On the Sheet: Dennis King

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1:04There are no subscriptions, no long-term commitments. You just pay per session. Grow connects you with thousands of high-quality licensed therapists across the US, offering both virtual and in-person sessions, nights and weekends. You can search by what matters, like insurance, specialty, identity, or availability, and you can book a therapy session in minutes and begin in as little as two days, not the national 48-day average. See if you could pay as little as $0 for therapy in seconds at growtherapy.com-startnow. That's growtherapy.com-startnow. Growtherapy.com-startnow. Availability and coverage vary by state and insurance plan. We are about to bring on a hockey Twitter legend. We are about to bring on a Stanley Cup champion scout, formerly of the Carolina Hurricanes. He's kind of like, there's a number of people, players,

2:04and I was just jotting down and trying to figure out which ones would come to mind. Yaroslav Puzar played 186 games in the NHL, four seasons, anyone three Stanley cups. Yuri Hardina played five seasons and won three Stanley cups, one with Calgary and two with Pittsburgh. So as far as making your entry into the pool, winning the ultimate prize and then getting out, that is the story so far for hockey, Twitter, legend, and Stanley Cup champions scout, Dennis King, who makes his first appearance here on the sheet. Dennis, first of all, thanks so much for being a board. And second, congratulations on winning the Stanley Cup. What does it mean to be a Stanley Cup champion the first time you're in? Do you have Yaroslav Puzar or Yuri Hardina type vibes about yourself right now? This hockey stuff is easy. Well, I mean, I guess if you have, if you went up in the right organization right off the

3:05bat, it's kind of easy. But you know, I mean, there's not much I can, you know, I was in the in a spot with a team where they kind of, they were close and not like always the extra element or anything. You were the, you were the, you were the final piece of the puzzle, Dennis, clearly. Yeah, for sure. Hang on, get your, get your camera. There we go. There we go. We got you. The enemy of technology, Dennis King, there we go. All right, we're locked in. Um, first, Caroline and Hurricane specifically, and I'll think of someone, it was funny. I was mentioning Ellen Echinkham the other day here on the show. Carolina under Eric Tulski does things a little bit differently. I don't think that Ellen herself ever thought that she would end up scouting for an NHL team. But now she's a Stanley Cup champion scout as well. How did you get the gig originally? Like, how did this all come to be? I guess I was, you know, friends with Tulski for a very long time.

4:09He blogged when I was kind of blogging too. Yeah. So him and I had stayed in touch and occasionally, whenever he would, as he, as he got promoted and, you know, if Carolina would make a move, he might reach out to me and say, what do you think of this player? What are we getting in this player? Especially in situations when they made a move with the others because obviously I've been an older fan forever. So I know that team pretty well. Then, Eric and I just would talk about random things with just with players, League and about a year before I was on, he kind of reached out and said, you know, thinking about a horror and other scat would you be interested if so? And I said, yeah, absolutely. He was getting in touch with me and we'll see how it goes. And I'm a pretty, you know, easy-going guy. If I never, if I didn't hear from Eric afterwards, I would have been like, oh, okay. And what I did and then I did the, you know, a couple of months interview process and hard last July jumped into it.

5:15They were great. I mean, they did a great job of nurturing me, just giving me a lot of resources and kind of letting me go. And, you know, I would have some ideas and they're like, okay, this is some merit. This doesn't have some merit. And we just kind of went from there. And I mean, as I said, I'm just in the right place at the right time. And this camera stuff is awful, Jeff, hold on. That's all right. No problem. Yeah. We can send someone over there to hold the camera for you if you need for the next appearance. And in the meantime, it's the solo act. Yeah, no, but anyway, so I, yeah, so I mean, I just kind of went from there and very supportive. As I said, very nurturing, you know, those guys that don't miss when it comes to player acquisition. Then when she gets it, would you get inside it and do what they have to use? Fantastic. Well, that's the thing too. I mean, Tulski was on after the hurricanes won the Stanley Cup. And one thing he said, and he said, like, look, I'm not always going to bat a thousand. But we turned over 12 players and I went 12 for 12.

6:16I'm not always going to go 12 for 12. This organization is not going to go 12 for 12. But we just went 12 for 12. I want to bounce around a bunch of hockey topics with you and get your thoughts on the oilers. McDavid with a hell of a night last night, specifically. But what did you learn from your time there? I mean, I'm sure that everybody goes into it thinking, you know, I know what's going on. And then you realize, hold on a second here. I didn't know about this. I didn't know about that. And this has changed my perspective on all of it. Did you have those moments where you're like, yeah, because it's inevitable, right? Because you're dealing with a whole bunch of different people and sharing ideas. What are some of the things that you that you gleaned from working with people who had been with your organization for a while? More on Saturday number one thing I learned was, you know, just how fantastic of a leader Eric was. And basically about how you could come to a consensus, unopinion. You know, we would have meetings and Eric is just kind of like sitting back. We're discussing various players.

7:17We all have different opinions, different viewings and Eric is taking notes. Eric is nodding. And then afterwards he's got a great summation. And you know, he goes. So it's kind of a really cool, really cool view into calm and and stoic leadership. And the kind of things, there's only so much I could say, obviously, yeah, of course. So I don't want Eric to send the the black ops team to my house. So you know, I'm like, I'm having trouble with a camera. So can you imagine what I do with assassins? But I know you kind of, I guess Jeff seems strange to say, because I'm older, but I was at the kind of the infancy of analytics. So this is how I learn to evaluate players. Same when I get in there and I get all the access to their video. Now I can kind of burnish that. Would a look at, okay, this guy's number is good.

8:20Why is it good? And you trail that on habits and tendencies, strengths and weaknesses. And now you know, okay, this is what this organization looks for. This is something that they really don't like. And that really, I mean, they do such a great job at that. Like it really steals your focus. In terms of who you select. You come to an idea early, okay, this guy is good and he can play. He can't play for Carolina. You know, it must be fascinating too. And I'm sure that it affects all of your hockey watching subsequently. But we know one of the things that I've always looked at with the Carolina Hurricanes is, A, you have to be able to think quickly. You have to work hard. I mean, that's a that's a non-negotiable with with Rod Rindimore. You have to work hard. You have to think quickly and you have to be an excellent athlete to play with this team. As far as like looking at players around the NHL,

9:20does that meet the standard you think of who could play for the care? Because I think you're right. Not everybody can play for that team. That is a very, very challenging way to play. A very challenging way to play in the playoffs. And not everyone can do it. But think fast, wildly athletic and work hard. Does that seem to fit the bio of a Carolina Hurricanes player? Well, I mean, kind of seeing it right now with the Overseas, where there was a lot of discourses this summer about the Overseas would like to emulate some of the best of the Carolina's practices, which I hardly endorse. First thing is the full buy-in from Brynimore, which I mean, you don't really get that through out the league, not that at extent. The other thing is, yes, it's conditioning. I mean, Edmonton was kind of, we'll see, maybe it's a ball product of not having a stable forward core, but there's some situations now where a couple of players are trying to play

10:23this pressure system at Babcock, it's installing, and it's kind of like it's, it's not even, and it's not smooth. So I don't know if it's a thing where they're kind of not trusting everything yet, or I don't know if the exterior isn't there from the feet perspective, but what kind of seed? But, yeah, you're right. I mean, when I look, think back to that roster, I mean, sometimes you don't have to be super smiling. Your brain can put you in a spot almost as quick as your feet can. You know where to go, so that means you don't have to be as athletic, but there's probably not more to motor two guys like that on that roster. That roster was built for conditioning, built for speed, built for stops and starts. And as I said, I'm going to see what the oilers now is, they're trying to eat that system somewhat. It's not that easy. Let me get there, because we just saw, listen, we just saw trade. Philip Hollenberg goes from the Pittsburgh Penguins to the Edmonton Oilers. My first thought when I first saw it and Spencer Stasting goes the other way to defenseman.

11:27My first thought when I saw it was they're bringing in someone for the PK. When you see the oilers make a move like that, what go because mine is just like, oh, yeah, he's in for the PK. Not the best skater, but it works hard, et cetera, et cetera. When you see a move like that, what goes through your mind? I'm sure you're thinking at a different level. Okay, this is what Edmonton's trying to do here. It's part of a pattern that it's not just random. Well, I see that they've kind of changed like the composition of their bottom six will be guys who basically keep the score even. And if you finish Monaster, where you finish plus two, I mean, that's fine because I'll top, you know, hopefully when everybody is back, you have a cross-idelined one line, McDabin on the other, and this is where you make your hay in terms of five on five differential. So how nervous is a guy is going to be looked at as low a vent. You know, he'll do his work on the boards. He'll be there. When you move the puck up the side, he'll be able to get it out, transition it out, or, you know, he'll be able to chip it out. He'll be able to take that. He's a bigger body so we can take that pressure with a

12:30defensive and pinch. For instance, the way that, you know, Florida has their defense and just coming down the boards would abandon. And someone those guys are going to be in a club. And a club. Yes, exactly. And, you know, it kind of really put a dent in the Overse breakout in both years. So how nervous a guy who theoretically can stick up to that pressure. And he's also going to have to get some of the boards. He'll dig in and he'll win some battles. And yes, he has the aptitude to kill pennilies. So the Overseer are basically going to look for that third and fourth lawn that just be gauze that just keep the score even. You know, nothing happens when they're out there and you let the big guys make a difference. So it's funny too. There are some things we've seen this historically that'll go into a playoff series or just an individual game. And they'll say, you know what, we're just going to play 50-50 puck all game and take our chances with the power play. If you're Edmonton, are you then suggesting that the idea is bottom six

13:32plays 50-50 puck and you just wait until Connor and Leon catch their breath? Yeah, and I mean, I'm not saying that that's a bad philosophy at all. I mean, there's certain there's different ways to win the cup. I mean, you know, you could go back. The first thing that I think about it is, well, the, you know, one of the things because I went back, you know, just bored one day and said, okay, like, you know, had his, had his, his, his, sausage get made. You wouldn't believe the, like, the low number for Maulkin and Crosby plus Monus when they won the cup. They made the major separation on the third line because you had those top two lines that were facing the top competition and then third line gets out against third line and they make the difference. So for the Oilers, what they kind of look to do, I think, will be taking some will probably take half of the hard minutes and draw a title, or McDabby, it'll take the other half. So it's, what I mean, as I said, there's different ways to do with, you know, Florida did it with

14:34Laundale and Barcaf, primarily Barcaf, getting all the tough matchups and then Bennett and Cichucco come out and play against the third lines and, and make their head, but would Edmithen hopefully, one of everybody is healthy, it's draw a title in pod goals and his one pair, McDabby and Harmon as the other and then you'll have your Savoy sprinkle in there. Maybe Alex to break it, who knows? To break it. To break it. And then your third line will be Dickinson Kaepernand Fredrick just trying to say like, oh, at the end of the year, Monus 2 plus 2, whatever. And that's how you win. That's how they'll try to win. I can't be the lead here. So you think that that's it? That's a target for Edmithen? Old Jeff Jackson client? Well, Jeff Jackson client, Stan Bowman obviously looks Americans. You have the idea that Detroit is basically, I mean, just kind of whispers now, maybe Detroit will

15:37kind of look to build around, say to side and Raymond cluster. So why would they keep the Brinket to be conapyred of that? And of course, Edmithen's primary trade ship would be a guy who played his college hockey in Michigan. Hang on a second here. So you think that that is like, first of all, how would that work for Edmithen? Let's just get ahead of ourselves here. Alex, Alex to break it joins the Edmithen all this. How does how does that work? Well, Isaac Howard and 800 first ramparts? No, I'm not saying like, I'm not saying like how that would come together. I'm more thinking like, who would you put them with? How would that work with the with the Oilers mix? Because I think that's a fascinating player to stick on the Edmiths and Oilers. Oh, he would play with, he would play with Mick David and Harmon. Harmon goes in those to work. He's the F1. The Brinket comes in,

16:39digs around a little bit, support, try to fish the puck out, or Mick David does it, and the Brinket goes and hangs around the face off circles and downward. I think it would war and the Brinket is not terrible defensively. He's kind of good enough to ways that he's just not, he's not empty calories, you know what I mean? So I think that would be like kind of a perfect match. Obviously, there's had to be some money, you know, some retention and then some money to go go out, but we'll take care of that later, but I'm just saying if you could give me somebody that I think could just like step in there and it would kind of be seamless, that would be the guy. And you know, just to get back to it. Basically, once I see the Oilers split Mick David and draw a cycle and once they can do that and play against the better teams and win, well, that's when you kind of know that they're ready to win because, you know, honestly, this is often another tangent.

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19:45150 by Sun Devices Countway Activation Team. Not available with foot-match or T-mobile in the past 180 days. Therapy's biggest impact doesn't show up in some dramatic breakthrough. It shows up in the smallest moments. You bite your tongue instead of escalating. You put your phone down instead of firing off that text. You say what you actually mean instead of what would hurt someone else the most. Nobody applauds those moments but they quietly change your life. That's what growing feels like and that's exactly what growth therapy is here for. Grow is therapy that works covered by insurance. Sessions average $21 with insurance and some pay as little as $0 depending on their plan. There are no subscriptions, no long-term commitments, you just pay per session. Grow connects you with thousands of high-quality licensed therapists across the US offering both virtual and in-person sessions nights and weekends. You can search by what matters. Like insurance, specialty, identity or availability and you can book a therapy session in minutes and begin in as little as

20:48two days, not the national 48-day average. See if you could pay as little as $0 for therapy in seconds at growtherapy.com slash startnow. That's growtherapy.com slash startnow. Growtherapy.com slash startnow. Availability and coverage vary by state and insurance plan. Pause on that because I mentioned that that you were coming up and this is one of the things I wanted to talk to you about. I also want to talk to you about boring hockey players and how valuable they are. But over the course of 84 games, you mentioned under 20. What could the number be as far as how many games on the calendar do you really learn anything about your team? What's the number for you? Well, you know, in terms of I'll just look at Edmundon. So your games against Vegas and your games against Anaheim. You go to Decentral. I mean, how do you fear against Dallas, Colorado, Utah? And then you have your home and homes in the east with

21:55Florida and Carolina primarily because I mean, I don't know. The Atlantic has got like some good teams. I don't know how many great teams there are. But yeah, those would be just six, seven, the eight teams that you're like, okay, let's see how we do against those teams. And it seems you know, it seems so obvious and simple. And the first time that I came to think about this actually was obviously the exposed fan and the Nileman Nationals fan and the Nationals from 2012 made the playoffs and would always flame it in the first round. And I came to realize that they would win 90 games every year and they would pound the bad teams, but they could never beat the Dodgers. They could never beat the Cardinals, the Giants. And then when you got in the playoffs, those were the teams that you had to beat. So, you know, you and I talked about this a little bit last year and you asked me when I thought of the Oilers and I said, listen, check out their record against these teams. And yeah, I mean, that kind of proved to be actually, well, I mean, injuries didn't help. But yeah, so this is where it gets back to to balance Jeff. The Oilers right now are

23:00basically there's so many injuries that it's like kind of like a house bar and they're just gone after the door and all they took was like the first line. And then we'll share it in the next and they said, we'll go to Walmart tomorrow and get some more clothes. But this is kind of what we're going to do for now. Let me uh, okay, let me, let me, let me, let me, we throw a statement at you. You will never win a Stanley Cup until you have enough boring hockey players. True or false. Yeah, it's hard to debate that right off the bat. I mean, I, you know, I'm thinking about dynastic Oilers and yes, you had those cars who just, and there's not so much boring, I imagine, you know, physical play. It's not always boring. Uh, no, but get excited. Do all the things in between the highlights essentially? I have, I have kids at play and they're nonstop on their phone. And look at this highlight, look at this goal, look at this play and all that. I'm like, yeah, but that's not the game. The game is all the stuff that happens around that that you look at and go

24:04like, well, nothing happened on that shift. Okay, well, and you know, this is where the neutral zone and, and zone entry denials are so important. Everybody will go look at that, uh, draw subtle bomb that breakaway pass from last night, but I tell you, from having watched the oilers for so long, the first thing I noticed is, oh my god, draw subtle is 10 feet below his own blue line. This is fantastic. Right. So to me, it was like, man, I've seen, I've seen draw subtle make these the best pass in in the NHL and has been forever. I've seen that for a super long time. What really impressed me was he was back there providing another layer and another barrier to entry. So yeah, I mean, that's, you know, I've got a buddy who works in the NHL and he said to me one day that the oilers will win when the forwards start caring about what happens when they don't have to buck. Keep in the start on

25:04the ice and the defensive zone. So the zone early, I get it. You know what? Like it looks, it looks like you tell me it looks to me like, Connor McDavid is really trying, even the last thing, just flying everywhere. He's trying to do what Mike Babcock wants him to do. Like pull up under the blue line instead of just like grabbing the puck and getting around the net and circles and looking for lanes and it looks like he's he's really trying to do this. The Babcock way right now. What do you think of this marriage here? Babcock and the others? Yep. A hundred percent degree. There's a ton of work happening off the puck now that didn't never happen before. Very, very impressed, very surprised that that line is bought in immediately and those two guys, Pock Hulsons always been a worker. I'm not really surprised by that. So now the next, the evolution of that Jeff is McDavid and Dr.

26:05Settle Two helmed their own lines and bring that work ethic so that their respective linemates know that this is the standard. And once I see that and I'll know it when I see it and obviously we're living in the age of that bandstats. So you can't lie to us anymore about whatever the process is good or not. If you win four or two when you're expected goals at five on five is like 47 percent, well you're probably Montreal Canadians. But you know, so you can't lie to people. You'll see what you'll see what's what? What do you think of the Habs? Just out of curiosity. I think the Habs are everybody's downling more for cat management than anything else. And to which I mean, yeah, it's it's kind of a really good setup that they've got there with a GM mix with an agent. So who understands better at a value than an agent and they've got some fantastic contracts laid out.

27:06I mean they're at their infancy. The one two series last year where they definitely should not have won one of them and maybe not both. And you see then to go back to the original point about how only a few games matter. I mean, look at their last six games against Carolina. Five games last spring and last night. Like, yeah, this is who you have to beat. And if this is how you show against that team, you know, you're not anywhere close. So I think everybody because of the history and Montreal, because of the style that they play, everybody is kind of in love with that team might become. But it's not it's not there yet. And you knew that from the advanced metrics last year. But of course, what Montreal can do better than anybody else is they'll just find that money. And that they found two endovation and foulder. So that covers a lot of

28:09mistakes. You know, I spent a lot of time betting sports before I ever worked in the NHL. And you kind of got to know at the end of a bet whether you were lucky or unlucky. Montreal was one of the few teams that I could bet Montreal. They could get out shot soundly. And I would be fine with it because price was price. Yeah. Okay. You're right. Like flip the pencil around and use the eraser. It's so let me ask the two teams again, like we've got all watched a handful of games. The two teams that I'm most impressed with so far this season, Vegas and Utah. Those are the teams that out of the gate, I look at and go like, these guys already look like teams. Are my eyes deceiving me? And if so, who do you like so far from what you see? No. Yeah. No. That's an easy column. I mean, Vegas once Vegas got healthy last year. Like Vegas are just solid and steady. They just do the same. Just sort of write things over and over again. The issue with them is like,

29:14you know, how many games will Mark Stone and Carlson be healthy? Everybody talked about how great Mitch Marner was in the playoffs last year. Go look at his numbers with him with that William Carlson, which isn't to say that William Carlson is the ultimate kingmaker, but he certainly appeared to be last spring. There was a big difference in Marner's numbers once Carlson went out. And what's Carlson when I've Carolina had a huge advantage with your matching? So if I'm a Vegas fan, you know, I'm okay, what day to I wake up and Carlson is out for two months and Mark Stone is out for three. And I, you know, to bring it back to the Oler thing, I think that Edmonton might be in that hopefully not, but Edmonton might be hidden in that territory with Zach Hime and then they're lucky that it hasn't happened to echo him yet. But no, if Vegas is solid, yeah, I really like the lines for a really like to forward group for Utah, not overly sold on that defense just yet, but I really like to forward group. Man, I'm telling you who's who's look great, even in the in the specter of two

30:21major injuries and I kind of hate to say it. And but that's Florida. Yeah. And that even though even with Brady Kitchuck and all the Cheerios beside his name. And listen, but even to like, you want to talk about I'll go back to Carolina and you want to talk about a team that's all in and does exactly as their coach tells them their advanced numbers right off the bat and they went into you know, going in on tough building. So right and Carolina opening night and control both games at five on five. And their net bonding was terrible last year. And you know, Zedos move her in a shaker. So yeah, I very impressed with them off the hop. And of course, yes, obviously Vegas and Utah as well. We'll see you about Colorado with the with the depth on defense. You know, that seems to be getting a bit of older too. I don't know. And as I said, with Utah,

31:22I was like, they had like another really, really good defenseman. I mean, I would kind of consider him a bit more, but it's been building there for a long time. So what's kind of a bad time? Okay. Any player that me end on this one. Any players from any of these teams early on that you think everybody is sleeping on like Colorado has always been able to pick off players that other teams don't value enough. Carolina are probably the kings of that, but other other players out there that you look at and go, man, everyone's sleeping on this guy. And it's and it's got to stop. Someone's going to start nuff and find this guy. I would just turn into running and say like, there was a player that might get lost in the mix that I think just kind of really good. It will be Igor cheers off with. Yeah, he's I was kind of watching and what's going to happen in here is like, do you let the tail wag the dog in terms of salary cap allocation? If you have key for sure would

32:24and call and graph and you've signed them long term to considerable money. Where do you think they're going to be slotted? And then of course you also there's a plethora of wingers there. So how does cheers not get into that top six? And if he's only a third line winger, I wonder would he have more value to San Jose as a chair as a trade ship for the defense because if you want to talk about decourse that I'm not sold on, well, do you know the way to San Jose? Are you sold on the gold tending? Well, the extended one one more position too. You sold on the gold tending in San Jose. Like again, it's just one game like they faced off against Dallas. Dallas was due to finally pop and score some goals and they just got steamrolled by the stars. Five cob look completely different completely different without Maclin, Selab reeney. But how do you feel about the gold tending there? Well, I mean, I don't love it. We'll have to see, you know, you're you're

33:24going to have to separate the numbers from the, from the, you know, the shot suppression. You look at that top four, it's nursing, castle ring and truba's, and you know, truba was propped up by Jackson Lecombe last year. So what's he going to look like without him? You got a war live there. You're breaking in that kid, kid from the HLs from BC. So yeah, I was part of you can. I mean, obviously, there's one of the things that I know how to do. You can't go to separate it and say this is the gold tending without without the shot suppression and the goal suppression included. But yeah, no, I'm just it's not their time. I mean, we could have a line conversation. Maybe when I get this camera fixed about whether San Jose should have jumped already. Yeah. And I kind of don't think they should have. But maybe shouldn't say that because maybe I don't want to work for my old friend Mike Greer or something. Do you think it a Luca Cagnoni, by the way? Yes, I watch the NHL,

34:27last year. I like him. It's just I don't know if that's kind of the right spot for him right now. How many, how many guys do you think are legit NHLers who write, well, end on this one, legit NHLers that are sort of trapped in the American league right now? More than you know, I mean, if you kind of I think every coach has got like one guy that he holds on to that could easily be replaced in the AHL. So I mean, you know, you do the math with that, you know, there's probably a six in the seventh defenseman and 11th and 12th forward that you go pull out of the AHL if you kind of wanted to. And I mean, you know, people who might say about nepotism, I got to stand the cup ring because I knew Tuskegee. No. It's good if it works in your favor. You know, it's funny talking about talking about that. And the the the the the the players in the in the American league. I was texting with someone

35:27over the weekend. And we were talking about Amadeus Lombardi, right? Not to pile on Detroit even more here, but we're talking about Lombardi. And he said to me something along the lines of, if the new WizKid general manager on the scene decides to call you to talk about an American league prospect that you have well down your depth chart. It's probably a good idea to hang up instead of looking at your phone and saying, ooh, Nigerian prince, it says on my caller ID, this might work out very well for me. Probably a good idea to put the phone down instead. And now Amadeus Lombardi is in the NHL with the New Jersey Devils. Buddy, thanks so much for stopping by and and doing and and working the technology and everything. Yeah, no, we just have the like we've just got the internet in the Newfoundland three years ago. And it's been really well, what you're going to find is you're going

36:30to find some great old Tully blanchored wrestling matches on YouTube. I highly recommend you spend the rest of your day doing that. And well, no, I appreciate that I was looking for something to do with the rest of the day. Thanks for that, Jeff. Old NWA matches. Thank you, Dennis. We'll talk, we will touch base soon. Thank you, Jeff.

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