The 7 Hermetic Principles: The Hidden Laws That Shape Your Reality

0:00When we experience some synchronicity, we can say, oh, that's a coincidence. I don't believe in coincidences anymore. Coincidence is a word that we use to describe a state of ignorance. I think the hermetic principles is almost like a manual for how to live here in the matrix. This is the red pill part of it. That everything you've been living is not really this material world. The only way you could change your experience is by changing your vibration. Your heart is the tuning dial. To what radio station you're gonna tune into. Embracing unworthiness opened me to my worthiness. You attract everything you judge until you no longer judge what you attract it. All of a sudden I get this notification saying, you've been banned on Instagram. I was like, what the heck for? What if the patterns shaping your life aren't random, but a part of a deeper set of laws that you were never taught to see? Welcome back to the Healing Human Potential Podcast, where today we're gonna explore the hermetic principles which are ancient teachings that reveal how our inner world shapes our outer reality. Wildlife moves through cycles of polarity, vibration, cause and effect, and what becomes possible when we learn to work with these laws, instead of unconsciously against them.

1:02Joining us is Robert Edward Grant, Polymath, mathematician and consciousness researcher who's here to break down the seven hermetic principles, and he shows us how understanding the hidden patterns of reality can actually change the way we understand ourselves. It's a good one, let's dive in. I wanna dive deep into the hermetic principles, and before we go into each of them, I want you to just share what are they, and why does understanding these as foundational principles change the way we live? I think the hermetic principles is almost like a manual for how to live here in the matrix. Great. That's why the very first one is introducing a concept that will seem entirely foreign for someone who's lived on earth for their whole life, whatever that length of time is. The very first principle is mentalism. This is basically the idea that the all is mental, and that tends to set a lot of people off right away and say, wait a minute, this is like,

2:02is this the red pill that I'm taking? Yeah, this is the red pill part of it. Everything you've been living is not really this material world. It's actually just you projected to your outer world, and I can give you tons of examples of this. I would love that. Yeah, ground of course. Of course. Recently. So I was in the UK in May, and we did this big crown chakra activation in Scotland, 1,500 people came for it. It was a Matthias was there. It was a really epic, amazing experience. And I came home, and usually the integration after these trips is kind of a challenge because it's like you're on this adventure. It's this amazing trip. Then you come home and it's like, well, this is like regular life again. And then you're going through this integration after integration after integration. And not long afterwards, I ended up going to Bali. And so I know you just went there too. And so while I was there on July 4th, we went to this place that was called, it was on an island called Nusa, Peneda. And there's a cave there called the Goa Giri Putri cave,

3:06which is a place that apparently Shiva visited with Shakti and had this whole experience. And there's like a baptism you get in there and everything. And I'd never been in every four. So I went in there and each of the nodal points inside the cave is like a different chakra point. And then you finally go up into this one room. It's kind of upstairs within the cave that's supposed to be the room of Shiva and Shakti. And we had like this pretty amazing experience the entire day there. It was like this long day. And we come out of it. And everybody, it was actually in the 5th of July there, it was 4th of July here. And because they're a day ahead, as you know. And so as I come out of the cave, I felt like, okay, this is going to be something big because we just been in Scotland we're visiting this place that was significant and relational to the Rudra grantee. So you're not the Rudra grantee is? So it's an energetic knot that sits in between the pineal and pituitary glands that sort of blocks you from being able to have your energy move up your Kundalini

4:07and stay up. So you could feel it momentarily. You can have experiences of so-called enlightenment. But you can't actually get through that knot. And energy will be able to stay up there for long sustained periods of time beyond just like an hour of samadhi here or there. And so you have to dissolve this knot. And so the dissolving of the knot of the Rudra grantee and it's called a knot in Sanskrit is grantee, which is funny because it sounds like my name. Yeah. The first time I'd learned of this is when I was at a wedding in Miami and the wedding, you know, there was no efficient at the wedding. It was a Sikh wedding and Sikhism is a religion that's in India. And they believe that there are no gurus, right? And the only book they have that is their guru and it sits literally up on the stage by itself. And they only have a person that reads from it. They'll never has a guru teaching in Sikhism. And I said, what is that thing? And they said, oh, that's the Guru-Grant Sahib.

5:08I go, Guru-Grant Sahib. And it's like, yes, it's like the honorific Guru-Grant, the grantee. And I'm like, the grantee. So what does the grante mean? Oh, it's the end of Guru because it represents a knot, right? It's this covenant that we make by coming into this world. And I'm like, well, that's so weird. I mean, it's such a weird thing. And so then I realized and learned later through hermetic teachings as well, both in Western and in Eastern ascitaricism, is that there are three grantees. And one of them is beneath the sacral between the sacral and the root. And that is called the Vishnu grantee. And then there's another one that sits between the solar plexus and the heart chakra, the anahata, which is called the brahman grantee. And then the third is the last one you have to penetrate through and dissolve. Each of these knots have to be dissolved for you to move into these higher dimensional experiences. Moving from the ego into the heart is one of the transitions.

6:09The next transition is from the pineal gland to the butiotary gland. It's create the crown chakra. So this is the Shiva Shakti. So I was like, OK, that's interesting. And why is it called the Rudra? Well, Rudra is actually just the word for the sun god, Ra. Rudra is just red. So it's like root. The root chakra is red. Rudra. So Rudra is the name of Shiva before he crosses this boundary. And it's the portal to becoming no one. Now, what is that? It's total ego dissolution. It's walking into a place to remember that you're no one, just a character in a play. And because of that, you start realizing that you're also everyone. Because everyone has just projected around you as part of this illusion that you're basically playing out that you're living out. So this Rudra grantee is an energetic knot.

7:11And on the other side of the energetic knot, when you look back on it, you finally pass through it. You pass through the door of no one. And then you look back on the knot. And the knot then becomes the Shiva's knot or Shiva's grantee. Now, the universe itself is a grantee. It's a knot. It's a covenant. So it's this idea that we are the universe, not that we're perceiving the universe, but actually you're just perceiving the you inverse. And so breaking through that knot is also the realization fully of the first principle of hermetic wisdom, which is the universe is mental. The whole thing is mental. It's like a dream. So it was funny for me because the day that I came out of this on 4th of July here in the United States, of course, everyone was celebrating 4th of July. It was like a whole thing. And then I come out and immediately my friends that were with me in Bali were like, something's wrong with your Instagram account. And I go, what's wrong with my Instagram account? And I was like on vacation.

8:11So I'm like, I don't care about Instagram right now. And they're like, no, there's something wrong with it. It's like, I can't pull it up. And so I look up on it and all of a sudden, I get this notification saying, you've been banned. You've been deactivated on Instagram. And I was like, what the heck for? But something in me told me, don't worry, this is a matrix. And when it's supposed to come back, it will come back. But right now, you're passing through the door. We have no one. And in today's world, having an account on Instagram or being on social media is tantamount to having a name. To brand. It's your brand. It's your whole thing. So I kind of just like quietly, didn't really think about it. I was like, okay, well, I think this is like some sort of matrixy thing, whatever. All right, I'm just going to surrender to the universe. And I filled out the form online that basically says, okay, you have to appeal it. So I appealed it. I didn't have any citations or anything. I had nothing that I'd done.

9:11So for a month, it was like gone. And I had so many people coming to me. You can't believe how many people coming to me is like, you have to get your Instagram account back. And I was like, look, it's going to come back when it comes back. It's going to come back when it comes back. Well, then finally, you know, succumb to the pressure, peer pressure. And I reach out to someone I'm like, hey, do you know someone who can help me get this back? And I already had like 50 different people actually offer to help me get it back. So I started to call them up and say, okay, what do I have to do to get it back? They're like, well, since Meta fired all these people, right? There's like no humans that work there anymore. Pretty much, right? It's like, and I'm like, that's got to be an exaggeration. No, they fired the entire group that was oversight, had responsibility for oversight on top of the AIs. And we're basically just saying that you're getting kicked off of Instagram. So I'm like, okay. And 60 million people got kicked off of Instagram, that month in July. And everyone's like, what happened? There was some bug, right, with their AI. And the only way you could get back on

10:13is you would have to have someone internal to the company, you know, go through your case, figure it out, and it's not their job to do it because the entire department that was supposed to do that, all got fired during their layoffs. So now there came this new cottage industry of corruption, which is the former employees of Meta, now becoming entrepreneurial, you know, opportunist, decide, well, there's 60 million people that want to get in line. There's a business. There's a business to basically get them to the front of the line. Yeah. And so all of a sudden, I'm getting these outlandish, crazy requests for, okay, I charge $5,000 just to get you in the line, you know, I chart, and then it's 1,300 a month for an instant insurance and all this stuff. I was like, what? You've got to be kidding me. So I finally was like, I'm not going to play this game. I'm not going to play this game. And exactly one month later, I was at the Gaia conference in Colorado, and I was there with the CEO of Gaia and she says, oh, I can get your Instagram account back.

11:17And I kind of logged it, but I didn't think about it. And then, so the next day, it was actually that was the second of July, the second and third of August. And then on the fourth of August, I had this one lawsuit case that I had after I bought out all my shareholders. I bought out all my shareholders in 2023 of like, like almost 1,000 shareholders. And about eight of them decided not to do it. They were plastic surgeons. So kind of funny, we're talking about what we were talking about. And they thought they could get a better deal and by having a lawsuit, they could use that as a negotiation hinge or leverage point. And I've been at freshman with these people for a long time because they're the ones actually that I should be grateful for in some ways because they pushed me into my spiritual awakening. Yeah, that's right. Totally put me in my spiritual awakening. They sided with VCs, tried to get me removed. They were always like a thorn on my side. From there, I'd be like, I should never let them in.

12:18They were complete, just like, wow, people that you would not want to spend even 10 minutes of your time with. And so I sat through a deposition that day because I was getting deposed related to this. And all of this was covered in a, for me, it was like an insured case. So because my DNO insurance covered it. But and we had done nothing wrong, which they just didn't want to take the deal. And they didn't like the fact that everyone else did and they did okay with it. They did quite well with it. So it was quite funny because during the deposition, I was getting very much attacked by the other guy. But it was interesting because he was showing videos from like 2012 of me. I didn't recognize myself. I look like an entirely different person. My voice sounded like an entirely different voice. I'm like not even that guy, not even that guy. So it was such a weird feeling for me to see my life in review. It's kind of like, you know, you're going to the pearly gates after you die and St. Peter's there. It's like, okay, let's pull up the video of your life. And this is kind of what it was like.

13:19And I, for many years, harbored a lot of angst and frustration for these particular people, who put my life into hell. And but also liberated me in a weird sort of way. So, but I still had this bad feeling and I have been saying for a long time, this is now the age that every feeling that you ever had that you didn't allow yourself to feel. And every word that you needed to speak but you didn't allow yourself to speak must now be felt and spoken. That's right. And so I went to the bathroom during all of this and I came back and I'm like, I'm going to unleash. Now, in deposition, usually you're supposed to be like Fauci. You know, I plead the fifth, you don't really say much, right, you don't really say much at all. And this was a contingent law firm. It was a totally ridiculous ambulance chaser type of a deal. And I think lawyers that do this are like, literally whale shit. I mean, that's like the bottom of the ocean. But, okay, whatever. So I come back and the guys like being aggressive and aggro trying to break me.

14:20And I said, okay, you really want to know what happened here? I saved your clients from getting sued in a massive class action lawsuit by all the other shareholders who wanted to take them down because they blamed them for losing us about a billion dollars by their actions, what they did. I was able to salvage it and save it because that's what I did. I pulled a rabbit out of my backside. But the fact that they're still doing this and this is the way they operate, I'm like, you've definitely been bamboozled. I'm like, they're the ones who are literally to blame here. And I should be suing them. And in fact, I think I'm going to. It was interesting because the moment after I unleashed, I said everything that needed to be said. I said and felt every emotion that needed to be felt and expressed. I came out of that, I get a call, your Instagram's back. It's like a block in your throat chakra. The Instagram came back literally right after I expressed

15:21all of that because Gaia made a call for me that day and said, hey, we've got one of our talent that basically had lost their account for no reason. Can you please look into it and come to find out there was no reason why it got banned. There was no reason at all why it got banned. And the only thing, and then they'd said, oh, he didn't even appeal. I'm like, yes, I did. I have the screenshots of the appeal. So all of those appeals are just going in the ether. They're like, oh, well, you can't appeal there. You need to, can't be on the website. It has to be on this, can't be on the actual app. It has to be on the separate website because that's not working. I'm like, whoa, so meta's a total mess. And how often do we go through this? So I looked at all of that and I realized, wow, this is all about what I'm now experiencing on the inside is now being projected in my outer world. Yeah. I came back and I had to move houses. I had like eight storage units that I had to move into one house. And all I had three different lives

16:23that basically got merged into one place. It forced me to go through all my storage units, go through every one of my items, decide what was going to stay and what was going to go. Purging. It was a purge. And for the last several years through all of this, it's been 10 years since I had this big experience with these guys in 2016. And for me, that's when I really started going deep within and I started to go in this spiritual world. And if you've seen the movie, The Odyssey? No, not yet. Okay, you really should, because it's definitely the whole thesis of all the stuff that you do. And so The Odyssey Odysseus is this genius general who figures out, he's from Ithaca, figures out how to win the war against the Trojans. He basically builds the Trojan horse. It's deceptive. It's clever, right? It's clever. God's don't like it. And he also feels ashamed of it in a way. He feels like he pillaged it too much so he didn't take supplies for his boat home. So he had to stop at all these different port towns in order to get supplies to get all the way home.

17:24Well, then that's when all the craziness happens. Because he ends up meeting a cyclops and then one after another, it's like one calamity and disaster after another. And then finally comes home. He gets stuck for seven years on this island. He gets stuck on this island with Calypso, this woman, who keeps him captive there. She falls in love with him. And they're just the two of them on this island and she's giving him lotus flowers every day to eat because he wants to forget. He literally wants to forget. So he spent seven years there. It's 10 years before he gets home. It was 10 years of battle, 10 years. So 20 year total soldier. He comes home and he has to come back as a man of no one. Comes back as a beggar to his own kingdom. Finds his home overrun by suitors who were trying to marry his wife who wanted to take over his kingdom and become the new king of their land. And just like in the story of the Ramayana, where the bow of Shiva has to be strung by the new king,

18:25Rama, he takes the bow that he strung himself and he's the only one who could string it. And that was the challenge that she had given for all the suitors. If you could string the bow, shoot the arrow through the axes then you basically win and get the kingdom. And you get me. It was an hathaway. And so what does he do? He comes back as this beggar hiding. He's cloaked. He's the only one who could string the bow. Picks up the bow, fires the arrow, goes through the 12 axes, represent the aons hitting the target on the other side. And then he proceeds to clean house. And he's basically getting rid of all the things that were not serving. This is the story of the Odyssey. This is the story of the hero's journey. If you're feeling overwhelmed, disconnected, or just simply longing for more peace, presence, or intuition in your life, you're not alone. So many people are seeking something deeper, whether it's clarity, self-trust, or deeper sense of spiritual connection, but oftentimes the answers feel like they're out of reach.

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20:27So if you've been seeing lately, people have been talking about, oh, my next stage of spirituality is to go deeper into materiality. It's the grounding of bringing in a new earth. Yeah, but there's no separation. That there's no separation. That the world around you is actually you playing out. So every time I'm going through these boxes from all these storage facilities that I had, I'm looking at all the photographs, I'm reintegrating all the memories that I had literally put away in storage units. The same is Odysseus taking the lotus flowers to forget. But now it's time to remember. It's time to come back into the material world and to ground in the wisdom. And that's the elixir of life. And I want to highlight one of the things you said earlier with the lawsuit because part of that also being a projection of mind. And you were saying you could hold the complexity of being like, this is really challenging and it was a gift for me. And that you were using that as an opportunity to feel the things that weren't felt in the past

21:28or spoken in the past. And that I think is an incredibly powerful thing to not only give ourselves permission to and sometimes it's spoken to the person, sometimes it's spoken not to the person but just having it if people don't feel safe to share it with the person. But at least expressing it in our world, I think is helpful. Oh, absolutely. Did you see the, I've only seen two movies this summer, right? The only two movies I saw this summer and I haven't been to a movie in a summer since before COVID. So that's also interesting because when I lived in the material world, I was very much in the material world. I used to love to go to movies. It was like a hobby of mine because it was the way to escape. And then my life became so much like a movie. I'm like, this movie's better than going to a movie. So why am I going to movies anymore? So I stopped going to movie theaters. Who goes to movies theaters anymore? Like nobody. But for these two I did and one of them was disclosure. Uh huh. And one of the things I liked about disclosure was that it teaches this concept that the extraterrestrials believe that the highest form of ascension and consciousness for human beings or for any sentient being in the universe,

22:32is actually the ability to empathize. Its empathy is the highest form. And namely, being able to hold two opposing viewpoints in equilibrium without judging either one. Yeah, that's it. Which is exactly what you just articulated. And so it was also funny because this company set me these clothes and I've never done had an arrangement with companies because it was going to Burning Man next week. And this company I'd ordered some stuff and then they sent me some other stuff too. And I was like, oh, I've never had something like this happen. I guess I have a bunch of followers on Instagram maybe. And the name of the company was Maison Marvand. So I was like, what is it about this company that's kind of like calling to me? What is it it's calling about? Sorry, look up the name. Maison, it's a French company. So okay, Maison means house. And what's Marvand mean? So I look up the etymology of the word Marvand. And it's from Sanskrit.

23:33And Mar is from our word for Mars, which is war or warrior. And Vann is monk, warrior monk. Again, two opposing views, mashed into one word. Yeah. Which is one of the hermetic principles we'll get to. Which is one of the hermetic principles that we're gonna get to. And so this idea of having opposing viewpoints and being able to realize you can be, and it's funny because I was talking with one of my friends before coming here and she's like, oh yeah, one of my friends who used to be in the nun stage is now kind of going through her, for lack of a better term slut stage. And I was like, oh my gosh, okay. Pendulum's spung on the other side. Yeah. And so I asked her, I'm like, so what does this actually say about you? Because everything that's happening on the outside of you is just a projection of what's actually happening within you. Yeah. Yeah. And what are you more aligning to and what are you closing your eye to?

24:34These are the aspects of you. So if you can actually be, cause it seems like a monk should be someone who's all about peace. So as I took all my pieces out of my house and I put it all over my house, I have all these things that I accumulated over 57 years of like cool things from all over the world. It's like a museum of curiosities. Like you come into my house, it's like exactly as you would imagine it would be, it's probably that multiplied by some number factor. And it is like that, especially in my library. And so I have on one wall, I got an entire place, for example, I was putting it up and I was like, oh, one side I'm gonna put this really strong kind of like it's like a weapon from Bora Bora that I put up on the wall, okay, that's cool. But then the other side, I put up a peace pipe. It's this dichotomy just as you don't think of a warrior as being a monk. Which is everything I love. And one of the things that we'll dive into as one of the principles. So the second principle though, correspondence as within, so without, so as above, so below, like life is a mirror, can you talk to us a little bit more about this one?

25:35Because you're kind of weaving in some of the Hermetic Principles throughout your stories. Everything that we do, okay, I'll give you an example of this in the most scientific way I can. Okay, and I would also love to hear how that also reflects to the patterns we play out and project into the world. So I was looking at periodic elements. So this is all the elements you might remember, the Mendeleev chart from school. Hardly. Hardly, right? That's all the elements you've heard of a hydrogen. Yes. Right, you've heard of helium, right? Lithium, I really remember on all those carbon. And they all have a geometric state. So they're all geometric. So I'm interested in this stuff because I want to understand how do I make isotopes? How can I change? What's the underlying principle of the geometry that allows it to have closure? Because they take on different geometric shells, so those shells become the electron shells that then determine what we call valences in science. What, what, it's like a Lego that can only mix up with another type of Lego, right? That's what valence does. I started looking at it and I took this step,

26:36another step further and I looked at it from a spectral analysis perspective. So what's spectral analysis? So everything that is in this room has a certain reflection and absorption spectra. So the reflection could also be the same as the emission spectra. So you've got green as healing and human potential, right? So is it actually green or is it just the reflection or emission of green and it has an opposite color behind it that would be more like a red tone? Because that's its absorption. The absorption of green is red. So it's on the same concept of, and we'll get to this we're talking about polarity as well. Darkness, is it really the absence of light or is there an absorbed condition of light? Mm-hmm. And all my teachings have shown me that darkness is not the absence of light. It's the absorbed condition of light's reflection and we're just seeing the absorption spectra. So you can look at this rainbow-looking strip

27:36and then you say, okay, here are the certain lines of reflection that we're gonna see of carbon. And as we look blue line, there's a yellow line, there's a red line, there's a pink line and that combination together makes almost like a yellow sun. It's like a yellow sun, like a yellow orange sun. And so I started to look at that. I look at the absorption is all the other colors that are not reflected are the ones that are basically, those colors are absorbed, the ones that are reflected are the ones that are the opposites of the absorbed. So you look at a strip that's basically got, all these colors that are coming out at you, that's the reflection, and then those same colors are now black, right? When you're looking at the absorption spectra, right? So it's the opposite of it. So I started looking at this and I'm like, oh, this is interesting. So I made a spectral analysis chart on this thing called polymath calculated. I made this crazy calculator that I put into my AI platform. And then I looked at it and said, huh, that's interesting. Let me see, do the same thing for galaxies.

28:39So I started to look at the spectral analysis of every galaxy and I analyzed two trillion galaxies. And guess what? Every single one of them was one of the exact same spectral matches of the colors of each of the periodic table of elements. Mm-hmm. Yeah. The entire galaxy. So what I mean by this is when scientists look into outer space and they see the spectral lines of color, they know, oh, that's a pocket of helium or that's a pocket of hydrogen, right? Or this is whatever it is, right? It's brilliant or whatever. I did the exact same thing and found that there was no differentiable difference between galaxies and atoms in their color spectral analysis. Every single one. That means that there's a galaxy that we look at, I think it was M 101, that's actually hydrogen. It's a gigantic hydrogen atom. Now, this is exactly what Max Planck

29:40posited and Neal's born several others. And many said, oh, that cannot be, cannot be. But they said it was a solar system where galaxies like a miniature atom, right? Or it's a gigantic atom of the miniaturized atom. That's as above so below. Mm-hmm. So you have, as we live in this world, we're living the Milky Way galaxy, there's an Earth here, okay, great. Do we know about other planets? Maybe. But you have within you 70 trillion cells. The number of atoms that are basically making up those 70 trillion cells, which are basically tied to all the building blocks of DNA are carbon, right? It's hydrogen, it's nitrogen, it's oxygen, it's sulfur. So we've got phosphorus also. So when you start looking at this, you go, oh, wait a minute. If my body is full of the exact same substance that's what I'm looking at in my outer world, then I've got whole galaxies within me, probably trillions of them.

30:42And who takes out the garbage for them? You know, who's basically managing their world? It changes your perspective altogether when you start realizing, wait, what? In that context, all these people that are within me, there might be all these humans, there could be countless number of worlds that are populated within there. And they may be not managed well, they may be managed very well. I mean, what's going on? I mean, how can I be responsible for all of this? We are God. And as above, so below, the outer world is literally you seeing yourself on the inside, magnified to your outer experience. It's beautiful. It is beautiful. It is beautiful. It is beautiful. When you finally realize that you're like, well, I can't really complain about who can take out the garbage or waste manage it, services or whatever it is, right? They wouldn't take my boxes because I didn't cut them up. Yeah, but it also makes seeing different patterns that play out that we may be frustrated with,

31:42easier to change within us at the root because if it is being projected, if it's meered, it's like, oh, let me be with that within myself. Yes. It's much easier than trying to manipulate the outer quote unquote. And then it also helps you in this journey of self-realization and remembrance and non-judgment. Yeah, I've been watching that in some of your stories, the neutrality of holding it all with neutrality, like yes, and honoring the truth of the emotion, but not living out of it, not getting wrapped up. You know, it's funny because I think, even in the spiritual community, we get stuck in this whole idea of, it's 432 Hertz, is the healing frequency? No, it's 528 Hertz. No, it's Vedic astrology. No, it's tropical. You know, whatever, you could go through any list of things and what I'm going to say is that the great learning for us all now is everything is not either or it's yes and. Yeah, exactly. 432 and 528 Hertz are in the same scale

32:44of a 24 note scale instead of a 12 note scale. When you have a bigger picture, it's more inclusive, which also the principal speak to. So okay, I'm going to come back to the principal. So the third principal vibration, talk to us about this. Has it just been simplified by people saying, raise your vibration? Like what? Talk to us about this one. Vibration is that everything has this vibration and everything that has motion has time. But our understanding of what time is is very limited. You've got a tree behind you and I've been seeing trees all over the place. It's kind of funny because now I saw that the new Burning Man this year is going to be on top of the giant tree of life, which literally had been posting all this stuff on tree of life in the mathematics of it. So a tree gives us all the dimensional information we need. We've been mistaken in believing that there are more spatial dimensions. When there's actually just three dimensions of space and then three dimensions of motion and we call that motion and measure it time.

33:46So you could say in a way that number in itself is arithmetic, number in space is geometry, number in time is music, number in space time is cosmology, which is kind of beautiful too. So I started looking at the tree, okay? You've got an x-axis, the tree grows up but it also grows down, right? So as it grows up, the trunk of the tree has the numbers that are going to be the closest to it in divisibility. So that's what prime numbers are. Prime numbers can't be broken. You can't divide a prime number into a smaller part of integers, right? Not possible. So these numbers form branches and then the numbers that can be broken in a smaller one form break off branches and it creates this entire tree. So then you have this axis that's x-axis, the ground itself, the y-axis goes positive and negative in the root system. Then the branches grow out and it's about irreducibility

34:47and now you've got a z-axis as well that relates then to the depth of the third dimension. So you've got the depth of the tree and then you've got motion. So the wind comes and blows the tree and the tree will blow back and forth, back and forth. But then if you look closely at the leaves, the tree might be swaying this way but the leaves could be rustling all directions. That creates another order or another orthogonal position, right? That gives you another dimension. So the leaves are rustling and they're not a gimbal now. They're like turning all these different directions. That forms another dimension. So each one of these new dimensional motions. So the first dimension, x-axis, the y-axis is the second dimension. The third dimension becomes the z-axis, which is the depth dimension. And then within that you've got all the motion that's starting to happen. The tree swaying around all directions, but then within that it's even swaying again more. So it's kind of like in the fifth dimension, you're not only going like this along the z-axis, right, you're moving from one position to another,

35:48you're also spinning like this as you do the same thing. And then you add another rotational spin on that where it's now no longer this way, becomes this way, it becomes a sixth dimension. This is how dimensions are working. So all of this is actually relational to vibration. We think that we're only moving in one direction. We're not. Every single time we do something, there's a both the compressed form of it, which comes down to a right triangle geometry that then could be projected into higher dimension, which is including all of your motion, all of your movement. Everything is actually predetermined. I'll give you an example of how. If I start with a line like this, what else can I make from this line with no other information? I can make a square, right? Because if I know that a square has to have the geometry of a line like this, then I can say that the line up here is gonna be like this, it's gonna be like this, it's gonna be like this as well. All I need to do is just have one line

36:50and then I've got a square. And then not only that, but I can take that same thing, let's say I'm making my square like this. And now I just pop that one thing like this, becomes their dimension. And I've been traveling around this cube. I've been traveling around this cube for a long time, not realizing that the first line I created determined all of it. Hmm, hmm. What I'm saying is that your vibration and your emotional state is what is determining your experience. So for example, our brains are not hard drive storage units, they are antenna. And as antenna and a receiver that has a processor in it as well, the only way you could change your experience is by changing your vibration. Your heart is the tuning dial. So what radio station you're gonna tune into. So your vibration is gonna determine your entire experience, which was already set, you just didn't realize it. Hmm.

37:50Even every decision that you're making now was already known it was gonna be made because all dimensions of time exists simultaneously. It's based on the same principle of this one line, it was like this, and now I can project this up into a tester act into all different forms of geometry. Just from this one thing. So the point is that you control your outcomes, you control your experience by determining what your heart state is. If your emotional state is in a high vibrational state, you could have really bad news hits you and it just bounces off of you. Right, I'm rubber, you're a glue. Anything you say bounces off me and sticks to you. It's like nothing anyone says to you can bother you at all because your frequency is so high. You'll even perceive it that what they did was a great blessing for you. And then you could hold the two dichotomies into one origin point. And I think I love that we're bringing principle three into principle four, polarity, that it's not actually two opposite sides

38:51that it's one of the other side of the coin. Because for me, I only really learned, like if I were to hear that before doing some emotional mastery work, I would have been like, oh, I'm supposed to be happy all the time. I'm gonna track this into my life many, many years ago. And so I'm just speaking this if anyone hears it that way because actually in embracing something quote unquote bad, like unworthiness, it opened me to my worthiness. Or by embracing fear, I express stress, I experience more peace. And so by having the willingness to go there and to face and allow the feelings to the full expression of what was true for them, not having feelings at people, but to really allow them to be here. That's beautiful. Ironically, it opened me to the other side of the coin. I love what you just said. You said by experiencing them, embracing unworthiness, it opened me to my own worthiness. Yeah. And that is what life is. We're learning through opposites. This is the polarity aspect of it. If you're experiencing unworthiness, feelings of unworthiness and self-doubt all the time, right?

39:53You keep experiencing over and over and again. And then all of a sudden, some of your friends might even come in and tell you, you're not worthy, right? And they make you feel they, you know, they shame you somehow, some way. The right thing to do, because the universe is simply going to throw you the same thing over and over and over again, because you attract everything you judge till you no longer judge what you attracted. So the right thing to do is to actually embrace the thing that you're resisting the most. And to embrace it as a sensation, not a story, because the story is where we keep looping in our mind. But what does it feel like, somatically in the body present moment experience? No, sorry. This is one of the best embodiments of polarity that I can think of. Because the moment that you finally, for me, I've talked about this before, that I kept experiencing betrayal over and over and over again, because I judge so harshly the concept of betrayal. Mm-hmm. So what's betrayal? It's conditional love. I judge so harshly conditional love.

40:53And so the funny thing is, until the moment, if I came here to learn unconditional love, until the moment I finally learned how to accept that betrayal even exists, I haven't yet experienced unconditional love. Yeah. So then it comes to really redefining what we may judge or try to get rid of inside of ourselves and how we hold things so that we can get the gifts and the learnings from it without getting swallowed by the life experience. And your perception can flip polarity. Mm-hmm. So you can literally change your experience. We've all had experiences where we had the worst thing that ever happened to us. At the moment, we thought that was the worst thing that ever happened to us. Me having like eight freaking gigantic storage units full of boxes that I had to undo every single one was like hell because I didn't wanna go and spend the time. I mean, I got so many things going on in my mind. I'm like, how do I actually focus my attention to go through stuff that I've literally ditched 20 years ago? Well, you need to at some point. Yeah.

41:54You need to. So what I realized through all of this was that by experiencing the opposites, I can learn more about myself. It's the contrast that provides me the opportunity to hold both opposing views simultaneously without judging either one. And just say, this is my life experience and fall in love with it all. Yeah, my mantra had been, this is what life wants. Okay, this is what life wants. And I would say life is the real coach. Life is the teacher. Right? And so then it's, okay, there's clearly something in this for me, help me come into greater acceptance with it, not resist or judge it. Yes. And the other principle, the fifth one around rhythm, you know, that everything has its own cycle and expansion, contraction, inhale, exhale. It's got its own seasons and cycles. Talk to us about how we understand this principle. And specifically, because a lot of the time, I think people think of contraction as failure. And so having a new frame, mental frame on this, I think can support them in navigating

42:56some of those more challenging seasons in their lives. Yeah, you know, everything in higher dimension, my work all around it is about breath. So in the higher dimensions, fifth dimension and higher, geometry actually breathes. Geometry breathes. Same way. So a test or act has a breath cycle where it goes inward and then the out can basically expand or also contract. And it's like a breath cycle. It's a giant inhalation and an exhalation. Inhalation and exhalation. We could say our entire universe is expanding at the speed of light because it's basically at some arc within its inhalation process. And there might contract again, like a giant breath cycle. All of this is breath. Music even breathes. There's something called shimmer and music that I just recently discovered that opens up the entire overtone series of music. So you hear when someone was singing only a, with a choir, a choir will have microdiscinates

43:58when they sing a unison note. And then the people in the crowd will hear it and they'll get goose bumps. And they'll say, ooh, in French it's called the free zone, right, the free zone, the goose bumps. And what it is is you hear this, not only this unison of la, you hear, da da da da da da, la, la, you hear all the notes of the overtone series with the major chord coming out the strongest. And everyone's like, whoa, it sounds like this whole choir came in and started singing. Like angels came in singing, saying along with us, type of thing. And that is this opening up, right, of this experience. So you start realizing that it's through the microdiscinates, it's through the polarity. It's through the difference between the masculine, the feminine that the rub actually makes it wonderful. And then you can start looking at the experiences you had in the past and say, geez, that was the worst thing ever happened to me, but I look back on it now as the best thing

44:58that ever happened to me. And here's why, boom, boom, boom. You can transmute any experience. So someone who's truly in a, you know, and I don't profess, I believe I am literally just learning this language of the universe, the hermetic masters have left for us as well. But at the same time, I just feel like, I've said it before, I don't feel like a mathematician as much as I feel like I'm just a human being learning the language of the universe. And I, one thing I could say to you above and beyond everything else is exactly what Socrates had said and probably many people before him as well, which is the more I learn, the less I actually know. Because every time I'm learning, I'm just remembering another aspect. I think we're living in a movie that we think is playing forward because we've been taught that's playing forward, but actually it's playing backward. And everything we learn is actually what we already knew but forgot. So this is the world that I kind of see it as now. And I start realizing my experience is not actually

45:58as it was, it's what I believed it was. And as soon as I change my belief system on that, I can flip my vibration. I can also repolarize it to the different opposite direction and see it in an entirely new way and change history for myself. We do that collectively too. When I was a kid, we used to think Clistric Columbus was a hero. Now he's like, he's Welsh, that's right. But this is what I'm talking about is that we already change. We're doing Mandela effects on changing our past by changing our belief system and how we perceive that past. And that doesn't only happen when we have many years and benefit of history changing to do so. It's happening as a reflection of what's happening inside of you. It's beautiful and I love that you're grounding it so that we're not just conceptualizing but like the stories and how do we actually use this to apply in our lives. And so the six principal cause an effect that essentially every cause has an effect and every effect has a cause. Do you think that what people call fate or chance

46:59is actually just a cause that's been, is creating an effect that we're unconscious to? Yeah, I mean, that's that great chivalry in line, right? I believe that and I have even said before I believe that the words we use like coincidence when we experience some synchronicity we can say, oh, that's a coincidence. I don't believe in coincidences anymore. Yeah. Coincidences, a word that we use to describe a state of ignorance of a larger pattern that we haven't yet perceived. It doesn't mean it's not there. I also don't believe in the word randomness. Nothing is random. It's like when you see that the world around you is literally a projection of what's happening on the inside of you and the journey you're going through and it's individualized for every single one of us and it's like the most beautiful game and projection you could ever, ever imagine and it's a hell until you understand and it's actually a game and that there's a way to actually win this game and it's not that there's a win over something else it's to fall in love with all of it. Yeah, that's right.

47:59The entire experience, we're not going to escape Earth because we got out of the escape room called Earth. We're going to fall in love with it to the point that we transcend it. And I think unconsciously people get into spirituality as a way to opt out of the human negative emotions and yet I love the framework that you're coming from. It's very lined of just loving all of it, embracing all of it, muting it, not even to heal it or to fix it or trying to change it because there can be subtle agendas between like using some of the healing work to shift it, especially when you start learning that actually when I embrace, I can get free of that you go can slide in. And so what I'm hearing is I just want to highlight that this is more about building the capacity or noticing the capacity that already says yes to all of it even if the ego doesn't. Yes, exactly. And being able to recognize that this too shall pass and I can accept all of it. Even the nonacceptance? Even the nonacceptance. And actually this is a game of awareness.

49:00In the matrix of mind, in a mental universe, the only thing you really need to do in order to change your trajectory is become aware of it. It's all awareness. That triggers everything else. That's why geometry is a QR code for the subconscious mind. You look at the geometry and you're like, huh, that's kind of beautiful. I don't understand why I'm kind of transfixed looking at it. And now you see it in restaurants and lighting and everything, it's like become super popular, right? It's like it's a vibe. It's in. Geometry is cool now. And I never thought I used to laugh when people would say, oh yeah, it's sacred geometry. The first time I heard the word sacred geometry was probably like 1993 or something. And I was in Australia and people, oh, I was just in Sedona, mate. Look at all this sacred geometry. I'm like, I didn't say anything to the person, but I was like thinking, okay, it's cool. Geometry is cool, but what makes it sacred? Why is it sacred? And it took me a long time. And then now it's like all of a sudden, I'm known for sacred geometry. It's kind of hilarious, right? That's kind of funny paradox that we live through.

50:02It's because it is something that awakens you and takes your consciousness. It's like the background of your brain goes to a new URL address once it looks at that geometry. And somehow downloads the next evolution for you. That's what geometry is and that's what makes it sacred. I love your curiosity and that you just follow the threads of your aliveness and how it has woven so many different perspectives together. And so moving to the seven, the principle, gender, or yeah, gender, right? Yeah, so that there's feminine and masculine energy within everything. Talk to the hardest one by the way. I would love to hear about this. And beyond biological gender, how does integrating feminine and masculine within us support us? What becomes available because of that? Wow. It's so interesting because this is like a lifelong journey. It is definitely understanding gender and trying to understand that not everything needs to be understood.

51:03I mean, I was always upset at my mother for giving me conditional love. That became one of the thesis areas of my life. Yeah. That makes sense with the vitriol. And so my mother was the type who, and she still brags about it today. It's pretty funny. She's like, you became what you are because I gave you tough love. And I'm like, yeah, I mean, like the time that I got all A's and one A minus and you told me that next time if I got all A's and no A minuses, then she'd really love me. So this conditional versus unconditional love and every man I know seeks unconditional love. Interesting. And whenever you see a couple of the gets divorced, you ask them, why'd you get divorced? Believe me, don't listen to me on any relationship advice. I got you there. I'm not the one to talk to about this. But I do consider myself a student of life and I ask people, why'd you get divorced? And they get divorced.

52:04And I asked, you know, the man, what's the reason for the divorce? Oh, she changed so much. She used to go to football games with me. She used to have so much fun. She wanted to have sex all the time. It was like, you know, it was crazy. She was fit. She was in shape. You know, it was like she had a goal for her life. She wanted to go places and she wanted to do things and she was fun. She wanted to go out at night and she totally changed. She completely changed. She became this, you know, like mean woman. I would come home to and first thing she told me, I didn't take the garbage out. And it was no fun anymore. She didn't want to see the games. That was all far. So I thought it was this all fake. You know, the person I married, that's not what the contract I entered into was. So you go to the woman and say, why are you getting divorced? Because he never fucking changed. You can't, I thought he'd stop playing video games at some point. I thought he was going to finally grow up. He never grew up. He was doing the same things with his buddies on the weekends. And I'm like, when are you going to finally grow up?

53:06Because I married him because I thought he was going to change into the man I wanted to become. It's potential. And the man married the woman because he thought maybe she would never change. Not funny. Yeah. I think that this is somehow built into the system. Right? It's somehow built into the system so that we have this friction so we can find our own boundaries. Right? So we can know this is what it means to be a man. What's the one thing that Source Creator cannot experience without all of us? What does it need us to experience? He's omniscient, she, he, I don't consider it a man or a woman, both the entire universe has got to me. We are God. So what's the one thing that Source Creator can't experience without us? Limitation. You're omniscient, you're omnipotent, you're omnipresent. I don't have any limits. What's it like to have a limit? What's it like to ask a question

54:06without knowing the answer? What's it like to sit across with a lover that I've just started to engage with and wonder whether or not that feeling of level always be there? What's it like to experience jumping off a cliff without knowing what's going to happen? This experience is what we call life. And we become the mirrors just as I can't see itself without the aid of a mirror and a knife can't cut itself and a fire can't burn itself and a finger can't touch itself. Likewise, consciousness can't perceive itself without dividing itself into mirrors and it cannot experience limitation without division into mirrors. We are those mirrors of that experience. So I came to the conclusion, I was like, wow. Socrates also said, know thyself. The more I learn the less I know. So I know me, I am what I am, I am what I know I am. Okay, so then the outer world around me is I know what I don't know.

55:07And then there's a boundary that goes be even beyond that. See, I can't find my ass with both hands world which is the random world, the entropic world, right, the coincidence world. And that world we call randomness, we call it entropy, we call it, maybe the best description is I don't even know what I don't know. I don't know what I don't know. So how can I learn what I don't know? And maybe as mankind starts to learn more and more what it doesn't know, that is the breadth of the expansion of the cosmos. It's expanding at the speed of light as we are learning at the speed of light because the speed of light's actually the speed of our perception to that learning. So in that context, at some point people didn't know the difference between a diameter and a circumference was 3.1415926. That's pie. And then someone came along, Archimedes said, oh, it's 22 ever seven. Oh, and then someone else came along and said, oh, I have a more approximate way to do it. It's 355 over 113, that's the ratio.

56:10And each time we push the boundary going from only one or two digits of precision to three or four to five or six to 10 to 12 to infinite. Now we just have new ways of deriving pie that are computationally more efficient. And this is the expansion of consciousness. As consciousness goes and starts to learn more about what it didn't know, it starts realizing, okay, the more I learn, unless I actually know. But I'm always just pushing that boundary if I don't know what I don't know. And in that context, if we are all given the same admonition, which is to know thyself, the two most difficult words we were ever learned and ever integrate into our lives, then how is it different for God? Would I want to live if I'm God in a universe where I can't continue to learn? Because I already know everything. No, I would divide myself into myriad different mirrors to experience empathy for every possible circumstance

57:10that could ever exist, every single one. I would want to experience every single one so I could have love and empathy for that exact condition because I want to know myself. And I would create a grand play for every one of those mirrors to act out in different characters, some main characters, some lesser characters, whatever. I would have them all in their own play be the main character of their play. And I would have this grand play act out my own shadow integration, source creator, acting out a world, the world being mental, through polarity, through vibration, through all of these correspondence, through mentalism, gender, all of it acting out and playing out a role for the context of my own shadow integration. It's like a beautiful poem. It's like a beautiful poem, so is life. It's the most beautiful thing when we finally let go and realize that it's not easy for us to look at the world

58:14and say, oh, I see a guy who did this random act of kindness who was at the store who helped this old lady like cross the road and she almost fell down. And I think of my own grandmother, who I hit by a motorcycle crossing the road and she was like 90, 92 years old. And she didn't make shoes and great health too. And this random act of kindness, you can see as a beautiful person a beautiful personification embodiment of the divine. And I can go to Bryce Canyon or I can go to Zion's National Park and I can see the beauty of the divinity in all of that nature. But when I look in the mirror, can I see the divine in me? That is much harder. That is much, much harder. I can see it in people around me. I can see it momentarily. I don't believe in gurus and I definitely don't want to be that.

59:14But I can see the beauty in everyone else. But it's the moment that you can finally see the divinity within yourself. My favorite quote is from St. Francis of Assisi when he says, what you're looking for is what's looking, is what's doing the looking, what's piercing through your eyes right now. And I think oftentimes we look for something versus noticing the context of life, not the content of like what is looking. It's like that poem by our mutual friend, Adam, Adam Roa. Yeah. You are what you've been looking for. Yeah. And you have been all along. And it changes the context of your entire life experience. Then there's no more anger. But that doesn't mean you don't... Well, my experience is there's anger. Yeah. But it's just I, it's an I am not angry. I am not angry. It's like anger. That's not an I am angry. Anger's here. It's not an identity with it. You have to feel it. But then you start realizing there is no they. There really is no they. So who am I angry?

1:00:15When people say to me, well, what about the, I was in a podcast last week. They're like, well, what about the cabal? Like what about these people? I'm like, who's they? There is no they. Yeah. And not everyone is there and there are different stages of awareness. I think that are helpful. But yes, ultimately it's all back to us. The spiritual path is increasing degrees of non-judgment, expanding into love. So when someone says they're spiritual and they're more judgmental, it's like I love Brent Pellow. I was like one of my good friends. I really like him a lot. And I love his content because it's hilarious. I don't know if you follow him. He's hilarious. And he has all these videos and stuff where it's like parody on spirituality. Yeah. And it's like, oh, yo, bro, I did I wasca 22 times. You know, I did this, that, that, that, that, that. And you know, so funny because this whole concept of judging someone by how many times they've done I wasca

1:01:15or haven't done I wasca or. I mean, it's so innocent. It's like the subtle ways that the ego looks for relevance. And it's sweet. It's sweet. It's like looking at a kid. It's literally like, like, like, like, looking at my kids. As they grow up and learn, and my daughter's now going, she's, I have a 10 year old who's going into the stage of, you know, she's going to be a teenager soon. And she's going in that type of judgment. And, you know, mom doesn't make smart decisions and all this type of stuff. And I'm like, okay, well, one day, you know, like, from the time I was 15, I thought my parents were stupid. And then by the time I was 22, I was like, damn, they're pretty smart. And then by the time I was 30, they're like, I don't know. They had like a brain transplant. And they got super smart and became genius. And every year they after my parents became smarter and smarter. It's really beautiful to have just your open mind and your willingness to share. And also just to share some grounded principles. We didn't really get, it felt like our school, we missed the first day where there's orientation.

1:02:17I think that's the point. Here's the syllabus. It feels like this is a guide to try on to see how it fits for people. And there's a lot of wisdom in it. And I think a lot of people have accidentally found some of these principles and teachings. And I just love your heart and your willingness to share. And I know my audience is going to want to stay connected to what you're up to. Talk to us about what you're doing. Oh my gosh, so much stuff. I mean, I am about to launch a new educational paradigm called the Polymath Academy. Fun. Which is going to be a supplemental learning and a whole certification program and everything for it. Supplemental learning, no matter what level of education you are or what background you come from, if you figured out that this world right now is not really going to be for specialization anymore. Because it's really not. I mean, nowadays I had all these program or friends who were kind of scratching their heads going, what am I going to do now? Yeah. Because anyone can make a website like that fast. And so it's going to be how you operate in that paradigm

1:03:20of creativity, being able to work cross domain. So you're no longer going to be hyper specialized. You're going to become a Polymath. And that's what the Aquarian Renaissance is going to actually be about. So I'm hopeful that this is only one of many, many things that other people will do and espouse. And it's already happening. When I first started talking about Polymath, I don't know, probably 10 years ago now. Like, no one was really talking about it. And now all of a sudden it's becoming a thing. So I'm excited about launching this. And I think any kid who knows what this curriculum is going to have is like 250 courses are going to be in it. And it's going to be over a one year program. And anybody who could actually see all of this stuff, you would realize, oh my gosh, all the stuff that I didn't learn in school that I probably should have learned in school, that connects all of it and made all of it way easier to learn. So I'm better both in school and also my professional life. It's for all ages. And I'll be launching first program for 18 and above. And then I'll be launching one for 12 and above, which will be an apprentice program.

1:04:20Oh, how fun. That should be cool. Beautiful. And I'm excited for this. I feel like this is one of my life mission things. And I'm excited about helping people to expand their perspective so they can hold. So it's not just learning the knowledge. It's also learning the wisdom. And wisdom is knowing the difference. Yeah. And embodying it, there's the different levels of knowing. Knowing in our minds, our hearts, our guts, like a lived way of living. Yeah. And of course, I'm going on more trips. So I'm going to Antarctica in March, which is going to be an epic adventure. My trips are like super adventures. And then I'm doing another one in Mexico in October, so a month from now. And I'll also be going to Egypt in November, November 11th. And then I'm going to be in Egypt. This will be announced within the next weeks. So I can say it here for the big eclipse on August 2. We'll be in Camambo. OK. And I just have to say right now that on the way over here, I got some really sad news about Mount Kailash, which

1:05:23I don't know if you saw this morning. There was this terrible landslide that seems like it was precipitated by breaking off of a glacier. And it just wiped out the town that is the base of Kailash. And I'm very concerned for my friend, Matias Di Stefano. I texted him. He's staying there right now. And so I'm just, please have him. I mean, by the time people would see this, it's probably over by then. But please have him in their prayers. And also, I think he's with Mel and a few other people that we know. So I'm hopeful that everything's OK. I saw Sadguru announce that they'd lost a whole delegation of like 106 people or something. And they got swept away in this. And it's just super scary right now. And I love these people. And so obviously, I hope and pray that they're OK. But I also know that this universe is, there's no such thing as death. And so I also have that different perspective.

1:06:24But it doesn't take away the pain. Yeah, the grief. And we're here, by the way. I want to say one last thing. A lot of people mistake hermetic wisdom as being something that is not meant to be felt. In fact, that's just a completely incorrect reading of what it is. It is not spiritual bypassing from the standpoint of just saying, OK, well, it's all the matrix of what? I'm just going to do whatever I want. And I'm going to take a take and take and do this. No, that's not how it is at all. In fact, because of hermetic wisdom, you start realizing the hurt of anyone becomes your hurt. Yeah. And every situation needs to be felt. And you have to have absolute compassion and sincerity for that empathy. That's why we're here. To feel it all, the experience of life is literally the amalgamation of our feelings. Now, what hermetic wisdom does it helps you

1:07:26to shift your perspective. And when you start to change the way you see things, the thing you see an experience will change. And that's what is beautiful about it. But when we're in pain, we need to acknowledge that pain. That's right. That's right. When we're grieving, we need to acknowledge that grieving. When we don't, it accumulates within us. It creates anxiety. It creates tension and dis-ease in the body and actually just by presencing the raw, authentic truth of whatever is here. It moves. It just wants to be met, not gotten rid of. That's what I think this whole thing is about. I agree. All the hermetic principles are actually about authenticity. It's learning absolute radical authenticity and being at one with that. That's right. Holding the opposing views within yourself, because even if you don't see the opposing views of yourself because you have an eye that's closed, everyone else does. And this is when the left eye of Horus awakens through the wisdom of Thoth, the magic of Thoth. It's also the eye of Shiva.

1:08:27The eye of Shiva is not the left eye of Horus. It's the third eye. And that's when you pierce through the Rudra grantee, when you dissolve it. And you see on the other side, the eye of Shiva. And it brings into balance the masculine and feminine that we actually fall in love with the golden asymmetry of it all. That it is through the differences, that creates the friction that makes it so. It's the asymmetry that makes it beautiful. Mm-hmm. It's so poetic and beautiful, Robert. Thank you for who you are. Thank you for how you moved to the world. It's so good to be with you. Yeah. Thank you so much for doing this work that changes the world starting with yourself. It truly does make a difference. And if this podcast has supported you, one of the most impactful ways to help us reach more people is to simply press the follow button. It really does help us grow and we are so grateful. I just want to say thank you for being a living example of what it means to walk through the world with an open heart of mind.

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