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2:00It's going to be Ali Bradley, incredible reporter, Southwest reporter from News Nation, the senior reporter. And she's got some news that she broke about our military sending troops, literal troops to the Rio Grande Valley. And the reason for that is a bunch of drones being sent over by the cartels. So there's an uptick in what's going on there. But again, because you've got President Trump, you've got a situation where the entrance to let the drones come in and more illegal aliens come in. They're going to go and fight it. And that's a very interesting story that we only know about because Ali Bradley broke that story. We'll have her bottom of the tower. Next hour, it's going to be Dr. Ben Carson, part one, Dr. Ben Carson, part two. And hour number three, so we've got a lot coming your way. The president is also going to be speaking in Alabama. And we can take a live feed from there. Polo loves this. We do a live feed from the president because it's dumb button city. Just in case. And the idea is always not great. So it could be better this time. You never see what we'll do it to see if it's going to be better this time, which generally speaking, it's not. Then we also have to be careful to not get any copyrighted music on it.

3:04It's always fun to to to jockey that live. We do it for the people. Polo, we do it for the people. Yes, that we do. But is it fun? Fun in a not very fun way, but it's a Friday. It's a fun Friday. For exactly that's the kind of fun it is. Yeah. By the way, it is free speech Friday, eight or eight nine four one packs, eight eight nine four one seven two four seven Joe packs.com school done click on contact. Love to hear from you. The fallout from not killing this Christopak person continues. And it's exactly what I told you was going to be. Now the left and these idiots that believe that people should not get just punishment with a murder somebody, they're calling for a moratorium on the death penalty period. They want a halt to the death penalty. It's just not fair what you did to her. What I find to be odd is that when when they didn't get the vein allegedly and we're putting the poison into her system, she went to sleep, started snoring a bit, got up. Now she's in critical condition. I'm not sure she's brain dead or what the story is.

4:06But the complaint is that it wasn't human enough. And I said this yesterday, wasn't you mean what she did to that to that woman, her classmate, 30 some odd years ago? Here's the story. And I listen, I called for this yesterday. You know that I did. Don't even start. Calls grow for US death penalty halt after torturous, botched execution of Christophe, Pike alive, but in critical condition, his experts call or deal that unfolded in Tennessee unimaginably barbaric. I wonder how the family of the dead girl feels about what happened to her. Look it up. Look up the detail. I'm not going to get into the gory details again. Look up the details about Christophe. You tell me. Story continues from the Guardian. So it could be fake news. Top lawyers, doctors and members of the faith community. I call him for a moratorium on the death penalty after Tennessee's failed attempt to execute Christophe. Left the prisoner alive, but in critical condition and receiving life saving medical care. Why are they giving her?

5:06Life saving medical care. Did I miss something? The objective was to make her die. Why give her life saving care if the objective is for her to die? I'm confused. You're going to bring her back to really good health and then try to kill her again. I must be missing something. I must be. The recent spade of harrowing botched executions across US death penalty reached a new low laid on Wednesday when Tennessee's governor Bill Lee called off the procedure after pie could be injected with two full syringes of Penta Barbertoll. She's the only person who has survived being administered five grams of the sedative, a massive dose that under normal circumstances has considered fatal. Right. If you get into the vein, they didn't have somebody who could either they didn't have somebody who was competent enough to get into the vein, or they had somebody who was against the death penalty and might have done it on purpose. I don't know which. An hour after the first injection was given she was overheard by a witnesses to still be breathing choking and struggling was found to have a heartbeat. Her lawyer said her current condition and agreed to which she may have been brain damage through oxygen deprivation were as yet unknown.

6:17Sandra Babcock a death penalty scholar at Cornell Law School who advises Pike's legal team told the Guardian that the events that unfolded were unimaginable be barbaric. They demand accountability. Yeah, she should be dead. The person who didn't make her dead should be accountable. I agree. She added that the minimum Lee must now commute Christophex death sentence to life imprisonment. You can kiss my ass. Sentence to death by a jury of her peers and she should die because of what she did. Another of Pike's lawyers Randy Spivey who was president of the death chamber called Pike's or Neal Cruel and torturous. He said he had personally counted seven needles stuck in the Pike's left arm. One of which appeared to be bent when it was pulled from her. Pike 50 was sentenced to death for the brutal. 1995 killing of a teenage class may call a slimmer. She was sent to be the first woman executed in Tennessee more than in more than 200 years. So very little details. Very little details on exactly what she did. Look it up. I don't take my word for it. And I'm not somebody who who has blood dripping from my teeth that I want death.

7:23I want a just punishment. I want retribution from what she did to this innocent person. That's what I want. And as a Christian, I can want that. But it didn't happen. So now they want to commute the sentence to life which is exactly what I said might happen yesterday. They also they also are sitting there saying. Now you should just end all executions period. The only reason you're injecting her with medicine instead of hanging her or shooting her or electrocuting her. Is because of the left idiots that now want it commuted. The same people said it was cruel and unusual to hang somebody. How? That's how they killed people forever. Use the guillotine if you have to. She's a horrible person evil on earth. Somebody wrote to me yesterday. You know what if she found Jesus? What should go meet him soon? It's that simple. And I want you to do the same to me if I killed somebody in the fashion that she did.

8:25I will never kill it somebody out of a malice. I will never just murder somebody because I feel like it. That's never going to happen. I hope they never take a life ever. Now you come and attack my family and my stuff and myself. That's a different story. I hope never to do it. But this is just an inhumane person. Is it right? Do you dislike that I'm about to say I'm okay with her being in pain right now? Maybe she wouldn't be. Have they just done it right? Tim Birchett from Tennessee, US representative. We liked him a lot. He had something to say about this today. But what happens next? I mean, the state tried to kill her twice. She was on death row. And then they took her to the hospital for life saving care. He was on my friend Katie Pavlett's show on News Nation. Two things in conflict with each other. And now she's alive at the hospital. So what is the state to do when she recovers? They proper up and bring her to a foreign squad. I think that's that should be we need to we need to like just light your just a step forward.

9:29We can use the electric chair was used the last few years. And there's question whether it's Krillin and Human Punch Me here that all the time. Well, the fire and squad and hanging are 100 percent. I've never heard of them not being. And let's just let's get to something that works and let's do it. Get away from the drugs. That's been problematic from the start. I was in the legislature when they legalize that and when we moved away from the electric chair. But we'd use the electric chair in the last few years. And it's been successful. So I think either you go there either either that or hanging or or fire and squad like I said. Fire and squad you put seven people up there. You give five of them bullets to blanks. You put a you put them 30 feet away and you put something over their heart. And they know where they get and they go. That's it. You get the punishment that the jury said you deserve. I'm not sure I understand because they didn't properly kill her. That's the argument to no longer do the death penalty. Had they killed her then you wouldn't argue to get rid of the death penalty?

10:32And I made mention of this yesterday. Of course the death penalty is a deterrent. Studies say that those who who are murderers and prison. They say they stole it and done it even if the death penalty would have been available. Here is what you don't know. And it's unknowable. How many people didn't kill somebody because they knew the Tennessee or Texas had the death penalty. How many did not do it? How many were deterred from doing it because they knew that they would die if they did it. You can't know that. So of course it's the deterrent. We have no idea how many people weren't killed because the want to be a killer or murderer did not do it knowing that they would die in term because of where they live. So don't give me that argument either. Now this bear is mentioning I do the show live Monday through Friday 6 to 9 PM Eastern time. If you're listening to the show outside those times I love being on those stations. I'm not complaining about my time slot there. But yesterday in a CJ screen of the calls and a lot of people called in hour three to talk about this topic which we were talked about in hour one.

11:39A lot of you get hour one as hour three and you're your hour one starts two or three hours later than way after we start. So when you called in we couldn't take the death penalty call because we were two hours away from talking about it today. Luckily. And that's why I like doing free speech Friday. I will take you call on this. I'll take you call whatever's on your mind. If I know something about it we'll talk about it if not I'll just gonna move on. I'll say thank you and move on. But today is the day a lot of people want to be heard in the death penalty yesterday because we talked about it at length. We do have updates now of course her legal team and her legal advisors want the death penalty gone now Tim Birchett rightfully so a US representative from Tennessee wants her to die. And that's because the jury said she should. So I'll take I'll sort of take your calls on it today. Whereas even if you called yesterday in hour two or three we were done. We were past this and you can't really rewind and I talk show and say let's go back to what we talked about in hour one because most people don't listen for three hours. Eight eight nine for one Pags eight eight nine four one seven two four seven Joe Pags.com. Is there any validity to the call to stop executions because of this don't call me tell me I'm against executions because I just damn.

12:46Well you can do that if you want but that's not directly related to the update today. The update today is no longer should this even be an option. Because of what happened to her so should it be taken off the table simply because of what happened to her or do you agree with Tim Birchett and with me listen she was sentenced to die she should and they should not have taken 31 years to get us here. Eight eight nine for one Pags eight eight nine four one seven two four seven Joe Pags.com Ali Bradley the bottom of the hour about what's going on in the board if there's a surge of troops there because of the cartel activity sending drones over and it's starting heat up. I'm going to give you the real latest on that at the bottom of the hour. Let me take about lean from Brickhouse. Brickhouse nutrition gets it done right they they have a line of supplements that people swear by. And right now with lean you get 20% off and free rush shipping going to take lean.com use the promo code Pags PAGS lean by Brickhouse nutrition. It's a weight loss supplement designed to compliment a healthy diet and exercise plan without weekly injections without the need to go to a pharmacist at all.

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14:55no November 19th Yama Vaughe theater no wonder women rush to have kids were being trained for it since we were kids. They're like here's a baby doll. Here's an easy bake oven. I got one of those I stuck my head in it. I was like I want out of this narrative tickets on sale now at Yama Vaughe theater.com don't miss Nicky Glazer Yama Vaughe theater. Great to have you thanks appreciate you stopping by. There's a lot going on lots to get to lots to talk about. It is the Joe Pag show bottom of the hour is going to be Ali Bradley so about 10 minutes from now she's going to update us and what's going on to the border. We have sent troops there and we do have cartels sending drones this way. She's going to outline exactly what's going on there. You're not going to want to miss even a second of that. We go to the phone lines. Let me say hello and welcome to Zane who's in St. Louis. Zane what's going on. Well I love listening to your shows. Thank you. One I can't and I listen to it yesterday and today it made same comment.

15:59I kind of take you with that being that the death penalty is a deterrent. It is. The reason I say that is justice is no longer certain or quick. It's like he's been on death row for 20 years or whatever. And so many of the people that do commit murder don't end up being executed. I don't know that it's so much of a deterrent. I wish that the judicial system was a little quicker and more certain but since it's not I think that's a mistaken position. Okay well we disagree. I understand where you're coming from and I think you made sense in how you said it. You don't think it's a deterrent because it takes so long to get it done then why would anybody worry about it. You still live for 31 years behind bars. Well behind bars is no fun as it is and I agree with you Zane that we shouldn't without a doubt step up how long it takes.

16:59You got an appellate process that should be to have a limited time. You can appeal for four years two years five years make it ten. Whatever it's going to be you should be done with your appeals and not have to be on death row. Not have the the residents support you. The taxpayer support you in death row for three decades. That's stupid. So you and I agree on that angle but again you cannot quantify that it's not a deterrent at the end of the day because we have no idea how many people didn't murder because they were afraid to be killed for murdering somebody. Let me go back at it. Let me say hello and welcome to Ted in San Antonio. Ted what's going on? Hi. Yeah hi Joe listen I had all of the same questions you started up with at the top of the hour about this case and I had found out quite a few answers on that. Would you find out if you'll entertain me for a second? So first of all I feel like Tennessee really face planted on this. Back in May on May 21st actually there's a guy that was on up for execution and they tried I think they they kept him for like two hours trying to get you know something stuck into a proper vein and

18:04they were unable to find a vein. Yeah I couldn't find a vein right. What ended up happening? Yeah that's correct. He got a one year reprieve so he's up for execution again in May of 2027. It's the same doctor by the way that was in charge of this execution that also was botched so there's a lot of questions. Well I don't think it's a doctor is he Ted well hold on I don't think it's a doctor I think it's somebody who's a medical expert or a doctor. Are you sure because a doctor takes it off. No doctor no you're right. Right because the doctor takes it off to not do any harm. Go ahead. Right he's not a doctor he's a they have a weird system you can volunteer you can be I think like a paramedic you know you just have to be able to do it. Okay. Right so anyway there the other problem there is that she has a condition and I wasn't aware of this so I found that out today. She has a condition I don't recall if I talk my head what it is but it's a condition whereby you have a clotting problem and you have very small hard to find veins and they knew about

19:08this. She told them about this in fact that's why she had requested the firing squad initially because she was so afraid of what happened to the guy back in May that she didn't want that to happen to her. She wanted to go out you know quickly and easily and but they denied her that and said now you're going to do the legal injection so and they put her up there. Well the reason they couldn't let her die is because she was still alive and the execution order is only good until midnight of that day. And so whatever happened they would have still had to keep her alive after midnight just say she would have survived. So because the thing was botched they had both of our arms messed up you know like you were you mentioned that they had like six or seven needles stuck in her at the same time. Right and it was a mess and so they took her off to the hospital and there she is now and so what will happen is that if she stays in a coma like if she's non-responsive forever they have to keep her alive they can't execute her. That is so unbelievably stupid to me and Ted this is going to sound

20:13horrible for those listening and watching but you put tape over her nose and mouth. You're you know before midnight you know what I mean if you've got if you got to make her dead by the jury's order and thanks Ted and I'll verify what Ted just had to say I again I taken that as word but we'll look it up anyway. You've got to make her dead by midnight because the jury said this is a punishment then make that happen this doesn't make any sense that we're giving so-called life saving care. Hank I don't leave you hanging I've got an interview coming up but you got to go fast let's go. Okay yeah I did have you covered about this year's flu vaccine is using mRNA technology. I have not and if that's the case let me say this very clearly to you don't take it. Well I know and the other thing I was going to say is I saw an ad on television today for a by a company called Novak Novak's about a a COVID-19 vaccine that's being offered that has fewer side effects called new Vaxavid and on their their ad they're talking about how it's better and safer

21:18because it's not using mRNA technology and about six weeks ago on life box now I just saw a little one-line banner go across the screen and I've heard nothing since saying that this year's flu vaccine is using mRNA technology. Hank I got a run but I will look it up I promise you that let me say this if it's got mRNA technology I would suggest nobody take it and when it comes to the COVID-19 so-called vaccine vaccinations because of all the interviews I've done over the years I would not suggest you take those either. Joe Pag Show coming back Ali Bradley at the bottom going to talk about what's happening at the border you got to hear this. This is the Joe Pag Show. Nikki Glazer this stunning tour the thoughts of death I don't like to dwell on them for longer than like 10 or 15 hours a day so Nov. 19 Yamavath Theater no wonder women rushed to have kids were being trained for it since we were kids they're like here's a baby doll here's an easy bake oven

22:19I got one of those I stuck my head in it I was like I want out of this narrative tickets on sale now at Yamavath Theater dot com don't miss Nikki Glazer Yamavath Theater what's interesting is there's a lot going on at the border that we don't generally know about a lot of us voted the certain way we voted because the border issues and I think that a lot has gone on that we didn't know about if we didn't have a reporter like Ali Bradley we still wouldn't know about it she of course the immigration correspondent news nation great friend of ours Ali how are you going to see it I'm doing well Pags how are you I'm I'm living the dream so you are my go to when it comes to just about anything not just the border you're just that good as a reporter whether you're in Minneapolis being yelled at by a protest in crowd whether you're talking to a cartel member from hiding in a bush you know down at the border you actually reported something that I think a lot of Americans didn't know about and it's really important information so I want to get

23:20into it as as I'm going to tip toe a little bit because I don't want anybody to get to get riled up over you giving this information but it's publicly known information that you gathered yourself so let me cut to the chase there has been activity at the border near the border at the border with cartels sending drones over and we are reacting to it yet it wasn't reported widely until you broke the story can you take it from there and fill my audience in yeah so essentially over the weekend the US Coast Guard took on gunfire from suspected cartel members and the US Coast Guard returned fire luckily no one was heard on the US Coast Guard side unsure if anybody on the Mexican side was heard I haven't seen any reports on that but after that after that happened it basically prompted the deployment of 500 troops down to the Rio Grande Valley I mean they're literally being dropped off onto these islands that were cleared off they used to be called cartel islands they've been cleared off so they're literally dropping these soldiers out of the back of

24:23Chinook helicopters into the Rio Grande Valley an area that is ripe for cartel activity we've seen them with guns down there we've seen 11 cartel drones shot out of the sky by the US military and just the last month alone so a lot of that information was was of course new and exclusive from news nation because we're able to get a lot of it from our sources and then also confirm some of it through the US Coast Guard too after that incident but our reporting actually from what I have learned actually prompted the US military to put out an actual news release on operation it's their latest operation that piggybacks off of an ongoing operation and mission down here at the southern border and so they actually kicked out a release confirming that hundreds of soldiers are being kind of redeployed down to the Rio Grande Valley under this operation and so yes so that I mean it's very sensitive information and like you said there's a lot of stuff that

25:23comes out or that happens that we don't know about and there's a lot of stuff and I will say this there's a lot of times I get information I might get a nugget from one person and it's probably true but the way that we operate we have to get it confirmed from at least three sources for it to be substantiated in any capacity you can't just hear it from one guy right but you'll hear things and then you have to kind of do this balance of if it's fair to report it or if it could cause backlash or security issues and this is a very sensitive space down here along this southern border when something like that happens when they deploy troops when they move troops when they have these exercises or operations or things like that the cartel is always watching now with this deployment it was pretty obvious they're coming out of Shana Kellicopters I mean it's not like they're doing it stealthily at three o'clock in the morning this is a big deal hey look they're a bunch of helicopters over top of us so go ahead right and it was over the course of several days

26:25so this is something that you could probably be down by the border and see for yourself we obtained some video through a source on the Mexico side of the border and we're able to share that his name is Mateo Garcia and he's on Facebook and he is over in Mexico and he has some great videos and so I was able to get that video of the deployment that he took the other day and again it's it's sensitive information down here and in releasing information like that can apparently actually impact op-sec operational security and apparently now the cartel knows that these soldiers are in the valley and not somewhere else and so that's something that they can apparently play on and take advantage of and and we see this all time right we we've seen the new army high energy laser but it's like you can't get real access to it or see how it really works because then you're showing the cartel how the sausage is made right you're telling them hey

27:28this is where we're going to be this is what we're going to do and go ahead and do your homework and so you can counter us because they watch our news they watch my coverage they know what's going on and so if they can get one step ahead or even be in lock step with our forces our military our federal agents that gives them the upper hand because they're always going to be able to have some kind of insight into what's going on down here so I understand the kind of any frustrations that might come with this when people see border reporting this is not the first story where people have been like ah why'd you share that you know like a checkpoint being closed why would you share that when the cartel can just exploit that then and it's it is all news and it is all relevant to the border piece that's happening right now under the Trump administration and people deserve to know what's going on and how their taxpayer dollars are being utilized and this is all one big puzzle piece of that and I'm just kind of the catalyst that delivers it

28:29to the American people and that's the thing and I've shared documents before and people get frustrated and they're like our name was on that I'm like it was literally published by the government right and they're like yeah but you made it public and I understand that I know the government did no no no wait wait publishing something is making it public but I found that go ahead I found it and put it somewhere that had a platform that was bigger than being buried in a government press release or in a court case somewhere that's some that you know Joe Smith sitting on his couch is not looking for but he probably could see Twitter you know and so I understand that and I'm trying to kind of take that and stride but it is it is a challenge ongoing down here at the border to kind of balance when you have some kind of information whether or not you should share it or you should kind of let it die and let the forces operate in the shadows it's Ali Bradley of course news nation go to at Ali Bradley TV and all the platforms follow her everywhere let me say a couple of things first of all you didn't ask me to say any of this but I'm going to say

29:32it anyway I did journalism for a long time I was a news director at TV stations I would have hired you in a second and that you would be my star reporter clearly your job is to go and observe see what's going on report what's going on cultivate these these people that are your sources and then utilize what you can you're not going and breaking into the government computers and leaking that information you shouldn't know you learn this information from really good on the ground reporting and there's nothing wrong with what you did in fact what you did like you said actually caused the government to say okay here's what we're doing which is a really good thing the cartels were already flying drones over our border and they were noticing everybody anything anybody was doing so when you bring in a bunch of helicopters and drop a bunch of soldiers I think it's obviously you can report that that's not a classified thing having said all of that I do like that you're so thoughtful about what it is you're going to put out there you don't want to put any of our people in harm's way I know that you don't want to put anybody who lives along the border in harm's way I know that but we can't just not report it when it's happening in front of our own very eyes you

30:32know what I mean and that's why I think that you should feel solid about reporting it unless somebody said hey allie don't tell anybody but and I know that that is it would happen you wouldn't reported it that way right right no you know sources kind of give me the tip that caca this is going on and then go and you you kind of figure it out you know you cross reference it with several people you try to work with the federal government and get some kind of you know official statement the if the federal government a lot of times when it's leaked information or information that is sensitive they won't comment right so I will say I'm surprised that we even got a statement from the US Coast Guard corroborating the report that they that they did take on that gunfire but we still haven't gotten a statement from DHS from the Department of War from Northcom nothing like that on the situation other than the press release that came out and when I say I sent several emails even peeing them with the video and saying caca I know it's happening because look yeah

31:36they still didn't respond I reached out to high level government sources sent them the video and said it's clearly happening can you just sneeze in my direction and say yes you're right and it just wasn't you know kind of coming coming to fruition and then these other sources corroborated it and other individuals that saw the operation happening you know we're like yeah it's absolutely going on but again it's it's very and Stephen Miller retweeted our post right so when you have someone who is a high level advisor within the White House that's kind of your confirmation that your reporting is accurate and so that's not the only way you know but when some a senior White House official shares your stuff like it's obviously not false yes and so you know that is kind of the kind of the process of it all but it is interesting again to still not have an email response from any of the entities involved but the press release got kicked out so it's it's a dance and a

32:38balance and something that we're always you know working on down here at the border especially you're so isolated and you have to rely on your sources and a lot of the things happen within you know the the blink of an eye and so you have to get that information from people that are working down here along along the border and you know that could come by way of you know special incident reports that they show screenshots of that right they literally take pictures and show you but you can't share them you know things like that that can help you with your reporting but you still have to be very sensitive to it and you don't want to ever burn your sources or incriminate anyone in any of your reporting by just trying to get the information out so well I know this much if you're reporting it then it's above reproach I know that you're just that good it's Ali Bradley Ali Bradley TV let me ask you something in 24 you know better than anybody because you've been covering it forever people voted on the border either they wanted Biden to continue or that those policies to continue or they want to Trump to come and change things the president is set a few times

33:38incorrectly and I think somebody's giving him bad information that we've had no border crossings in 16 months or something like that that's not true we've had plenty of border crossings the true number is there have been no illegal aliens who crossed the border dropped into the in the inside of the United States that's really what they're talking about when they say zero because you're getting caught at the border you're going to a detention facility you're applying for asylum whatever that's really the number what is the state of the border right now there are people coming across illegally right yeah so first let's let's talk about the zero crossing zero releases you're right that's what he is saying he's saying zero crossings which is a factual error that is not true they they report every month how many encounters they have which means someone crossed the border they just reported 12,000 the last three months right so how can you say no one's crossing the border when your own government is putting out statistics showing people are crossing the border every semi truck full of people every stash house every smuggled globe those people crossed the

34:41border were some hundreds of them we just heard governor Abbott today say quote there is a slight uptick at the southern border right so they're managing these challenges right now he said they're keeping an eye on things they're they're standing at the ready Texas DPS operation lo and star the Texas military department they're all still very active down here along the southern border and they say that they're watching the caravan they're watching things like that that could potentially cause issues along the southern border could potentially cause a surgeon people trying to come here I mean Laredo just the other day Mexico ended up apprehending 58 and the US border patrol turned back 40 in Laredo and some people were saying oh this is a caravan already here and that just is not the case the caravan I walked with one they don't move that fast they could not have already been at our southern border you know at the beginning of this week just we walked 10 miles a day when I was with them and so unless they're getting on buses or getting you know vehicles are taking

35:42them somewhere which up from what I understand Mexico basically outlawed that in the caravan so that wasn't happening during our caravan they were walking 10 miles a day you don't get to the US southern border in less than a week by doing that and so what my sources had said is that with all of the military activity that happened in Roma in the Rio Grande Valley the cartel got skittish and emptied out their stash houses and pushed them down to Laredo and that's why we saw kind of this group of around a hundred kind of tried to breach the border in the Laredo area so it's all causing effect right and so that's why some of these people are saying you know there are kind of implications to reporting on this because again the cartel sees the movement there they go ah we're going to move over here and they can see it though they're down there too and they've got a lot better resources than we do than I do I mean and they don't have schedules they can work 25-8 they don't have OSHA they don't have you know things that are going to come in and and give them a

36:42black black star like they're in brilliantly operating with immunity on the south side of the border and so that's that's kind of the worry is you tell you put out the information about something in the cartel gets to have the upper hand and so have there been zero releases in the internal United States from the border I think somebody told the president the wrong thing or he said the wrong thing and nobody you know has the way of us to go up and say hey that's not really what's going on have there been zero releases internally so if you look at like catch and release at the border someone crossing over getting a notice to appear getting on a bus and ending up in the interior I can't I can't negate those comments I don't know if they have I would imagine that they have released some unaccompanied children I would imagine that they have released a few family units with extenuating circumstances like that's normal stuff and when I talk with agents down here and I talk with other sources they're like well yeah like duh that happened yeah right now is

37:45it enough to actually move the needle or like be enough to report about probably not right which is why I haven't dug into it further but but I'm not going to go after him about that the the thing is you've heard Tom Homan literally say they released 65,000 people because of habeas cases that were in detention yeah and then they say there's zero releases so it's just I'm confusing for people yeah and people hear the president say zero crossings then they see my page and they're like I thought you said the border secure yeah yeah so it's tough like it's because I'm guessing Homan can say all those 65,000 came across during Biden so they didn't come across during Trump's they weren't released you know into the interior the whole thing is is a bit of a shell game but without a doubt and we can say objectively the border is nowhere near the open sieve that it was during Biden no not not even close I mean it doesn't compare at all a lot of the guys down here you know I hate to say that they're bored there's a lot to do always down here

38:50and there's always got a ways so you always want to be at the ready and always be acting as a deterrent there but at the end of the day they're not getting groups of you know 300 they're not getting that but I see the statistics every day for the del Rio sector and you know they they vary between you know 30 and 40 people a day del Rio might get nine one day might get one the next and so there are still people crossing there are there is still work to do down here but it's nowhere near what it was and that's what people need to understand and I think that's what the the Trump administration needs to kind of pivot over to is to say something along the lines of you know what of course America is the greatest nation on the planet of course people want to come to our country and that is why border patrol has existed for 101 years but if they try to cross we're going to catch them we're going to use every resource every play in the book every technological advancement to catch them that's what they need to be talking about instead of saying no one's

39:52crossing no one's down here because these guys down here are like then what are we doing Ali Bradley another 10 minutes of that interview it is posted right now on youtube jopags.com slash youtube jopags.com slash youtube next hour dr. Ben Carson and then hour number three part two with dr. Ben Carson don't miss a second of that quick break here we're back after this you're listening to Joe Pags you Nikki Glazer this stunning tour the thoughts of death I don't like to dwell on them for longer than like 10 or 15 hours a day so November 19th Yama about theater no wonder women rush to have kids were being trained for it since we were kids they're like here's a baby doll here's an easy big oven I got one of those I stuck my head in it I was like I want out of this narrative tickets on sale now at yama about theater dot com don't miss Nikki Glazer yama va theater

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