Spellbreakers Ep. 183: Nobel Prize Roundup

0:00The badlands, you want to get badlands, explain those badlands? That's a hell of a name. What? And I'm your host on the show tonight. Tonight we're doing Nobel Roundup. We're going to do Nobel Prize Roundup. Nobel Prize Roundup. So, let's see. Yes. I am from the Swedish Embassy and they've sent me to help guide you while you were in Stockholm. That, of course, is the trailer of the Prize based on the novel by Irving Wallace, which had only been published the year before in 1962. I was reading. And, of course, it starts Paul Newman in Ilki Summers, Elkuss Summers. And got Diane Baker in it. You know, Diane Baker, for every blonde, there's a brunette. So, Diane Baker, you might recognize, well, she's been a lot of movies.

1:06I think of her as being Senator Ruth Martin, right, in silence of the lambs. It is her daughter that's been kidnapped. And she has to go beg, just go beg Hannibal Lecter to help her send this thing back to Baltimore. So, it's had a great career. Still alive. Still with us. She's 88. But really a movie of its time period. I've been talking lately, you know, movies about in the 60s. They're really a different world. Definitely a man's world, you know. Not that a woman didn't have a big place in it, but, you know, I just love the idea that they, Paul Newman supposedly plays this, this, he's won the Nobel Prize for literature. And he's an author and he hasn't written in a while and he sort of feels bad about that. And he has a reputation for being, well, you know, a little bit of a carouser, a drinker, a womanizer.

2:11Yes, all those things. So, they're going to, so knowing all that and having given them the product, and here's helping summers to chaperone you around Stockholm while you're in town. Mr. Chaotic, womanizing alcoholic, sensitive writer. So, you know, I think of, he's, oh, well, you know, he really takes liberties with her right after the bat. He's like, well, why wouldn't he? You know, they pretty much handed this woman over to her. And it's not like, it's not like, oh, she's a gift to you. She'll serve you any way you want. It's more like, I think of it like, you know, here she is, buddy. If you can't make the best out of this, you know, come on. Do you really deserve the Nobel Prize? So, I try to think of it that way. Now, the plot of the movie centers around the physics prize winner played by Edward G. Robinson. So, you know, and it's got a plot of intrigue and it's in danger.

3:11And of course, that's a, Paul Newman has to save Alki Summers and win her respect and her love. And, you know, it's a, it's, it's a really sort of a stupid story, but it's fun. It's a fun movie, I think. And it has a lot of period aesthetic from Europe, especially Stockholm in 1963. The cool sculpture at the time that are outside the Nobel Prize building. I had the chance to go to Stockholm in 2014. On my 50th birthday, we went there. It was a lot of fun. Went to the Nobel Prize hall. There's a big, like, there's a big market outside the Nobel Prize hall. It's like, got all these people from the third world now. It's pretty weird. But so, Sweden's changed a bit from the 60s. Still a pretty cool country. And the idea that a bunch of Swedes and Norwegians get together and under the royal authority of the king of Sweden and Norway.

4:11And they sort of decide for the rest of us. Like, who is deserving of this great merit of science and art. And I love it. I love it that it's, you know, it's, it's, it's Nordic white people doing it. You know, you know, I think that's, that's appropriate. Who else would you want to do it? Would you, would you want like the real honestly? Would you want the king of a swatini in South Africa and Swaziland or the king of Norway and Sweden to a point to people to do this? You know, there's, there's, there's benefits both ways, I think. But as far as Western culture and art and achievements in art and achievements in science. You know, I, I think I like their current system. I like it that it's the Scandinavians who do it for good. And they, not that they get anything right or not that the prizes actually mean anything in terms of merit, which has to stand on its own, you know, artistic merit, whether it's literature or scientific merit.

5:12And so they just, they've announced, I don't know if they've announced all of them, but they definitely announced the physics prize this week. And the literature prize, and we'll talk about both of them. Why not? But first, and other things, all the other crazy things happening this week. We're not going to, of course, we can only talk about a few of them. So, yeah, so tonight's episode, I didn't make a title card, you know, it's just into the material tonight, you know, into the material. Let's see, tonight's episode of Spellbreakers is brought to you in part. We got a couple of great sponsors and tonight we were sponsored in part by, by save pulse, right? Save pulse, which has an ad read with us. You got our save pulse. All right. Save pulse is really cool. Unexpected health emergencies don't wait. And with save pulse, you can stay prepared from trusted medication, like a moxasillin, azithromycin, hypermectin, and hydroxychloroquine, to the medical emergency kit designed to help support over 30 common illnesses.

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7:22Don't wait. Save $70 and take control of your health today at BadlandsHealth.com. See results in 90 days or your money back guaranteed. Okay, so yes, our wonderful sponsors. Yeah, so we've got an article New York Times. So they gave out the physics prize a couple days ago. Let's get it up here and see if it's not showing properly on screen. Here we go. Nobel Prize in Physics is awarded for the advent of neutrino astronomy. The Nobel Committee honored Francis Halson for his vision and scientific leadership of a telescope within the ice at the South Pole. So we should just note that this is going to be the last Nobel Prize that's probably going to be given to humans. So I would say from now on out, all AI is going to win all the Nobel Prize.

8:26I think we've learned that in the last week too. So this is the humans we had a good run and we got as far as this. And I think this was a pretty good Nobel Prize. And the number one thing that really stands out to me is that it is. It's only one person won it. Only one person. And usually it's not just one person anymore. And usually it's now I think they can give it up to three people. And I think it's limited. And it's good. It's limited because otherwise they probably be given it out to teams of 50 by now, just like they. And I think that's a lot of the papers and particle physics have lists hundreds of authors. The number of co authors on the Higgs boson discovery paper from 2012. I want to say it's thousands thousands of co authors. Everybody. Everybody got in on it. Used to use to only take one person to publish a paper. That's a big change in physics. And it's nice that this guy. So this is France Halson University of Wisconsin.

9:30He's. Born Belgium. And you probably know this already. You probably seen the articles about it. He was awarded the Nobel Prize on physics on Tuesday for pioneering a telescope. Not just but not a telescope like you think of a special telescope in the broad sense of the terms observing things from outer space. Paving the way for a new kind of astronomy. Scientists use this telescope embedded deep in the ice at the South Pole. To detect ghostly particles, whizzing from the far reaches of the universe known as high energy neutrinos. All right. So let's just pick that apart. Yeah. So it's a. He built a neutrino detector detector. So what's a neutrino? You may know that it's a. It's a particle that is. That is part of the set of basic particles that. That current physics theory says is the foundation of the universe.

10:31Now, I. If you don't. If you don't want to accept that model is being valid for the. For the basic basic physics of the universe that he. It's 17 particles and including the three new tree notes three different types of new. Well actually three. Yeah, three. Three new tree knows. But aren't there. There are multiple. Now there's just. And then anti new tree knows I think going there to or do they count. I can't remember. You can tell how much I love the standard model. I can't even tell you which. What it includes. But I'm just going to give you when I when I say these things when I say these things I'm not saying I believe that this these are the fundamental. Laws of the universe that there exists these particles called neutrinos. I'm saying this is what current theory is. I don't think you can argue with that. So. Now. I know there's. I know there's. I know there's people in the come to my show that every strong opinions that are.

11:33Heterodox about physics and I do too. I do too. Mine may be different than yours. I may accept things that you reject. Or I may reject things that you accept. And that's just I just have to go with how I. I have. How could I do anything else but go with what I know and see and think is. The best supported by the evidence so far. But I'm not even saying that about neutrinos. I'm saying people exist. Say they exist. And they're really there. There are particles that. It's just. It's not yet too far a stray here, Matt. They come from they come from something called beta decay. And we sort of had to invent neutrinos so that the underlying physics would make sense at all. They're sort of like bookkeeping devices that. That that keep track of things that otherwise wouldn't make sense. Like for example, in this process called beta decay.

12:34Beta decay. It's. It's. It's. It's. That's just something that exists in nature that we found. Beta decay. And. And the thing is beta decay is. It's a natural process. It's a form of radioactivity that was discovered. I think in 1901. And essentially a nuke and. And the pictures that you see on the screen. If you say this is beta decay. Oh, there's a nucleus in it. It's spitting out this another particle. That's what radioactive decay is. It's when a nucleus spits out a particle or other particles. It's called decay. And it spits out. And what's being spit out if you can see the screen. Is it was a little black particle. And it's a beta particle. A beta particle is what they called it.

13:34And then one of the. One of the underrated triumphs of physics. And this here we get into real physics. One of the underrated triumphs of physics was proving. By observation that this particle that got spit out. In beta decay. That you see on the screen. One of the. That it turns out it's. It's the same particle. That carries electric current as. And carries cathode rays. Called electrons that they discovered. So cathode rays. Those are those are. That's the beginning of particle physics is cathode rays. Cathode rays. Let's let me let's let's do that. Cathode rays. What's a cathode ray? You know, I'm sure you've seen lots of cathode rays in your life. Cathode days. Cathode days. That's that's that's probably. A festival somewhere. Cathode rays. A cathode ray. Is a two. Is it is a two. Is it a two? Is it a two? Is it is a two?

14:34Is is tubes that are. And then they they they're they're created by electricity in vacuum tubes. And nobody what knew what they were for for decades. And then it was it was determined that they are. That they the. The. And they create this glow. They create this glow. But people didn't know what they were. Is it matter? Is it. Is it light? What are cathode rays? And then in 1898 a guy. An American named JJ Thompson proved that cathode rays are are are are are they're made of matter. They're made of little particles that little charge particles. And and he figured out how much they weigh. And what their charge is. And and we came up with a name for these particles. And they're all the same. They're all the same type of particle. They all have the same size and same weight in in their own and and. And we called them electrons. And one of the great triumphs of physics. This is so underrated. If you can understand this, you can understand real physics. Is the discovery that not only are cathode rays made of electrons.

15:38These charge particles. But they're the same same chart. The same charge particles found elsewhere in nature. Found elsewhere in nature. And they. Because they didn't have to be. They didn't have to be. But they're these electrons are found everywhere. And they turn out to be exactly the particle you would expect. And need to be orbiting the nucleus in the bore model of the atom, which was very successful. Bore model of the atom. Very successful at predicting the spectrum of hydrogen. It's a whole different issue. So you had two things in nature. The cathode rays and the and the atoms. And they both had to be. And they both had the same particle with the same mass and the same charge. And then the third thing. The third thing that really just blew people's minds was that they discovered this process of. Of radioactivity is called. Beta decay. And it turns out the particles that get spit out. Euclius are also electrons.

16:38They. It's the same particle. The same properties. This. And how do you know that? The same properties. This. And how this was found through patient experiment to prove that. This is physics. This is real physics. That's real physics. It's. It's discovering that those things about nature. So I think I just wanted to point that out a little bit at the start of the show that. Yeah, this is how you really do it. And we're still. So what happened though with this beta decay. It turned out that the. The second thing about this. The second thing that it. The second thing that we did. Is that it. It's all that we came up with a model of it. Say okay. This is how we think it happens. And the model wasn't very good. The model was incomplete. It didn't account for something. For example. different energy sources and you tally them up like bookkeeping because in physics that's what we do. You can you can tally energy before and after and

17:39it's like bookkeeping. Double entry every every pennies you can account for. And that's the way physics works with energy too. But it turns out there's there's some energy leakage and it's it's very non predictable and some energy seems to disappear they figured and other there's other issues besides that. And basically they had to invent a new particle to say well how about there's this other particle that accounts for the missing energy and we'll just say it's there for now. And we don't we don't we don't know if it is massless it might have a little mass. We don't know we're not sure it's very it's a it's like a big fudge factor in the in the in the process of beta decay and those are called neutrinos and the calling them a bookkeeping device is actually the those are the words of a of a very famous physicist who who himself won the Nobel Prize by himself by himself like the guy this year

18:42won it by himself which is really cool because you don't usually get that you don't usually get a solo winner but Wolfgang Pauli was a solo winner and he's the one that said oh the neutrinos like it's like a bookkeeping device and but we can't even detect them we just know they're there but we can't see they're there and it took decades for people to figure out a way to even we think observe them we think we observe them I want to say we think because everybody thinks that and I don't I can't sit here and tell you that they didn't see a particle that there isn't such a thing as neutrinos I can't tell you that but it's a very strange story and one of the ways they thought they did that this guy in Wisconsin the reason he won the Nobel Prize because he thought oh I can I know a way to fit to detect them which is at first they thought they could do it by putting the long neutrinos detectors which we don't it's not worried about how you would make those but you we had to put

19:42them in the water under the ocean so that and that would allow them to detect and it didn't work it was a big engineering fiasco and I said how about we put them in the ice we can put them in the ice in Antarctica and and freeze them and then we'll we'll be able to build this giant array and explaining how that works not so important tonight but this guy came up with the idea and it turned out to be it a pretty good idea and it worked and um let's see there's a great quote I let's see oh I didn't queue it up so I had a I found it on LinkedIn so this guy was this guy was interviewing the guy who won this guy fritz let's get a better at this so um France Halson let's see we're going to switch over to uh hmm how about oh here we go this is the one share this tab instead

20:47university this is from the University of Wisconsin I should have started with this you know go to the root source University of Wisconsin Madison professor Francis Halson named to only 26 Nobel uh origin physics Halson is the principal investigator of the NSF ice cubitino observatory the words world's largest telescope now uh so it's in Antarctica Antarctica if you believe in Antarctica because I know some people don't listen to badlands all right um I do I believe in Antarctica so they they build it down there because they could freeze it there is why and uh he came up with the idea and they built it and one of the things he said here's a picture of it this is really cool a view of ice cube with a starry night sky showing the Milky Way and green auroras located in the

21:47south pole in the south pole um it's not at the south pole it's in Antarctica this is not some whoever wrote this probably using AI not in the south pole I don't know what that means in the south pole it's in Antarctica it's not at the south pole ice cubes it which doesn't man doesn't need to be at the south pole it's it's the ice part that's the important part it's not that it's on that part of the earth it's important um in 2013 ice cube announced the first detection of high energy neutrinos from outside the solar system okay so but haltson there's a great quote so this is this is the this is the sort of really good if you really don't understand science is they asked haltson you know what was you know what was the best moment of this whole thing and he said it wasn't when they detected neutrinos supposedly that's not when

22:49he that's not was the the his best moment he's he's the where he was the happiest was when after they had built it and they they they turned it on made it operational and it just it worked it worked um and uh just it operated it didn't just fall apart it's well now that I whatever happens it's up to nature see that's that's the attitude of a real scientist whatever happens now it's up to nature I accept the verdict of nature one way or the other now you can in this case you can question the theoretical underpinnings of the whole theory of neutrinos if you wish and say that well whatever they detected um whatever they think they detected in the method of detection would take far too long to explain but it it it relies a lot on quantum uncertainty and saying well there's a certain quantum uncertainty that you would you would observe neutrinos and we're leveraging

23:51that uncertainty and and and we're making assumptions about the uncertainty because we can't observe neutrinos all the time but sometimes they should be observed just by a certain probability in quantum mechanics and uh which they're you get into this fuzzy everything about neutrinos is sort of fuzzy sort of fuzzy that way and uh but okay what I think he deserves it for this instrument I think it's really cool that he he he he built it and uh and that they built it and they operate it and uh I think it's well deserved and uh like I said it maybe it's the last one human beings will win okay so that's my commentary on the on the physics Nobel Prize a lot of times I don't I didn't know this guy's name to be honest um there are people who could have wanted this year whose names I would have known and recognize there's there's there's theorists that I'd be like oh yeah if they gave it to that probably be that probably be something somebody they could give it to but there's

24:52problems with a lot of theory there's problems with a lot of theory because a lot of it we don't even know if it's true or not we like cosmological models things like that but the experiments here it's it's always on safe ground to give it to an experimentalist because they actually built something and it it works to do something uh what it's actually measuring you can you can you can debate that all you want but I think it's well deserved so I think that's I think that's good so hooray for the Nobel Prize Committee giving it to Franz Hallson this year I think that's pretty good uh but that's not the only Nobel Prize there's other Nobel Prizes right there's um there's chemistry Nobel Prize so who in the who in the chemistry Nobel Prize this year let's see I don't I probably not going to know much about this but you can just let's just play along you know we're we're we're having fun the 2026 Nobel Prize in chemistry was awarded to Henry B. Kagan and Kenzo So-A, So-A, the sounds

25:59Japanese for the discovery of nonlinear effects and autocatalysis in asymmetric organ synthesis organic organics synthesis it's not medicine physiology it's chemistry uh okay that sounds interesting I know what organic chemistry is and I know I guess organic synthesis is you're making you're making uh organic compounds and some of them are asymmetric and there's uh autocatalysis is means our catalysis is something that helps the reaction along so this is helps itself along as a reaction uh nonlinear effects so nonlinear effects are things that are well I I know what that means in physics and chemistry I guess it means it it couldn't I'm not quite sure what it means it I mean I sort of guess I get a feeling for it it means it means that usually in mathematics or physics it means the equations are have nonlinear components which means that they they they tend to behave

27:02in non predictable ways as far as the mathematics goes that's sort of a not not my probability but by complicated dynamics that that's that can be hard to track mathematically all right so discovered a new way of manipulating chemical reactions in 19 so this was discovered in 1986 there's another thing about the Nobel Prizes that's sort of interesting is uh so this was the first physics prize in 30 years over 30 years since 1992 that was one person winning it and it's not like it's only been one person throughout the years like right from the beginning there were teams of people they accounted for that right from the beginning but it was it was sort of half every most let's say half of years it was one by one person by themselves and usually usually there was not a very small there was not a big time lag between a just somebody making the discovery either theoretical or by experiment and them winning the prize it was pretty pretty quick turnaround

28:07on that uh and they you know Einstein you know he sort of made him do general relativity first before they gave it to him I think but he sort of won it he won it for special relativity and uh and the brownie and motion uh theory brownie and motion and the photo elect I think the photoelectric effect I think is sort of what was the primary thing you Einstein won it for multiple things he did and uh I know somebody's out there saying Einstein stole his work uh whatever it's not all you know about Einstein if you're gonna tell me that I think you need to explain what he stole exactly otherwise I don't believe you otherwise I think you're just you just heard that and you're saying that that's that's that's what I'm gonna assume um so and I know that somebody right now is trying I'm gonna explain it to you right now okay whatever get your own show um okay that's chemistry okay cool

29:13all right the two of them share twenty but anyway the two things yeah so it's been 30 34 years since we had a solo physics winner that's a long time to go without a solo physics winner and then um and and the thing that Paulson did was he came up with this idea a long time ago so it it's relative they they took a long time for them to build it so I guess it's that's that's not so bad of a turnaround but the the 80s the chemistry that was that was done in 1986 so that's a big timeline and they didn't used to be that way so that I think that whatever you want to make about science about that I think there's something there that it's worth you know why is it why is there such a big lag now there might be multiple reasons okay what is this Nobel Prize this is the Nobel Prize site no Nobel Prize in chemistry all right all right so now it's um what else we got I think

30:20the one I'm most interested in this year honestly I think is let's see and Carson and Patricia Carson okay is a Canadian class assistant writer she was awarded the 2026 Nobel Prize in literature for her bold and inventive over work that in playful dialogue with the classical tradition has created new forms for contemporary literature okay well that's so what stuck out to me there is she's a class assistant she's a classical scholar and they read about her yeah she studied ancient Greek when she was young and I think that's pretty interesting and she's a poet and I thought that's all I knew about her I thought well that's interesting and

31:21they in the press releases they were saying that she's a they said she's genre bending she's genre bending and when I read that I thought it said gender bending so I was like oh no it's like well when I said when I said genre I was like oh all right so because you know you know with literature you know there's always a possibility they're going to go super woke right and uh I don't know um sure why not Norwegians and Swedes why not give it to you know make take the opportunity it's up to you learned Norwegians and Swedes of the Nobel Committee to tell us what is great art this year and so it was great literature and and will you know we may disagree with you and think you really call the ball a strike or vice versa but we all know that everybody's listening to you right now

32:24and everybody has at least a passing interest in who they choose if nothing else to mock it as we're sort of doing right now saying and I'm not mocking Ann Carson I'm not mocking her uh I'm I'm mocking the idea that we we have we can even you know make those kind of judgments about quality of literature and um we we and this group of of people can sort of pick for the rest of us and all they're really doing is saying hey what about this person you know they they've injected this person into the into the dialogue of of Western literature at least for the moment now this you can read the list of Nobel Prize winners and it might and some of them might be familiar to you and some of them might not be familiar to you and that's certainly the case with me here's Nobel Prize so it started in 1901

33:29um official statistics of Nobel Prize winner nominee so these are nominees Leo Tolstoy was nominated okay so what can we just get winners because they just give us a list of winners because they have to make things so complicated uh all right um can we can we just get a list of winners is it all over here did you make it is wick wick a pd has got to be so freaking clever well you don't want a list of the winners you want a list of the nominees uh how about no how about how about a list of the winners because we we we only like winners we're Americans we don't we don't we don't want the losers right it's absurd that I'm scrolling down and I don't only see list of winners like I see list of nominees you know okay great how about list of winners

34:30I'm an American give me the winners well and Carson is one I know we know that so we'll go back and talk about me and our Nobel Prize literature okay how about list of winners this is sort of absurd now another uh controversies yeah like when Paul Newman when the Nobel Prize in literature that was very controversial list of nominees list of no list of Nobel laureates this would be the ones who won okay okay all right physics okay here we go we got to go to this list so all right prud home French author won the first one so Tolstoy they nominated him because he was still alive they didn't give it to him they didn't give it to the guy who wrote war in peace when they could have because I got it I guess they got to give it to you while you're alive or at least alive that year Roger Kipling won in 1907 we'll we'll talk about him

35:33in a minute um so a lot of Scandinavians at first you know because they're like yeah these are the people we read uh an Indian guy first third world guy poet Robin Dindrov Togore wanted in 1913 um Knut Hampson Norwegian Anatol France French but William Butler Yeats you've heard of him he wanted in 1920 George Bernard Shaw created the Fabian Society you've heard of that right which Eschardin worldwide socialism that's is it was designed to do the Fabian Society right with uh with his wife right um or then what no with with the with Sydney and Bernice Webb husband and wife team they were the you know Wolfen Sheif's closing Fabian Society you know bring in in the new world order all right great great playwright though I don't I don't see how you can not count him among a great playwright of the 20th century Tomas Mann Sinclair Lewis all right so lately and a lot of him you

36:37Cheslaw Milose I have a volume of his poetry I have a really good friend in Poland and he sent me as a gift recently a volume of Cheslaw Milose he's only I think he's the only to win it in high school so this was in high school I got into I wanted in it's like oh who are the Nobel Prize winners I'm gonna read them all because that's what it means to be an educated person in no literature so I did I went to the public library I checked out out in power by Elias Kennedy who wanted in 1981 they had you know when they somebody wins the Nobel Prize in like library you see even school libraries you know copy of it you know Cheslaw Milose and Odysseus I found a Odysseus Aletus who was a Greek poet Isaac Bassamish Singer Singer American who wrote in Yish so Saul Bello another American Jew I read a bunch of his stuff when I went away to college in 1983 I read all I like binge read Saul Bello's novels because I thought that'll make me educated you know I never read Mark Kess I never got around to reading 100 years of solitude

37:43Golden yes read that Lord of the Flies he wanted in 1983 that's the year I went away to college and I was really paying attention and it was like golden on it because he'd written that one book and do you know Lord of the Flies that there was a true Lord of the Flies incident in the South Pacific when a bunch of boys were stranded on an island did you know that actually happened and you know what happened they were very well behaved and they cooperated and made a functional society and helped each other out and made sure that everybody got food it was the exact opposite of the Lord of the Flies scenario the two here Claude Simone okay first this guy's black first 86 you know this is a Nigerian so yeah so that's all the rage that's the year 86 is the year that Paul Simon came out Graceland you know all of a sudden we're we're all into Africa now yes Africans free Nelson Mandela and give the Nobel prize to a black man okay that was 86 very 86 all right um an le v sell on the peace prize

38:51that year okay but we're looking at the literature 20 Morrison black American so and no but Nelson Mandela got the Nobel prize at your 90 now we're like you know we're not just doing the black African thing once we're gonna we're gonna make up for lost ground we gave it to way too many white people and now it needs to go to it needs to go to to some some some people that are not white for a while all right Japanese guy Shemus Haney Irish Irish all right there's another poll okay so 96 I don't know this guy Viswava Viswava Symborska Viswava Symborska I think it's I can see that all right and then some more Europeans Gunter Gras Nipal okay Indian all right Harold Pinter British playwright okay Doris Lesson South African road about South we have

39:51the problems yeah all right um some of these I don't know Yosa is a well known Latin American author right Alice Monroe on Tyr Canadian she's Canadian okay um then Bob Dylan a lot of people think this is when it jumped the shark it's like Dylan's a great but songwriting is not the same as poetry you know I know what people want to do with that but I remember in high school I think it might have even been tangled up in blue and they in the poetry collection they publish here's Bob Dylan's tangled up in blue it's poetry let's read it as poetry and so we really read it as poetry and it's when you get to the chorus and it repeats repeats tangled up in blue or you know or whatever whatever it was and it does it multiple times it sounds retarded as a poem it's like

40:59don't don't repeat the chorus just say it that's what a poem is about poetry and songwriting are not the same they're different genres I guess you can give it for songwriting but to say that say Bob Dylan's a poet it's metaphorically yes but he's a songwriter it's different all right that's my that's my that's my position I'm sticking to it you you can disagree but I last year they gave it to Hungarian who wrote like this writes dystopian novels never heard of this guy Lazlou Krasno Horky Krasno Horky that does not sound like it it's like a Hungarian spelling but I suspect it's it's like a it may be a Polish or Czech name because Krasno means red in Russian so it's like red's red something in Russian in in a Slavic language and then here it's Ann Carson all right Ann Carson all right here she is so let's take a look at some of her

42:00poetry so she's a classist and I saved a bunch of I saved a bunch of I saved I always save a lot of tweets by bookmark them and I also and then I like them like liking is how I save things doesn't mean I like what's in the book I just like because people can't see your likes so I use likes to save and I can go I can always go back to my likes and bookmarks is so I try to save things in folders of bookmarks and I get sort of crazy on a hand with that and and and and and then it becomes a mess but liking you just like it and then it's in your like it's in your likes and I can always go back and find a like that I did okay so I saved a lot of likes about AI this week which we could talk about a bit um here's one I like like you know I think only fans is a sigh up hear me out I save that

43:02so I save stuff about uh you know because this is we're talking about people going crazy from about sexuality right now whether whether um you know the male female thing had a had a strange week I think and uh so let's see um I did so a lot of CIA stuff I save a lot of the sia ups um I the the only fans thing was about how that I thought it was an interesting idea it's basically that a lot fewer American men actually have only fans accounts and pay for it that audiences are actually very low most of the women make only a few dollars and uh that a lot of the money is actually coming from China maybe China is actually fueling bots that actually buy only fans accounts for a lot of young women and the idea is to try to get young women into believing that only fans is a good career mode and something they should do and basically they're

44:05they're just throwing away a lot of their a lot of something that they may regret throwing away later even if it's all just on camera uh I'm I should say I'm a big I keep wanting to do a show about this about how how sexuality's gotten all screwed up in America so at some point I'll do that but we're not doing that but but but here's my point my point is that that I that when we talk about Ann Carson in her poetry I think this is something that's very interesting I in fact let's go back and let's let's this she's a nice looking young woman uh so it's just using her as an example of yeah so his theory is that now millions of young women can never have normal families never marry good men they're forever tainted for the average man and if you're a woman you might be saying well that's death death who cares about who cares about what men want I think is you know um

45:12right right we don't care man are gonna want what we tell them to want they will always and they're and they're gonna want this they're gonna want only women who've been on only fans they're gonna want that they will always get bullied maybe maybe not and develop mental issues maybe maybe not this is its personal theory their children will get bullied you know this I just don't think it's a wise move for a woman to do that um I thought this pretty extreme opinion though but this you know this came up this week with the male female thing so of course I'm talking about what happened at Cornell and I don't want to get too much into that it's just it's just there's a lot going on there and there's a lot of opinions and I'm right now just gathering people's opinions on that because I do think it was a landmark week for that it's it's a landmark week for uh the sexual polarity and heterosexuality in in America and uh I think I can speak for

46:22for a lot of men in terms of that okay uh we know that that we have to take the blame for this all men have the the women who are angry about this which is not all women it's really interesting seeing the split among women really huge split and that's pretty I think that's really healthy uh but there's a there's a there's a bunch of women I would say and I think we know what kind of women they are who are we're very angry about this in a way that's like this is terrible and all men or this is what male sexuality is about and all men are responsible for what happened and as a man I'm saying okay whatever we know we can't fight this just all we want as men all we want as men is tell us what the new rules are okay because like with the me too you know it was like what okay so okay uh okay we got it all men are responsible for all harassment that happens to women women are freaking miserable I think we that's what we've established in our society women are miserable

47:24women are just done with men right women are done with men they they they they they're done with they they're done with the burden of being uh of heterosexuality of sexuality within they're sort of done with that now they a nice girl uh you know she is a right to have a threesome like the girl at Cornell you know because isn't that how it started out you know a nice innocent threesome you know that's how far we've come is that was the that was the original innocent plan right but you know evidently when it gets to four or five that that whether it was consensual or not we know that something wrong happened and what wrong happened is that is is due to the men and we can say that that's that you know that that's definitely true and some kind of thing men need to suffer because a lot of the women they feel bad about what happened it's not you know it reflects poorly on on women and uh it maybe this what this this girl did or not but anyway we know men need

48:29to take responsibility so men need to take responsibility for policing the behavior of other men and if there's a woman and even if she says she wants three four in order to bring them in even if that's what happened or not even if she does that as a man it's your responsibility to say honey you don't want that you you really don't want that I as the man stepping in and shutting this down because this is not right and uh so so it's now the responsibility of men to keep women's sexuality to sort of govern it because otherwise otherwise she might just like I just always wanted to experience this because that's how far it's come and and uh is that young women legitimately pursue these things it's established out of a sense of above all competing with other women in experience like oh I want I want to experience that too so um or or not whatever whatever but we've come

49:30I my point is that we've come so far away from where we used to be because this is just absurd right by by any historical standards but we know as man just just tell us what the rules are are they that we're responsible for you know uh you know sort of making sure that this didn't happen even though you know what what are the just tell us the rules but they we can't there can't be a set of rules because that's how we are as men we're like you know as a man you can always say you know yes or no to this question and as a man you know you can like say well yes and no depending on what you meet by the question as a man as men we sort of think that way yes and no but it could be yes it could be no but I'm not saying it's both yes and no at the same time I'm saying you you have to tell me what the question means more specifically and then I'll tell you yes or no but that's but women work differently in terms of the female consensus and the rules of the long house and all that I think we all know this and that um that oftentimes there is no clear cut rules

50:36right I learned this with from my nieces playing games with them and they were just young that as as girls play different than boys with boys boys want to know what the rules are and then you stick by it and every boy sort of becomes a four sort of the rules but the way girls play I learned from my nieces is that there's one set of rules but it's always sort of it could be totally different set of rules a minute later and and as a guy as a man as so I'm like 45 years old I'm playing with these with my nieces and they're and I'm like I knew enough to just go with whatever whatever the change of rules is just go with it right just go with it and and that's how you play that's how you play with girls right and uh and it's it once I realized that it was tons of fun but the idea of having a fixed set of you know god forbid we're playing a game and then I say and I'm not talking about monopoly by the way I'm not talking about board games girls are good at following those rules like because that's a that's an independent third party that we're all supposed to sign up for but when it's the rules we're making up the rules on their own then as

51:40men we like they're never going to tell us what the rules are so and that's that's part of the point of female sexuality is that there's as a man it's always a mystery to you so we're not going to tell you what the rules are it used to be you married the woman and then there was a sort of a contractual agreement to for both people to have sex and it was it was considered it was considered wrong to deny your spouse sex and and and that was partly it was for both partners had the debt to the the other partner and and part of that and a lot of was the women because the women wanted to have kids and for a man to deny his wife sex was to deny her the opportunity to have children which was morally wrong it was like that that's that was wrong to take a woman out of her possibility of motherhood that way so we people had a totally different idea about these things in the past and now we nobody knows what the rules are in its chaotic and and I'm going somewhere with this with in regard to the Nobel Prize for literature because we this woman wanted

52:43and so she is I you know I'm thinking they're giving that the Nobel Prize for literature it's got to be sort of woken some way where we're going to go with the wokeness I don't it's no I'm glad they gave it to a white woman honestly over over a man from Africa again because I'm just not interested in African literature I'm really only interested in Western literature for the most part I read sometimes I read other literature I I did my I did my years reading foreign literature I went to the Georgetown University School of Freakin Foreign Service where they just force foreign literature down on you I read that you know Edward Said and all this that was mandatory reading Orientalism we had to read a lot of third world authors in the program so and I was into it I did I did Indian Indian civilization is my religion requirement and I studied Hinduism because I was into that I was and now that's taken over the whole school I was the outlier

53:47then all the other kids were taken like Catholic courses right I was the one who had to be sort of no I'm going to study the east because I'm so cool and now the whole all of Georgetown is like that because it's taken over all right so I'm just saying a white literature speaks to me more and I'm more interested in it so I'm more interested in the white woman wanted and maybe I'll be able to interested in it because that's me because that's me all right um this is a post what do we want we want goodbye to her goodbye to the to the the the busty woman I'm not only fans I hope I hope she makes a lot of money and I hope she lives the life of regrages but I do not think it's healthy that all these girls doing this and uh okay oh this is interesting what was Jane Doe looking at for at Cornell's Kaifi the free press women know that fraternity houses are dangerous places

54:50and yet they go there anyway yes okay all right now we're finally going to get to Nobel Prize for literature a poem by Ann Carson so this is from the New Yorker so somebody wrote this and I had not read any of her stuff but I think it's interesting uh this woman so this was New Yorker says a poem by Ann Carson who was awarded the 2026 Nobel Prize in literature read it in full by the way I want to say that I did get Miller Miller Bids thank you for ten dollars for the um for the rumble rant these things disappear after a while so I wanted to say thank you um I mentioned in the chat that I thought you would like the the prize so now we now you can see why I wanted to talk about that because you know that whole thing with Paul Newman and Elkie Summers and he's like oh he's sexually harassing her and it's like I think she probably volunteered for that assignment and it was like not again not like

55:53not like that not the subtext isn't they provided her with this concept him with this concubine of this really attractive woman uh she you know she she's like no we're going to follow the schedule she's like um she's the establishment she's the establishment but he has won the prize that the establishment gives out he's the darling of the establishment for the moment so he's allowed certain liberties right and uh the liberty is he gets to he gets to hang out with her and again I say buddy you know do your best with her while you're there you know she's not easy to win over we went out and founded an ice queen for her for you but the good part is if you do win her over you know that that that was a real big win you know you know that's that's as a man that's like when you when you when the when you have the woman that's you know the other man want you know that oh well she chose me you know that's real whatever and so

56:54and he he gets to do it because he's the note he won the Nobel Prize in Literature he's a great artist so we bestow upon great artists that we realize that they're highly sexed men with a highly high sex drive and uh we need to allow them to suspension of judgment about it right that's that's the subtext of the prize you may not like it but that's what it is and that's why I say it was some you know it's a man's world 1963 a woman's world too but but it's no longer a man's world we don't like that at all we don't want it to be only a woman's world now Keith O'Hagan's one dollar Matt the Indian Nobel Prize winner wasn't a poet he was he was a poet all right the whole Indian thing is going nuts isn't that I swear two years ago I was telling you guys about you know the Indian seem like they're there's a lot of people don't like them and they're sort of there's a lot you know I think in this is sort of interesting I'm gonna keep an eye on this oh man has that gotten big and we all know why too all right so thank you okay so I read all the rants um

57:59um let's so let's let's go let's go back to Anne so Anne and Carson's poetry which I think is very interesting a poem by Anne Carson New Yorker who is awarded the 2026 Nobel Prize in Literature read it in full New York so I used to subscribe to New Yorker I don't anymore so but we'll just read this we can read this so here's who won here's it it's good to be neuter I want to have meaningless legs there are things unbearable one can evade them a long time then you die the oceans remind me of your green room there are things unbearable scorn princes and this little size of dying Anne Carson from stanzas sexes and seductions all right I love this so I think I love Anne Carson poetry I think this I've never read it before today but I think it's brilliant I think it's brilliant I may not be your style but this you know what was I saying women are done with

59:02men they're done you know sexuality is too big of a burden they don't need men anymore for support we've we've engineered a society where women generally support themselves and it actually earned more than men so they don't need that we feminist have been successful at removing the need of women to enslave themselves to a man just to be supported in life they that's been the victory and women can now you know do a victory lap and one thing is they don't need to provide to explore to do anything sexual anymore except like you know having fun in college with the three sons that's still that's still big right it's going to be every girl still deserves that room shringa when she gets to just go go wild go through a whole phase you know and that's that we want women to do that we want women to go through a whole phase whether to be on only lands or just you know go you know enjoy the frat parties that they want to go to and it's dangerous but you know

1:00:05but that's the point you know and then they get done with that and then women can move on from that and cast off their sexuality and I just think there's something about Ann Carson's poetry that really is drills into that and you may not like if you don't like this this is where civilization has gotten to well that's your problem this is where we are I would say and yeah there's still people paring off there's still people having sex and there's heterosexual sex and there's still people with the dimorphism and there's still babies being born for now for now although with some countries are just disappearing completely from the earth like South Korea which what birthrate of 0.96 per you know which is which is less than half of the replacement rate so for every 150 years from now for every 100 grandparents or every 100 people that there'll be just four grandchildren

1:01:11something like that that that we're it's just amazing so the world is winding down we have the population crisis people have stopped reproducing in and it's dwindling away and there's it's been successful that that that that to do that and women though are liberated and so they get to so I it's good to be neutered I think that's brilliant my personal poetry is a failure I do not want to be a person I want to be unbearable but this is this is this is blowing my mind this is this is heavy stuff lover to lover the greenness of love cool cooling yes there's still this there's still there's still this desire in her that they're to say that it's still there there's still the there's still the sexuality is still alive in the human spirit we're we're not dead yet you can see it in her her writing to try to negotiate this and and she's she's she's trying to

1:02:16negotiate this this this world right earth bears no such plant who does not end up who does not end up a female impersonator drink all the sex there is still die yes so yeah and you get into the the the fruitlessness and the meaningless of sex you know what an Andy Warhol say sex is the biggest nothing in on the world you know and and as I'm you know as a man you know that you know that it's it's all great up and until when it's like oh my gosh what am I doing here you know so we all and now women are like experiencing that as a sex it's like what what was I thinking I don't have to do this you know so of course if you're sitting there going Matt what are you talking about this is crazy of course I'm being a little bit sure you should know that I hope yeah okay laugh out loud

1:03:17revelators say yes I'm I'm cultivating some humor you know you know me but will to push for hard modern women and are angry oh did I not share I haven't not been sharing and did I not share share this tab instead okay so I was not sharing let me go back I was not even sharing all those Twitter I'm sorry crazy all right okay I didn't share that this so you did not see the only fans post of that which is good because it would be like because only because I always make call only lands only fans I'm gonna be on only lands tonight again not only fans here's the here's Ann Carson here here she is okay I screwed up I forgot here's Ann Carson here's what she looks like she's born 1950 she's born in 1950 here's what she looks like okay and then I went over here

1:04:19and I shared this share this tab instead and this was all the Twitter posts and that I was mentioning and a lot of AI stuff I scroll past a lot of stuff okay no this is this is this is just my feed what does he want stop sharing okay that's we want we want the history that's what we want okay okay this is all sorts yeah here we go history can we share this share this share this okay so at least the audio worked while I was talking about all that share screen history here we go all right history okay so no what we want is so I visited that because that's

1:05:27in my bookmarks now this what do we want is likes that's what we want oh we didn't do that right didn't do right here likes here we go here we go so let's see okay all right stop screen share screen chrome tab okay so what likes because I want to show you the Ann Carson's poetry I read it for you so you heard it but I think it's brilliant I think she's brilliant I think she really captures the spirit of our time as far as especially the experience of being a woman somehow I'm looking at the god this must speak to a lot of people this must speak to a lot of people all right profile

1:06:32posts likes likes oh yeah this is it this is it okay this is it share screen so I think it's I got a lot of geek stuff in my in my feed so like yeah I so I think this again like I said I'm glad it was a white woman who who did this because it's like a lot of there's a lot I can make of it whereas if it's a third world author I don't know who wouldn't want to comment on it even this is pretty cool this is can you see this yes this is a really cool thing this popped up in my feed and I think this is I don't know if this is real but it's no this isn't a tailor this photograph you're seeing on screen I've cleaned this up before again a

1:07:35young woman taken 113 years ago in August 1913 a year before the first world war this photograph was taken look at that doesn't she look like she's like you know it's very contemporary it's a partner with 16-year-old Christina Bevin at Dirty Door Dirty Dirtle Dirtle Door in Low Worth Dorset so down on the southern coast of England near Cornwall she's down on the coast there I think that's just amazing all right where where where's our and where's our and Carson poetry here here it is and poem by Ann Carson who was awarded the 2026 Nova so again let's read it again just to be on our 750 it's good to be neuter I want to have meaningless legs there are things unbearable one can evade them a long time then you die the oceans remind me of your green room there are things unbearable score and princes the little size of this little size of dying green room like green

1:08:41room it's like theater but it's also like the green green like the color of life right she uses that imagery of green and to and it's like what is it like to be neuter when in the midst of remaining life you know my personal poetry is failure I do not want to be a person I want to be unbearable lover to lover the greenness of love cool cooling earth bears no such plant again green this greenness who does not end up a female impersonator it's bad it's drink all the sex there is still die brilliant just brilliant I love her all right here's another one Nobel Prize in literature so I guess the person didn't approve of this this person then in my feed the winner of the Nobel Prize for literature rights like this and you're worried about AI generated text no I'm not I think I don't know what their point is I think to me the point is this is so human and real and painful

1:09:46that AI could never have written and cars these poetry she's very human it's very real you can tell a person wrote it did she also wrote this how pants so pants so we're talking about pants really there's something sexual here to pants you know who wears the pants simple of masculinity it's now also women wearing pants all kinds of pants went by all kinds of pants went by so could you you know it male men men walking by all kinds of pants went by all kinds of pants went by all kinds of pants went by if you're not reading what's on the screen I'm just reading it line by line this is line by line of course I guess this is real I don't have all kinds of pants go by all kinds of and it goes on and on and how many are there one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve fifteen eighteen twenty one twenty four twenty seven twenty eight that's probably close twenty eight plus another twenty four is forty two and then

1:10:50probably another twenty sixty two and all kinds of pants went by reminds me of what you remember Jack Nicholson was typing out on his typewriter in the shining it's sort of that but it's it's like a female version of that I think so you know she's she's obviously communicating her frustration at feeling like she is going insane in the current world and what it all means I think as a woman in a very female way very trousers too okay yet the birch's linger it says at the end yet the birch's linger okay that's what I'm gonna have to think about more whether what I think about this the others were obviously brilliant this is a little is this oh here is somebody posted this next to to this which is Rudyard Kipling 1907 God of our fathers known of old Lord of our far

1:11:51flung battle line beneath whose awful hand we hold dominion over poem and pine Lord God of hosts be with us yet lest we forget lest we forget the toll moot the toll moot and the shouting guys the captains and the kings depart still stands vine ancient sacrifice an humble and a contrite heart Lord God of hosts be with us yet lest we forget lest we forget far flung our navies melt away on dune and headland sinks the fire low all our pomp of yesterday is one with ninova and tire judge of all the judge of the nation spares yet lest we forget we forget very interesting poem um feels very bombastic and nationalistic very masculine um keep in mind Kipling was had he built in complex things about about the theme of of patriotism and empire uh a really

1:12:52one about um when you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plane maybe if you know that one Kipling was a great awful but he Kipling was a science fiction author he wrote science fiction pieces about a world in which aviation uh it had taken off and this was before the Wright brothers i very interesting imagining civilization you put Chicago as being would be the most center of civilization in the age of flight so very very interesting um so i guess the person's point i don't know what their point is i think one might assume the point that look look how far we fall and this is what wins it now but i think this is a you know especially the idea you know that it's a part of the dialogue with the shining i think it's sort of interesting all right we need to we need to wrap up it's it's so there's the that's my verdict on the Nobel Prize for literature those are the only ones i know about let's go back let's just check out the chat again and um

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