know you sell prime time. I don't know if you sell prime time. This is not even a spoiler, but there is a scene in which Robert Pattinson has a catch of Rose baseball. I was incredibly sure. But like, this is revisionist history on your part.
Well, relatively speaking, given his producer, Scott, he's on doing that scene is faking being bad at throwing. I asked that question. I don't know. Presumably. Yes. My answer was yes. What? It was pointed out to me, of course. And this may come up in terms of what you think qualifies as a baseball movie, but Robert Pattinson plays baseball in Twilight. Yeah, of course. The Twilight baseball. Okay. So point of order. You've opened up Pandora. Yes. Well, you, there's, we should talk about the categories for this script, which are the usual drama comedy at Sean added kids movie and wild card. Yeah. Based on a true story and high concept, for either high concept or wild card. Yeah. If you're taking high concept to mean this is a high concept picked by me. Oh, or interesting. No, wild card should be a wild card. Wild card should be baseball scene and not baseball movie. This was going to be my pitch. Okay. So baseball parentheses. All look. Wild card could be anything. Wild card can be anything in the world of baseball related to movies. Right.
So it could just be another baseball movie or it could be a documentary, but you could also do this. Exactly. I was thinking of a very broad definition for wild card. Okay. I'm down with your hike. I was thinking of it a high concept, meaning high concept on the page, the premise of the movie. Yes. But if you can make the argument that this pick is, you prefer just all going wild card for dissent for the sake of not chaos, right? I don't really care as long as wild card can be whatever baseball movie I want it to be or whatever baseball scene I want it to be. Yeah. Then that's fine. Then you then you, you know, we'll see. I'll find my high concept because there's a limited quantity of films. The balance between high concept and kids movie makes it very competitive. Those two categories, there will be a dirt. Whereas drama and comedy, there's a lot of picks. You may not love all the picks that you get, but there are a lot of options. Those other categories, a smaller number makes it more intense as we go through it. That's going to be really interesting in the first and second round because, you know, draft strategy versus like this is clearly the best movie. Like are we going to take... Well, there are some really
good ones. I got such a big picture story. There are a couple real disease at the top, but like, there are a couple movies that would definitely be picked as drama or comedy. It's like those categories are so deep. Does it make sense to do that in the first round? But if you can get your favorite Facebook movie, you know, the fun of the game. Do you want to have the movie you love or do you want to have the best overall board? Any other thoughts before we pick our draft order? I'm curious if you guys think that there's like a clear number one or even a clear top four. No, I think there's a lot of personal variance. And then there's a free for all. I generally agree with that. I think there's a malachia. I had one more question. Do you guys have a story that's been that's happened in the world of baseball or even like you can even think of that's happened since money ball that you kind of wish there was a movie about? Oh my god, what a great question Chris. Malz is Freddie Freeman's road trip with his cat. That's right with the the... Yeah. What about Freddie Freeman? When you talk, I listen. I also see the known by you right now. What about Freddie Freeman's trip to Istanbul to get his teeth fixed?
I was going to say that the veneers can really come into play. The cat has like little like a manicure pedicure on the. Well, it's just that we're inside of best. Let people have bad veneers. No, yeah. People can do it. They won't want their teeth or anything. She did. Yeah, she did. I think there's just a few L.A. athletes. She's got very hard and infinite. There are many other things going on. Are you? I'm never going to do it. I can't do it. I'm nervous. Yeah. And now I'm going to do it. Now, Sion, I have matching chip teeth. I think you're fine. You should do it. You should do it. If you're actually... I'll tell you what, I'll make it go with you. I'll make it go with you. I said that. If you do it, I'll never acknowledge that. I know you said that. I'm not going to do it. I can't do it. But it's just like of all of the problems. Freddie Freeman getting his teeth fixed. I don't really care. Look, the Dodgers have it all. Yeah. And to that point, Otani would be a Hollywood star. He's a great, he's a great movie. It would also be an interesting heart of darkness underbelly story. That's not saying there's some other thing. Yeah. I'm going to do the really. What is that? That's Otani. That's the story. Can you imagine if Sidney Lament was still with us and he made a movie called The Translator?
And it was about him. Yeah. That was awesome. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of like classic stories like we have not had a dramatized McGuire-Sosa movie. And that's a really rich story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Their friendship, the chase, and then all the aftermath, and the kind of really the fall of that era of baseball in a lot of way. Yeah. Yeah. It could be a really good film. Yeah. A star writer I think would be would be really good. I mean, God, there's some gambling stuff to do. Certainly. You could do something in a few years when Trout finally wins a world series with the Phillies after returning home. Oh yeah. I'm really vague. A career, the best player of his generation who just couldn't win with the Angels finally go, so I'm you could do that. My pitch obviously will be, you'll still be fiddling with your fucking formula. Peter Lanzon. I think we're going to need some success in Baltimore before making a movie about that. You would make a movie about a guy having like an okay season for a movie. Okay. Season. Peter Lanzon, 43 home runs up. Dare you. I would do. Did you guys ever see the video of the kid from LSU who is a pitcher and like lied to his coach that he used to be a
a, used to hit back in high school. So his coach let him pinch hit and he hit a home run and like his post game conference was like, I just lied coach. I just wanted to hit nooks. You know, I didn't see that. But it's like one of those things where it's like that would be a good movie, but in the age of like reals, it's kind of hard to like squeeze any more juice out of that. Yeah. I mean, but that is, you find a lot of baseball movies have those kinds of premises to where they're not about the big stars. But this is like a wow story, which is why based on true stories and one of our categories here today. Okay. This will be interesting. Let's, let's do a draft order. Jack, what do we got? Just want to say a mile. You're talking a lot of shit for a team that treated their franchise cornerstone of their division rival and missed the playoffs. Here we go. A draft order. Adley, Roger, and franchise cornerstone. Was that was he not the Prince who was promised? Were you two? Are you serious? No, you're being delusional. This is revisionist history. Come on. Maybe. How? God damn it. Selecting first is Mallory Ruben. No, I don't know. I don't know. It's a great draft to select first. I got to be honest. I mean, I'm having you. I just take my favorite movie, but it's a long wait for the second. Selecting second is a
man to Dobbins. Okay. Let's take it. And third is Sean Finnecy, fourth Chris Ryan. I'll turn. I'll have to wait for the turn. I dreamt on the turn last night, actually. You dreamt. I did. Did you literally dream about it? No, I don't dream about this show. I do dream, but I don't remember my dreams. Then how do you know that you dream? Because I've had dreams sometimes. Okay. Like I've had I've remembered, you know, somewhere between the sex hand and a hundred dreams in my life. Okay. That's it. I don't know. Are they are they are the dreams that you remember? Do they repeat? Are they? I have a couple. Okay. I haven't had an anxiety dream in a while. Wow. Congratulations. Yeah. That's been nice. My life is amazing. I had that. She's that kind of vulnerability. That really man. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I don't dream. You dream all the time. I used to remember my dreams more often, but I do dream.
The thing is I wake up a lot throughout the night. So I have more opportunities to remember a dream. You ever lose a dream? Yeah. That's a powerful experience. That's a very. That can be very. Usually have a five a.m. to seven a.m. dream. Yeah. That's pretty vivid. That's when I remember my dream. I want to share how wet are your dreams? This is sodden. Okay. Okay. Number one overall. They should be allowed to sit next to each other. Yeah. No, thanks for being here. Guys, thanks for having me. I love this podcast. I love all of you. I love baseball and I love film. I also love Kevin Koster. Can you rank those orders? That those in order with Koster, which we all know what you're making is going to be. Yeah. I mean, this is. Yeah. This is no surprise to anyone. I'm taking Boulder. I'm a question category. Boulder is not only my favorite baseball movie and my favorite sports movie. It's one of my three favorite movies, like Ever. I just love Boulder. It's a formative movie in my life. When I saw it for the first time, junior year of high school, I watched it five days in a row. And I just love it. It is everything I want in a baseball movie. It's obviously a great romance. Yeah. I mean, Annie and all timer, absolute all timer.
Nucle Luce, what a character and crash Davis historic and, you know, crash, ironing in his boxers. Foundational text. It really is. It's just boho crash. You do make speeches. It's just a wonderful movie. It has some of the most quotable lines. Lollie Gaggen, Candle Sticks, Rochelle Tune, former member of the Baltimore O'Rail's farm system. I mean, come on. What do you want from me? But I think this is a movie where, you know, Annie's opening monologue about the stitches on a baseball and the beads on a rosary. You know right away that you're going to get a really special experience that is an examination of the struggle and the euphoria that baseball uniquely provides. And it's just absolutely magic. It's incredibly funny. You know, you couldn't hit water if you fell out of a fucking boat. Like, I've watched this movie 500 times that I cackle like a lunatic every time crash says that to Nuc. The Garters. What is it? What is this wrong lyrics for the song? Is she made by Lollie? Yeah. Women get. It's just so great. You know, sometimes you win,
sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains the baseball cliche machine, all of it. But like when crash, I mean, obviously like I believe in the cock, the pussy, that whole speech is iconic. But when crash says to Annie, I was just going to say that's the peak of Kevin Cosmine. It's like that scene. That's it in his boxers. Yeah. Well, he's, you know, kind of holds altitude for like a few years and then it's over. It's just in a really is an incredible crash performance. It's amazing. The, I think the moment, one of my favorites always though, until obviously, you know, 60-minute man and fucking in the bathtub and in the bathrooms and knocking the mill over the kitchen counter. The cereal like all of it. It's just incredible. If you think you're winning because you're getting laid or because you're not getting laid, then you are and you should know that like has always dropped to me. Yeah. I do as a fan. Superstition. Yeah. Like I think there is something that this movie understands about what it is like to try to play baseball crash a career minor leader who has to train this hot shot who
doesn't appreciate the thing that he has. But also to sit there in the stands every day, to give yourself over to this team and this experience. It's just really unmatched and unrivaled. I love it. I guess I'm going to take it in comedy even though comedy is such a loaded category. I had to draft comedy in the first time I could take it in drama. I think there's a case for it and almost every category here except for high concept. Kids movie. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not a true story of Ron Shelton's experience. There's a lot of real minor league baseball and it's a real minor league baseball. I was going to ask if based on a true story felt like too much of a stretch or if it felt eligible. I think it's a stretch and we would the board would need to consult on it. But it speaks to I think the kind of like there's something about the experience. Yeah, certainly that is undeniable in terms of what informs it. We're dealing with a lot. Cursed gloves, etc. Can I take it in that category? Based on a true story. I know it's based on a stretch. I think it's based on a personal experience. Yeah, that's not really the same thing.
I'm going to take it in. I'll take it in comedy. That feels like the the truest place for it to be. Even though it's a loaded category. Okay. What a great movie. You guys like Bull Durham? I do like Bull Durham. Yeah, I deleted it from the top of my comedy category. So there you have everyone have taken it with the first pick. No, I'm going to have to take my first pick. I assume I know it's in drama, which is of course, money ball. Okay. One of my favorite movies of this this century as we did. What number was it for 25 or 25? Yeah, that's kind of low, but that's okay. It was accurate. It is a movie about the like intellectualization and the, you know, numberization and the corporatization of sports that then turns it back into as Mal has already quoted like the most romantic movie about baseball and sports made in our lifetimes. Incredible bad
red pit performance. Incredible score that the last time the Phillies did something good in the playoffs. It was the meat. You remember the Bryce Harper homerun that then immediately got set to the the the Hatton Chad Hatton. What's Chris Pratt's character? The music when it cuts out. Yeah. Great, great, me. I quote this all of the time and you know, it's very moving and also a girl dad movie for the girl dad's among us. Then a Miller come back to feature films. Yeah, I would, you know, Fox Hedger didn't go as we all had hoped, but nevertheless, I would like to see him make another movie. So you're putting this in drama out of respect for Mark Mulder and Tim Hudson, who would probably say this was not based on a true story. Yeah, the Guelta Hata and Irish Ave. There's a fairly in this movie. None of the true stars of the open athletics really featured in the film. One of the great moments for me of 2025 was when we screen this movie
Chicago and it was a secret surprise screening. And I've never really been able to like lead one of those before. And so when the movie started and people realized in the room what it was and the excitement and the enthusiasm, that was really, really exciting and fun to watch. Yeah, this is an all time great. And really the only truly modern all time classic, you know, like it's, yeah. There's some more that have come out after it that I like a lot, but one that I think kind of transcends. Okay. Is it, it's my pick at number three? Yeah. Hmm. Gosh, where to go? Like a choice. I mean, there are some obvious ones. Yeah, there's some, there's some, some big ones. I want to leave those on the board. Take some. I'm just going to pick my favorite. My favorite that is left right now is a league of their own. You were thinking. Yeah. Wow. I, I mean, I still, I had to take money while I had to do it, but I didn't, I thought it might still be there for me. But you know what? You guys are feminists.
The movie was never a problem. That movie wasn't making it out of the first round. No, no, no, no. I mean, it's, I mean, it's the one. So I mean, it's just, it's just straight up one of the most entertaining movies of all time. So, you know, I'm taking it in based on a true story. Yeah. You know, it is also a comedy and a drama and features amazing performances. Gina Davis, Laurie Petty, Tom Hanks, of course. Great Madonna in this movie. Very funny Rosie O'Donnell in this movie. This is based on the true life story of the All Girls Baseball Association that launched during World War Two to sort of backfill for the absence of Major League Baseball during that time. And yeah, I saw this movie. Me and my brother and my sister in movie theaters with my mom, which I get was in 92 this week. Yeah. So I was 10 years old. And I thought it was hysterical. Thought Hanks was unbelievable as Jimmy Deugan. And where are we at with girls in baseball? Like, I think I think there's a girls baseball team at my daughter's school. Of them. As opposed to softball. Yeah. Like, like, like, encouraging young girls to play the sport.
Yeah, I don't, I should probably get my start getting my head around. I guess I should have asked whether, how do you know, no question, Mark, was eligible for this, for this softball? Because it's softball. I think it's not a good man. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Success. Does Owen Wilson play a baseball player? I thought he's just a sports writer and I can't. Yeah. I saw it once. I don't remember. Baseball. I don't think that's going to be Alice's sport. But if she was like, I want to play baseball, that would be exciting. Yeah. It was always a bummer to me when I was a kid. I had one year of of co-ed T ball. But then it was like, then they go play softball. Yeah. And no shade at softball. But I really wanted to play baseball. Growing up in Rice Trust Town, Maryland in the 90s, I really wanted to play baseball. Calestown. Fucking know it, man. Yeah. Yeah. It's um, the B.J. Surhoff's town, Brady Anderson's town. One thing about this movie, the baseball is really good. Yeah. The staging and choreography of the baseball sequences, the conclusion of the movie with the slide and the ball falling out of the catchers. I just, if people listening to this, have not listened to the rewatchables on the League of their own featuring Mao's strategic breakdown
of that last scene and what people shouldn't do. I recommend it. That's why we podcast. One second. Ladies and gentlemen. Um, and yeah, there's like, I don't know. There's just not many better baseball movies in this movie. Yeah. Right? I want to pitch you guys on something right now. And if you, if you'd like to take the trip to San Francisco since we're, um, it's going to be October. It's going to be Halloween season. Yeah. Let's all dress as the racing peaches for a League of their own. Right. I've never gotten to do it. You know how that was always like the hot girl group costume at Halloween and college. You and me and Sean to dress. Yes. And I'll do it too. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no. You were all, you have to take a 51 second. Yes. I was going to go as, like, my, my, my, my, my, I think that you would look cute in the skirt. You know, Mike Myers one night. Is it a rockford peaches? Rockford peaches and the racing. I forget what their, their team is called. Um, anyway, you know, you know, you know the costumes. You know the socks. Um, my sons do like, I think that was going to be my
last. I think it's a different Cisco trade. And it's always what I think it's like. They drink beverages all day long. They do. They just always have the water bottle that I'm responsible for. You go as Michael Myers all goes out the clown. I just, I had an idea. I'm just, oh, one night. Oh, really? Yeah. Damn. Now I really am not going to have anyone to have dinner with. But did you hear the heat program to this out? So I can't go to dinner? I did hear about this. No one. But I am going to just wear my rockford peaches out for the entire flight from New York to San Francisco. Uh, you more of a kid or a daddy? Kind of sort of a kid. Yeah. For sure. But I will say it feels like one of those things where your answer changes as you age a little bit, just based on like what perspective you're bringing in the moment, but yet, sure. Yeah. That's sort of like a eight in Mr. Big situation. And it goes back and forth over time back away back on Mr. Big. No, that's not a bad idea. Oh, me. I don't know. She's kind of
daddy. I think you're more daddy and you. Yeah. Madonna. I mean, definitely. Yeah. What was Madonna? Oh, may more to be. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. That is so hot. What was your mom's character then? Rosie was Doris Murphy. Yeah. That's a free character. Wow. Special film directed by Penny Marshall. Folder on Moneyball. League of Theron. Yeah. No surprise. That's the top. CR number three. Number four and number five. It's interesting. Two movies from the same friggin year. Let's take field of dreams in drama. Yeah. 1989. Fall to Robinson's Elite adaptation of WP Canceler's novel about Chula's Joe Jackson coming back to life and healing generational divides and families. And this movie, everybody's got one. That's like this movie is my emotional. Kryptonite. Yeah. This movie destroys me. Mm-hmm. This is almost not a rewatchable for me because it's too affecting.
You do dreams. Yeah. We did it as a watchable. We did it as a rewatchable. But like some of like the hardest ugliest cries ever It's come in the last 15 minutes. That's really very beautiful. Um, and it's really quite great. Like I watched it probably within the last five years the whole way through. And for his corny and maybe as like cheesy as some of the stuff is like Boomer, you know, hippied him. Mm-hmm. Kind of like recovery stuff. God damn James Earl Jones is good in this. And Costner is great in this. And Amy Madigan is great in this. And Buzzfield is good in this. And like, Leo, that looks beautiful in this movie is Joe Jackson. It's just an awesome, awesome film. Dude, I rewatched this like when you said we were doing the draft. I know I would only have time to watch a few of them. But I think the way I live my life is I'll just never miss an opportunity to rewatch Bulldoorm and feel the dreams. And actually I didn't money about you. No matter how many times I see it, there are a lot of the big cries as you said, Chris, but
when Moonlight Graham takes that step. I mean, it just destroys you no matter how many times. Like that idea of living your life for a thing that you never got to taste and then you get it for a second and it's gone again. Yeah. What the fuck? The thing about this movie, I rewatched it in 2024. Nice, I similarly have a very emotional relationship to it. I think most young people when you see this movie and especially boys and their dad, so there's a huge stuff going on there. But it's an extremely strange movie about obsession. And I feel like it feels like a little bit more like a horror movie than it does. Like a voice in the point of telling him what to do. And he's like, this thing is family's what well being on it. Yeah, for sure. Just ask his wife a number of times if she thinks he's insane. Exactly. Yeah. So it is not, I think it's not maybe what younger generations might think it is based on the poster of Costner standing in front of the Moonlight and the cornfield. Yeah, I would say the last 20 minutes are different than the rest of the movie.
You know, like that, the rest of the movie is like a time surreal, a time's comic, a time it feels like a midlife crisis movie. Yeah, and a midlife crisis movie and then the last 20 minutes are like, holy shit, the waterworks are on. Yeah. Same year, I'm going to take Major League in comedy. This is kind of like the two sides of my 12 year old being was like one was like getting in touch with like a world of adult emotion and like ideas about like, you're not always going to be young and like time is a thing. But then this move Major League is a movie that I just watched 403 times. And just like Rick Vaughn is an important person to me. As was Renee Russo in this film. Yeah. Yeah. Chancellor Smellin. This is David S. Ward's movie about what would happen if the now Cleveland Guardians, but back then Cleveland Indians had somehow made a crazy run into the playoffs against odds with the evil owner Rachel Phelps who's trying to sabotage the team with the actress so that
she can move the team to Florida and live like a better life outside of Cleveland. But also did we know the then Florida marlins were right around the corner. Yeah. Yeah. The team would change their name to the Guardians. And this is an ensemble of like Dennis Hayesburg, Corbin Bernson, Charlie Sheen, Tom Baringer, Wesley Snipes as Willie Mays Hayes, ton of character actors and it's just a season of baseball comedy and it is perfect still. It's so fucking good when Wild Thing comes in. Oh my God. When they play the song in the whole stadium saying it's fucking electric. Yeah. It really is. So I know how this one ages or how it goes for like, I don't know, like how it would play for like a 13 year old now, but I know it's pretty pretty perfect movie in its own own way. Right back. Let me give some love to James Gammond, the manager Lou. Yeah. Lou Taylor who's unbelievable. Has a heart attack in Major League 2? I probably have seen Major League 2 more than Major League 1. Really?
Yeah. Because it was on cable all the time. Oh my, Eps fan. You know, he did, he did his thing. Solid work filling in for Wesley. Yeah. We would have preferred Wesley Snipes, but you know, he did his thing. Okay, those are two very good picks. There's a character in Major League 2 named Kamikaze Tanaka, who I don't know if that's the most sensitive naming of a character I've ever seen. Oh dear. I want to say Major League also, you know, it's a case for character, dangerous, orano, not exactly the most woke characterization. Yeah. A voodoo practicing slugger. Okay. Can't hit the curve ball. I mean, those are two all-time classics. I'm going to take the most recent favorite in comedy and take everybody once on. Okay. I love that movie. Just because I think it is the most elite baseball hangout movie of all time, I think the thing that gets the most right is what baseball bros are like. Yeah. You know, I played travel baseball. I was just talking with somebody about this. Maybe even your husband, Amanda, but I joined a travel baseball team when I was eight.
And I played travel baseball until I was 17. And so I, in addition to playing for the school team, was just around my teammates around all year for 10 years. Were you preparing Zach for the next decade of his life? That's what we were talking about. I was like, you've got two boys and they're both look like athletes. Yeah. You're fucked. Yeah. And I wasn't even that good, but I was still on a team that was like traveling all around on my own every Saturday. I'm going to say, do you want to be the travel baseball coach? I think you need to be more esteemed than that. No offense. I know you were playing on player yourself. I guess by that I met like family coach. Oh, you mean like your show for free? You're free, you're free. This will be obviously is about a college team, a Texas college team that is very specifically based on Richard Linklater's experience. He grew up as a very competitive baseball player. And the camaraderie of Sam Houston State, what's going on? That's where he played. Yeah, I don't know if that's actually the school that is portrayed in the movie, but that is where he played. And it's just very authentic to the way that the guys should talk,
the way that they talk about girls, how they party, their relationships, their friendships, their rivalries, you know, the ways they don't get along. The, what is Kurt Russell's son's name? Why? Why? The Wyatt Russell character in this movie is one of the greatest amazing things in modern history. So good. And it's him listening to Fleetwood Mac, let's pick Floyd. Let's pick Floyd. Let's pick Floyd. Yeah. You can pick Floyd. Is it Pink Floyd or is it the, I thought he was listening to the song. I thought it was the Arlington Fleetwood Mac song. Oh, you might be right. It is instrumental. Yeah. But it might be Pink Floyd. I can't remember. Anyway, taking Bong hits and then we later learn out, learn that he's 30 years old. One of them most amazing, we're like, casually. It's the leave of the team. This movie cracked me up and is very warm and cozy. Night light kind of a movie that I really dig. So I'll take that in comedy. Great one. Great pack. Oh, Dobbins, what do you do? I'm going to go kids movie. I'm going to do Sandlot. Well, you got to. I think that was the lead.
It's right there. So I'll be going to make that. I mean, this is, so this is also, this is 93. So you get to leave your own in 92. Sandlot in 93. I was like eight and nine. So both of these in theaters don't want to bring up any harsh memories. But baseball is like a live locally. Where I was at that time. And this is. They say much the same thing in Moscow right now. I've renounced them. Yeah. Okay. I was there. But I left. They had one yet at this point. Yeah, but it was exciting. Yeah. You got to, you know, they were in and they had not been like exciting for a long time. And it was on the chop. Not good. I don't think that we should be doing that. That that was embarrassing. But still going. That was their last. Anyway, now I remember watching this as a kid. I've watched it. No, it's insane that they still do it. It's absolutely everything about the braves. Then, but especially now, was that Ray just. Yeah, many people are saying this.
Sandlot. Yeah, it's great. It's the same. Let's bring it back to the sandlot. I showed this to my son who's for my older son who does play T-Ball. And he loved it. Asked to watch it again the next day, which is the sign of a movie really. Yeah. And incredible. Ensemble of young kids, including. I had forgotten until I rewatched how like important my guitar of the nerve was to me growing up. And then he just. Oh, man. And he doesn't act anymore. He's like. It's funny. The jet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Powerful childhood. Powerful childhood. Powerful childhood. I just also got to see like the costume design and these boys. Yeah. It is certainly my fashion inspiration for my children. It may be possibly for myself. They look so awesome. Are you kidding? No, I know. They're amazing. They're the coolest kids in the world. We had Wendy Pephercorn. They had they had many of the Juts. Yeah. So, Sandlot, it is for me. I think that's right, Pek. I was hoping it would somehow fall one more to me.
But I was about to say. I respect the choice. I think that the draft is pretty unimpeachable so far. Without looking, who's the director of the Sandlot? David Mickey Evans. Wow. Who also directed National Improons Barely Legal. You would know that, you know. Which he started. Recently. Yeah, he also directed First Kid. Why? Remember First Kid? And Beethoven's Fourth. But first kid is not chasing Liberty. Well, no, those are two different films. Right, but they're about the same. Yes, but the first kid was a more irreverent comedy. Sure. About what happens in chasing Liberty? Can you tell me right now? Is it Chano-Kate? Mandy Moore is the daughter of the president. Yes. And she was to be free. Who? Two. Who is the president? Yeah. Sinbad. No. Oh, I'm thinking of the Chantata movie where he protects Jamie Foxx as the president. Is it like Tim Madison? Who is it? No, it's Mark Harman. Oh, Mark Harman. Right.
And then who is the person that, uh, she, so why, how does she want to be free? She wants to be free because she's fallen in love with, uh, classmate who's played by Leonardo DiCaprio. No, she wants to go to some parade in Berlin and she falls in love with her secret service agent played by. Oh, Chris Pine. Matthew Good. Chris Pine is for the stories too. Absolutely. I love Matthew. Please. Get your source text. Is there any based on any of these movies? No, love. I don't know actually could be a chasing Liberty. Uh, man. All right. Now you have a turn. I do. Two turns in fact. A couple of movies that I really love. All classics off the board thus far. I think we've got some left for sure. We've got some left for sure. So I'm going to go high concept here because that as you noted earlier is like not the deepest category. And I, I could still get one of my top two picks in that, uh, in that field. So I'm going to take the natural as my high concept. Okay. Uh, yeah, I wasn't.
I didn't think it would be a far-fetched but I thought it would be a second. Yeah, I'm super excited to hear you try to explain this. Go ahead. I'm the table where I was told that medicaloreans were in a Skywalker family. What's my concept about a guy being good about at baseball? But at that. Chris if only it was so simple. So tell me it was so complicated about it. I think so when I asked Sean what's high concept he said anything that has like a magical quality or something that is like highly ambitious. Why are you doing all of this? Remember when he berated me on the Star Wars draft and was like asking me more questions and sometimes then I'll let you do things. I learned my lesson. Why are your nostrils flaring already? I only have to ask you one question. I'm not a question. Okay. I'm not a bad one. He's a very relaxed dungeon master today. I feel like we could get away with a lot of all interesting what I wrote to Mallory. Why he's right. Why is this happening behind closed doors? She texted me. I'm just texting him. Yeah, but I get why I want to bother you guys.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a bother you guys. Bringing in the council. I wrote anything that features a magical presence or quality. Anything that is absurdist and gimmicky. So I would pass it that is pretty broad. Yeah, that's broad enough to make a lot fit including the natural and movie where a prodigious talents, life and career are derailed by a ill-time bullet wound. But also a magical bat is filled by a bolt of lightning. Wonder why? A lightning bolt hit trees all the time. Okay. I think the natural qualifies. Okay. I think it's close but there's a mythological quality to the stories. Exactly. And it is baseball gods. Sure. Come to Earth. Like Roy Hauser is a baseball god. He is a mythic figure. He says much a comic book figure and a figure of lore as he is a baseball player. And so I think by that standard of qualifies. Okay. What do you think? I'm going to allow it. I forgot. I forgot about the also the random gun person. I mean. And why that happened. It's girlfriend.
Yeah. No, but it's a killer. Is it a killer? Yeah. Yeah. What a night that was. Worth it? So I might say worth it. It's a bit of a confusing moment in the story. It is. It's another kind of why I think high concept. And he's actually a little bit of a, oh wait, this is the plot of this movie. Like every time you return to it. But look, you can't really say Roy Hobbs or, you know, these certain key terms from the natural without thinking of the spray of the lights when the Homer hits the light tower. It's just, it's great. Never tire of the natural. So that's my pick for high concept. And then because San Laud is off the board, I will go bad news bears as my kids movie. Which one? The first. Okay. The first with with respect to all the breaking training heads out there of which I am one. I'm going with with the first bad news bears. Great movie. You know, Kelly Leak. An important figure. An important figure for people of our age. The cigarettes. The attitude. In general, bad news bears. You know, what a wonderful story that examines what is winning really worse?
What does it mean? You know, second chances. Newfound connection. And also tell those fucking Yankees where to stick their trophy. You know. Great film. Do you like the sequel? I do. Actually. Do you like the link later remake? I want one thing I'm I like pretty much every link later movie. One thing I'm always a little bit troubled by as I age is when people are like, oh, I watched the wrong bad news bears. Which happens a lot, I think. Meaning they watch the Billy Bounce fan version. And then they're like, oh, wait. So that's always that that happens. I think it's increasing. The original is a very well. I've never seen it until recently. Yeah. It is wonderful. It's so divine. And I was like, oh, this. It's great. It's Michael Richie. Yeah. And him in the middle of an amazing. Those kids are so funny. And it's edgy for their feels when you're a kid. It's definitely a kids movie, but it feels edgy. Right. It feels like slightly promiscuous in a fun way. So yeah, the natural and high concept bad news bears and kids movie back to dog mob. Yeah. I'm I'm sorry for what's about to happen. Boy summer catch.
What? No, I just I many of my comedies are off the board. So I am going to take you. That's fine. Which I also is a beautiful movie. Is that what we were comedy? It's funny. It's an observational comedy. It's also quite sad. I've put it in drama. So are all comedies because comedy is about exploring your trauma through laughing. Right? What? What? What's happening? You circle on the. I don't know. It's it is funny. Yeah, no, it would be considered comedy. But at the end of it is like a real existential. Of course. Which is why I respond to it instead of you know some of like the more slapstick options. Yeah, this is as we were referencing earlier a movie about a wreck league and one game that goes on and on and everything that it reveals about this community of people and what baseball but means to them but also just what it is to be a person and trying to connect with people and trying to find something that has meaning and to preserve it.
I'm going to hit and gem for the last couple of years. Really wonderful. So that is EFIS and that's my comedy. In a tough spot. I'm going to fucking kill you. At least movies are good. I'm going to hit again. I'm in a tough spot. Because there's three movies I want and there's no way all three of them are going to last through Chris's turn. I'm ghost blustering you man. I'm trying to ask you. Are you being Vigo? I'm just trying to go to the carpea. I'm trying to project what I want. I've done it. I can only do so much. It's all good because if you do it it just means we're brothers. It's cool. That's beautiful. In drama I'm taking sugar. That's not what I was going to do. That's what I'm definitely on my list. That's a great movie. That's more than that worked out. Bowden and Fleck. Clicking. All these pics are great. Is this their last great movie? Ms. Dindmissi Peegrine come out before this. It did, right? After. Sugar. After half Nelson and then this.
Sugar was the way it. And a Bowden and Ryan Fleck who are probably best known widely for having directed Captain Marvel. Which isn't a in a treacherous film. In a couple of episodes of Masters of the Air. Yeah, they made some TV. They made some good films since. Was it the Callum Turner episodes? It's the second half after Foucainaga vanished. I can't remember what. Sugar is a film maybe in 2008 about a young player whose nickname is sugar played by Alhanus Perez Soto who is a Dominican farmhand. He's a young, like a rising young talent. And the movie is probably the most realistic portrayal of what it means to play in the minor leagues. It's very different from Bulldogon which is more farcical and fun. And this is more about it's an immigration story. It's a story about a person kind of lost inside of a culture and also a person who has to confront what they do when their life doesn't work out exactly as they're told it's going to work out.
Very like sharply nicely observed drama. And there's not a lot of films about this like like this about sports in general. It is not about a famous person that features an actor you've never seen before. And it does feel like it's from a completely different era in Sundance filmmaking. I really, really like this movie. And it's one of the very few baseball dramas that isn't like a star-laden kind of gloppy vehicle. And we'll see if people get into those any of those films as we keep going in here. But I would take this over some other stuff. Yeah, okay. That's sugar. Impic. Okay, two for me. In based on a true story, I'm going to take eight men out. John Sales is movie about the Black Sox scandal. I think we've talked about this on this pod at various points. But the 1919 World Series and the gambling scandal that rocked baseball. Stars John Q's Act, David Stratharne, DB Swini, you know, litany of other people, especially, uh,
incredible, shoeless Joe pod for me. I know. I know. I know. I've got a shoeless Joe. Shoeless Joe Jackson. I know. Shoeless Joe Jackson. Kind of forgotten because at the time, because a lot of the movies that were coming out about baseball around this time, celebrated baseball and celebrated the mythology and the romance and the fantasy of, you know, you'll hit the home run and the last ending or whatever. And this is about a bunch of guys who, uh, basically had their lives ruined by participating in or being adjacent to a gambling scandal in the early 20th century. And it's a fucking incredible movie. Well, part of it's so good about it is like, there's a lot of nuance in the way that it's portrayed because like, as with all John Sales movies, it's really about power and wealth and who controls who and the idea of ownership and, um, just what a terrible, was it Kymisky was the owner of the team at the time? Yeah, but there's also or Abe Kymisky, yeah, no, always Kymisky because it was the way it talks. Um, but then there's all this stuff about, uh, who put forward effort even in three months, you know what I mean? And like the guy, like various guys who didn't really seem to
have any idea of what was going on or guys who were basically like, I'm not taking the money, but you can only do so much as an individual in a baseball team. And that is, I mean, that is part of them though, the plot of field of dreams, right? Like when he has to reckon with, uh, look, he carries for saying to his dad, like, how could you hear me a criminal? And then of course, this is the, this is the penance, right? And this is the way that he can reconnect with, uh, ghosts of many forms is to find some empathy for, for that experience. So yeah, it says that to me all the time about chase out Lee. I walk in Bill Gordfield. Okay. So I, uh, I take that in based on a true story. Okay. You have another picks here. Yeah. And, I think in, um, high concept, I'm going to take the 1980, not a third 1989 film. And that is Night Game starring Roy Scheigo. Oh my god. Which is about a Houston police detective.
Trying to catch a serial killer who only kills Bluntchicks while the Astros have night games. This is just, first of all, it's a fantastic. Second really, really good. It's one of the greatest movie posters of all time. Yeah. It's a hook hand. Yeah. Through a baseball. Okay. A lot of really good Astridome footage in this movie. Sure. Um, Shider. That's what you were looking for. Shider is on a phone, phoning it in. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever he thought he was signing up for. This is the paycheck of all paychecks. It has such a crazy that guy cast and is mostly about blondes being murdered in Houston. Yeah. And I'm only emphasizing that because the film goes to great lengths to be like, this guy likes killing blondes. Yeah. Okay. Um, it's on to be, I highly recommend it. Peter Masterson directed it, Transworld Entertainment put it out. Yeah. One of our great studios at that time. Um, you see this one? Big Doug. Uh, I have seen this movie.
Sitting at a 2.7 on Letterbox right now. I'm looking for the logs. How do I see how many people have seen this movie? Not many. It's the first true twist of the draft. It'll do your spend. It's good. Test him into my influence in that space to see if we get a couple of, a couple more logs. Oh, get those numbers up. It's the one million club. There you go. You know, Peter Masterson also came up. I forget for the hack man. Did you watch full moon and blue water? No, I don't think so. Terry Gar movie. No, weird career he had. I mean, honestly, a great CR pick. Neither of your picks were the movies that were on my board. Yeah. Fascinating for me. Eighth and out. Was it on your board? It was, but I already picked based on your story. So it was, uh, okay. I don't know where to put this movie, but I'm going to take this movie because this is also a relic of my childhood. I've got two potential spaces where I can put it. Okay. That's exciting. And I think I'm going to put it in high concept. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I'm going to take
rookie of the year. Yeah, you got to. This movie rules. It's really so good. I love it. I have no problem saying one of my absolute favorite movies on my whole life. It's so good. I'm still living it from my heart. You got there first. All I can do. Yes. No, we have the breaks. The breaks. The tendons stays tight. It's too tight. And the doctors are just like, the face. Yeah. You don't need to say it like that. Just because we were all of an age. I was watching night game. If you don't, I'm saying. And did. Okay. Yeah. This is wonderful. The way. Uh, I believe this is Daniel Stern's directorial debut. He also plays the pitching coach in this film. Yes. Phil Brickma. Yeah. Uh, uh, it was the coach coach. Yeah. So Bobby Benia is in this movie as a met. Yes. They're the, the, the, the, the the best. Yeah. And that's our embarrassed, which was hard to accept. But the cubs were kind of a joke at this time. So it was okay. They needed something. Uh, a couple of things about this movie, truly deranged Gary Busy performance as, as Chet Rocket's dead man. Yeah. Um, he was a
night game. He was like, but I love it. He seems completely coca. It's so entertaining. Uh, do me a favor. Kid. Don't call me that. A lot of demons. It's a lot of demons. Thomas Ian Nicholas. Honestly, great job. Great job by him. I, I'm not sure that the science checks out on Henry Rohan Gartner, being able to throw 104 miles an hour, but seems a lot, seem to like a lot of fun when I was 11. I just want to cite two people, one Amy Morton, legendary Chicago stage actress, who plays, uh, Henry's mom, who's terrific in the movie. So wonderful. And they have that nice moment at the end when he's killing the glove. I know. I made you to watch that this morning. Yeah. Baby, every time I see it, but I did like rewatch it this morning, because I was like, I haven't seen this in many years. This is a great kids movie. And then the last person is Bruce Altman, who plays like the new stepdad figure, who's just a real mother, soccer, just a real mother, soccer. Well, I sold him. Uh, yeah, that could have obviously gone in kids movie. Yeah. And maybe I'll be right now taking it in kids movie. Nevertheless, it is a
high concept that a 12 year old boy would be able to throw 100 miles an hour and strike out major leakers. Yeah. Okay. What a movie. What a film. That's true. I probably watched a thousand times when I was a kid. I watched it all the time. Two. And that was on my high concept list. And now it's out, but that's okay. Uh, things are getting a little thin for me. That's okay. You know, so I'm going to go, except for wildcard where I can go for days. So, uh, in based on a true story, I'm going to take the other film that made me cry this morning when I was doing a refresher, which is the rookie. Oh, listen, when he calls his son to tell him that he's going to start in the major leagues, I mean, yeah, it's wonderful. Yeah, this is a really good movie. Yeah. Um, yeah. And every everything with the team, so this is about it's Dennis Quaid plays a high school coach and I believe, I know a high school teacher, I believe Texas, who did not get to pitch. He never got to try out for the major leagues because his dad Brian Cox didn't believe in him. And then he does kind of a sequel. Yeah, prequel to succession. Now that I think about it,
and then at the age of 35, the high school baseball team that he coaches kind of like goes him into trying out. And then he ultimately gets to pitch. And it's just absolutely beautiful. Based on the true story of Jim Morris. Yeah. I would say Dennis Quaid probably has the silver metal for sports movies of this era underneath the capparoni in any given Sunday. Yeah, and then all incredibly credible. I feel quarterback. What's the one with Rob Williams? Best of times. Best of time. No, that's per Russell. Uh, no, but Quaid is a Ellis. He's got a football movie. Hold on. That's not that's not any given something. Yeah. Okay. Second. I think he's a really good as capparoni basically playing Dan Merino in any given Sunday. Yeah. Um, the Loki is a really good movie. Yeah. Really, really. It's, and you know, it's like old school. Very classic. Very sentimental, totally Disney-fied, but works really well. Very emotional. It is the kind of movie that Eat early part of this conversation was like, could you still make this? And would you have stepped it because of its sentimentality? I don't know, but they're trying to do.
What's the Superman plays the giant movie coming out? Mr. Arelator. Mr. Arelator. It was like, it's football. It does look good. And I will say he gave like a very convincing intro. It's cinema con just being like, you know, I'm Eagles born in bread. That is very hard for me to put on a giant jersey. And I just want you to all know. Of course, what's a G. I don't really you'll be asking on that depiction of Lord's Taylor in the preview that I see or Bill Parcells. Or Bill Parcells. Well, I think being played by the Michael Shannon, who's known to play lunatics. Dennis Gray was in Everybody's All-American. Oh, I've never seen that. Uh, Taylor Hackford movie. I haven't ever seen that. Okay. Um, now we're to Mallory for two picks. Oh, hey, hey. Okay. We're getting down to the end here. Who's going to break the seal with Wild card? So I wonder if Mal is going to do here. I am going to take my wild card on the turn. Yeah, I am. I'm going to save drama. Mal has drama based on a true story and wild card. I'm going to take my based on a true story. I'm going to take 61, which I really love. I think that movie is great. It's Billy Crystal.
This is the the Maris mantle movie. Shout out to Amistane. Always fun to see him. I'm more of a Barry Pepper guy. The Barry Pepper is Maris. It's a wonderful performance. Just sensational. You take a fucking optical. I really love this movie. The first time I saw it, I thought it was just absolutely excellent. And I haven't rewatched it as many times as I'd like over the years, but I quite enjoy this film. And it is like a version. You know, you were saying it's kind of like, okay, what where's the, where's the the Sosa McGuire, Bond, Stairradar, like movies, this is obviously a historical backdrop for the PED moment that came after in terms of the records and what stands and how we now appreciate the deeper history and new. But movies, dramatizations, fictionalizations about real baseball history and these moments where every single at bat carried some sort of significant consequence. Just like, I don't know, electric. So yeah,
I love that movie. I'm taking 61 and based on a true story. And then I'm gonna hold on, hold on. Yeah, please. Who is the real, who's the true home run king baseball in your opinion? Oh, wow. Okay. That's a good question. Do you not think it's Barry Bonds because of the Stairradar? I'm asking your opinion. I, my feeling, this is a very, we could have a four hour discussion on this, but I think that it's a complicated thing in real time to litigate cheating and baseball because there are versions of cheating and baseball across baseball. I agree. Right. So betting on the game is like befailing something sacred. So that's why you're not acknowledging P. Roses hit king in honor of brand wizard tie Cobb. The Barry Bonds hit those home runs. He did it with some, with some aid. To me, it's, it's crazy that Barry Bonds wouldn't be in the whole theme. Do you disagree? Barry Bonds is the best baseball player I've ever seen. Yeah. So without question. And I got what about you? What do you think?
I mean, I, it's funny. I'm going through this right now. It'll be air and judge by any of it. So cheating for the last decade and the Premier League. Is that, has that been happening? Yes. Yeah. And they've been brought up on 114 charges of financial fraud. Wow. I miss one. Was dude part of it? Dude is not part of it. Okay. Thanks. I'm not. Very important. Not my beloved. J.O.S. I'm going to part of it. Oh, dear. Oh, yeah. Everybody's got to return those. There's no case. I don't think that they should have to give back those trophies. They won them. Yeah. Can you name the 10 seasons in which a player has hit 60 home runs? No. Sorry. I think I'm like a bunch recently. Like didn't count. I could do it. I'll probably do it. John, John, this way. Aaron judge. Yeah. He did it in in 2022. Bonds. Bonds did it one time. Yep. He hit 73. Sure did. Roger Maris hit 61. Hank Aaron. Hank Aaron never hit 16 this season.
Okay. Did Hank or even hit 50 this season? Not sure that he did. He just hit 40 for 30 years like that. I believe so. Yeah. Obviously McGuire and Sosa who we already talked about. Of course. Hank Aaron's the most he hit. It was 47 in the season. McGuire hit it. Did it twice? Sammy Sosa did it three times. Sammy Sosa had 66, 64 and 63 home run seasons. Pretty remarkable. And P.D. and four bats. Yeah, he did have some help. Barry Bonds was 36 years old when he had 73 home runs. That's older than Kyle Schwarber and Bryce Arper right now. True. So it could go the other way. Yes, they could get on P.D. Bond starred out. Yeah. Okay, you have a second pick. I'm sorry. Interrupt. Oh gosh. Thing that Jude had some teammate relations issues recently. Okay. Someone from Realme. Oh, yes. Yeah.
Yeah. But my two remaining categories are in trouble while. Yeah. They seem to do that based on what I learned this summer. Okay. The highest overall rated movie that I still have left is. And according to who to me to my personal ranking. Okay. My my color coded spreadsheet that I quickly whipped up. Great. I mean, could I try to get it into drama like maybe, but I think it would be more authentic to take it as my wild card. So I'm going to take Damienke's. Fuck. Mallory. Sorry. Really? That was going to be my whole musical comedy and high concept. I mean, you're selling your soul? Yeah, it certainly could have been. I almost took it in high concept earlier. Yeah. Then I was allowed to take the battle. That's true. Yeah. What the fuck Mallory? I mean, fine. Luckily, I have another bad. You can get back in the back of me by taking the silver catch in the last trail. Okay, fine. Whatever. Go ahead. This movie's great. No, I mean, it's that reaction says you made the pick for me. I think with that reaction. Wonderful concept. Wonderful film. Wonderful. I'm in one of them. Wonderful theatrical production. Yeah. Did I see this on the stage? I didn't.
No, I debuted some time ago. I think just you tell our first and is like, just does it, has been doing it for like 12 years or something? The sensational stuff. Isn't it Bob Fossy who originally did the choreography in this? Yeah, and it's Gwen Verdun in the movie. As well, Fossy is in the, that's what I was just singing when they do the Mamba number. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. Sorry. It's fine. It's okay. Joe Hardy, Hi-Slee. I'm actually like, you know what I'm gonna say. My pick is, the pick I have left is stupid, but funny to talk about. Okay, let's hear it. You're up. Well, who says I'm gonna do that? You're just gonna go to Wild Card and take Goodwill Hunting. And the scene that with the, this scene in the therapy office, I had to see about a girl, you know, when he's recounting. So this is like, yeah, okay, so this is why you were asking earlier. Yeah, it's just, yeah. Interesting. Multiple baseball scenes in Goodwill Hunting. But we call it a baseball movie. Well, we, we talked about this at the beginning. Yeah. You work project for it where baseball scenes in, baseball related scenes and non-bass moments. It's interesting.
They do also get kicked out of a little game. But they do. The scene in the movie is going to the little league game when talking shit and singing the blacers. Yeah. A bunch of fucking losers. Yeah. It's a great movie. I think that's totally fine in Wild Card. The Carlton Fisk and, you know, reenacting it and waving it out. And I had to go see about a girl. There we go. So, shot at Goodwill Hunting. Who are you rooting for this year in the playoffs? Can't wait for the Red Sox. Probably Bruce. Yeah. We'll see some Miz magic. No, it was pretty cool. It was love to the Phillies, you know. We have the Dodgers. Not Dodgers, obviously. We have the Braves and the Dodgers if we get past the Braves. So it's off-road. If we get to pass the Dodgers, it's because like God has come down and touched Bryce Harper and it's going to happen. That would be made of all that. That's a movie making. Could absolutely happen. Okay, is it my pick? Yeah. Yes. Oh my. Kids movie.
Banger's left. I'm going to take the bad news bears and breaking training. I'm not going to say it's better than bad news bears. It's not. It's good, but in terms of like you lost your star and this is clearly a cash grab, kind of remarkably good. Yeah. Sure. Two reasons. One is mid-leg too. Kind of similar. Although rather than try to replicate buttermaker with a different actor, they bring in William Devane as Kelly leaks long lost dad. Kelly leak finds him. The whole movie is about this struggle between them. Their inability to get along, but William Devane turns us be a creative manager. Speaking of the Astridome, some great Astridome stuff in breaking training. They're playing against the Houston team. And I think legitimately one of the best sports equals ever. There's a couple of movies that I liked when I was a kid that are still on the board here. And we can talk about them. I don't think those movies are actually good though. Whereas I do think the bad news bears in breaking training is good. I'm not trying to solve any of these
picks in affection. Like if you put one of those movies on for me right now, I think I'd be like, I'm not as into it, but we can save that conversation in case those films come up. So bad news bears in breaking training. Okay, CR, you've got two, are these your last two picks? These are my last two picks. Can I have summer catch in kids movie? Very kids. They're young adults. Yeah. Yeah, what do we mean by kids? I think why not? I think kids is like a little restrictive. Summer catch is rated PG 13 for sexual content language and drinking. I mean, I would be mad at you. It's targeted at 13 year olds. Yeah, I agree. Do you? Willard, Prince, Denny, all cooking. Yeah. Cooking in it. Yeah, they're cooking. Do you know what summer catch has on Rotten Tomatoes? I think it's like a 5% or 8%. Yeah. Okay. 8%. Why did say it was a long lost American cinematic classic? It's just my kids movie of choice.
That's what I see for you. And it's about Freddie Prince plays a prospect who has one last summer to show his wares to pro scouts. So he's in this like, uh, basically like this minor league semi-pro league in Cape Cod. Yeah, Cape Cod. And then Jessica Beale comes along, gets in his head. And starts thinking about a life outside of baseball. And all his boys are like, this is your chance. You got to, you got to, he's like an Otani-esque two-way player. And Tendley, this is, Beale plays this woman named Tendley. She's, she's getting in his head about. Tendley Parish. Yeah. Life and love. This movie was sold so hard to me and many other young men with a very memorable image of Jessica Beale emerging from a pool. Yes, sure. Which was probably featured in the trailer. I know it well. I still didn't go see it. I like it more than all the kids movies that are left. Okay. Yeah. And in Wild Card, Interstellar.
His baseball Interstellar. The Yankees playing Interstellar during the Duster. I remember the Duster. Okay. The way that Christopher Nolan chooses to communicate the severity of the environmental crisis facing these people is to, is to ruin a baseball game with a, with a dust storm blowing over. Yeah. We also, in addition to having a run out of engineers ran out of farmers, you know. Right. Right. Cool. In addition to having a shoeless Joe draft, you've also had a cornfield draft. Yeah. Yeah. And it's telling because I've started to move into off of snow and mountain horror into cornfield horror. Okay. Okay. Okay. It's cornfield horror season for you. Yeah. Yeah. So what comprises that children of the corn of course. Yeah. How many of those films have you seen? Also, Jeepers, Creepers, problematic, but also very good horror movies. And we have so much time in October to talk about problematic horror movies. I promise. I'm going to call that a lot of space. I was just, I was just saying corn is on the mind.
If the more problematic the movie, the better for you. No. No, not when it comes to horror. You know, I like it right down the middle. Okay. Okay. Good to know. Anyway, uh, interstellar is my wild card. Sure. Why not? Can I ask you a sincere question out of genuine curiosity? Are there not like other more fully framed around baseball baseball movies that you like enough to take? Or is it more just you want to take a stellar acknowledging a beginning? High concept is a movie where a guy hits a home run. I'm not, I'm not trying to challenge the pick. I'm genuinely curious. So you like, I don't really like any more of these baseball movies. No, I have a bunch that I could have picked. Yeah. But I thought it would be fun if I just don't sell. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of my wild cards. I would say are only tangentially baseball related. Sure. Okay. I have a wild card. Now, there are plenty of baseball scripted baseball movies on the board still. Documentaries. But I'll be taking baseball by Ken Burns. Wait, is that eligible? Just fucking got it. 61 eligible? My kid.
61's a feature film. Ken Burns is a... Where did it air? HBO. But Ken, I mean, the baseball is nine discs. Sure. I know it's because it was one of the graduation gifts I received for my dad for high school graduation, the box set. It's a film. It's a documentary film. Great. A lot of great Walter Johnson, big train info in there. That's a wild card. You know, we allowed good while hunting. So I think it's okay to... Why are you talking to me like I'm a charity case? We discussed the parameters. She and I brought good content. We brought good content ideas. As did Ken Burns. I mean, the baseball rules. Is this not a mini series, Sean? That's what that's what I was asking. We have... They're all big. We've expanded the parameters of this category. Okay. And so I'm... I'm feel free. You could have had so much fun. You could have picked something wacky. Yeah. I'm here to represent the... You're in historicity of this sport. Which is finally told decade by decade across nine innings in the original series. Now, one thing I wanted to point out, there was an expansion of the baseball series in 2010
to account for the time period between 1994 and 2010. It transpired. A lot of time spent on baseball and 9-11 and the relationship that baseball fans had and New Yorkers amazing like Piazza Home Run after the 9-11 game. It's now been 16 years since the 10th inning installation. You know where this is all going. Ken Burns' National Parks, Ken Burns' Baseball, when they play a baseball game at Grand Teton, like they ask Trump if they could do. That's when the two films collide. And using church. Using church to direct it? Whatever he'd like to do after office, that would be great. Anything to get him out of the pit. If he wants to make films, I don't have anything. I'm going to have to do. Should he... Should he run Paramount? Yeah, it is... I don't know. I don't know why I am. You had to fight it. Fight it. She and I did a lot of work. You know, like we really looked into where our baseball has been found in cinema.
By pointing out two of the most popular movies for the history of the show. He grabs on where he's at. I'm going to work with that coach. Yeah, I got a lot of those. I'm just saying. Yeah, this... I mean, it is more... It's episodic. If you want, I'll take Avengers Endgame on course. Because there is, of course, the memorable sequence in which Joe Russo says, I miss the Mets. And there is an overhead shot of an abandoned city field. That's right. I think you should do that. I think you should do that. I have to do that. Because I want the social engagement of people who feel like why the shot have a traumatic brain injury. I mean, there are other good documentaries. I could guess. Yes. Of course, there are. Yeah, there are a lot of them. I find my time. I know I was on the big documentary. Well, this is the biggest of them all. Yeah. This is the biggest baseball documentary that ever will be. Was it eligible for Oscars or was it eligible for Emmys? It won an Emmy. Do you think the Ken Burns should continue to say? Was it eligible for Oscars or was it eligible for Emmys? Well, oh, okay. Why?
It was eligible for Emmys. What? Stop making the face to me. I don't do anything. Do you want to do anything? I don't do anything. Of course. I started pointing out the obvious. Well, Sally filled out 61. Sally filled one in Emmy for the Octopus movie. Yeah. Remarkably break pictures. Yeah. Congratulations to her. Chris has a scene. I have not seen it. Do you know what's narrated by? It's narrated by somebody. Well, yeah, it's the octopus. The octopus is the voiceover. I haven't seen the film when I read the book. Ever since they took Paul, the octopus for me, I haven't really engaged with Octopus content. There was my octopus teacher. Sure. He brought that in. And then Paul, the octopus run in the fucking table on the roll cup. Yeah. And then he's RAP. So I'm just. You know who voices the octopus, right? In the film. No. It's Al from Melina. That's cool. Oh, yeah. Doc, uh, versus me. Yeah. That's right. Exactly. Okay. Amanda, you can have. You're taking baseball by Ken Burns. Yeah. And Amanda is. So since we're all feeling flexible. Let me pitch. Oh boy.
Oh god. Okay. This is going to be more of a change of purpose. I think you guys on the the high concept of a movie about a magical baseball that that'll house you're in a dental cafe. To take on the high drinking. Oh, yeah. Remember you're specifically a marine. I have bad news for you. That is a softball bat. So yeah, because you can have it when he's got a lousy fucking softball player, jam. Yeah. And he said, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about when it's, oh, he really does think better with that bat. Is that still a, that's a softball bat? No, that's a baseball bat. That is a wooden baseball bat if I remember correctly. He's a little bit of bat in a softball. A baseball on the background. A good man. By any definition of a baseball bat. Let me, let me pitch you on another. I'm not their hot concept movie. About two men. Not brothers by blood. But brothers by the streets of Boston. And specifically Charles town.
Oh, wow. Let's go. Who need to rob Fenway Park? Yeah, sure. She's not going to punch it in. Yeah, punch it in. Yeah, thank you. Sorry. Because they have to pay back. Which one do you think is more baseball? I mean, neither of them are high concepts. Like one is a legal drama and the other is a high-smovie. They're just genre movies. If you come up with a movie that is a high-concept movie that has baseball in it, we could at least entertain the concept. Okay. Can I give you one? Well, I do actually have one more that I want. I just want to bring the one. We're podcasting. That's going to cheat. I was going to have to do it. Just keep moving. Okay, I have one more. I think those were great pitches. You know, and you picked a TV show and so did you. So whatever. But those are at least, those are films that were released in theaters. That have baseball. If you had never played pivotal roles. If you had never opened the can of worms on wild card, we wouldn't be in the situation.
I did it, Tusa. I think if we were to say we were doing strict definition of what? Of all categories. Okay. We wouldn't be in this. But because we opened up Pandora's Box, we're in one position that I don't have a high concept because she took Damienke's. No, we wouldn't. We might have been, you know, having to work through. I don't know. Well, you needed to watch more high-concept films. Because there are more out there. Thanks so much, Sean. I love your feedback. Keep pitching now. So if you get one across the line, or we can just keep this show running in perpetuity. Okay. I have one more that I watched on Fast Four. In the last 45 minutes before Chris and Mal got here. You guys know about the catcher. Was this by? Yes. Did you see it? Yes. Not a high-concept movie. But the catcher was his by. Can I put it on? Yeah. Yeah. But that he has to like defuse a bomb or something. I think you're not understanding high-concept.
Take days to confuse. I did. But Mallory took it from me. And then you took rookie of the year and he took field of dreams. I don't know if it's too late to do angels of the house. You've done too. I don't like angels. I don't know. I'm not a morning. I don't get to do movies. What about Casablanca? I should be able to take Pocahontas. They don't have baseball. I know those films well. Terence Mallory's the new world. I don't want angels of the house. What about Little Big League? Yeah. Little big leagues is definitely an orange pole. Oh, okay. That makes me so great. Obviously, what you were referencing earlier, right? Little Big League and Angels in the Outfield, I assume. No, they're not big. They're not actually good, but like we have a fun. They're memorable from our youth. Watch them thousands of times. Why can't I do days in confused? I don't think it's a high concept movie. It takes place over the course of one night. Is that a high concept? It's a concept. It's not really. And they get high in the movie.
That's funny. If she pitched that, I would have accepted that. Oh my god. Incredible. I'll reread when I wrote to Mallory. What you did it right to us. Features it. So once again, that's important. There was the definition. Because that's the biggest. You could have asked. I mean, you know what? I don't like to ask for permission. I like to ask for forgiveness. Well, unfortunately, you have to get permission from me to end this episode. Magical. I don't know. This film featured you walk off and you're driving in complete. Yeah. Do you want to file an incomplete? I don't think so. The film must feature magical presence or quality, anything that is absurdist or gimmicky. Okay, I'm googling magical baseball movies. You want to do this? We're going to do this. Okay. Let's see. I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. We have one on the board. If this be a high concept, baseball, I don't think so. Okay. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'm willing to hand you this one. You may not have seen this movie. Okay. But I think Brewster's Millions is a great high concept baseball movie. What about it happens every spring?
I've never seen that. Also eligible. There's a substance that comes into play. I thought we're full of love that the game would be a high concept baseball movie. I had it, but then. I think that's debatable. Isn't it structure? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. High concept is the first thing that they walk into the room and they pitch the movie is like it takes place over the course of one game. This guy having flashbacks about his emotions. And in a way, for the game, Yankees is. Usually in Fletcherland, well, then for love of the game can be. But damn Yankees involves creating your soul. Satan is in. Damn Yankees. I, you know, I will say this. You even know what's going on in Kostner's head. I just love him. I mean, he's okay. I can assure you that. Got a hand job under a towel. Ask how do you like to be kissed? So we have a pretty good idea. Actually, I have on my camera roll, as I've said on rewatchables before, about 5,000 pictures of Kevin Kostner smelling his glove. In that movie. Very important film. I wouldn't mind it being selected in the strapped. I'm willing to roll with that if that's something you want to. You want to take Yankees?
Yes, it's a great land. And it's eligible. That is definitely all. That's how it would be. And it's about a baseball playing monkey. And it was the first project that Matt LeBlanc signed on. And then he got the answer. And after that, the friends success. That is actually an incredible fact. Fine. And it is. And it is eligible. You're going to get to take some footage. Fully shit. That was really worth it. Genuinely, that was great. I think I'm out. You're out. Mal has one more pic. Excuse me. We're going to get to go on the day, folks. It's hard to top Ed. To bring the draft host to my last, actually, I haven't taken my drama. My last pic is my drama. Wow. Wow. Congratulations. Interesting. Interesting. Well, Ed's off the board. Yeah. But for Love of the Game is still here. I could go with the cost in her book and, you know, Boulder, I'm to open and for Love of the Game to Close. But I'm going to take 42. I feel like that movie should be selected in this draft. Yeah. Right? Sure.
People have just took Ed off my lunges. I'm going to hold slides across off Ed, which I did have on my board. I got to say. Yeah. There are a lot of movies that weren't taken. Angels in the Afield, Little Big League. So. Pride of the Yankees. For Love of the Game, Fever Pitch, Million Dollar Arm. Shish. Yeah. A lot of documented. Harbaul didn't get taken. Okay. Bang the drum slowly didn't get taken. I think bang the drum slowly and the bingo along traveling all stars are both great. So I- Those are two, like, great 70s movies that don't have as much of a legacy now. But are both very, very- I was deciding for my- I think everybody wants them. For my pic here, I was deciding between between, between 42 and bang the drum slowly. But I don't know how many- I don't know how many people have seen bang the drum slowly. Do we think? I've seen it. Great movie. I think all of the photos- I think all of the photos- Very, very good. Michael Moriari and Robert De Niro as a pitcher and catcher- White sad. Who are literally tied together, contractually and emotionally. That's right. Uh, you know, I think Amanda, you could have gone after the naked gun.
Oh, interesting. Sure. But like, I don't really care about that. So I mean, it was an iconic thing. Would you have a lot of Amanda to take Ferris Bueller's day off? Yeah. You're really interested in movies across one day being high concept. Oh, is a high concept movie? I wasn't saying that. I was like saying it's a wild card. Oh, it's a wild card, sure. Yeah, it's a wild card, yeah. Okay. It's a wild card. Oh, it's a wild card. High concept, I think I just had a different interpretation. But you know what? You're the author of this pod. You know what about Mr. 3000? Yeah, for sure. Have you seen that? That's Bernie Mac. I have some Bernie Mac. The late great Bernie Mac plays a, a player of some renowned who we learn due to a clerical error. And in fact, he did not get 3000 hits in his career. He was three hits short of 3000 hits. And so at the age of 47, he goes back to the major leagues to try to get three more hits. Do you think the fan is high concept? I thought that you might take the fan as like a wild card. I rewatched it for this.
Drama. Just to check in to see if it was any better than I'd realized or if I could reclaim it. Yeah. And it wasn't as good as I had hoped. I don't know if it's high concept. Okay. It's basically just the king of comedy, but for baseball. What about the scout? That is a comedy. I'm not sure if it's high concept. I kind of like the scout Steve Nebraska, played by Brendan Fraser, plays a rising psychiatric issue. Baseball star with some problems. Okay. And Albert Brooks is the scout who holds his hand through the process, leading him to Yankee Stadium. Leading him to a therapist, played by Day and Weast. That's right. Sure. That's right. I thought Dobbins might take trouble with the curve. The Clint Eastwood movie? Yeah. Hmm. It's kind of the anti-money ball. I do think I saw that. But I don't have any of the skills on the scale. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The white light has baseball. Sure does. The white light has baseball. Which one? Boyhood. Boyhood. Yeah. My best friend's wedding has a pivotal baseball scene. Very great. Showdown. No, it's it's white socks.
Kermiski. Yeah. Okay. Were you hoping more documentaries would be taken? No, no, a documentary facing Nolan. Yeah. Lifetimes of Henry and Virg, Gleeg, Of Fagrass. Better best for the baseball. Yeah, there's a lot. I think they're all good and not great. Chris, you didn't take Cobb. I didn't. It was between that and a million dollar arm. He'd tell Amanda a bit about Ty Cobb. Well, he was racist. Yeah. I think he was from Georgia. As many races are. I believe the Georgia Peach is nickname. And he was a diehard competitor. What was Ty Cobb? Okay. Yeah. Detroit Tigers. For the entirety of his career, I believe. He was the Georgia Peach. Yeah. Yeah. He was a virulent racist. He played 24 seasons. He had a career betting after 366. Yeah. He was portrayed by Tommy Lee Jones in Ron Shelton's Les Bolovan. Followed up to what were in terms of baseball? Huge huge movie for Robert Wolfe. Just making sure that
for North of 10, that's actually made after Ty Cobb. And it's not. But North of 10 twice. War North of 10 twice in North of 9. He was an absolute demon. Baseball. Who Ty Cobb? His career war is 149.8. That is it. He was significantly better than everybody except for who Babe Ruth Rodgers wants to be. You guys like studying Ty Cobb stats, huh? Oh, I was falling. Again, I mean, if you're a Ken Burns baseball fan. Yeah, I was selling to baseball stats as a kid. What else is on the board? Any other long list stuff? What's the effect? Let's see. Anybody ever see Game 6? Don DeLillo script. Yeah. Michael Keane. Oh, no. Which all takes place effectively through a guy who has tickets to Game 6 of the 1986 World Series, but doesn't go. That's a crazy lost downing performance, right? Yeah. Isn't he the theater critic? Yes, he is. Isn't that. Um, we talked about Friday and Keezer. You know what movie I really, we didn't really talk. I'll pair it with another movie that I'll recommend for people if they haven't seen it, which may not have aged super well in terms of its relationship to psychiatric health. But in 1957, there's a great movie called Fear Strikes Out
about Jimmy Purcell based on a real player played for the Red Sox. I had that on my list, too. That's great. That I saw as a kid. Anthony Perkins plays him. And I think it's like right before he, it's right before Psycho. Yeah. And he's amazing as a, an Al Fielder who gets the Yips. Not unlike we were just discussing Drake May's got the Yips right now. And a guy who can't hack it in the field or at the plate because he's having some mental struggles. And it's like a, I thought a pretty sensitive movie given the time frame because Carl Maldon his father in the movie. And it's like really hard on him. What else? Any other movie? Is this Lutter's wife as bad as everybody says it is? I've never seen it. Haven't seen it. It's got like a 2% on it. It's how it's like how I should be his last movie. 2%. And you know Simon wrote it. Yeah. I will say that the catcher was the spy. What is his bad is it? It was. It's very bad. Really. Twice the speed. I like to get that in. Yeah. Uh, one last question for you guys. Baseball? Yeah. I have it on my list. Is that a baseball movie? Absolutely. I think it is. Or I have, of course. Specifically not because it's base get ball. Yeah. I mean, there's is baseball.
Baseball has to, yeah. Of course. Baseball and you're still an old off of. We allowed that. We didn't allow. What did you, which gone with the wind? What'd you go for? That was Ty Cobb. Like I've fever movies. I see one movie. I think a few good men in the town. And catcher was a spy, which is quite bad. Yeah. Days and confused. Mm-hmm. Yeah. All great films that in one way or another. But another. They all would have been great while, like our picks. Include the sport of baseball. Yeah. There's probably baseball on other movies. What am I not thinking about? War of the Worlds. Oh, sure. Catcher's son. Yeah. That's a part of it. For like two seconds. Looking out the Red Sox Yankees rivalry. Yeah. That's right. That's right. Mm-hmm. Cruise. Speaking of our next episode is about Tom Cruise. Mm-hmm. And Digger. Exciting. Yeah. Would you say they were excited about it? Sure. Looking forward to it. Yeah. I'm interested. But you don't. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. Mm-hmm. No, not yet. But I tend to- Doesn't seem like shinesum. I tend to say this, you know,
let me look this morning. It's something available mid-morning. That's kind of my approach. Unless it's like, I don't know what to say. I like that. That's a good way to live life. Yeah. Yeah. You will see it opening weekend? It's this coming weekend, right? Well, Saturday I'm going to see the director's cut of Miami Vice. Sick. Michael Mann will be presenting it. Okay. I will be present. Just you and him together. You're levitating right now. So sit at that. So sit at that. So sit at that. So sit at that. So sit at that. So sit at that. He's holding up an iPad for you. But I will go see Big D this weekend now. Okay. Big D. Should we recap our draft picks? Sure. All right, Mallory, since you went first, you can go first. Okay. In order. Well, around one through round six. You're the only person who keeps that track. Run around. Okay. Go ahead. I took Bouldera as my comedy in round one. In round two, I took the natural as my high concept and bad news bears as my kids movie. In round four, I took 61 as based on a true story
and Damienke's is my wild card. And then I took 42 as my drama in round six. Dobbins. I'm just reading them as they are in the spreadsheet. In comedy, I took EFIS in drama, Money Ball in high concept, the acclaimed film, Ed. And based on a true story, the rookie, and kids movie, the Sandlot, and in Wild Card. Goodwill Hunting. I love when you do the Scrolett Johansson Her voice. Did you do these like lists? No, I can't. Because when you're talking, baseball, the catcher was a spy. In comedy, I took everybody once. Some in drama, I took sugar in high concept. I took rookie of the year in based on a true story. I took a league of their own. In kids movie, I took the bad news bears in breaking training and in Wild Card. I took Ken Burns as baseball. It is a wild card. In comedy, I took Major League in drama. I took field of dreams in high concept. I took Peter Masterson's night game. Um, and based on a true story, I took eight men out.
In kids movie, I took summer catch, BG 13. In Wild Card, I took Christopher Nolan's interstellar. I had a full closing. I was scratching fixed for you. And night, and night games, this happens so many drafts where I'm playing so within the lines for the first three picks. Yeah, and then I have a massive brain hemorrhage and start. Is that what happens? Yeah, all the time. And always like, I'm going to win. I'm fucking dominating. Is it at the like 42 minute mark? You're like a now. Yeah, like my three picks for a new song. And then focus, it's just that like, that's your title. I start to just overthink it and like, oh, what would be cool here is if I did something for laughs. And then I'm like, oh no. Oh no. Oh no. You should, at the next live show, you should bring like samurai energy. Should be like, I'm not going to miss. No, I'm here to win. Yeah, because you know, she's one of like the last nine consecutive lines. Wow, and a rougher and peaches.
I got it. We got to figure that out. I just have a Hanzo sword. I still get a rock for. Maybe you should be a Beatrix kiddo from Kill Bill. I think I'm going to be a Bruce Lee. Okay. Um, I'm not going to be a rock from peach, but I'm going to be something. Are you going to wear a costume? Of course I will. Don't wear a mask. This has not been discussed before. It's a great idea that you nailed it. So are you? I don't. I don't rock for peach. You won't do any other costume. I just thought it would be a nice group. So I never got to do that. You know what you should do. You never asked. We should make her do be the girl from the ring. The hair down. I've already got that. I'm calling her. Call that Tuesday. Um, okay. Hey, Mal, thank you very much. Guys, thanks for having me. I want to treat love baseball. Love you guys. Love Kevin Costner just to recap. Yeah, thanks. And I already said. Good job. Is it shame you don't have like a legendary baseball player as your guest to throw to you right now? A legendary base player. I'll play for Beck, you know, throw into my lawn. Is he a legendary baseball player to me?
I don't know who'd be my ideal. I'm in Carson Beck. Mike Piazza right now. Carson Benjers my guy. Mike Piazza. I complicated. Yeah, I know. He was a great legend to me once upon the time. Now I believe he's fully behind Donald Trump. So. And he was mean to shy a little buff. Is that a fact? Yeah. What do you say? Did he not deserve it? When did when did Mike Piazza and child buff interact? He talked about it on his channel five interview. Shilobuft did. Oh, okay. He said that Mike Piazza treated him like shit when he was trying to get his autograph when he was a kid. No kidding. Yeah. Oh, wow. Gosh, that's a whole other episode. That's just that's a rich text. I want to table that. Thanks to Jack Sanders or producer for his work on this episode. Thanks to man. Thanks to Lucas Kavanaugh. Thanks to Ed. I mean. Amanda, thank you, Amanda. For all your great works here. Amanda and I shall return. imminently. Maybe. To discuss. If it's just me on digger. If the apology is written down, you'd be solo on digger. And right aloud. To that property.
Okay, I'll see you guys very soon. Talk about digger. Bye. Will.
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