Ted Lasso Season 4 Part 1 Recap | The Tastemakers

0:00Hello, everybody. And welcome back to the Tastemakers, the podcast where we help curate your TV and movie watch list. My name is Grayson. Today we are chatting Ted Lasso season four, the first half. And I'm excited. I am joined by my fellow coach. We're not in Kansas anymore. Oh, and how are you doing? I mean, you know, I'm just downing the barbecue sauce right here because of all the excitement. I mean, we're not in Kansas anymore. I've never been to Kansas. I don't think I've also never been to Kansas, but I'm watching it. A lot of times. Yeah, fair, fair. Um, all right. Ted Lasso season four. I'm very excited. It's been on for like five weeks, you know, it's like been on television, but we are doing a check in now. And we will do a check in at the end of the season. This is a show. I, um, I feel like I get defensive about this show. Owen because I feel like people loved season one. And then slowly people are like, Hey, that's not what this show it. They were like a little. I feel like they.

1:05They got angry about the show. And what I hate because I feel like the show I always called season one like the hug you didn't know you needed. And I'm like, stop picking on my, my, my lovely warm fuzzy show. Um, even though I think that the show is not like it's not only jokes. It's not only humor. It can get very serious. Um, where I feel like we like leave off at the end of the first half of the show is like in a kind of semi serious, you know, spot. But we were talking about it. And you kind of had this like similar thing of like I just loved Ted Lasso. Uh, the, I mean, you can love the, the character to Lasso as well. But I believe you're referring to the show as well. Yeah, I'm with you there. I also get very defensive about the show. Like I think that there's a special kind of turning on a TV show that happens in the TV show is also really nice. People get weird about it. It's sort of a bit of a frustration of mine. Um, so this is just going to be a Ted Lasso love fest. So hopefully if you're here, that's what you want because I just have lovely things to say about the show.

2:12Well, the other thing I think that like peak by interest about your interest in the last so is that sometimes I'm like, ooh, you should watch this show. And you're like, I don't watch TV. I don't even watch good TV. I watch movies and bad reality TV. Not bad reality. By watch TV movies and reality TV is like, but you're watching Ted Lasso. So there's actually a great point. Grace. Um, so, uh, for the, you know, most people don't know me. Uh, I don't watch TV broadly speaking. Now that is a wildly inaccurate statement, but I sort of stand by it. I watch my reality shows. I'm a big survivor guy. You know, I love amazing race. The traders. What have you? Um, I tend not to watch a lot of TV. No, I'm a movie guy. I watch a ridiculous number of movies every year. The one big exception for me, other than reality TV is I love sitcoms. I'm a huge sitcom guy. I was raised on NBC, must see Thursdays. Uh, you know, I did. I did my ABC family shows when I was a kid. Uh, and where I think Ted Lasso is really special in the age of the procedure comedy.

3:22You know, I feel like we've been either forgotten sitcoms and instead we get the bear and only murders in the building and hacks. Two of those three air shows I deeply love, but I don't see them as sitcoms in the same way. Uh, to me, a crucial part of the sitcom is it's a show where you get to go and hang out with your friends. Uh, and the reason I immediately started watching Ted Lasso back. I don't know if you remember Grace before episode one air people were making fun of it. They were like, if you know based on the commercial. Yeah. And I was like, no, y'all Bill Lawrence is the real deal. Yeah. So Lawrence is someone that I love. I grew up on spin city. I was obsessed with scrubs. Uh, and he loves sitcoms. He loves traditional sitcoms. He made laugh track sitcoms when people were done with that because of how much he loves the live studio audience format. There's a whole episode of scrubs about how magical sitcoms are and they specifically talk about hanging out with your friends.

4:28And Ted Lasso is a prestige sitcom. It has 40 minutes episodes. It's a prestige sitcom. Yes. But I feel like it hits that hang out with your friends, five in a way that shows like hacks and only murders in the building and the bear, which is debatably not even a comedy, uh, in a way that those shows don't. And that's why I love it. And that's why I'm watching it. Even though I am, you know, have that reputation of being the guy that doesn't watch TV amongst my friends. I think the only one I would actually be like an agree is that the bear is definitely like not a comedy. And we can talk about that. And let's say the other two, I'm like a little more like forgiving of, especially only murders and not that I don't like. Lonnie's well-boss. Yeah, fair. Um, I think they're kind of in the Ted Lasso mold, but you, uh, I think that's worth debating. Maybe that's something we do offline. Um, yeah, I feel like Ted Lasso has that sitcom DNA in a way that very few other perceived sitcoms do. Um, okay, the other talking point of Ted Lasso is like, should it have come back?

5:31And yeah, obviously. Okay. So I'm going to talk a little bit here. Um, my partner, what's up with my love of sitcoms? They tolerate me having episodes of like Parks and Reckon or Community or whatever all the time. Who are down? Some of the Lawrence Dan. Uh, and Ted Lasso is one of the only shows that she will actually like sit down and watch with me very excitedly. Almost any other show she says like, uh, I'm thinking about tonight. Ted Lasso every time, do I want to have some Yes, immediately. And I really remember watching the season three finale and they have that little tease about the women's team. And my partner was like, will they need to do season four now, right? She was so excited about that. And you know, obviously there's people that love when things wrap up. I'm often one of them.

6:32Tax is one of my favorite shows of the last 10 years. I'm glad it ended where it did. But Ted, so it did feel like there was unfinished business. It felt like this is the story they need to tell. We just did three seasons all about men. Let's do one about the women's team. It's, you know, it feels, uh, I, I, I, one of my favorite ongoing gags of this season of Ted Lasso. If the way they always go like, what we're doing here is important, right? And then they're like, yeah, no, come on. But actually, yes. And I think it's such a funny, recurring gag. And that's kind of five of the season for me. It is important. But isn't it silly? That's important. But it's kind of important. Yeah, I think that for me, when I was feeling at the end of season three was, I like basically everything. I have like a couple of, of like minor complaints about, about like later seasons of Ted Lasso that I think are not the same complaints that other people have. But fundamentally, I do think they like nailed the Ted story and show us called Ted Lasso. And so I was worried.

7:39I think if it came back that it would like up in the Apple card on like what was, I guess the metaphor is bad, but a nice Apple card. And how do you like them, apples, I guess? And I liked them. I liked the apples. I loved them very much. Yes. And so I was not like nervous. I do the idea that we were going to do a women's team instead of the men's team. I was like, very excited for that. I have been seeing some critique of season four of being like, I want more of the team. And I want less of like Keely and maybe even Rebecca stuff in there. But like to me, this is kind of what the show is. And I would agree that probably we could do more with the the women's team. But I do think the stuff that we're getting about the team, maybe not so much like them being there. I feel the directory is a fair bit. Like we got, you know, we'll get into it.

8:40But I do think there's enough there. I just feel like I think we'll start to get into spoilers here. Which I thought was, are they going to like mess up the basically the progress had made to not have like to sort of figure out what how to be happy in his life. And as we get into spoilers, I feel like they did that very well. The end of the first episode. This was not a, oh, I'm leaving again. It was, will you all come with me? And they're, she's in a place. His wife that she's going to say, yes. And so we go. And I even feel like in the five episodes we've gotten so far, Ted's story so far is actually like it's actually his story with Coach Alice more than actually, like we're not really doing. I guess there, oh no, I guess that's not true. There is the like, am I ready to date again? Bit that we get at the end of this episode that we can talk about where we think that's I have a smidgen of an idea of where I might be going there. But I think that this is like, this has been good.

9:47And any concerns I had about why it might be shouldn't come back. I think it's been alleviated for me. Yeah, like so I do want to start back to seeing later because I think that's a really, really interesting conversation to have. Let's talk about Ted. This show is called Ted Lasso as you as he said. So yeah, I think what they've done really well is it didn't feel like a soft reboot of Ted's story. It felt like a continuation of that story. You know, and it's so funny. I remember when the first word that Ted Lasso was coming back happened, like one of the first pieces of information he got was the recasting Henry, the recasting Ted's song. And I think that was so smart because obviously the big concern is going to be like, wait, so they just are going to undo the thing at the end of season three. So I sang, hey, Henry's coming back. That was a little bit of like it's okay, everybody. Like we're not going to forget all the progress we made. We're not going to forget the things had learned. And I think what I love about what they've done with Ted in the first five

10:50episodes. And especially episode five is great. We're talking about it right now. It's clear that that progress is continuing, not getting reset. I think of the moment of, you know, these separatist spoilers here of Ted suspending Alice for being, you know, a being spirited coach. Yeah. And he's specifically checking off Nathan when he talks about that. You know, they don't name check him. They just say, I knew a guy, but them saying him saying, I mishandle that situation. And I want to do better now is clear that this is a growth for Ted. You know, I without, you know, getting too far into it, I relate so deeply to Ted, so so deeply to Ted. And it's something I struggle with is being mean when I need to be mean. It's a really, really, really big line spot for me. And so seeing Ted do that was so motivational for me, so inspirational for me where I said, good for you, Ted, you did what needed to be done. And that makes me think, well,

11:51then I should be able to do the same myself. And it's part why I love this show. It does give us these motivations to be better. And I think that no progress was on that for Ted to my opinion. Yeah. I also relate very heavily to Ted. We had a discussion, I think, on the, I think maybe the first episode had come out of the season. I think we were driving back from a movie. We were talking about like, I think I, I, I, and reflecting on I think there's this idea of like what Ted was dealing with, which I think you've pointed out is like he has anxiety, which I was always like in my head, I was relating more to the depression side of thing. But I think it's like just more anxiety than anything. But I do relate to like the person who's dealing with a thing and tries to be funny and like put on a face and not show anybody that they're dealing with anything. That's like a very relatable thing for me from Ted. And yeah, but this storyline, which I think we could kind of talk

12:53about, there's the Ted piece that's basically by the end of that fifth episode, he get when he's giving the halftime speech and he's talking about like, you know, maybe I come off like I'm a lonely guy and like, like, I'm not, but also like I do want to date again. Like there's that piece. I think we're probably going to see him revisit the stage manager. I feel like the stage manager was seeing. Stays. Sure was fun. I really, really liked his negracy. No, I'm a theater kid. Yeah, I really liked what he called her the theater coach. I thought that was so charming. Just also, and this is in the line of like the men who admit that they don't know things that which is like, I guess you already have a name for that, you know? I feel like I feel like we will see her again. And she is like a potential, if not love interest, at least going on a date with that. I imagine it's a thing we will see. So I mean, I want to shout out, but 10 last shows of the show in general. Is I love their many, many, many what ifs in terms of dating? Like I always really love

13:54for Roy with a CD's teacher. I thought they were so charming together. I love I like Ted and Sassy. I think they're wonderful. Yeah. Hey, if Sassy came back, I would not complain. You know, and a stage manager, whether she ends up being another one of those what ifs or something that something happens with either way I'm here for it. Yeah. So he, he we get that by the end of the survivor. I think we'll explore more in the back half. But yeah, the stuff with Coach Alice, do you I think the point you made is the thing that I was thinking about, which in my head I was thinking is this too close to Nate? But I think Alice is very different than Nate in the sense that they might they might have similar behaviors. But so much of what I think Alice's journey is about is I mean, you said what ifs it really is I think there is some anger about never being able because of an injury to like become the athlete that she shot she would be.

14:55And I think that her motivation for and her lashing out is is you know, all parts like jealousy, like, you know, a little bit of like if only you would just work harder than you would do like, like, I don't even is it entitlement what's the word for basically? Like, I never got this opportunity, you need to not waste and squander this opportunity. And it actually has to be not fun for you because it's not fun for me to be on the sidelines coach like not that it's not fun. But like, you know what I mean? Like, I never got to be doing what you are then going to do. And I need to make sure that you know and are aware of that fact all the time. I don't even know how to articulate the emotion. I thought it was like hustle culture to be honest a little bit of that. And what I find so interesting about Alice and I freaking love Alice. I think she's incredible. I think that she's the thing for me that has taken season four from good to great. I think she's so engaging. And, you know, I love her as a counterpoint to Nathan,

16:02because Nathan is a character whose, you know, difficulty was so rooted in toxic masculinity. It's specifically nice guy talks with masculinity. Now Alice is not a man, you know, but at the same time, I do think a lot of Alice's problems are also kind of toxic masculinity in a lot of ways. And the pressures that we put on women to be like these alpha males we see. And seeing how those features that are similar to Nathan's are affecting a woman is a fascinating thing to see. It's a little bit like the patriarchy screws us all kind of. And I love the way that they're exploring that. These ideas of, you know, just like Nathan, she has self-loathing. She has jealousy. But they exhibit in a very different way due to the fact that Nathan was a man, Alice is a woman. And I think that's fascinating. Yeah, queer woman too. I think so. I, right, we've been, that's been different, right? Is that on the side? Maybe I missed that.

17:03But maybe I'm just making assumptions. Hey, you know, I was right about pulling back in the day. So, yeah, I really like Tony Reynolds as as Coach Alice. I most know her from sex education. She was also in the other Bennett sister earlier this year as well, which is kind of big year for Tony Reynolds. Yeah, I really like, I really like Coach Alice. I like her relationship with Gemma, like our new striker. I think that's very fun. I really adored the library scene where they go to recruit her. And they have to basically be like whispering to each other. They're just like very funny to do. I mean, that's I think the balance of the show, which is that this is kind of like, this is the scene in which we reveal that basically like Alice was very hard on Gemma as a coach. And we're doing it in a library where we have to be whispering. It's very, very funny and charming. It really like, it really like Coach Alice. Can we talk about the team a little bit? Let's do it.

18:05I want to start with just a point you made and then kind of work back. You were like, I don't know if I grew that, which is like, are we not getting enough of the team? I'm not saying, I'm saying that is the feedback I am hearing in the world. Okay. Thank you for the correction. So here's my thing about that feedback. I think that is feedback based on season for Bury of Ted Lasso. If you look at season one of Ted Lasso, you don't get that much of the team originally. You know, we got a little bit of like, Jayny, bullying Nathan here and there, Isaac and Colin were kind of like, you know, Tariya Maun or whatever and joining into the bullying. But we didn't get a ton. We got a little nuggets and I would actually argue that we're getting more of the women's team in seasons four of Ted Lasso than we got to the men's team in season one. And I think that's generous. I think that's great. I think I would argue that other than Jamie and I think if Jamie and Roy are like in terms of

19:11visibility on the show or like a nine out of ten in season one, I think that everybody else is like a three out of 10. And I feel like in like maybe everybody is more at like a six out of not everybody, but I think that's what I probably the way I think between Jemma, Lizzie, the mom who joins at the tryouts, boots, and then the hurricane sisters. Those feel like are like core team members. And I do. Right. Right. Those feel like people that we know their personality, but maybe aren't doing other than Jemma, I would say, and then a little bit of Lizzie, where Lizzie's the story is like, she brought her kid, which I imagine we will follow up on. Like I kind of thought when Alice is like, okay, tryouts or like training is tomorrow. Can't bring your kid that we maybe would get. So I guess Shannon is the other person who's like kind of getting.

20:14Again, I think it's like, but you know, I think again, like the hub quiz night is like second episode. Like there's so much of the women. I don't know. I think that kind of in my, I mean, I'm not feeling like we're getting, but I'm also, I trust the show, I guess. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Like we don't have any characters on the women's team that are on the level of a royal in Jamie and season one of that last. So that's a very, very fair response. But yeah, other than that point, I think getting more of, yeah, the average I think is maybe a little bit higher, even if we don't have any nine out of 10 level characters on the team. And that is sort of where we brought in Alice for that purpose is like she's the new character is like a main main character. Yeah, I would say once we follow a character not like in the locker room on the pitch, I'm like, I feel like like we've done almost like none of that, I think with with any of the of the women team players. We're pointing out and their small characters so far,

21:18but the two women that are dating each other got the opening scene about so five. Okay, right? Okay. So like there is, there is that, but you're right. I still think your point stands. So like we're not spending a lot of time with them in which again, other than Jamie and Roy was true of everyone else in season one as well. We didn't get any scenes of like Colin in his home life or Isaac in his home life in season one. I think we can talk about the team interest and also a little bit into the like the sort of Keeley Rebecca overlapping sort of basically like we're trying to get a women's team off the ground. And there's a scene at the end of the last episode where Keeley apologizes because it's half empty. Yeah. And boots, I think it's boots says like what are you talking about? That's the most people we've ever played in front of. And she said so much. She says, my favorite line, maybe of the first there's one other like little ted ism that I really loved. It stuck with me, but I really loved tell the voices in your head to shut the fuck up.

22:19Was like so good. I love that. I tell you that like I teared out with that line. I just like Oh yeah, it's so good. And so this this yeah, I've already joined the boots fan club. By the way, love boots. Oh my god. What an icon. No gloves boots. Her being naked also as well. When coach Alice comes back and is like, why are you in here? It was very good. I yeah, this this storyline stuff is like I think really working for me. And I could see where people think it's like a very heavy handed, but I don't know. This is the real of like this women's league where like the sponsorships are pulling out because they think it's like not going to be helpful to them. People are the same people who say they love football and they love sports. We'll go to the men's game and won't go to the women's game. I love the the the bros and the pub being like we probably should have gone to the game, huh? They switched of Rebecca doing the drunken announcement and everyone's like, oh no. And it's time to rules. Where are you? Is very good. I'm liking

23:22so I'm liking Zelda's out for I think like her or speech at the thing. I'm taking a Zelda for a second. Yes, please. Yeah, I'm talking to this. She's the one aspect in the season that I'm not totally sure is working for me. And I want to explore why that is. And then maybe why I need to chill and so do you give it some more time. So it takes the all month plays Zelda's fun for legend. Absolutely. Yes. The character has really unhinged hair and stands out in every scene she's in an interesting way. So Grace, I believe you you're a community fan back in the day, right? Yes. Okay, there's an episode of community when basically Jack Black shows up as as a random character that wants to join the group. Yeah. And the idea is that this new character is completely disrupting the group. But also Jack Black is a presence from a meta-textual level is disrupting the flow of comedy of community in a really interesting way. Right. And it's such a funny episode.

24:24I love that bit. The idea that's like the guest star is disrupting the flow and we're going to make that a thing. Tracy Almond almost feels like she's on a different wavelength from the show for me. And I don't know if that's just because I have not seen Tracy Almond at a really long time. And I'm just like not really figuring it out yet. I like the story possibilities of what if a mentor who's not quite right. I think that's a fun idea. But I, I, everything just feels a little bit off in those scenes to me. I can't end down why that feels that way for me. My feeling is that I think that that's probably intentional. And my feeling is that Zelda, I think, is going to be night. The thing I'm waiting for is the moment in which Zelda, Kels Rebecca to do something that Keely disagrees with because Zelda is fully on Keely. It's fully on team Zelda of like Zelda can do no wrong. But you'll notice that like when they

25:24like Keely leaves and then it's Zelda stays with Rebecca. And I think Rebecca is like learning from to, but there's going to be a point where I think Zelda's probably going to be like, yeah, like I, even the world where it's like I could see like this may be the most extreme version. But it's like, maybe you should consider it like maybe you should actually stop the team. Like, maybe you should, maybe it hasn't worked and go do something else. And Keely being like, what are you talking about? You know, like, yeah, like that sort of, because I do think Zelda's supposed to be a bit of a disruptor, but she's also like, she's super rich and like, like, I think we're supposed to be, I think to her being so different is supposed to be intentional. So I think I see her going like, I like the idea that it's a five and we're talking a lot about episode five A because it's both reason one B because it freaking ruled. There was a lot of plot points definitely too. It was so good. Yeah. So like the idea that Zelda gave Rebecca objectively bad advice, get drunk before you after this presentation at halftime,

26:27and get it turned out okay. So presumably Rebecca will probably take more bad advice from Zelda and then eventually go horribly. That's sort of what I imagine is happening there. Yeah, or just advice that's antithetical to what Keely thinks. You're right. It doesn't have to be bad advice. Yeah, I hope that we get to know Zelda a little better. I think maybe that's where my biggest sticking point is is like, I don't think I understand her yet, but that's probably coming. I'm sure that's going to come down the road. We'll get a little bit more of a deep dive into who she is as a person. In this world, actually, by favorite, like, and I know she was in season three as well, but like basically, new-ish character is definitely Barbara. I'm a tremendous fan. Oh, and I just got you. I'm hoping you're addicted now to Taskmaster Katie Wicks plays Barbara and Katie Wicks is in a season of Taskmaster. She's one of those people who I didn't know before I saw her in Taskmaster and fell in love with her. She is she is delightful. I love weird Barbara being like like and and sort of when I think it was like,

27:28oh, maybe it's just because traffic's bad. None of us are just like, I came early. It actually was there was actually no traffic. And I was like, oh, yes, I did forget my book in the bathroom. I will show you right back. I really love Barbara. I'm a big Barbara fan. I also love Barbara in season three. I think she's great. And speaking of people coming back, we got a little bit of Trent Cram, a little bit of we got a little bit of Sheriff Fieldstone. Both characters that we really like. I especially love those two. I go say they felt a little bit shoehorn, it was like the podcast right now. But I just forgive it for that month. Trent Cram is my podcast guest next next week. So don't worry about that. What a nice share in real time. I know a little like yeah, I agree that I feel like I would have loved to see them interact with other people, but whatever I'll take whatever Trent Cram and Sheriff Fieldstone I can get. You know what I don't mind the like we're telling a story from Sharon's book that's then going to translate into the story of the episode that we're watching. That

28:28was the one all about the clicks. Yeah, it was it was the very cool episode. We talked a lot about episode five. So I want to talk about just going back a little bit is there's a scene in episode one. I talked earlier about how much I love the whole vibe of season four being like what we're doing is important. No, that's silly, but maybe it actually is. I love episode one when Higgins visits the Negro League baseball museum. Yeah, and to show so clearly wants the audience to draw that parallel of the sports from people who don't get to do things like that. Yeah, then Higgins says it's a little bit like what we're doing here and to the two of us are kind of like no, it's not at all, which was perfect. I believe I've seen that Ted Lasso helped drive traffic to the Negro League's museum. So I think that that's a thing that was like Google Analytics or an ever showing that like searches for the Negro League museum. Yeah, I was actually at the Bobblehead museum in Milwaukee and they have a recreation of the statue area where that they filmed

29:31the scene and I was telling the curator of the museum was talking to me or that someone at the museum working there was talking to me about the miniature Bobblehead version of that thing and I was like, did you know that they did a scene and Ted Lasso filmed and that it's just like I didn't know I'm gonna go look it up. So super, super fun. Yeah, the first episode like I think like I think there's a world where you're like just let me get back into it but actually going and being in Kansas for an episode to eventually get back I thought was like a really smart choice and actually was quite effective even if it's a lot of things to know the team. I think that it's one of Ted Lasso's strengths. There's a willing to give the audience the thing that they don't think they want. You know, we talked a lot about how, you know, season three some people are a little bit hard on it and a complaint I've heard about it is we didn't get enough of Ted's story in season three and I fundamentally disagree with that criticism. I think season three tells Ted's story through the people he's helped. Yeah, but that was something the audience thought they didn't want

30:34and here a whole episode to get back I'm sure it probably annoyed some people but I think it was a really valuable exercise in making sure that they don't undo his character work showing that he doesn't just jump at the opportunity and it actually takes his mom and his wife and his son. Sorry, that's why. And his son to push him to go back is really important. Okay, speaking of, and I don't know that I agree with this but undoing work which is I think maybe some people's biggest complaint is I think people are overroying Keely. How are you feeling about the Roin Keely of season four? So that's one I'll play around with that idea. So I mentioned earlier I'm a big scrub guy. I grew up with scrubs. I love it so much. And there was a moment in the final season of, oh god, let's say the final season of scrubs is so confusing. The final season of a race of love that secret extra little season. It's fine. Yeah, the last season of original whatever

31:40scrubs you want to call it. There's a moment when JD and Elliott who have gone together and broken up and gotten together and broken up many times. And they basically just like, yeah, we're back together and deal with it. And they sort of say it to the other people in the hospital and then it actually leads to the audience. And I thought that was really charming. Just like, you know what? This is the way the stories go. In terms of Roin and Keely, I do feel like there is the actual unfinished business there. And I have a very dear friend, Grace or friend Megan, who you are also friends with. And we talk a lot about how Roin's issue with Keely is that he's too obsessed with her. He just puts so much on her that she cannot possibly live up to her to it and is smothering. And the fact that the show understood what the main issue was makes me feel a lot better about it. You know, nothing I get more than when it feels like a couple isn't working in a show doesn't know why. And I'm disconnected from the show's reason. Here it's like, okay, no, they get it. They get the actual issue. And well, my solution was that Keely and Jamie and

32:43Roin should just be in a throttle. I think that's a really good way to solve that problem. Keely's solution of having him go on 10 days is also a really good one. So no, I don't think I'm over it because I think that they're playing fair with what their relationship actually is. I feel like I was a little bit of I never really understood why they didn't get them to be together at the end of the show. So I'm fine with them getting them like seemingly. I mean, I'll be a little annoyed if they don't get together, I think. But the part of me that's just a bit of a sicko is kind of rooting for that. Just like, yeah, it feels like they always should have been together. And I feel like the show sort of like I think almost like not in counterpoint to what you're saying. But there's this world where I think the show, I think that like the story that they tell for Roin Keely would have worked if I didn't think Roin Keely actually should just be together. Just say, do you know that like maybe you're not the perfect match for somebody and you have to figure out how to like move on in your lives or entertain or intertwine in some way, not because

33:46you have kids or whatever, because of all of these different reasons that they could have been good. Except I think Roin Keely are like a fun couple who should be together. So, you know, I, you know, the 10-day, I thought it was very funny that Roy tries to like speedrun 10 days so that that was that was funny and that ends up with the bartender. Yeah, I'm good with it. I think, you know, we'll see where it goes. But so far, I'm fine with moving them back towards each other. I think what I really like about the relationship is the physical chemistry they have together. And by that, they're not, they're not touching each other this season, but they just look at each other like they want to jump each other's bones all the time. And I think that is so hot and so fun. And I really, really appreciate what actors actually have chemistry together. I think that it's unfortunately more bear than I'd like, especially in this era of, you know, mayorshows shouldn't be so sexy. So to have actors that just look like they really, really, really want a bone makes me still

34:51happy. Another couple that I actually have been enjoying the content from them, the season, which is the Rebecca and Matias story, which is we've been long distance and you seemingly want us to be closer together. And I don't know if I'm ready for that. I paired with I'm a very important businesswoman who's very busy. I do like it. I do feel like I know, again, I know this thing of like people would rather spend more time with the team than maybe with like a Rebecca relationship story. But I like this. I liked the reveal that I don't know. I guess I'm choosing to believe him that he sort of like was, I guess like not telling the whole truth to his daughter. So that his daughter wouldn't be mad at him for like this whole thing of like, why are we moving to London?

35:53And then him being mad that he like prodded, I think is maybe like a little unfair. But mostly I really like this story because I think it's very complicated, I think. So I'm a big sucker for stories that reveal that there's a lot more going on than we thought. And the the win-n-n-no episode of season three is one of my all-time favorite headlasts episodes. And Matias is a big part of why. And I don't just mean because he's super hot, although he is. But just like he has so much warped in that performance. And the way he just sort of presented himself as the perfect guy was so charming. He's exactly where Becca needed. But then we have to point two of that story, which is one I love, which is yeah, but it's not that simple, dude. Like, yeah, you know, it's wonderful when she falls into his boat to the sexy, he's a good dad. He's so far away that he's a great fantasy.

36:57But what happens when he tries to turn that fantasy into a reality? I feel like we've moved from before sunrise to the before sunset to before midnight here with this storyline. And it's like, yeah, what happens when you actually have to live that life with this person? Right. And especially as, you know, a recurring character, not a cast member, we don't know that much about him actually. And so when he loses his mind at Rebecca's assertion that he lied to her to me, that says, oh, we don't know him as well as we thought we did. And there's something else going on here that is just a complete blind spot for us and Rebecca. And I'm excited to learn what that is. Why did he react that way? What was that moment? And I think that I love a show that makes me wait for that. You know, don't you don't have to tell me everything right away. I can learn. I'll wait. Yeah, I, I just feel like even if he got like maybe a little more mad that I would have wanted him to, I do think he's like, mostly justified or fair in his response that like, he, it's, it's kind of like

38:05yeah, she's making an assumption about what he told her. And then also she, she's like sort of getting involved in his relationship. But in a way, I assume he will come back and at some point like apologize for freaking out, mostly because, but he does sort of admit in that scene that he's trying really hard to not make, um, it complicated for his daughter, really in relation to his mom and dad. And like whether or not they get along and why they're doing things and why they might be moving, um, in a way that I think is like, yeah, seems like he's being just trying to be a good, a good guy. Um, so, um, we'll see. She's also consistently not making room for him in her life. Right. Right. Right. That's, like, I love him hugging the waiter. That was so charming. The waiter being like poor guy had to hire a president. Yeah. That was great. It's just like, I love the highest. But I was like, I don't want him to be the perfect man forever. I want him to

39:08be human being if he's going to be around longer. And I feel like we're starting to get bold. Okay. I'm going to make, I agree with that. I'm going to make a complete, I'm going to say something that's going to send really hypocritical based on that, which is there was a thing that I, I don't remember whether it was Joshua and Tonyo and they would cover Ted Lasso where who's sort of, I think it was a Josh Wiggler thing, which is the less I know about beard, the better a character he is. And I do still think that's true. And I don't love beard and Jay and stuff. Um, I didn't, I, I mean, like the button of the, of the one woman show being like, um, oh, actually, she's taking it to the West end is like fine. Um, like, you know, and again, this is a comedy show. So the one woman show can be, you know, try to make us laugh. Um, I just wish I, I just think the less I knew about beard, the more funny I would think him being like a genius at trivia and all of this other stuff would be, but how are you finding, I guess any of beard, you've ever really mentioned him at all. Yeah. Let's talk about beard. So, uh, you know, I feel like in theory,

40:11I completely agree with that. And but there have been things that they revealed that I like that things that are real that I wish I didn't know. Um, you know, the, the whole beard episode, I love that episode because it gives us more beard without really explaining beard to us. Right. Um, I think in the moment of him with the hula hoop, so I'm like, that is the moment that tells us so much about him while also telling us nothing about him. So I think that's a great example of how to do that. I love when he's confronting Nathan and he tells us his history with Ted and he says, yes, it's exactly like a lot of ladies are obli. Right. That's really funny. I love that because you also like, is he lying? I don't know. So yeah, I agree that giving him a plot with Jane is not my favorite thing to do. I prefer when they came and Jane's stuff is on like the edges of the story. And we sort of tried to infer it. That said, I previously mentioned that I am a theater boy. Uh, jokes about one person shows are always funny to me. They're always funny to me.

41:11And I can't help but laugh whenever we do like a one-man or a show story. I think it is wildly entertaining because even though there's a lot of great one person shows out there, they're also like, for parody. So, uh, I'm not going to complain about that. Um, but I agree with you. I hope that maybe this is the last, uh, beard and Jane plotline to get busy. Or we just have to move it in a place that's not the same joke that we've gotten. I mean, which is that like, they still are obviously like, you know, deeply obsessed with one another. And yet, yeah, I figured it's like, I feel like we've never moved past that point. I will say if all of that was combination to get the joke where she implies that her and Ted slept together and then Ted tells the stage manager or the theater coach. Um, you know, uh, visual, uh, artistic liberty or whatever. And like, you know, metaphorically, that was true, but not actually true. Yeah, that's kind of funny. That's good.

42:12It is fun. Yeah. I, I, I, yeah, I would say that the Jane plotline is a big plus. Like, I get it. I think that the actually Jane was what a writer on the show by that right. Uh, I didn't even realize that. I think so. I apologize. We got it wrong. It's your writer or producer or something. Uh, so like, I do understand, like, it's probably fun to bring her in, get her to do a thing. Um, yeah, mostly I, I love beard when it's like, he just comes in the morning. He's like, I have the rough night. You don't really know what it was. And you're like, he said, and that is my favorite beard. I liked him, um, translating, even I wish I didn't use Harry Potter. I like them translating into Ferris Bueller's Day off. Uh, like I liked him being the translator. And also, it's like which one of us are which and them all pointing at each other. It was like, I thought that was, that was, that was just very funny. This was funny. And like, even calling out, like having the full line of like Ted Lassa, you're my hero or whatever, like they're doing the fault thing. It's very, very good. Uh, like, it's, it's a show that deeply loves comedy. And I

43:15think that he is one of his strengths. Um, you know, I share some people find the pop culture references a little frustrating, but I think that they're really smart about it. I also really like one point Alice going like how many of your references are I can have to look up when I get home or something like that. Then her being like, uh, I look up your references. You got to look up mine. So, it's up there. She's absolutely right. Yeah. Um, there's, there's, there's a woman at my job who's like 26 years old and is constantly confused by our elder millennial references. And it's yeah, very fun. All right. Well, I'm enjoying Ted Lassa so far. I, I really liked it. Um, I enjoy watching the episodes so excited to watch five more this season. You mentioned scrubs or scrubs. Do you just, you were just scrubs is coming back like later this month? Heck yeah. That's two seasons and one year that I know I know it's going to be like a six episodes season or whatever, but I wasn't oh yeah, your right scrubs was this year. That is depressing. It's an April. I know. Listen, that scrubs return not to tandem, but I thought it was

44:15fantastic. You know, I thought they're really, really song. So I'm happy that one. Um, or anything else that we didn't talk about from Ted Lassa season four thus far. We'll be back at the end of the season, but I have one more point I want to make, which is Rebecca. And I love for characterization. Specifically, I love the payoff of Rebecca in season one. We get told by sassy. That's not Rebecca. Rebecca is silly. Right. And oh my goodness. Are they having fun with silly Rebecca? She's covered in barbecue sauce. She's finding from Alice during her I'm not a feminist freak out, which was so good and so clever. I love that. I love that. The people from mom were their moms like you better not be a fit. Like it's not how we raised you like it's so good. And it's a great call out like about how fraught it is that the show about the women's soccer team has a male star at the same time. Like that's kind of how we get the show made. So like how okay are we with this compromise? And then they put that in the show with the

45:19comfort stuff. So silly Rebecca and that whole thing. That was the other thing I just want to shout out. Give us more of Rebecca, comfort and barbecue sauce, please. I love Rebecca. Yeah, agreed. Okay, we'll be back at the end of the season. I did a regular taste makers episode this week, but it was just me. So it wasn't really a regular taste makers episode. It was just me chatting about the things that I've been watching. And yeah, this entry center of the this week, just rolling join me for best in show. Owen, do you have anything you want to plug promote? I just generally know the world. I'm on blue sky at Owen K Craig. I sometimes join Grace for the century and movies. I think we have one coming up. So if you are not listening to that podcast, listen, you got you need more grace in your life. I know I do. I know it. All right, thanks everybody for listening. Let's know what you're thinking up to. It's season four so far, and we'll see you all next time. Bye-bye.