Should College Sports Be "Saved"? Google Data Center Clash & Metro Detroit Fall Fun

0:00Daily Detroit is brought to you by the community. Support our work at patreon.com slash daily Detroit. Hello friends and welcome to your daily Detroit sharing. What's to know and where to go in Southeast Michigan. I am Jair Stays coming to you from our studio at Tech Town. It is Thursday, October 1st, 2026. And joining me at the table is none other than Mr. Devano Riley. How are you? Doing good, Jair. Falls and full swing. I feel it. I feel it in the air literally. And I feel it in all the activities that are coming up for fall. And we're going to talk about some of them, but I got to say it's got that. The sun has that light where you know it's fall. Yeah. Where it just distorts just a little bit. It's a little lower. It's a little, I don't know. It's a grayer, but not in a bad way necessarily. Love a crisp fall day. So I like it breaking it breaking back out the quarter zips and vests. You will listen. How yuppie of me. But let's be honest, aren't you always wearing a quarter zip?

1:01No, no, it's too hot. I can't. Quarter zips only come out 75 and below 75 and below. Yeah, I mean, see, for me, a quarter zip wouldn't even happen until like 65. Well, I mean, the ideal weather for a quarter zip is more like 65, 70. I'm just saying, I want to try and wear them. Otherwise, I'm just I'm rocking a polo, I guess. See, for me, it would be quarter zips on bourbon out. Right? It's a zip season. It's also bourbon season. Yeah, sure. If it's warmer, I'd more than the gin and other drinks. I completely subscribe to that. I guess the good news is the evenings have been very chilly here. So I'll tell you right now, I've had sweatshirts on the evenings. I've had quarters of sound evenings. I've had two bonfires so far. Really? That's a bonfire count. Yeah. Nice. So that does tell you that things are happening. So, where have you been? So speaking of fall activities, I went to a place, you know, I know sometimes we do have some family listeners, mothers and fathers and maybe grandfathers and grandmothers who listen to us, aunts and uncles and all that. I met some of them.

2:02They're wonderful. And so I want to try and work in some things. And I do more family related things now, obviously. It's kind of how my weekends revolve. We're not quite into the sports as a revolving or, you know, social activities for kids as a revolving activity yet. You know, we're still still a little too young for that. But it does revolve around what the kids want to do. And we went to a place, I hope our downriver listeners should be familiar with. But even if you're not from downriver or don't know that area, I would highly highly suggest that you take a trip to Heritage Park in Taylor on Pardy Road, right at Pardy and Northline Road. The park itself is huge. I won't get into, I mean, they've got baseball diamonds. They've got like basketball courts, ice rinks, playscapes, all that stuff. That's great. I mean, you can do all that stuff. But what I want to focus on is where we always go as a family, which is their petting farm. It's wonderful. Let me tell you something. I'm going to, it misses my hot take. Heritage Park petting farm over Detroit Zoo for me. What? I'm sorry. Oh, man.

3:03I mean, a part of it is where I live. If I could walk to the zoo, maybe it would be different. But like what you, it's like one of those things, like when you actually think about what you really need out of an experience with a child, the interaction with the animals at a place like Heritage Park where you can touch the animals, you can feed the animals, is so much more than a zoo where they might get to see a gorilla or a tiger or they might not get to see it at all or they might see it from 100 yards away. I don't know. There's something just a lot more intimate about going to a petting zoo. You're a kid, man. You know what? Those other animals are cool. But you know what else is cool? A sheep, a goat, a fluffy cow, a pig, bunnies, alpacas, ducks, ferrets, turtles. Those are just as good as any other animal when you're a kid. And you can touch them, you can feed them, you can interact with them. They have them all. Many horses. They're all out. You're never ever worried about being out or not. They're just hanging out and going the barn if they're not in the outside area. They've got a really nice picnic shelter for like events. They actually installed like a place scape type of thing.

4:05Again, people usually, I know people probably think we could pay the ads. I just love Heritage Park. So yeah, I'm giving it, giving it its flowers. But yeah, I mean, again, if you were right there near the zoo, sure. Go to the zoo. But if you're going to drive 20 minutes anyway, I really think and you have a small child. I really think the experience of Heritage Park is going to be way better bang for your buck. It's been a while, but I've been to Heritage Park. I've not been to the petting zoo. I don't want to pile on and do Detroit and Zuse lander because I understand the value that it brings and I love it. I love it. Oh, that's right. However, a listener corrected me. I had not realized because the last time I went through, I didn't see it. They no longer have capy boroughs. And so therefore, I'm with you. I co-sign. I'm in. I'd like to see something. I'm not against going to the zoo. I'd like to go to the zoo. Go to the zoo. Go to the zoo. But Heritage Park, if you have a small, especially a small child, they're enjoyment level. I think will be a lot higher going to Heritage Park and it will cost you, I think it's like three bucks admission.

5:06So this is also a very cost effective. Okay. So how old though? I've got a cousin FU that's like 10, 11 years old. Would it work for them? I think so. I think so. I appreciate animals. So you can interact with the animals. Now again. Beyond that, as far as the petting zoo, you don't have much. You've got like a covered shelter. You can get some concessions. I think my daughter got a lemonade or something. It's light on anything else. You're not going to be able to play arcade games or anything or whatnot there. Have a meal. But the park itself has a ton of different, as I said, a ton of different amenities. There's a little historical village. You know, they have their own tail ahead. I've seen that. I love that. They've got their own like very, very, very mini greenfield village situation. So that whole park can offer you a lot of different things. But if you're just going to see an interact with animals and you want the kids to have a good time, it's great. Little kids can feed the, you know, kids feeding the goat. You know, you get, you know, you get to pet an alpaca. I think it's, I think it's more what they want. And they have seasonal stuff. So this time they had like a little train that you could ride, an off track train.

6:08They have like something for Halloween. They have something for Christmas where you can go see Santa. So it's, they're always doing some interesting programming. I think it's, you know, kudos to Taylor. They're, they're municipality because it's city run basically. So good for them. I had a time when I was younger that I thought that I wanted to be an alpaca farmer because I saw late night commercials that said that alpacas provide love and income. I mean, they're certainly cuddly, cuddly little guys. I have to, I have to, I have to cheat a little bit. You know, my daughter has these llama book, llama, llama books like llama, llama. It's a little llama. He does everything. So we just call them llamas. And she gets older. I'll explain the differences. But for her purposes, it's a llama. Do you tell your children white lies daily, Detroit at gmail.com or 313789 3211. I went to something that I think is also family friendly, but very different vibes. Okay. What is that? I saw a sneak peak and it's going to be happening all weekend of Elmwood a light. Ooh, another good seasonal delight. It's a cemetery.

7:09I'm hearing more. Okay. Just macro and then I want you to, you can describe it. On a macro sense, I've heard anecdotally from more people about different activations at Cemetery's now. I've seen like movie that Cemetery's. And so I'm interested to hear about what this Elmwood a light is all about. Well, and I think too that the vibe around Cemetery's with different generations is changing, where Elmwood really acts as a kind of park during the day. Like it's not really locked off. You can go. You could walk your dog. You could go for a runner, whatever. It's a really cool thing because it's literally got land left over from when Detroit was young. Like there was a tree. Sadly, we lost it, don't do to the tornado. But there was a tree. It was there for 280 years. There's still hills and it's the only place where the bloody run creek is exposed. All of it has been buried underneath the streets and piped out. It's the only place where it's exposed, which we're both history and there's some sure you can appreciate that. Absolutely. I actually didn't even realize that. I've never been to Elmwood. I mean, it's a cemetery. So I'm not really sure what, I mean, it's not something that I've thought, oh, I'll

8:12go to the cemetery. And that's why I think this is really cool. So this event is all kinds of lights. Now they really describe it as more sensory than spooky, which I would agree with. So there's all kinds of like light mapping projections, art pieces, lights. There's going to be like a bar card, a food truck. And you basically get admission. You could also do like a tour if you want, like of the art or of the history. Amy Elliott Bragg is absolutely brilliant around Detroit history. She's involved with the cemetery is going to be a two doing a tour. This is the kind of thing that I think would be a ton of fun to go to. I saw the preview. I got to go along with photographer Ryan South. And we have a ton of photos up on daily to trade.com. But if you haven't been to Elmwood, I think this is a great excuse. And it's a fundraiser to help support them because they do so much throughout the year. Yeah. I think it'd be really cool. And I think especially doing it in a place like Elmwood with all the history, with all the story there. Now I don't know if they're still are they still burying people in Elmwood.

9:14Okay. They do 400 burials a year. Wow. Which I did not realize. Yeah. But I was thinking because you and I both like cocktails, right? I was thinking because there's these mausoleums with all these fancy names of the past, right? Right. And I think to myself, because a lot of them are lit up for this. It looks really cool. I think to myself, if those spirits were just like strolling out of their door, these people who had like money of Yesteryear, they must have known what a party is. Sure. They're going to be well dressed if they are present. If you believe in that sort of thing. I think you should have coffee and cocktails, the cemetery's period. I mean, people are going there for an experience. You know what I mean? I mean, obviously maybe you're going there to visit a loved one. Maybe it's a loved one you knew, but maybe it's the love one you didn't know. And, you know, the experience right now is very, again, very old school, very kind of Victorian. You go, you lay your flowers, you go sit there, solemnly, and you leave or whatever you do. But, you know, why not have the able to have a drink with great grandpa, John, or whoever it is, and, you know, have a coffee or something if you don't want to have a drink?

10:15But I don't know. I think coffee, coffee and cocktail should be available at Cemetery's. I think that's absolutely brilliant. Have like a little coffee stand. So Cemetery's don't spook you. No, not really. I mean, I wouldn't want to be hanging out at one at night unless it was this thing. Because it was all lit up. Yeah. No, it doesn't spook me. I mean, I work in a giant, you know, basic mansion of sorts. So no, I'm not really scared of that stuff. I would love to hear what people think. DailyDotroidGmail.com and go to DailyDotroid. We've got all the details. You're going to love the photos. I think there's more than a dozen art installations too. So this is definitely going to be a fun one. So let's start with college sports. We all know Michiganders, love college sports. We've got two very major teams and then a bunch of other important teams. I don't want to brush my merch. Anyone in the ecosystem. Yeah, but just going by alumni bases, you have two of the largest alumni bases really in the country, two of the largest athletic programs by size, by investment, all that.

11:20So yeah, I mean, you got to give credit to U of M and state for them. And but there's some other great fantastic colleges as well. Yeah. So Washington, DC doesn't usually get involved with college sports, but they are trying to do it now Monday night, the US Senate passed the Protect College Sports Act, 77 to 22. That's a big bipartisan margin in a very divided Congress. Republicans Ted Cruz and Eric Schmidt wrote it with Democrat Maria Cantwell on board. Almost every Republican voted yes. Democrats split 27 to 20. I would note that Gary Peters and Alyssa Slotkin, our Michigan senators voted yes to this. They were part of the Democrats voted yes for this act. But what would it do right now every state has its own rules with the NCAA? There's been a lot of talk, right? You've got NIL, you've got money in the sport and a lot of ways. There's been a lot of change in the last few years and a lot of people are uncomfortable with that with that change. So under this schools could pay players directly up to nearly 50 million dollars a year.

12:22Players would get one transfer without sitting out a year plus five years of eligibility. Players could take no more than 5% of an athlete's name, image and likeness deal. The NCAA would also get a limited antitrust exemption so can enforce all these roles, which is a huge change. Schools couldn't cut Olympic sports for nine years. And then also to head off a super league, conference sizes would be capped. A school switching between power conferences would have to play as an independent for three years first. That would cost I think a lot of money and a lot of prestige. This is very controversial in a lot of circles. And I have probably a, what might be a nuance take on this, but as you are the, one of the biggest college sports fans, I know, what are your thoughts on all of this? Well, the answer is kind of nuance. It really is. I mean, I have a clear take on this, but I just, sometimes you can see where the obvious biases and another what lie.

13:24I mean, this, when you said Washington gets involved, how often is it good when Washington gets involved in something? And whether it be colleges, whether it be businesses, whether it be whatever, Washington getting involved usually means they're going to screw things up because Washington is screwed up. We have a broken government. So what are the chances, especially a bill sponsored by, I mean, let's just stop there for a second. Ted Cruz, I mean, one of the most universally despised politicians in the country and Eric Schmidt, who just had the most massive face plant, I think anyone has ever had on social media with his attempted grilling of Jack Smith yesterday. I mean, if it's, you know, if it's not in your social media feeds, it will be just a comedy of errors of, if you follow politics, you've seen it. Absolutely. But clowned himself. He didn't follow sports because not the sports means are coming with it because he clearly had, with ass backwards on who, what team was playing what? And he thought he had Jack Smith dead to rights and just absolutely clowned himself the same day that an article came out about how he is an heir apparent to a, you know, a vice

14:27presidential run. I think that literally crashed and burned on the day it happened. So that's who's sponsoring it. I'm all, I'm start off. I'm very skeptical. I think that on its face, I think this bill is intelligent in what it's trying to say it's doing. It's trying to mask itself in, we're going to bring back, you know, the kind of ethos of college sports that was and, you know, really have some guardrails so things don't get too out of control. The problem is the cats are out of the bag. The horse is already out of the barn. I think they're pretending like they're actually doing something when they're not. And they're maybe kind of conveying a power that I don't actually think they have. And there's a couple of reasons for that. First of all, I think there's a huge, huge conflict of interest in how they're going about this. There was a big uproar a few weeks ago when college game day, which is the biggest college sports program in the country before every game you're trying to get to college game day.

15:28That's all I mean, you know. And they had Ted Cruz on. They don't have politicians on. They had Ted Cruz on. And they were interviewing about this save this college, save college sports act. And a lot of people kind of were a little kind of hurt by not hurt. They were, they were kind of confused as to why he was getting this opportunity because they just get this opportunity to talk about a legislative act. Like what's where's there more to it? Well, without getting too much into the weeds for years and years and years, the SEC, the Southeastern Conference was paying players. We're talking duffle bags of cash. We're talking about cars in your mom's driveway. We're talking about, I mean, it's not even a secret. There's a million articles you could go read right now about the corruption that existed in the SEC and the South schools like Alabama, Clemson, LSU, rampant corruption. Not saying it didn't happen in other schools, but the SEC is just known for it. And the SEC was also the dominant conference. They won. They won more than any other conference. The last 40, 50 years, the SEC dominated college football.

16:32Maybe it was related to all the cash they're giving their players. Maybe not. Now we get into this NIL world where the stakes are kind of even. You want to call it corrupt. That's fine. But at least Michigan can pay their players. Ohio's taking pay their players. Cal Berkeley can pay their, everyone's at least able to pay their players along with the SEC. It's an broad daylight now. Now the SEC, they have won a college football title in three years. It's been three years of big 10 champions winning college football title. That hasn't happened in decades, generations. Because the, you know, the Brian Winhorse meme, something's interesting happening there. Okay. So, but then why would Peters and slotkin vote for it? I think, again, because they are generally middle of the road, milk toast type of senators, in my opinion. And it gets the basic job done. You can vote for it and look like you're helping to support the advancement of, you know, keeping some guardrails in college sports. Now the other thing, the final thing I want to point out, the SEC, the reason this all ties back together, Ted Cruz was on ESPN talking about this.

17:34Guess who has the SEC media rights deal? ESPN. They have a three, the SEC is a $3 billion deal with ESPN to carry the SEC. They don't have that with a big 10 and another of those schools. So the ESPN putting on Ted Cruz, platforming him, as you might say, to spout off about this is just reeks of just, you know, back deals and self interest. Like, it just really rubs me the wrong way. I think it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. I think, again, the SEC and kind of the Southern politicians were really the people behind this. I mean, that's really who is pushing us. You talk about senators from Texas, a lot of the Southern senators. I think there's, I think it just, it just stinks. This bill kind of stinks and it could have been done in a better way. It should have been done in a better way. At the end of the day, the final thing I'll say, Jair, on this is, the horse is out of the barn already. I know I said that, but let me reiterate. At the end of the day, there's no teeth to this in the sense that what I'm hearing, what's being talked about now is the big 10, the SEC, as it were, the ACC, some of these

18:36big conferences are just going to say screw you to the NCAA. All they are is a governing body. They're a nuisance. They're taking money. They're like the guy who's taking juice off the top of your deal and they're not doing anything. The big 10 looks at this and says, man, what do we need them for? We got our own network. We can make a week strike our own TV deals. We can strike our own any kind of multi sponsorship deals. What the heck do we need the NCAA for? We just play ourselves or 16 teams doing it as players and we already pay other teams to come play us. When a school like Eastern comes and plays Michigan, Michigan pays them like 5 million bucks to come play. They're like, why can't we just do this? We don't need the NCAA and the NCAA, I think, is scared, blankless. Well, you're right. Once they figure out they don't need us, then they're just going to go off on their own. I think they're trying to stop it, but they don't really have the mechanisms to stop it. I will note for people that President Trump does support this legislation. However, there's a very questionable path in the House. Speaker minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries is against the bill and so is the Congressional Black Caucus because they kind of feel like, well, why are we putting in laws to restrict

19:40labor? Why isn't there a clause in there to say, you know, the number one public paid official in most states is like the football coach or the basketball coach. So if it's really about controlling costs, why aren't there caps for coaches, salaries, and all the facilities investment and everything, I mean, I have a little bit of a different take. I think what's hard for me, and I know that ratings are up. So I know I'm in the minority, but I'm just going to say how I feel. This whole thing has made me, first off, I do think the players should be paid. I think that they should get their fair share of the thing. They should maybe even create a formula like they do in other sports where it's like X revenue comes in, this goes to the players, right? I'm for that because it is only fair with these schools that have so much money coming in. However, I will say I'm watching a lot less college sports. It's a lot harder for me to care because what this turns into is the colleges become the NFL minor leagues. And if I want to watch pro ball, I'm just going to watch the Lions or wherever else.

20:40And so as somebody who doesn't have a connection to those two big schools, I get why alumni really like it. I get why there's so much like energy around it. And I'm not here to yuck anyone's yum, but I haven't watched a college football game in a year. So where we can agree, not that I still watch much college football is ever, but where we can agree though, is I think that where this should have really focused in on is the ability of players right now, this whole portal. I agree. I don't like the fact that I'm basically running back. Can come in as a freshman, take a bag, take 100 grand, and then Nebraska calls him. And then next year he's playing for 500 grand in Nebraska. Then he's playing for 800 grand. I follow it anymore. It's not any fun. And then and and again, and it benefits a school like mine, Michigan, where yeah, we can go, you know, we say, we know we didn't have a good year. Let's go grab the Oregon quarterback, give him $8 million. Like I don't like that either. So I, I would be for some guardrails, like you said, that don't allow this transfer portal of players to be moving all about the teams.

21:40Like you know what, you want the bag? You want a million bucks? Great. Marine for three years, you know what I mean? I'm I'm for something like that. Or if you want to leave, there is a stiffer penalty for leaving. So I do agree we do need some more guardrails there because I like, I like to see a team grow. It does feel like, especially like Michigan basketball has really become a team of mercenaries. I mean, I hate to say it, but that's what Michigan basketball is now is, is we basically cut the check every year and say, all right, we're just going to buy the five best players that we can buy and throw them out there and let's see if we can win a championship. Now sometimes it works for us. It's worked pretty well for us over the past few years, but I don't feel good, pardon me, it doesn't feel good about it. Well, it's almost like fantasy league, but for college sports, like major fantasy league. And for me, there's also an education component to this. I mean, that's and I know that that's polyannish, right? Because what these teams in these sizes, it is a multi billion dollar business. Yeah. But I guess it kind of takes it all away for me. And where I wonder if we're headed to a world where the NCAA handles all the smaller schools and then it's just a couple of big conferences and we take the sheen off and

22:44it's, you know, pro ball, but not I totally agree. I think if I had to prognosticate, and I'm not the only one saying this, but if I had to prognosticate where this might go, you do kind of have this three tiered system now where the NFL is the NFL, they just do what they do. The big 10, let's just use the big 10s example, maybe the SEC, they break off themselves. They become these like floating planets of conferences, they exist in their own and they play each other only when it makes financial sense to play each other. Like sure, they'll strike a deal for it. Or maybe a championship game. Yeah, or maybe a champion chicken where I can even see it like a, you know, the big one. All right, we're going to have Texas versus Ohio State and, you know, almost like paper view style, you know, like the big matchups. Anyway, so you have these conference existing that pay players, exorbitant amounts of money, they do share more. So like if you're in the big 10, even if you're, you know, Northwestern football, you're going to, you're going to see that you're, you're, you're, so it'll, it'll make sense for every team because they'll do revenue sharing within the conference, just not within the whole league. So I can see these conferences breaking off becoming these mega conferences. And then like you said, what is we left with? What is college football? And maybe this is for the better.

23:44What is college football? Maybe it's the rest of us, you know, the rest of them. It's the 140 teams or 120 teams that aren't part of that that still play that don't have a lot of money, but they'll go on TV and they'll be entertaining as heck games. And you know, that maybe that's where like this is the soul of college football stays with, you know, with the Western Michigan's with the, you know, Grand Valley states of the world. And like that's where the soul of college football stays. Like I hear that on football, but my other question then I get to is basketball because the final four, like the NCAA, like what do you do with that, right? Because part of the glory of that, the whole tournament is the bigger, the smaller teams go and get the bigger ones. But they're destroying that already. I mean, they keep expanding and they keep expanding the tournament, the tournament. It's up to I think like 90 something teams next year. They're just going to keep doing this. There's going to be 120 teams in the final four, which is basically all almost all the division one basketball schools, like they're just becoming, they're already, they're eating themselves. So as much as I hear you, it's the, that damage is already done and the NCAA tournament

24:46will never be the same in the coming years. I know people have thoughts on this daily to try to gmail.com or 313789, a 32 11 would love to hear from you. All right. I want to end the show talking data centers because a big one, the biggest one, honestly, planned in Metro Detroit, cleared a big hurdle today. There's some drama that happened recently. I went on Packet real quick. This morning, the Wayne County Commission voted unanimously to override County Executive Warren Evans video of tax breaks for the massive project, Ken Oley in Van Buren Township, covering 280 plus acres just west of Metro airport. Google would have, the deal under this is that Google would pay half the usual local property taxes for 12 years that covers about $152 million in construction and more than $2 billion in computer equipment. The tax break adds up to about $125 million.

25:46In return, Google would put a little over 15 million into a local infrastructure fund with the township getting some rules on noise landscape and water use. Evans vetoed the package last week. He said Google gave the county about two weeks to review it in his words. Wayne County should establish its own timetable for protecting the public interest. Commissioners said that their vote doesn't approve the building itself and that the decision belongs to Van Buren Township. That final commission decision comes up October 14th. There are a lot of issues, worry and concerns in the community, Devon, because a lot of people, the vibe that I'm hearing, like when we first started talking about data centers, like a year ago or more, it was a very mixed vibe in polling. Polling has turned wholly against data centers in Michigan and in the country, even though you'll see articles now saying that Michigan doesn't have enough data centers. I saw that in Koreans, things like that. When I hear from listeners what I hear is they feel like this is just getting rammed down their throat and they don't have anything to do about it.

26:48What do you think? That's partially it. That's partially what is happening is it's getting rammed down their throw up by politicians and bureaucrats and big tech oligarch companies, oligarch run companies. They have every right to feel that way. You see some of the videos of I saw some, maybe you've seen this too, where the guy, the data center guy is going door to door and you literally can hear the hum in the rain camera of the data center as he's going to this woman's house. In the background, you hear this like, I don't know, man. The optics are bad. Optics are really bad and I don't think they're going to get much better right now, especially when you think about some of the people who are behind the data centers and the companies and the sentiment, the public sentiment towards some of these individual companies as well. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of, maybe it's for you, maybe it's not. I still go back to, in Dearborn, we passed a moratorium on data centers. And to be clear, you're on the city council in the city of Dearborn. Yeah, I voted to pass. It wasn't controversial at all for the city council. We were all on the same page to pass that moratorium on data centers.

27:48Again, it needs to be studied more. It needs to be understood more. We even put a provision in actually, which I thought was good. We put a provision in where not only did we pass to moratorium, but we put a provision that notifies the council every time someone tries, which I think is important. So we as a city will know, hypothetically, if Google or Elf or whoever it may be Oracle even wants to, reaches out to us to contact someone at the city about data center opportunity, we at least know. So we can kind of start to gauge who's interested, why they're interested. This is something I don't think will ever be for in Dearborn. Again, I get that if perhaps you're a smaller township, some of the boon or the money that they'll throw at you might be worthwhile. But it's one of those things where I think right now it doesn't make a lot of sense for places like Dearborn for more built up cities, for larger municipalities. It really doesn't make a lot of sense. But I just go back to, I do agree with the fact that let the people of the city decide, let the people of Ambrane Township decide if they want a data center.

28:49It shouldn't be, and I agree with executive Evans on this, but I also agree that it should be up to the people to decide. Now Commissioner said that they in reporting said that they don't want to be perceived as being against business development. And is that sort of blank check wise? Is that because to me it feels, when it's 13, nothing, it feels like it's not listening to the vibe at least that I hear out there. And it's wild to me to see a unanimous vote when I hear my inbox, when I'm on the street, the vibe is completely shifted on data centers in the last six months. It's almost like they're not talking to anybody, but lobbyists. Yeah, that's a great point. I don't think they are. I don't think they are on the ground at all. I think they're talking to, they're talking to lobbyists and the lobbyists are talking to the data centers. And there's a big piece of the public that's just left out of this entire conversation. And I've said it before, I don't think that the companies behind the data centers have done a good job at all, making their case or explaining to people in realistic terms

29:53and answering basic questions about what are the impacts? How is this going to affect us? They just have done a poor job. Well, they're in a bubble too because look, I used to work in corporate communications. Like I'm aware how this works, right? And it is wild work that anybody thought, anybody thought we're going to come up with something we're going to tell you is going to end jobs. It might be a threat to all of humanity and you should build one in your neighborhood. And your electric bill is going to go up. What, who thought any of this would make this is completely predictable if you've ever talked to humans before? Yeah, I love the videos of some of these big time tech execs, they're confronted with this and you can see them just like spiraling. Like what are you talking about? You're washing machine, uses more water than a data signer like shut up. Did you see the CEO of NVIDIA saying that he didn't know what his address was? I've seen more crash outs from these tech guys. That's scary. They're in charge of, they're basically in charge of your... Yeah, they're in charge. They're in charge of the earth right now and they are severely, emotionally unstable

30:55and socially unstable people who have violent crash outs anytime they're confronted with facts from people who live in reality. It's really scary. Yeah, and I think that's part of the thing. I think one of the things I've noticed is that like hyper rich people are living hyper online now. Oh, yes. Where they're just living through acts, they're living through Twitter, they're living through whatever comments or message boards or whatever, they're not talking to actual people and that's also happening with our politicians and that's part of why we've lost so much cabin pressure. Like nobody's talking to anybody normal. Absolutely. Even back in the day, you talk about some of the biggest titans, whether it be Rockefeller or Henry Ford or the Vanderbilt in New York City. Those people still had to go into town sometime, had to talk to people, had to interface with reality, with humanity, to go to their factories, to go... Today, what you want about these titans of industry of the past, they had to get out of their bubble and had to go into reality in the rest of society. Like you said, we've just lost that.

31:56You don't have to anymore. You can just live in an online bubble somewhere. Or you can live on an island in Hawaii. That too. I would love your thoughts. DailyDetroidedGmail.com, 313-789-30211, wherever you stand, I always appreciate that. We're going to be doing a mail bag episode next month because, oh my gosh, we're literally in... Oh, actually, this month, because it's October. It's October first. Oh my goodness. Wow. Hope the Halloween decorations are up. They're up. Yeah. Okay. Great weekend for it last weekend. I'm polling all contributors. When do you bring out Christmas? My wife would tell me that we can bring out Christmas November first. It might take a little while because they got to get the Halloween decorations down first. But once Halloween's passed, I think you're in the clear. See, for me, you take Halloween down and there needs to be a cooling off period. Throw up some corn or throw up some stuff. Yeah, harvest, yeah. Carvesting, keep it chill. And then do the Christmas stuff. Do the Christmas stuff. I do like that. We probably will. After Thanksgiving. Realistically, we won't put the...

32:56Well, see, here's the other thing though. What about if you did LED lights that change color? I haven't used orange to green. You know what I mean? I am living in 2027 here because I already have those. I have the flood lights and I turn them on. They just stay out all... I bought them on Amazon. If they burn out, I burn more. I buy more because they were like 60 bucks. But yeah, I just changed the colors. Now I got orange and purple right now for Halloween that like spotlights my decorations. Then I can have just orange and yellow. Then I can have green and red. Oh, it just keeps going. I have red, white and blue during the... That's the key, man. Inside you brought that up. That is the hack. Get yourself some flood lights to your house and you can just... You can be whatever decoration you want. I love it. All right. Well, thank you so much for listening to your daily Detroit. If you're on YouTube, thank you so much for watching your daily Detroit. We really appreciate you. You know, local media like this is brought to you by our members on Patreon. Local media needs to be fearless and be able to talk about things honestly. Part of the reason we're able to do that is that we are supported for these kinds of episodes where we've got how it takes by our members.

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