Rob Won the War, Maura Lost the Score | Traitors Finale + Reunion Recap

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3:08delivering the peace of mind you deserve. Visit home instead online for a better what's next. Reality with the King is hosted by me. Carlos King, I'm an executive producer. We have produced some of your favorite shows from the Red Housewives of Atlanta. New Jersey and my own creation. The love and marriage franchise and bell collective. Every episode we recap reality television. From the Red Housewives franchise to the bachelor or selling sunset. In addition to celebrity gas, weather in the unscripted space or scripted as well. Dustin, this is the last time I'll be wearing overalls. Yes, it is. That's why you ain't wearing nothing but overalls. Okay. You said if it was if I'm wearing my overalls, I'm a bear at all under them all. I'm just like Carlos. I mean, at least I'm patient. Come on, welcome to these.

4:09Dustin, I bought a Diana Ross moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if I was there, I'd do the Diana. Dustin, you know, they're already spreading rumors about being you. Yeah. What did what? Let them talk. With James. Uh, James Earl Jones saying. You mean Angel Massey or. Now see here you go being mercurial. Angel does. I love her. It was all fun. But hey, Angel, I love you. She knows that although. I don't think she like I use the music. But it's all fun. I mean, in a world filled with so much controversy, let's have fun. We have to. Well, and specifically in her case, and I don't care no more because the season is over, we had to laugh to keep from crying. So of course, we make jokes and shit. Otherwise, if we sat in the fucking doom and gloom of the experience that we were having, I think our take would be a little bit different.

5:09So I'm sick of them motherfuckers talking about me because I might not read the comments, but you know, my cousins be down in there all the time. And they be running back to me with screenshots and names and all that shit. You know what I'm saying? So y'all can be mad at me all you want. I don't care. Angel was not exciting for me. Well, we were owners was. I was going to say, we'll discuss that guy's Monday. Yeah. Monday night live does I got to tell you this now. I'll tell you more Monday. I just got back today. This week, I was in Roddick North Carolina and Nashville for the Nini crawlers to work. Yes. And when I say to you, dust it and again, I'll repeat this on Monday for the for the girls to hear. Monday night live is like everybody's favorite show. I could not get enough of people screaming about it. Your name, Dustin, listen, I don't know if you know this,

6:12but I'm here to tell you this. Your biggest fan base of people who like you. Intimately. Yes, the guys. But women, Dustin, they want a piece of you and I'm going to tell you that. What a compliment because there's no it's scientifically and statistically proven that women are smarter than men and they smarter than us. So if that's the if I'm the choice, if I'm the let it look Carlos, if I'm Sophie's choice, you know what I'm saying? Yes. Then guess what? Good for me. Thank you, ladies. Good for you. Good for you. Listen, I know they're saying that America's heartthrob is Rob. But no, the title goes to Dustin Ross. So again, main drops. We will talk more about that on Monday on my YouTube channel. But we got to get into this double hitter.

7:13Okay, not double fisting a double hitter. That is the traitors for Dali in addition to the reunion, Dustin. And then there were five. Then there were five. Yes it was. You know, for me, Carlos, I ate strawberry bond bonds in my mind and drink champagne. It's always watching this episode and watching them go down in flames. That's what they are. I'm going to show you my notes just so you know that this is real. I'm going to show you what my notes. Look what my notes for this episode say at the top, Carlos. That's exactly what all they have to get. Dustin, you do say now, sir. Okay. I, as soon as they, this is where I feel like whoopee Goldberg must have been on set.

8:14With her curse fingers extended telling them everything you did to them, done to you, because that's literally what happened. As soon as they did Natalie wrong and flipped on her at that table, Tara, Johnny, Eric and Mora, all of them went down one by one for doing dirty. And it was so beautiful because in each case, it was like, no, you was going to flip on her. Now look, look what's happening to you. And none of them could believe it. So that was beautiful and poetic for me to watch. I enjoyed it. I was like, nope, get them, get both that ass, get them, get them, get them, get them. It was great to me. No, I think listen, I will go and record by saying this. I know there's a lot of people online who, I'm going to say a lot. I'm giving them too much. There's a couple of people online saying this was the worst season of traders. And I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that, you know, Rob outsmarted people.

9:15And doesn't I, for the first time watching this show, I watched the finale as a producer. Okay. No, I could, I, I don't watch TV as a producer unless there's something that I, I'd recognize and I'll tell you Claudia and blue about on Mondays. But last night I sit in my hotel room. I did my show with Nini. I'm like Carlos King, stay off Twitter. Just stay on social media. No spoilers. And before I went to bed, I'm like, you at least have to watch the finale. I watched the finale and in my room, I'm like, I don't think I gave this season enough credit because what that finale displayed to me truly was I appreciated Rob and I appreciated this nuance of him and Mara being like this Ross and Rachel friends.

10:17Do they or aren't they in a relationship dating sleep? Like it was, it was, and there's, I'm all over, I'm all over the place because there's no real recap. But the face of disappointment that Mara had when Rob Reveal, he was the traitor, was it reminded me of one of my shows when a person finds out that my man cheated, had a baby. I'm going through divorce. It was that, that shock value. And in that moment, Dustin, I said, I may not have watched the other seasons, but I'm going to go and record saying this was cinema. Of course it was, it was emotional. And the reason why there are some people who are saying it's the worst season, good, that you feel that way only because it shows me as producer, the producers did a fantastic job igniting something and you emotionally that you cared so much

11:19to hate it. Does that make sense to you, Dustin, what I'm saying? It makes perfect sense to me. It made you, you're saying that people were made to feel something, which is the goal of art, right? And this is entertainment. This is the arts. This is that's what this is, you know, that was a reach. But that's what it is, you know, what I'm saying. And further to that, man, shout out to the producers because they definitely put a hell of a story together in this episode, right? With the highs, the lows, the anticipation, the, you know, hanging on with baited breath, you know, waiting on, waiting to see the other shoe drop and find out what's going to happen next. That was riveting. That was exciting to watch as a viewer. And so job we'll done to those producers as far as the game itself, delicious is the only word that I can use to describe Mora and Eric's faces cracking in this episode tonight. Delicious. Eric thought that he will get to Eric in a minute.

12:20Mora just knew that her and her rod, it can't be hard. Kind of hurt. She knew she knew that her baby locked in. You hear me? She really thought that they was Jack and Jill about to go up the hill. Hit Ritter Pellow out of when he told her I am and always have been a traitor. It wasn't always have been for me. She ain't no what to do. She did you see you saw everything drain from her face? Yeah. Drain her hair was already bone straight. It got straight or somehow. You know, I'm saying when he said that shit to her because her ass literally dropped into the arch of her feet when he said that, you know what I'm saying? And that was just beautiful. Beautiful. That's what you get. You turned on everybody. You when you, you turned on Eric right in the round before that. You know what I'm saying? I promise seeing him like I promise you I got your back. You're not better than Rob. No, who actually shot out to Rob because one thing that you that we have to say Rob won

13:23this game fair and fucking square. He literally played a great game. And while he might not have been who we wanted to win if we could have chosen the winner, there was literally no one more fit to win this game than him. I mean, you can not hate on that. You can't take that away from him. You can call him whatever you want to call him, but all of his dirty deceitful deeds were done in the name of advancing his game. And that's why every motherfucker that was on the screen was there in the first place. So boo on them if they didn't choose to do it and take the initiative and take advantage of the opportunities to have a smart gameplay. They were still doing dumb. They was playing so stupid even in this last episode. Carlos King when they was outside getting ready to do the mission and about to pick who was going up on the helicopter. Yeah, it's gotta be you. It's it's made for you. It's gotta be you too. Are you out show god damn mine? If there has ever been a time to divide them while the fuck is up and get in their heads,

14:27it's now. What are y'all even doing? I just, what do you okay? So listen, you are a faithful punitive of you or of trainers. What was it about Rob and Moral that it's it's sort of like a listen, Shaunchamon black mamas. Black mamas when it comes to their boys, they boy, they go wrong. There could be some bellings footage of the of a son Rob and the banker they'll say, I don't know, he has a doppelganger. That could be just a spooky, who's like they they can. The it was my point is it's sort of like turning a blind eye like there's just no way in hell. It could be this person. Have you ever seen faithfuls be so blinded by one person because I I haven't seen that ever? No, not any of my previous seasons. Both of them are attractive. Both of them have a a mysterious you know, they have a mystique

15:32both of them have that. And so I think that that was just persuasive and influential in the house. They could just persuade other people through charisma essentially, right? And mystery they would be able to persuade people to think differently about situations that they got damn new better. When Johnny left, he said Eric and Rob are the traders in his exit interview. So that means that he was aware upon the time that he was leaving, they still turned on Natalie. You know what I'm saying? They say it was just it's just a lot of things that have happened where these people like you said have been having a complete blind eye, they they they were not even entertaining the idea of Rob being a trader up until it was too late quite literally. Yeah, yeah. And one thing Rob did say, which is why I got to give him his props, because I would have the same thought. He said, why would I forfeit my opportunity of winning hundreds of thousands of dollars just for people I met three weeks ago?

16:33Right, would you get somebody you met three weeks ago, $100,000? I wouldn't. That's what he said. Yeah, like, yeah. And guess what, Dustin? Points we may. Points we want to hook him may. And guess what else Carlos? He didn't. And that whole pie by himself. Okay, why would Eric even think as a trader? Why would he even think that Rob was going to take him with him? You should have been trying to get rid of Rob your damn self as soon as you got in that turret, but you were stupid because he was not going to take you to the only people that go to the end together are the faithful people. Every trader is trying to get everybody else out so that they can keep all the money for themselves. You fool. He was she was a fool. Eric was a fool. They was damn fools. This and Johnny and Terry. They was fools on ice. You know what I'm saying? That's what they were. Today they was all fools, man. That was all fools. That's what they were, man.

17:33Damn fools. I'm fools on ice. They were coming in that Johnny came in that last breakfast dumb as hell. Hello, everyone. You know what I'm saying? Walking in that breakfast, I'm like, you fool. You need to be starting at this table. I'm coming in here to eat, but I don't trust anyone of y'all. And me and Terry are going to get y'all asses out of here because I know y'all traders. Let's talk about you. I would have started every table would have been round. If it was up to me, every table I said that would have been the round table. Carlos, I would have been going in and interrogating motherfuckers and planting seeds and trying my best because they were literally at the like, like Alan said, they were on the precipice of the motherfucking game winning the game. All you have to do is win it. So take advantage of every moment to persuade the few people that's left to go with what you're saying. So you can get the asses out of here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was it was shocking to even see how Tara.

18:39Sorry, Tara. She really tried to convince Mora like, I think, I think I think Tara was like, look, I love this bitch ain't about to vote off Rob. Like, I ain't about to fight that battle. I know that's a losing battle there. She's answer him. It is what it is. Let me at least convince you of Eric. And more have her moments where I thought she could be convinced. But ultimately every clip hanger was was rested on her boat. And her boat was so predictable that ultimately she got what she wanted, which was the end with Rob. But let me ask you this. Why do you think Eric at the last round table decided to say Rob's name? Because he didn't have any other choice. Eric is not smart. And so he was trying to like figure out things in the moment when he was in crisis.

19:43As opposed to being strategic the moment that he got invited to be a traitor. One thing about Rob, he played the longest of long games this entire season. There was no move that he was making that was predicated on off of just emotion in the moment. Or every movie made was logical. That's where Eric fucked up. Once he sees Rob flat out term, it wasn't enough for him to know, hey, I'm on this game show called the called the traitors where essentially we're all on a selfish pursuit. And if I have an opportunity to eliminate him, I need to do that. Because he already was going to eliminate me anyway. He was a traitor first. Eric's whole head wasn't in the game. He's thinking he got a damn. He's so happy and excited to be friends with the cool guy. And I'm saying and be with him and act like he's better than everybody else. That's where he fucked up. It was so many times in this episode that that Eric's behavior was in complete contrast of who he showed himself to be when it was exposed that he was going home.

20:44It had gotten played, right? When he got played, it's, oh my God, I trusted y'all and I am really hurt. I trusted y'all. I'm so hurt. Mind you. I'm in my house rolling. My father cracking up at the television. And he talking about he hurt. But at the beginning of this episode, when they murdered Mark, when him and Eric, him and Rob murdered Mark. They're homeboy and their own friend when he walked in that casket. Eric was sitting up there and he'll miss you, man. You was all right with the bullshit then. You know what I'm saying? Then the next day they get to breakfast. He was the first one to bring up Mark's murder at the time. So that was really wild. Mark's murder last night, right? Well, I mean, I'm just there's no way that I could just, you know, then I know I'm rambling. But Eric, go ahead. So he so full of shit to me in his exit interview, in his confessionals as he was talking about the fact that the jig was up

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25:49Like, I just, he really irritated me the most, because he seemed the most deceitful, the most sneaky and corrupt. He's the worst kind, because the minute he got a taste of that power and greed and saw a foreseeable win in his view, in his eye line, he turned into a heartless, careless bastard after professing to be the exact opposite. And to me, them the worst kind of fucking people. And experiments like this really show who you are as a person, because you don't know no better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I feel. It's, it's true. Like, I don't feel sorry for him at all. Like, like, like, not even a little bit. You know what he gonna do when he hear you say that, Carlos, when he watched the video, he undo what he does. He raises his eyebrows, acts like he's came, but he's surprised. That's what he do every time. So when you say that, that's exactly.

26:50Well, we do know that when they watch us, Rob, let the comment under our posts of us, the hey, Rob. What a Rob, you played the fuck out your game, bro. So again, going back to the end, right? So of course, it was predictable up into, like, look, it was a, it was a predictable finale. They tried their best to clip hang a lot on Mars, Boat. We knew she wasn't going against the grain. So that was that Johnny Boom, Tara Boom, Eric Boom. And it's her and Rob. And she really does think like we are the faithfuls. They're going to do it. It, the reason why I will always say this was so well done and cinematic is because the shock on Mars face was television gold. It was, it was, it was television gold. And you saw Dustin, I've never seen anybody go from excited

27:52to sad within one second. And the fact that her response was, you're never going to get a girlfriend because you're a good liar. Unless it's me, Dustin, and maybe it is. Maybe it is. I felt like, and I don't think of a minute, because I think Rob does a kiss and tell. I definitely think they hooked up. I think, I think something happened in the bathroom. I think, I, they, she was into him. And there's not one person who could convince me that why are you playing a game and your natural reaction is, you're never going to have a girlfriend because you're such a good liar. It's like, yeah, it was hurt on a personal level because she was attracted to him. I agree. I think they definitely had chemistry for sure. And I think that they flirted with each other. And I think that she was interested in the idea. It seemed based on her behavior

28:54and things like the way that she would look at him. And even when he would present her with an opportunity to do something sneakier or naughty that would go against how she had played as a faithful so far, she would do things with her facial expressions where she would like, you go, no, in the end, like smile and look up at him. You know what I'm saying? In a conspiratorial way. So there were things that would lead us to believe that they definitely had some sort of chemistry beyond just being players of the same game. You know what I'm saying? Why would your hands dust in the middle of the day? And why would you even be thinking about him dating a girl, not being able to date a girl? Because why are you even thinking about his character in this moment and all that? You just lost almost a quarter of a million dollars. You know what I'm saying? You thinking about this motherfucker not having a girlfriend moving forward? That lets us know what your mind was on salt. But listen, there are two people that obviously find each other attractive. They in the house, they're grown.

29:55That's exactly what they're supposed to be able to have the freedoms to do. And so if something did happen, she had good form. I know I'd have been trying to have somebody bag my pipes if I was in Scotland. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Well, well, well. 30 days of long time. Yes. 30 days of long time, man. I don't know. back. I got to have my pet by all to think about the bag parts. But yes. I got to have my pipes bag. You know what I'm saying? Leave it up to dust. It's all they do something a little differently. That's why this is all patriotic. I love it. So Rob won $220,000. And look, it was well

31:08deserved. I am now an official fan of traders. I'm going to watch every season. Yes. The way he played the game, they are saying, Dustin, and you're the only person that I can ask this to because you were watching us as day one. Okay. They are saying he's the best traders that ever play the game. Would you mean uninterrupted, you know, he had an uninterrupted, you know, just rain of terror on that show essentially from day one as a trader and nobody got in his way and survived. So I think that that is remarkable. And yes, he's one of the best to ever do it. One of the best to ever do it. Shout out to talk to Rob. Good job. Good game. I love the love story. I'll talk to give us with Mara and him. I was into it. I was into it. Now we got to get into the reunion. This may be an unpopular opinion. And listen, a lot of it could be my personal bias in terms of watching

32:14reunions since I was a kid. Obviously flavor of love reunions, you know, celebrity apprentice reunions. Of course, housewives reunions reunions. I host. I think reunions are meant to be the most dramatic moments of television. I love the way you set this up. Now go ahead and let them have it Carlos. I was highly underwhelmed with this reunion. Yeah. I and listen, I do think the producers of traders did intentionally to remove anything that felt too housewifey, dramatic, what we're used to for a reunion. And they wanted to, in my opinion, protect the Emmy award, winning brand of traders. This is this is an elevated show. We don't get down and dirty. But when I say to you, this could have been on zoom. I mean, but no shade to that because one of the best

33:16reunions in history is a man of housewives on zoom. You know, so I can't even say that. This could have been a postcard. I was so underwhelmed and don't give me started dusting on the fact that why wasn't Candace next to Andy when she got farther than Lisa Rena. But I had to say this was the most underwhelming reunion I've ever seen based on how excellent this show was. I agree. And the people who really ruined it for me were Michael Rappelport looking haggard and disheveled with them. The Ferris Bueller's last day as clothes on. He had on and shit. The breakfast club pretty and he was dressed like he was in pretty in pink. You know what I'm saying? 16 candles. That's what he was dressed like. He got his ass. 16 not carriages, baby. And if they are, I hope they run over. But but then so he was up there trying to argue and live out this fantasy of arguing with a housewife and a reunion, which is really there's a lot deeper conversation.

34:21We can have about that, but this ain't that show. So let's keep it like, but he was really just trying to argue with them women and stuff and living on this fantasy saying clip like Dorenda, but in the process of him doing that, he was over talking women, being aggressive and combating with these women. And it just didn't land it to me. Another person who had a nasty evil ass spirit and energy over them was Travis Kelsey, Mama, Mama Kelsey. I didn't like how she was talking to Portia. I didn't like that. I didn't like how she was talking to Portia. I didn't like her. She was too. Sometimes people can exhibit a willingness to be combative and confrontational that is unnecessary and it really stands out. You know what I'm saying? It's robust and it's fluorescent essentially, right? It's easy to identify. And that nasty mean spirit as edge was pregnant was pregnant was present and pregnant up. I'm not going to say it like the top of the show. Go

35:29ahead. We need to record that show where we say all that stuff. But anyway, um, you could just see that nasty ass mean spirit up underneath that uh, whisk broom ass lampshade wig. She bob hair she had in her head. You know what I'm saying? And she still look like Bruce Valange. I don't care what nobody says. She still look just like Bruce Valange. And I did not appreciate her energy and her spirit on that couch. I did not like how she was talking to Portia. Portia may have been a little bit out of her depth here. You know what I'm saying? But that's neither here nor there. Who are you to fucking tell her that and arguing with Portia's obviously trying to just engage you? When else would you be talking? Never. So I just didn't like that. I didn't like Mama Kelsey's attitude. And I damn sure didn't like Robert Roberts. Michael rapper poor attitude. I didn't like his either. Oh gosh, that's that. Okay. I need a moment. I actually need a moment. Hold on.

36:34Wow. Okay. Kiss me off, man. Well, clearly, uh, you call the Bruce. Uh, yeah. Bruce Valange. Twin. I literally must have blocked it for my memory when you said it weeks ago. Just like Bruce Valange. It's the visual picture for me in my mind. In my mind, y'all, I created that side by side photo. Don't make me pull them up again. Oh my god. Do you show y'all, if you missed it in the last episode, let me show y'all who Mama Kelsey is. Like, bam. Now you tell me, you tell me Mama Kelsey don't look like Bruce Valange. You tell me that that's not Mama Kelsey. Lose. Thank you. Are you talking shit? Leave Portia alone because Portia got a Mama too. So you don't want Mama Diane to sit up there on that couch. Okay. In some aloe. Oh, because while you know Mama Diane, she'd come up there with some blue, blue lemon on your ass.

37:37You know what I'm saying? And a Balenciaga sneaker with a stack tube sock. You know what I'm saying? She'll get up there. Okay. Mm-hmm. I'm like, how are you talking to Portia? How are you talking to Portia now? I'm a Diane. Don't play that shit. So she's, so she'll get up there in a set. A sports bar set and some leggings and a zip cardigan. Okay. And tell your ass up Mama Kelsey. You watch. Are you talking to Portia? I appreciate that. Oh my lord. Grudgy tube socks. It's just. Yeah, a scrunchy tube sock and a Balenciaga sneaker in the aloe set. Mama Diane fine. Shit. Y'all. That's why I be clear baby. Okay. The body's body. It's not yet as everything. So you watch it Mama Kelsey. Um, okay. Microbap report. Yeah. It's and listen. You and I are from the school of, we appreciate

38:45your billets. You know, like, we don't mind a billet. A jacket. A Jackie Christy. Yes. A King or more. Yes. Um, I'm going to say. I can't. It's delivered. Candid's dealer. You know what I'm saying? The list goes on and on and on in terms of people who are seen as villains that are like, listen, I mean, I like your real life. I'll give a fuck. Oh, TV. You're entertaining. And I'm not worried because it's a vacation. Yes. Yes. Michael Rappelport is so cringy and thirsty. And in the words of Jocelyn Hernandez, the KK, um, need some milk to get them both strong. Okay. Because I just. I forgot about that episode. Maybe. Jocelyn. I'm telling you. Jocelyn. Yeah. I got you thirsty. You thrifty. All of them. Michael Rappelport. I bought a Chanel bag. What'd she say?

39:55Yes. But yes, you're 100% right. Okay. We love billets. Jocelyn Hernandez. That's really not. Mm-hmm. Broly, bitch. We love billets. Okay. Well, I'll say it. Mm-hmm. I honestly don't care to see him on TV. He has reached a pinnacle where he's not even enjoyable to watch, to look at, to listen to. And the thing about is this, Andy actually likes them in real life. And that's fine. You can even tell Andy was annoyed like why are you. In my opinion, I felt like Andy looked at Michael Rappelport and was like, what Bravo Con attendee snuck in here and is living out there while this dream of being on a reunion stage. And they're reciting clip, clip from Dorenda. That's what did it. That's what pissed Andy off right there. Yeah. When he started going clip, clip, clip when he was,

41:00when he didn't do it once and then laugh like it was a car back to Dorenda's moment and show her some love. Yeah. He kept doing it and it was clear that he was dead serious while he was using that word that irritated Andy. Yeah. And anyone that has worked with, anytime you work with a project that is old to you but new for people over and over again, you have to experience people's reactions to something over and over again. And that can kind of get irritating sometimes. Not in a way that means anything other than it's just like anything that's repetitive and you get too much of, you tired of it at a point, right? So I think that people using housewives, quotes, housewives lines, recalling big moments like that. Andy's probably sick of people doing that to be honest. Yeah. And so Michael Rappelport bringing those kind of antics into a space where the pros are all these people who actually make the TV and stuff and they're not acting like that. He's acting like a person that's not used to being in the space that was probably irritating and

42:02you could see it on Andy's face. He was disgusted. He was, he was, he was irritated in the moment. That's what he was. Yeah. And, and you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you spelled it out in terms of, I'm pretty sure every day of his man's life, walking to get coffee, taking his kids school, whatever, he has to hear that. And the thing is, again, when it comes to traders, what was obvious in this one part reunion that should have been to, that they didn't want that energy to be there. They, and listen, fine, I, I understand that from a producer standpoint, you want your show to be set apart from housewives, although you understand the necessary evil of having housewives on this show to get the viewership. But that's something on there. You could tell Andy was annoyed by because even he as a host and trying to set this reunion apart from his day job. And for somebody who he knows, behave in a way where he's

43:03like, you know better, you exactly like what are you doing here? And even Porsche, who is a veteran and can't help herself giving a housewife moment or can this for that, for that matter too, it at least is expected from them, right? Like we expect that from them and low key, we want that from them, but we don't want that from this middle age fan. And it was cringy. And like you said, it's one thing to say at once, you said it to Porsche, to Johnny, to, it was, I don't want to see him on TV anymore. I'm good. I wanted to be like, would you shut the fuck up? That's, I wanted to surrender to start going off. You know how she, she, she started going side to side when she geared, started going, would you shut the fuck up? That's what I wanted her to do. I was hoping like, please send me to rent about to pipe up from behind in that seat back there, but she didn't do it.

44:04And I know, listen, you heard Andy verbatim say the words, this isn't a housewives reunion. Yeah. He said that to Michael on the stage. So I think you're 100% right again in your expert opinion as a producer and a creator. You know that they are trying to separate. They're trying to have some individuality for this show that is its own thing. It's already its own. It's already huge, but they wanted to turn into a huge, you know, force that is just as big as the force that is the real housewives. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's the traders. So it's its own thing. So when you bring that energy and you're not a housewife. It's one thing for Porsche, Durinda, Candice and Caroline to bring that energy to the stage. You're not a housewife. I almost caught him something that he's not. You're not a housewife, Michael. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It just didn't work. For period protection, you can put on and forget about

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49:15moment in time that was great. Does it mean that they have to constantly be used to be on television? I think Michael days are I do not want to see him again. There's nothing else he could be on. Dance with the stars. Don't thank you. Um, honestly, feel factor. I don't, I don't give it. I don't want to blend in with the experiments. If he's going to fear factor, he's going to be right over with some tarantulas and bugs and slugs and shit and rolling around and feed and hay and all that and saw dust. You know what I'm saying? That's where he belongs, man. Just not on my TV screen. That's all now. What did you think about Rob versus Candice? I mean, look, obviously Rob is cool as a cucumber because he feels like I just I played the game well and and that that's all I have for you. Like I played the game well. Candice obviously feels hurt as she should because he betrayed his fellow traders. One thing that Rob did say that I was like,

50:22okay, Rob, you aim our girl up a little bit. A little bit. A little bit. It's when he said, you did it preserve yourself. You ended yourself. And I was like points made like points made because at the end of the day, he knew I have these people in my back pocket. So the one thing you should do is get on my team. And I think Candice realized at the end of the day, his loyalty wasn't to hurt the moment he, I'm sorry, the moment she said his name. That's the problem. If you follow the pattern of everyone who Rob quote unquote betrayed, there was an assumption of loyalty or an assumption of allegiance that these people had when it came to him. And they should have been playing him first. Every single case, they should have played Rob first. I don't

51:24know why Lisa and then Candice did not immediately say like, okay, yeah, it's a three of us. And then immediately break off all right girl. We got to get this other nigga. I'm saying it's just us also as we get a lot of hair. Be cutthroat. This is the traders. And that's what you have to do. And Rob was cutthroat with every single relationship he formed on it with people on that cast down to the end down tomorrow. And so that was that greatly aided him and successfully, you know, completing this this game. And so you can't be mad at it. The people was looking for a friend. And Rob was batting his eyes and allowing them to think they have one. And then knocking them down like dominoes one after another on his way on his path to victory. That's just that simple. So I'm not mad at Rob at all. Actually, he did. He quite literally did what he was supposed to do. Do you believe the accusation that Candice made when she said that Colton told her that Rob

52:28told him that Candice was a trader. Yeah, because I would have told you. I mean, let's keep it real. You know what I'm saying? I definitely would have been like, you know what I'm saying? Come on. So yeah, I absolutely believe it. And Colton didn't deny that. You know what I'm saying? When Candice said Colton told her that Colton didn't deny telling him that. And Rob never really, I mean, Colton didn't deny saying that Rob told him that. And Rob never really said I didn't tell him your trader. He just kind of reshaped the intention of the conversation. So I absolutely believe it. And Candice is hilarious for bringing it up. I like Candice. I'm just going to tell you kind of like the housewives was what it was or whatever, but this you got to

53:29see so much more of her personality. The fun side like this. It's just a much more clear picture of who she is. And I like Candice. So because obviously traders have ended, obviously it goes without saying Candice is the breakout star. Yeah. I'm just on her podcast with her Michael. Shout out to my boy Michael Arson. Oh, yes, Michael Arson. Yes, Michelle is to investigate it. And one thing we talked about was listen arguably Candice is the breakout star of traders. And a lot of people who watch traders do not watch housewives. Do you think she should go back to housewives or do you think she needs to follow different paths? But you just you said something in terms of like there's this, you know, comedic timing she has this wittiness and you appreciate it. And it's

54:31fun to watch. Do you feel like you didn't see that on her years of being a batomic? No, I didn't see it on her years of being a batomic. But the reason looking back as a viewer, the reason we didn't get to see that from Candice is because she was defending herself against things that she had a right to, you know what I'm saying? And so sometimes when you're defending yourself and you clapping back at somebody, you're not going to show the best parts of you that will, well, you will than me because I like people that can tear them off the fuck up. But for most people, that's not like attractive. So, you know, you don't have the appeal per se. This was a totally different environment. What I like to see Candice go back to Potomac sure, because I think that Candice is love her, haters, like her on the show or not, she was integral to the fabric of what the real house, so I was a Potomac is today. And she helped build that house. 100%. You can't deny that at all. I would love to see her come back to the show, but I also feel like she's on the brink of so many

55:35other things that if she does come back to the show, that will just be one thing in her portfolio of new projects because I feel like Candice is about to really be out here. She pumping her music out and she was already making progress with that before the traders. And so now the traders plus the wonderful announcement we saw of her getting signed a CAA, like I mean, come on, which if there was, she got the ball down the court and dribbled it and shot it straight through the hoop, nothing but net. That is what you're supposed to do with the opportunity like being on the traders. You finesse that and parlay that into a bigger portal for you to walk through into other opportunities. And so that's literally what she did. She's a smart, smart woman and nobody has ever been able to take that from her. So I would love to see her come back, but I don't think that I also am very interested to see what else she does. So I feel like she can always come back. She left such a mark on Potomac that I feel like she'll always

56:38be relevant to what's going on on this show. So what do you think about the other fake falls in terms of, you know, the reunion pretty much it was about, of course, Rob winning, him and Candace, you know, Colton, Alissa Rennett thing wasn't big. And listen, Alissa Rennett did say it got so bad he walked off set. They probably won't air it, but let me tell you what happened anyway. And she was right. They didn't air it. So I felt like when he get a chance to see a lot from even our girl Tiffany. I felt like I didn't hear much of my girl who had a lot to say about how she was banished. Tiffany, I think out of the faithful, she did get the most camera time out of like the faithfuls to me. She was one of the faithfuls that got a lot of camera time. We didn't, although we didn't hear a lot of her reflection on her parts of the story and her experience, the camera, Tiffany's pretty, okay? And so the camera

57:43was finding its way to her when the whole cast, the ensemble cast was on the stage. And I was happy about that. I was happy that they kept putting the camera on her. I was happy that they were allowing some, because there's some people like, I don't really remember Tara and Johnny saying anything. I don't really remember Natalie saying a lot. I don't really remember, I don't even remember the guy's name. The first ride, the other ride. You know, it's a lot of people I don't remember, but I remember Tiffany's dress. Beautiful black dress with the sheer and the the floral. She had beautiful black woman hair. You know what I'm saying? She look gorgeous and I like that. So although I wish we would have gotten more about her reflections on her experience there, her story and how she felt about them doing her wrong and how she cussed Colton's ass out at that table, I wish we could have dug deep into that. But like you said, the reunion should have been two parts. It wasn't that one part was not sufficient. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So

58:44Dustin, this concludes our Trader's recap. Thank you so much. I know. Listen, my brother, I still have mine. But the thing is this, we will come back and do this. Yes, we will. Yes, we will. Hell yeah, we will. Okay. But before I let you go, Dustin, I need your predictions. Now, I'm not going to ask you the name, the 23 potential candidates will be part of next season. But what I will ask you is this, we know that only four housewives, former recurrent, are allowed to be on Traders, which four housewives with Dustin Ross like to see a part of someone. And I'll tell you mine too. Can you more?

59:50Meredith Marx. Okay, I got two more. Yeah. Ebony K Williams. And my fourth one for Traders would be, damn, let me think of somebody who would be good but not necessarily smartest. Because we need a little of that. You know what I mean? Marlowe Hampton. Marlowe Hampton. Yep. So Kenya Moore, Meredith Marx, Ebony K Williams. I love you, Ebony. And Marlowe Hampton. Yep. That's good. Yeah. That's a good lead. That's a good lead. Okay. So that's Dustin's list. All right. Here's Kratos King's list of the four housewives that I would like to see on season five, former recurrent. Okay. Mimi Leakes. Yes. I need you to say yes,

1:00:52she's supposed to be on this sidebar. I hope you all realize Mimi was supposed to be on this season. And what I'm not going to do is tell y'all who replaced her. I'll tell you, Dustin. Which is the easy to predict. Okay. So I'll say Nini Leakes. Preston Minkoff and Bentley Hills. Yes. Wonderful choice. Right. I think she'll be very sliced, smart, all the things. Okay. My third choice. I got to take one from Dustin, because I'm like smart play, Ebony K Williams. Yes, Lord. She will wear that round table. Oh, I was just, I was just about to say she will read down at the round table. So I'm still going to leave one from Dustin. That was a good one. I didn't think about that. That was that happening. Ebony K Williams. Definitely should be on that one for sure. And I actually agree with

1:01:58Dustin. The fourth one. Can you more? Yeah. Can you more 100% 100%. So she needs to come back. I got to watch your show. The next show that you do with those those really smart attorneys that you do the legal news with. Oh, yeah. What are their names to Carlos? I don't want to. Oh, we got just tyranny and Courtney Marker. Both of them are brilliant. I want to see y'all talk about this new development with the Brit Edie shit. And how? Yeah. So I'm interested in. Yeah. Yeah. I'm interested in. I figured y'all were going to pick that up. And I'm interested in seeing them break that down because I want to know what that means about what happens next for Kenya, what that means about Brit's connection to the Bravo version, all that other stuff. So I'll be watching it. Well, thank you for that. And the reason why I'm so thrilled to have it broken down for me too is because Brit dropped the lawsuit in New York. And I want to say what she did was

1:03:03refound the federal level in Georgia if I'm not mistaken. And I may have all that wrong. But my point is, just tyranny is a sitting Atlanta judge. Okay. So in Georgia law, she's able to break it down for us. And I am confused about why it was dropped. But she also brought this into it. I'm lost. And I know a lot of people are trying to make sense of it. But no, I want just tyranny to break it down in terms of like what does really mean? Why she did it this way? What are her plans that we can sort of like predict exactly? Yeah. So yeah, we got to find out what the hell is going on. So I'll be tuning in. And I know the Oscars are coming up. I can't wait to find. And I want an award season recap from you and Marlowe anyway about the awards seasons, fashions and shit. I want a deep dive. Then Marlowe fashion episodes need to be like an hour and a half long. I have notes. So I'm just going to text you. Always text me. You know, I love you. I listen,

1:04:08getting those from you will be everything because I love you too, because I'll be watching that shit and I love it. So that's what I'm saying. I might notice that I want more. That's yes. No, well, I appreciate that. Marlowe is folly back up in Atlanta. She turned 50, which is a milestone. You looking good in jail, by the way. Look at amazing. So Marlowe was on a world tour celebrating her birthday. She literally doesn't text me today and saying, okay, baby, I'm back. We'll be doing it. Okay. Good. Good. Good. Good. Yeah. We want a whole recap. You know, it's been a lot of stuff. I want to know. She thought about Porteous Trader's Dress. I want to know what she thought about Candace's Trader's Dress for the reunion. I want to really want to know what she thought about Morris Trader's Dress for the reunion. So it'll be interesting to see. Look, I'll be watching. I love you for a brother. You know that. I love you too, man. And guys, you'll be watching us on Monday night live. Okay. We are back on Monday. We are going to recap part three of the Potomac reunion bell collective. And of course,

1:05:13the most pressing news and reality television. So we'll see you guys there. One last thing before we get out of here. Yes. God is so good. My show sold out here in New York on March 17th on St. Patrick's Day. But because of that, we're doing a second show that same night. So I'm going to do two shows that night. So those tickets are on sale now. Go to Dustin Ross live.com. And you can get your tickets. Come to the 930 show because you're never going to be good in tipsy. So come on. Come on to the show. Guys, listen, I went to his Atlanta show. He also did two like that. He sold out of Atlanta. Let me tell you all something. What you're getting even in this traitors recap. I mean, the clips, the commentary, the Bruce Balanch of it all, like, imagine getting that for an hour plus while he's on stage, giving him his all. He is so funny. And the best part about it to me is

1:06:15when I was at the Atlanta show, just sitting there with my friends and watching a sold out crowd marble at you and laugh with you and seeing you control the stage. And listen, it goes without saying you were born for this. Thank you, man. Maybe the rain. I love you. They love excited. I love them too. The much love to the raindrops melody rain down on me. I love the raindrops. Thank you. So thank you, those. Yeah, all the time, all the time. I'll see you Monday, bro. Love you. Have a good weekend. Love you too, man. Peace out. Reality with the King is executive produced by me, Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz and a partnership with the Black Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube channel at B. Carlos King underscore.

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