Steve Zaragoza on "Gray Bones in a Grave"

This week, Byron talks with Steve "the Shovel Man" Zaragoza, co-host of Dynamic Banter (formerly of SourceFed and Cloverfeels), about his horror anthology audio drama "Gray Bones in a Grave," why festival horror isn't what it used to be, and an intriguing game of horror this-or-that that somehow ends with a modern cult classic on top.

Stream on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a

0:00 Cold open and Steve's résumé
1:00 Reunited, the Skybound/Geena Davis creator contest, and Frankenstein MD
2:17 The rise of the "Scream King"?
2:52 What happened to Fantastic Fest: the pandemic, the Alamo South Lamar move, and Harry Knowles
5:21 This-or-that: a post-Obsession, post-Backrooms look
14:07 First horror memories
18:11 Why comedians make the best horror
25:39 Backrooms, the Osgood Perkins "shadow director" rumor, and Backrooms 2
29:14 A24 vs. Neon vs. the free agents, plus Yellow Veil Pictures
32:07 The Hollow Wheel and Steve's Halloween-season VR streams
33:37 Will & Dawn, Yankee in the South, and the slow-motion car crash
35:59 GRAY BONES IN A GRAVE: origins, the Creeper comic, and the Shovel Man
41:25 Naming the host: RIP the Gravesman and the Casketeer
44:21 The radio-play dream, live table reads, and the Riverside pipeline
47:12 The cast: Bree Essrig, Nicholas Hamilton, Sam Levine, Whitney Moore, and Talking Bones
51:24 The Freaks and Geeks goodwill index, and the one exception
54:06 Creep Tapes, remote interviews, and the upside of the COVID era
55:03 Season one vs. season two, and the curse of a hard-to-type title
1:01:15 Steve's Letterboxd and his half-star takedown of Flubber

ABOUT THE SHOW
GRAY BONES IN A GRAVE is a horror anthology audio drama created by Steve Zaragoza and Brett Register, with a dash of Owen Carter. Each episode is a self-contained story led into the graveyard by the Shovel Man, a Crypt Keeper-style host who tells you how each resident got buried there. It's fully sound-designed, with live radio-play-style table reads streamed to patrons before each episode drops. Six episodes make up the first season, and scripts for season two are already underway.

Website: graybonesinagrave.com (that's GR-A-Y, built by Jesse Stilwell)
Patreon: patreon.com/graybonesinagrave
Socials: @graybonesshow

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