Morofobia, un racismo ‘marca España’ (EFECTO LLAMADA - CARNE CRUDA #1610)

0:00The Toyota Tundra and Tacoma are built to keep going, backed by Toyota's reputation for legendary reliability. Step into a Tundra with the available iForce Max Hybrid Engine, delivering impressive torque and serious towing power. Or take a look at Tacoma with an available power lift gate, so gear goes in fast and the adventure keeps moving. Toyota trucks are built to last year after year, mile after mile. So drive one home today, visit Toyota.com to find out more. Toyota, let's go places. DISAשיא-¡Danya! DIAX! DIAX! Welcome to CarNegor, Nautilus, DIAX. Join us for a dangerous exactment. Inavations. Imagine coming out of your home to work alone, which isn't your home because you can't see it in the contract and ningún de todo tu trabajo porque no esta dado de alta. Imagine that your son drives a Uiffy in a house but you can't open a bank account to hire him.

1:02Imagine that you have a strange note, but you can't hire him because you can't go to your health center because you don't have sanitary drugs, because you can't show him that you live in your house, because you can't pay for him because you don't give birth to him since the 19th century. Imagine that your mother or your father dies, and you don't go to your aunt's house because you can't go out of the country. Or you can't imagine the caffian lab in which you live in thousands of people in our country and that you have extreme cruelty during the pandemic when a collective centenial income was collected at 700,000 companies were present in an initiative to popularize them by regularization. And you know why they could do it? Because they were here. And they were already here. Living, working, consuming, sleeping, paying, eating, dreaming, breathing, and being here. In a country that does as they are not. Gallenita ciega, Luz de gas. 500,000, 800,000 people in the kitchen of our bars in the field, taking care of our neighbors. That's weird, we didn't notice it. The regularization of the arrival before 2025, to rank the government for power,

2:03is not in such an extraordinary reality. Luis Cierón, P.P. PSOE, another six times in the last 40 years. But today it seems like a revolution against time. While the ice, the house, and the big port of the most violent and humiliating way and Europe, it pays a distance to deport the person to the country that without any reason is yours. Today we have to celebrate being in the port of New York Times or in the electoral campaign of Portugal for this news. That this is the brand of Spain. There is no need to be in use. Here we have the same ultras that Rian Espulsari and slavery to those who arrive, who associate migration and delincuencia. We have the repacheco, we have the reddened by the skin color and we have a structural system of racism. But today, at least today, this battle has won the ones that are already here. Aguanta Migranta, of our dear Cat Yola, is the theme that they recommend to us from the regularization platform.

3:18Aguanta Migranta. Here's a piece of Haga, Iola, which we know is very fan of Karne Crude, and we recommend it in Red, so we do the same thing, and we recommend it in music.

4:18I would like to recommend Silvana Cabrera, one of the main platforms, regularization, with which we talk about La Dana in Valencia, about the indefense, precisely those who don't have paper in regular when it comes to a catastrophe. Silvana Crude, good morning. Good morning. Good morning. How did you receive the announcement? Well, this is something we have been working on these last weeks, so that this is the most guaranteed and wider in rights. The truth is that I can't believe it, until I don't have it in my voice, but because we are so used to politics, we are also used to big victories,

5:18I mean, I didn't believe it, I don't know, and they are going to come out with something, but well, I feel very, obviously very, very happy, because as I had told you, this behind each expedient is that there is a person, there is a life, and we know the multiple difficulties that are faced in our community every day, for not being able to have a regularized situation. So, this is a work, but above all, it is a work and a dream for many people, migrants. And what point of this agreement would you say you have to be more careful? What do you ask for the government once they announced it and that, in fact, it is public in the voice, this measure. Yes, that it is announced and that it is published in the voice, which we have been doing, right?

6:20We understand that it has been a pretty hard business and that it has had to put a lot of pressure on us, but what we are not interested in is that the vast majority of people are possible. And that it is a date, well, the most, the most soon today, right? So, this short is until December 31, that they maintain the requirements that are written in the agreement that we have also published in regularization networks, so that they can, that is, they can access this, the majority of people are possible. Now, once I write the voice, I think, and with the experience that we have had in the extraordinary regularization of the data, I think it is fundamental because of the government, first of all, to inform all institutions that participate in this regularization.

7:20Yes. But it reaches the information in a correct way, because that was a huge difficulty that we had in all public institutions that participated in the data. So, it is not a correct information, both towards the institutions and towards the population, right? Exactly. In addition to the institutions and towards the population, and that it is in various languages, also not only do we think that the migrant people who live in Spanish territory can access easily to the caste. Well, of all those petitions, of all the things that there have to be very attentive, so that they can be fulfilled, so that this measure is as much as possible, we will continue, depending on everything that regularization is done. We thank you very much for being here today and for the good work I have achieved. Thank you very much, a greeting. We can have achieved an agreement with the socialist party so that the government proves, immediately, an extraordinary regularization of migrant people.

8:20I know, Gullet, partner, activist and investigator, anti-racist, I think, Gullet, yes. I have to ask you what this announcement seems to you. Well, I am very happy, but it is true that we believe in social justice and in a egalitarian system, even though we celebrate this, we are aware that there is a lot of work to do, because there is no doubt that in the end this is an extraordinary regularization. The system remains, so they continue to create character arcades, and they continue to humanize the people who come from the global circle, and there are also many other pending questions, and above all, those who have to see the fight for citizenship and for the rights of migrant citizens. And above all, there is a very large work to do in the fight against racial racism and institutional racism. It may be a luck that today we had prepared this program with you, because, precisely, of that, we are going to talk about it today. The daily suffering in public transport through the streets, even in the stores, looking at the following, as if it were stolen, until I have really believed in what is called the morgue.

9:22I feel free to talk more about us, compared to other countries. It is considered unconsciously that its citizens are a category that is associated with a series of stereotypes, prejudices. I think that before, or at least as I understood it, it was a morgue, and there was a way to call a morgue here. But now, every day that happens, it gives me the feeling that the term, every time it is bigger, it already ends up almost everything that we don't like, that it has the skin a little darker than us. Well, it is a way of looking for an enemy. A morgue was someone who came, someone who came from the Maghreb. It is a question of the origin, but now it is a morgue. It is all the worst. A word loaded with audio, insult, made to any different person. It is a Western person. In fact, when you do not meet that kind of stereotypes, you are surprised and even congratulate you. Spain is a reality impossible to appeal to. Also, the racism is more with one,

10:22than with another, according to the Spanish observatory of racism and xenophobia more than 90% of the audio messages in social networks. In 2025, they were directed against African-American and Muslim person, a very elevated percentage in relation to their population weight. Come on! Come on! Come on! What are you going to do? Cappuccino! The organization has divided the ultra-discargue, each day with greater impunity, its verbal violence, physical violence against the origin population in Arabic, or Muslim religion of our country, and it is not necessary to reach what we say in your speech with microaggressions, we just gave it to the government, and also one of those aggressions is a cotidiana. The association baroque for integration is less than 7% of those who suffer from some kind of aggression and xenophobia in Spain comes to denounce against justice. Come on! Come on! Come on! Come on! That's why today we ask ourselves, in who we think when we talk about the morgue, who we refer to, what images come to us at the head. It's racist, talking about the morgue, and what is that of morgue?

11:22What does it have to do with the immobile, and with our history and colonial past? Today we talk about the anti morgue anti morgue, a very marked racism in Spain, of its meaning and use, but above all we talk about the impact that it has on who they are, called like this. And we do it with someone who doesn't only know all about this topic, but also, it's the king of the posture morgue in red. Our particular morgue, and before we start, what is the posture morgue? Who? So that you don't see your Instagram. Well, presuming to be a morgue, basically. presuming well presuming. There are two words that have demonized many people, people are waiting to enter into the European continent. They tell us, we are the people, but we are the Carpians. If you are a vibrator, then go here. The solution is to let them all come. We call the effects of the Marxists, we treat them, we go with them. That's what they call. The effect. The effect called. The effect of the effect of the effect called. What is Spain?

12:22Spain? Spain? It is changing. 8 years ago. Yes. It is a day, agitate for the effect of the effect called. I remember that we call them, and they use it. Someone wants to ask something very basic. What's a morgue? Well, it's not very clear. At first this term has been raining as some of the testimonies for Africa's North African celebration. I was known as Magreby's population, but today, as I said in other testimonies, it seems that a wall is all that, that is negative, and all that, above all, is related to Islam, and therefore, as a human being. Of course, and the rhetorical question of the day is a offensive term. Well, for me, it is a person who does not love me anymore, it seems offensive, and you have to realize that it is one of the many racists that exist, and that they have built the language of history, and I am thinking about it in black and white, in India. And it is a concept that closes, because it is a negative difference, that has been used, and that is well used to justify, along with the history, because the persecution, the expulsion, even the annihilation, therefore, I ask myself, for someone to love me, if it is not, to differentiate themselves from him.

13:27Of course, to be no love, and however, you speak and resume from that love, posture, or gesture. The Spanish social imaginary is full of adjectives, and said about love, and none is positive. It is not very much in the head, and we are not going to say it, because it is true that yes. Love is synonym of faith, of evil, of suicide, something that is confident, and as I, really, am not a negative person, love, posture, if it is a revenge, and it is a way of saying, well, because here I am, that I am not hiding, and I am not ashamed of what I am. And if well, no one knows very well, that it is a love, I think that anyone who sees me knows that it is a love. And personally, how has it been marked, has it been marked and treated as such, as love? Well, along with our childhood, of our life in general, I think it is the word that we most often hear, and that is to say that it is marked from what we raise, until we get used to it, we see it in the books of texts, the media of communication, in the political discourses, and it was taught to us with rice, and as a cause of all the social evil. In fact, I would say, with certain security, that today I am an activist, and I tell myself what I am saying, because I have been called a death.

14:32You have come out bad, call you a death of a little boy. So, an imposition from the opposition, because it is used to refer to all the opposite to the Spanish, but another doubt. What is nationality? Reminds the death. Well, for many who are sent there, there is no geographical place, which is called Morolandia, and I think that, above all, what is intended is to consolidate the idea of what is what is Spanish, and it is a way to exclude that not only do we only repeat the Moros, the black ones, the white ones, the white ones, even though they have been born here. Yes, and in fact, during the Raphita Cacería, of all the repacheco, it was talked about hunting the Moro, although many of the neighbors, what was pointed out, had been born in Murcia. As you can see, as Al-Mamsian, there is no one in their book, the radicalization of racism, the word Moro is a colonial category, which has been used to describe a group of people, very heterogeneous, which shares a series of characteristics as it is. And what are those characteristics? Well, I think someone here can ask about these characteristics, it is the police,

15:34and it is not a joke, because here they are not the ones who are constantly stopping us for those controls of those who use racial criteria, but well, the collective imagination is full of stereotypes and prejudices about what is a Moro, those characteristics, I think, that we all have in our heads, and this is a reality that is very exploited in the cultural myth. Well, Fari, as a cultural copy of this country, gives us some clues of what it is understood by Moro, but tell us how has the Moro defined their history? Well, in many ways. In the book, the image of the Magrivi in Spain,

16:34written by the doctor in modern history, El hoy Martín Corrales, is collected in illustrations of the most varied, about what has been a Moro in the last four centuries, and it is really surprising to know how he has described us, how has he drawn us? How has he drawn us? Well, yes, he has drawn us as animals, he has put us in a zoology, he has painted us with dark skin from the logic of the virus, that the dark skin is the same as the evil, and it is that as they said, there is no soul, the Moro is a continent, and it contains all that we are not here, and when we do not fit in the molds of what is understood by Moro, it says to us, oh, it doesn't seem so Moro? No, it seems Moro has said so. There are several occasions, yes, something bad will be doing. The worst thing is that it is said from the belief that it is a pyrofoam, it does not seem Moro as the rest of the Moros, but in reality, it is that they have found a affinity with you, or that you have to have a prejudice, and instead of changing the mental scheme, you prefer to think that what happens is that that person you have in the past is an exception, so please do not say to the people that do not seem Moro,

17:35just because you believe that it is better than other Moros. Please, please. I know, I have stayed with what I commented that Moro has been built in reality in opposition to the Spanish, and that that image varies there. Yes, in the book of Corrales, you can see very well this, while today the Moro is the sum of homophobia and machism, it is not so much painted, it was represented as a very feminized figure, and it was not like a blinding, the Moro. It is always tested to the other blinding. You do not want to kill me and here with the fairy. It is that it represents the best. And have you ever been positive in the image of Moro? No, not near. If you want to describe something in a positive way, not homogenous, and you do not describe it from the difference. You have to realize that Moro, in this country, not only was defeated, it was also annihilated and expelled, from 1492, because it was considered that it could not be similar to the Spanish, and today this is celebrated in the streets, through those events like Moro and Cristiano,

18:35where we always lose the same. We talk about historical processes, that today they are exploiting the ultra-directed, along with the whole incident, showing that it is the enemy, for quite a long time, the Moro. More walls, and less walls of those who do not respect women. We are here. Obviously we are listening to the leader of box, Santiago Abascal, asked for more walls against the Moro, and it is evident that if there is a population group of Diana from the ultra-directed global, that is the Moro, which is similar to musulman. In fact, it can be said that, by the way, these discussions in the leaders of the ultra-directed, we can go through the French of the European Union, the Italian of Meloni, the Dutch of Wilders or Germany of the FD. But Moro, the Russian anti-Muslim anti-Muslim and the Islamophobia, our weigh-ins are not monopolis inclusive of the ultra-directed. No, it has been said that Moro, the Russian anti-Muslim anti-Muslim is the Moro, they are three-term, I do not know if they are the same in which they differ. I am not going to answer that. To try to do this,

19:35about this issue, if you are Fatima Tajiri, this is Dr. Enes, and Professor Ines of Azia and Africa, the University of Autonomia of Madrid and this is the founder of the blog Mectu, a debate and analysis of the live-in of the diaspora of Moro and Musulmana in the Spanish state. Fatima, for two days. I'll ask you about that same question as if they were connected to Moro, and Moro, and, the Moro, the Anti-Muslim anti-Muslim anti-Muslim anti-Muslim is the Moro. racism anti-morrow. It has to be seen above all with those people who have origin, grave, or who have African tendencies. Spain is the country where we can talk about the existence of love. We have created this term, we can say that it can be marked in Spain. Fatima, you and I have commented that in the Anglo-Saxon world, the figure of the Arab had been saved from a certain orientalism. From certain fascination, sexualization, exotization, but here we have stopped doing all this. If it is true that these connotations are more of an enemy than to fight constantly, not that Papel has the history of

20:39Spain in this. This building is a figure of the wall, not only as someone different, but as the enemy for a non-tonomous of the 12 to 18 of the Catholic Church, and later as the enemy, to secularization, to civilization, etc. It has been adapted to be different from the historical moment. And how does that teach you all that? Is that history of love in the educational system of Spain? I don't know, it's definitely taught. I don't know, comment, right? Well, it is commented with that opposition that you are telling. So there is a connotation express of invasion of the Muslim and the Arab peninsula. That connotation, combative, violent, that has generated all this imaginary in the Muslim community. And you would say sorry that in Europe there is another way to tell this or to see it, it is a bit different from the country of our environment in this sense. Let's see, for example, that came to me from the head of a famous quote that I said to

21:41Naznard when he began to see the problem of the terrorism called Jihadist, and his quote was that the problem of Spain with Al Qaeda began to be blocked. It had that problem there before, right? Of course. So, to tell the story, from a prism of violence and such, the effect, gradually to the situation that we currently have, we have to France that has a very strong institutional homophobic discourse. It is true that it has another type of integration system and, well, unlike Spain, we have people from different origins that occupy different ambitions in the labor market, in the political, in the media of communication, but that does not take away that there is a strong racist discourse, Islamophobic. And how has it also contributed to that image in the cinema industry and entertainment? For now in Spain what has contributed is even to accentuate much more stereotypes and prejudices

22:44already existing in the collective image. And then the question that I see that it is crucial that all the characters that appear in the series or movies and that are Muslims or origin Arabs, their only plot in the movie or in the series is that they are Muslims. It is sensualized so much to the Arab person, Muslim, to say more. The humor is a concept to sensualize all that gender, because there are many things apart of Muslims or Arabs and so on. And by the last one I mentioned of the role of the terrorist, how do you think it has contributed? And how is it contributing to the political action to strengthen and generate that figure of the moral terrorist? Men, the last years we have that the politics that have had to do with, well, the absence of status policies to manage the religious diversity and the ethnic diversity in general. And it has been given from always everything that has to do with the Muslim communities, from a

23:47security perspective. Yes, the Muslims have always considered as the threat to the state of the United States, to the democracy, etc., denying it in any way from part of inclusion to the system, etc. So, if you are a person, you are putting it into work and you are talking more in a way more symbolic, putting the foot in the neck, don't let it breathe for the work, you have already commented at the beginning of the program, the question of regularization, we have to have in mind that a large part of the world is immigrant, so they already have that administrative precarization that brings a lot of problems in the living, health level, and work. And apart from that, the Muslims are all this imaginary and all this security that what is done is to stimulate and criminalize even more to the person, it is impossible to create a atmosphere of coexistence or that

24:50that person feels included in the country of welcome, in the country of welcomed. Fatima Dairi, thank you very much for this Cake and Cake from the history of Antimora de España we will be very happy with the one which you publish in the blog Mectu, thank you. Thank you! Here, what gives me love. Do you want love? That's right. I can't make it like this. Well, that's about human. Human, human, human, human, human, human, human. What's the purpose? Joseph, I do not know what we are hearing, and also sound. Well, we are listening to two national policies that, in mid-December, they took a local food to the Corcona, south of Madrid, where a robot had produced a robot. When they arrived there, they began to vomit all these lindies that you have heard, without being aware that the security cameras of the local were recording their conversation. So, the security cameras were taken by a robot at a local and ended up damaging the stolen food, insulting the owner and his clientele.

25:51Yes, well, imagine the surprise of Sam and the local owner to recurrent to the images to see if they could identify who had committed the robot and listen to these lindies. And even so, well, well, it happened and I present a complaint against the commissariat. Very well done, because although the police do not generate confidence in this type of behavior, they can not stay in Pune, and always that it can be done, and that, well, that the person is driven, must be accused of denouncing it. Yes, it is always that it can be done, because I am remembering that when they stole me in the car and I went with this face of death that I said before, to the commissariat of MOSTOLES, they also got to the Corcona to denounce it and, well, I don't think it was what they asked me. No, don't play it, surprise me. Well, I went to denounce the stealing of my vehicle and I ended up interrogating about stolen vehicles and they asked me if I had denunciations for stealing and how many. In the stereotype, basically, it is a fundamental person in his conceptions that practice Islam, there is a network of travel to the Mecca of Zakat, which is important, because another classic is to assume that in all Muslims there is a terrorist potential.

26:51We listen to the politologist and sociologist Mohamed Mustafa, a specialist in terrorism analysis and deputies in the documental, it is for your safety, in great institutions of Islamophobia. Of course, because in all Muslims there is a potential threat for security. Well, that criticised the special editor of the United Nations about freedom of religion in 2001, to denounce institutional mechanisms that were the rights of the Muslim people to freedom of religion. In fact, the suspected discrimination and vigilance of the European network against racism also showed that anti-terrorist measures of countries like Spain destroy and reinforce that image. Of course, and that you can accuse terrorism in reality at any time. Yes, as it happened to Norton Liemlaj, Norton Workout in Youtube, where he has more than half a million followers as expert in Kalistenia and Street Workout, that is, street training. I started with a movie, making videos for a few, but my group of friends. And now, from this camera, I direct half a million brothers.

27:53I am Norton Workout and welcome one more time to my channel. Spanish, from Padres Marroquís, is considered one of the pioneers in Spain in this discipline, which began to practice in his neighborhood, Leganes, in the south of Madrid. And in fact, it was there, in his house of Leganes, where in January 2025 was held by the group of rapid action of the civil guard accused of terrorism. Norton, I believe in you. I believe in you. Can you describe that moment in which you, which is dedicated to devolving, devolving sports content to win your life? Do you get that group of rapid action of the civil guard at your house? I always describe it as the movies that we see in the United States. It is not that it enters a group, they tie the door and appear with their high-priced buses, high-priced buses. They are jumping in a huge group of 20-30 people. 20-30 people out there. Yes, yes, yes, enormous. We are jumping from the elite, from the civil guard. In this case, to have a person who, at that moment, I thought, until he was well-equipped, or I do not know, imaginary of my head,

28:54I remember that he thought that he was going to fall into the whole building of the golf that was there and that these places at that time are flattered and in shock, in the state of shock, that he is passing here. And why is he entering this people's house? And when they tell me why, I always remember, I tell him, look at my woman and say, they love me. But what did they accuse you of? What did they tell you at that moment? At that moment, I remember that, among a inspector, I took all the entrants, with the face covered, and I told myself, I took all the guards and the doors, I took all the water. And I told myself, you are accused of dealing with indoctrination through social media, of the movement to the party and the journalist. And I said, I will leave the party and I said, I know. The first news, of course. Yes, of course, at that moment, of course. I stayed in white and said, well, it is already. We know that it happened more than three months in prison, but there is not any way, but you were in total isolation. Of course, it was threatened that you represented, as you said. How was this? How was this response? Look, four days ago, I was in prison, in the year before, I was 24 years old, I was 24 years old, and I remember that it was one of the most difficult experiences

29:55that could happen to a human being, because, apart from that, I heard a bit of coming from a journalist who kidnapped him in Syria, and so I told him what he was going to be on the other side. And that's quite similar in the sense that you feel with uncertainty, you feel that you have taken your intimacy, your dignity, you feel questioned, a suspicion, a feeling that is almost betrayed by your own country. And, at the same time, there are also a lot of thoughts in your head that are giving you one and a half years later, when I go out of here, and why is this here? And why are they treating me in this way? And why me? How was that response? Well, it's a response in which, as much as you go out to the patio, four hours a day, yes, in the best of the cases, but that the mom only came out two or three hours a day, I saw the day she was doing it today, because I imagine she would go out to the patio, and go to the free air with just nothing. The rest of the time, you are in jail, and, apart from that, as much, you can go out with five companions, and, normally, the first month comes out only, directly before you go back, you don't have to contact with anyone, you don't talk to anyone,

30:55with many of the calls with your family members, and the employee who gives you food, and, until the rest of the time, you are absolutely alone, eating at the same time. During that other month, what happened to you with the head? Of course, how do you eat the head? Well, at that moment, I thought about how long it will last, if I'm going to be here in the two years that can be in provisional prison, if they are going to try to get another two, so you can reach even four, that they are going to invent more to be able to keep me, because all the applications that we do, none of them, have you ever seen a physical, really, who am I? I have been in tension. The judge knows who I am, or has made a minimum effort, or simply everything he says about the police, you have to go to the police station, it happens, and it happens, and, for no risk, in fact, here we put it to prison. Nordin, you left the freedom in July, and you went to be a dangerous terrorist, to be free without cars. How do you explain that? Well, at that moment, I remember that when I went to Clara, that I couldn't even talk to her, I had already remembered, but obviously I was going to, because I didn't have anything, I didn't have anything for where to go,

31:56I tried thousands of things, I didn't have anything, and then they released me, and I remember, in fact, just the same, you go out with a feeling, not even dangerous, you go out with a feeling of, this had to be, I remember saying the job that I said, hey, you're going today, I said it's not dangerous, and I said, no, no, I don't think I can do it, because I don't know where you're going to come from, and apart from that, you have to fight to rectify your name. In my case, it was a privileged person, I am aware of it, in fact, having a chance, etc. other thousands of people, they don't have it, and apart you have to fight to save your police officers. Well, it seems like you have to have a medium, don't you think? Of course. Well, the thing that is funny here is that I pass all the views, because with my hand that is lawyer, that is, my hand is sitting back, we have another lawyer, and my hand is sitting, and a judge is looking at a person who is playing the tournament, and his hand that is lawyer. So, well, you were at ease, but you have to be pushing, but following, now, for example, the fronters, I have to have my student because they stop me, the fronters, they catch me more, they look at me more to the bottom, and that's what I have to do with my own mediums. I mean, no one has indicated me,

32:58no one has said to me, we are going to give you a pardon. No, no, no, no. We usually get a little arrogant in the sense that we don't want to say that we are not mistaken, because we are not going to say it, but we are going to let you go, but hey, that you are not going to bother a lot. They have not thought about it in any way. Absolutely nothing, I hope, I hope nothing. Well, I hope that we are going to continue talking to you because the man in Musulman is the shadow of the suspect, but on the other hand, they are the love of the others. They are represented as perfect victims of a patriarchal system, dominated by their men, eyes, not others, and on the other hand, built as a woman without a voice, infantilized, and without agency, who need to be saved by the white feminists or by any of them. And I think I have a constancy of that we have someone who is going to take a good look at that image. And so much. Well, there is a mistake from stereotypes and from many references, they are Hazard Barawi, known as Hazard Brown, and it is an aesthetic actress who marked a whole generation for her interpretation of Amira Naibete,

33:58in the series of Escam Espanyán, Movistárpolis. Why don't you go to your friend's party? I know what's going to happen. A man is known, and he was asking me about what happened on the street. It's a person who is very well known in the activist areas and also a very well-known person, with this one. Yes, I think it's Jallar day, how are you? I think it's very good to have some others. Well, very good. I would like to ask you what has happened to you with a little more than 20 years, to become, well, the first man to have a role, a protagonist in the Spanish television, using hair. I never had it. Because I never had it. I didn't put it on you. Of course. I mean, if I was able to say, I would love to be an actress, because I knew it was impossible. So it was like an idea, a flag, that I had in my head. So it's the day that I did I did reality. Well, I'm still assimilating because I don't understand how, and why. But it happened. And it's something that it was a lot of fun, because I don't know when it was going to happen again.

34:59Well, what is the world of the attraction of an actress? What barriers? Do you have a woman, a Muslim woman, or any person, I also tell you of your age, being a young woman in the screen, mixing all of that? Well, anyone, from any barrier, from home, the one who has to explain, absolutely, how it works, how it works, how if it was an angelic woman, that I don't respect your beliefs or practice, especially, they have their five minutes to smoke, but I don't want to laugh. That I don't know, they tell me my clothes, for example, that is, something obvious that I wear a hijab on my head, so it's when you try to dress up as a... Ah, but it's true, that's... Like, bring it back to you, then I'm going with my suitcase of 10 kilos with my 80,000 hijabs, and I have to put them on the set without having that time as they have the rest of the wig. It's just like they haven't tried any time with a very human person, I have to do it,

36:00because I know that if I don't do it, nobody will do it. That is, that beyond the demands or, well, petitions, it's more like a disinteresting, a disinformation, right? Yes, disinformation, I would say. And it's not also a take-out or leave it, right? There was some time when I said, look, I'm not here, and it's already... That's what happens to me, I know quite a lot, my character, and you know, you already know that, you know, that I am of the ones, and if you give me a contract and I also have another with my conditions, then I believe, I believe, with me, if you know what there is, but I know that I have, I know, I know from other companies that if they want to dedicate to this world, and they talk to me, because they know that I move a lot around there, and that it's not the same. So it also depends on the name that you have, or the influence that you have. That's why, perhaps, HQT has included, in its generation hype, that new actor and actress that we know for series and pelis in streaming and social networks. And there, this was explained.

37:18The one that I've always desired. How did you see that responsibility? It's not a small thing, eh?

38:18I mean, there is no very much difference. Do you remember any anecdote that was in the past of the films that your name was especially in the attention? After having dropped two years, in the series, an technical I tell myself, I'm getting out, I see a better, we've finished until the day of not filming and we continue and I say, there are many people, but if you're on the streets, you're going to see that the character is finished of working on a plan. After two years, you know that I come every day to the set with this, to something with this, and we talk about it in the series about this. You tell me, I'm already on top of that. You think that everything was a difference, a character, then it's like, wow. I mean, you're also in front of it or not, you see a lot of interest. You decided to leave the side of the interpretation and you have to study it, right? In fact, you're an engineer at C.B. But it also influences fashion, market ambassador. In all these myths, you feel that you have to continue explaining things, clarifying what you've said for yourself. Yes, because when you see it either, that is, two stories, I know that my

39:25main goal is to figure out any, any department that can play in the plan. I need to be present because it's already with being present. It is said a lot, it's not wrong that I fill the mouth of talking super well, not to say this here, to be honest, being exceptional, just to be honest, I think it's already enough. So, until you don't, until you don't have a lot of joy, I don't think, I mean, the monopoly of the moment I'm going to play all the possible myths to at least continue being there. Making or not the name of the program an effect called, if you didn't know it, is called to make a person more to make a tattoo of love and love in all its dimensions. What is the table full? Come on. I've already seen myself and you're all you. We've already done it well, you're just a ghost. She is Maria Bennuna, she is a Marroquian of the light known for her feminist and anti-racist activism, and she is a work that mainly develops as a president of that racism. And that we had a lot of desire to be at the end here, Maria, I think two days.

40:26I think two days. How is our thermometer of racism at that time and where is that scale of anti-racism between all the racism that there is? I think today's day of course that anti-racism is quite high inside. Is it good? Is it good or not? No, no. The tenement of racism is that it is hot, I think it is a obvious thing that in the last years we have a tendency to make a very large polarization and this takes the day, normally we are the racialized and immigrant people, it seems that we have understood that patriarchy is a structured pressure, but we continue to understand that racism is also the colonialism. Of course, it is true, but it feels that in some way something has improved, apart from that we have on the other hand, that ultra, that I'm going to take a day, but I do not know if it feels that in some areas, in some cities, people start to understand that it is not the other.

41:26I do not know, I think it is that it is very very central to the size of the type of Barcelona, where this could be applied a little more, but I come back, the reality I think is totally different, I think if we go out of the great cities and the metropolitan, I think it changes things and I do not think it has changed a lot, what I do not think has changed is the same way that the racialized people do not self-procise and we occupy the spaces. A greater empowerment in that sense and a greater reclamation of space. I think that if we started to understand that or we did not fight it, we did not bring anyone to the space. Now that has been said to me again and there is that sentiment in human conditions, where they continue to live thousands and thousands of people who work in the fields and generate food that we eat, which you can tell us a little what is the last thing you have seen, how is that situation there? Well, I have a lot of thanks to the companions of Dar Nuzi, for example, the companions of Dar Nuzi who work in the field in the different regions of the world, the reality is that they follow the

42:28chabolistic feelings, we follow the hyper-generationalization of the people who work in the field in that area and in general, they continue to see cases of abuse to the companions of Jornalera, that is, this does not change, what happens here is much better to say that it is not happening and not looking at it. This does not change, but speaking of racism in general, how do you think it will impact the regularization? Well, I hope that it really works, I think that yesterday we were all very happy, it has not been many years of the anti-racist movement of fighting the day to get this regularization that the last and a half years, especially from a lot of work for this subject, and I think that it will have a positive part, and with what we think we are not all in these days, well, there will be 700,000 people who are going to be regularized, I am worried about a year when that first permission is finished, what will happen? I go with the question of the day to the three, what do you think when you call

43:32love or what do you think about the use of the word love or love? It depends on how it is used in and who I am telling you, but I remember that I was not listening to the word until suddenly a day in the school told me a kid like Moro, but in a respective way, and that's when the chip changed and I thought it was like the other children, but suddenly I am a different category, and then there it was like an interior that changed me forever, but normally I am usually used in a respective way, other things that I, with friends, maybe we are talking about having us of Moro, but the use of the respective is evident, and they are not using it as time does a lot with the Arabs today, this is the love, the beautiful love, no, no, I am telling you something from a second year and something that you have to expel, right? And if you want to be exotimistic or orientalism, it is also improbable, but it does not stay, and you go there as you see it, more than the same, I think that we all agree, I am super well, that is, to me it is called love when I fall

44:33evil, then there you understand that it is respective, there you understand that they do not tell you until something does not matter, and there is already Moro, or Mierda's Moro, some level of how it comes out evil, they are the only ones that I like, that I remember, apart from me, I myself, here even, and that leaves me, because now, as everyone is not so much more, I do not know if it happens, but consciousness, sometimes I remember how Moro tells me, no, but he tells me that because we have already said that Moro is a respective term that you tell him, well, it is like, I can say it because I do not say it in a respective way, it is from where I say it, and because I am it, that is, I do not want you to say it to you because you deserve it in a respective way, the only thing I like about me is that I die, they are vegetarians, because yes, for them to be a love, a love that I fall in love, I do not know what it is, it is like there is worth, here it is filled with good content, that is, a visit to the vegetarians, I do not know, we first press, Maria, well, I think we are all in the same line, the Moro is very good if I use it or not, if I have said that value is evidently

45:39being in this country, it is quite complicated, then I think I lie that we do not repurpose the love and love all in order, as love, I ask you, you are others that you love, you love, because constantly, as you are people, I am very known to everyone, it is said that you represent, it is a little what you comment on, how you see that, that is, representing that you say that you represent and how we impact that, I think I don't represent anyone, I think it is to represent myself, as to think that I represent to the love, to all the more, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I also like a lot in just to play what we are in that place again, I have a I'm a bit afraid of that. I'm a bit afraid of that. I'm also a Muslim. I practice Islam. I love Islam. I'm a very fan of Islam. So, within our doctrine, I don't want to be an example.

46:42To do things right. To try to make things right. To try to make things right. To try to make things right. I'm already a Muslim. I'm already a Muslim. I practice Islam. I'm also a bit afraid of that. I'm a bit afraid of that. We have to get close and take care of ourselves. We have to be professional-minded. and that is the engineer who makes everything, the one who sends everything to everyone. Well, and feminists, if we have to be everything, as everything is explained, and I repeat, doing things like the rest, to be able to load it sometimes. Did you also have to do something again, Nordin? I just want the truth that I was thinking about the question and I say, how many girls have been loaded with this kind of feeling? In the sense of saying, not only the girls from today, my parents have made a very big sacrifice, I have to show here at home, a level high, not only of studies, not only of not reading, like, it never comes to the police,

47:45at home of the Jamas, because that could be ... No, you could not ... There you are, fine? No, I was not there, it was already independent, but later on, in the day-to-day, it is true that without wanting it and this is something that the people do not realize, your face is a pressure of, do things very well because, like you, I was wrong, it's going to be a question that will affect all the tables and directly all of these are saying other things is that it is such a big pressure that I go out to the street and I have to put a track of a perfect person good days what's up with this help I do not know what and and in my opinion it comes out natural because there is already Porpe and Islam as I said the human being of the jar of impulse to be a this but true that when you are wrong in that aspect you can benefit a lot less than other people and in that because they are going to make you a clip above all if you are a person who has a certain feeling they are going to make you a clip and they are going to say look at this is what they think all the marquis of the marquis origin of this and then it is not fair in that aspect but

48:50and what do you think there is a concept like the integration? I already told you that integrating me is not enough to do here it is not enough to contain this accent I think that language that one has is talking about the origin of one bro my accent super madriulinho what else do you think I have to integrate me simply because I do not use it exactly like you this is more integrated there is that word and the integration of losing what they are, that is, or your other side, your trunk or where they are coming, of course, today what the cis were not talking about is Spanish, the age or not, no, it is not good, so I think that is because they are going to integrate a word that I am totally eliminated, we are going to use it here no more, we are going to remove it, no, I think it is very integral, no, I am not a little bit, in fact it is a question I don't know how it is, it's not about the typical type of integrals, whatever you say, it's about the integrals.

49:52What is it? It's about the Jamons, people who send it. It's not about integrals. It's about Christian. People who don't have any idea that they are not Spanish either. And then, in the end, the conversation ends up being white and from some specific forms of thinking, that only is a specific collective. That's a lot of time that question. If you start making it, it's not about any sense because to integrate, to integrate, to pay taxes, is part of society, to bring culture, to bring. Well, here I think there are many examples that not only have integrals, that are an example in society, and that maybe the other person is not part of society, but if you don't like it, it's hard to tell. To cry your country, as you say, it's to cry your country. If you're going to leave your own decision, of an intersectional feminism that I don't know if it's too much to explain, continue to integrate musulman and feminist. Yes, because of the imaginary, that in Islam, they're all super machistas, and the only thing they do is people in Barbuda, and when there are women who have their own environment,

50:54mothers, daughters, cousins, siblings, and so on. So, first of all, I have to, of course, I have to cross several prejudices that go between the teeth, so it's very complicated. This topic is very complicated, which is to explain, first. Since the racism, the homophobia, the feminism, I'll say, exists, hello, right? So, and even so, it's not enough. Very quickly, last question, should we have an opinion as a society in this revision in the matter of racism, anti-morrow, concretely, Maria. You're welcome. You should have a great deal. I always think that the first time that we have to review how we study history, how we talk about the reconquests of Alanda, the use of this history, I don't know, I think, we understand that the history in Dimora in Spain begins in 1492, we understand everything that you have. Nordi? Well, look, I think one of the things that bothers me most, and I was thinking about it

51:55the other day, and I say, we're in a middle of a progressive government, but there are certain political, institutional, super racist and super Islamophobos that are not bored and that affect us to all indigestion and that it's the same that we are Muslim, because, as you know, more or less, they're going to give you a job. And it seems incredible to me that they maintain certain types of narratives, that they maintain certain types, including the parameters that we were talking about to determine who is radical and who is not radical. And how is it telling that history from the past institution, when we are in a progressive government that is advancing, etc. And that's a total abandonment. So, my friend, it seems that it's a very big problem because when you continue, it's a nightmare. So, your way of acting on the day of the change and that affects you on your day-to-day and that's not only affected to me, which has happened. It affects us all, because that's the message and directs to all of us. Take care of it. If you have a minimum or if you have something like that, or you don't have a minimum, we're going to look for the boxes and you're going to be able to do it. I understand that you're referring to both the police, the police,

52:55the police, the police, and all the security. Security. Security. That's what starts there and ends for the big one, which is terrorism, etc. Hayar. On my part, I'm going to take more what I'm talking about, and especially, in the media, it's a communication that I feel makes a lot of effort in society. And the issue of when people live if they live a well-racialized human in general, that has always been under, from an exceptional perspective, or it's been a millionaire from 19 years or from the victimism. That's the only narrative for those who can talk about us. So, especially the victimism, and that's how the pain has taken a lot of attention and I think the start of the story with a constant discourse of the victimist also feels that it discriminates.

53:56It makes the same effect that racism makes it a stereotype, right? I can add one thing because I also with my wife also take the veil and that I also suffer a lot of certain things. The action of a job is something that I don't know because apart from that the men are human beings, they directly do it with our women, they try to be a machist, they do it to your woman, to the other, but when a woman tries to act in a way, they act to work, put aside how many women you've already seen, you've known, working in any world, with a career, with incredible preparations, because women have a lot of preparation on preparation in many cases and that they can't do their job, and that seems to me because you go to the United Kingdom, all the places and things like that. What's the change? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing.

54:56Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Thank you. Thank you. We have a little time, but we want to make a conclusion of where this is not going to take us all this at the moment, where we have this wonderful news of our ordinary regularization but not a little bit, which we assist in the criminalization and persecution of the different, especially, well, we're moving it with the box mounted by the ice, but also here in Spain. Yes, well, I think what the ice does in the United States, what the ice does in the United States, what the ice does in the United States, what the European Union does in the Mediterranean, appears like in one thing. Which has, as victims of resistance groups that have been historically dishumanized. And this dishumanization is not repeated but institutionalized and socialized in politics. And since we have seen the words like Mauro, they are the ones that make this process possible from humanization. The different policies of the Spanish State that para la diaria personas that led to like Mauro's entering the borders of foreigners that are full of

55:57Mauros and since we already told the French political smarter users that have such an objective moros no lleven vivos lo que quiero decir es que no se llega al hice de la noche a la mañana sino gracias a años de políticas de normalización de situaciones que luego la ultraderecha lleva al extremo cuando llega al poder y tenemos que desnormalizar esto me levanto ya plauda del blanco también se sale yo creo que no va a ser mucho más fácil desnormalizar todo esto sino recomiendas cosas que ver hacer y leer cosas moras queréis caldo y os voy a dar dos taz cosas moras y hablando de teatro si estáis en las palmas os recomiendo mucho la adaptación musical de supersaurio el éxito literario de marie melmedeti una canaria de nacimiento y de raíces marroquís en el que narra la tensión constante entre la identidad y la pertenencia cuyas funciones eran el seis y siete de marzo pero las entradas vuelan la verdad que tiene una pintaza increíble si las palmas os pilla lejos os podéis ir al otro extremo abilbado donde yunes chay vestará el doce de abril con sus monólogos

56:57mordaces donde habla precisamente también de la tensión entre raza e identidad alguien a quien esperamos tener muy pronto por aquí hombre ya que se ha mudado madrid y dice que no le gusta por lo menos que aproveché y venga la República totalmente en forma de audiovisual es verdad que ya he comentado el documental de es por tu seguridad en granajes de la institucional de la islamofobia pero hay otros como arjas a rr h a s h y los soldados de franco la historia secreta de los marroquís en la guerra civil española que ambos hablan de la historia de España y su relación con el moro no y que estos tres documentales están todos gratuito en la red lo voy a repetir es por tu seguridad en granaje de institucional de la islamofobia arras que se traduce como veneno en amacig o el documental los soldados de franco historia secreta de los marroquí en la guerra civil española muy bien y todo esto lo podéis complementar con lecturas los he os he nombrado ya dos autoras al mamzian pero también los quiero recomendar a mi tokayo yusef el maimuni quien acaba de publicar su primera novela en catalán que indire del día de avuí que pronto saldrá al español lo que sí que está en español son sus dos maravillosas novelas

58:01anteriores cuando los montes caminen y nadie salva a las rosas dos libros que debes de tener en tu biblioteca si así muy bien y una última recomendación en realidad es todo el trabajo de ella no pero especialmente es un novela gráfica mal olor estoy hablando de nadie hafead en la que desde un pensamiento nada autocomplaciente aborda el racismo y la hipocresía de la sociedad actual tenemos de ver es como veis recomendaciones todas para mororizaros a cuetas maximas porque el moro postureo como hemos dicho no se hace hay que hacerlo pues amororizarnos todo con estas recomendaciones y con este programa que ospedimos que escucháis y recomendéis por ahí yusef uled muchísima gracia a mío me lo he pasado genial y tú yo también muchísimo no vemos en la próxima no vamos con algo herba de racit b músico y artista marroquí originario de asila que combina sonido de su tierra con el pop y el blus

59:41algo orba significa algo parecido a moriña echar de menos extrañar tu casa no la melancolía la nostalgia de tu tierra así pues dejamos con este precioso tema y lo que nosotros echábamos de menos es salir por las carreteras y que tengo que anunciar y recordaros que mañana viajamos a la barra estaremos en un programa especial de de lo dosa a la siete en la casa de la cultura la entrada gratuita así que os esperamos allí hasta mañana salud y república y que la radio os acompañe